Re: [RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Drw]

Also check thorogood, if going the mock toe route. Equal in quality to redwing, 
or at least were 4-5 years ago at a fraction of the price. I’ve actually have a 
thorogood pair that outlasted a redwing pair that is waiting for a resole.

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[RBW] Crash Stories

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Oh my gosh, Philip. You made it all the way home and nearly died in your 
driveway.  

Also, I’m shocked at how many of you have flown over your handlebars. And that 
you seem to have escaped broken ribs and necks. I now think about your stories 
on my rides and am imagining all the ways I might also go over the bars. I 
morbidly wonder which bones would be the best ones to break and have the least 
impact on my life. I wonder if collarbones are the obvious choice. I don’t want 
to be on crutches, and so much can go wrong with hands, I really don’t want 
anything facial, maybe a couple of ribs wouldn’t be the worst, no surgery, and 
all...now this is what I think about. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Patrick Moore]

After mulling over the Oh! So many possibilities! I am now leaning hard
toward those Redwing Moc Toed boots. I had a pair of doubtless lower
quality LL Bean boots very much like those, that I used and abused for
years, and they were very comfortable and practical; but I'm sure that the
Redwings are practically and aesthetically better. Yours certainly look
nice.

However, my purchase is on hold since the trip I anticipated in May, where
I thought I'd use the new boots, was cancelled -- and, better reason, I
have just talked to Chauncey Matthews about 

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 5:36 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> Enjoyed this discussion, and wound up buying a pair of Red Wing mocc toe
> boots (see attached photo). The chukkas didn’t have enough room for my
> high-volume forefoot. The breaking-in process is going smoothly, and I look
> forward to wearing these for years to come.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 2:37:39 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking of replacing my walking shoes, a worthy but unexceptional
>> pair from an REI parking lot sale a few years ago.
>>
>> I'd like to find something that supports the ankles, has Vibram soles, is
>> not excessively heavy, and that has replaceable -- Goodyear welt? -- soles.
>> Laces only, in case walking shoes have been loaded with bike-shoe-type
>> "technology."
>>
>> Bonus points if they are brown or black leather that can be wax-polished
>> to restore looks.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Redwing has some likely-looking models, but I know next to nothing about
>> walking boots.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Walking boots -- not entirely unrelated to cycling

[Philip Williamson]

Those boots look great, I spent part of my Sunday tuning up my Red Wings with 
leather prep and polish that I got from the RW store in town. Well worth the 
trouble. It’s enjoyable to keep something good in full fettle.

Philip
Santa Rosa, Cal.

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[RBW] Crash Stories

[Philip Williamson]

Worst crash? Fifty mile fixed gear ride out through Occidental and Guerneville 
in Sonoma County. Hustling back to the house so I could pick up my son from 
kindergarten, I turned into my neighbors’ brick driveway a little too fast. 
Bike slid out on the wet bricks, and I thought, “Oh, I’ll just catch myself on 
the fender of my car.” Nope. Seconds later I was laying next to my car, bike 
somewhere else, and clearly could feel my left arm out in front of me, but I 
couldn’t see it where it should be. “Oh, I must’ve dislocated my shoulder.” 
Grabbed the left arm to pop it back into place, but it was all floppy at the 
elbow. 
I started yelling for help. My wife, in the kitchen was like, “Philip’s 
probably yelling about some dumb thing with his bike. I don’t need to deal with 
that.” My neighbor across the street thought, “Oh no, the landscaper ran over 
one of the neighbor’s puppies. I don’t need to see that.” About 30 seconds 
later they all came running and took me to the hospital.
Five hours of surgery for my smashed humerus, two giant titanium plates, and 
many pins, one of which came loose a month or two later and worked its way to 
the surface, just under the bicep.

My arm still tells me when the weather changes.

Philip
Santa Rosa, Cal.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a 700 x 50 commuting tire

[Matthew P]

I just put on 700c x 2" Schwalbe Big Apples a few rides back. They feel 
different than the Riddler 45's I was riding, in a way I can't put my finger 
on, but they're fine.
- Matthew

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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Matthew P]

Hi Karl,

Is that a TOYO, MUSA, or MIT Atlantis? What else can you tell us about it?

