Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Atlantis MTB Video

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Thanks Kurt! The frame is MIT and the brakes are Paul Motolites.

Yakeen

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> On Dec 27, 2019, at 8:45 AM, 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree, really cool video!  I had the same question already asked about MIT 
> Atlantis vs. MUSA, but I'm also curious about the brakes on the rear.  I 
> couldn't ID them from the quick glimpse, what are they?  I really did NOT 
> need to see this video.  I'd been "Atlantis curious" in the past, then 
> recently saw a pic of one with flat bars and got curious again.  Promptly 
> talked myself out of it.  Touring bike, probably not really suitable for 
> trails.  Nope, now that defense mechanism for myself is out the window.  
> Seemed to handle trails just fine, or at least the kind I would consider 
> riding on. 
> Thank you for posting!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 11:05:33 PM UTC-5, YQ wrote:
>> Hi everyone -- I really enjoy reading the group's ride reports and checking 
>> out the great pictures of different folks' rides. I thought I would share a 
>> video that I put together of my Atlantis doing some riding in the Santa Cruz 
>> Mountains.  Link is below. Hope you enjoy.
>> 
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f2XIWEK9hciggoo5WRVwQeSKHocUUDOz/view?usp=sharing_eil=5dd02343
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gotta Hunqapillar question

[Eric Grim]

Nice pics, Deacon Patrick.  Some of those brochures you have, Chris L,
might be the ones I have.  Mine aren't dated tho, and so I wasn't sure
which was the final iteration of the prototypes.  Neat bike.  Joe, I had no
idea it was in production so long.  I think I missed it because I had some
spine issues that were only resolved with a fusion procedure a couple of
years ago.  As my functionality has returned I've gotten back into
bicycling, and bought my first Riv earlier this year (a NOS 2017
Appaloosa).  Anyway thanks everyone for the info.  Eric, Spokane

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 8:15 PM Chris L  wrote:

> I have several of the old Hunqapillar brochures saved on my computer and
> the one where Grant states they have received the first frames shows a
> diagatube bike, so I'm guessing the parallel tubes were only on some
> prototypes.
>
> The (old model) 54 Hunqapillar is the largest with a single top tube.  The
> brief 2nd model of Hunqapillar had different sizes but I know the 56cm had
> a single top tube.  I'm guessing the next size up would have a diagatube.
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 9:16:35 PM UTC-6, Eric Grim wrote:
>>
>> I was looking thru some old files at the Hunqapillar fliers/Reader
>> excerpts.  Some illustrations show a double top tube in the larger sizes,
>> like the one on (for example) the Joe Appaloosa.  One, hiowever, shows an
>> unpainted frame with a diagonal tube between the top and down tubes.  I've
>> never seen one in the flesh, or even many pics.  Did the "diagatube"
>> (Grant's word) make it to production, and if it did, on what sizes?  Was
>> the Hunqapillar a short-lived model?  How do you pronounce "Hunqapillar",
>> anyway?
>>
>> Thanks, Eric Grim (Spokane)
>>
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[RBW] Re: Gotta Hunqapillar question

[Chris L]

I have several of the old Hunqapillar brochures saved on my computer and 
the one where Grant states they have received the first frames shows a 
diagatube bike, so I'm guessing the parallel tubes were only on some 
prototypes. 

The (old model) 54 Hunqapillar is the largest with a single top tube.  The 
brief 2nd model of Hunqapillar had different sizes but I know the 56cm had 
a single top tube.  I'm guessing the next size up would have a diagatube.  



On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 9:16:35 PM UTC-6, Eric Grim wrote:
>
> I was looking thru some old files at the Hunqapillar fliers/Reader 
> excerpts.  Some illustrations show a double top tube in the larger sizes, 
> like the one on (for example) the Joe Appaloosa.  One, hiowever, shows an 
> unpainted frame with a diagonal tube between the top and down tubes.  I've 
> never seen one in the flesh, or even many pics.  Did the "diagatube" 
> (Grant's word) make it to production, and if it did, on what sizes?  Was 
> the Hunqapillar a short-lived model?  How do you pronounce "Hunqapillar", 
> anyway?
>
> Thanks, Eric Grim (Spokane)
>

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[RBW] Re: Gotta Hunqapillar question

