[RBW] Re: Another S3X hub

[IanA]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=s3x



On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 5:54:42 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I complained about the lash when installed on my Riv fixie gofast, but 
> after all, for the price I paid, it's a very easy way to get climbing gears 
> without having to modify the stripped down gofast by adding, say, 
> derailleur, rear brake/cabling. Perhaps one day when I am old and decrepit, 
> I *will *add a rear brake and use the wonderful AM hub I picked up cheap, 
> but which has a 5 3/4" axle and so can't be used on the 130 mm OL '03 Riv 
> errand bike. (It will work on the 126 OL gofast.)
>
> Anyway, I just found and ordered another S3X, this one set up for 130 mm 
> spacing, which I hope to have built into a wheel for the '03 and to use 
> with either a 17 t freewheel, or perhaps a 16/18 t DOS.
>
> The weather has cooled down greatly, and I'd like to do some "longer" 
> rides -- long for me is 30 miles.* 
>
> I'd love to get a TF for the gofast -- 100% and 25% reduction, and -- so 
> it is said -- very little lash, but the one I saw on eBay built into an old 
> British 27" club wheel has a $650 buy it now price.
>
> Finally, glad I sold all of that stuff -- it allowed me to buy this hub 
> and set aside cash for a wheel build.
>
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[RBW] How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[Surlyprof]

I've encountered almost all positive comments here in the bay area.  After a 
broken chain took out my rear derailleur, I took it to a lbs to have the hanger 
readjusted.  The kid who got to work on it was just beaming when I entrusted 
"such a cool bike" to him to work on.  He took extra care in getting it just 
right. 

My only negative experience was that my friend and previous riding partner quit 
calling me to ride after I sold the Bianchi and got that "touring bike" as he 
referred to it.  I honestly think he feared that he'd feel the need to scrap 
his $9000 BMC carbon if I ever beat him up a hill on my Hillborne.

John

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[RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Don Compton]

Fortunately or unfortunately, I have another new Grand Bois 28 Cerf,so it 
will be awhile until I need to purchase new tires. When I finally wear them 
out I am going to buy some Compass 700x32 extra lights. Some complain about 
the price of Grand Bois and Compass tires, but I get my money's worth 
because of their long wear compared to typical expensive race tires.

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 9:16:21 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I have been riding 700x28 Grand Bois Cerfs for years. Yesterday, I finally 
> lowered my pressures down to 60f and 70r. Why did I wait so long?
> My Roadeo feels like a German car with great shocks.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Joe Bernard]

Also, handlebars are one handlebar, and a pair of pants is one pant. So there. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[Kai Vierstra]

718 is great! I took a wheel building class there. They'll teach you how for 
free, give you a discount on the parts needed, and let you use their shop to 
build. It's crrrazy! Best shop ever? Probably. 
-Kai Vierstra 
Brooklyn NY 

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Re: [RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Warning: Pedantic, rather meaningless content ahead. Not suitable for those 
easily miffed (as opposed to chuffed) or with better things to do. Like hop 
in (on?) your cockpit and go for a ride!

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 4:57:49 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> The term 'handlebars' also refers to a specific component of the cockpit. 
>

Only if you decide your bicycle has a cockpit!
 

> Some bars as you referred to them may include other components in the 
> area, but not all bikes have that setup.
>

?? That was an imaginary example of one. There are multitudes.
 

> Shifters may or may not be on the bars.  Down tube shifters?  
>

That's why I wrote "the controls being mentioned, with the sometime 
exception of shifters, are found on the handlebars."

As my bell is on the stem and not actually on the bar, would that still be 
> part of your bar setup definition? 
>

You might say "I have a bell on my 12cm Nitto Pearl." You would need to say 
that even if you added the term cockpit to the mix.
 

> It makes me wonder where the term boundary might be, whether it is only 
> those items mounted on the bar itself or also to other items in the general 
> area.
>

Exactly. Racing cars and airplanes include the seat in the cockpit. So you 
would also include the saddle and the top tube when referencing a bicycle's 
cockpit. A handlebar bag and its rack, and the light attached? Could be; 
certainly they are in closer proximity than the seat and also right in 
front of the pilot's--I mean to say rider's--nose. I don't see any benefit 
into basically lumping everything but some parts of the frame and the 
wheels into one term. No need to fret over what to include when you stick 
to handlebars!

