[RBW] My Debate

[Bill Lindsay]

What debate?  The obvious answer is both. The L'Avecaise is not a bike packing 
bike. It's a cyclotouring bike at most. The Riv model it most resembles would 
be a Roadeo. If you want a real touring bike or a bike packing bike, the Lyon 
is not necessarily that.  But if you want a light flexible road machine for fat 
tires, the Rivendell is maybe overbuilt.  You really need one of each, or maybe 
need to clear out your existing stable to make room 

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[RBW] My Debate

[Matt Gilkey]

I have owned a 56 cm Atlantis and I currently own a Jeff Lyon L'avecaise.  I 
loved the Atlantis and primarily used it as a mountain bike.  If I were forced 
to own only one bike I would have to pick the Atlantis for it's versatility. 
That being said I absolutely love my L'avecaise, and will never sell it. The 
feeling of the L'avecaise on the road is amazing. The handling is fantastic and 
it is by far the most comfortable "road" bike I have ever owned. And Jeff was 
great to work with, but so are the riv folks. 

I would say the choice comes down to what type of bike you are looking for. If 
I were in the market for mostly dirt road rides and touring I would get a riv. 
If I wanted a comfortable road bike that is also great on dirt roads I would 
choose the L'avecaise.  I feel that perhaps riv's are more versatile, but I 
love the feel of the L'avecaise. Hope that helps with the tough choice. 

-Matt

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Don Compton]

Re:my wife's bike. We are now in our 60's ( 64 and 65 ), but in our 50's we 
road a lot (6-7000 miles a year). We had to rebuild her Campy shifters 
several times and had to replace wheel sets, and finally replaced the Campy 
triple group with a Shimano Ultegra 6800 11sp group. But the frameset will 
remain her favorite forever.
In my experience, a well built and well designed bike is a great 
investment. Heck, we even had her Rex repainted.
Don C.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] My Debate

[Ian A]

A Riv and an L'Avecaise will be significantly contrasting frames. L'Avecaise 
having the flexible tubing that can give such a nice feel. The trail numbers 
also contrast massively. 

If you want an American handcrafted, low trail, randonneur style bicycle, the 
Jeff Lyon option clearly is most suitable. Assuming you are dead set on a 
purchase at this time and you don't already own something that fits the brief, 
I can't see any reason not to seize the opportunity.  As long as you are buying 
based on enjoying it and not based on buying simply because it's a great deal, 
that is. 

Disclosure: I am often wrong. 

Ian A/Canada


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[RBW] My Debate

[Bill in Roswell GA]

The little devil on my shoulder awoke when I saw that Jeff Lyon wants to 
move some L'Avecaise frames out with fork and headset (customer gets to 
pick the single, solid paint color). I'd been thinking Riv for years, but 
never justified pulling the trigger (I'm pretty happy with my stable, but 
I'm missing something to do bikepacking with - was thinking Wolverine, but 
then - you know - that NYT article came out; plus I just got rid of the 
monthly boat anchor at the local marina).

So, given the choice for the same price and knowing I can't go wrong either 
way, would you pick a Riv or L'Avecaise? 

I'm just interested in hearing some different points of view because my 
feeble brain isn't capable of thinking of every angle of consideration!

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA 



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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto S83, Brooks B17, Widefoot LiterCage

[Bob B]

Everything sold. Thank you!

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 1:52:54 PM UTC-5, Bob B wrote:
>
> I've got a few misc things for sale. Please respond privately:
>
> *Nitto S83 Seatpost:* Barely used, faint insertion marks only at the very 
> end, otherwise spotless (besides fingerprints!) *$65 CONUS*
>
> *Brooks B17:* Used, vintage, but in good shape. Been cared for with 
> proofhide. *$50 CONUS*
>
> *Widefoot Designs LiterCage:* Holds Nalgene or other liter-sized bottles, 
> or other things you can squeeze in there. Multiple holes allow for 
> different mounting positions. *$18 CONUS*
>
> Local pickup in NYC/Brooklyn gets $5 discount. Thank you! 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Thumbs up on that, Steve!