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here are a three links with a few Hunqapillar photos for you, Eric:

https://deaconpatrick.org/winters-troubadour-vanguard

https://snap.as/deaconpatrick/bullmoose-bars-initial-impressions

https://snap.as/deaconpatrick/of-fishnet-long-johns-and-boiled-wool

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 8:16:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Grim wrote:
>
> I was looking thru some old files at the Hunqapillar fliers/Reader 
> excerpts.  Some illustrations show a double top tube in the larger sizes, 
> like the one on (for example) the Joe Appaloosa.  One, hiowever, shows an 
> unpainted frame with a diagonal tube between the top and down tubes.  I've 
> never seen one in the flesh, or even many pics.  Did the "diagatube" 
> (Grant's word) make it to production, and if it did, on what sizes?  Was 
> the Hunqapillar a short-lived model?  How do you pronounce "Hunqapillar", 
> anyway?
>
> Thanks, Eric Grim (Spokane)
>

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[RBW] Re: Gotta Hunqapillar question

[Joe Bernard]

Oh, I missed a question. Hunqapillar was around most of this decade, I believe 
it started around 08-09. You don't see them for sale much though, people seem 
to love them and keep them. 

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[RBW] Re: Gotta Hunqapillar question

[Jan O.]

The diagonal tube is on the size 58 and up. A 58 Hunqapillar will me my 
next Rivendell... one day.

Jan
San Francisco

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[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is on the Top Ten Beautiful Bikes of 2019 list

[Jason Fuller]

I think Ron / Bené / Ultraromance's entire bike collection would be my top 
ten beautiful bicycles of 2019, a portion of which are Rivs. That said, 
there are some impressive modern bikes there too. One thing I cannot find 
attractive is a straight-blade steel fork though. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Post Christmas Garage Cleanout. Brooks, Nitto, Shimano, VO

[John Aydelotte]

I've had nibbles on the Nitto Racks, but no solid offers.  Here's what's 
still available with some prices updated.  All prices include shipping 
(CONUS) via Priority USPS. 

Pictures of all are here:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/uUnbFnajcsCayVvB7
>
> 1. Nitto S65 Seatpost - 200mm length. 27.2mm Diameter. Single bolt. 
> Clearly used, but no damage. $40
>
> 2. Nitto Dirt Drop Stem - 190mm Quill. Fits 24.5mm bars and 22.2mm 
> Diameter. Nice shape except for some gouges on top (see picture). $35
>
> 3. Brooks Flyer Special in Honey - SOLD
>
> 4. Brooks Flyer in Aged Tan (I think - it's darker than honey) - almost 
> new - 500 miles or so on it. $80
>
> 5. Nitto RM016 Mustache Bar - installed once and used for a couple hundred 
> miles.  26mm clamp diameter.  $40
>
> 6. Shimano 105 front derailleur for triple. Fits 28.6 diameter seat-tube.  
> $20
>
> 7. Shimano PD-A600 SPD Pedals. SOLD
>
> 8. Shimano PD-A530 SPD Pedals. SPD one side and platform the other.  Less 
> beat up...  $30
>
> 9. VO early model of the Croissant Saddle Bag. Brown. Later models had 
> leather trim at all seams, and a stiffener inside, which made it a better 
> bag - this one is a bit  floppy? The tie or elastic that went between 
> the flaps at the opening is gone, but easily replaced.  Otherwise what it 
> really needs is a good clean - maybe rewax - put a piece of plastic on the 
> bottom to stiffen it up and it's better.  $20
>
> 10. VO Campagne Handlebar Bag.  Black canvas w/ brown leather trim. There 
> are leather straps (inside) that can attach this bag to your front 
> handlebars. Dimensions are 11"w x 6"d x 8"h. Has carrying strap, map pocket 
> on top.  Pretty nice bag that I never used much. $45
>
> 11. Nitto Campee 33R Rear Rack.  Bought from someone on this list- used a 
> bit and then my needs changed. VG shape. I have no hardware other than 
> what's in the picture, but I think you just need 5mm bolts (and who on this 
> list doesn't have some of those?)  $120
>
> 12. Nitto Campee 34F Front Lowrider Rack.  Bought on this list and never 
> touched it. Same disclaimer about hardware. $100.  
>
>* I'll do $200 for both Nitto racks if someone wants.
>
> 13. VO Campeur Rear Rack.  New with all hardware - never been installed. 
> No pics but new ones are here: 
> https://velo-orange.com/products/campeur-rear-rack  $110 
> 
>
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
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[RBW] Gotta Hunqapillar question

[Joe Bernard]

The diagatube was production on larger models (don't know what the size cutoff 
was), you'll see a bunch on a Google Images search. The parallel tubes ended up 
on a few Bombadils, which Hunq was the cheaper version of. 

