date:20200419

Also, I think the sealant gets between the bead and the rim and over time it 
hardens and the air doesn't seep through, whereas when you first mount the tire 
it still soft and air can seep out more easily. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

Country music? From a speaker out loud where other people can hear it??

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

I can't get anyone in my family to ride with me! About twice a year I can talk 
me son into coming along, but his "butt hurts" for 3 days afterwards. 
My wife is from the Philippine provinces where they believed that a girl riding 
a bicycle might lose her virginity so she never learned to ride and my daughter 
the former gymnast & figure skater has convinced herself that she can't ride a 
bike!
The silver lining of this cloud is I typically can ride when & for as long as I 
like. 
30 miles on a one speed Cruiser may sound like a lot, but my average speed was 
10+ mph; if I was on my Clementine for that loop my average speed would have 
been almost 1 mph slower. Why? No idea!

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[RBW] Re: Clempocalypse Build

Those stiff links!!  That is a beautiful bike!  Awesome build!  Thank you 
for showing it off

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:45:15 PM UTC-4, J Imler wrote:
>
> The shifting is sorted. Maybe it was a unfriendly stiff link that got 
> sorted out. I swapped the derailleur for a rapid rise Deore. Found some new 
> fun trails today! 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Ghost shifting on the Clem

Yeah, but this is the stock chain from Riv, so other than the frozen link, 
I haven't messed with it

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:21:01 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Clem Smith Jr.'s require a chain plus extra. So unless the chain came from 
> a spool of chain and was made exactly to length, it would have required 
> pinning on an additional section, and then using a master link. As Patrick 
> does, whenever I put back a rivet I check to make sure it protrudes the 
> same amount as the nearby rivets, then bend it a few times to make sure it 
> moves freely.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Bags

2020-04-19 Thread Kieran J

Hey Jim, sent you a PM on the panniers.

KJ


On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:11:34 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> *1. Swift Ozette Randonneur Bag - tall, black, and the Velo Orange rack 
> with decaleur to which to mount it. *
>
> Bag is $280 new, rack is $120 new. But mine are not new. I applied a patch 
> to the underside of the bag where it contacts the rack. It is unobtrusive, 
> but it's there. And I bent the tab on the rack to fit my bike. It can be 
> bent to fit your bike, but still once it's bent, it's not new.
>
> Price is $120 plus $10 shipping for the whole kit and caboodle. Here are 
> photos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aYDL1zfxA69vDvdt9
>
> *2. Set of two Swift Short-Stack Panniers, olive and coyote. *
>
> I mount the on front low riders, but they could also be mounted on a rear 
> rack. Good condition.
>
> Here's a product description: 
> https://www.evo.com/outlet/panniers/swift-industries-short-stack-set-of-two. 
> I don't think Swift makes these anymore.
>
> Here are photos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/K7dU1vaXTU21SftE6
>
> Price is $150 plus $10 shipping for the bags sold as a set - that is, you 
> get both bags for the price. 
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Ghost shifting on the Clem

2020-04-19 Thread Mark Roland

Clem Smith Jr.'s require a chain plus extra. So unless the chain came from 
a spool of chain and was made exactly to length, it would have required 
pinning on an additional section, and then using a master link. As Patrick 
does, whenever I put back a rivet I check to make sure it protrudes the 
same amount as the nearby rivets, then bend it a few times to make sure it 
moves freely.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:30:50 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Wayne
>
> was the 'stiff link' a link you inserted the pin into or was it just a 
> random pin on the chain??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Ghost shifting on the Clem



On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:30:50 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Wayne
>
> was the 'stiff link' a link you inserted the pin into or was it just a 
> random pin on the chain??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>


Just a random pin, as far as I can figure.  I've never had that chain 
apart.  That's how I received it



 

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Re: [RBW] Camping bikes

2020-04-19 Thread John Blish

CrazyGuyOnABike.com.  Complete with hundreds of fotos.  That’s a touring
site but it takes almost as much stuff on the bike for a night or two as it
does for a week or two; S24HO is kind of an exception.  Where you are
headed will tell you how much food and water you must carry and what will
already be there when you arrive.

Good luck.

-jb

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 7:41 PM J L  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any
> sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the
> house, do one or two overnights, and ride home.
>
> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a
> backpack or bike basket and going.
>
> Jason
> SF, CA
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[RBW] Camping bikes

2020-04-19 Thread J L

Hello all,

I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any sage 
advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the house, do 
one or two overnights, and ride home.

Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a backpack or 
bike basket and going. 

Jason
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: Ghost shifting on the Clem

2020-04-19 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch

Wayne

was the 'stiff link' a link you inserted the pin into or was it just a 
random pin on the chain??