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 4:43:30 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 12/12/2016 04:29 PM, masmojo wrote: 
> > Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch for the 
> really expensive thing I want, with something good, but not what I want. 
> Inevitably, I am still not satisfied and eventually I  will plunk down the 
> money to get what I want! Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first 
> place. 
> > Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will too, so 
> that thing you bought and used extensively, will retain or even appreciate 
> in value while you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs $1,600 trek, in 15 years 
> which do you think is going to be worth more!? One guess!  
> > 
>
> The way you really win is to stay with it.  Over a 10 or 20 year 
> ownership period, the annual cost of a really, really nice bike becomes 
> reasonable or even downright cheap when compared to the cost of constant 
> churn, replacing a mid- or low-level bike with another one every couple 
> of years. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[eflayer]

Someone once said variety is the spice of life. Buying and holding a single 
bike does not align with that philosophy. I've owned many many fine bikes 
over the last 15 years and have enjoyed the adventure of learning about and 
riding a variety of styles, materials, and price points. My favorite of the 
35 or so is my custom ti made in a far away eastern foreign land.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/12/2016 07:15 PM, Will wrote:
I'll never forget my wife's first comment about my Atlantis. She 
said... "oh my god... it's f***king beautiful".




And the best part is, you keep feeling that, year after year.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[dstein]

That's great and all said and done unless you're like me and you 
essentially just raised the bar on what a bike costs, and then 2 or 3 more 
of those later

Thankfully rivendell's hold a lot of their value and a few mistakes (bikes 
I didn't like as much as I thought) didn't cost my too much in the end. I 
consider it a rental fee :)

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[RBW] Re: 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[RonaTD]

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 10:44:05 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I'll shortly have my VO Campeur set up with ~40mm studded tires, but am 
> thinking of setting up large Clem with larger studded tires as well.
> Any recommendations?
> Considering removing fenders but anything around 50mm would mean I could 
> keep them on.
> David
> in snowy Chicago, not quite ready for a snowy/icy commute
>

My experience - I have had Nokian W106 700x45c tires on my Quickbeam for 
many winters. Yes, the 45's fit. Barely! I have been very happy with their 
performance in a variety of conditions, but they add a lot of resistance!

I also have used Nokian A10 650x40b tires, which are really more like 35mm, 
on my Bleriot/Protovelo. I wasn't as happy with them, but just ordered 
another pair because I'm now commuting on a Cheviot with 650b wheels and 
they're the only snow tires that will work on that bike. On the Bleriot I 
found the front end tended to float up on the slush and lose traction.

I have also used Schwalbe Marathon Winter 559-50 tires on my Riv ATB, and 
not been happy. I had a chance yesterday to confirm my unhappiness. I took 
advantage of the weekend snow dump to put the Schwalbe's back on the Riv 
ATB and go for a romp. It reminded me why I was happy to take them off the 
bike last spring. At any reasonable speed, the tires very easily floated up 
on slush and the front end of the bike would start moving sideways. 

I then took the Cheviot out for the same loop, on its Compass Babyshoe Pass 
(650x42b) tires, and it was way more stable. Go figure. I rode the Cheviot 
to work this morning and it was fine until I hit the Milwaukee section of 
the bike path and 8" of snow. (Shorewood cleared their section of the path, 
God bless them!) Back on city streets the Compass tires were fine. There is 
not a lot of fender clearance, though, so the accumulating slush made for a 
good resistance training ride. I'm counting on the A10's having a bit more 
clearance, so there will be less slush buildup. I also think narrower tires 
are better for riding slushy sorta plowed city streets. The guy on the fat 
bike in front of me on the path this morning was probably glad for his huge 
tires, but only where we were riding in a fair amount of snow that hadn't 
been driven on.

So, if I had bought a 700c Cheviot, I'd have happily put the Nokian W106 
tires on it, though I'd be tempted to try the narrower 35's.