HUNK-UH-PILL-ER

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[RBW] Gotta Hunqapillar question

[Eric Grim]

I was looking thru some old files at the Hunqapillar fliers/Reader 
excerpts.  Some illustrations show a double top tube in the larger sizes, 
like the one on (for example) the Joe Appaloosa.  One, hiowever, shows an 
unpainted frame with a diagonal tube between the top and down tubes.  I've 
never seen one in the flesh, or even many pics.  Did the "diagatube" 
(Grant's word) make it to production, and if it did, on what sizes?  Was 
the Hunqapillar a short-lived model?  How do you pronounce "Hunqapillar", 
anyway?

Thanks, Eric Grim (Spokane)

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[RBW] An Atlantis is on the Top Ten Beautiful Bikes of 2019 list

[Gabriel Bruguier]

Over at the Radavist!  
https://theradavist.com/2019/12/the-radavists-top-ten-beautiful-bicycles-of-2019/


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Re: [RBW] Wahoo Elemnt GPS Computer

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I like it. It’s big—bigger than even the Elemnt, which is on the large side. 
Beautiful screen and mostly intuitive ways to get to and around the various 
screens.

I put a prepaid SIM card in mine, and I can now create routes on the fly (it 
doesn’t talk to the phone like the Elemnt, which is both a plus and minus).

--Eric Norris
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@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Bill Schairer  wrote:
> 
> How is the Karoo?  I looked at it for that deal but couldn’t find enough 
> positive feedback so passed.
> 
> Bill S
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[RBW] FS: Wahoo Elemnt GPS Computer

[Bill Schairer]

How is the Karoo?  I looked at it for that deal but couldn’t find enough 
positive feedback so passed.

Bill S

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Re: [RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Nerl L.]

Your package "experiencing an exception" is corporate-passive-voice for "we 
screwed up."  Don't worry for a day or so, then check for an update.  
Usually its nothing, like the regular driver is on vacation and the sub 
messed up the route.  If nothing has changed in a day call Fedex or 
Shipbikes.

-Noah, militant grammarian

On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 4:54:02 PM UTC-5, Conor Skelding wrote:
>
> Just used Shipbikes for the first time on Saturday (after it quoted me $62 
> for the west suburbs of Chicago to Brooklyn compared to Bikeflights $87).
>
> Now the Fedex tracking page shows an "exception," which I've never seen 
> before. Anyone know what this means?
>
>
> [image: image.png] 


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Re: [RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[David Bivins]

Usually exception means bad weather and the package got rerouted/returned
to the depot for later delivery. At least in my experience.

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 4:54 PM Conor Skelding 
wrote:

> Just used Shipbikes for the first time on Saturday (after it quoted me $62
> for the west suburbs of Chicago to Brooklyn compared to Bikeflights $87).
>
> Now the Fedex tracking page shows an "exception," which I've never seen
> before. Anyone know what this means?
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jock Dewey  wrote:
>
>> Shipbikes is a div of LICKTONS, one of the oldest and most reputable bike
>> shops in the Chicago area. Bob Lickton has been enmeshed in the bicycle
>> industry his entire life and knows what he's doing.
>>
>> A great character, emphasis on character!
>>
>> These companies are just expeditors, so really the only two issues are 1
>> / cost and 2 / who you'd rather have transport and deliver your goods.
>>
>> BEST / Jock Dewey
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 6:03:42 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for everyone's input.  Shipbikes seems like a safe bet.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 5:21:15 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:

 I am seeing significantly less expensive rates using shipbikes vs.
 bikeflights for the same size/weight box...whether insurance is included or
 not.  I've used bikeflights many times, with no issues (including 1 time I
 had to make an insurance claim).

 Has anyone had a negative experience on shipbikes?

 Thanks,
 Tom

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[RBW] FS: Compass Tires, 26” Thunderburts, Assos shorts, Garmin Edge Explore

[Eric Douglas]

 


 

BOBs—

 

After cleaning out my closets, I’d like to offer the following items up.

 

All items are new and shipping to the lower 48 is included in the asking 
price.

 

Shipping via USPS priority is included. 

