[RBW] Cycles of life

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

-- 

www.freerice.com
play and feed a hungry person

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[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Garth]

Fwiw, I have been reading Riv stuff since the very late 90's and I cannot 
recall a year in which their budget was not discussed in some way. Every 
business likely has such discussions in some form or fashion about budget 
whether private or public. Regardless, here they are today 2017, so something 
must be happening in their favor to still be. 

I have also experienced the implied pressure to to buy things from them in some 
way. But hey, this is no different than any business that is favored, you like 
shopping there and want it to continue. It's like you become attached to it in 
a way, but if that turns into a sense of responsibility and obligation for it's 
very existenceI would be fooling only myself. 

So hey, if we are speaking of "just riding" and riding like we are kids, these 
metaphors express life itself, not just parts of it since that is setting more 
of the very conditions we are supposedly being free of. Simply BEing. is 
unconditional. Celebrating BEing for the simply fact that I Be.  So too, "just 
shop" shop like a kid like venturing the corner store down the street 
on the banana seated bike to buy a Baby Ruth bar and a Slo-Poke to savor over 
the weekend. 

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[RBW] real cyclists ride steel

[Garth]

Yep... people are people everywhere, regardless of appearences. I have had 
wonderful conversations with motorcyclists while riding, even whole packs of 
them. People just like being acknowledged, it's quite simple. 

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Re: [RBW] real cyclists ride steel

[Fullylugged]

Thanks Patrick. The bike is a nice old Tange tubed Japanese crit racer for 
pre-conglomerate Nashbar that has been converted to 650B. After a respray, it 
got an "Old Man Peterson's Ferrous Velocipedes" seat tube decal, and so also 
the name, "Ferrous Beuller." 

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[RBW] real cyclists ride steel

[Fullylugged]

Thanks Ian.  The jersey is a wool blend MTB jersey with a single zipper rear 
pocket, by Canari. It is very comfortable. I'm sure I found it on Ebay.

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[RBW] real cyclists ride steel

[Fullylugged]

The Harley folks were indeed very personable. One is a singer in a local band 
and saw the "RUSH" jersey one of our group had on. They spent several minutes 
trying to beat each other at a pick-up game of Rush trivia. "What song was 
written for Neil Peart to try out for the band on?"  and etc.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

[Fullylugged]

I live near Montgomery, AL but every other week work in Cedartown with a 
Rambouillet packed in the car. I ride a couple of nights after work, usually 
solo, but sometimes with the Rome Rides A Bike gang.  Give a shout anytime you 
want to set something steel framed up!

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[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

We love these pedals and spec them on a lot of customer bikes.  For the handy 
tinkerer, they can be rehab'd inexpensively with a rebuild kit.  

Calling out my obvious bias on the topic.Large volume online blowouts like 
this have a real effect on small businesses.  It's undeniably short-sighted and 
only serves immediate cash flow needs.  Some brands do a better job than others 
to control this from happening.  

IMO to post an item that's listed for sale on the Riv website is not nice.  
I'd be happy to defend my theories off list with anyone who argues in favor of 
the "free market" theory.

Don't take this post as shaming, it's not my intention.  I'm only trying to 
relay a point of view that may not have been considered fully.

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I think there is a point to this, but it can be a gray area. Technically, 
Rivendell is mainly an online seller, meaning they are theoretically taking 
sales away from my local shop. However, this mostly remains in the 
theoretical realm, for mostly obvious reasons. On the other hand, Amazon is 
currently destroying more businesses than Walmart or Home Depot ever did. I 
don't shop there as a rule. 

Then there are the more direct competitors, such as VO, or big online bike 
shops like Modernbike, Niagara Cycles, Wiggle, etc, as well as purveyors of 
wool products like Ibex. When it comes down to it, though, there is not a 
huge amount of crossover product. Riv specs but does not sell the pedals 
linked in this post. And as Patrick points out, this is not an official Riv 
site, and does not require owning a Rivendell bicycle to participate.

