Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[ted]

So Bill, are those latex tubbed, and are you cutting em open and patching when 
you get flats?

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[ted]

Yes but roadies are fools. The best moderate width tires give a nice ride but 
I’ve never ridden a 23mm clincher that rides near as well as a good hand made 
racing sew up. Never got a pinch flat on a sew up either.
I think the European pros still race on tubulars. Of course their employers pay 
for the gear, and their mechanics do the maintenance.

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joe Bernard]

It's a prototype which was explained in the newsletter but I only included the 
picture in this thread. The bike has the wrong front brake, production will be 
v-brakes. 

I don't know what predicated 700C, but my wild guess/conspiracy is the 650B 
wheelset market has been overwhelmed by 27.5 disc and the future for nice 
rim-brake rims in that size is not looking great. Rim-brake 700C road and 
touring bikes are still prevalent so maybe this is an anticipatory move. Or 
Grant just wanted that size this time, I'm just guessing! 路 

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Bill Schairer]

I love the Veloflex Vlaanderen!  At 27mm, IMO, they ride better than a 38mm, 
“supple” clincher.  I’m an old fart, flat phobe who had always been intimidated 
by sew-ups.  I finally decided I had to try them before I died and am I glad I 
did.  I’m not an experience sew-up retrogrouch.  I’m brand new (a little over a 
year) to them and a fan. 

Bill S

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Drw]

Are we looking at a side pull front and v rear? Sorry just scanned the previous 
posts. Love the look. Very pleased with what I hope will be full v/canti brakes.

Wondering about 700c on a 55cm frame. I know it’s very common place and I’ve 
had a 54cm riv with 700c wheels but it seems like a step back from the 
“wheelsize
Should match the bike size” thing they’ve been doing (that I really like)

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Steve Palincsar]

Vittoria Corsa Speed G+ Tubular Tire | R Cycles

Cross section of a tubular (aka "sew-up") tire.  Note tube in green.


On 4/24/20 9:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

Bill, does tubular mean tubeless? If so, do the #RivSisters get to feel the 
tiniest swell of pride for maybe-possibly-theoretically influencing you, a 
resident Riv expert? I think we’re up to 3 or 4 of us women making the tubeless 
conversion in the last couple of weeks. I’m joking about our influence, but I 
do think this is a cool trend and I’m happy to see you and hopefully more folks 
trying Rivendells tubeless. Please let us know how tubeless is working out for 
you and any pros and cons you note on your rides.

At any rate, the bike looks lovely and also fast.
Leah


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[RBW] Fender Ideas

[Max S]

I’ve had decent luck with the narrow Esge/SKS models that maximize the space 
available for the tire. People also like the PDW metal fenders. None of those 
have a rolled edge, which does help minimize spray, but also robs a 
couple-three mm of clearance for tire on either side. 

- Max “I want fenders but also don’t want fenders on my bikes” in A2

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[RBW] Fender Ideas

[Dave Grossman]

I'm looking to add fenders to my Milwaukee Orange One single speed.  I have 
caliper brakes front and rear and can allegedly clear a 28 with fenders.  
Anyone have a rec for an inexpensive but full coverage fender for these 
specs?


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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Bill Lindsay]

Leah

No, tubular does not mean tubeless.  

Tubulars, aka 'sewups', have the tire and tube sewn together as a single 
unit.  It is glued onto a special rim made for the purpose.  Tubulars are 
considered racing tires, and are considered kind of old school.  Everything 
that isn't a tubular is called a clincher.  Tubeless is a form of 
clincher.  

Tubular rims are lighter than clincher rims of the same strength.  Tubular 
tires are generally regarded as more supple than clincher tires of the same 
size.  Tubulars were the only way to get supple tires back in the day.  The 
current renaissance of supple clinchers has closed the gap.  Most roadies 
don't think tubulars are worth the hassle.  They are better, but probably 
only just a tiny bit better.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA  

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 6:00:31 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Bill, does tubular mean tubeless? If so, do the #RivSisters get to feel 
> the tiniest swell of pride for maybe-possibly-theoretically influencing 
> you, a resident Riv expert? I think we’re up to 3 or 4 of us women making 
> the tubeless conversion in the last couple of weeks. I’m joking about our 
> influence, but I do think this is a cool trend and I’m happy to see you and 
> hopefully more folks trying Rivendells tubeless. Please let us know how 
> tubeless is working out for you and any pros and cons you note on your 
> rides. 
>
> At any rate, the bike looks lovely and also fast. 
> Leah

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Weston Hein]

Roberta- I don't have any experience on a Cheviot outside of a long test 
ride (thanks to John @Rivelo). I was just curious if there was a motive 
behind the design change outside of aesthetics. I'm with you in that I 
think tire size/type have a huge impact on the feel of a ride, perhaps the 
biggest impact for me. But I'm definitely excited for the new design, and 
all the new Rivs as of late with their swoopiness. So nice!