Thank you.
-Matthew
On a 56 cm Atlantis that might be too small

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[RBW] Re: Crash Stories

[Bill F]

I hit a curb with my right pedal and flipped over the handlebars.  Wasn't 
paying attention then went into slow motion.  Keep your distance!  (glad I 
learned that lesson in my 20's).

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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Max S]

As the poet once put it:  “A million space bucks!” 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Matt Beecher]

Over locknut dimension:  “What is the minimum spacing needed for the wheels?”  
130 or 135mm?

Cheers,
Matt B
Oswego, IL

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[RBW] Re: Crash Stories

[masmojo]

I really don't crash all too often and generally when I do they are hardly 
memorable. 

I wouldn't chalk it up to skill (although several years of mountain bike 
racing certainly helped) or even over-cautiousness, more than likely just 
the experience of riding a bike for 51 years and kind of knowing what sort 
of situations will lead to a bad outcome.

Generally far more satisfying for me are the times I almost crashed, but 
didn't!

I learned early on some little tricks that help me avoid crashing when I 
think to use them; the one I like the most is related to tire choice. I 
don't mind running slicks or semi-slicks on the back, but on the front I 
like to have a few knobs on the tire or at least the outside edge. A small 
thing, but having that extra little bit of bite up front can keep you from 
losing front traction at those awkward times. rail crossings, metal steps, 
Wet curbs, etc. Generally I pick the front wheel over them so it's not an 
issue, but occasionally you get caught out. Luckily these are typically 
fairly low speed crashes and are more embarrassing than anything.

The one wreck that always sticks with me is from many years ago (92"?); I 
was riding my fairly new XO-1 on my standard after work 42 mile loop in 
Houston. Probably doesn't take a genius to figure If I left after work and 
I was out for 42 miles I was arriving Home *in the dark*. :-(  
Additionally, a few miles from home a light rain kicked in; those old 
Avocet tires had a sort of inverted tread, fine when you're going 
straight!!  2 blocks from Home I came around a corner, a corner that I knew 
like the back of my hand, but maybe I was going a little faster than 
usual?  I don't know, but there was an expansion joint  going down the 
center of the street that was about 2" taller on one side than the other, 
my front wheel caught it and I went down pretty hard.

So, I lay there on the street taking stock of my situation. Bones broken? 
No! Good! Blood/road rash? well yeah, but partially because it's wet, not 
too bad!  At this point I notice the headlights of an old Dodge van slowly 
creeping my way. I stagger to my feet, picking up the bike and examining it 
for damage.  Front wheel is not aligned with the handlebars as could be 
expected by the way I went down, but otherwise everything seems fine.

As I am swinging my leg over to limp home, the guy in the van pulls up and 
says "is your bike OK?"; I say "I think it's fine" and he drives off.

After he left I started thinking that maybe the guys priorities were a 
little *off*, because he didn't really care if *I* was OK or not!  Just the 
bike! LOL

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl Worley]

Challenge thrown!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:06 PM, WETH  wrote:
> 
> I have one! A great bike, but every thing is for sale at the right price!
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl Worley]

Old? Sorry, not that technical. Explain and I’ll figure out

Spokes: white industries 40-40
Phil Wood 36 rear/32 front
Cassette: 8/9 speed Phil. I know 8 for the White. 

Thanks

Karl

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> On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Teague Scott  wrote:
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> 
> Hey Karl,
> 
> Potentially interested in either one of those wheelsets. A couple of details 
> for each needed first:
> 
> What is the
> 1. OLD?
> 2. Spoke count?
> 3. Cassette compatibility? I'm assuming that WI hub is 8(9/10)spd...
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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[WETH]

I have one! A great bike, but every thing is for sale at the right price!

Erl
Kensington, MD, USA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Max S]

Who is holding the 56cm 650 Hunqas?

- Max “inquiring minds” in A2

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[RBW] WTB Choco Bar

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Erik,
I have a new one I did not use I can pass on. What kind of stem are you 
interested in.  May be able to give you a deal on both.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan
(616)928-4226

Can not DM currently but text for pics etc if desired

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[RBW] FS: Clem L 45cm

[Joe Bernard]

Bags sold. 