Still, I would guess most of us are big supporters of the company. I almost 
always adhere to the request Grant once made about several products that 
can be found elsewhere for perhaps cheaper prices--hey, if you heard about 
it from us, buy it from us as a courtesy. Even with stuff I have been 
buying for years from other sources--the black wool merino sportskins, for 
example--if Riv has my size in stock when I need something, I buy it from 
them. There are rare exceptions--I used to always buy my Boeshield when 
placing orders, but now they only sell the small can, so I started getting 
it elsewhere. And the  rear rim on a brand new Atlas wheelset just took an 
unrepairable hit, but Riv does not sell these rims separately. The 
manufacturer offers it for $87.99 plus $14.00 shipping, or I can get it 
from Bikemania for $59.99, same shipping charge. (Of course BM has every 
single configuration in stock except the 36h silver finish that I need...)

In the bigger picture, this constant drive toward the *apparent* cheapest 
price, the reliance on subsidized shipping (yes, even at the increasing 
shipping, it's all subsidized) and cheap labor, the destruction of local 
anything, is all coming to a not very pretty end. It has only lasted this 
long because those  who derive great benefit from it have done everything 
possible to keep the globalization scheme running as long as possible.

Meanwhile, I'm heading over to Rivbike.com to buy some pannier rails for my 
Clem rack, and a few other assorted Goods & Sundries.



On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 8:06:50 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:
>
> I appreciate a good heads up as much as the next guy, but i do think we 
> need to reign in the discussions about shopping elsewhere besides Rivendell 
> - at least on this forum.  As Grant put it recently (in multiple ways and 
> places, actually), a business like theirs lives and dies with sales.

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Quick clarification on my post, I have nothing against competition...online or 
otherwise.  It's mainly the practice of dumping large volumes of goods into the 
market at unhealthy/unsustainable prices (below even distributor pricing).

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, but that dumping is part and parcel of the current economic system.

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:15:57 AM UTC-5, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Quick clarification on my post, I have nothing against 
> competition...online or otherwise.  It's mainly the practice of dumping 
> large volumes of goods into the market at unhealthy/unsustainable prices 
> (below even distributor pricing).

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[Ron Mc]

I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in 
customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week.  
I tried some Garneau knickers which are good, but these are much better.  
They feel tight when you put them on, then they disappear..  They stretch 
everywhere really.  Everyone should like the length, and I really dig the 
cinch at the bottom of the legs.  
They're soft and light, don't need a belt (the Garneau do).  
The seams are so soft they don't mark your saddle  
I like the Karpos as almost as much as MUSA knickers.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[Ron Mc]

here's the link for the Karpos knickers
https://www.trekkinn.com/outdoor-mountain/karpos-casatsch-baggy-3-4/137009/p&cesta_post=542306_1_null&idiomap=eng&pxst=210

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 9:31:18 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in 
> customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week.  
> I tried some Garneau knickers which are good, but these are much better.  
> They feel tight when you put them on, then they disappear..  They stretch 
> everywhere really.  Everyone should like the length, and I really dig the 
> cinch at the bottom of the legs.  
> They're soft and light, don't need a belt (the Garneau do).  
> The seams are so soft they don't mark your saddle  
> I like the Karpos as almost as much as MUSA knickers.  
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Daniel D.]

For the past month.  I've had a spending freeze on non-essentials.  No big 
reason,  just on a whim.  Like going on a cleanse for my wallet.  These pedals 
are testing my resolve. But pedals are consumables right?:p

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1997 57cm Rivendell Road, Waterford-built; $1500 OBO

[Bill M.]

On my Road Std., 28 mm Roly Poly's were a tight fit with plastic fenders, 
and 32's were a tight fit without fenders.  Short reach brakes are pretty 
limiting.