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Roberta]

Paul. 

Can you show us some pics of the swished tubes of your Roscoe Bebe-with or 
without Bebe aboard . 

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Bill, does tubular mean tubeless? If so, do the #RivSisters get to feel the 
tiniest swell of pride for maybe-possibly-theoretically influencing you, a 
resident Riv expert? I think we’re up to 3 or 4 of us women making the tubeless 
conversion in the last couple of weeks. I’m joking about our influence, but I 
do think this is a cool trend and I’m happy to see you and hopefully more folks 
trying Rivendells tubeless. Please let us know how tubeless is working out for 
you and any pros and cons you note on your rides. 

At any rate, the bike looks lovely and also fast. 
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-speed shifter QR: Is anyone willing to try this experiment for me?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks once again. My fretting is at least temporarily assuaged. Replied
about the triggers and cables offlist.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:49 PM somervillebikes  wrote:

> Patrick, I replied on the other list :).
>
> I make my own Sturmey cables, so I can speak to the ease of removing them
> from actual experience.
>
> Anton
> velolumino.com
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:07:16 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Next question: does anyone have 1 or 2 of the old fashioned 3 speed
>> AW-type (I hear ASC has different indents) trigger shifters for sale or
>> trade, the ones with no plastic on them?
>>
>> And: Does anyone have cables to go with these, the SA-type heads, not the
>> derailleur "button" heads used in the thumbshifters? The cables can be
>> used, but need to be long enough to run from a drop bar along 57 cm tt down
>> cs to hub. I will take up to 4 off your hands.
>>
>> I have everything else; in fact, I have a trigger, but the sheet metal is
>> split on it.
>>
>> Thank you. Once I get these things, you will never hear from me about
>> 3-speed QR systems again.
>>
>> Happy to pay $ or to trade.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:00 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Calling out to Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger users. I asked Aaron if it
>>> is indeed easy to remove the shifter cable from a 3 speed trigger shifter,
>>> and he replied, "Slammed! Will get back to you when I can."
>>>
>>> Can anyone with too much time on his or her hands and an old-fashioned
>>> Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger shift system try removing the shift cable
>>> from the shifter, and let me know how easy it is to remove and re-install?
>>> If it is quite easy, then I will use that QR method for the new bike.
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>> Patrick "yet another weird request" Moore
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: 3-speed shifter QR: Is anyone willing to try this experiment for me?

[somervillebikes]

Patrick, I replied on the other list :).

I make my own Sturmey cables, so I can speak to the ease of removing them 
from actual experience.

Anton
velolumino.com

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:07:16 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Next question: does anyone have 1 or 2 of the old fashioned 3 speed 
> AW-type (I hear ASC has different indents) trigger shifters for sale or 
> trade, the ones with no plastic on them?
>
> And: Does anyone have cables to go with these, the SA-type heads, not the 
> derailleur "button" heads used in the thumbshifters? The cables can be 
> used, but need to be long enough to run from a drop bar along 57 cm tt down 
> cs to hub. I will take up to 4 off your hands.
>
> I have everything else; in fact, I have a trigger, but the sheet metal is 
> split on it.
>
> Thank you. Once I get these things, you will never hear from me about 
> 3-speed QR systems again.
>
> Happy to pay $ or to trade.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:00 AM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> Calling out to Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger users. I asked Aaron if it 
>> is indeed easy to remove the shifter cable from a 3 speed trigger shifter, 
>> and he replied, "Slammed! Will get back to you when I can."
>>
>> Can anyone with too much time on his or her hands and an old-fashioned 
>> Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger shift system try removing the shift cable 
>> from the shifter, and let me know how easy it is to remove and re-install? 
>> If it is quite easy, then I will use that QR method for the new bike.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Patrick "yet another weird request" Moore
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Nathan Mattia]

I’m in!.  See you then, Jim.  2:00 at King Louis!

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 6:55:01 PM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
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> Ok. Forest park. How about Sunday at 2 by that statute of St Louis in 
> front of the art museum? If we could get 5 Riv riders, I'd say great 
> success. I'm in. Anybody else?

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Re: [RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Dan McNamara]

That bike just looks fast, Bill.

Dan

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> 
> A few things came together and prompted me to build up a tubular wheelset for 
> my Roadeo.  The rims are vintage MAVIC GL330s, and the tires are super sweet 
> Veloflex Vlaanderen which measure a true 27mm.  Now my Roadeo tips the scales 
> at a legit <20 lbs.  I am keeping my clincher wheelset as well, but DANG, 
> this bike is fast with supple tubulars.  
> 
> Photo proves I rode The Three Bears on tubulars for the first time in 20 
> years.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/49815410327
> 
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> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Paul Clifton]

WRT the lines and shape of this bike ...

It's really subtle, but it looks to me like the top and down tubes are 
squished, like my Rosco Bebe. Does anyone agree?

