[RBW] Re: Regarding Fenders - My Sam w/VO Wavy Fenders

[Ray Varella]

Veloman,
Go to velolumino and look under fender widgets, there is an item called a 
TM Plugnut. It’s the solution to your fender mounting. 

Ray

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:49:03 AM UTC-7 velomann wrote:

> I had intended my new Sam to be fender-free; maybe inspired by all those 
> sunny California photos of fender-less Rivs playing in the hills.
> But I realized when it's wet out - which is often October-May here in 
> Portland - I'm usually choosing not to ride the Sam t avoid the skunk 
> stripe up my backside and having to deal with a mucky drivetrain. So I 
> ordered up a set of Velo Orange aluminum Wavy fenders in 650b x 60mm, 
> hoping they would fit. They do. 
> A coupe notes: I did need to dimple the sides of the fenders at the fork 
> and the chainstays. I use a short piece of 1-inch dowel and just press it 
> against the fender and it worked easy on these.
>
> The front fender comes with hardware for mounting a daruma inside the 
> steer tube or hanging it from an L-bracket at the fork crown. I've found 
> L-brackets more likely to crack fenders, and since I already have a Mark's 
> rack on this, I hung the Daruma from that mounting bolt. I had to hacksaw 
> about 1/4" off the bolt - it was rubbing on the tire once everything was 
> snugged up. 
>
> What I *wish* is that all Rivs came with a fender boss inside the bottom 
> of the steer tube. My new Taiwan-made Black Mountain Cycles Road+ has one, 
> all the (Taiwan-made) Velo Orange bikes have them, so it seems like a 
> simple add-on to the specs. I've mounted a lot of fenders - aluminum, 
> plastic, stainless - and It seems to me that one of the problems is having 
> the nuts on the inside of the fender, where - especially at the fork crown 
> or under the seatstay bridge - they create a pinch point and a good place 
> to grab debris, possibly causing a fender failure or even a crash. And it 
> always seems odd to me when a bike - like Rivs - have a threaded fender 
> boss at the seatstay bridge but not one under the fork.
> And if folks don't want to use it they probably wouldn't even know it was 
> there. Kind of like how many Riv riders don't use the kickstand plate.
> [image: File_000 (3).jpeg][image: File_000.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: My New-to-Me Rambouillet

[Jay LePree]

Thanks Jeff.  I am so glad it got there safely.  The Trek bike store near 
me is top notch.  Bike flights made it very easy to ship.  Enjoy it very 
much!!!  I have a lot of good memories with that bicycle.  It should have a 
light as well.  (that is what the tape on the handlebar was for.)  PM if it 
did not ship with the light. 

Jay LePree,
Demarest, NJ

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 7:22:55 PM UTC-4 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> Hey Bunch,
>   
> I always wanted a Riv Rambouillet and when the opportunity knocked I 
> jumped on it.  I went for a proper ride this afternoon and it is the usual 
> Rivendell ride: smooth, predictable, enjoyable!  
>
> Special thanks to the previous owner and fellow Bunch Member (Jay 
> LePree).  He carefully had the bike professionally packed for safe passage 
> across the country.  The bike's frame and fork were all thoughtfully 
> protected with pipe insulation and the front wheel was nicely tucked 
> between the left crankarm, zip-tied to the frame.  Plenty of dunnage was 
> used to occupy the void spaces, to prevent anything from moving within the 
> box.  Cardboard boxes were also used to provide internal 'box' strength to 
> prevent the long and thin box from crushing.  I could tell a lot of 
> thought, time and care went into this packing project.  It arrived in 
> perfect shape.
>
> The only things I needed to do was install the front wheel, 
> seatpost/saddle and handlebar/quill.  Connect the two brake cables and it 
> was done.  I didn't have the patience to reinstall the front mudguard, 
> though!
>
> I wasn't too sure about the *Guidonnet *brake levers but by the end of my 
> ride today I'm thinking I could get really used to these.  Yeah.  
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
>   
>

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Re: [RBW] Fattest Tire on a QB?

[Patch T]

The largest I've confidently fit on my orange 56 were Soma Cazadero 42s, 
Dyad rims, wheel around the back-middle of the dropouts. 
I never tried any wider, as the chainstay clearance looks like the max for 
my piece of mind. (I like riding it on rougher stuff than paved stuff, so a 
hairline clearance is not an option for me)

I'd be willing to bet that the UDs will fit. AND I may end up doing the 
same move once I put the QB back together. I have the 650b ROSE "mullet" 
set-up on my custom Bantam and the combination of knobs in front and file 
tread in back is super fun on trails, good enough on pavement.

Patch
BK/NY


On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:03:46 PM UTC-4 Jim M. wrote:

> I had Big Apple 50s on mine. Fit was maybe a little tight but no paint 
> rubbed off, so I think it was good.
>
> jim m
> walnut creek, ca
>
> [image: 3448531380_84086b5829_c (1).jpg]
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 3:56:33 PM UTC-7 mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> RG,   I used to be able to fit BG rock n roads ( 700x43) on my Orange 64 
>> QB a few years back with the wheel in the middle to rear of the dropouts.   
>> And the RnRs have some decent side knobs to take into account.  Not sure of 
>> exact mm clearance on each side but it was fine.-Mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Robert Gardner  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone --
>>
>> I recently saw a post on Instagram (which I have subsequently lost track 
>> of) that showed a QB rocking Ultradynamico 700ccs (I think they were the 
>> Rosè racers). 
>>
>> As I am in the market for some new rubber I thought -- WOWZA -- that 
>> would be fun. So, I'm throwing myself at the mercy of the few the proud the 
>> QB riders on this list. What's the fattest you've been able to go on a QB 
>> (if it helps, I ride a 58...)
>>
>> Thanks all --
>>
>> RGinDC
>>
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Re: [RBW] Fattest Tire on a QB?

[Patch T]

Edit: by ROSE I meant RACE. The names are confusing to me still.