Bill
Stockton, CA

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-8, Todd Fahrner wrote:
>
> Eh, looking again, I think 32 with fender may be *too* tight unless a 
> funky bridge-interruptor type fender. So 28 is the largest I'd say OK with, 
> say, VO hammered fenders.
>
> -- 
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>
> On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-8, Todd Fahrner wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Tim, for providing detailed geometry. I confirm this is a 57cm 
>> Road Standard. Prior to actually fitting said tires and fenders, it's hard 
>> to say for sure what will fit, but my good-faith guess is that it will fit 
>> 35s without fender, 32 with fender (tight) and 28 with fenders no problem. 
>> Yes, there are eyelets.
>>
>> Owning a bike shop, can fit these in advance to confirm: you specify 
>> tire/fender; will charge wholesale. It's got 32 Paselas on there now. 
>>
>> -- 
>> todd
>>
>> On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 6:18:00 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's the geometry sheets for the 1st generation Rivendell frames, 
>>> including the Road Standard.  
>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/#catalog5 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Tire clearance is supposed to be up to a 700 x 35, but there seems to be 
>>> some variation on this.  My '97 Road Standard 59 cm, for example, has very 
>>> tight tire clearance.  A 700 x 28 barely fits, anything larger will rub.  I 
>>> like it on 650 x 38 wheels, though that results in a very low BB.
>>>
>>> Todd, I'm curious about the tire clearance as well.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Belopsky  wrote:
>>>
 Can you provide some measurements? What's the biggest tire this will 
 fit? Fender mounts?

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[RBW] Re: bar height

[Don Compton]

They're set 1cm above the saddle. Also, the bars are Soma Highway One's. 
Short reach  and very shallow drop.

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 10:05:24 PM UTC-8, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Don
>
> How much further are your bars above the saddle??  I have my bars 15mm 
> above the saddle. 
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 11:55:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>
>> I have finally given in to Grant's bar height philosophy. Please forgive 
>> me for my past transgressions. On my Roadeo I raised my bars slightly above 
>> my saddle and I am much more comfortable and able to spin as before ( I am 
>> 65 ).
>>
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[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Joe Bernard]

I posted a response to this last night, but a missing word really screwed up 
the final sentence. Trying again: I don't feel comfortable finding a better 
deal on this list for something Riv sells (referring to new products from 
online sellers). I already bought VP-001 pedals from Riv a couple weeks ago, 
and had been looking for something cheaper/less durable for an ebike which 
won't see heavy pedal pressure. I bought the Bauhaus plastic pedal from that 
linked sight, and mentioned that Grant might like them enough to sell them. 

The moral being, I don't have a problem with a sale like that being posted 
because so much of the product is not carried by RBW, but I personally would 
not click the link to get a better price on something Riv sells. Your results 
may vary. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[John Hawrylak]

Ron

Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when riding??  

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:31:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:

> I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in 
> customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week.  
> I tried some Garneau knickers which are good, but these are much better.  
> They feel tight when you put them on, then they disappear..  They stretch 
> everywhere really.  Everyone should like the length, and I really dig the 
> cinch at the bottom of the legs.  
> They're soft and light, don't need a belt (the Garneau do).  
> The seams are so soft they don't mark your saddle  
> I like the Karpos as almost as much as MUSA knickers.  
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[drew]

In principle and theory I understand the argument against big discount sites 
sweeping the legs of the little guy.

In practice in this group, I tend to disagree with the argument. i went from a 
1 rivendell home when I joined the list, to a 4 rivendell home (2 new 2 used). 
I blame you guys. All the bikes have mostly parts from rivendell. All have a 
riv bag. There will be more purchases in the coming months and years. I don't 
think grant and co would say I haven't done my part.

My point is that here, in this little vacuum, we already lean hard into sending 
rivendell our business and support. Maybe weirdly hard sometimes. 

I don't see the issue with an occasional deal on pedals, or whatever, when 90% 
of your bike's parts were purchased at one place, and someone on a group who 
also has an expensive bike that they bought from that same place sends it to 
you. 