 

It’s best to contact me at ekdouglas (at) mindspring.com  

 

Regards,

 

Eric Douglas in Brooklyn, who is still in physical therapy for hip 
bursitis, so hasn’t done much riding lately, but has gone for some very 
nice walks. 

 
  Compass Rat Trap Pass  tires.  Extralight with black sidewalls new in 
packaging. $140  pair. Compass Rat Trap Pass mounted but never ridden.  
Extralight 
with black sidewalls. $130 pair. two pair available. Snoquamie pass. 
Extralight with black sidewalls $135 pair. Compass Barlow Pass mounted but 
never ridden.  Extralight with black sidewalls $130 pair.   Schwalbe 
Thunderburt  26 x 2.10 liteskin. 5 tires available. *$45 each.*   Garmin 
Edge Explore with  black silicone case. I bought a few months ago and never 
used it.  It has been removed from the packaging and charged, but it has 
never never set up or registered with Garmin.I’ll include a few spare 
mounts if you want them. $150. 
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/07/garmin-edge-explore-review.html 
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/629156.   *Assos* H FI.Uno S5 Half Short 
XLG. Two pair available. New with tags. $90 each. 
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/assos-h-fi-uno-s5-half-short/rp-prod36446
 

 

Mavic Open Pro/ Shimano 9 speed  XT silver hubs, 36 db spokes, built by 
PJW. New, but shopwear. I prefer local pickup on these. $150

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Re: [RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Conor Skelding]

Just used Shipbikes for the first time on Saturday (after it quoted me $62
for the west suburbs of Chicago to Brooklyn compared to Bikeflights $87).

Now the Fedex tracking page shows an "exception," which I've never seen
before. Anyone know what this means?

[image: image.png]

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 2:20 PM Jock Dewey  wrote:

> Shipbikes is a div of LICKTONS, one of the oldest and most reputable bike
> shops in the Chicago area. Bob Lickton has been enmeshed in the bicycle
> industry his entire life and knows what he's doing.
>
> A great character, emphasis on character!
>
> These companies are just expeditors, so really the only two issues are 1 /
> cost and 2 / who you'd rather have transport and deliver your goods.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 6:03:42 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for everyone's input.  Shipbikes seems like a safe bet.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 5:21:15 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>>
>>> I am seeing significantly less expensive rates using shipbikes vs.
>>> bikeflights for the same size/weight box...whether insurance is included or
>>> not.  I've used bikeflights many times, with no issues (including 1 time I
>>> had to make an insurance claim).
>>>
>>> Has anyone had a negative experience on shipbikes?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tom
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, I just did a very rough hypothetical quote for the same hypothetical
package to and from the same zips, and ShipBikes was $23 cheaper than
BikeFlights.

**For what that is worth.**

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:13 AM Eric Daume  wrote:

> I'm starting to shift over to Shipbikes after shipping many, many bikes
> and frames with Bikeflights. Mostly, I like my Fedex office better than my
> UPS office; dropoffs are more convenient with Shipbikes. It does seem to be
> generally cheaper as well.
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1:10 AM Evan E.  wrote:
>
>> I, too, have used ShipBikes four or five times in the past several years.
>> No problems at all.
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Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: Limited Edition* Dahon Hon Solo, with extras and trimmings

[Patrick Moore]

Corwin: The nearest LBS says $60 to pack and ship; I may try another nearby
shop that may be $5 or $10 cheaper.

ShipBikes suggests $75 for a full sized bike from ABQ to the northernmost
tip of Vermont

Expect about $140 -- IIRC, I shipped a bike recently and it cost about that.

I will use the cheapest, but only secure and insured for $500, packing and
shipping methods, so let's say $140 and adjust up (paypal net) or down
(ditto) as needed.

LMK the answers to the questions.

Thanks again.