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[RBW] FS: BG lights, "3-speed" levers, frame and u-locks

[Joe Bernard]

Lights sold. 

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[RBW] FS: BG lights, "3-speed" levers, frame and u-locks

[Joe Bernard]

All except lights for shipping. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl]

I’ll send it all to you Bill! I may be able to personally fly it cheaper at 
this point!

Karl

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a few Nitto bits, kickstand, fenders, wheels, etc.

[bo richardson]

i have a nice rear nitto rack with the extra bag bar

one of our troop,
 kim has an unused rear saddlesack medium
i dont know what she wants for it but she would like to sell it

feel free to call me
Bo
bellingham
206 8235 oh70

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[RBW] Also looking for .... [ISO 559 X 50 or 650B X 50 fenders, "hammered," "snakeskin," or "wavy."]

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, and I'm also looking for:

1. A Tektro cantilever housing stop to be mounted on a 1" quill, and:

2. A stem binder bolt long enough for a Pearl stem, wedge-type nut, in case
it matters. A few mm in length either way is fine; this is for another stem
(*) but Pearl is a good standard.

(*) Cut-down T Deluxe, if you insist on knowing. How far cut down? Dunno;
not cut down yet. Yes, it does need to be cut down, don't argue with me.

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:55 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'm looking for a pair of nice, light aluminum fenders with a pattern, no
> plain, please, in new or as-new condition, with hardware.
>
> Before I buy from VO, whatcha got?
>
> Thanks.
>
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[RBW] ISO 559 X 50 or 650B X 50 fenders, "hammered," "snakeskin," or "wavy."

[Patrick Moore]

I'm looking for a pair of nice, light aluminum fenders with a pattern, no
plain, please, in new or as-new condition, with hardware.

Before I buy from VO, whatcha got?

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[RBW] FS: Clem L 45cm

[Joe Bernard]

Contact stuff because the PM feature here is miserable:

joeremi62 gmail com
Text 415 786 4623

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[RBW] FS: Clem L 45cm

[Joe Bernard]

Whelp, I have a custom arriving shortly and a Frank Jones in mid-build, so this 
one is about to become slightly redundant for me. Your turn to ride it! My 
original plan was to sell frame + wheels only, but it's such a nice build for a 
shorter-ish person that I thought I'd offer the whole schlamozzle first and see 
if there's any interest. Offers taken on F/F/HS/BB or rolling chassis, too, but 
let's start here. 

Latest-gen Clem L frame bought from Riv last year, the ETT is about 57.5 so 
longer than earlier ones. The original sizing guidelines still up on the Riv 
site won't work, I'm 5'-7" (ok 5'-6", Good Friend says all guys lie about their 
height by an inch and she's probably right ) and 79-80-ish PBH.   

Immaculate condition because I'm OCD about such matters, Grant would 
undoubtedly think I'm too careful with my bikes and don't ride hard enough. I'm 
sorry!

Cromo Boscos
Nitto HiRiser
S83 post, stem and post set way high so no up/down squiggles on them
Deore rd
Campy Xenon 9 fd
Shimano 9-speed on Paul Thumbies
Shimano 11-34 9 cassette
Bombshell v-brakes
Avid levers
Jones Bikes clear (softer) grips

Crank is a brand new Sugino XD600 24-36-50, 152MM arms. I like stubby cranks 
cuz I think us shorter folks are riding ridiculously long cranks most of the 
time, YRMV. 

Rear wheel is old Deore XT hub with unknown (to me) rim, has a Wheelsmith 
sticker on it, straight and true. 
Front is new from Rich @ Riv a few months ago, Deore hub, Velocity Atlas rim, 
straight and true for the next 20 years probably. 

Simworks by Honjo fenders
Some kinda Tubus rear rack, I'm keeping the front. 
No saddle/pedals. 

The orange (and new) Ortleibs are extra and negotiatable if you're into the 
whole touring package. I love them but the color isn't *quite* going to match 
my custom. If they don't sell with this bike I'll use them anyway!

Let's say $1400 plus shipping, should be about $1500 total. Offers accepted, 
including variations on partial builds..say if you already have longer cranks 
you like. 