>
> I agree, different strokes.  Then again, it does take a while for new 
> applications of words to become common place.  Some disagreement with the 
> usage should not be unexpected even after it becomes common.
>

I realize the term is in general use here on RBW. Despite returning over 
half a million google results, I don't  think the term is all that common 
in the regular, non-internet world. None of the cyclists, none of the 
mechanics I know or have ever known have ever uttered the word cockpit when 
talking about a bicycle. It may be that I just don't get around as much any 
more, and I'm way behind on this, but I stand by my assertion that it is an 
unnecessary and somewhat ill-fitting term when applied to a bicycle, a 
simple, unenclosed machine. All of the other uses refer to spaces that are 
pit-like, and partially or completely enclosed. If I ever get a recumbent 
with a big fairing bubble I might say it has a cockpit.

One thing I am absolutely certain of: My Clementine does not have a cockpit.

I guess I'm a retro word grouch. As Garth almost said, a handlebar is a 
handlebar is a handlebar. I rest my case. 

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[RBW] Re: How to sell a Rivendell Bike

[blakcloud]

Cecily, I have a friend in Vancouver ask to buy my wife's Betty Foy but 
it's not for sale. By chance what is the size of your frame?


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[RBW] FS: Big Guy Stuff: Wool Cardigan, Windbreaker Jacket, Wool Sweatshirt, LS Tee,and 1/4 Zip

[Zack]

Screwed up the last FS thread pretty good, haha. Starting anew.

Ibex Scout Jura Hoodie size XXL, worn a handful of times, black, this one 
http://shop.ibex.com/merino-wool-clothing/mens-long-sleeve-shirts/m-scout-jura-hoody
 *$95*
Ibex 4th Street Boucle Cardigan, XL, worn a handful of times, greenish 
bluish, this 
one: http://image.rakuten.co.jp/rococostore/cabinet/outer3/9476_fz.jpg* $85*
Patagonia 1/4 zip black merino long sleeve, size XL, worn a handful of 
times,* $40*
Ibex Orange Long Sleeve Merino XL, worn a bit, *$40*
Nau Lightbeam jacket, XL, orange, worn a bit. *$50*

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[RBW] Another S3X hub

[Patrick Moore]

I complained about the lash when installed on my Riv fixie gofast, but
after all, for the price I paid, it's a very easy way to get climbing gears
without having to modify the stripped down gofast by adding, say,
derailleur, rear brake/cabling. Perhaps one day when I am old and decrepit,
I *will *add a rear brake and use the wonderful AM hub I picked up cheap,
but which has a 5 3/4" axle and so can't be used on the 130 mm OL '03 Riv
errand bike. (It will work on the 126 OL gofast.)

Anyway, I just found and ordered another S3X, this one set up for 130 mm
spacing, which I hope to have built into a wheel for the '03 and to use
with either a 17 t freewheel, or perhaps a 16/18 t DOS.

The weather has cooled down greatly, and I'd like to do some "longer" rides
-- long for me is 30 miles.*

I'd love to get a TF for the gofast -- 100% and 25% reduction, and -- so it
is said -- very little lash, but the one I saw on eBay built into an old
British 27" club wheel has a $650 buy it now price.

Finally, glad I sold all of that stuff -- it allowed me to buy this hub and
set aside cash for a wheel build.

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Re: [RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, John. I read Berto's article -- was it published in Bicycling? --
years ago, but I've never bothered to be as exact as the method entails. My
thumbs and forefingers are pretty well educated by now, and I am thinking
that even 65/70 for the Elk Passes is a wee bit high for my taste, unless I
carry a heavy rear load. I think 60/65 or what my fingers feel when the
pump reads those numbers might be smoother.