On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:45:11 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:

> The largest I've confidently fit on my orange 56 were Soma Cazadero 42s, 
> Dyad rims, wheel around the back-middle of the dropouts. 
> I never tried any wider, as the chainstay clearance looks like the max for 
> my piece of mind. (I like riding it on rougher stuff than paved stuff, so a 
> hairline clearance is not an option for me)
>
> I'd be willing to bet that the UDs will fit. AND I may end up doing the 
> same move once I put the QB back together. I have the 650b ROSE "mullet" 
> set-up on my custom Bantam and the combination of knobs in front and file 
> tread in back is super fun on trails, good enough on pavement.
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:03:46 PM UTC-4 Jim M. wrote:
>
>> I had Big Apple 50s on mine. Fit was maybe a little tight but no paint 
>> rubbed off, so I think it was good.
>>
>> jim m
>> walnut creek, ca
>>
>> [image: 3448531380_84086b5829_c (1).jpg]
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 3:56:33 PM UTC-7 mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> RG,   I used to be able to fit BG rock n roads ( 700x43) on my Orange 64 
>>> QB a few years back with the wheel in the middle to rear of the dropouts.   
>>> And the RnRs have some decent side knobs to take into account.  Not sure of 
>>> exact mm clearance on each side but it was fine.-Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Robert Gardner  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone --
>>>
>>> I recently saw a post on Instagram (which I have subsequently lost track 
>>> of) that showed a QB rocking Ultradynamico 700ccs (I think they were the 
>>> Rosè racers). 
>>>
>>> As I am in the market for some new rubber I thought -- WOWZA -- that 
>>> would be fun. So, I'm throwing myself at the mercy of the few the proud the 
>>> QB riders on this list. What's the fattest you've been able to go on a QB 
>>> (if it helps, I ride a 58...)
>>>
>>> Thanks all --
>>>
>>> RGinDC
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell and Riv-ish Parts - Silver 2 Bar Ends, Silver Calipers, Albastache, Technomic, etc.

[Huston]

All items SOLD thanks to RBW OB.

Huston

On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 7:23:15 PM UTC-4 Huston wrote:

> Update and price drops.  Here's what remains:
>
> 4. Rivendell branded "Silver" brake calipers.  Excellent condition.  
> $60.00 shipped.
> 7. Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem.  80mm length; 26.0mm clamp.  Clean with 
> only a couple of light scratches on top.  $45.00 shipped.
>
> Huston
> Lexington, KY
>
>
> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 7:32:23 PM UTC-4 Huston wrote:
>
>> Update #2.  The following items remain:
>>
>> 1. Nitto Albastache (RM017) bars.  26.0 clamp diameter.  Excellent 
>> condition.  $78.00.
>> 4. Rivendell branded "Silver" brake calipers.  Excellent condition.  
>> $75.00
>> 7. Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem.  80mm length; 26.0mm clamp.  Clean with 
>> only a couple of light scratches on top.  $50.00
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Huston
>> Lexington, KY
>>
>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4 Huston wrote:
>>
>>> The following items are still available:
>>>
>>> 1. Nitto Albastache (RM017) bars.  26.0 clamp diameter.  Excellent 
>>> condition.  $78.00.
>>> 2. Shimano BL-R400 brake levers.  Very good condition with a couple of 
>>> light scuffs.  $32.00.
>>> 4. Rivendell branded "Silver" brake calipers.  Excellent condition.  
>>> $75.00
>>> 6. Rivendell Silver 2 shifters with pods.  Installed but otherwise new.  
>>> $86.00
>>> 7. Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem.  80mm length; 26.0mm clamp.  Clean with 
>>> only a couple of light scratches on top.  $50.00
>>> 8. Shimano Deore XT RD-M772 Shadow rear derailleur.  9 speed.  Normal 
>>> signs of use.  $50.00
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Huston
>>> Lexington, KY
>>> On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 10:58:07 AM UTC-4 Huston wrote:
>>>
 Spring cleaning means various Rivendell and Riv-ish parts/components 
 for sale.  Silver is the theme.  All prices exclusive of shipping.

 1. Nitto Albastache (RM017) bars.  26.0 clamp diameter.  Excellent 
 condition.  $78.00.
 2. Shimano BL-R400 brake levers.  Very good condition with a couple of 
 light scuffs.  $32.00.
 3. MKS Lambda pedals.  Good condition with normal signs of use.  $32.00
 4. Rivendell branded "Silver" brake calipers.  Excellent condition.  
 $75.00
 5. Shimano CS-HG 400 cassette.  9 speed; 12-36.  Used but plenty of 
 life left.  $25.00
 6. Rivendell Silver 2 shifters with pods.  Installed but otherwise 
 new.  $86.00
 7. Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem.  80mm length; 26.0mm clamp.  Clean with 
 only a couple of light scratches on top.  $50.00
 8. Shimano Deore XT RD-M772 Shadow rear derailleur.  9 speed.  Normal 
 signs of use.  $50.00

 Photos are available here 
 .
   
 Please respond via email if you are interested, and we can figure out 
 shipping costs.

 Thanks for looking.

 Huston
 Lexington, KY

>>>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto fillet brazed 31.8 stem and RuthWorks Ultralight 8" Rando bag

[Andrew Turner]

Here are the pics . 

*RuthWorks 8" bag:*
The bag is in great shape, very low mileage. Includes RA clips that were 
designed for a Nitto canti front rack, so should fit similar nitto racks. 
The devil patch is glued on so replace with another patch if you choose. 
Pins included. $230 shipped (CONUS)

*Nitto Fillet FacePlater - Quill - 31.8 (CR60-3): *
85mm flavor. Tiny mark on the side (arrived like that). Mounted but never 
used.  $110 shipped (CONUS) 

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[RBW] Re: My New-to-Me Rambouillet

[Jeffrey Arita]

Hey Jay - sorry, yes, the Supernova light made the journey as well.  After 
unpacking it all I disconnected the light and wiring and placed it in a 
safe spot.  In my excitement to ride the Ram I simply jumped on and rode 
away.  I will definitely reconnect it today.  Yes, those good folks at Trek 
knew what they were packing - they really wanted to make sure it made the 
journey safely.  

Yes Andy, I realize my descriptors were perhaps a bit on the bland side, 
maybe closer to an ultra-light shade of beige ..*s*, we don't want *too 
*many people to know what we know, though, right?  To quote Ned Ryerson 
from *Groundhog Day*, "Am I right or am I right or am I right?  
Right.right. right."

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:47:59 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:

> Nice!
>
> You will feel growing enjoyment and recognize orange as the fastest color. 
> What may seem like meh ride attributes of "smooth, predictable, enjoyable" 
> will rise in your favor as they are delivered with the consistency of stone 
> columns through all circumstances. 
>
> "Smooth, predictable, enjoyable" will become very decisive words when 
> other bikes' rides are compared or considered. The giants topple against 
> these.
> [image: 1BA71749-6A21-4C4D-A30F-78046D1C707F_1_105_c.jpeg]
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 7:22:55 PM UTC-4 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> Hey Bunch,
>>   
>> I always wanted a Riv Rambouillet and when the opportunity knocked I 
>> jumped on it.  I went for a proper ride this afternoon and it is the usual 
>> Rivendell ride: smooth, predictable, enjoyable!  
>>
>> Special thanks to the previous owner and fellow Bunch Member (Jay 
>> LePree).  He carefully had the bike professionally packed for safe passage 
>> across the country.  The bike's frame and fork were all thoughtfully 
>> protected with pipe insulation and the front wheel was nicely tucked 
>> between the left crankarm, zip-tied to the frame.  Plenty of dunnage was 
>> used to occupy the void spaces, to prevent anything from moving within the 
>> box.  Cardboard boxes were also used to provide internal 'box' strength to 
>> prevent the long and thin box from crushing.  I could tell a lot of 
>> thought, time and care went into this packing project.  It arrived in 
>> perfect shape.
>>
>> The only things I needed to do was install the front wheel, 
>> seatpost/saddle and handlebar/quill.  Connect the two brake cables and it 
>> was done.  I didn't have the patience to reinstall the front mudguard, 
>> though!
>>
>> I wasn't too sure about the *Guidonnet *brake levers but by the end of 
>> my ride today I'm thinking I could get really used to these.  Yeah.  
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>>   
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] My New-to-Me Rambouillet

[Patrick Moore]

That's very nice, and I like the bar and brakes, tho' generally I
personally much prefer drops on all my bikes. I assume you'll install the
front fender?