Patrick

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 2:09 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> It is indeed still for sale, and it is yours, if you will answer a couple
> of questions:
>
> Presently it is set up with a single, front Brake -- Tektro 559, IIRC
> pulled by the right lever. The left lever is the hood body only, but I will
> include the lever proper and the hinge pin.
>
> 1. Do you want the current 15 t fixed cog (52 X 15 X 20 = 69" gear), or
> would you like a bigger cog, or a freewheel? I have:
>
> 16 t fixed cog
> 18 t fixed cog
>
> 17 t fw
> 18 t fw (but cheapo ACS without apparent way to remove it without
> destroying it in a vice; not sure, but this is possible)
>
> 2. Do you want me to install a rear caliper brake? I'll do so as part of
> the $500 cost, but I'll also take of $15 if you take the bike with the 1
> brake and the 2 levers as described.
>
> *OR* I'll throw in a #4 HPX in place of the rear caliper and the $15.
>
> 3. I have a large basket that fits securely on the rear rack and can be
> held securely in place with a single toe strap. It carries 2 loaded paper
> grocery sacks and comes with a cargo net. Do you want this? Included in
> price, but will probably cost a bit extra for packing and shipping.
>
> Apart from these questions, the bike comes ready to ride, and with spare
> tubes and the tools and bag as described.
>
> I will check about packing and shipping; will have to get exact amount but
> I will have it professionally packed, and then ship it the cheapest way --
> the last time I shipped a bike, I saved the buyer $30 or more by picking up
> the box at the bike store and taking it to FedEx myself.
>
> I will probably try ShipBikes, said to be cheaper than BikeFlights and
> possibly more reliable per recent threads.
>
> I will get at least a rough estimate (Tim Fricker, sells folders) for
> packing and shipping, and you can pay that amount. I'll refund any extra,
> and bill for any deficit -- Is that OK?
>
> Don't send payment until we get some of this worked out.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Patrick
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1:40 PM Corwin  wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick -
>>
>> Is the Hon Solo still for sale?
>>
>> Sent a message privately.
>>
>> Happy to take it if you still have it.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:58:24 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> It served its purpose when I was driving my daughter around to events
>>> and waiting for her, but I no longer need it. But boy, did I spend plenty
>>> on upgrades!
>>>
>>> I am the 2nd owner, but the first owner sold it to me in the box it came
>>> in, after hardly any use, if any at all. Per my spreadsheet, I have put 678
>>> miles on it, but there are undoubtedly other, unrecorded miles, so let's
>>> say 800 miles total, near enough.
>>>
>>> Condition is VG: only a few minor scratches which I can identify only by
>>> peering at it from 8" in my reading glasses. Bearings and hinges are all
>>> fine and work as designed to.
>>>
>>> Build:
>>>
>>> Wheels: Rear is OEM; front rebuilt with BioLogic folder-specific dynohub.
>>> Tires: Tioga PowerBands, 42s, with tubes containing OS.
>>> Chainset: Viscount 50.4, tapered holes, 52 t ring.
>>> Cog: 15 (69" gear) but I can swap for 17 or 18 (I think) or 16 or 18 t
>>> freewheel.
>>> Chain: It has a used 10 sp chain on it, but I have a NIB 1/8" one that
>>> I've not gotten around to installing.
>>> Pedals: None, or some generic and used and road-small SPDs if I can find
>>> them; no extra charge.
>>> (Note: I am keeping the pedals show in the photo.)
>>> Brakes: Front: Tektro 559; Rear: none. If you use a freewheel -- you
>>> know what to do.
>>> Brake levers: Shimano 600, aero, nice. I will re-install the lever
>>> proper on the left side.
>>> BB, headset, SP: OEM.
>>> (Note: The seatpost contains a pump with Schraeder head; I've added a
>>> Presta adaptor.)
>>> Saddle: Cambium 17.
>>> Bar: Surly Open, cut down by about 2" on each side. Wine bottle plugs.
>>> Bar tape: scrap, but decent; 2 layers.
>>> Rear Dahon cargo rack -- you can actually carry Ortlieb Rollers on the
>>> back if you adjust them rearwardly.
>>> Headlamp: Lumotec IQ Premium -- nice light, except in plastic.
>>> Rear: Topline of some sort, dyno operated.
>>> Fenders: plastic, cheap, but they work and are the proper size for the
>>> tires.
>>> Crane bell, brass, small.
>>> Banjo Bros cylindrical bar bag. Bag will contain mini-mini pump and a
>>> couple of extra tubes, one with OS in it.
>>>
>>> Options:
>>> Carradice SQR 

Re: [RBW] Re: For Sale: Limited Edition* Dahon Hon Solo, with extras and trimmings

[Patrick Moore]

It is indeed still for sale, and it is yours, if you will answer a couple
of questions:

Presently it is set up with a single, front Brake -- Tektro 559, IIRC
pulled by the right lever. The left lever is the hood body only, but I will
include the lever proper and the hinge pin.