I THINK that feature was added to make the frame stiffer rotationally 
(twisting around the front-to-back axis) . I have a feeling that being able 
to stiffen the frame by shaping the tubes has given Grant a little more 
artistic freedom. It's really exciting to see that technique being used 
again on an upcoming bike.

I wonder if squished tubes is also a feature on the Gus. Can anyone 
confirm? Does anyone know any other bike maker who squishes tubes? I kind 
of assume it common. People squish chainstays all the time. What about 
steel downtubes though?

I ride a 54 +/- in most things. Bikes with 700c wheels look big to me now 
that I'm used to 650b.

Paul in NW Arkansas

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 5:34:40 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>
> Me.  The more I look at it, the more I like it.  There is something so 
> elegant about the lines of that bike.
>
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s have a St. Louis Meet Up!

[Jim S.]

Ok. Forest park. How about Sunday at 2 by that statute of St Louis in front of 
the art museum? If we could get 5 Riv riders, I'd say great success. I'm in. 
Anybody else?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

Well, based on our enthusiasm here, I think Rivendell can feel confident 
placing the Cheviot order. Like hot cakes, these fancy bikes! 

Remember how 2019’s Clem Ls sold out before they reached California’s shores? I 
predict it will be the same with these. I love that men are becoming unafraid 
of mixte and step-through frames. Riv guys are the best guys!

Leah

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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I'm picturing cross dressing men buying bikes out of the back of a van.
> 
> (probably wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in Vegas)
> 
> -Dave J
> 
>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 7:23:41 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> I'm now picturing Leah in a Vegas casino parking lot with the back of the 
>> van open. "Psst, hey buddy. I wanna show ya somethin'" 藍
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Dave Johnston]

And I'm picturing cross dressing men buying bikes out of the back of a van.

(probably wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in Vegas)

-Dave J

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> I'm now picturing Leah in a Vegas casino parking lot with the back of the 
> van open. "Psst, hey buddy. I wanna show ya somethin'" 藍 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joe Bernard]

I'm now picturing Leah in a Vegas casino parking lot with the back of the van 
open. "Psst, hey buddy. I wanna show ya somethin'" 藍 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

Dave, I’m going to have to devise a PLAN. Maybe I buy them all and sell them on 
the black market...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:08 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:
> 
> 
> Better act quick Leah, the guys might beat you to them!
> 
> 
>> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 6:51:29 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Dear #RivSisters,
>> 
>> If ever Grant made a bike especially for us - it would be this Fancy 
>> Cheviot. It is no coincidence we all have heart eyes for it. We’ve all said 
>> it - it’s an extraordinarily elegant, delightful bicycle. Also, it looks 
>> like a design that emerged from the nixed Anniversary Mixte and I love it 
>> even more now.
>> 
>> Girls, let’s clean out Rivendell’s inventory. 
>> Yours, Leah
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:34 PM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Me.  The more I look at it, the more I like it.  There is something so 
>>> elegant about the lines of that bike.  I was leaning towards getting a 
>>> Cheviot when the next batch gets in.  But now that I have seen this, I will 
>>> have to hold out for the fancy version.
>>> 
 On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 I saw this bike in the Riv newsletter and I nearly tipped over. This is 
 the exact bike I would have chosen for myself if I had asked for a custom 
 (but done in red, you know). It’s elegant and lovely and it looks like a 
 ball gown. Do you see it? Those pretty curves in the frame, set off by 
 those larger 700 c wheels? 
 
 Rivendell nailed it. They NAILED it. I cannot be satisfied with anything 
 else now; I am ruined. Who else saw this and can’t wait to hand over their 
 money? 
 
 And now, we wait. 
 Leah in Love in Nevada
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[RBW] Tubulars on Rivendells

[Bill Lindsay]

A few things came together and prompted me to build up a tubular wheelset 
for my Roadeo.  The rims are vintage MAVIC GL330s, and the tires are super 
sweet Veloflex Vlaanderen which measure a true 27mm.  Now my Roadeo tips 
the scales at a legit <20 lbs.  I am keeping my clincher wheelset as well, 
but DANG, this bike is fast with supple tubulars.  

Photo proves I rode The Three Bears on tubulars for the first time in 20 
years.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/49815410327

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Dave Johnston]

Better act quick Leah, the guys might beat you to them!