Ok enough of all this wordy wordiness, here's pics!
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/zRKHwXE7DKarcYMX9

Thanks,
Joe Bernard
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[RBW] WTB Choco Bar

[Erik Wright]

Hey folks,

Like most, this home time has my mind racing with bike projects. I’ve thought 
about a Choco set up on my Sam for a while, and Riv’s out. I’ll likely buy a 
stem from them, but does anyone have a Choco Bar they’d like to move along?

Erik, PHL

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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Teague Scott]

Hey Karl,

Potentially interested in either one of those wheelsets. A couple of 
details for each needed first:

What is the
1. OLD?
2. Spoke count?
3. Cassette compatibility? I'm assuming that WI hub is 8(9/10)spd...

- Teague in Boise

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Re: [RBW] Mark’s rack + Wald 137

[Eric Daume]

I second Mike’s motion. I use the standard Wald hardware on both of my
basket bikes, and it works fine.

Eric

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020, Mike Packard  wrote:

> I prefer the included mounting hardware from Wald. It's solid, requires no
> rack, is easier to install (i.e. non-invasive to brakes, no diving boards &
> bending struts), supports just as much weight, and is way cheaper. I always
> thought the reason to go with the rack is that in theory it can look
> cleaner, but in practice I'm supposed to loop a strap over the handlebars
> anyway.
>
> mike in austin
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[R Shannon]

Welcome to the group Isaac! Your Homer is a beauty.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:51 PM Isaac  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is my first post. I’ve been reading the Google group for a while and
> very much appreciate the information and photos of such wonderful bikes.
> This is my  A. Homer Hilsen newly set up with a Crust towel rack bar.  I
> took a short tour with the bikes set up with a Wavie bar and liked that as
> well but my other bikes all have flatfish bars so I'm giving the towel rack
> a shot and for the time being I'm done tweaking, it feels wonderful.
>
> Happy riding and best wishes to you all,
> Isaac
>
> (apologies if this comes through as a double post, I don't think it went
> through the first time)
>
> On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 4:41:14 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>> Attached find a pair of Rivs (and their owners) on a bright and chilly
>> day - me and my trusty Hunq and my wife on her maiden Cheviot voyage, after
>> I spent way too long building it up... She likes it!
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingam, WA
>>
>> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>>
>>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your
>>> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love
>>> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Bill Lindsay]

Grilled Cheezus!  That's a treasure trove at spectacular prices.  I've got 
wheelsets for these framesets.  So if YOU buy them and want wheels, let me 
know.  If you don't buy these framesets, I'm going to have a hard time 
resisting.  I think my first knee-jerk purchase would be the Hunqapillar.  
Try to beat me to it!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 7:50:09 AM UTC-7, Karl wrote:
>
> Finally getting some dusty frames off the wall now that I have some time 
> at home. Open to questions and offers. Prices do not include shipping. I 
> will pack, and charge actual Bikeflights or ShipBikes delivery. Photos 
> here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/axtohyjzEyJBC3fW9
>
> *59cm Custom Road.* Will run 28's. Light scratches and one small ding on 
> the top tube. I bought this last year, and found a coupled road about 2 
> weeks later. Would make a fun go fast build. $1000
>
> *Hunqapillar- 54cm* 700c Plenty of scratches... plenty of life left in 
> her! Ride as is, or send to D for a sexy new paint job. $900
>
> *Atlantis- 58cm* Beausage a plenty, but no dents or dings. Would make a 
> fantastic commuter! $800
>
> Random *White Industries 26" wheel set*. I was going to use this on my 
> Rivendell Mountain Bike. Sold it... forgot about these. Gonna say they need 
> truing as I have never mounted them, so no way of knowing. $200 
>
> Phil 700c Wheelset with mismatched rims (just the color... one black, one 
> silver) $250
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Mark’s rack + Wald 137

[Mike Packard]

I prefer the included mounting hardware from Wald. It's solid, requires no 
rack, is easier to install (i.e. non-invasive to brakes, no diving boards & 
bending struts), supports just as much weight, and is way cheaper. I always 
thought the reason to go with the rack is that in theory it can look 
cleaner, but in practice I'm supposed to loop a strap over the handlebars 
anyway.  

mike in austin

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RE: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Bruce Herbitter]