Ted Durant
Just a bit north of David in Milwaukee

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Don Compton]

I bought a custom Steve Rex for my wife 8-9 years ago. We spent about 
$5000. My wife is 5'1"and needed a custom frame set. She has nevered even 
considered wanting another bike. It really fits the author's experience.
Don C.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: J rain suit

[Steve Butcher]

Price drop:  I'll sell both the jacket and pants together for $50.00 
shipped CONUS.  Also, the jacket is the non-breathable version.  

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:03:42 AM UTC-6, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> I'm offering for sale a like new J Waterproof Rain Jacket size medium 
> yellow color and a like new J Waterproof Rain Pants size large black 
> color.  They are manufactured in Oregon and made for bicycling.  I've used 
> them only one or two times.  They look brand new w/o any holes or damage.  
> I've treated them with Nix Wax as recommended by J  I'm selling them 
> because I find I use my rain cape more.  I'd like to get $60.00 for the set 
> shipped CONUS.  I can text photos if desired.
>

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Will]

I'll never forget my wife's first comment about my Atlantis. She said... 
"oh my god... it's f***king beautiful". 

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 8:40:16 AM UTC-6, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/12/2016 05:33 PM, 'Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

I don't know who said it first:  "Buy the best, cry once."

Of course, a caveat, "best" is subjective.  I have found that 
statement to be true for many things:  hand tools, hiking/camping gear 
and clothing, eye and ear protection, my Rivendell, and a lot more 
items I will remember once I post this.


I am a dyed-in-the-wool cheapskate for a lot of other things, just to 
be clear.  Certainly not a fan of overspending for the most part.




"Best" can be completely objective, too: you just need criteria and a 
way to measure.  Cost-effective is one way to measure "best". Most 
expensive != "best", best is best but it can also be the most expensive.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/12/2016 05:45 PM, Ryan Fleming wrote:
very very true...and when you consider that if you commute by bike 
...think of busfare and gas you're not spending


Never mind bus fare, think of the $12-15 (at least, that's what it was 
at least 10 years ago!) daily car parking fee.  That adds up fast.  I 
relied on that when I bought a top of the line touring bike for my 
commuter; I figure I paid for the bike in savings in about a year and a 
half.





but if it gives you joy every time you look at it and ride it then 
it's a great investment


No, *and* it gives you joy every time you look at it and ride, so it is 
doubly a great investment!





On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:43:30 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:


On 12/12/2016 04:29 PM, masmojo wrote:
> Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch
for the really expensive thing I want, with something good, but
not what I want. Inevitably, I am still not satisfied and
eventually I  will plunk down the money to get what I want!
Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first place.
> Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will
too, so that thing you bought and used extensively, will retain or
even appreciate in value while you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs
$1,600 trek, in 15 years which do you think is going to be worth
more!? One guess! 
>

The way you really win is to stay with it.  Over a 10 or 20 year
ownership period, the annual cost of a really, really nice bike
becomes
reasonable or even downright cheap when compared to the cost of
constant
churn, replacing a mid- or low-level bike with another one every
couple
of years.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

['Beaverton Bob' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I don't know who said it first:  "Buy the best, cry once."

Of course, a caveat, "best" is subjective.  I have found that statement to 
be true for many things:  hand tools, hiking/camping gear and clothing, eye 
and ear protection, my Rivendell, and a lot more items I will remember once 
I post this.

I am a dyed-in-the-wool cheapskate for a lot of other things, just to be 
clear.  Certainly not a fan of overspending for the most part.

Beaverton Bob

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Kellie]

This is why I finally bought my Atlantis! 

