Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[Eric Norris]

No … the IQ-X is far, far brighter. The Magnic Lights aren’t as bright, but 
they are bright enough to ride by, are always on, and have virtually no drag. 

It’s all about trade-offs.

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> On Jul 21, 2017, at 12:00 PM, lum gim fong  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info Eric. You like them better than using your IQX? They 
> sound excellent. 
> 
> But alas, after crashes and injury due to 28mm and narrower tires getting 
> hung up in sidewalk/pavement liips/cracks. I don't like riding anything 
> narrower than 38mm wide tires.
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[RBW] Re: WTB: WI Dos Eno 16/19t

[Birdman]

Thanks, Jonathan, so do I, but I can't shake the feeling that a little less 
axle movement and a slightly lower gear from a 16/19 would be perfection on my 
hasty ent.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: WI Dos Eno 16/19t

[Deacon Patrick]

Depending on your terrain, a one tooth difference may not be essential, so 
a 16-18 could get you there. I use my 32/40 16/19 set up for all roads and 
trails, including singletrack on Pikes Peak. If your terrain is less 
extreme, you'll do just fine with a 16-18. Where are you riding?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 8:55:33 PM UTC-6, Jonathan D. wrote:
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> I've got a 16-18 dos Eno 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: WI Dos Eno 16/19t

[Jonathan D.]

I've got a 16-18 dos Eno 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: WI Dos Eno 16/19t

[Birdman]

Thanks, Patrick. I found an old thread where you mentioned that Riv could 
likely order one for me. I thought I'd try here first. I'm glad to hear that 
you give it a ringing endorsement!

Isaac

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[RBW] Re: WTB: WI Dos Eno 16/19t

[Deacon Patrick]

Not a chance! I love mine! Have you contacted White Industries or 
Rivendell? They should be able to order it for you. It's part of their 
double/double set, but you should be able to just get the duo 
freewheel. https://www.whiteind.com/double-double

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 7:54:26 PM UTC-6, Birdman wrote:
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm looking for a White Industries Dos Eno 16/19t. Anyone have one in good 
> shape that you'd be willing to pass on?
>
> Isaac
>
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[RBW] WTB: WI Dos Eno 16/19t

[Birdman]

Hi folks,

I'm looking for a White Industries Dos Eno 16/19t. Anyone have one in good 
shape that you'd be willing to pass on?

Isaac

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[Bob K.]

I'm waiting on my pre-ordered Sinewave Beacon headlight + USB charger combo. 
It's a really cool system with a ton of interesting perks, including the 
particularly neat way you can charge an external battery pack from the light 
while also relying on it for power when you're traveling at low speeds. Not to 
mention it's MUSA and the owner of the company has been incredibly responsive 
to my communications, even offering to loan me a prototype unit for a trip I 
just took because production was just slightly behind schedule. 

https://www.sinewavecycles.com/products/sinewave-cycles-beacon

I'll be using an SP PD-8 hub. I don't know anything about drag and don't think 
I'll notice.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[Garth]

Just the rivvy ones John, they were special made fro Riv. The regular Touring 
fw hubs are solid flanges. PW would have to be contacted as to their 
availability. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Joe is a very nice bike.  My decision to part with it mostly has to do with 
my riding 'opportunities'.  Between family, work and couple of other things 
I've been involved in,  I only get to ride around the town.  My MTB got 
stolen recently.  After that I'm afraid to take Joe if the trip requires 
locking it (like going out for dinner/lunch).  I end up riding an old road 
bike in those situation.  The thing is worth $100, so I don't tend to think 
of the bike the whole time I'm at a dinner.  Also, the grocery shops I 
frequent are too cramped to take the bike inside.  I just do not feel 
comfortable locking the bike for even 15 minutes.  Just too many thefts and 
vandalisms around.

The 'need' I have now is an MTB for occasional rides on weekends.  So Hunq 
is likely the next project.