Looks good! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: IsaacSent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:51 AMTo: RBW Owners BunchSubject: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv Hello,  This is my first post. I’ve been reading the Google group for a while and very much appreciate the information and photos of such wonderful bikes. This is my  A. Homer Hilsen newly set up with a Crust towel rack bar.  I took a short tour with the bikes set up with a Wavie bar and liked that as well but my other bikes all have flatfish bars so I'm giving the towel rack a shot and for the time being I'm done tweaking, it feels wonderful. Happy riding and best wishes to you all,Isaac (apologies if this comes through as a double post, I don't think it went through the first time)On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 4:41:14 PM UTC-7, Jay Lonner wrote:Attached find a pair of Rivs (and their owners) on a bright and chilly day - me and my trusty Hunq and my wife on her maiden Cheviot voyage, after I spent way too long building it up... She likes it!  Jay LonnerBellingam, WAOn Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/vUScDWCjWaA/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1c3429f7-8d33-4c07-b197-55813bddd5aa%40googlegroups.com. 



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[RBW] Re: Riv Gift Cards - spend now, hold onto, or buy more?

[Bill Lindsay]

The answer to most questions is: It depends.  For example:

If you have a handful of gift cards, adding up to $40 and you want to buy 
$300 worth of stuff, then the best thing is to place the order and use your 
gift cards.  

If you have a handful of gift cards adding up to $2000 and you want to buy 
$15 worth of stuff, then the best thing may be to spend the $15 and hold 
onto your gift cards for later

If you have a handful of gift cards adding up to $15 and you want to buy 
$25 worth of stuff, then the best thing would be to buy your $25 worth of 
stuff along with a $1000 gift card for later


Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 9:04:46 AM UTC-7, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:
>
> I have a handful of Riv gift cards from past holidays and birthdays that 
> I've been wanting to use. Now doesn't seem like the best time, though, 
> given the current financial and shelter-in-place circumstances. What's most 
> helpful for the company right? Placing an order, holding onto the cards, 
> buying more gift cards, etc.? What do you guys think?
>

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[RBW] Re: Crash Stories

[Scott Marriott]

I admittedly have at least one good crash a year, mostly simple commuting 
in the snow/ice crashes that might dent my helmet a bit, but don't really 
rise to the level of a good story. 

That said, one of my "best" bike crash stories is the traditional young 
kid, fast bike, big hill story.

It starts with me "borrowing" (kind of) my cousin's new Trek something 
(this was a 1980 or so model). 23 or 25mm tires, superlight (compared to my 
Mongoose BMX or Huffy 10 speed) and fast; so very fast...

I was out for a ride on this new bike when I saw an El Camino with a couple 
of tough, older high school students in it turn on the street behind me.  
Admittedly, I knew their reputation as troublemakers from the neighborhood, 
so I immediately thought I should bike quickly away from them. 
"Fortunately" I was at the top of hill when I started pedaling quickly down 
the street to a riverside bike trail that was only a block (and a cross 
street) away. 

As I started descending the hill I heard the El Camino rev it's engine so I 
pedaled even faster. I was easily going faster than I ever had (and likely 
ever will) on a bike.

Now that soon to be crossed cross-street I mentioned earlier was fairly 
untrafficed so I wasn't very worried about it when I started my sprint (I 
was also about 14 years old), but as I was about 3/4 of the way down the 
hill I notice a white panel van moving in my direction along this 
cross-street at a rate of speed that made it eminently clear that I was not 
going to be able to cross the street unimpeded by several thousands of 
pounds of very solid, if slightly rusty, American manufactured steel in the 
form of this van. (I should also mention here that I also had a stop sign, 
whereas the driver of the van did not.)

Thankfully, my early teenage brain did the proper risk-assessment and 
immediately jammed the brakes of the narrow tired Trek, causing me to go 
into (what was probably a pretty cool) skid.  Fortunately I was able to 
shed enough speed to not become a hood ornament of the van, but instead 
simply added some aftermarket body modifications to the side door of the 
van which I bounced off at about 20 miles per hour or so.