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Ryan Fleming]

very very true...and when you consider that if you commute by bike ...think 
of busfare and gas you're not spending

but if it gives you joy every time you look at it and ride it then it's a 
great investment

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 3:43:30 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 12/12/2016 04:29 PM, masmojo wrote: 
> > Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch for the 
> really expensive thing I want, with something good, but not what I want. 
> Inevitably, I am still not satisfied and eventually I  will plunk down the 
> money to get what I want! Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first 
> place. 
> > Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will too, so 
> that thing you bought and used extensively, will retain or even appreciate 
> in value while you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs $1,600 trek, in 15 years 
> which do you think is going to be worth more!? One guess!  
> > 
>
> The way you really win is to stay with it.  Over a 10 or 20 year 
> ownership period, the annual cost of a really, really nice bike becomes 
> reasonable or even downright cheap when compared to the cost of constant 
> churn, replacing a mid- or low-level bike with another one every couple 
> of years. 
>

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[RBW] FS: Compass / Grand Bois 100mm stem - $155 shipped! ALMOST NEW

[Belopsky]

Well, I mucked up and this is 10mm too long for me.

Take it off my hands I'm really sad.

Installed once and then got fitted and g :(



$155 shipped!!! Compass sells for $217

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[RBW] FS- Deore crank arms, Cane Creek levers, dt shifters, rear der.

[Mike]

Hello all-

Just came across a few things I'm sure I'm not going to use. I'd like to send 
them to new homes where they might actually end up on a bike instead of in a 
box.  All are in decent, used condition. They are not new, but have tons of 
life left in them.  You probably don't want them on a fancy show bike, but for 
a commuter or daily rider they should work just fine for years to come!!

Crankset:  Shimano Deore mountain bike cranks.  175mm arms, 110/74 bcd.  The 
two large chain rings are trashed, but the inner (steel 24t) ring is in good 
shape.  I will probably just take off the outer two rings before shipping 
unless buyer wants them for some reason, like to grind down for a bash guard or 
something.  Again, these are used, shopworn, could use a cleaning/polishing, 
but functionally fine. $45 shipped

Brake levers:  Cane Creek SCR-5 levers.  Black hoods (the ones with the little 
lizards) with nice QR on the lever.  Right hood has a tiny (~5mm) tear.  Never 
bothered me when they were on my Rivendell, but switched out the noodles for 
other bars and don't need these any more. $25 shipped

Down tube Shifters:  these are a set of *very* svelt Suntour pure friction down 
tubers.  These came off a bike I got in about 1985/6, my first good bike- a 
Cannondale sport tourer.  (I actually got a deal on it because it was "last 
year's model." The then current "this year's model" was the first year with 
then-new index shifting.  So it could be argued that these are the ne plus 
ultra of friction shifters!)  They are as simple as you can imagine and attach 
to standard dt bosses.  They are in decent used condition.  I took them off 
around 1995 when I became a Suntour power ratchet barender guy.  They have been 
in a plastic bag, with all the parts and useable cables, ever since.  They 
could use a cleaning.  $25 shipped

Rear Derailer:  Suntour XC Sport 7000 long cage rear derailer.  Works fine. Has 
a few scratches near the pivots and could use a cleaning.  Once again- this is 
not for a showroom queen, but it's a very functional old-school mech that has 
many more shifts left in it.  $15 shipped.

Let me know if you have any questions or would like photos.  Please contact me 
*OFF LIST* at beewak -at- gmail -dot- com.  PayPal " friends and family" 
preferred.  If you are in NYC let me know and we could arrange pickup and save 
on shipping.


Cheers- Mike in Bklyn, NY

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/12/2016 04:29 PM, masmojo wrote:

Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch for the really 
expensive thing I want, with something good, but not what I want. Inevitably, I 
am still not satisfied and eventually I  will plunk down the money to get what 
I want! Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first place.
Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will too, so that thing 
you bought and used extensively, will retain or even appreciate in value while 
you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs $1,600 trek, in 15 years which do you think 
is going to be worth more!? One guess! 