On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 6:51:29 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Dear #RivSisters,
>
> If ever Grant made a bike especially for us - it would be this Fancy 
> Cheviot. It is no coincidence we all have heart eyes for it. We’ve all said 
> it - it’s an extraordinarily elegant, delightful bicycle. Also, it looks 
> like a design that emerged from the nixed Anniversary Mixte and I love it 
> even more now.
>
> Girls, let’s clean out Rivendell’s inventory. 
> Yours, Leah
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:34 PM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> 
> Me.  The more I look at it, the more I like it.  There is something so 
> elegant about the lines of that bike.  I was leaning towards getting a 
> Cheviot when the next batch gets in.  But now that I have seen this, I will 
> have to hold out for the fancy version.
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I saw this bike in the Riv newsletter and I nearly tipped over. This is 
>> the exact bike I would have chosen for myself if I had asked for a custom 
>> (but done in red, you know). It’s elegant and lovely and it looks like a 
>> ball gown. Do you see it? Those pretty curves in the frame, set off by 
>> those larger 700 c wheels? 
>>
>> Rivendell nailed it. They NAILED it. I cannot be satisfied with anything 
>> else now; I am ruined. Who else saw this and can’t wait to hand over their 
>> money? 
>>
>> And now, we wait. 
>> Leah in Love in Nevada
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

Dear #RivSisters,

If ever Grant made a bike especially for us - it would be this Fancy Cheviot. 
It is no coincidence we all have heart eyes for it. We’ve all said it - it’s an 
extraordinarily elegant, delightful bicycle. Also, it looks like a design that 
emerged from the nixed Anniversary Mixte and I love it even more now.

Girls, let’s clean out Rivendell’s inventory. 
Yours, Leah

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 3:34 PM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Me.  The more I look at it, the more I like it.  There is something so 
> elegant about the lines of that bike.  I was leaning towards getting a 
> Cheviot when the next batch gets in.  But now that I have seen this, I will 
> have to hold out for the fancy version.
> 
>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> I saw this bike in the Riv newsletter and I nearly tipped over. This is the 
>> exact bike I would have chosen for myself if I had asked for a custom (but 
>> done in red, you know). It’s elegant and lovely and it looks like a ball 
>> gown. Do you see it? Those pretty curves in the frame, set off by those 
>> larger 700 c wheels? 
>> 
>> Rivendell nailed it. They NAILED it. I cannot be satisfied with anything 
>> else now; I am ruined. Who else saw this and can’t wait to hand over their 
>> money? 
>> 
>> And now, we wait. 
>> Leah in Love in Nevada
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joe Bernard]

Ann: I'm having the same reaction. I was chatting with someone last night about 
it shortly after first seeing and thought it was nice. Then later I really 
started pouring over the photo and "Wow, this is really NICE!" I particularly 
like the big 700C wheels on this 55cm frame, it gives it a certain elegance I 
can't quite explain. 

Roberta: I'm not sure the bend in the mid-stays would be more compliant than 
the old straight ones, but they look thinner/smaller to me which might be a 
benefit. Although I wouldn't consider the current model too stiff. 

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Me.  The more I look at it, the more I like it.  There is something so 
elegant about the lines of that bike.  I was leaning towards getting a 
Cheviot when the next batch gets in.  But now that I have seen this, I will 
have to hold out for the fancy version.

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I saw this bike in the Riv newsletter and I nearly tipped over. This is 
> the exact bike I would have chosen for myself if I had asked for a custom 
> (but done in red, you know). It’s elegant and lovely and it looks like a 
> ball gown. Do you see it? Those pretty curves in the frame, set off by 
> those larger 700 c wheels? 
>
> Rivendell nailed it. They NAILED it. I cannot be satisfied with anything 
> else now; I am ruined. Who else saw this and can’t wait to hand over their 
> money? 
>
> And now, we wait. 
> Leah in Love in Nevada

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Roberta]

I love the look of this bike!  I do hope it comes in the luscious RBW blue, 
but that silver is smashing also.  Looks like it has some elements of the 
Anniversary mixte and some of the Cheviout.  Also, I hope they either keep 
the name Cheviot or have another name that isn't ugly.  It's a beautiful 
bike that deserves a beautiful name.

Weston, you mention "soften the rear ride a bit."  Do you have experience 
with the Chev?  I've ridden them and have liked their rides, but never 
enough to want to buy one.  In the back of my mind I've always wondered if 
better tires might have made a difference.

Roberta (Joe Appaloosa, and AHH, possibly New-Chev)

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 4:32:54 PM UTC-4, Weston Hein wrote:
>
> Loving the new design! I wonder if the new stay design will soften the 
> rear ride a bit... Less triangulation? Also a huge fan of v-brakes so I'm 
> super excited to see this make their way onto upcoming frames. Can't wait 
> to see the Gallop!
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[RBW] FS: Seagull Trail Breaker bag for Wald 137 Front Basket

[Jared Volpe]

Great bag. Barely used. Basically new. Not available anymore as Seagull 
went out of business. 

Side wings wrap over the basket to hold your bag in place, so you can hit 
the trail knowing your bag’s going to stay in place. 
No need for a cargo net and no more rattling on uneven terrain!  

It comes with the detachable shoulder strap. 

Asking $140.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Weston Hein]

Loving the new design! I wonder if the new stay design will soften the rear 
ride a bit... Less triangulation? Also a huge fan of v-brakes so I'm super 
excited to see this make their way onto upcoming frames. Can't wait to see 
the Gallop!

