Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Roberta: I am no decorator for sure, but this bike is 🤩 and makes it easy! Who 
would ever think a Clem would give a Betty any trouble in a beauty contest, but 
here we are. 🤪

Joe, agree that black fenders weren’t right. They would have given the bike a 
polished look, I’m sure, but when someone said the paint chips off I knew I 
wanted silver. I only want to have fenders mounted once!

Forearms - I noticed because I was looking at them hopefully, knowing he was 
gonna have to manhandle the mashed fenders! 

Also, I forgot to mention I installed a 50 mm stem (yes, me!) to bring those 
bars closer than the 90 was able. The weather has been stormy in our desert so 
I really haven’t gotten to test out the feel. But it has to be right because 
I’m out of options.

Abcyclehank and I are in the midst of a grip swap; he’s sending his brown/black 
Ergons and I’m sending him my black ones. Then we’ll have some harmony with 
that Select saddle, I hope. I tried the royal B17 but it wasn’t quite right. 
Still may swap it for a different color. 

But so happy with the bike’s look now. Can’t wait to ride it tot he boys’ 
school next week. Hope the weather clears up.

Thanks for making this so fun!

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Joe Bernard]

It really is lovely, and LBS Guy - heretofore known as Forearms - did a great 
mounting job. I believe somewhere in this thread I vouched for black fenders 
and I was oh so wrong..the shiney silver is smashing! 

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[RBW] Karoo Hammerhead

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wonder if anybody on this list is using the Karoo Hammerhead. They have a Black 
Friday sale going on, and I wonder what the experience of using the device is 
like.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Curtis McKenzie]

Clemtastic!

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 7:30 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
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> Thank you! Lights are battery-operated string lights. Rechargeable.
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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Thank you! Lights are battery-operated string lights. Rechargeable. 

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[masmojo]

Lovely!

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[JAS]

Leah, 
Pure class, as always!  I love the Christmas lights and your perseverance on 
your fender journey. Way to go!  The wavy fenders match your bike perfectly. 
How are you powering your lights?

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Roberta]

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 9:16:27 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
> Second set: Christmas Clem. What a looker.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I’ve had my 2019 blue Clem L for a few weeks now, but it’s taken me awhile to 
> get it set up for me. It’s still very much a work in progress, but it’s 
> really turning out to be a spectacular bicycle. As I discussed in a previous 
> post A Tale of Two Clems, this new Clem is quite different than my 2015 
> Clementine. The Clementine fit me like a glove with zero need for 
> adjustments. The new Clem is much longer, which changed a lot for me. I 
> needed a shorter stem (went from a 12 to a 9...or something), and even so, 
> I’m probably going to scoot my Brooks a bit forward because I *still* want 
> the grips closer to me. I’m 5’6” with an 83 cm PBH, but I wonder if the 45 
> would have fit me like my old Clementine does. 
> 
> 
> The Clem also boasts the fancy seat lug I adore, cream fills in the lugwork, 
> slimmer, lithe-looking tubes and a gorgeous metallic blue paint that no 
> camera can capture. The bike just begs for blue and more blue, and I’ve 
> answered it. I’ve come to think of it as the 50 Shades of Blue Bike. 
> 
> 
> I got it back from the shop yesterday. It has the new stem, a Nitto Basket 
> Rack, the Big Bens stolen from the Clementine, and was supposed to have the 
> Clementine’s fenders. The mechanic got the message mixed up and didn’t 
> install them, so the Clem is fenderless for now. The same day my Randi Jo bag 
> arrived, so I added that (the patch was a gift from our Roberta and a perfect 
> accessory to the bag) and put all my Sackville on the Clem. This bike is now 
> FORMIDABLE. What can it not do for me now?
> 
> 
> I took it out for an hour last night and laughed in the dark for most of the 
> ride. It is so much FUN. The Clem glides along, confident and strong. It 
> feels masculine, like its whisking me away somewhere, and I feel like I’m in 
> good hands. This is huge for me. I do a lot of hand-wringing when I get a new 
> bike, or even a new bike PART (I cried when I wore out my first set of tires 
> on the Betty and had to get new ones). I wonder if I’ve made a mistake. I 
> have visions of the bike falling apart underneath me as I ride down the 
> mountain on our school route. I rode the Betty exclusively for nearly 7 years 
> and it never let me down, so the Clem has a lot of live up to. So far, so 
> good.
> 
> 
> I took it to the boys’ school today loaded with: 2 U-locks, a lunchbox, a 
> laptop, a violin, a clarinet and my small personal effects. No sweat! The 
> bike shifts effortlessly, climbs just great and doesn’t complain about the 
> weight it carries. 
> 
> 
> I’m still figuring out what grips I want (these black Ergon grips are nice, 
> but I need brown) and what fenders to get. The SKS on the Clementine are fat 
> and floppy looking, and the mechanic says the measurements are nearly the 
> same for the new bike. Meaning, the fenders are going to look just as sloppy 
> on the Clem, so he didn’t install them. I’ve got the Big Ben tires; does 
> anyone have a suggestion for good fenders (not metal) that will be a nicer 
> fit? I love how well the SKS fit and look on my Betty. 
> 
> 
> Below are photos from yesterday. You can see the new bike along with the 
> other 2 I currently have. I’m really more of a 2 bike person, so I’ll likely 
> be selling the Clementine soon. I also made a fun 1 minute video of my 
> “shakedown ride” last night but I’m not sure you can view it on this 
> platform. Knowing that it’s goofy and not at all academic, PM me if you want 
> to view it anyway and I’ll send it to you. Or, find me on Instagram. It’s a 
> regular party over there!
> 
> 
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I think Christmas at the BBDD house has officially begun!  Your bike looks 
mah-velous!  You say you aren’t  a decorator, but you have a excellent eye for 
quality and beauty.   Betty Foy might get jealous. 