Segue: Nodding to Eric's mental Citroen, I briefly owned a 2 CV-derived
Acadian van, which has such supple suspension that I could drive at 15-20
mph over the sharp bumps installed in parking lots without undue jarring.
More gradual bumps, as on 25 mph-limit roads, could be taken at 35-40 with
no undue jounce or bounce. And, the van would carry 4 58 c-c bikes with
front wheels installed and saddles and bars in proper places.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 3:47 PM, John Hawrylak 
wrote:

> Opps , hit something & it got sent unfinished
>
> Patrick
>
> Here are the tire pressures for the 15% tire drop method for the weights
> and widths you specified:
>
> 175 Lb  + 20 lb  =  195 lb total weight  45%/55% distribution
>23  27  29
> F 89 69   61
> R 112  86   75
>
> 175 Lb  + 25 lb  =  200 lb total weight  45%/55% distribution
>23  27  29
> F 92 71   62
> R11488  77
>
> Can't do 51mm widths
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> 175 rider + bike at sub 20 and another sub 25. Elk Pass tires, measuring
>> ~27 and ~29 respectively; run at ~65-70. I don't sweat digits f/r, but I do
>> use the pinch test to get front a wee bit softer. In fact, were it not for
>> the gauge on the pump, which for all I know may be defective, I'd just go
>> by feel -- indeed, I do, since the reported pressures are chosen because
>> they feel right to my fingers.
>>
>> When I used 23 mm tires on these bikes, I'd pump those to~80/85 or 80/90.
>>
>> 51 mm Furious Freds with at least half miles on sandy dirt: ~18/22 or
>> 20/25. I'm pretty sure that the pump gauge reads too high, and I
>> occasionally check with my low pressure gauge.
>>
>> I remember long ago, circa 1972, learning to pump my Raleigh Sprite's
>> cheap 27 X 1 1/4 tires to the 70 psi marked on the sidewall. What a
>> difference! Higher pressures *certainly do* improve rolling, at least
>> the feel (and no, not any goddam buzz; they were easier to pedal and went
>> faster) compared to too soft -- I've verified this any number of times with
>> cheap tires with heavy sidewalls. The roads in question ranged from super
>> smooth to normally worn, nothing terrible or chipseal.
>>
>> Question: just went out to check tires with gauges and found that the
>> high pressure one -- to 160 psi; steel and brass -- doesn't register
>> anything despite an open valve core and road pressures as above. Does
>> anyone have any idea about what might be wrong with it, and how to fix it?
>>
>> Does anyone have a road presta gauge, reasonably accurate, to trade for
>> something or sell for a few bucks?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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[RBW] FS: SaddleSack Large Olive

[WETH]

SOLD.
Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: tire pressures

[John Hawrylak]

Opps , hit something & it got sent unfinished

Patrick 

Here are the tire pressures for the 15% tire drop method for the weights 
and widths you specified:

175 Lb  + 20 lb  =  195 lb total weight  45%/55% distribution
   23  27  29
F 89 69   61   
R 112  86   75

175 Lb  + 25 lb  =  200 lb total weight  45%/55% distribution
   23  27  29
F 92 71   62  
R11488  77

Can't do 51mm widths

John Hawrylak
Woodstown

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

> 175 rider + bike at sub 20 and another sub 25. Elk Pass tires, measuring 
> ~27 and ~29 respectively; run at ~65-70. I don't sweat digits f/r, but I do 
> use the pinch test to get front a wee bit softer. In fact, were it not for 
> the gauge on the pump, which for all I know may be defective, I'd just go 
> by feel -- indeed, I do, since the reported pressures are chosen because 
> they feel right to my fingers.
>
> When I used 23 mm tires on these bikes, I'd pump those to~80/85 or 80/90.
>
> 51 mm Furious Freds with at least half miles on sandy dirt: ~18/22 or 
> 20/25. I'm pretty sure that the pump gauge reads too high, and I 
> occasionally check with my low pressure gauge.
>
> I remember long ago, circa 1972, learning to pump my Raleigh Sprite's 
> cheap 27 X 1 1/4 tires to the 70 psi marked on the sidewall. What a 
> difference! Higher pressures *certainly do* improve rolling, at least the 
> feel (and no, not any goddam buzz; they were easier to pedal and went 
> faster) compared to too soft -- I've verified this any number of times with 
> cheap tires with heavy sidewalls. The roads in question ranged from super 
> smooth to normally worn, nothing terrible or chipseal. 
>
> Question: just went out to check tires with gauges and found that the high 
> pressure one -- to 160 psi; steel and brass -- doesn't register anything 
> despite an open valve core and road pressures as above. Does anyone have 
> any idea about what might be wrong with it, and how to fix it?
>
> Does anyone have a road presta gauge, reasonably accurate, to trade for 
> something or sell for a few bucks?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: tire pressures