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[RBW] Re: 3-speed shifter QR: Is anyone willing to try this experiment for me?

[Patrick Moore]

Next question: does anyone have 1 or 2 of the old fashioned 3 speed AW-type
(I hear ASC has different indents) trigger shifters for sale or trade, the
ones with no plastic on them?

And: Does anyone have cables to go with these, the SA-type heads, not the
derailleur "button" heads used in the thumbshifters? The cables can be
used, but need to be long enough to run from a drop bar along 57 cm tt down
cs to hub. I will take up to 4 off your hands.

I have everything else; in fact, I have a trigger, but the sheet metal is
split on it.

Thank you. Once I get these things, you will never hear from me about
3-speed QR systems again.

Happy to pay $ or to trade.



On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:00 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Calling out to Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger users. I asked Aaron if it
> is indeed easy to remove the shifter cable from a 3 speed trigger shifter,
> and he replied, "Slammed! Will get back to you when I can."
>
> Can anyone with too much time on his or her hands and an old-fashioned
> Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger shift system try removing the shift cable
> from the shifter, and let me know how easy it is to remove and re-install?
> If it is quite easy, then I will use that QR method for the new bike.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Patrick "yet another weird request" Moore
>
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[RBW] WTB: Mid-reach road brake, experiment

[Joe Bernard]

So I read in the Crash Stories thread about a fellow on a Frank Jones whose 
front pads slid down his long-reach Tektro R559 and grab the spokes. Now I'm 
noticing on my FJ that the pads are indeed near the top of my caliper and I'm 
nervous. Will a 47-57mm reach work? Let's find out. 

Allen mount, front or both brakes, I don't imagine I'll find just one unless 
you had it on a fixie. Silver or grayish works.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-speed shifter QR: Is anyone willing to try this experiment for me?

[Patrick Moore]

Anton: Please forgive my suspicious and caviling nature, but may I please
ask: Did you personally do this and find it so?

I will be delighted to hear you say "Yes, *YES*, you obsessive, annoying
git."

Patrick "thank you very much!" Moore, who is now wondering if his order of
the SA thumbshifter from Fruugo will ever arrive, leaving him with the old
SA trigger shifter option (which I prefer anyway).

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:32 PM somervillebikes  wrote:

> Yes it is easy to remove. It is analogous to removing a brake cable from a
> brake lever.
>
> Anton
> velolumino.com
>
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 11:00:45 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Calling out to Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger users. I asked Aaron if it
>> is indeed easy to remove the shifter cable from a 3 speed trigger shifter,
>> and he replied, "Slammed! Will get back to you when I can."
>>
>> Can anyone with too much time on his or her hands and an old-fashioned
>> Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger shift system try removing the shift cable
>> from the shifter, and let me know how easy it is to remove and re-install?
>> If it is quite easy, then I will use that QR method for the new bike.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Patrick "yet another weird request" Moore
>>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone have experience w this Quality Wheels Dynamo set?

[Michael Baquerizo]

Thanks for that Velomine link! Killer deal. 

Thanks Eric and all for the info...i guess it was the answer I expected, 
good point about theft bait. Not interested in that by any means. 

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 3:30:27 PM UTC-4, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Assuming you're talking about the Dyad wheelset, I picked up a 700c front 
> wheel to set up my Hillborne with a dynamo. It's served me well for about a 
> year now, maybe 2, commuting and around-town riding in Philly. It's my 
> first dynamo wheel so I don't have anything else to compare it to, but it's 
> reliable as far as I can tell.
>
> I had it on a Black Mtn Cycles Monstercross for a while and the vibration 
> was noticeable, but I attributed that to a number of factors unrelated to 
> the hub itself. On my Hillborne, it's been fine.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 2:19:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>> I'm attempting to build something that will last me, without breaking the 
>> bank entirely. The majority of the build is accounted for between parts bin 
>> parts and things on another bike. 
>>
>> A dynamo wheel set is non negotiable but the price is a big 
>> consideration. Does anyone have experience with this wheel ( I guess it's 
>> sold individually so maybe with these wheels)
>>
>>
>> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwisvcSG1oHpAhUNGAwKHX6EAwsYABAEGgJxYg=www.google.com=CAESQOD25I0nAo7hpZOZk2Efe8kIRo2bZZcmD9rBz1DIJnza1FAEJdaU8Da66wYBglihAM-RP_slFbSaDo9Ssg37y10=AOD64_3Kj8nOAum-NsPctTCum_WV3qHyog=5==2ahUKEwjh6LqG1oHpAhXThHIEHdfvCfoQwg96BAgLEBs=
>>
>> and
>>
>>
>> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwi16sGU1oHpAhULn58KHfPuCDYYABAEGgJxYg=www.google.com=CAESQOD2wcBYNUu0-kvVlHSf6kLcyoqu-oJqKJsXPH2LKkDpj8bg5h6JHHX8LgbHLRXChNLMTBfwX79CQ8ewrBNdSqE=AOD64_1o1r4IpsLaXuJV-w4hABSQ8Tcf0A=5==2ahUKEwjHyLWU1oHpAhV1lnIEHanfCkMQwg96BAgIEB0=
>>
>> Will be mostly used for commuting and riding around NYC, I weigh about 
>> 160 so the 36h seems a bit extra, but they aren't available in 32h. 
>>
>> any thoughts?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have experience w this Quality Wheels Dynamo set?