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Re: [RBW] real cyclists ride steel

[Steven Sweedler]

Mentioning Neil Peart, he has written two very enjoyable touring books, The
Masked Rider, about a bicycle tour in West Africa, and The Ghost Rider,
about  a solo motorcycle tour in western North America: Alaska, Canada, USA
and Mexico. Steve
Campeche, Mexico
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:56 AM Fullylugged 
wrote:

> The Harley folks were indeed very personable. One is a singer in a local
> band and saw the "RUSH" jersey one of our group had on. They spent several
> minutes trying to beat each other at a pick-up game of Rush trivia. "What
> song was written for Neil Peart to try out for the band on?"  and etc.
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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[Patrick Shea]

How is the sizing? I have some MUSA large pants and they are perfect. The
inseam sounds out of proportion to the waist sizing.

Cheers,
Patrick

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:55 AM, John Hawrylak 
wrote:

> Ron
>
> Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when riding??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:31:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
>> I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in
>> customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week.
>> I tried some Garneau knickers which are good, but these are much better.
>> They feel tight when you put them on, then they disappear..  They stretch
>> everywhere really.  Everyone should like the length, and I really dig the
>> cinch at the bottom of the legs.
>> They're soft and light, don't need a belt (the Garneau do).
>> The seams are so soft they don't mark your saddle
>> I like the Karpos as almost as much as MUSA knickers.
>>
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[RBW] PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Joe Bernard]

Oh, I forgot to mention the cheapy pedals needed to be black to match the 
not-one-ounce-of-silver motif of my new Haibike. Normally I would just grab RMX 
pedals from Riv, which would have been the 7th or 8th time. RBW probably has a 
separate column in my Purchase History just for MKS RMX ;-) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[Patrick Moore]

That would also be my question. I just took a pair of wool dress pants to
the tailor yesterday to be cut to knicker length, and for me, knicker
length is long enough so that when I raise my knee above my waist, the hem
can be cinched tightly just below the knee and just begin to bind. I
suppose mine are really "plus 8s."

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:55 AM, John Hawrylak 
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> Ron
>
> Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when riding??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:31:18 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
>> I have a review on Karpos knickers, which I bought from Holland. Sat in
>> customs for 3 weeks, but finally arrived this week.
>> I tried some Garneau knickers which are good, but these are much better.
>> They feel tight when you put them on, then they disappear..  They stretch
>> everywhere really.  Everyone should like the length, and I really dig the
>> cinch at the bottom of the legs.
>> They're soft and light, don't need a belt (the Garneau do).
>> The seams are so soft they don't mark your saddle
>> I like the Karpos as almost as much as MUSA knickers.
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Patrick Moore]

Mark: do you mean our subsidized roads and motor vehicle infrastructure, or
do you go further than this? I'm curious how far non-transportation money
helps pay for transportation.

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>
> In the bigger picture, this constant drive toward the *apparent* cheapest
> price, the reliance on subsidized shipping (yes, even at the increasing
> shipping, it's all subsidized)
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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[Ron Mc]

I'm not going to compare them to MUSA, because MUSA are perfect in my book. 
. 
I'll compare them to the Garneau, which don't stay below your knee.  The 
knee gusset in the Garneau is comfortable, but it actually causes them to 
ride up , and the short velcro strap on the Garneau won't seal the wind 
out.  
The bottom cinch on the Karpos is the cinch on a quality weather shell and 
works great.  

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 12:42:44 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> That would also be my question. I just took a pair of wool dress pants to 
> the tailor yesterday to be cut to knicker length, and for me, knicker 
> length is long enough so that when I raise my knee above my waist, the hem 
> can be cinched tightly just below the knee and just begin to bind. I 
> suppose mine are really "plus 8s."
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:55 AM, John Hawrylak  > wrote:
>
>> Ron
>>
>> Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when riding??  
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Rivsters Rock

[Edwin W]

Caught a few songs from the band Lylas  at our local 
record shop Grimeys  a few weeks ago. Drums and 
guitar ride Rivs and rock!
Not common to have three Riv owners in the same room in Nashville!

Yours from Music City,

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Edwin W]

I like the idea of "if you heard about it from Riv and they sell it, buy it 
from them as a courtesy." The (usually small) increase in price is worth 
the mountains of advice I have received from them and you all. "Tuition 
comes in many forms," as my friend's dad says.