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Joe Bernard]

SO. MUCH. CLASS!

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[RBW] FS:Bags/Boots/Free Bike- filson, redwing, patagonia, nitto, danner, chaco, topo, etc.

[Drw]

Updates and some $ drops


Gregory baltoro 65L backpack- Good/great shape. bought circa 2015. used on a 
couple short trips/year since then. very good condition. 65$+ shipping

Patagonia Torrentshell rain jacket. Size small but fits like a medium. very 
good condition 50$ shipped 

Danner Light. size 10.  essentially new/worn once. never hiked in. retail for 
380$. 180$+shipping

Chacos. Black, borderline unworn shape. vibram sole MUSA version, size 10. 
55$+shipping

Jandd hip/fanny pack. Leather patch, i think this is their small version. 2 
pockets. 15$ shipped

Velo Orange Phone/camera pocket thing. I put a grommet in the bottom to let 
water out or power cords in and then I never used it.straps to a basket or 
other things. 15$ shipped

Nitto technomic stem. 25.4/11cm chopped down about an inch. Decent shape. 10$ + 
shipping

Dia Compe long pull drop bar levers. For v brakes. As far as I know there are 
only 2 models of drop v levers and these are far superior to the tektros. 
Basically new. Gum hoods. 40$ shipped

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quick introduction and Clem parts questions

[Andrew Huston]

Bob, I sent you a PM regarding the wheels if they aren’t needed by the OP. 

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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Matt C.]

I would love to know the answer to this as well before ordering a pair. As far 
as I know dynasis requires about 1.1 mm more pull per shift than Shimano road. 
I like 10 speed friction for road, so it would be nice to find something that 
allows for this amount of travel to use for more off road derailleurs. If 
someone calls Riv and asks, let the rest of us know! Thanks.

Matt Cook in CT 

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder on ebay

[Jason Fuller]

Ug it's the perfect size for me, and it's basically my ideal 
commuter bike.  But I am nowhere near done paying off the Hillborne I 
bought only a month ago! 

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[RBW] Re: FS 61 Roadeo F/F/HS

[JohnS]

Sold to a list member. Hopefully they will share their experiences with the 
Roadeo!