[Erik Wright]

Assuming you're talking about the Dyad wheelset, I picked up a 700c front 
wheel to set up my Hillborne with a dynamo. It's served me well for about a 
year now, maybe 2, commuting and around-town riding in Philly. It's my 
first dynamo wheel so I don't have anything else to compare it to, but it's 
reliable as far as I can tell.

I had it on a Black Mtn Cycles Monstercross for a while and the vibration 
was noticeable, but I attributed that to a number of factors unrelated to 
the hub itself. On my Hillborne, it's been fine.

Erik, Philly

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 2:19:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> I'm attempting to build something that will last me, without breaking the 
> bank entirely. The majority of the build is accounted for between parts bin 
> parts and things on another bike. 
>
> A dynamo wheel set is non negotiable but the price is a big consideration. 
> Does anyone have experience with this wheel ( I guess it's sold 
> individually so maybe with these wheels)
>
>
> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwisvcSG1oHpAhUNGAwKHX6EAwsYABAEGgJxYg=www.google.com=CAESQOD25I0nAo7hpZOZk2Efe8kIRo2bZZcmD9rBz1DIJnza1FAEJdaU8Da66wYBglihAM-RP_slFbSaDo9Ssg37y10=AOD64_3Kj8nOAum-NsPctTCum_WV3qHyog=5==2ahUKEwjh6LqG1oHpAhXThHIEHdfvCfoQwg96BAgLEBs=
>
> and
>
>
> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwi16sGU1oHpAhULn58KHfPuCDYYABAEGgJxYg=www.google.com=CAESQOD2wcBYNUu0-kvVlHSf6kLcyoqu-oJqKJsXPH2LKkDpj8bg5h6JHHX8LgbHLRXChNLMTBfwX79CQ8ewrBNdSqE=AOD64_1o1r4IpsLaXuJV-w4hABSQ8Tcf0A=5==2ahUKEwjHyLWU1oHpAhV1lnIEHanfCkMQwg96BAgIEB0=
>
> Will be mostly used for commuting and riding around NYC, I weigh about 160 
> so the 36h seems a bit extra, but they aren't available in 32h. 
>
> any thoughts?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have experience w this Quality Wheels Dynamo set?

[Dave S]

Buy 'em here instead:

https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=235_350_id=5269

Dave


On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 2:19:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> I'm attempting to build something that will last me, without breaking the 
> bank entirely. The majority of the build is accounted for between parts bin 
> parts and things on another bike. 
>
> A dynamo wheel set is non negotiable but the price is a big consideration. 
> Does anyone have experience with this wheel ( I guess it's sold 
> individually so maybe with these wheels)
>
>
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>
> Will be mostly used for commuting and riding around NYC, I weigh about 160 
> so the 36h seems a bit extra, but they aren't available in 32h. 
>
> any thoughts?
>
>

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[RBW] Anyone have experience w this Quality Wheels Dynamo set?

[masmojo]

Looks like a competent wheelset, price is reasonable. You could spend more and 
get much better wheels, but in NYC it would probably be counterproductive to 
put some really nice thief bait on any bike. Cheap and cheerful is probably 
best.

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[RBW] Tall Arm V-Brakes

[Kurt Manley]

I had a similar question when I ran a rack like that on my Hunq. I ended up 
using some new XT v-brakes I got from Riv and they worked great. I ran the 
cable under the rack though.  It fit perfect and I had room for 29x2.35 tires 
with fenders.

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[RBW] Re: 3-speed shifter QR: Is anyone willing to try this experiment for me?

[somervillebikes]

Yes it is easy to remove. It is analogous to removing a brake cable from a 
brake lever.

Anton
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On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 11:00:45 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Calling out to Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger users. I asked Aaron if it 
> is indeed easy to remove the shifter cable from a 3 speed trigger shifter, 
> and he replied, "Slammed! Will get back to you when I can."
>
> Can anyone with too much time on his or her hands and an old-fashioned 
> Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger shift system try removing the shift cable 
> from the shifter, and let me know how easy it is to remove and re-install? 
> If it is quite easy, then I will use that QR method for the new bike.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Patrick "yet another weird request" Moore
>
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[RBW] Anyone have experience w this Quality Wheels Dynamo set?

[Michael Baquerizo]

I'm attempting to build something that will last me, without breaking the bank 
entirely. The majority of the build is accounted for between parts bin parts 
and things on another bike. 