I'm hoping to have a bike like Joe again in couple of years when I will 
have more chances for full day/multi day rides (kids need grow up a little 
bit).  

My wife keeps saying the bike looks 'too big' for me.  But that's not the 
reason I'm selling it :)   


On Friday, 21 July 2017 09:28:25 UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Hh... I looked back through FS posts on this forum, nothing 
> scientific, nothing formal, but I see a wide variety of bikes for sale, 
> more Sam's, a few Homer's, but there are Atlantis, Cheviot's, Clem's, Betty 
> Foy's, a Riv Road, a Roscoe, other non-Riv bikes.
>
> I know there was at least one person who had miscalculated a bit on using 
> drop bars (on the Joe) and there have been times of financial or other 
> need.  That said, I am pretty sure the Joe's do not come for sale any more 
> often than other bikes, at least not on this forum.  I think there have 
> been re-posts and bumps of specific bikes for sale and maybe that makes it 
> seem so.
>
> Anyway, there are many reasons to sell a bike... Many of us are 
> experimenters, try'ers of things and, at times, keeping that going 
> sometimes demands the letting go of other bikes.  Also, sometimes the bike 
> that might bring the most $$ return is the one that needs to go, based on 
> circumstances, etc.  Though it is not true at the moment for me, there have 
> been times when I realized the bike I rode the most was actually one of the 
> least valuable (to others) just because of locking bikes up or otherwise 
> putting bikes at risk.
>
> I will say that my Joe A., for me, right now, with my current needs and 
> how I ride, it is hard to imagine a more useful, fun, adaptable bike.  With 
> my set-up (Bullmoose bars) I wish it was a little less wide (and am working 
> on that), but it fits me perfectly and brings a smile every time I ride it. 
>  I have other bikes that might do specific things better, but none of my 
> other bikes can seem to do what the Joe can do.  There have been a few 
> times when I wish it were not so, as I am indeed the experimenter, and $$ 
> are tied up in the Joe and the Cheviot.  But there it is, the Joe does 
> everything I need.  Makes me smile, makes other people ask questions and 
> want to ride themselves, hauls groceries, can handle trail or road, fits in 
> whether fancy or rough  
>
> Anyway, I guess I would like to see more facts to back up the 
> impressions... The truth may not set us free but it surely can help.
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

This is what it cost me to put together the bike

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-RvK1zoJmS_Ir0ATOa7B-KluwuTqN3f5eYsa1kBQIvU/edit?usp=sharing




On Friday, 21 July 2017 15:56:29 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Sorry, missed the price.
>
> Without saddle, wheels and tires:  $1650 (I will pick up half the shipping)
> Add $450 for wheels + tires.
>
> I have 3 sets of tires.  You can pick any
>
> WTB 650Bx47
> Pasela 650Bx1.75
> Schwalbe Almotions 650bx2.00
>
> Also, you have choice between ChocoNORM and Albatross.
>
> Thanks to folks who alerted me about the missing price.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Ash
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:09:19 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>>
>> Feels like I need a new project.  Likely Hunq this time.  
>>
>> The green Appaloosa (and all components) is in 'like new' condition. 
>>  About 300 miles.
>>
>> Available whole bike (minus saddle) or without wheels/tires.  PM me if 
>> you are interested.
>>
>> - Frame + headset + bottom bracket + seat post
>> - Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t 
>> - Nitto Choco-NORM Bar
>> - Origin8 Retro Classic Canti Brake Levers
>> - Microshit thumb shifters 9 speed
>> - Tektro CR710  Canti Brakes
>> - Shimano FD-M590 TopSwing Dual Pull Multi Clamp FD
>> - Shimano XT M772 Shadow 9-Speed RD
>> - Shimano M770 XT 9 Speed Cassette 11-34T
>> - Shimano Saint pedals
>> - Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0, 8cm
>> - SKS P50 fenders
>> - Rich-built wheel: Velocity Atlas 650B wheels, 36H + SP dynamo + Velo 
>> Orange Grand Cru Touring Hub 
>> - Pasela Protite 650Bx1.75 (LX-17PT2) tires
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Ash [who works to bike]]

Sorry, missed the price.