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-19 Thread Roberta

Everyone's stories and pictures are so inspiring!  Alas, I have no great ones, 
other that I get in 4-5, sometimes 6, rides in per week, more than I was doing 
before our current situation.  Working from home and not commuting or working 
until dark has freed up 2-3 hours of my day.  I didn't feel like a ride 
yesterday,  so I went for a walk instead.  

Inspired by Paul in Dallas' ride to the grocery store the other day, I hopped 
on my She-Devil, the perfect in - town bike, and rode to a hardware store 
across town, 4 miles RT.  The basket and net on the back was a gift of AHH 
owner who lived near me, moved to the UK, and offered it on the list.  I love 
it. 

Once I got home, that bike went into my breezeway and I took Joe Appaloosa for 
a nice 12 mile ride.  Came home smiling.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:19:17 AM UTC-4, truegolden wrote:
> Pic from an earlier grocery run during this 'crisis'.
> 
> 
> I've made up a bit for missed days with multiple rides on several days.
> 
> 
> Thursday,  Friday,  and Saturday I got in 60 miles total. 
> My wife joined me for about half of that.
> 
> 
> I have a goal of at least 200 for the month.
> 
> 
> We are amazed at all the families getting out and about for exercise, 
> fighting 'cabin fever, like us I guess.
> 
> 
> One of my biggest frustrations is having to keep my 'distance ' from my 10 
> month old granddaughter!
> 
> 
> That's pretty minor compared to many folks sore trials but still very 
> frustrating for me.
> 
> 
> Paul in Dallas

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[RBW] Re: FS -- New (~10 miles) Paul Mini Moto Set

2020-04-19 Thread John H.

sold

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:17:03 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
>
> Sale pending...
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:01:11 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Bunch -- Up for sale is a set (sans brake pads) of barely used (~10 
>> miles) Silver anodized Paul MiniMotos. These are really great brakes, but 
>> unfortunately I need something with a little more clearance. I'm asking 
>> 240$ shipped.
>>
>> To be clear, I'm offering all the included hardware, hangers, noodles and 
>> brake-arms, but no brake pads.
>>
>> I'll put up pictures later this evening.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John 
>> Cambridge
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Ghost shifting on the Clem

I feel your pain. I've suffered from that very elusive problem many times,
and gave forth a great deal of cussing before I wised up to the cause. The
problem is all the worse in that sometimes the chain will track fine in the
stand, and only start skipping when torque is applied. I took to rotating
the chain backward through my fingers to find the stiff link by feel.

Now that I use masterlinks almost exclusively, I don't have to worry, and
when I do reinstall a pin, I take proactive care to loosen the link when I
install the chain.

The stiff link ranks with punctures caused by slipping rim tape as the top
frustraters of bike maintenance.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 1:56 PM Wayne Naha  wrote:

> I should have posted this a while ago, when I figured this out, but that
> clearly didn't happen.  Now with lots of time on my hands, why not?  I had
> posted a coupe of times about the shifting problems the Clem was having.
> Ghost shifting, never wanting to settle down on a cog, very sensitive to
> the slightest input from the shifter, etc.  At first, I blamed myself.  The
> last time I had friction shifted was back when five cogs in the rear were
> standard.  I figured that I just wasn't doing it right.  I had tightened
> the screw on the hex bolt on the stock shifters to prevent them from
> slipping.  This reduced the problem some, but did not eliminate it.  For
> some time, I rode the Clem as a single speed, since when I would finally
> get the drive train happy, I never wanted to disturb it again.  This was,
> of course, unsatisfactory.  And even though I had been told that the rear
> derailer was not the cause of this problem, I began giving the wonky
> looking Claris RD the stink eye.  Finally, I decided to replace it.  Even
> though it could not be the cause of the problem.  I did have what I thought
> was a sexier looking Deore LX RD in my parts bin.  If I was doomed to have
> a chattering drive train, it would be with a nicer RD.  But it was in the
> process of changing out the RD that the root cause of my problem was
> revealed.  For as I am adjusting the travel of the derailer, and running
> the chain through, lo and behold I discover there is a frozen link in the
> chain!
> After a few minutes of flexing the chain, the frozen link is freed, and I
> finish the install.  Now, when I go for the test ride, my Clem is
> blissfully silent!  Shifting is a breeze!  I can have any gear I want!
> Now, some of you old hands at bike maintenance are probably saying to
> yourselves, "Of course, you big dummy!  You should have checked that right
> away!"  Probably true, but I never expected this on a new chain.  I've only
> seen this on old, beat, rusty chains.  Anyway, I have since apologized to
> the Claris for wronging it in my heart, but it's still not going back on my
> Clem.  The Deore remains completely better looking.
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Re: [RBW] Frame color!