1. Do you want the current 15 t fixed cog (52 X 15 X 20 = 69" gear), or
would you like a bigger cog, or a freewheel? I have:

16 t fixed cog
18 t fixed cog

17 t fw
18 t fw (but cheapo ACS without apparent way to remove it without
destroying it in a vice; not sure, but this is possible)

2. Do you want me to install a rear caliper brake? I'll do so as part of
the $500 cost, but I'll also take of $15 if you take the bike with the 1
brake and the 2 levers as described.

*OR* I'll throw in a #4 HPX in place of the rear caliper and the $15.

3. I have a large basket that fits securely on the rear rack and can be
held securely in place with a single toe strap. It carries 2 loaded paper
grocery sacks and comes with a cargo net. Do you want this? Included in
price, but will probably cost a bit extra for packing and shipping.

Apart from these questions, the bike comes ready to ride, and with spare
tubes and the tools and bag as described.

I will check about packing and shipping; will have to get exact amount but
I will have it professionally packed, and then ship it the cheapest way --
the last time I shipped a bike, I saved the buyer $30 or more by picking up
the box at the bike store and taking it to FedEx myself.

I will probably try ShipBikes, said to be cheaper than BikeFlights and
possibly more reliable per recent threads.

I will get at least a rough estimate (Tim Fricker, sells folders) for
packing and shipping, and you can pay that amount. I'll refund any extra,
and bill for any deficit -- Is that OK?

Don't send payment until we get some of this worked out.

Thanks!

Patrick

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1:40 PM Corwin  wrote:

> Hi Patrick -
>
> Is the Hon Solo still for sale?
>
> Sent a message privately.
>
> Happy to take it if you still have it.
>
> Namaste,
>
>
> Corwin
>
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:58:24 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> It served its purpose when I was driving my daughter around to events and
>> waiting for her, but I no longer need it. But boy, did I spend plenty on
>> upgrades!
>>
>> I am the 2nd owner, but the first owner sold it to me in the box it came
>> in, after hardly any use, if any at all. Per my spreadsheet, I have put 678
>> miles on it, but there are undoubtedly other, unrecorded miles, so let's
>> say 800 miles total, near enough.
>>
>> Condition is VG: only a few minor scratches which I can identify only by
>> peering at it from 8" in my reading glasses. Bearings and hinges are all
>> fine and work as designed to.
>>
>> Build:
>>
>> Wheels: Rear is OEM; front rebuilt with BioLogic folder-specific dynohub.
>> Tires: Tioga PowerBands, 42s, with tubes containing OS.
>> Chainset: Viscount 50.4, tapered holes, 52 t ring.
>> Cog: 15 (69" gear) but I can swap for 17 or 18 (I think) or 16 or 18 t
>> freewheel.
>> Chain: It has a used 10 sp chain on it, but I have a NIB 1/8" one that
>> I've not gotten around to installing.
>> Pedals: None, or some generic and used and road-small SPDs if I can find
>> them; no extra charge.
>> (Note: I am keeping the pedals show in the photo.)
>> Brakes: Front: Tektro 559; Rear: none. If you use a freewheel -- you know
>> what to do.
>> Brake levers: Shimano 600, aero, nice. I will re-install the lever proper
>> on the left side.
>> BB, headset, SP: OEM.
>> (Note: The seatpost contains a pump with Schraeder head; I've added a
>> Presta adaptor.)
>> Saddle: Cambium 17.
>> Bar: Surly Open, cut down by about 2" on each side. Wine bottle plugs.
>> Bar tape: scrap, but decent; 2 layers.
>> Rear Dahon cargo rack -- you can actually carry Ortlieb Rollers on the
>> back if you adjust them rearwardly.
>> Headlamp: Lumotec IQ Premium -- nice light, except in plastic.
>> Rear: Topline of some sort, dyno operated.
>> Fenders: plastic, cheap, but they work and are the proper size for the
>> tires.
>> Crane bell, brass, small.
>> Banjo Bros cylindrical bar bag. Bag will contain mini-mini pump and a
>> couple of extra tubes, one with OS in it.
>>
>> Options:
>> Carradice SQR block and as-new Nelson Camper Longflap: add $100
>> Pair of almost-as-new black Ortlieb Sports Packers Plus: add $150.
>>
>> *$500 + professional packing and shipping by BikeFlights or the other
>> one.*
>>
>> Will trade for Brompton (maybe); later-than-2014, highish end Mac laptop?
>> Let's talk.
>>
>> Other photos available upon request.
>>
>> Please reply off-list.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Limited Edition* Dahon Hon Solo, with extras and trimmings

[Corwin]

Hi Patrick -

Is the Hon Solo still for sale?