Without saddle, wheels and tires:  $1650 (I will pick up half the shipping)
Add $450 for wheels + tires.

I have 3 sets of tires.  You can pick any

WTB 650Bx47
Pasela 650Bx1.75
Schwalbe Almotions 650bx2.00

Also, you have choice between ChocoNORM and Albatross.

Thanks to folks who alerted me about the missing price.

Cheers,

-Ash




On Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:09:19 UTC-7, Ash [who works to bike] wrote:
>
> Feels like I need a new project.  Likely Hunq this time.  
>
> The green Appaloosa (and all components) is in 'like new' condition. 
>  About 300 miles.
>
> Available whole bike (minus saddle) or without wheels/tires.  PM me if you 
> are interested.
>
> - Frame + headset + bottom bracket + seat post
> - Sugino XD2 wide/low double Crank 40t x 26t 
> - Nitto Choco-NORM Bar
> - Origin8 Retro Classic Canti Brake Levers
> - Microshit thumb shifters 9 speed
> - Tektro CR710  Canti Brakes
> - Shimano FD-M590 TopSwing Dual Pull Multi Clamp FD
> - Shimano XT M772 Shadow 9-Speed RD
> - Shimano M770 XT 9 Speed Cassette 11-34T
> - Shimano Saint pedals
> - Nitto Dirt Drop 26.0, 8cm
> - SKS P50 fenders
> - Rich-built wheel: Velocity Atlas 650B wheels, 36H + SP dynamo + Velo 
> Orange Grand Cru Touring Hub 
> - Pasela Protite 650Bx1.75 (LX-17PT2) tires
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[John Hawrylak]

Apparently RBW has bought up all the Phil F/W hubs, newsletter link below

http://mailchi.mp/rivbike/newsletter-nz6t1m9ada?e=dac36dd191

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


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[RBW] Re: Let's hear it for the blue Hubbuhubbuhs

[John Hawrylak]

Ray

The Orange cable housing and water bottle cages really look striking 
against the Blue

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Belopsky]

Do we have mods? Delete this if no price.

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[RBW] Re: 1.5 x N+1

[Jay Connolly]

Yes, height has its curses when it comes to bicycles. For years I have ridden 
bikes with long top tubes (Surlys before Rivs). My first "modern" bike was a 
Trek 520. I knew nothing about sizing and geometry when I bought it. Turned out 
the sale an sold me a 60 when I needed the next size up. I could not stand on 
the bike to climb because a) I'd bang my knees on the barcons, and b) it was 
difficult to get my weight sufficiently forward on a too-small frame. I like a 
spacious frame. At this point, I don't mind paying for what I like, but I don't 
want to create too much redundancy, either. I like my bikes to have distinct 
ride characteristics, not subtle ones. Huge difference between my Joe and my 
Sam, for instance, despite the fact that they could be make to ride quite 
similarly. One of those could go to the cottage. I wouldn't mind building up a 
drop-bar mountain rig along the lines of a Fargo. I'm in no rush to do this, 
though, and I'll be interested to see what Riv comes out with in the next year 
or so.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[Orc]

The big problem with the magniclight is that the lamp is integrated with 
the generator so you're stuck with the crappy lamp unless you're willing to 
hand-modify the thing.

I suspect you could drive an IQ-X off one of those things (I regularly run 
an IQ-X + taillight off a Shimano 1n70) though it might take longer to 
charge the standlight circuit and get ignition.