The blue and the 2 greens are pretty. I have in mind a blue that is very
slightly darker; though who can tell when I look with my eyes at a color on
a screen. But when I had my Herse powdercoated, the blue seemed slightly
more cerulean and had a wonderful "liquid" appearance. As for the greens, I
prefer -- for "real" greens and not sage green -- a darker shade the "road
bike for dirt" is British racing green, but I also like that industrial
green that someone suggested.

Patrick Moore, just back from a nice bosque pavement + ditchbank ride, but
who forgot to take photos.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Frame color!

Purty!

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 2:23 PM John Philip  wrote:

> Here's Quickbeam green and a couple of blues.
>
> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 10:56:02 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Chauncey just texted me saying that the powder coater is out of the
>> near-match to the "sage green" that Joe Bell used for my 2003 custom --
>> frame later modified by Chauncey with the color in the photo below.
>>
>> I've asked him to see if the coater can order more, but while I wait on
>> tenterhooks (is that metaphor appropriately applied? Weren't tenterhooks
>> used for processing wool?), I ask y'all: what color would you choose for a
>> new road frame to be built with color matched racks, silver VO fenders, and
>> silver components? -- oh, and I like red accents: bar tape and panniers.
>>
>> Orange won't do b/c I like red, red won't do b/c I don't like red frames;
>> no black or white -- bleh! I have Ford Blue already -- beautiful! -- and
>> Forest Green. No turquoise or pink. Yellow, blech.
>>
>> Should be a color that is readily available in touch up quantities.
>>
>> Tell me what you think so that I can complain about your suggestion.
>>
>> Patrick "the *only* color for a Riv with fenders is Sage Green" Moore
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-19 Thread Dave Redmon

It looks like maybe you've added short, metal grips extending forward, no?
Like what you see welded-in-place on VO Crazy Bars?

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 4:48 PM masmojo  wrote:

> Dave, the Evasion has a fairly long top tube, so especially with a
> trekking type handlebar you need a shortish stem. This is a 60mm FUNN stem
> ( yeah, I  never heard of them either); I think it's actually a Downhill
> stem?
> The handlebars are SOMA Eagle bars, they were on sale really cheap & more
> or less what I was looking  for so it was worth a gamble! :-) I  like them
> in a general sense, but neither extension for or aft is long enough in my
> opinion AND they are HEAVY. I really love the Evasion, but you really can
> go with just about any bar/stem concert and be happy. All the builds I have
> seen are drop bars, but my set up works really good and I think an
> Albatross set up would be great and I would love an Albastash on this as
> well.
>
> "Masmojo, what can you tell us about your handlebar and stem arrangement
> in the photo of your excursion to the post office?
>
> Dave in Kansas"
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[RBW] FOUND: Riv Reader #34

2020-04-19 Thread Birdman

Found! Thanks all

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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Bags

Ozette rando bag and rack sold.

short stack panniers still for sale.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

"30 miles on a single speed BMX bike???  Well, you earned that Thai food."

Some people like to ride bikes. And some people are CRAZY 浪

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-19 Thread Leah Peterson

30 miles on a single speed BMX bike???  Well, you earned that Thai food.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2020, at 2:51 PM, masmojo  wrote:
> 
> 30 miles today & Thai food on a single speed BMX cruiser.
> 
> https://ridewithgps.com/trips/47438123
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Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

2020-04-19 Thread Leah Peterson

Now THAT’S a grocery run. Nice work! Very cool that your wife joined you for 30 
miles - I had to trick my husband into 7 miles AND he has an ebike. Where did 
you go for 60 miles and how long did it take?

200 miles for the month is awesome. I rarely hit that number. 

I am also amazed at the numbers of bikes out on the roads and trails around 
here. Really cool to see, also, I’m learning to share. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2020, at 7:19 AM, in Dallas nick  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <20200419_090127.jpg>
> 
> Pic from an earlier grocery run during this 'crisis'.
> 
> I've made up a bit for missed days with multiple rides on several days.
> 
> Thursday,  Friday,  and Saturday I got in 60 miles total. 
> My wife joined me for about half of that.
> 
> I have a goal of at least 200 for the month.
> 
> We are amazed at all the families getting out and about for exercise, 
> fighting 'cabin fever, like us I guess.
> 
> One of my biggest frustrations is having to keep my 'distance ' from my 10 
> month old granddaughter!
> 
> That's pretty minor compared to many folks sore trials but still very 
> frustrating for me.
> 
> Paul in Dallas
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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA Shorts, large, old style

black shorts sold. olive shorts still available. $38 shipped.