JohnS

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 9:11:23 PM UTC-5, JohnS wrote:
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>
>
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 at 9:06:53 PM UTC-5, JohnS wrote:
>>
>> I'm selling my 61 (center to top) Roadeo frame, fork and Crane Creek 
>> headset, asking $1200 plus shipping. It's a beautiful bike in great shape, 
>> alas it's on the small size for me. I should have a 63. So my lose is your 
>> gain. There are a some chips in the paint which should be touched up, 
>> otherwise the paint sparkles, looks like metal flake root beer to me with 
>> cream accents. No dents or other damage. Gets a lot of attention and 
>> compliments on group rides. I'm in Allentown PA if you happen to be in the 
>> region and want to take a look at it. I purchased the bike in the summer of 
>> 2018 from a list member, I really don't know much about it, I didn't think 
>> to ask at the time. So I don't know how old it is.  Please reply directly 
>> to me if you are interested. Makes a great Christmas present! 
>>
>>
>> Thanks for looking,
>> JohnS
>>
>> [image: WIN_20191126_20_14_09_Pro.jpg]
>> [image: WIN_20191126_20_29_57_Pro.jpg]
>> [image: WIN_20191126_20_16_07_Pro.jpg]
>> [image: WIN_20191126_20_14_30_Pro.jpg]
>> [image: WIN_20180722_15_04_29_Pro.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Another Cork Grip Idea -- And A Devo Flashback :)

[tc]

Thought I'd share a slightly customized cork grip idea that, so far, works 
well.

First, thanks to Luis Garcia (making longer cork grips) for the reminder 
about the Dan Stroud video (Albatross bar more useful if brake levers moved 
far forward).

I used grooved, constant diameter Meisha's cork grips for bar-end shifters, 
plus a small section I sawed off of another pair of flared cork grips using 
a mitre box and hack saw with a fine blade.  After installing the brake 
levers as far forward as I could before the curve of the bar, I slipped the 
small flared grip section on first, with the bigger flare end facing the 
front to act as a hand stop.  I was careful to saw the rear (smaller) end 
of the small section at a point where its diameter matched that of the main 
(Meisha's) grip.  Also, I cut this section a little long so that I could 
use various sandpaper grits to hone the end flat and smooth.  Even so, 
there was a tiny gap, so I did a single wrap of twine in the tiny gap to 
act as chinking, which adds a very small but cool detail I think.

[image: 2-piece_cork.jpg]


This time I remembered to rotate each bar-end shifter so that the levers 
flare outward a bit to better align with the natural position of my 
arms/wrists/hands when I'm riding.  Of course this requires that you play 
around with the angle and twist the grips so that the groove is more 
outward ... before the grip adhesive dries.

Lastly, some of you probably know that the handlebar twine wrapping 
technique that Riv advocates is known as a form of "whipping", as in 
whipping the end of a rope so the ends don't fray.  This time I remembered 
to whip my grips with the knot on the inside of the grip (unlike the Riv 
demo video) so that the small knot/bump is not on the outside of the grip, 
and is in a spot that doesn't rub anywhere.  As I was looking around for 
different whipping techniques, I came across these 2 videos demonstrating 
whipping used as an accent in fine furniture building, as well as the more 
typical use as a means to bind rope ends ... thought you'd enjoy:

Riv video:  Cork Grips Installation 

Fine Woodworking:  How to Wrap and Handle with Cord with Mike Pekovich 
 

WhyKnot:  How to Whip The End of a Rope - Common Whipping Knot 


That's it!  And now, in the immortal words of *Devo*, go forth and  "Whip 
it.  Whip it good ." (sorry.)

Tom


  

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[RBW] Re: Did anyone notice the Rivendell reference in The Irishman?

[Mike Godwin]

I was thinking the old butcher shop, Larwences Meats when I heard the line.  In 
the "Crick" and Alamo. They would dress game, was around for decades.

Mike SLO CA

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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Joe Bernard]

"...isn't one of the key advantages of friction shifters the ability to work 
with all derailleurs?"

That was one back in the day, yes, but it doesn't really apply now in a world 
of varying versions of 10, 11, and 12-speed systems. The continued primary 
advantage of Power Ratchet friction shifters is they're great. I'm going to 
ditch my 9-speed indexer for a Silver2 on my eClem L because it works better. 

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Re: [RBW] Fenders for train commute

[Patrick Moore]

I've used all sorts of fenders, from Blumel to Zefal, even though I live in
a high desert region. I've dented metal fenders, Berthouds, Honjos, and VOs
-- the 2 pairs of VOs I've owned seemed to be made of slightly thinner
gauge aluminum, but I emphasize "seemed". Planet Bike and SKS fenders don't
dent. The downside is that their stay system is (IMO) far inferior to that
for the metal fenders. Me, if I were to choose fenders purely for
resistance to damage, I'd install PBs or SKSs and rig up a Honjo (etc.)
type of stay system.