-david parsons

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 11:07:57 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Lum:
>
> Regarding your question about alternative lighting systems—I’ve been using 
> Magnic Lights for several years now, both their first and second 
> generations (https://www.magniclight.com/en/) The lights stay on the bike 
> and serve as daytime running lights. I know they use some of my effort to 
> generate light, but I can honestly say that you can’t feel any drag. None.
>
> The lights work well, and the second generation works much better than the 
> first. I’ve used them successfully for nighttime riding, always with a 
> helmet-mounted headlight. If you need super-bright lights they are probably 
> not the best choice, but out in the country and away from streetlights they 
> are plenty bright for me. YMMV
>
> The taillights (and especially the second generation) are very bright. The 
> newer model also adds several modes (flashing vs steady, etc.) and acts as 
> a brake light, blinking when you slow down.
>
> I have had zero problems with mine.
>
> The least desirable part of the system for me is the way the front lights 
> mount. Because they have to be close to the rim, they don’t clear wide 
> tires (wider than about 28C) very easily. Magnic Light’s nicest mount runs 
> close to the wheel and won’t work with tires wider than 28C. 
>
> Contact me offline if you’re interested in more info. You can also use 
> Google to find a number of online reviews.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:50 AM, lum gim fong  > wrote:
>
> *I am thinking of buying a new dyno  wheel and getting another headlight 
> and was wondering if anyone knows what the best dyno hubs and lights 
> currently are.*
>
> By best, I mean:
>
> 1. Least drag
> 2. More than 90 lux with smoothest, widest, uniform near and far field of 
> light. No hot spots, or multiple fields.
> 3. furthest/widest beam cast. Has anyone thought to put lenses in the side 
> for cornering light?
> 4. protected from elements well. Like glass lens, and water compensating 
> atmospheric pressure thingy like SONdelux has in their hubs to keep 
> moisture out.
> 5. Height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming traffic.
>
>
> Last I heard, seemed like people were saying that:
>
> *Hubs:*
>
> SON28 or delux widebody and Shutter Precision PV-8 are best hubs, 
> depending on your charging needs. It is contested who has the least drag. 
> Depends on who is talking, who's chart you are looking at. SON has that 
> water pressure protection thingy in the hub so that is better protection 
> from elements than the SP's have, unless they have something newer that now 
> has this technology.
>
> *Lights:*
>
> B IQX, can hang upright or hang upside down easily. 
> Smoothest/furthest/widest/uniformest/brightest light beam.
> edeluxII  second place?
>
> *2. I was also wondering if there is a new dragless, battery-less, 
> technology for lighting that antiquates dyno lighting/hubs at this point 
> altogether. Especially something that cannot loosen and fall into spokes.*
>
> *3. Are things still the same in the lighting market, or has something 
> newer that is better for a hub/light bundle come out?*
>
>
> Thanks for the info.
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Joe Bernard]

Is this bike ever going to get a price?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Richard Rios]

I've noticed Appas poping up to...might just be that the model is so new it's 
kinda striking to see um for sale so soon...Atlantis, Sam, Hilsen, have all 
been around for quite some time, to me it I guess I expect to see them pop up 
given the supply out there and that owners have prolly had a chance to have 
them around for a while...

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[RBW] Re: Price drop and polite bump - fixed cog and tires

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Tires are gone too.
Just the cog left. Anyone?