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

30 miles today & Thai food on a single speed BMX cruiser.

https://ridewithgps.com/trips/47438123

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Re: [RBW] Re: 30 Days of Biking!

Dave, the Evasion has a fairly long top tube, so especially with a trekking 
type handlebar you need a shortish stem. This is a 60mm FUNN stem ( yeah, I  
never heard of them either); I think it's actually a Downhill stem?
The handlebars are SOMA Eagle bars, they were on sale really cheap & more or 
less what I was looking  for so it was worth a gamble! :-) I  like them in a 
general sense, but neither extension for or aft is long enough in my opinion 
AND they are HEAVY. I really love the Evasion, but you really can go with just 
about any bar/stem concert and be happy. All the builds I have seen are drop 
bars, but my set up works really good and I think an Albatross set up would be 
great and I would love an Albastash on this as well.

"Masmojo, what can you tell us about your handlebar and stem arrangement in the 
photo of your excursion to the post office?  

Dave in Kansas"

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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Bags

Steven, the Ozette Randonneur Bag's volume is 15.5L. It's measurements are 
11.75 inches high, 11 inches wide, 7.5. inches deep

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[RBW] Re: FS: Outershell Adventure - Wald 137 Basket Bag

sold.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Swift Bags

2020-04-19 Thread Steven Sweedler

Jim, what are the dimensions of the bag, especially the height. Thanks,
Steve

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 4:11 PM Jim S.  wrote:

> *1. Swift Ozette Randonneur Bag - tall, black, and the Velo Orange rack
> with decaleur to which to mount it. *
>
> Bag is $280 new, rack is $120 new. But mine are not new. I applied a patch
> to the underside of the bag where it contacts the rack. It is unobtrusive,
> but it's there. And I bent the tab on the rack to fit my bike. It can be
> bent to fit your bike, but still once it's bent, it's not new.
>
> Price is $120 plus $10 shipping for the whole kit and caboodle. Here are
> photos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/aYDL1zfxA69vDvdt9
>
> *2. Set of two Swift Short-Stack Panniers, olive and coyote. *
>
> I mount the on front low riders, but they could also be mounted on a rear
> rack. Good condition.
>
> Here's a product description:
> https://www.evo.com/outlet/panniers/swift-industries-short-stack-set-of-two.
> I don't think Swift makes these anymore.
>
> Here are photos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/K7dU1vaXTU21SftE6
>
> Price is $150 plus $10 shipping for the bags sold as a set - that is, you
> get both bags for the price.
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread Brian Campbell

My Legolas painted "Redwood" green.


My AHHH painted "Grilver"




On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 5:05:07 PM UTC-4, S wrote:
>
> The Rivendell Redwood was painted an interesting green, sort of a darker 
> sage:
>
> https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/rivendell-redwood-21911
>
> On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:56:02 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Chauncey just texted me saying that the powder coater is out of the 
>> near-match to the "sage green" that Joe Bell used for my 2003 custom -- 
>> frame later modified by Chauncey with the color in the photo below.
>>
>> I've asked him to see if the coater can order more, but while I wait on 
>> tenterhooks (is that metaphor appropriately applied? Weren't tenterhooks 
>> used for processing wool?), I ask y'all: what color would you choose for a 
>> new road frame to be built with color matched racks, silver VO fenders, and 
>> silver components? -- oh, and I like red accents: bar tape and panniers.
>>
>> Orange won't do b/c I like red, red won't do b/c I don't like red frames; 
>> no black or white -- bleh! I have Ford Blue already -- beautiful! -- and 
>> Forest Green. No turquoise or pink. Yellow, blech. 
>>
>> Should be a color that is readily available in touch up quantities.
>>
>> Tell me what you think so that I can complain about your suggestion.
>>
>> Patrick "the *only* color for a Riv with fenders is Sage Green" Moore
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread S

The Rivendell Redwood was painted an interesting green, sort of a darker 
sage:

https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/rivendell-redwood-21911

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:56:02 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Chauncey just texted me saying that the powder coater is out of the 
> near-match to the "sage green" that Joe Bell used for my 2003 custom -- 
> frame later modified by Chauncey with the color in the photo below.
>
> I've asked him to see if the coater can order more, but while I wait on 
> tenterhooks (is that metaphor appropriately applied? Weren't tenterhooks 
> used for processing wool?), I ask y'all: what color would you choose for a 
> new road frame to be built with color matched racks, silver VO fenders, and 
> silver components? -- oh, and I like red accents: bar tape and panniers.
>
> Orange won't do b/c I like red, red won't do b/c I don't like red frames; 
> no black or white -- bleh! I have Ford Blue already -- beautiful! -- and 
> Forest Green. No turquoise or pink. Yellow, blech. 
>
> Should be a color that is readily available in touch up quantities.
>
> Tell me what you think so that I can complain about your suggestion.
>
> Patrick "the *only* color for a Riv with fenders is Sage Green" Moore
>
> -- 
>
> ---
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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Billie Bar

2020-04-19 Thread Collin A

Found one!