The next minute or so is a bit of a blur, but the couple that was in the 
van get out and immediately start gesturing to me, but not saying anything 
that I could hear outside of some mumbling.  My 14 year-old self thinks, 
"Oh Sh!!!T, I'm deaf".  Thankfully the woman who lives on the corner where 
the accident occurred had a daughter I grew up with (and was the lunch lady 
at my elementary school) so she immediately runs out of the house and 
starts yelling, "Scott, Scott are you OK!" so I get a sense that I'm not 
deaf at least, but in still in a lot of pain.  Also, the kids in the El 
Camino stopped to check on me and validate that I'm not deaf just dumb.  

The usual follow-up happens, police are called, ambulance comes, parents 
come, etc.. I have a separated shoulder, but no real damage.  I also find 
out that the couple who's van I damaged, were deaf / mute so I feel pretty 
bad then (and now) about injecting my idiocy on them. 

Worst of all, the bike was trashed. Fork, front wheel, and frame were all 
scrap and my cool bike access was gone until I purchased a used High Sierra 
in college.

Scott M. (Chicago - Hyde Park)

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Re: [RBW] Riv Girls: 3rd Annual Reunion

[Roberta]

Do I get extra points for it being the rear tire?  

Kudos to you for teaching bike mechanics and for the girls for learning. I 
didn’t know how to change a tube until I was an adult. 

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a 700 x 50 commuting tire

[Jon BALER]

I've had good luck commuting with tubed Soma Shikoro in 700x38 or 48 widths.

https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/shikoro-tr-700c-x-48mm

I've also used Donnely (formely clement) X'Plor MSO 700 X 50 on my gravel 
touring bike tubeless with good sucess.


On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 3:31:41 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> Shwalbe Big Ben.  I love them for commuting and touring.  
>
> Marc
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[RBW] Re: Crash Stories

[Drew Saunders]

My best "almost-crash" story:

When I was an undergrad at Stanford, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth 
and we did all our assignments on clay tablets (late '80's), I was biking 
to class one day and had an epic almost crash. For context, Stanford is a 
large campus, so there are a LOT of cyclists, most of whom have no clue how 
to ride with any sense of self preservation. I'm staff there now, and the 
kids are just as oblivious to the laws of physics and as utterly lacking in 
common sense as I was. 

Full of my lack of sense, I was biking no handed, and wanted to turn right, 
but the bike just in front of me, and to my right, didn't, so we bumped a 
bit. I grabbed my handlebars, we both maintained control, but we 
essentially split the difference and went a bit to the right, where there 
were four pedestrians walking towards us. They saw what we were doing and 
instantly split into two pairs to let us get through them, which we did, 
safely. One of the pedestrians crossed himself when he saw the almost-epic 
crash that didn't happen. Acting under the idea of "nobody hit the ground, 
so it wasn't really a crash," we both biked along our merry ways.

I've had a few real crashes. As a former "gentleman of substance" (max 
weight 125kg, height 176cm), I have had several frames and parts break. I 
was riding my Riv in 2012 when my left crank snapped, dumping me on the 
ground. A professional dog walker in his truck came by shortly after and 
offered to drive me home. The dogs were very happy to see someone, and 
thought my bike smelled great! I forgot to turn off Strava, not surprising 
since I was probably somewhat concussed, so it thinks I was able to ride my 
bike at some pretty impressive speeds! I am forever grateful to that kind 
stranger who got me home safely!

--Drew

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Re: [RBW] Riv Gift Cards - spend now, hold onto, or buy more?

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That’s also a great recommendation for your favorite restaurant. Buy gift 
certificates now to help them through these times, then enjoy it later when we 
can start being social again.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Matt Beecher  wrote:
> 
> Buying more is likely best for them.
> 
> Best regards,
> Matt B
> Oswego, IL
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[RBW] Riv Gift Cards - spend now, hold onto, or buy more?

[Matt Beecher]

Buying more is likely best for them.

Best regards,
Matt B
Oswego, IL

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Re: [RBW] Riv Girls: 3rd Annual Reunion

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Good thing your Clem L is over 6 feet 禮 禮 禮 禮 禮 禮 long so you Riv Girls can 
know how far to remain away from each other while posing for pictures!
Bonus points 1-0 for Roberta changing a tire; that will be activity 3 in my 
free Girls ‍ bike mechanics 藺  101 demonstration. 