Suggestion: Install PB or SKS fenders, but order 2 pairs of extra-thick
gauge stays (Honjo type) and "R" clips from Kelpie, and adapt the plastic
fenders to fit them; far stiffer than even Honjo and Berthoud stays.

I'd have chosen plastic fenders for my Matthews if I could have found some
big enough. As it is, I ordered aluminums from Kelpie, which are 2X the
gauge, I think, of the usual metal makes, and come with the extra thick
stays I mentioned. I daresay you can dent Kelpies, but it would be harder
to do so.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 9:08 PM Eric G  wrote:

> The rainy season has started in SF and I am considering putting fenders on
> my Sam. I commute daily on the Caltrain where people stack their bikes side
> by side. Generally folks are not very considerate about how they place
> their bikes. Would fenders be easily broken or damaged in transit? Anyone
> have experience with this? Would certain brands be sturdier than others?
>
> Thanks!
> Eric G@rs
> SF
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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto R10

[Tim Bantham]

PM Sent

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 2:23:01 PM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> I've had this R10 sitting around for a while and never put much use to it. 
> Prefer full racks. Time to move it along for you saddlebag only guys. $50 
> shipped w/ P-clamps.
>
> [image: R10.JPG]
>
> Craig in Tucson
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[RBW] FS Nitto R10

[Craig Montgomery]

I've had this R10 sitting around for a while and never put much use to it. 
Prefer full racks. Time to move it along for you saddlebag only guys. $50 
shipped w/ P-clamps.

[image: R10.JPG]

Craig in Tucson

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[RBW] ISO/WTB 26 Dynamo Wheel

[Jacob Gosschalk]

Hey fellow Riv folks,

I'm looking for a 26 dynamo wheel for my Atlantis.

If  you have one you're willing to part with send it my way.

Hope ya'll all had a great Thanksgiving, and thanks to all that keep this 
group up and going!

Much appreciated,

Jake Gosschalk

San Antonio,Tejas

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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Joe Bernard]

Like I said, I think the shifter is designed for the derailers Grant/Riv knows 
and sells. The Deore and Deore XT non-Dyna mechs will work with 10-speed 
cassettes and Shimano 10 bar-ends and brifters, and the latter can be replaced 
with Silver2. I don't work there and can't give an official pronouncement, but 
I would think the longer pull of Dyna-Sys would be incompatible. 

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[RBW] Re: Happy Retirement Bob!

[RichS]

Jock,

If you’re on your Paramount the next time we do a ride, I’m
going to have a hard time keeping up with you. My “heavy”
Rivs are no match for your sleek and gorgeous racer:-)))

A beautiful Georgia weekend to ride!
Rich in ATL

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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 11:08:57 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It doesn't say it on the Rivbike.com listing, but the Instagram post said 
> "works with 10, better with 9", and this is undoubtedly related to the 
> normal derailers they sell. I don't know anything about Dyna-Sys but if 
> that mech expects a longer throw at the shifter then it's no go.


"Works with 10, better with 9" is a bit ambiguous, because Shimano's 
10-speed road component requirements are different from 10-speed mountain 
component requirements. The 10-speed mountain components are Dyna-Sys, and 
require longer cable pull, but they offer useful functions like clutches to 
mitigate chain slap. This can be useful for the kind of mixed-terrain 
routes that Rivendell is known for (before mixed-terrain or gravel became a 
thing).

Being Dyna-Sys compatible is also good for application flexibility, as 
users don't have to be concerned about whether a particular rear derailleur 
will work with this friction shifter; isn't one of the key advantages of 
friction shifters the ability to work with all derailleurs?

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Re: [RBW] New V Brakes From Grant?

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 6:07:23 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> The email did lay out two key features:
>
> - taller arms, to clear maybe fenders over big tires
>
 
Shouldn't taller arms increase cable pull requirements? It'll feel more 
powerful with the same lever, compared to the shorter armed ones for sure. 
Personally, I prefer the 1st generation Shimano V-brakes with their 
"parallel push" mechanism that mitigates the "brake pad dive" issue 
associated with cantilever and "simple V" brakes. The pivots loosening over 
time is an issue, so perhaps we can come up with a pivot-less design, based 
on compliant mechanisms .