And what bar is that?

Where does one find such guidonnet levers? Those might be just the thing
for my new MAP bar on the Monocog (installed flipped like your bar), where
all the vast real estate (I didn't after all trim the bar) makes lever
placement a bit puzzling. Levers like those could be installed ahead of,
instead of behind, the taped section on the curves, and still allow braking
from the straight sections.

Oh, and would those work with cable-operated disc brakes? Perhaps not ...

Patrick Moore, who fondly remembers his blue Ram.

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:22 PM Jeffrey Arita 
wrote:

> Hey Bunch,
>
> I always wanted a Riv Rambouillet and when the opportunity knocked I
> jumped on it.  I went for a proper ride this afternoon and it is the usual
> Rivendell ride: smooth, predictable, enjoyable!
>
> Special thanks to the previous owner and fellow Bunch Member (Jay
> LePree).  He carefully had the bike professionally packed for safe passage
> across the country.  The bike's frame and fork were all thoughtfully
> protected with pipe insulation and the front wheel was nicely tucked
> between the left crankarm, zip-tied to the frame.  Plenty of dunnage was
> used to occupy the void spaces, to prevent anything from moving within the
> box.  Cardboard boxes were also used to provide internal 'box' strength to
> prevent the long and thin box from crushing.  I could tell a lot of
> thought, time and care went into this packing project.  It arrived in
> perfect shape.
>
> The only things I needed to do was install the front wheel,
> seatpost/saddle and handlebar/quill.  Connect the two brake cables and it
> was done.  I didn't have the patience to reinstall the front mudguard,
> though!
>
> I wasn't too sure about the *Guidonnet *brake levers but by the end of my
> ride today I'm thinking I could get really used to these.  Yeah.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

[Eric Marth]

Perhaps I missed something here in this thread and my at-large Bombadil 
knowledge is definitely lacking but what's the story with the finish in the 
first place? Was this a prototype? 

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Yeah the low-keyness of the current raw finish is a pretty big plus in 
> that regard, as I do have to lock it up around town - the orange of my Sam 
> certainly causes some additional fear when I lock it up out of sight (which 
> isn't very often) 
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:59 PM Chris L  wrote:
>
>> It might be sacrilege, but if I ever decided to change the color of my 
>> Hunqapillar, I would have it powder coated dull black.  Deciding to change 
>> the color would  be an indication that it's a "forever" bike for me and I 
>> want it to look as generic as possible.  Just a personal preference.
>>
>> However, there are other Riv's and other non-Riv's that interest me, so 
>> for now, it stays dolphin gray and orange.  
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:55:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Lug's sense of style is unparalleled!  Yeah that's gorgeous.  Eric 
>>> has a good point too - and, something that I think about is that a proper 
>>> quality paint job will be minimum one-third the value of the frame itself, 
>>> when I could just put that towards an actual frame and preserve the 
>>> Bombadil's original finish... 
>>>
>>> Good chance I've been talked out of ever painting it, despite the high 
>>> quality options given. 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto fillet brazed 31.8 stem and RuthWorks Ultralight 8" Rando bag

[Andrew Turner]

Stem has been sold. 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:53:15 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Here are the pics . 
>
> *RuthWorks 8" bag:*
> The bag is in great shape, very low mileage. Includes RA clips that were 
> designed for a Nitto canti front rack, so should fit similar nitto racks. 
> The devil patch is glued on so replace with another patch if you choose. 
> Pins included. $230 shipped (CONUS)
>
> *Nitto Fillet FacePlater - Quill - 31.8 (CR60-3): *
> 85mm flavor. Tiny mark on the side (arrived like that). Mounted but never 
> used.  $110 shipped (CONUS) 
>

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Re: [RBW] Fattest Tire on a QB?

[John G]

Specialized Fatboy 45s, although I've recently gone back to 32s
https://flic.kr/p/2hFGfWf

John G
Union Bridge, MD

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:52:45 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:

> Edit: by ROSE I meant RACE. The names are confusing to me still.
>
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 9:45:11 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>
>> The largest I've confidently fit on my orange 56 were Soma Cazadero 42s, 
>> Dyad rims, wheel around the back-middle of the dropouts. 
>> I never tried any wider, as the chainstay clearance looks like the max 
>> for my piece of mind. (I like riding it on rougher stuff than paved stuff, 
>> so a hairline clearance is not an option for me)
>>
>> I'd be willing to bet that the UDs will fit. AND I may end up doing the 
>> same move once I put the QB back together. I have the 650b ROSE "mullet" 
>> set-up on my custom Bantam and the combination of knobs in front and file 
>> tread in back is super fun on trails, good enough on pavement.
>>
>> Patch
>> BK/NY
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:03:46 PM UTC-4 Jim M. wrote:
>>
>>> I had Big Apple 50s on mine. Fit was maybe a little tight but no paint 
>>> rubbed off, so I think it was good.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> walnut creek, ca
>>>
>>> [image: 3448531380_84086b5829_c (1).jpg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 3:56:33 PM UTC-7 mkernan...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 RG,   I used to be able to fit BG rock n roads ( 700x43) on my Orange 
 64 QB a few years back with the wheel in the middle to rear of the 
 dropouts.   And the RnRs have some decent side knobs to take into account. 
  Not sure of exact mm clearance on each side but it was fine.-Mike

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Robert Gardner  
 wrote:

 Hi everyone --

 I recently saw a post on Instagram (which I have subsequently 
 lost track of) that showed a QB rocking Ultradynamico 700ccs (I think they 
 were the Rosè racers). 

 As I am in the market for some new rubber I thought -- WOWZA -- that 
 would be fun. So, I'm throwing myself at the mercy of the few the proud 
 the 
 QB riders on this list. What's the fattest you've been able to go on a QB 
 (if it helps, I ride a 58...)