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 9:31:02 AM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> Bag and rack have been claimed.
> Lower prices below for what's left. 
> Paypal new to me or F would be most appreciated. Their 5.5% cut is 
> outrageous. 
>
> Jay
>
> The following items are offered for your kind consideration. All prices 
> include shipping:
>
>
> Carradice Super C saddle bag - well used and well loved, 2 small holes 
> visible in pictures below which I hadn't noticed until now, $55
>
> https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-super-c-saddlebag-black-23-litre/
>
>
> Carradice Classic Saddlebag Rack -
> Works very well with the above bag providing both support and quick 
> release, $30 
> https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-classic-saddlebag-rack/
>
>
> Special offer - bag and rack together $75 
>
>
> White Industries 16 tooth fixed gear cog - $32, near new condition, used 
> for 120 miles. I think this will only work with WI hubs. Generic lock ring 
> free with purchase of cog. 
> http://www.bikeman.com/WIND-18COG16.html
>
> *REDUCED TO $25 SHIPPED *
>
>
> Victoria 37-622 Hypers - 1 NIB $40, 3 used 1 season with plenty of tread 
> left $15 each, all 4 tires for $70. These are light,fast tires with very 
> good flat protection. Selling in favor of Compass tires waiting for me in 
> New Hampshire. Full disclosure - I lost traction and fell on these 2 weeks 
> ago cornering too fast. As far as I'm concerned it was my fault in a fit of 
> overconfidence caused by finally getting the hang of riding fixed. Details 
> on my earlier post titled Road Rash.
> http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/vittoria-voyager-hyper-folding-tyre
>
> *REDUCED TO $30 FOR 1, $40 FOR 2, $50 FOR 3, $55 FOR ALL 4*
> 
>
>
> I took pictures of everything but don't see how to post them, so please 
> ask.
>
>
> I will be visiting family in New Hampshire next week so whatever sells 
> will come with me and ship from 03253 on Thursday July 27th.
>
>
> Pricing on the used items is based on 50% of new plus shipping, which 
> seems fair. I'm open to reasonable offers.
>
>
> Riv content - all used items have been on my Sam. Proceeds are going to 
> offset the cost of a new medium sackville saddlebag.
>
> Jay
>

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

I'm very happily using the SP PV8 and IQ-X It's my 1st try at dynamo lighting 
so I don't have anything to compare it to. Works great for my year round pretty 
urban commute. Probably more than I need actually. Suppose you can't have too 
much light. 

Jay 

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[lum gim fong]

Thanks for the info Eric. You like them better than using your IQX? They sound 
excellent. 

But alas, after crashes and injury due to 28mm and narrower tires getting hung 
up in sidewalk/pavement liips/cracks. I don't like riding anything narrower 
than 38mm wide tires.

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Re: [RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[Eric Norris]

Lum:

Regarding your question about alternative lighting systems—I’ve been using 
Magnic Lights for several years now, both their first and second generations 
(https://www.magniclight.com/en/ ) The lights 
stay on the bike and serve as daytime running lights. I know they use some of 
my effort to generate light, but I can honestly say that you can’t feel any 
drag. None.

The lights work well, and the second generation works much better than the 
first. I’ve used them successfully for nighttime riding, always with a 
helmet-mounted headlight. If you need super-bright lights they are probably not 
the best choice, but out in the country and away from streetlights they are 
plenty bright for me. YMMV

The taillights (and especially the second generation) are very bright. The 
newer model also adds several modes (flashing vs steady, etc.) and acts as a 
brake light, blinking when you slow down.

I have had zero problems with mine.

The least desirable part of the system for me is the way the front lights 
mount. Because they have to be close to the rim, they don’t clear wide tires 
(wider than about 28C) very easily. Magnic Light’s nicest mount runs close to 
the wheel and won’t work with tires wider than 28C. 

Contact me offline if you’re interested in more info. You can also use Google 
to find a number of online reviews.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 10:50 AM, lum gim fong  wrote:
> 
> I am thinking of buying a new dyno  wheel and getting another headlight and 
> was wondering if anyone knows what the best dyno hubs and lights currently 
> are.
> 
> By best, I mean:
> 
> 1. Least drag
> 2. More than 90 lux with smoothest, widest, uniform near and far field of 
> light. No hot spots, or multiple fields.
> 3. furthest/widest beam cast. Has anyone thought to put lenses in the side 
> for cornering light?
> 4. protected from elements well. Like glass lens, and water compensating 
> atmospheric pressure thingy like SONdelux has in their hubs to keep moisture 
> out.
> 5. Height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming traffic.
> 
> 
> Last I heard, seemed like people were saying that:
> 
> Hubs:
> 
> SON28 or delux widebody and Shutter Precision PV-8 are best hubs, depending 
> on your charging needs. It is contested who has the least drag. Depends on 
> who is talking, who's chart you are looking at. SON has that water pressure 
> protection thingy in the hub so that is better protection from elements than 
> the SP's have, unless they have something newer that now has this technology.
> 
> Lights:
> 
> B IQX, can hang upright or hang upside down easily. 
> Smoothest/furthest/widest/uniformest/brightest light beam.
> edeluxII  second place?
> 
> 2. I was also wondering if there is a new dragless, battery-less, technology 
> for lighting that antiquates dyno lighting/hubs at this point altogether. 
> Especially something that cannot loosen and fall into spokes.
> 
> 3. Are things still the same in the lighting market, or has something newer 
> that is better for a hub/light bundle come out?
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.
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[RBW] 2017 latest dynamo/lights that are best in the world?