Enjoy your Sunday,
Collin

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 8:17:48 AM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> Looks like Riv is sold out, so anybody holding onto one of these and 
> looking to part with them? Anybody know any dealers that have them in stock 
> as well? Willing to buy, but also trade!
>
> Tradeables:
>
>- MAP AHEARNE 610 bar
>- Simworks fun3 bar
>- Nitto Technomic 11 or 12 cm stem
>
> Thanks!
> Collin in Sac
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Re: [RBW] Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread Clayton Scott

That blue is great. Also like grey with tinge of green like the the ocean on a 
stormy day.

Clayton Scott
HbG, CA

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[RBW] Ghost shifting on the Clem

Ah yes, this can certainly be an issue at the quick-link on a new chain. I 
don't know if that was where your problem was, but I recently installed a new 
8-speed KMC chain on my Frank Jones and it took a couple reconnects and 
bendings to free it up. 

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Re: [RBW] Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread somervillebikes

If you like Herse blue, you might like RAL6034, the powder coat color I 
chose for this bike:




Anton

velolumino.com


On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 2:33:15 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jason. I did find the color. It's not bad, but not to my taste.
>
> The copper is interesting, as is that industrial green which I do like and 
> which I will add to my short list. For some reason I do like green.
>
> Rose, pretty but not for me. Custard: again, not bad but not my thing.
>
> Funny how particular one's preferences are for frame colors. I am far less 
> picky about the color of my car or my shirts, tho' I do have preferences.
>
> Again, I do think glossy black looks nice, but (1) it somehow looks to 
> "formal", even while looking nice, and (2) it shows dust too easily -- I 
> ride in a dusty environment.
>
> In order of preference -- and see! This exercise did help me choose! -- 
> Sage Green, with ~Herse Blue and Industrial Green tied for second place.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:03 AM Jason Fuller  > wrote:
>
>> Myself, I'd probably want to paint it after a classic bike I've been 
>> inspired by (Riv or not) so the colour has context, rather than just one I 
>> like the look of.
>>
>> But what about this vintage machinery green:
>> https://images.app.goo.gl/NP2K6S87MsJrpdpq6
>> (Hope that works)
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[RBW] Re: Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread John Philip

Here's Quickbeam green and a couple of blues. 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 10:56:02 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Chauncey just texted me saying that the powder coater is out of the 
> near-match to the "sage green" that Joe Bell used for my 2003 custom -- 
> frame later modified by Chauncey with the color in the photo below.
>
> I've asked him to see if the coater can order more, but while I wait on 
> tenterhooks (is that metaphor appropriately applied? Weren't tenterhooks 
> used for processing wool?), I ask y'all: what color would you choose for a 
> new road frame to be built with color matched racks, silver VO fenders, and 
> silver components? -- oh, and I like red accents: bar tape and panniers.
>
> Orange won't do b/c I like red, red won't do b/c I don't like red frames; 
> no black or white -- bleh! I have Ford Blue already -- beautiful! -- and 
> Forest Green. No turquoise or pink. Yellow, blech. 
>
> Should be a color that is readily available in touch up quantities.
>
> Tell me what you think so that I can complain about your suggestion.
>
> Patrick "the *only* color for a Riv with fenders is Sage Green" Moore
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] FS: Swift Bags

*1. Swift Ozette Randonneur Bag - tall, black, and the Velo Orange rack 
with decaleur to which to mount it. *

Bag is $280 new, rack is $120 new. But mine are not new. I applied a patch 
to the underside of the bag where it contacts the rack. It is unobtrusive, 
but it's there. And I bent the tab on the rack to fit my bike. It can be 
bent to fit your bike, but still once it's bent, it's not new.

Price is $120 plus $10 shipping for the whole kit and caboodle. Here are 
photos:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/aYDL1zfxA69vDvdt9

*2. Set of two Swift Short-Stack Panniers, olive and coyote. *

I mount the on front low riders, but they could also be mounted on a rear 
rack. Good condition.

Here's a product description: 
https://www.evo.com/outlet/panniers/swift-industries-short-stack-set-of-two. 
I don't think Swift makes these anymore.

Here are photos:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/K7dU1vaXTU21SftE6

Price is $150 plus $10 shipping for the bags sold as a set - that is, you 
get both bags for the price. 