 Thanks all --

 RGinDC

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Re: [RBW] Re: new shoes for a 47cm Atlantis

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, my Naches Passes measure 41 mm on 21 mm outside-width rims, run
tubeless.

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:46 AM dougP  wrote:

> My wife's 47cm Atlantis (Toyo built, c. '02-'03) has Schwalbe Marathon
> Supreme in 1.6" width.  I think you'd be OK.  I just checked & I can get my
> index finger between the tire at the fork, seat stay, & chain stay.  Tires
> measure 1.46" (37 mm).  Rims are the originals used by Rivendell at the
> time; no idea if width.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 10:28:32 AM UTC-7 Mike Davis wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if the Rene Herse 26" Naches Pass 1.8's will fit onto an
>> old style (2002 Made in Japan) Atlantis?
>> 
>>
>> I've run Specialized 1.5 Nimbus (2) for years on the Commuter and the
>> Atlantis but I'm thinking a little added width might be nice. The catalog
>> says 1.7", PJW says 1.75",  for tires on those models of the Atlantis but
>> the width of the Naches Pass is 41mm on a 20mm rim (I run 18mm rims).
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

[Jason Fuller]

Eric - It was an early production color, err, finish to my knowledge - not
that there were many built with any one finish based on production numbers
and variety of colors they came in! This is all stuff I've learned in the
past six months though and my Bomba-knowledge is barely paint-deep, because
in 2009 when this bike was built I was too annoyed by the lack of geometry
info to consider a Rivendell and stuck to my Surlys, Somas and Salsas of
the era haha



On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:07 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Perhaps I missed something here in this thread and my at-large Bombadil
> knowledge is definitely lacking but what's the story with the finish in the
> first place? Was this a prototype?
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Yeah the low-keyness of the current raw finish is a pretty big plus in
>> that regard, as I do have to lock it up around town - the orange of my Sam
>> certainly causes some additional fear when I lock it up out of sight (which
>> isn't very often)
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:59 PM Chris L  wrote:
>>
>>> It might be sacrilege, but if I ever decided to change the color of my
>>> Hunqapillar, I would have it powder coated dull black.  Deciding to change
>>> the color would  be an indication that it's a "forever" bike for me and I
>>> want it to look as generic as possible.  Just a personal preference.
>>>
>>> However, there are other Riv's and other non-Riv's that interest me, so
>>> for now, it stays dolphin gray and orange.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:55:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Blue Lug's sense of style is unparalleled!  Yeah that's gorgeous.  Eric
 has a good point too - and, something that I think about is that a proper
 quality paint job will be minimum one-third the value of the frame itself,
 when I could just put that towards an actual frame and preserve the
 Bombadil's original finish...

 Good chance I've been talked out of ever painting it, despite the high
 quality options given.
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Re: [RBW] Re: new shoes for a 47cm Atlantis

[Mike Davis]

It's worth alot. But it looks like the standard casing 26"  version is
unobtainium right now. I do plan to use tubes (I am old fashioned that way)
and that reduces width by a mm. Thanks for your help.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> FWIW, my Naches Passes measure 41 mm on 21 mm outside-width rims, run
> tubeless.
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:46 AM dougP  wrote:
>
>> My wife's 47cm Atlantis (Toyo built, c. '02-'03) has Schwalbe Marathon
>> Supreme in 1.6" width.  I think you'd be OK.  I just checked & I can get my
>> index finger between the tire at the fork, seat stay, & chain stay.  Tires
>> measure 1.46" (37 mm).  Rims are the originals used by Rivendell at the
>> time; no idea if width.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 10:28:32 AM UTC-7 Mike Davis wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if the Rene Herse 26" Naches Pass 1.8's will fit onto
>>> an old style (2002 Made in Japan) Atlantis?
>>> 
>>>
>>> I've run Specialized 1.5 Nimbus (2) for years on the Commuter and the
>>> Atlantis but I'm thinking a little added width might be nice. The catalog
>>> says 1.7", PJW says 1.75",  for tires on those models of the Atlantis but
>>> the width of the Naches Pass is 41mm on a 20mm rim (I run 18mm rims).
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I 
am so excited to see it and get it all built up!

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

>
> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>
> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>
>> Jonathan
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
>>> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
>>> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>>>
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
 The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 Sunrace 
 mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
 a 
 different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
 derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money than 
 the big name parts makers. 

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>
> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
> wrote:
>
>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>> off 
>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>> final 
>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>> will 
>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>
>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>> gets 
>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>
>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>>>
>>> Ray
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Leah,
 I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
 I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
 Doug

 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
> and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. Ever. 
>
> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
> Platys for us to admire!
>
> Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>>
>> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
>>
>> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
>> derailer is on there? Thank you!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>>
>>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>>> Protection Program now.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM Joe Bernard  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That bike with all its glorious teal and rose and Brooks and 
 bags is - and there is no higher compliment from me - CR

[RBW] FS: Saddlesack Large, plenty of beausage, plenty of life.

[Zack]

Selling my olde saddleback large. Has lots of beausage and has been 
well-loved, but also has plenty of life left.

I am thinking *$100* plus whatever shipping costs. 

Pics on google drive 
here: 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

[Eric Marth]

The palm green is a great color for a trail bike and one I've considered 
should I ever strip down and repaint a frame. This is a great reference 
palette Jared, very cool idea! 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 1:35:38 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Why have I never thought about this?!?!  I have been obsessed with PG/SG 
> buses since the late 90's.  Fantastic idea Jared. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking about this a lot and I feel that pretty much any 
>> color/s from the air-cooled Volkwagen days would lend themselves nicely to 
>> a Rivendell.
>>
>> Paint colors/codes can be found at the bottom of each page linked below
>>
>> Volkswagen Bug Colors 
>> 
>>
>> Volkswagen Bus Colors 
>> 
>>
>> Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Colors 
>> 
>>
>> Some of my favorites include:
>>
>> Palm Green/Sand Green
>>
>> [image: 400984_73b64d038b_z.jpg]
>>
>> Chesnut Brown/Sealing Wax Red
>>
>> [image: 39612e47333dacd57aca803ed674551a.png]
>>
>> Sea Blue/Blue White
>>
>> [image: IMG_0035_3.JPG]
>>
>>
>> Mango Green/Seagull Gray
>>
>> [image: 177478.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 10:16:18 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Eric - It was an early production color, err, finish to my knowledge - 
>>> not that there were many built with any one finish based on production 
>>> numbers and variety of colors they came in! This is all stuff I've learned 
>>> in the past six months though and my Bomba-knowledge is barely paint-deep, 
>>> because in 2009 when this bike was built I was too annoyed by the lack of 
>>> geometry info to consider a Rivendell and stuck to my Surlys, Somas and 
>>> Salsas of the era haha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:07 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
 Perhaps I missed something here in this thread and my at-large Bombadil 
 knowledge is definitely lacking but what's the story with the finish in 
 the 
 first place? Was this a prototype? 