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Riv Gift Cards - spend now, hold onto, or buy more?

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I have a handful of Riv gift cards from past holidays and birthdays that 
I've been wanting to use. Now doesn't seem like the best time, though, 
given the current financial and shelter-in-place circumstances. What's most 
helpful for the company right? Placing an order, holding onto the cards, 
buying more gift cards, etc.? What do you guys think?

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[RBW] Re: Mark’s rack + Wald 137

[Nathan Mattia]

Good to know, Justin.  I should have my butt in the saddle of the new build 
by Thursday.  Full report coming!

On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 5:21:04 PM UTC-4, Eric G@rs wrote:
>
> I’m looking to outfit my Homer with a front basket rather than rear and 
> considering Mark’s rack as it is seems small and light and ideally won’t 
> effect handling while unloaded. 95% of use when loaded would be carrying my 
> messenger bag with laptop for work or a single bag of groceries so not too 
> heavy. I’ve read through the archives a bit in this, but opinions change 
> with experience so I’m curious to hear from people that have used this 
> combination whether they like it or would recommend another option. 
>
> Eric G@rs (I prefer some degree of anonymity via google search hence the @ 
> in place of “a”) 
> SF

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[RBW] FS: Home Office Edition. Rivendell Custom, Atlantis, Hunqapillar, Wheels

[Karl]

Finally getting some dusty frames off the wall now that I have some time at 
home. Open to questions and offers. Prices do not include shipping. I will 
pack, and charge actual Bikeflights or ShipBikes delivery. Photos 
here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/axtohyjzEyJBC3fW9

*59cm Custom Road.* Will run 28's. Light scratches and one small ding on 
the top tube. I bought this last year, and found a coupled road about 2 
weeks later. Would make a fun go fast build. $1000

*Hunqapillar- 54cm* 700c Plenty of scratches... plenty of life left in her! 
Ride as is, or send to D for a sexy new paint job. $900

*Atlantis- 58cm* Beausage a plenty, but no dents or dings. Would make a 
fantastic commuter! $800

Random *White Industries 26" wheel set*. I was going to use this on my 
Rivendell Mountain Bike. Sold it... forgot about these. Gonna say they need 
truing as I have never mounted them, so no way of knowing. $200 

Phil 700c Wheelset with mismatched rims (just the color... one black, one 
silver) $250


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[RBW] Re: Mark’s rack + Wald 137

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I used that combo for years before purchasing a Riv Nitto Basket Rack. 
Highly recommend it. It's hard to overload it considering the space 
constraints of the medium wald. 

On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 5:21:04 PM UTC-4, Eric G@rs wrote:
>
> I’m looking to outfit my Homer with a front basket rather than rear and 
> considering Mark’s rack as it is seems small and light and ideally won’t 
> effect handling while unloaded. 95% of use when loaded would be carrying my 
> messenger bag with laptop for work or a single bag of groceries so not too 
> heavy. I’ve read through the archives a bit in this, but opinions change 
> with experience so I’m curious to hear from people that have used this 
> combination whether they like it or would recommend another option. 
>
> Eric G@rs (I prefer some degree of anonymity via google search hence the @ 
> in place of “a”) 
> SF

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Basket Rack Reports and Photos?

[Bill Lindsay]

The rack I would recommend vigorously for fork tips of that kind is the 
Nitto 27F.  Here's a link from Alex's:

https://alexscycle.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-front-campee-cross-27-for-700c-1

The ends are all steel.  They dogleg to find the under-the-fork-tip boss, 
and have an integrated spacer to clear the fork blade itself.  Use the 
included hardware to attach to the brake posts or if you have mid-fork 
braze-ons, use normal aluminum stays to get there.  The rack should be tall 
enough for just about any Atlantis appropriate tire.  The top platform is 
not as wide as a Riv Basket rack, but I've had no problems with a Wald 
basket strapped to it.  It feels a little excessive to buy detachable 
lowriders if you honestly never want to use them, but I prefer to think of 
it as extra versatility.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 6:00:18 PM UTC-7, maxcr wrote:
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> More and more clear that Bill is right - you need the top bosses to 
> properly mount this rack. Gorgeous setup :)

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