- wider opening, to open clear for big tires.
>

As for wider opening, isn't this an artifact of the long brake pads usually 
associated with V-brakes? Why not just put so-called Cyclocross brake pads 
(road sized pads with V-brake type mounting hardware), or something like 
the Koolstop shortie pads 

 
they already carry? Richard Sachs commented about manually sawing off the 
"tail" of V-brake pads for his CX team bikes, to make the pads shorter and 
functionally similar to the Koolstop shortie pads, just for this purpose.

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[RBW] Re: Did anyone notice the Rivendell reference in The Irishman?

[spencer robinson]

Yeah, I caught that... had all the usual suspects in itwho is the blond 
guy, he was in Breaking Bad and something else..
 

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 8:12:35 PM UTC-5, Trenker wrote:
>
> Joe Pesci, as Russell Bufalino:
>
>  
>
> "There’s a pork store up in Northern California. Right around Walnut 
> Creek. You’re from up there ain’t you?
>
> Yeah. And you might even know the guy that runs it.
>
> Actually I’m lookin' for a little favor. For him...not for me. But if you 
> can get him a ticket, like to Australia...you know what I mean. You wanna 
> help him get down there?"
>
>  
>
> (I won't give away any spoilers, but "a ticket to Australia" does not 
> refer to an airline ticket in this context. Could "pork store" be a kind of 
> mob slang for "a shop that sells non-racing bicycles?")
>
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] New V Brakes From Grant?

[Eric Daume]

The email did lay out two key features:

- taller arms, to clear maybe fenders over big tires
- wider opening, to open clear for big tires.

Seems like a good direction.

Eric

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 9:01 PM PG <4thgearfl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is that what we are to infer from the latest email?
>
> Any time frame on their arrival?
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[RBW] Re: New V Brakes From Grant?

[Garth]

Yes, a new non Silver brand V-brake made for Riv. 


The only references are from the latest email and from the Oct. 9 Blahg 
which states : *We might get our own V-brake. It won't be a SILVER brand, 
but it'll address a few issues, tiny and medium, that current V-brakes 
don't seem to.*

Not one other word has been printed about it. You could call and ask Grant 
but he can't tell you a when for what is not. 



On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 9:01:44 PM UTC-5, PG wrote:

> Is that what we are to infer from the latest email?
>
> Any time frame on their arrival?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: briar tires

[Tom Horton]

Re briar tires as a brand name  suitable for hillibikes  the first model could 
be dubbed briar rabbits  with apologies to uncle remus

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 29, 2019, at 9:13 PM, JohnS  wrote:
> 
> Since you're talking tires. Has anyone tired the Schwalbe Marathon Almotion 
> in the 38c folding (500g)? Looks a lot like Little Big Ben's, but an nearly 
> twice the price. I suppose it has better flat protection than the LBB's. I 
> love the LBB's but they are not in stock, nor are do they hold up that well 
> against the broken glass in Baltimore alleys. 
> 
> Thanks,
> JohnS
> 
>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019 at 3:42:25 PM UTC-5, Tom Horton wrote:
>> some advice please. I'm outfitting an MIT atlantis 62 for riding forest 
>> roads and trails  where I live on the eastern shore of maryland. not real 
>> rough riding, though sandy in patches, BUT we have an eastern native 
>> species, greenbriar (smilax), which is not goathead level in its ability to 
>> flat tires, but still a tough customer.
>> 
>> I'd prefer to go the tough tire route vs slime or other sealant in the 
>> tubes. the schwalbe marathon plus is one way, but mighty heavy and not quite 
>> as wide as I'd prefer. schwalbe makes a smart sam with something called 
>> double defense, nylon/kevlar belt, that looks pretty good and I think their 
>> 2.25 inch would fit the atlantis without fenders.
>> 
>> anyone have experience with those tires, or others? and I often ride 
>> pavement to get to the trails.
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] reading orange seal dip stick question

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I never read the directions, but I use that stick as a valve stem reamer. I've 
found that dipsticking isn't very precise, especially with supple tires. 
Fortunately the keeping of perfect sealant level is an imprecise science, more 
is good, less is probably fine, and starting from zero is the only clear path. 
So, dipstick when sealant boogers/skin make addition difficult, and for 
figuring when to add, use the force/shlosh (shake and listen) test. Works for 
me!
-Kai

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