[John Hawrylak]

Patrick

Here are the tire pressures for the 15% tire drop method for the weights 
and widths you specified:

175 Lb  + 25 lb  =  195 lb total weight
   23  27
F
R

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

> 175 rider + bike at sub 20 and another sub 25. Elk Pass tires, measuring 
> ~27 and ~29 respectively; run at ~65-70. I don't sweat digits f/r, but I do 
> use the pinch test to get front a wee bit softer. In fact, were it not for 
> the gauge on the pump, which for all I know may be defective, I'd just go 
> by feel -- indeed, I do, since the reported pressures are chosen because 
> they feel right to my fingers.
>
> When I used 23 mm tires on these bikes, I'd pump those to~80/85 or 80/90.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Patrick Moore]

I find that even good bike shops pump tires much too hard; there is a "too
hard" even for cheap Kendas. When I pump tires for customers or friends, I
try to leave a wee bit of cush -- the sweet spot is vanishingly small with
cheap, thick-sidewalled tires.

Odd: I used otherwise very decent 559 X 32 Paselas for many years and
miles, and found that they too had a small sweet spot between harsh and
spongy. Kojaks are far better in this regard, and the Elk Passes better
yet. Paselas rolled well if you hit the spot, though. (Paselas also flat
much more easily, their sidewalls tear and wear and degradef easily, and
skidding will peal off chunks of tread. My experience.)

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Edwin W  wrote:

> On a side note, I took my sister in law to a few shops to test ride a
> bunch of bikes and found that a common complaint she had was they were too
> harsh. Well, the tires were all pumped up to rock hard!! Not to mention
> most stock tires on the hybrids we were looking at are not the supple ones
> we've been appreciating!
>
> Supple and soft,
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Re: tire pressures

[john . hawrylak]

Ok, what is the actual width.  I interpolate on the slope and intercept of the published curves to get the curve for say a 29.5mm width.  tell me the actual width and I can get the 15% TDC pressure.John HawrylakWoodstown NJ   On 09/11/16, Don Compton wrote: Berto's old method does not take into consideration the benefits of wider rims.On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 9:06:17 AM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:Don28mm tires at 60psig F & 70psig R supports a TOTAL Weight (rider & bike) of 175 to 180 lb for a 15% Tire Drop (Berto's method) assuming a 45%F and 55%R weight distribution (typical Rando)..John HawrylakWoodstown NJOn Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:16:21 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:I have been riding 700x28 Grand Bois Cerfs for years. Yesterday, I finally lowered my pressures down to 60f and 70r. Why did I wait so long?My Roadeo feels like a German car with great shocks.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/tzq57fP7SZA/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.



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[RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Edwin W]

On a side note, I took my sister in law to a few shops to test ride a bunch of 
bikes and found that a common complaint she had was they were too harsh. Well, 
the tires were all pumped up to rock hard!! Not to mention most stock tires on 
the hybrids we were looking at are not the supple ones we've been appreciating!

Supple and soft,

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Patrick Moore]

175 rider + bike at sub 20 and another sub 25. Elk Pass tires, measuring
~27 and ~29 respectively; run at ~65-70. I don't sweat digits f/r, but I do
use the pinch test to get front a wee bit softer. In fact, were it not for
the gauge on the pump, which for all I know may be defective, I'd just go
by feel -- indeed, I do, since the reported pressures are chosen because
they feel right to my fingers.

When I used 23 mm tires on these bikes, I'd pump those to~80/85 or 80/90.

51 mm Furious Freds with at least half miles on sandy dirt: ~18/22 or
20/25. I'm pretty sure that the pump gauge reads too high, and I
occasionally check with my low pressure gauge.

I remember long ago, circa 1972, learning to pump my Raleigh Sprite's cheap
27 X 1 1/4 tires to the 70 psi marked on the sidewall. What a difference!
Higher pressures *certainly do* improve rolling, at least the feel (and no,
not any goddam buzz; they were easier to pedal and went faster) compared to
too soft -- I've verified this any number of times with cheap tires with
heavy sidewalls. The roads in question ranged from super smooth to normally
worn, nothing terrible or chipseal.