 On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Yeah the low-keyness of the current raw finish is a pretty big plus in 
> that regard, as I do have to lock it up around town - the orange of my 
> Sam 
> certainly causes some additional fear when I lock it up out of sight 
> (which 
> isn't very often) 
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:59 PM Chris L  wrote:
>
>> It might be sacrilege, but if I ever decided to change the color of 
>> my Hunqapillar, I would have it powder coated dull black.  Deciding to 
>> change the color would  be an indication that it's a "forever" bike for 
>> me 
>> and I want it to look as generic as possible.  Just a personal 
>> preference.
>>
>> However, there are other Riv's and other non-Riv's that interest me, 
>> so for now, it stays dolphin gray and orange.  
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:55:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Lug's sense of style is unparalleled!  Yeah that's gorgeous.  
>>> Eric has a good point too - and, something that I think about is that a 
>>> proper quality paint job will be minimum one-third the value of the 
>>> frame 
>>> itself, when I could just put that towards an actual frame and preserve 
>>> the 
>>> Bombadil's original finish... 
>>>
>>> Good chance I've been talked out of ever painting it, despite the 
>>> high quality options given. 
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[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA pants, British wool and linen

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Doug. I'll keep my eye out for an alternate splatter pattern!

Linen shirt is sold. Wool and MUSA pants remain. I'm open to offers. The 
pants are in great shape aside from the primer. I can ensure it does not 
impact ride or fit. I got these a while back and just never wear them. 

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:08:26 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I've been looking for some pants with primer on the left cuff so these 
> won't work for me. I need a clean right cuff. This post is so funny and I 
> got a chuckle out of it. Good luck with the sale. Even stained MUSA pants 
> are the best. One of my pair have a hole in them and I wear them often.
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:52:20 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I have a few bits of riding clothes for sale. 
>>
>> Pictures are here: 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BiPcHMVFEu7ZSz76PJiViHMKuEEQ3Thl?usp=sharing
>>
>> Glencroft Jacob Brown Aran Jumper – $60 plus shipping 
>> Beautiful, new with tags. Made in the UK. A bit of a loose cable knit. 
>> Lovely brown with flecks of gray and darker wool. Pit to pit: 21”. Cuff to 
>> sleeve: 21”. Top of shoulder to bottom hem: 26”. 
>>
>> MUSA pants – $60 plus shipping
>> This is a pair of black nylon riding pants from Rivendell. Added feature: 
>> paint splotches at back right butt pocket and bottom right cuff. It’s 
>> Benjamin Moore Fresh Start #094 oil-based primer. Mesh pockets. Buttons 
>> intact, photographed with pockets unbuttoned. Measures 16-1/2” at the waist 
>> laid flat with tons of adjustment. Inseam is 30”. 
>>
>> J Crew linen shirt – $5 plus shipping
>> Baird McNutt Irish linen, made in China. This shirt is lighter than it 
>> appears in the photos (thanks to crinkle and sidelight). White linen with 
>> blue-gray stripes. There are a subtle rust-colored spots: some near the 
>> label and some on the back over the left shoulder blade area. Pit to pit: 
>> 21-1/2”. Top of shoulder to bottom hem: 29”
>>
>> LL Bean Trekking sweater – $50 plus shipping
>> This is an ideal sweater and I hesitate to sell it but it just doesn’t 
>> fit. Beautiful tight knit and a tweed of green, brown, tan and grey. 
>> Labeled a large but with a fit that’s more like a medium. Made in the UK. 
>> Delightful weave and very similar to some of the British wool sweaters sold 
>> by Rivendell (in the era before everything was ribbed). Very similar in 
>> color to current line of cardis, vests, etc. Three buttons with a bit of a 
>> high collar. Pit to pit: 21”. Top of collar to bottom hem: 27-1/2”. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] FS: 60 CHEVIOT

[Howard Hatten]

$1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
Hi Friends
I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired Sam 
Hillborne frameset.
Ceviot Specs:
Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are newer 
Schwalbe Marathon 
Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed.
Stem mounted shifter.
Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender clearance.
Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.

Thanks for looking
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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesack Large, plenty of beausage, plenty of life.

[Zack]

and sold!!

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 10:30:49 AM UTC-7 Zack wrote:

> Selling my olde saddleback large. Has lots of beausage and has been 
> well-loved, but also has plenty of life left.
>
> I am thinking *$100* plus whatever shipping costs. 
>
> Pics on google drive here: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19mcrTRoDwRsQRT1B86xErx1lquug4mId?usp=sharing
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT

[Bill Lindsay]

Good grief what a build/price!  That's one bad ass Cheviut.  I emailed some 
questions.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:

> $1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
> Hi Friends
> I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired Sam 
> Hillborne frameset.
> Ceviot Specs:
> Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are newer 
> Schwalbe Marathon 
> Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
> Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
> Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
> Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
> Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed.
> Stem mounted shifter.
> Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender clearance.
> Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.
>
> Thanks for looking
> DM off list is interested.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's your favorite painting of a Bombadil?

[Joe Bernard]

The clearcoat over bare steel finish showed up on several proto frames of 
various models and was offered as an option on production bikes for a short 
while. It didn't take long for people to start fretting about seeing rust 
form and that party was over! 

Joe "rust never sleeps" Bernard

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 10:16:18 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Eric - It was an early production color, err, finish to my knowledge - not 
> that there were many built with any one finish based on production numbers 
> and variety of colors they came in! This is all stuff I've learned in the 
> past six months though and my Bomba-knowledge is barely paint-deep, because 
> in 2009 when this bike was built I was too annoyed by the lack of geometry 
> info to consider a Rivendell and stuck to my Surlys, Somas and Salsas of 
> the era haha
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:07 AM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Perhaps I missed something here in this thread and my at-large Bombadil 
>> knowledge is definitely lacking but what's the story with the finish in the 
>> first place? Was this a prototype? 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 6:08:50 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah the low-keyness of the current raw finish is a pretty big plus in 
>>> that regard, as I do have to lock it up around town - the orange of my Sam 
>>> certainly causes some additional fear when I lock it up out of sight (which 
>>> isn't very often) 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 2:59 PM Chris L  wrote:
>>>
 It might be sacrilege, but if I ever decided to change the color of my 
 Hunqapillar, I would have it powder coated dull black.  Deciding to change 
 the color would  be an indication that it's a "forever" bike for me and I 
 want it to look as generic as possible.  Just a personal preference.

 However, there are other Riv's and other non-Riv's that interest me, so 
 for now, it stays dolphin gray and orange.  