I guess they have to limit how many different models they can stock. I was 
impressed by the ones on the complete Appaloosas I saw at RBW HQ, but Riv 
doesn't sell those. The NP2, I think.

Edwin

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 3:29:09 PM UTC-6, Glen wrote:
>
> Steep and Cheap has VP-001 and Vice along with some others on sale right 
> now.
>
> $33 for the 001s and $30 for the Vices
>
> There was a discussion about the Shimano A530s on here a while ago, they 
> are on sale too.
>
> www.steepandcheap.com 
>
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[RBW] FS: NIB SP PV-8 dynamo hub, 36H, red: $95 shipped

[Anton Tutter]

I'm offering a NIB SP PV-8 dynamo hub for $95 shipped CONUS-- 30% off the 
retail price of $130. This unit was shipped to a customer but was the wrong 
model, so it got returned to me after he received the correct one. I don't 
normally keep stock so I'd rather offer it to the list than pay to return 
it to my Taiwanese distributor.

Contact me off-list if interested.



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Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

[RichS]

Hi Bill:

Bill, thanks for compiling a list of ATL Riv/Rivish riders. I don't know 
Tony Scott. Which area of ATL does he live in?

Best regards,
Richard



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>
> Hi Rich,
>
> I'm attempting to compile a list of RBW/iBob riders in the area. 
>
> I don't yet have a Riv, but I have a stable of steel bikes, Bridgestone, 
> Trek and Bianchi. 
>
> Do you know Tony Scott? He just got a beautiful Terra Firma. 
>
> Cheers,
> Bill in Roswell, GA
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-5, RichS wrote:
>>
>> Very good! Nice to see more GA based Riv owners showing up here. Which 
>> models do you ride? 
>>
>> Regards, 
>> Richard 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>
>> > On Dec 16, 2016, at 7:58 AM, 'Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > There are two more of us with Riv's in South Forsyth/Cumming that would 
>> like to meet up.  We've been talking about doing a local ride and finishing 
>> up with a Jekyl brewery tour. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Garth]

  From my understand large retailers have contracts with shippers.  The 
details are unknown to the public but I don't think it is the same as a 
per-shipment deal like a small business and the public get. Like some sort 
of bulk deal agreed upon. So looking at their shipping costs from a 
perspective outside of this contractual deal it could be seen as a 
"subsidy" because you would be comparing it to the public and small 
business per-shipment basis. This may or may not be the actual case as the 
rules of the contracts are unknown, so either way it's a guess.


 
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>
>
> Mark: do you mean our subsidized roads and motor vehicle infrastructure, 
> or do you go further than this? I'm curious how far non-transportation 
> money helps pay for transportation.
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:59 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In the bigger picture, this constant drive toward the *apparent* 
>> cheapest price, the reliance on subsidized shipping (yes, even at the 
>> increasing shipping, it's all subsidized) 
>>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[Patrick Moore]

I had a pair of the original MUSA knickers, and they were pretty good:
perfect weight -- not too heavy, not too light; long enough to stay cinched
below knee, but IMO, cut too low in the waist, and had no fly -- I wanna
fly, unless I wear tights.



On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> I'm not going to compare them to MUSA, because MUSA are perfect in my
> book. .
> I'll compare them to the Garneau, which don't stay below your knee.  The
> knee gusset in the Garneau is comfortable, but it actually causes them to
> ride up , and the short velcro strap on the Garneau won't seal the wind
> out.
> The bottom cinch on the Karpos is the cinch on a quality weather shell and
> works great.
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 12:42:44 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> That would also be my question. I just took a pair of wool dress pants to
>> the tailor yesterday to be cut to knicker length, and for me, knicker
>> length is long enough so that when I raise my knee above my waist, the hem
>> can be cinched tightly just below the knee and just begin to bind. I
>> suppose mine are really "plus 8s."
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:55 AM, John Hawrylak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> Does the Karpos knickers remain below your knee when riding??
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It looks like a Blue Bike to me. It may not be a Rivendell, but I suppose 
we could give it honorary membership; after all, the cables *are* held to 
the frame with zip ties.