Sent a message privately.

Happy to take it if you still have it.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:58:24 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> It served its purpose when I was driving my daughter around to events and 
> waiting for her, but I no longer need it. But boy, did I spend plenty on 
> upgrades!
>
> I am the 2nd owner, but the first owner sold it to me in the box it came 
> in, after hardly any use, if any at all. Per my spreadsheet, I have put 678 
> miles on it, but there are undoubtedly other, unrecorded miles, so let's 
> say 800 miles total, near enough.
>
> Condition is VG: only a few minor scratches which I can identify only by 
> peering at it from 8" in my reading glasses. Bearings and hinges are all 
> fine and work as designed to.
>
> Build:
>
> Wheels: Rear is OEM; front rebuilt with BioLogic folder-specific dynohub.
> Tires: Tioga PowerBands, 42s, with tubes containing OS.
> Chainset: Viscount 50.4, tapered holes, 52 t ring.
> Cog: 15 (69" gear) but I can swap for 17 or 18 (I think) or 16 or 18 t 
> freewheel.
> Chain: It has a used 10 sp chain on it, but I have a NIB 1/8" one that 
> I've not gotten around to installing.
> Pedals: None, or some generic and used and road-small SPDs if I can find 
> them; no extra charge.
> (Note: I am keeping the pedals show in the photo.)
> Brakes: Front: Tektro 559; Rear: none. If you use a freewheel -- you know 
> what to do.
> Brake levers: Shimano 600, aero, nice. I will re-install the lever proper 
> on the left side.
> BB, headset, SP: OEM.
> (Note: The seatpost contains a pump with Schraeder head; I've added a 
> Presta adaptor.)
> Saddle: Cambium 17.
> Bar: Surly Open, cut down by about 2" on each side. Wine bottle plugs.
> Bar tape: scrap, but decent; 2 layers.
> Rear Dahon cargo rack -- you can actually carry Ortlieb Rollers on the 
> back if you adjust them rearwardly.
> Headlamp: Lumotec IQ Premium -- nice light, except in plastic.
> Rear: Topline of some sort, dyno operated.
> Fenders: plastic, cheap, but they work and are the proper size for the 
> tires.
> Crane bell, brass, small.
> Banjo Bros cylindrical bar bag. Bag will contain mini-mini pump and a 
> couple of extra tubes, one with OS in it.
>
> Options:
> Carradice SQR block and as-new Nelson Camper Longflap: add $100
> Pair of almost-as-new black Ortlieb Sports Packers Plus: add $150.
>
> *$500 + professional packing and shipping by BikeFlights or the other one.*
>
> Will trade for Brompton (maybe); later-than-2014, highish end Mac laptop? 
> Let's talk.
>
> Other photos available upon request.
>
> Please reply off-list.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[Ed Carolipio]

Drw mentioned earlier that Keith's rack sits too far forward and a bit high 
for the Clem. The former puts most of the ahead of the front of the axle 
rather than behind it, while the latter increases the moment of inertia in 
the side-to-side direction. Leah's rack, on the other hand, sits several 
inches closer to the fork and a couple of inches lower: note the distance 
between the rear of the rack and the v-brake and the gap between the rack 
and tire. That setup is more optimized for riding with a high front load, 
if that's your preference when hauling stuff with the bike.

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[RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Jock Dewey]

Shipbikes is a div of LICKTONS, one of the oldest and most reputable bike 
shops in the Chicago area. Bob Lickton has been enmeshed in the bicycle 
industry his entire life and knows what he's doing. 

A great character, emphasis on character!

These companies are just expeditors, so really the only two issues are 1 / 
cost and 2 / who you'd rather have transport and deliver your goods.

BEST / Jock Dewey



On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 6:03:42 AM UTC-8, tc wrote:
>
> Thanks for everyone's input.  Shipbikes seems like a safe bet.
>
> Tom
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 5:21:15 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>>
>> I am seeing significantly less expensive rates using shipbikes vs. 
>> bikeflights for the same size/weight box...whether insurance is included or 
>> not.  I've used bikeflights many times, with no issues (including 1 time I 
>> had to make an insurance claim).  
>>
>> Has anyone had a negative experience on shipbikes?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[masmojo]

Oh! Also, I was gonna say I currently have a large Wald basket on my Clementine 
and I manage, but it's a bit unwieldy. On the other hand I usually have a 
medium basket mounted & in that configuration I typically have no issues.