 On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 12:55:00 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Blue Lug's sense of style is unparalleled!  Yeah that's gorgeous.  
> Eric has a good point too - and, something that I think about is that a 
> proper quality paint job will be minimum one-third the value of the frame 
> itself, when I could just put that towards an actual frame and preserve 
> the 
> Bombadil's original finish... 
>
> Good chance I've been talked out of ever painting it, despite the high 
> quality options given. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Emily Guise]

Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be awesome. 

Emily

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I am 
> so excited to see it and get it all built up!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
> 
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>> 
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>> 
>> Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm PST. 
>> You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're going to 
>> finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even though 
>> you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was just 
>>> a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that size 
 and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
 
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
> money than the big name parts makers. 
> 
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>> 
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>>> wrote:
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The demos 
>>> prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are off in 
>>> the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final design. So, the container must have arrived and that means 
>>> Platypuses will be dotting the American countryside in the next few 
>>> weeks!
>>> 
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are going 
>>> to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>> 
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. So 
>>> far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
 So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut Creek?!
 
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
>> 
>> Here’s a Platypus Easter twist
>> 
>> Ray
>>> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>> Leah,
>>> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
>>> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
>>> Doug
>>> 
 On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This bike 
 and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. 
 Ever. 
 
 But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
 Platys for us to admire!
 
 Rich asked: The front derailleur is Shimano Deore. 
 
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:00:27 AM UTC-8 RichS wrote:
> Leah,
> 
> That is one breathtaking bicycle. My compliments!
> 
> You may have addressed this in an earlier post but what front 
> derailer is on there? Thank you!
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:32:11 AM UTC-5 Ray Evans wrote:
>> I think you and that glorious bike need to go into a Witness 
>>>

Re: [RBW] My New-to-Me Rambouillet

[Jeffrey Arita]

Patrick, thank you!

The handlebars are Velo Orange *Porteurs*.  They measure out to about 48cm 
at the widest point (where the bar cons go).   The brake levers are 
Dia-Compe DC139s, I'm guessing nicknamed "Guidonnets."  I did a quick 
search and Blue Lug sells them, available in black only (Universal Cycles 
was out of stock).  Apparently they are available in either 22.2mm or 
23.8mm clamp sizes.  They are an interesting design, I'm thinking designed 
to follow the curves of a porteur-style bar, enabling braking from many 
hand positions.

I'm not certain if they would work (well) with mechanical disc brakes.  I 
would assume the two would need to be carefully paired together to ensure 
the cable pull of the DC139 is appropriate for whatever mechanical disc 
brake caliper is chosen.

Regarding the mudguards, yes, I hope to reinstall it.  But, I will likely 
install larger tires so that will likely put an end to that.  In reading 
the background story on the Rambouillet (thanks to Cyclofiend), Grant puts 
tremendous thought into all of his designs.  I'm thinking this would make a 
fantastic rando bike.

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 8:53:44 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's very nice, and I like the bar and brakes, tho' generally I 
> personally much prefer drops on all my bikes. I assume you'll install the 
> front fender?
>
> And what bar is that?
>
> Where does one find such guidonnet levers? Those might be just the thing 
> for my new MAP bar on the Monocog (installed flipped like your bar), where 
> all the vast real estate (I didn't after all trim the bar) makes lever 
> placement a bit puzzling. Levers like those could be installed ahead of, 
> instead of behind, the taped section on the curves, and still allow braking 
> from the straight sections.
>
> Oh, and would those work with cable-operated disc brakes? Perhaps not ...
>
> Patrick Moore, who fondly remembers his blue Ram.
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 5:22 PM Jeffrey Arita  wrote:
>
>> Hey Bunch,
>>   
>> I always wanted a Riv Rambouillet and when the opportunity knocked I 
>> jumped on it.  I went for a proper ride this afternoon and it is the usual 
>> Rivendell ride: smooth, predictable, enjoyable!  
>>
>> Special thanks to the previous owner and fellow Bunch Member (Jay 
>> LePree).  He carefully had the bike professionally packed for safe passage 
>> across the country.  The bike's frame and fork were all thoughtfully 
>> protected with pipe insulation and the front wheel was nicely tucked 
>> between the left crankarm, zip-tied to the frame.  Plenty of dunnage was 
>> used to occupy the void spaces, to prevent anything from moving within the 
>> box.  Cardboard boxes were also used to provide internal 'box' strength to 
>> prevent the long and thin box from crushing.  I could tell a lot of 
>> thought, time and care went into this packing project.  It arrived in 
>> perfect shape.
>>
>> The only things I needed to do was install the front wheel, 
>> seatpost/saddle and handlebar/quill.  Connect the two brake cables and it 
>> was done.  I didn't have the patience to reinstall the front mudguard, 
>> though!
>>
>> I wasn't too sure about the *Guidonnet *brake levers but by the end of 
>> my ride today I'm thinking I could get really used to these.  Yeah.  
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Jeff
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>>   
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Re: [RBW] My New-to-Me Rambouillet

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Jeffrey. Good to know the guidonnets are still on the market.

Others: Any idea if the Dia Comp 139s would work with mechanical discs?
Probably don't pull enough cable  as I guess they're designed for
cantis or calipers. They would be nice on the MAP bar with cable discs,
though.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:23 PM Jeffrey Arita 
wrote:

> Patrick, thank you!
>
> The handlebars are Velo Orange *Porteurs*.  They measure out to about
> 48cm at the widest point (where the bar cons go).   The brake levers are
> Dia-Compe DC139s, I'm guessing nicknamed "Guidonnets."  I did a quick
> search and Blue Lug sells them, available in black only (Universal Cycles
> was out of stock).  Apparently they are available in either 22.2mm or
> 23.8mm clamp sizes.  They are an interesting design, I'm thinking designed
> to follow the curves of a porteur-style bar, enabling braking from many
> hand positions.
>
> I'm not certain if they would work (well) with mechanical disc brakes.  I
> would assume the two would need to be carefully paired together to ensure
> the cable pull of the DC139 is appropriate for whatever mechanical disc
> brake caliper is chosen.
>

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[RBW] FS: 120 mm OL silver Surly fixed/free hub, < 500 miles, $50 shipped CONUS

[Patrick Moore]

Hollow axle for QR or allen bolts. Built but ridden <500 miles because I've
been riding the AM hubbed wheel instead. Comes with both QR skewer and
allen bolts if you remind me.

Happy to ship outside CONUS but you must pay actual cost of shipping in
addition to the $50; the total of $50 + shipping will include a few $$ for
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for sharing that. I just turned 66, and this shows that at least for
some people there's riding life after retirement age (I'm not retired,
alas).