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[RBW] Re: beautifying beausage: caring for worn paint

2020-04-19 Thread Matthew P

Excellent George.  
Those sound like great suggestions for different types of paint wear.  
If I can't get a small amount of helicopter tape (interested to look this 
up) for a decent price, I'll contact you.
Thank you.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:01:28 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> There was a blog post along similar lines a few months ago where a rider 
> had received a brand new frame that had scratches on the top tube and he 
> wanted to know the best way to remove them.  He ultimately took the frame 
> to an auto detailer (a good idea if you have no experience using various 
> rubbing or polishing compounds!)  However, one suggestion that was posted 
> was to use Mequiar's Ultimate Compound to rescue the paint.  I bought some 
> of this and it's a great suggestion.  But if the right chain stay, which 
> seems to be your biggest issue, is too pitted up from chain slap marks, you 
> may have to repaint or at least touch it up.  When you've finally decided 
> what you want to do with that, then cover it with "helicopter tape" to 
> protect it from future damage.  If you need a piece of that stuff to finish 
> the job, let me know.  I have plenty of extra leftover from my application 
> and I'd be glad to send you some of it.
>
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:23:30 PM UTC-5, Matthew P wrote:
>>
>> While on the topic of paint, what does one do, other than just enjoy it, 
>> when the bike's paint has "plenty of beausage"?
>>
>> I'm building an Atlantis whose paint has some wear.  The areas where the 
>> chain ate the paint are really the problem, although perhaps my approach 
>> helps protect those places.
>>
>> There are spots on this frame where it looks like you can see the 
>> clearcoat separate from the paint underneath.  I'd just like for those 
>> parts to blend a little better and give the paint an overall cleaner look, 
>> just "smooth things out" if possible.  Not repaint.  Not even touch it up 
>> (although I am interested in getting some Atlantis Russian submarine 
>> interior green touch up paint, if the people in the know see this).
>>
>> I'm thinking I'll try waxing it, which would at least protect the paint & 
>> metal some, if it doesn't make it look better.  
>>
>> I assume a rubbing compound would be too much, would strip away too much 
>> clear coat and paint.
>>
>> Would a buffing compound be appropriate?
>>
>> I have little experience with paint care, clearly.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: beautifying beausage: caring for worn paint

2020-04-19 Thread George Schick

There was a blog post along similar lines a few months ago where a rider 
had received a brand new frame that had scratches on the top tube and he 
wanted to know the best way to remove them.  He ultimately took the frame 
to an auto detailer (a good idea if you have no experience using various 
rubbing or polishing compounds!)  However, one suggestion that was posted 
was to use Mequiar's Ultimate Compound to rescue the paint.  I bought some 
of this and it's a great suggestion.  But if the right chain stay, which 
seems to be your biggest issue, is too pitted up from chain slap marks, you 
may have to repaint or at least touch it up.  When you've finally decided 
what you want to do with that, then cover it with "helicopter tape" to 
protect it from future damage.  If you need a piece of that stuff to finish 
the job, let me know.  I have plenty of extra leftover from my application 
and I'd be glad to send you some of it.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 1:23:30 PM UTC-5, Matthew P wrote:
>
> While on the topic of paint, what does one do, other than just enjoy it, 
> when the bike's paint has "plenty of beausage"?
>
> I'm building an Atlantis whose paint has some wear.  The areas where the 
> chain ate the paint are really the problem, although perhaps my approach 
> helps protect those places.
>
> There are spots on this frame where it looks like you can see the 
> clearcoat separate from the paint underneath.  I'd just like for those 
> parts to blend a little better and give the paint an overall cleaner look, 
> just "smooth things out" if possible.  Not repaint.  Not even touch it up 
> (although I am interested in getting some Atlantis Russian submarine 
> interior green touch up paint, if the people in the know see this).
>
> I'm thinking I'll try waxing it, which would at least protect the paint & 
> metal some, if it doesn't make it look better.  
>
> I assume a rubbing compound would be too much, would strip away too much 
> clear coat and paint.
>
> Would a buffing compound be appropriate?
>
> I have little experience with paint care, clearly.
>
> Thanks.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>

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[RBW] Ghost shifting on the Clem