Question: just went out to check tires with gauges and found that the high
pressure one -- to 160 psi; steel and brass -- doesn't register anything
despite an open valve core and road pressures as above. Does anyone have
any idea about what might be wrong with it, and how to fix it?

Does anyone have a road presta gauge, reasonably accurate, to trade for
something or sell for a few bucks?

Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

[Edwin W]

Will,

I like that Ovation! I never thought of the equestrian ones, but it is classy. 
I feel like with the bike helmets they are usually either too racy or too 
street punky. 
Not fast enough or young enough for most,

Edwin 

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[RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Don Compton]

Berto's old method does not take into consideration the benefits of wider 
rims.

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 9:06:17 AM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Don
>
> 28mm tires at 60psig F & 70psig R supports a TOTAL Weight (rider & bike) 
> of 175 to 180 lb for a 15% Tire Drop (Berto's method) assuming a 45%F and 
> 55%R weight distribution (typical Rando)..
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:16:21 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>
>> I have been riding 700x28 Grand Bois Cerfs for years. Yesterday, I 
>> finally lowered my pressures down to 60f and 70r. Why did I wait so long?
>> My Roadeo feels like a German car with great shocks.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Garth]

  Ahahahaha .. a handlebar is still just a handlebar no matter what you 
add to it !  But but but ... but so what !  



On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 7:02:09 PM UTC-4, James Valiensi wrote:
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> GAWD This aggravates me to no end - referring to a bicycle handle bar as a 
> "cockpit". Airplanes have cockpits, bicycles have handlebars for crap's 
> sake!!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Tim Butterfield]

Mark,

The term 'handlebars' also refers to a specific component of the cockpit.
Some bars as you referred to them may include other components in the area,
but not all bikes have that setup.  Shifters may or may not be on the
bars.  Down tube shifters?  As my bell is on the stem and not actually on
the bar, would that still be part of your bar setup definition?  It makes
me wonder where the term boundary might be, whether it is only those items
mounted on the bar itself or also to other items in the general area.

I agree, different strokes.  Then again, it does take a while for new
applications of words to become common place.  Some disagreement with the
usage should not be unexpected even after it becomes common.

Tim

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 12:36 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Tim Butterfield wrote: As mentioned, a bicycle cockpit may have multiple
> levers (bars, brakes, shifters, etc.) with or without any instruments.  I
> cannot think of a single other word either that better encompasses the
> entire area around the handlebars.  If there is a better word for a
> "relatively small area containing mostly mechanical controls with optional
> instruments," what might it be?
>
> How about "handlebars?" All the controls being mentioned, with the
> sometime exception of shifters, are found on the handlebars. Imaginary
> exchange using this nomenclature:
>  "What's your handlebar setup?"
> "I have Noodles with bar-ends, a bell, and non-aero levers. And you?"
> "I have porteur bars with DI2 STI and a Garmin. But it's a self-riding
> Google bike, so I just hang on."
>
>  Anywho, different strokes for different folks. I was just confessing
> solidarity with the OP after a chorus of dissenting opinion fell upon him.
> Now please excuse me while I saddle up and take my trusty iron steed to the
> grocery store--she's a fine machine, made for haulin'! (P.S. Do cockpits
> have colorways?;^)
>
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Re: [RBW] Helmets... what do you like?

[Reid]

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 5:05:28 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> On my 4th Bell Metro variant.  I like the venting, I like the bill, I'm 
> naked without the helmet mirror, I like the blinkie mounts.  
> I run separate lights on my bike and turn the helmet blinkies on and off 
> for traffic signals and to get a driver's attention.  
> I still can't believe how many light-less bikes I see on the road, even at 
> dusk and dawn
>

Another vote for the Bell Metro, for all the reasons above. My now old one 
has the added feature of a made to fit, snap on helmet cover. Looking at 
the latest iteration, Bell seems to have dropped that feature. Too bad, as 
it's great for Winter commuting. Progress -- Not!

Reid

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Re: [RBW] tire pressures

[Eric Norris]

I split the difference and run about 65 front and rear in my Cerfs. My Singer 
rides like a Citroen with great shocks.