The way you really win is to stay with it.  Over a 10 or 20 year 
ownership period, the annual cost of a really, really nice bike becomes 
reasonable or even downright cheap when compared to the cost of constant 
churn, replacing a mid- or low-level bike with another one every couple 
of years.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Addisonwilhite]

Not far from what Grant himself said a couple of decades ago and quoted here:

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2010/08/for-love-of-good-bike.html

Regards

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:29 PM, masmojo  wrote:
> 
> Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch for the really 
> expensive thing I want, with something good, but not what I want. Inevitably, 
> I am still not satisfied and eventually I  will plunk down the money to get 
> what I want! Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first place.
> Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will too, so that 
> thing you bought and used extensively, will retain or even appreciate in 
> value while you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs $1,600 trek, in 15 years which 
> do you think is going to be worth more!? One guess! 
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[RBW] Re: Speculating new Appaloosa green

[adam leibow]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNLQmjtgcNJ/

in the picture it appears to have a bit more blue and less yellow, and 
appear somehwat darker. overall just happy to see another green riv. <33
On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:25:47 AM UTC-8, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity I took current Appaloosa picture and played with color 
> tools.  Here's how it is likely to look.  Probably a tad darker (comparing 
> to the green fork they have shown in the pre-order page). 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[masmojo]

Speaking for myself I find that if I try to satisfy that itch for the really 
expensive thing I want, with something good, but not what I want. Inevitably, I 
am still not satisfied and eventually I  will plunk down the money to get what 
I want! Cheaper just to bite the bullet in the first place.
Also, if you  really love something, chances are others will too, so that thing 
you bought and used extensively, will retain or even appreciate in value while 
you use it!  $1,600. Appaloosa Vs $1,600 trek, in 15 years which do you think 
is going to be worth more!? One guess! 

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[dougP]

It's been said that, in the long run, it's often cheaper to pay retail.  

dougP

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:40:16 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
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Re: [RBW] 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[Tim Gavin]

There are lots of options in 35-40 mm; the OP (David) already has one bike 
with those.  

I picked up a pair of Nokian Suomi Hakkapeliitta W240 622-40 tires 
recently; my girlfriend will try them on a Specialized Tricross.  I use 
studded Dillinger 5's on my fat bike for ultimate traction.  I'm mounting 
them up tonight.

I'm glad to hear that the 650b A10s are working out for you, Zed.  The only 
other 650b studded tire I know of is the 584-57 Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro 
, a 
very aggressive off-road tire.  Looks like a winner for unplowed paths 
though.

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>
> Actually, Nokian/Suomi does make the A10 which is more commuting and less 
> off road oriented. I've used the 622-35 Scwalbe Winter Marathons on a 
> previous bike and am now trying the 574-40 Suomi A10s on my own Clem. The 
> A10 has fewer spikes than the Winter Marathon so not as grippy on ice but 
> it seems to roll a lot better on dry pavement. It looks like the A10 comes 
> in 622-40, and Peter White sells them.

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Re: [RBW] 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[Zed Martinez]

Sorry. Dang phone. I of course meant I am trying the 584-40 A10s. 

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Ron Mc]

"but dear, the New York Times pushed me over the ledge."  

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Re: [RBW] 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[Zed Martinez]

Actually, Nokian/Suomi does make the A10 which is more commuting and less off 
road oriented. I've used the 622-35 Scwalbe Winter Marathons on a previous bike 
and am now trying the 574-40 Suomi A10s on my own Clem. The A10 has fewer 
spikes than the Winter Marathon so not as grippy on ice but it seems to roll a 
lot better on dry pavement. It looks like the A10 comes in 622-40, and Peter 
White sells them.

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[RBW] FS - 2 Pair Shimano Brake Levers

[stoker]

Sold!!

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Re: [RBW] 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[Tim Gavin]

For commuting, I've heard lots of good reviews for the Schwalbe Marathon
Winter.  They're available in 700 x 50 (29 x 2") and 700 x 42.  The studs
are on the sides of the tread, so they don't drag as much in normal
riding--but they can help in icy ruts.  Peter White has them, or get them
from Europe for cheap.

They're heavy and slow, but that's true of all studded tires.