2020-04-19 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles

I should have posted this a while ago, when I figured this out, but that
clearly didn't happen. Now with lots of time on my hands, why not? I had
posted a coupe of times about the shifting problems the Clem was having.
Ghost shifting, never wanting to settle down on a cog, very sensitive to
the slightest input from the shifter, etc. At first, I blamed myself. The
last time I had friction shifted was back when five cogs in the rear were
standard. I figured that I just wasn't doing it right. I had tightened
the screw on the hex bolt on the stock shifters to prevent them from
slipping. This reduced the problem some, but did not eliminate it. For
some time, I rode the Clem as a single speed, since when I would finally
get the drive train happy, I never wanted to disturb it again. This was,
of course, unsatisfactory. And even though I had been told that the rear
derailer was not the cause of this problem, I began giving the wonky
looking Claris RD the stink eye. Finally, I decided to replace it. Even
though it could not be the cause of the problem. I did have what I thought
was a sexier looking Deore LX RD in my parts bin. If I was doomed to have
a chattering drive train, it would be with a nicer RD. But it was in the
process of changing out the RD that the root cause of my problem was
revealed. For as I am adjusting the travel of the derailer, and running
the chain through, lo and behold I discover there is a frozen link in the
chain!
After a few minutes of flexing the chain, the frozen link is freed, and I
finish the install. Now, when I go for the test ride, my Clem is
blissfully silent! Shifting is a breeze! I can have any gear I want!
Now, some of you old hands at bike maintenance are probably saying to
yourselves, "Of course, you big dummy! You should have checked that right
away!" Probably true, but I never expected this on a new chain. I've only
seen this on old, beat, rusty chains. Anyway, I have since apologized to
the Claris for wronging it in my heart, but it's still not going back on my
Clem. The Deore remains completely better looking.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 62 Sam, 58 Sam, Rosco Babys and some Surly Framesets

62CM Sam is sold...
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[RBW] FS: Outershell Adventure - Wald 137 Basket Bag

Color is a dark gray - I'd say it's neutral. Goes with anything.


Here's the product description:
https://www.outershelladventure.com/shop/137-basket-bag


Here's a review from Path Less Pedaled:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8LXQAgAyFA


My bag is used - but no holes or defects. Here are photos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8LXQAgAyFA


$75 plus $15 shipping. 

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[RBW] Re: Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread S

That's very close to the color of the SimpleOne. 

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:03:04 AM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Myself, I'd probably want to paint it after a classic bike I've been 
> inspired by (Riv or not) so the colour has context, rather than just one I 
> like the look of.
>
> But what about this vintage machinery green:
> https://images.app.goo.gl/NP2K6S87MsJrpdpq6
> (Hope that works)
>
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Re: [RBW] Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread Steve Palincsar




On 4/19/20 2:32 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

Thanks, Jason. I did find the color. It's not bad, but not to my taste.

The copper is interesting, as is that industrial green which I do like 
and which I will add to my short list. For some reason I do like green.


Rose, pretty but not for me. Custard: again, not bad but not my thing.

Funny how particular one's preferences are for frame colors. I am far 
less picky about the color of my car or my shirts, tho' I do have 
preferences.


Again, I do think glossy black looks nice, but (1) it somehow looks to 
"formal", even while looking nice, and (2) it shows dust too easily -- 
I ride in a dusty environment.


In order of preference -- and see! This exercise did help me choose! 
-- Sage Green, with ~Herse Blue and Industrial Green tied for second 
place.



Now you know what the next two bikes are going to look like!


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Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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[RBW] Re: St. Joe's, MI to Chicago route

I rode part of this route, Evanston to Michigan City, en route to South 
Bend, way back in 1991! I can't believe it's been that long.

(I had a black and orange Cannondale mountain bike - I could have purchased 
a Bridgestone and I have no idea why I didn't. I thought Cannondales were 
so cool when I was 20.)

Were I to undertake this ride today, I'd just use the google map route for 
bicycle. I just reviewed the suggested route. It's not awful. And there's 
some nice parts, like the ride through Indiana Dunes.

The most direct route would be through Gary, which I think is probably 
undesirable. I still remember my ride through Gary - I had no maps. I went 
through Gary because I was navigating by following the lake. There were 
four ferocious junkyard dogs that came barreling at me from various 
directions as I made my way through town. For those terrifying moments, I 
became a very strong rider.

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 10:17:42 AM UTC-5, Tom Palmer wrote:
>
> I second the request. I have been planning a ride around Lake Michigan in 
> the fall and this has been the largest concern. Crazy Guy on Bike has 
> several stories about it but nothing obvious to me for the southern end of 
> the lake,
>
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI
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[RBW] beautifying beausage: caring for worn paint

I don't know anything about paint either, but here's Jim's touch-up page. 
Atlantis is at the top.
 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/color.html

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Re: [RBW] Frame color!

Thanks, Jason. I did find the color. It's not bad, but not to my taste.

The copper is interesting, as is that industrial green which I do like and
which I will add to my short list. For some reason I do like green.

Rose, pretty but not for me. Custard: again, not bad but not my thing.