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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[masmojo]

I dig tha boots!!

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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[Leah Peterson]

That dog was the *most* adorable - on that we’ll agree. Meanwhile, as soon as I 
get on a plane and set foot on NV soil, I’m grabbing my Clem, strapping on the 
Wald to the basket rack and loading it down with something obscene. I will 
report back on whether or not there is flex or whatnot. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I disagree! (shakes fist at clouds)
> 
> But the pic with the puppers is adorable 
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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[Joe Bernard]

I disagree! (shakes fist at clouds)

But the pic with the puppers is adorable 

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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[Joe Bernard]

Well no, just because Leah is a strong rider who balances front loads well 
doesn't mean the bike was designed for that. Grant has very clearly stated his 
frames have a 'carry the heavy stuff in the rear' bias because they ride better 
unloaded with that geometry. 

Alternatively this works well on low-trail frames and you can ride those bikes 
all day with a big front load if that's your thing. It's not mine, I tried it 
with a Crust and hated the handling with no load. I can't get my head around a 
bike that only works with stuff in a front bag. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: SR 60mm stem with 25.4 clamp

[Mat Grewe]

The stem is still available.  Thanks.

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:05:12 PM UTC-6, Mat Grewe wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> $20 shipped CONUS for the stem.  The picture has both a 50mm and 60mm 
> stem, but just the 60mm stem on the right is for sale.
>

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Re: [RBW] Clem L set up

[Garth]

Bikes are "designed" to be ridden. Just ride means just that.  How that 
plays out is PFM  pure f'n magic !   F is for fun ; )   For every "this 
frame was designed for X", there are countless examples like Leah who just 
ride their bike as they intuitively know how to do without needing to be 
"informed" of nebulous "intentions" aka "suppositions" .   P F M   is Life 
Itself  .



On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 2:01:04 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Hmmm...I have limited experience with bike models, as I only have a Betty 
> Foy and a Clem L, but I can’t say I’ve known these bikes to not accept 
> heavy front loads. I will also admit I never knew any better and because I 
> was pulling Baby Bear on his trail-a- bike, I only had the option to carry 
> front loads on my Betty. I got the heavy duty Nitto so I could carry 30 
> pounds. I carried all kinds of things in my basket (my dog was 19 of those 
> pounds)  and don’t remember feeling that the bike did anything but a good 
> job. I have not put my new Clem to the test yet, as I have been loathe to 
> strap a basket over my pretty Nitto Basket Rack. Friends - are you saying 
> the Clem L carries front loads worse than other Rivendells, or do all 
> Rivendells struggle with front loads?
>
>
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[RBW] Clem L set up

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I take pretty huge loads from trader Joe's using front lowriders on my step 
through Rosco Bubble. Step through frames like my Rosco and your Clem L, having 
pretty beefy forks, can handle weight on those forks. Just like our bodies, 
they like that weight carried low and centered, not high and tippy. So yeah, 
lowriders up front with the chips and cereal up high wherever you can get it.
As for rear loads, on my Clem H, a torsionally sturdy diamond frame (not step 
through), rear loads are lovely. If you must rear load your step through bike, 
don't try standing up to crank or put any substantial weight on the front of 
the bike to avoid feeling your bike turn into a noodle. 
Killer bike BTW
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[tc]

Thanks for everyone's input.  Shipbikes seems like a safe bet.

Tom

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 5:21:15 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> I am seeing significantly less expensive rates using shipbikes vs. 
> bikeflights for the same size/weight box...whether insurance is included or 
> not.  I've used bikeflights many times, with no issues (including 1 time I 
> had to make an insurance claim).  
>
> Has anyone had a negative experience on shipbikes?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[MCT]

I have been using shipbikes for years with no issues.  They are usually cheaper 
than bike flights.  

Matt in OKC

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Re: [RBW] Re: shipbikes.com vs. bikeflights.com

[Eric Daume]

I'm starting to shift over to Shipbikes after shipping many, many bikes and
frames with Bikeflights. Mostly, I like my Fedex office better than my UPS
office; dropoffs are more convenient with Shipbikes. It does seem to be
generally cheaper as well.

Eric

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 1:10 AM Evan E.  wrote:

> I, too, have used ShipBikes four or five times in the past several years.
> No problems at all.
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