--Eric Norris
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> On Sep 10, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Don Compton  wrote:
> 
> I have been riding 700x28 Grand Bois Cerfs for years. Yesterday, I finally 
> lowered my pressures down to 60f and 70r. Why did I wait so long?
> My Roadeo feels like a German car with great shocks.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Tim Butterfield wrote: As mentioned, a bicycle cockpit may have multiple 
levers (bars, brakes, shifters, etc.) with or without any instruments.  I 
cannot think of a single other word either that better encompasses the 
entire area around the handlebars.  If there is a better word for a 
"relatively small area containing mostly mechanical controls with optional 
instruments," what might it be?

How about "handlebars?" All the controls being mentioned, with the sometime 
exception of shifters, are found on the handlebars. Imaginary exchange 
using this nomenclature:
 "What's your handlebar setup?"
"I have Noodles with bar-ends, a bell, and non-aero levers. And you?" 
"I have porteur bars with DI2 STI and a Garmin. But it's a self-riding 
Google bike, so I just hang on."

 Anywho, different strokes for different folks. I was just confessing 
solidarity with the OP after a chorus of dissenting opinion fell upon him. 
Now please excuse me while I saddle up and take my trusty iron steed to the 
grocery store--she's a fine machine, made for haulin'! (P.S. Do cockpits 
have colorways?;^)



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[RBW] Re: Just Completed: 68cm Rambouillet 650b Land Yacht

[Lungimsam]

Still riding it 650b?How has it worked out?

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[RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

[Will]

I use an equestrian helmet. They are good looking, have a small visor 
(about an inch) so rain is deflected, and are built to stronger standards 
(horses are higher from the ground and have hooves) than typical bicycle 
stock. The trick is to find one large enough, the horsey set tends to be 
female, and one with good ventilation. My current helmet is a large Troxel 
school model (cost = $35 and built like a tank). My next will be a L/XL 
Ovation Protege (cost = $45). I'll get the Ovation b/c the ventilation is 
better and the interior suspension is more tunable. In either brand, the 
liner removes for washing. Removeable liners are a a nice feature. 

I do not particularly like bicycle helmets (I have a $200 Giro). Too much 
slipstream fru-fru. Reminds me of the lycra folks. 

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 11:06:41 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I've been using a helmet that the designers at Specialized gave me several 
> years ago.  It's a nice helmet but it's getting pretty grungy and probably 
> needs to be replaced.  Having only spent about $50 or $60 on helmets in the 
> past 20 years, I figured it's time to pony up for a new helmet.  As I 
> started to search I was amazed at (1) the range of helmets I'd never seen; 
> (2) some of the new innovations that are coming out and; (3) some of the 
> prices that helmets are hitting these days.  I may just try to ping on 
> friends in the industry for another freebie but I use it so often, I may 
> actually get picky and open the wallet for this one. I'm not looking to 
> start a pro-helmet/anti-helmet debate, just looking for insights from those 
> who use 'em.  What are people liking out there and why?  I'd love to hear 
> everyone's latest thoughts on helmets.
>
>  
>
> BTW... I did go down the "folding helmet rabbit hole" when I was 
> searching.  Some crazy new things coming out.  
>
>
> http://www.treehugger.com/bikes/dash-and-stash-stash-folding-bike-helmet.html
>
> http://www.morpherhelmet.com/
>
>
> https://store.moma.org/museum/moma/ProductDisplay_Fuga-Foldable-Helmet_10451_10001_227971_-1_26715_11506_221954?gclid=CIC3h9Szhs8CFY9bfgodLwoAkg
>
>
> http://www.backcountrygear.com/madillo.html?gclid=CPD56pq0hs8CFQtnfgodRS4JwA
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Overade-Foldable-Folding-Bicycle-Helmet/dp/B00TA4TF4E
>
> http://www.thinkbiologic.com/products/pango-folding-helmet
>
>  
>
> ...and my wife found this one: http://www.ecohelmet.com/
>
>  
>
> John “Not wearing a paper helmet anytime soon”
>

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[RBW] Re: tire pressures

[Lungimsam]

I got ~175lbs rider + ~27.5 lbs bike + ~7 lbs.bag on both my Rivbikes at 
any given time riding on Compass rubber:

Bleriot with 650b x 38 Loup Loup- 45psi front and rear
Rambouillet with 700c x 28 Chinook - 55psi front and rear

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[RBW] Re: Cutting front tab off Nitto Mini Front Rack?