A dynamo wheel set is non negotiable but the price is a big consideration. Does 
anyone have experience with this wheel ( I guess it's sold individually so 
maybe with these wheels)

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Will be mostly used for commuting and riding around NYC, I weigh about 160 so 
the 36h seems a bit extra, but they aren't available in 32h. 

any thoughts?



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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[j.schwartz]

FYI
the old Tektro arms that are on there now (not sure of the model number) 
are 110mm from center of bolt to brake wire.





On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:29:04 AM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
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> Thanks for all the info everybody and especially the chart of arm lengths.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Leah Peterson]

I like this same attribute - the diverging midstays. Looking at this bike, I 
feel like Grant took something fantastic and made it perfect. The shape is 
RIGHT. The wheels are RIGHT. Rivendell has been nailing their color choices 
lately so whatever those will be, they will be RIGHT.  

I know we have to be patient but it is really, really hard. We’ve known about 
the Fancy Cheviot for a while now, which came to exist after Riv nixed the 
Anniversary Mixte. I wonder how long production will take...
Leah

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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I like the way the midstays separate ahead of the seattube. On the current 
> frame the toptube ends in a lug, then the midstays begin from sockets 
> rearward of the seattube. 
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Nate in Oakland]

I’d like to say that I own this exact frame and it is excellent.  Here are some 
pluses:
-Excellent tire clearance.  I’m running 650x2.3 in tires and maybe have room 
for fenders.
-Looks.  Almost flat top tube and chain stays that are longer than older 
models, but not super long like the current ones.  Also features my fav 
Rivendell lug set.  Head tube lugs are more ornate than the newer version.
-Ride.  The bike is fun and lively unloaded, but loaded is where it really 
shines.  I’ve done some heavy loaded touring on mine and it was just a dream.  
I guess this is a given with the Atlantis.

I waited over a year for mine and paid full American prices for the frame and 
I’ve felt that it was worth it.  This is a steal!

Nate

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Joe Bernard]

I like the way the midstays separate ahead of the seattube. On the current 
frame the toptube ends in a lug, then the midstays begin from sockets rearward 
of the seattube. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Semi-OT: chambray

[Jay Lonner]

Thanks for the Edgevale link - I just ordered one of their herringbone
chambray shirts, and we'll see how it works out.

As mentioned upthread, it really is possible to go down a rabbit hole with
reproduction workwear - I had no idea! So far I've received shirts from
Gustin and Buzz Rickson's, and while there's a lot to like about the
fabrics and construction, the vintage fit has proven to be problematic. I
am tall (6'3") with most of my height in my torso (32" inseam) so that can
present a sizing challenge. I typically do well with tall or long sizes
when available, which isn't an option in these shirts. So even in the
bigger sizes there just isn't enough length in the arms or torso. My wife
has claimed the Gustin and I'll probably end up reselling the Buzz
Rickson's on eBay. It's amazing that Riv's MUSA shirts fit me so well, and
makes them an even better value.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:59 AM Dan McNamara  wrote:

> Here is another option for a chambray shirt that just came back into stock
> and is a good price.
>
> https://edgevaleusa.com/products/elwell-chambray
>
> I have one from a few years ago and it is a great shirt - just bought a
> backup. I also like their pants for everyday wear or doing heavy work
> around the house.
>
> Glad that there are options out there.
>
> Dan
>
> San Rafael, CA
>
> On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Clayton Scott  wrote:
>
> Taylor stitch may have something too. Tellason may as well.
>
> Clayton Scott
> HBG, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[Jay Lonner]

Funny that the topic of V-brakes has come up just now. Braking has been the
Achilles' heel of my Hunq. I've tried Paul Neo-Retros and Touring cantis
(currently equipped) and even after extensive fiddling informed by
Sheldon's articles they still don't work to my satisfaction, especially
under load and in the wet, which basically describes my commute half the
year. I've been nervous to pull the trigger on linear pull brakes because
of concerns that they'll clear the fenders, but after talking to both Paul
and Grant I ordered up some Motolites and Love Levers that are scheduled to
arrive today. So that's my SARS-CoV-19 quarantine project for the weekend.
One way or another I'm going to have some surplus Paul stuff to sell soon.

When I had Grant on the phone recently I asked him about the Riv V-brake
project, and he indicated that it's still quite far out. But while looking
at the IRD website I did come across this link,
https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/page/6, which has a placeholder for
"IRD Rivendell V-brake" - although at the listed price I think I'll pass...