[lum gim fong]

*I am thinking of buying a new dyno  wheel and getting another headlight 
and was wondering if anyone knows what the best dyno hubs and lights 
currently are.*

By best, I mean:

1. Least drag
2. More than 90 lux with smoothest, widest, uniform near and far field of 
light. No hot spots, or multiple fields.
3. furthest/widest beam cast. Has anyone thought to put lenses in the side 
for cornering light?
4. protected from elements well. Like glass lens, and water compensating 
atmospheric pressure thingy like SONdelux has in their hubs to keep 
moisture out.
5. Height cutoff so as not to blind oncoming traffic.


Last I heard, seemed like people were saying that:

*Hubs:*

SON28 or delux widebody and Shutter Precision PV-8 are best hubs, depending 
on your charging needs. It is contested who has the least drag. Depends on 
who is talking, who's chart you are looking at. SON has that water pressure 
protection thingy in the hub so that is better protection from elements 
than the SP's have, unless they have something newer that now has this 
technology.

*Lights:*

B IQX, can hang upright or hang upside down easily. 
Smoothest/furthest/widest/uniformest/brightest light beam.
edeluxII  second place?

*2. I was also wondering if there is a new dragless, battery-less, 
technology for lighting that antiquates dyno lighting/hubs at this point 
altogether. Especially something that cannot loosen and fall into spokes.*

*3. Are things still the same in the lighting market, or has something 
newer that is better for a hub/light bundle come out?*


Thanks for the info.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Davey Two Shoes]

Eh, I'm new in town. Where is the bar? 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Bob Lovejoy]

Hh... I looked back through FS posts on this forum, nothing scientific, 
nothing formal, but I see a wide variety of bikes for sale, more Sam's, a 
few Homer's, but there are Atlantis, Cheviot's, Clem's, Betty Foy's, a Riv 
Road, a Roscoe, other non-Riv bikes.

I know there was at least one person who had miscalculated a bit on using 
drop bars (on the Joe) and there have been times of financial or other 
need.  That said, I am pretty sure the Joe's do not come for sale any more 
often than other bikes, at least not on this forum.  I think there have 
been re-posts and bumps of specific bikes for sale and maybe that makes it 
seem so.

Anyway, there are many reasons to sell a bike... Many of us are 
experimenters, try'ers of things and, at times, keeping that going 
sometimes demands the letting go of other bikes.  Also, sometimes the bike 
that might bring the most $$ return is the one that needs to go, based on 
circumstances, etc.  Though it is not true at the moment for me, there have 
been times when I realized the bike I rode the most was actually one of the 
least valuable (to others) just because of locking bikes up or otherwise 
putting bikes at risk.

I will say that my Joe A., for me, right now, with my current needs and how 
I ride, it is hard to imagine a more useful, fun, adaptable bike.  With my 
set-up (Bullmoose bars) I wish it was a little less wide (and am working on 
that), but it fits me perfectly and brings a smile every time I ride it.  I 
have other bikes that might do specific things better, but none of my other 
bikes can seem to do what the Joe can do.  There have been a few times when 
I wish it were not so, as I am indeed the experimenter, and $$ are tied up 
in the Joe and the Cheviot.  But there it is, the Joe does everything I 
need.  Makes me smile, makes other people ask questions and want to ride 
themselves, hauls groceries, can handle trail or road, fits in whether 
fancy or rough  

Anyway, I guess I would like to see more facts to back up the 
impressions... The truth may not set us free but it surely can help.