[Brian Campbell]

Sell it and buy the tab-less? One you "modify" it, it will have 
substantially less value. This, coming from a fan of tabs.

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 6:52:23 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> I would be willing to buy it, specifically because it has the tab.  Would 
> you want to sell and buy new??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 6:28:50 PM UTC-4, Bob Cook wrote:
>
>> Have you done it, or had it done? Are there any special considerations 
>> for cutting nickel-plated steel, or for treating the area once the cutting 
>> is done?
>>
>> I know the version now sold by RBW is front-tab-free, but I don't want to 
>> pony up $140 when I have a perfectly good rack. (That I'm planning to make 
>> less perfectly good, but still functional I hope.)
>>
>> Thanks. Have a great weekend.
>>
>> --
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>>
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[RBW] Re: tire pressures

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

With the 700x38 Barlowe Pass on the Hilsen and the 650x42 Babyshoes on the new 
MAP and the lowest pressures I can get away with, I INTENTIONALLY ride on 
rumble strips because even after riding these supple Compass tires for a couple 
of years I still can't get over how damn comfortable they are. 

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[RBW] Re: tire pressures

[John Hawrylak]

Don

28mm tires at 60psig F & 70psig R supports a TOTAL Weight (rider & bike) of 
175 to 180 lb for a 15% Tire Drop (Berto's method) assuming a 45%F and 55%R 
weight distribution (typical Rando)..

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:16:21 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:

> I have been riding 700x28 Grand Bois Cerfs for years. Yesterday, I finally 
> lowered my pressures down to 60f and 70r. Why did I wait so long?
> My Roadeo feels like a German car with great shocks.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Tim Butterfield]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Jeremy Tavan  wrote:
>
>> How about "user interface" - or is that my Silicon Valley talking?
>>
>
> I am in software development and think of 'user interface' as having more
> of a visual priority than tactile/mechanical.
>

Also, I think of 'user interface' as belonging to an object, but not to the
area around that object.  Think of the multiple user interfaces in a
control room.  To build on that thought a bit more, think of the cockpit of
a small sailboat.  The only instrument may be the compass, if that, but
there may be lots of mechanical controls, rudder, lines/sheets, winches,
etc.  As mentioned, a bicycle cockpit may have multiple levers (bars,
brakes, shifters, etc.) with or without any instruments.  I cannot think of
a single other word either that better encompasses the entire area around
the handlebars.  If there is a better word for a "relatively small area
containing mostly mechanical controls with optional instruments," what
might it be?  Especially in aviation parlance, once that area is no longer
considered small, it is often referred to as the flight deck and not just a
cockpit.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Tim Butterfield]

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Jeremy Tavan  wrote:

> How about "user interface" - or is that my Silicon Valley talking?
>

I am in software development and think of 'user interface' as having more
of a visual priority than tactile/mechanical.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[RichS]

Kai, in your neck of the woods 718 Cyclery is a welcoming shop. You probably 
know they are a Riv dealer. Easy to see why. I had the pleasure of visiting 
there two weeks ago. Talked with a nice lady named Lee. Lots of fat tire bikes; 
few if any roadies. Three Rivs on the floor: two Joe Appas and one Clem. Lee 
offered to let me ride one but I didn't want to test out the unfamiliar 
Brooklyn streets.

Regards,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

[Lungimsam]

I don't like riding with a helmet when it is Spring/summer/fall. Too hot.

However, I really like wearing a helmet in the rain, and in the winter to 
keep the wintry blast off my head.

I have a 2009 helmet that I like. But the outer plastic is starting to lift 
away from the Styrofoam body.

But my problem is that most helmets are made with such a high dome they 
make me look funny when I wear them. I have tried others that looked low 
dome, but still look high dome on me.

So I would look for something with a flat, low dome. Anyone know of one 
that doesn't cost over 60$US?

I don't know why no one has developed a more "normal" looking helmet, with 
low dome, meaning something that looks like regular clothes, and not all 
science fiction like most helmets look.

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[RBW] How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[Will Ashe]

I see, I haven't had that issue but I certainly can understand that happening. 

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[RBW] Helmets... what do you like?

[Will Ashe]

I've had a Giro Aspect for the last couple years that I really like. It's very 
light like the racing models but without the fins and bright colors. It is 
rather expensive, but they do go on sale quite often. 