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:29 AM j.schwartz  wrote:

> Thanks for all the info everybody and especially the chart of arm lengths.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Lyman Labry]

I like the look of the fancy Cheviot.  The swoopy seat stay is graceful.
It continues the line of the top tube through the seat post to the rear
hub.  To me, it looks like a design derivative of the Gus Boots Wilson.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Looks wonderful.
>
> I'm curious as to the design decision in moving to 700C/622 BSD for the
> 55cm model. Thoughts?
>
> With the move to canti/V-posts, I'm guessing that there's clearance for
> wider tires. Perhaps the recommended PBH would be moved higher for the
> models?
>
> shoji
> arlington ma
>
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:42:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the
>> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to
>> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last
>> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>>
>> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and
>> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them.
>> Check it out, it's pretty!
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> Marin County CA.
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[RBW] 3-speed shifter QR: Is anyone willing to try this experiment for me?

[Patrick Moore]

Calling out to Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger users. I asked Aaron if it is
indeed easy to remove the shifter cable from a 3 speed trigger shifter, and
he replied, "Slammed! Will get back to you when I can."

Can anyone with too much time on his or her hands and an old-fashioned
Sturmey Archer 3-speed trigger shift system try removing the shift cable
from the shifter, and let me know how easy it is to remove and re-install?
If it is quite easy, then I will use that QR method for the new bike.

Many thanks.

Patrick "yet another weird request" Moore

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Re: [RBW] Re: Semi-OT: chambray

[Dan McNamara]

Here is another option for a chambray shirt that just came back into stock and 
is a good price. 

https://edgevaleusa.com/products/elwell-chambray

I have one from a few years ago and it is a great shirt - just bought a backup. 
I also like their pants for everyday wear or doing heavy work around the house. 

Glad that there are options out there. 

Dan

San Rafael, CA

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Clayton Scott  wrote:
> 
> Taylor stitch may have something too. Tellason may as well.
> 
> Clayton Scott
> HBG, CA
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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Shoji Takahashi]

Looks wonderful.

I'm curious as to the design decision in moving to 700C/622 BSD for the 
55cm model. Thoughts? 

With the move to canti/V-posts, I'm guessing that there's clearance for 
wider tires. Perhaps the recommended PBH would be moved higher for the 
models? 

shoji
arlington ma


On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:42:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It lives, it's in the new newsletter and here's the pic. I have the 
> somewhat dubious distinction (I think) of being the first "outsider" to 
> know about this project when Grant and Will mentioned it to me at RBW last 
> year. So now I'll start the thread!
>
> It's fancy and swoopy and I dig it. I also dig the original name and 
> decals (and sheep) so I'm adding my non-requested vote for keeping them. 
> Check it out, it's pretty! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Marin County CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[j.schwartz]

Thanks for all the info everybody and especially the chart of arm lengths.

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[Reid Echols]

I’ve had the same issues. I managed to get my Paul motolites to go under the 
rack arm, but they still “clicked” when one side inevitably ran into it. 
Minimotos solved the issue for me, but obviously not a cheap solution. If you’d 
like to buy some Purple Paul cantis, now, I probably know a guy! :) 


Reid in Austin 

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[lconley]

I bought some rebranded Tektro 857AL (120mm arms) recently - sold under the 
CON-TEK brand from Hollandbikeshop.com. They were intended for Beach 
Cruisers.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 7:22:24 AM UTC-4, Tom Palmer wrote:

> Tektro had some "long arm" V brakes that were designed for use with 
> fenders. I think they are Tektro 857AL.  I saw them at my LBS and should 
> have bought them. I quick search found they were discontinued. 
> Maybe Ebay search will fins something.
>
> Tom Palmer
> Twin Lake, MI US
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 8:14:44 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> I have some old Tektro V's from the box that I put on my Clem since they 
>> were laying around.
>> I can not install my Nitto Front rack because the arms aren't tall enough 
>> to clear the fork crown mount. ..see pic.
>> So I took the rack off, but I think it's a less expensive project for me 
>> to replace the front brake then find another rack solution.
>> I know Riv is working on a V brake but that could be awhile...
>> Who makes the tallest arm V brakes (Not Paul please) I want to keep this 
>> pretty budgety.
>> Should I look at newer Tektro's, Shimano's, anything else?
>> See pics
>> Thanks so much  
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 2 Continetal Gatorskin 700x28 tires

[RDS]

sold

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 7:43:25 AM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
>
> Yes, the other items are for sale on a different thread.
>

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[Tom Palmer]

Tektro had some "long arm" V brakes that were designed for use with 
fenders. I think they are Tektro 857AL.  I saw them at my LBS and should 
have bought them. I quick search found they were discontinued. 
Maybe Ebay search will fins something.

Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI US

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 8:14:44 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> I have some old Tektro V's from the box that I put on my Clem since they 
> were laying around.
> I can not install my Nitto Front rack because the arms aren't tall enough 
> to clear the fork crown mount. ..see pic.
> So I took the rack off, but I think it's a less expensive project for me 
> to replace the front brake then find another rack solution.
> I know Riv is working on a V brake but that could be awhile...
> Who makes the tallest arm V brakes (Not Paul please) I want to keep this 
> pretty budgety.
> Should I look at newer Tektro's, Shimano's, anything else?
> See pics
> Thanks so much  
>

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