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 12:26:53 PM UTC-5, Alex Clarke wrote:
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I was hoping someone could help me identify this bicycle I have, I have 
> been told it is a Rambouillet but I am not 100% sure or convince. Any help 
> would be amazing!
>
> (I have attached some pictures)
>
> Thanks
>
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[RBW] Re: Cycles of life

[dougP]

This explains a lot.  Should be a PSA.

dougP

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>
> -- 
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> www.freerice.com
> play and feed a hungry person
>
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[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

[Joe Bernard]

It's a RamboNOT ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

[Belopsky]

You all scared alex away :(

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[RBW] Re: Rivsters Rock

[dstein]

That's awesome, I know the singer, Kyle (assuming he's a non-riv rider, or 
a non-rider)...and probably the other guys but it's been almost 6 years 
since I lived there and my memory is hazy. Their new record is pretty good 
from the little bit I've heard.

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>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> Caught a few songs from the band Lylas  at our local 
> record shop Grimeys  a few weeks ago. Drums and 
> guitar ride Rivs and rock!
> Not common to have three Riv owners in the same room in Nashville!
>
> Yours from Music City,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Identifying a potential 'Rivendell'

[Jim M.]

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>
> It's a RamboNOT ;-)


How about Ram-boo-nay? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Justin August]

To be fair: this price is not really rare or exclusive. If you check EBay 
you'll see that everyone who isn't a small online bike shop is selling them for 
below $50. 

However, when Riv has stock I shop from them if the price differential is less 
than 20% or so. But when it's literally 70% off? I don't know. 

-Justin, with 2 cents +/- 20%

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Daniel D.]

well then guess it's nothing to get worked up about.  It's a great deal...

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> To be fair: this price is not really rare or exclusive. If you check EBay 
> you'll see that everyone who isn't a small online bike shop is selling them 
> for below $50.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Rich, Tony lives in the Decatur area. A friend of mine rides with him 
regularly. 

I used to do Ride to the Capital, but I'm over-committed for March as is!

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, Ga

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 3:44:28 PM UTC-5, RichS wrote:
>
> Hi Bill:
>
> Bill, thanks for compiling a list of ATL Riv/Rivish riders. I don't know 
> Tony Scott. Which area of ATL does he live in?
>
> Best regards,
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 1:37:06 AM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>> I'm attempting to compile a list of RBW/iBob riders in the area. 
>>
>> I don't yet have a Riv, but I have a stable of steel bikes, Bridgestone, 
>> Trek and Bianchi. 
>>
>> Do you know Tony Scott? He just got a beautiful Terra Firma. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bill in Roswell, GA
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-5, RichS wrote:
>>>
>>> Very good! Nice to see more GA based Riv owners showing up here. Which 
>>> models do you ride? 
>>>
>>> Regards, 
>>> Richard 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>
>>> > On Dec 16, 2016, at 7:58 AM, 'Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > There are two more of us with Riv's in South Forsyth/Cumming that 
>>> would like to meet up.  We've been talking about doing a local ride and 
>>> finishing up with a Jekyl brewery tour. 
>>> > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Debate

[Bill in Roswell GA]

Nice country riding around Cedartown. If you would, send me an email per 
your address so I can add it to the list. 

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 8:59:15 AM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> I live near Montgomery, AL but every other week work in Cedartown with a 
> Rambouillet packed in the car. I ride a couple of nights after work, 
> usually solo, but sometimes with the Rome Rides A Bike gang.  Give a shout 
> anytime you want to set something steel framed up!

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Ray Varella]

I treat my favorite bike/parts sellers the same way I treat my local hardware 
store. 
I go there first. I want them to stay in business because they provide a level 
of knowledge and courtesy that a big box or large anonymous online seller does 
not. 

When you deal with people who have invested decades in their chosen field, 
there is intrinsic value included. 
If we as a society, price shop those individuals out of business, they won't 
get replaced. 


Ray
Vallejo CA

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