Will Ashe

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[RBW] FS: SaddleSack Large Olive

[WETH]

Selling my SaddleSack Large Olive
Price: $180 shipped conus; PayPal
Pictures here: https://flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157671293232332
More photos by request.
Please note any buttons, flags, carabiner clips attached to bag in photos are 
not included.  Also not included are the two straps that attach the bottom of 
the bag to the rack.
Please contact off list.

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Re: [RBW] Helmets... what do you like?

[Ron Mc]

On my 4th Bell Metro variant.  I like the venting, I like the bill, I'm 
naked without the helmet mirror, I like the blinkie mounts.  
I run separate lights on my bike and turn the helmet blinkies on and off 
for traffic signals and to get a driver's attention.  
I still can't believe how many light-less bikes I see on the road, even at 
dusk and dawn

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[RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

[Clementine59]

Lots of good info here:
http://www.helmets.org/

The MIPS discussion is interesting and worth reading.

On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 12:06:41 AM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I've been using a helmet that the designers at Specialized gave me several 
> years ago.  It's a nice helmet but it's getting pretty grungy and probably 
> needs to be replaced.  Having only spent about $50 or $60 on helmets in the 
> past 20 years, I figured it's time to pony up for a new helmet.  As I 
> started to search I was amazed at (1) the range of helmets I'd never seen; 
> (2) some of the new innovations that are coming out and; (3) some of the 
> prices that helmets are hitting these days.  I may just try to ping on 
> friends in the industry for another freebie but I use it so often, I may 
> actually get picky and open the wallet for this one. I'm not looking to 
> start a pro-helmet/anti-helmet debate, just looking for insights from those 
> who use 'em.  What are people liking out there and why?  I'd love to hear 
> everyone's latest thoughts on helmets.
>
>  
>
> BTW... I did go down the "folding helmet rabbit hole" when I was 
> searching.  Some crazy new things coming out.  
>
>
> http://www.treehugger.com/bikes/dash-and-stash-stash-folding-bike-helmet.html
>
> http://www.morpherhelmet.com/
>
>
> https://store.moma.org/museum/moma/ProductDisplay_Fuga-Foldable-Helmet_10451_10001_227971_-1_26715_11506_221954?gclid=CIC3h9Szhs8CFY9bfgodLwoAkg
>
>
> http://www.backcountrygear.com/madillo.html?gclid=CPD56pq0hs8CFQtnfgodRS4JwA
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Overade-Foldable-Folding-Bicycle-Helmet/dp/B00TA4TF4E
>
> http://www.thinkbiologic.com/products/pango-folding-helmet
>
>  
>
> ...and my wife found this one: http://www.ecohelmet.com/
>
>  
>
> John “Not wearing a paper helmet anytime soon”
>

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[RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Ron Mc]

it sure simplifies the discussion about the difference between a moustache 
bar "setup" and a drop-bar "setup" v. a choco-moose "setup"
(what is a choco-moose?)

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[RBW] Re: How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[Don Compton]

Sorry, it was the Stockton Bike Club.

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 11:00:29 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Hey Don, was that the Benicia Club ride? I only showed up once, but it was 
> on a Romulus around that time.
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>

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[RBW] tire pressures

[Fullylugged]

I rode a perm yesterday on my 95 Road which is converted to 650B. It has Grand 
Bois Oursons (35 mm +/-) and I had 50 lbs front and 60 rear. Really nice over 
the shake-and-bake chip seal, and according to the Berto pressure app, I could 
have run even lower pressure.

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[RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Jeremy Tavan]

How about "user interface" - or is that my Silicon Valley talking?

/Jeremy

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 11:02:58 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Cockpit is commonly used because it's the easiest way to denote the 
> interface of bars, levers, shifters and doodads. I can't think of a better 
> single word for it. 

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[RBW] Re: BICYCLE 'COCKPIT'

[Joe Bernard]

Cockpit is commonly used because it's the easiest way to denote the interface 
of bars, levers, shifters and doodads. I can't think of a better single word 
for it. 

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[RBW] Re: How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[Joe Bernard]

Hey Don, was that the Benicia Club ride? I only showed up once, but it was on a 
Romulus around that time.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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