80+-year-old riders are pretty common one the Classics Rendezvous list, and
this video gained some positive comment there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUHxx3EcAY

Vladimir Lenin has a cameo role about 3-4 minutes in 

On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 11:27 AM Irv Hoffman  wrote:

> Thought someone might be interested in this story which appears in the
> current *Atlanta* magazine.
> All my rides were on a Romulus except my recent ride from ATL to Key West
> and back which was on a new Appaloosa. All were self contained with full
> loads.
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
know about his new bike?

Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
tiny hometown, pop 200. 

I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
announcement. Something...

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
> awesome. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I 
> am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>>
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>>
>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
>> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
>> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
>> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
>>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through this 
>>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of when 
>>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
 size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace 
> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
> a 
> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money 
> than 
> the big name parts makers. 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>>> off 
>>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final 
>>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>>> will 
>>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>>
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>>> gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
>>> Creek?!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
 wrote:

 


 Here’s a Platypus Easter twist

 Ray
 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This 
>> bike and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it witho

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
will be sure to get one. 

My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
better position, and ease of getting on and off. 

Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 

Jonathan P. 
Seattle, WA



On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
> know about his new bike?
>
> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
> account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
> tiny hometown, pop 200. 
>
> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
> announcement. Something...
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
>> awesome. 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
>>
>> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! 
>> I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>>
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>>>
>>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
>>> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
>>> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
>>> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
 just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through 
 this 
 afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of 
 when 
 we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?

 Jonathan
 Seattle, WA

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
> smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
> awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
>
>> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted 
>> there: The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the 
>> R90 
>> Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will 
>> ship with a different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB 
>> rear derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less 
>> money 
>> than the big name parts makers. 
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>>
>>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson, <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
 demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
 off 
 in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Hi Jonathan, 
Yes, this story is ringing a bell. I have both bikes and for what your dad is 
wanting to do, the Platy is the perfect choice. I don’t have any wild leg 
swinging. I step through the bike to get on, and when I’m coming to a stop I 
raise one leg and step off the bike while seated. Does that make sense? I 
should make a video... Anyway, it’s no big deal UNLESS you’ve been used to a 
step thru (I was with my Clem) and then you are annoyed that you have to lift 
your leg just a little bit higher. There are scores of Cheviot owners who also 
might chime in here...
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
> Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is for 
> me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I will be 
> sure to get one. 
> 
> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the San 
> Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized his 
> bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost the 
> mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He asked 
> me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c wheels. I 
> pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista Disc. He liked 
> the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with Soma in the past 
> so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with the Clem L at first 
> -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 mile rides around 
> vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus is a little lighter 
> and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire capability on the clem. 
> 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a fillet brazed stem all seem 
> like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a better position, and ease of 
> getting on and off. 
> 
> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
> effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
> 
> Jonathan P. 
> Seattle, WA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
>> know about his new bike?
>> 
>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
>> account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my tiny 
>> hometown, pop 200. 
>> 
>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid color 
>> and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and I are 
>> all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
>> announcement. Something...
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Emily
>>> 
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
 I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden Pliers! I 
 am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>>> 
 
 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA
 
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
> 
> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
> 
> Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm 
> PST. You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke. We're 
> going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so even 
> though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your order.
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was 
>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through 
>> this afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date 
>> of when we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> Seattle, WA
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>> As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
>>> size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as 
>>> the smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly 
>>> and awkward compared to the smaller sizes.
>>> 
 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:
 Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
 The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
 Sunrace mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike 
 will ship wit

[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT

[Jonny P]

I sent you a message! My dad is looking to buy a step through as he ages 
and cant get on his old bike easily anymore. Was going to build a platypus 
but this looks even better for his needs! If Bill doesn't want it, I do. 

Jonathan P. 
Seattle, WA

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Good grief what a build/price!  That's one bad ass Cheviut.  I emailed 
> some questions.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:
>
>> $1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
>> Hi Friends
>> I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired Sam 
>> Hillborne frameset.
>> Ceviot Specs:
>> Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are newer 
>> Schwalbe Marathon 
>> Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
>> Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
>> Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
>> Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
>> Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed.
>> Stem mounted shifter.
>> Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender clearance.
>> Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.
>>
>> Thanks for looking
>> DM off list is interested.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7
>>
>> Howard Hatten
>> Livonia Mi.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT

[Howard Hatten]

Sale Pending

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:15:56 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:

> I sent you a message! My dad is looking to buy a step through as he ages 
> and cant get on his old bike easily anymore. Was going to build a platypus 
> but this looks even better for his needs! If Bill doesn't want it, I do. 
>
> Jonathan P. 
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Good grief what a build/price!  That's one bad ass Cheviut.  I emailed 
>> some questions.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:
>>
>>> $1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
>>> Hi Friends
>>> I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired Sam 
>>> Hillborne frameset.
>>> Ceviot Specs:
>>> Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are newer 
>>> Schwalbe Marathon 
>>> Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
>>> Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
>>> Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
>>> Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
>>> Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed.
>>> Stem mounted shifter.
>>> Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender clearance.
>>> Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking
>>> DM off list is interested.
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7
>>>
>>> Howard Hatten
>>> Livonia Mi.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT SOLD

[Howard Hatten]

Thanks for all the interest

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:26:28 PM UTC-4 Howard Hatten wrote:

> Sale Pending
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:15:56 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> I sent you a message! My dad is looking to buy a step through as he ages 
>> and cant get on his old bike easily anymore. Was going to build a platypus 
>> but this looks even better for his needs! If Bill doesn't want it, I do. 
>>
>> Jonathan P. 
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Good grief what a build/price!  That's one bad ass Cheviut.  I emailed 
>>> some questions.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:
>>>
 $1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
 Hi Friends
 I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired Sam 
 Hillborne frameset.
 Ceviot Specs:
 Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are newer 
 Schwalbe Marathon 
 Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
 Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
 Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
 Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
 Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed.
 Stem mounted shifter.
 Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender clearance.
 Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.

 Thanks for looking
 DM off list is interested.
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7

 Howard Hatten
 Livonia Mi.

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT SOLD

[Howard Hatten]

SOLD

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-4 Howard Hatten wrote:

> Thanks for all the interest
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:26:28 PM UTC-4 Howard Hatten wrote:
>
>> Sale Pending
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:15:56 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> I sent you a message! My dad is looking to buy a step through as he ages 
>>> and cant get on his old bike easily anymore. Was going to build a platypus 
>>> but this looks even better for his needs! If Bill doesn't want it, I do. 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Good grief what a build/price!  That's one bad ass Cheviut.  I emailed 
 some questions.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:

> $1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
> Hi Friends
> I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired 
> Sam Hillborne frameset.
> Ceviot Specs:
> Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are 
> newer Schwalbe Marathon 
> Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
> Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
> Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
> Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
> Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are shimmed.
> Stem mounted shifter.
> Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender 
> clearance.
> Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.
>
> Thanks for looking
> DM off list is interested.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7
>
> Howard Hatten
> Livonia Mi.
>


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[RBW] FS: Albatross bar

[Eric Karnes]

Hi all. I have an Albatross bar that needs a new home. It's the 
heat-treated aluminum version (B352AA), and other than some tape adhesive 
(which I will clean off), it's in great shape. Only used a single season. 
Shoot me a PM if interested / PayPal friends and family / $65 shipped Conus 
/ $50 if you are in the Baltimore area and want to pick it up.