Funny how particular one's preferences are for frame colors. I am far less
picky about the color of my car or my shirts, tho' I do have preferences.

Again, I do think glossy black looks nice, but (1) it somehow looks to
"formal", even while looking nice, and (2) it shows dust too easily -- I
ride in a dusty environment.

In order of preference -- and see! This exercise did help me choose! --
Sage Green, with ~Herse Blue and Industrial Green tied for second place.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:03 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> Myself, I'd probably want to paint it after a classic bike I've been
> inspired by (Riv or not) so the colour has context, rather than just one I
> like the look of.
>
> But what about this vintage machinery green:
> https://images.app.goo.gl/NP2K6S87MsJrpdpq6
> (Hope that works)
>
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[RBW] beautifying beausage: caring for worn paint

2020-04-19 Thread Matthew P

While on the topic of paint, what does one do, other than just enjoy it, 
when the bike's paint has "plenty of beausage"?

I'm building an Atlantis whose paint has some wear.  The areas where the 
chain ate the paint are really the problem, although perhaps my approach 
helps protect those places.

There are spots on this frame where it looks like you can see the clearcoat 
separate from the paint underneath.  I'd just like for those parts to blend 
a little better and give the paint an overall cleaner look, just "smooth 
things out" if possible.  Not repaint.  Not even touch it up (although I am 
interested in getting some Atlantis Russian submarine interior green touch 
up paint, if the people in the know see this).

I'm thinking I'll try waxing it, which would at least protect the paint & 
metal some, if it doesn't make it look better.  

I assume a rubbing compound would be too much, would strip away too much 
clear coat and paint.

Would a buffing compound be appropriate?

I have little experience with paint care, clearly.

Thanks.
-Matthew
San Diego

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[RBW] Re: Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread Matthew P

I'll gush...

I agree about the classy classic black with white details. Semigloss even 
better.  Those Rivs with can hang out with the classics.

There was a Rosco Bubbe that had something like a flat sage green that I 
liked a lot.  The flat/matte finish is like the gray that comes to mind 
when you all say battleship gray.
I'm thinking of a gray that is so matte that its perhaps inconsistent, 
almost sandy, like some parts are showing a coating of dried sea spray.

I absolutely love the butterscotch color that went on some of the Clems.  I 
stare at a small, older Mercedes in that color a few blocks away...and I'm 
not even a car guy!

I saw a Bombadil in something like a copper.  I think there's one in a Riv 
YouTube video.  Lovely.

But just last week I happened upon stonehog.com and found pics of Brian 
Hanson's Homer in something like "light new penny copper" and that might be 
my favorite paint of all time.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/46788241224/in/photostream/

-Matthew
San Diego

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:03:04 AM UTC-7, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Myself, I'd probably want to paint it after a classic bike I've been 
> inspired by (Riv or not) so the colour has context, rather than just one I 
> like the look of.
>
> But what about this vintage machinery green:
> https://images.app.goo.gl/NP2K6S87MsJrpdpq6
> (Hope that works)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Nuts and Bolts

2020-04-19 Thread John Rinker

Love the word 'knarp'. Is that in the same class as widget and thingamajig?


On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 2:38:12 PM UTC-7, somervillebikes wrote:
>
> I'm by no means OCD but I do keep my stuff fairly organized. The labels 
> aren't something I'd do myself, but one day my kid needed something to do 
> and was using the label maker to write notes all over the house, so I 
> figured why not harness that into something that could benefit me as well? 
> It was one way of getting my daughter to hang out in the basement with me. 
> For nuts/bolts/washers, I have three drawers, one for 6mm "stuff", one for 
> 5mm, and one for 4mm.  All other bolts/washers/nuts that don't fall into 
> those sizes is in random tupperware containers like you, Jim.
>
> Anton
> velolumino.com
>
>
> [image: Label1.jpg]
>
>
> [image: Label2.jpg]
>
>
> [image: Label3.jpg]
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] FS: MUSA Shorts, large, old style

One is black, one is olive green.

$38 each, shipped, or $68 for both, shipped.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/cVsFgXZxPbADepps5

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[RBW] FS: Brooks C17 saddle, brown

Very very slight use. The rails show that it has been mounted.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iqGeUMQY32Pd9abr8

$78 plus $10 shipping.

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[RBW] Frame color!

2020-04-19 Thread Jason Fuller

Myself, I'd probably want to paint it after a classic bike I've been inspired 
by (Riv or not) so the colour has context, rather than just one I like the look 
of.

But what about this vintage machinery green:
https://images.app.goo.gl/NP2K6S87MsJrpdpq6
(Hope that works)

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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Compass Naches Pass tires, 26 x 1.8, standard casing.