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[REC]

I thought it was just a few that were being sold.  I love my Joe A.  It's 
my first Riv. 

On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 11:11:40 AM UTC-4, Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>
> It IS odd how many Joes have come up for sale.
>
> Clem FTW!! lol
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[RBW] Re: 1.5 x N+1

[Austin B]

Definitely got the enthusiasm but I guess I downplayed the tongue-in-cheek 
humor in it. 

Great that your wife is supportive--being 6'5" tall (I'm 6'3") a new bike 
purchase isn't necessarily solved by trolling Craigslist for something 
cheap to build up since we generally play at or beyond the fringes of the 
bicycle size curves. It either means waiting a long time for something used 
to come up, or buying something new that is the right size (e.g. $1300 Riv 
frames).

Happy shopping!

Austin

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Davey Two Shoes]

It IS odd how many Joes have come up for sale.

Clem FTW!! lol

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[RBW] FS: 27.2 thomson silver seatpost

[Conway Bennett]

I'm mobile so can't PM but I'm interested.  Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] FS: 27.2 thomson silver seatpost

[Singlespeed Johnny]

thomson elite
the tall one
zero setback 
$60 

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Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[ascpgh]

+1 on Ron's take on Suntour RDs. I have several in my "on deck" drawer of 
the toolbox. Just can't do better for the price. They simply shed wear 
unless subjected to truly terrible conditions or physical maladies. 

Shameless "WTB/Crowdsourcing"  plug: I'm on an odyssey for a *Mavic 845 
rear derailleur*. In the meantime I have had a Suntour XC Pro mid-cage on 
my Rambouillet, operated by Power Ratchet bar-end shifters in friction mode 
on a Shimano 8-speed cassette. I am also a fan of Suntour front derailleurs 
of both the shaped and flat plate cages. The X-1 FD is a great, 
cost-effective unit for 110mm BCD doubles (wide or typical) and triples. I 
have one that has been in constant daily use on my series of commuters 
since 2007. 

Feel free to contact me with details of any long cage Mavic rear 
derailleurs you may have laying around. We can discuss family treasure, 
filthy lucre, or other rare parts swaps.  

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 8:27:38 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> IMO, SunTour are the best RD and Shimano the best FD, they can still be 
> found with realistic prices, sometimes even NOS.  .  
> So I'll show my favorite drivetrains, which everyone else has seen.  
> '74 Raleigh International
>
>   
>
> Cyclone GT RD, 12-30t SunTour Winner 7; Shimano 600EX FD, Sun XCD crank 
> arms with TA rings, 46/32/26T half-steps plus granny.  The RD chain wrap 
> and FD cage clear everything except the 26T/12t combination, which isn't 
> needed.  
>
> *Here's the gear chart 
> *
>
>
> More recent 3x5 on a '57 Raleigh Lenton GP
>
>   
>
> RD is SunTour VGT, IRD 13-28t 5sp freewheel; Sun XCD arms with TA 
> 47/42/26T half-steps plus granny.  *Here's that gear chart 
> *.
>  
>  Every gear combination works with complete coverage and clearance, and is 
> useful.  
>
> The FD is 1st Cyclone, which I used because I could attach the Simplex 
> chain guard by replacing the band clamp bolt with a computer board 
> standoff, along with the stock Simplex hardware.  
>
> Both bikes have Phil freewheel hubs, the International 126mm OLD, and the 
> Lenton is special with custom Phil hubs at 115mm OLD with 8mm axles.  
>
> You can get 5/6/7 cassette hubs and Shimano cassettes for them from *Grand 
> Bois * and 
> Compass
>
> A modern long-cage RD I can strongly recommend is Microshift R10.  
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2017 Appaloosa 51cm green

[Philip Kim]

for me it was financial reasons i had to cut the appaloosa. it was either 
the custom or appaloosa, and I figure when things have settles, an 
appaloosa will still be there, my custom will not.

On Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 9:18:15 PM UTC-4, Singlespeed Johnny wrote:
>
> a lot of people see to be getting rid of their appaloosas.  wonder why?

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[RBW] Re: Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

[Philip Kim]

I have SUNXCD rear derailleur, shifts to 34t. Silver and nice and 
lightweight. A bit pricey, I think microshift also makes a good rear 
derialleur as well.

One of the best purchases I've made is the Rene Herse crank sold by 
Compass. Expensive, but durable and light!

On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 5:47:48 PM UTC-4, Lesli Larson wrote:
>
> It's been awhile since I sourced parts for a new bike. I haven't done this 
> since I ordered my custom Riv ages ago.
>
> Use: randonneuring
>
> Question: what's the current wisdom regarding classic long cage 
> derailleurs, front derailleurs, rear hubs (freewheel or cassette), 
> seatposts and shifts?
>
> Have things gotten crazy expensive or is vintage still a viable 
> alternative to new stuff.
>
> I'm sorry I missed out on the Riv Phil hub (what I have on my older road 
> bike). 
>
> I already have Mafac racers, a TA crank, and a set of Campy brake levers 
> in hand.
>
> I'm a female with smallish hands and shortish stature. I'm going to set 
> the bike up as a compact double with either bar-ends or downtube shifters.
>
> Wondering whether folks recommend in the way of classic, duable, stylish, 
> lightweight parts? New or old.
>
>
> Let me know if you have anything for sale that might match my shopping 
> list!
>
> Regards,
>
> Lesli Larson
> Eugene, OR
>

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[RBW] Re: 1.5 x N+1

[Jay Connolly]

The fuss is really just an opportunity to express enthusiasm for bicycles. My 
wife has always supported my interest in bikes. There's no problem at all. 

Jay

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[RBW] Price drop and polite bump - fixed cog and tires

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Bag and rack have been claimed.
Lower prices below for what's left. 
Paypal new to me or F would be most appreciated. Their 5.5% cut is 
outrageous. 

Jay

The following items are offered for your kind consideration. All prices 
include shipping:


Carradice Super C saddle bag - well used and well loved, 2 small holes 
visible in pictures below which I hadn't noticed until now, $55
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-super-c-saddlebag-black-23-litre/


Carradice Classic Saddlebag Rack -
Works very well with the above bag providing both support and quick 
release, $30 
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/carradice-classic-saddlebag-rack/


Special offer - bag and rack together $75 


White Industries 16 tooth fixed gear cog - $32, near new condition, used 
for 120 miles. I think this will only work with WI hubs. Generic lock ring 
free with purchase of cog. 
http://www.bikeman.com/WIND-18COG16.html

*REDUCED TO $25 SHIPPED *


Victoria 37-622 Hypers - 1 NIB $40, 3 used 1 season with plenty of tread 
left $15 each, all 4 tires for $70. These are light,fast tires with very 
good flat protection. Selling in favor of Compass tires waiting for me in 
New Hampshire. Full disclosure - I lost traction and fell on these 2 weeks 
ago cornering too fast. As far as I'm concerned it was my fault in a fit of 
overconfidence caused by finally getting the hang of riding fixed. Details 
on my earlier post titled Road Rash.
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYVIVOHY/vittoria-voyager-hyper-folding-tyre

*REDUCED TO $30 FOR 1, $40 FOR 2, $50 FOR 3, $55 FOR ALL 4*



I took pictures of everything but don't see how to post them, so please ask.


I will be visiting family in New Hampshire next week so whatever sells will 
come with me and ship from 03253 on Thursday July 27th.


Pricing on the used items is based on 50% of new plus shipping, which seems 
fair. I'm open to reasonable offers.


Riv content - all used items have been on my Sam. Proceeds are going to 
offset the cost of a new medium sackville saddlebag.

Jay

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