Most of the other wide studded tires (Nokian Suomi, 45Nrth, etc) have
aggressive tread for MTB use, which is overkill and added drag for
commuting.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the Nokian Mount & Grounds. They're 26", but Nokian makes other 29"
> options. I love mine.
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[RBW] 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[Michael Morrissey]

I have the Nokian Mount & Grounds. They're 26", but Nokian makes other 29" 
options. I love mine.  

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[RBW] 29er/700c Studded Tire Options for Clem.

[David Banzer]

I'll shortly have my VO Campeur set up with ~40mm studded tires, but am 
thinking of setting up large Clem with larger studded tires as well.
Any recommendations?
Considering removing fenders but anything around 50mm would mean I could 
keep them on.
David
in snowy Chicago, not quite ready for a snowy/icy commute

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[RBW] Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Surlyprof]

Thanks Edwin.  This article will be perfect for a class I'm teaching about 
emotionally durable design next semester.

John

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto S83, Brooks B17, Widefoot LiterCage

[Bob B]

Cage is claimed, here's what's left:

*Brooks B17:* Used, vintage, but in good shape. Been cared for with 
> proofhide. *$50 CONUS*



On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:31:01 PM UTC-5, Bob B wrote:
>
> Seatpost is claimed. Here's what's left
>
>  
>
>> *Brooks B17:* Used, vintage, but in good shape. Been cared for with 
>> proofhide. *$50 CONUS*
>
>  
>
>> *Widefoot Designs LiterCage:* Holds Nalgene or other liter-sized 
>> bottles, or other things you can squeeze in there. Multiple holes allow for 
>> different mounting positions. *$18 CONUS*
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 2:12:59 PM UTC-5, Bob B wrote:
>>
>> Seatpost is 27.2
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 1:52:54 PM UTC-5, Bob B wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got a few misc things for sale. Please respond privately:
>>>
>>> *Nitto S83 Seatpost:* Barely used, faint insertion marks only at the 
>>> very end, otherwise spotless (besides fingerprints!) *$65 CONUS*
>>>
>>> *Brooks B17:* Used, vintage, but in good shape. Been cared for with 
>>> proofhide. *$50 CONUS*
>>>
>>> *Widefoot Designs LiterCage:* Holds Nalgene or other liter-sized 
>>> bottles, or other things you can squeeze in there. Multiple holes allow for 
>>> different mounting positions. *$18 CONUS*
>>>
>>> Local pickup in NYC/Brooklyn gets $5 discount. Thank you! 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Trail calculator

[lum gim fong]

If I get another bike I'm hoping it will be a super light low trail bike like 
Boulder sells.

I carry small front loads.

I have two Rivendell bikes that I love. But  I'm also interested to see what 
skinny tube low trail bikes ride like.

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[RBW] Re: Speculating new Appaloosa green

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Looks good.  I'm a big fan of dark green as a bicycle color.  



On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 8:25:47 AM UTC-6, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
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> Out of curiosity I took current Appaloosa picture and played with color 
> tools.  Here's how it is likely to look.  Probably a tad darker (comparing 
> to the green fork they have shown in the pre-order page). 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Belopsky]

Jan wrote a good one as well

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 9:40:16 AM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
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> I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 
> 
>  
> about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
> bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: TRP RRL SR brake levers - gum / grey - Brand new in package $70 shipped!

[Belopsky]

This is pending!

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 4:14:48 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
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> I can't do a pm from my phone but I'll take them if no one else has 
> claimed them.
>
> John
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[RBW] Need help justifying a Rivendell?

[Edwin W]

I know most of you do not... but here is a good article 

 
about why buying a more expensive version of something (happens to be a 
bike, and a Moots) can be the right decision.

Edwin

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[RBW] Fabricated floor-to-ceiling repair stand

[true]

Impressive:
Nice work.

I can picture doing something similar in my garage.

Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Trail calculator

[René Sterental]

Definitely!

On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:08 PM Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> On 12/11/2016 01:36 PM, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> > Anybody on this Rivendell list a low trail convert?
>
>
>
> Yes
>
>
>
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