*Hopefully this works ok. I haven't posted since Google 'upgraded' Groups.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Jonny P]

Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision 
making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a 
little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity 
to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just 
what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down 
then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I 
called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 

Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 

Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?

Thank you both!

Jonathan P.
Seattle, WA 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>> will be sure to get one. 
>>
>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>
>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is 
>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>
>> Jonathan P. 
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your 
>>> dad know about his new bike?
>>>
>>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made 
>>> her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
>>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
>>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
>>> tiny hometown, pop 200. 
>>>
>>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
>>> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
>>> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
>>> announcement. Something...
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
 awesome. 

 Emily

 On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:

 I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden 
 Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!


 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Sunday, March 28,

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

Jonathan, I have both bikes. I’ll send you a video of them side by side and 
will mount/dismount so you can see what we’re working with. Sound good? 
Anything else I can do??
L

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision 
> making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a little 
> easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity to not 
> really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just what kind 
> of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down then the 
> swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I called and spoke 
> with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like difference in step through 
> height is negligible -- yet both of you make it seem it is more than that. A 
> little thinking to do, for certain. 
> 
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? Perhaps 
> I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying the frame 
> for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- it makes the 
> price difference not matter much. I want him to have a comfortable bike 
> sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
> 
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
> dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
> it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
> 
> Thank you both!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
> 
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 55cm 
>> Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher than 
>> where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where you 
>> lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the toptube 
>> to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're describing. I've 
>> also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and could easily step 
>> over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and look of the 
>> Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over ability is a 
>> priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would fit a Clem L 
>> very well in my opinion. 
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
>>> Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>> 
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
>>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
>>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
>>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
>>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
>>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>> 
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
>>> effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
 know about his new bike?
 
 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
 account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
 tiny hometown, pop 200. 
 
 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
 I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
 announcement. Something...
 
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
> 

[RBW] Re: Ride Report

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Irv,

That is a fantastic write-up. How do you stay in such good shape to ride 
that much? I am in my late thirties now and would love to continue riding 
as many years as you have. Also post a picture of your Appaloosa with your 
full load of camping gear!

Michael

On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:27:32 PM UTC-4 Irv Hoffman wrote:

> Thought someone might be interested in this story which appears in the 
> current *Atlanta* magazine.
> All my rides were on a Romulus except my recent ride from ATL to Key West 
> and back which was on a new Appaloosa. All were self contained with full 
> loads. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUHxx3EcAY

Start about 1:35 for the 80-somethings, and watch closely at about 1:54 to
see one of these old men dismount by casually swinging his leg over his
handlebar. He's far more supple than I at newly-66! And he had just ridden
101 miles to get to the meeting.

I can do that but I have to be very, very careful lest I fall down.

V I Lenin at about 2:00


On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 4:36 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a
> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher
> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where
> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the
> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're
> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and
> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and
> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over
> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would
> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion.
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call
>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not
>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is
>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I
>> will be sure to get one.
>>
>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the
>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized
>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost
>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He
>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c
>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista
>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with
>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with
>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15
>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus
>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire
>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a
>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a
>> better position, and ease of getting on and off.
>>
>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is
>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg?
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your
>>> dad know about his new bike?
>>>
>>> Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made
>>> her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly
>>> retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot,
>>> won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my
>>> tiny hometown, pop 200.
>>>
>>> I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid
>>> color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and
>>> I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service
>>> announcement. Something...
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be
 awesome.

 Emily

 On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:

 I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden
 Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!


 Jonathan P.
 Seattle, WA

 On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

>
> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>
> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at 12pm
> PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools joke.
> We're going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the Plattys so
> even though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to get to your
> order.
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Just to stave off others patiently waiting on this frame -- there was
>> just a post on Rivendell's IG page saying an email should come through 
>> this
>> afternoon and it *may* contain "long awaited" updates. Maybe a date of 
>> when
>> we can all order these frames direct from Rivendell?
>>
>> Jonathan
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 11:02:51 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Patrick Moore]

... I forgot to comment negatively on that very oddly constipated
radio/film/tv announcer accent that was common until the 1960s. Neither
upper class nor regional nor lower class; just "announcer." Very odd.
Comment made; h'over and h'out.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 6:42 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAUHxx3EcAY
>
> Start about 1:35 for the 80-somethings, and watch closely at about 1:54 to
> see one of these old men dismount by casually swinging his leg over his
> handlebar. He's far more supple than I at newly-66! And he had just ridden
> 101 miles to get to the meeting.
>
> I can do that but I have to be very, very careful lest I fall down.
>
> V I Lenin at about 2:00
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 4:36 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion.
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I
>>> will be sure to get one.
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off.
>>>
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is
>>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg?
>>>
>>> Jonathan P.
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your
 dad know about his new bike?

 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made
 her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot,
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my
 tiny hometown, pop 200.

 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and
 I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service
 announcement. Something...

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be
> awesome.
>
> Emily
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Jonny P  wrote:
>
> I just put down the deposit for my dad's 60cm Mermaid at Golden
> Pliers! I am so excited to see it and get it all built up!
>
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 11:14:38 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>>
>> It was in Friday’s mailer.   Yeah!!!
>>
>> *Platypus frames will be available to order Thursday April 1st at
>> 12pm PST. *You'll have to trust us that it isn't an April Fools
>> joke. We're going to finish all the Sam orders before starting on the
>> Plattys so even though you'll be able to buy one, we'll take awhile to 
>> get
>> to your order.
>> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Just to stave off others

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

"Step-over differences"

This is all very subjective but for me the difference of a couple inches is 
the difference between "that's super easy, I'm always doing it that way" 
and "that's kind of uncomfortable, I'll probably avoid it." My situation is 
a gradually creeping arthritis (it's a thing in my family) that's starting 
to sneak into my lower back/hips area, and some days are stiffer than 
others. Your dad may be more limber than I so this may not matter to him, I 
just know that half the time I try the step-over on my custom (or Susie) I 
end up kicking that dang tube. Ask me how I feel about scuffing the paint 
on my bikes! 

"Hilltopper"

Yep, I used it on an Appaloosa and it worked fine but I'm not comfortable 
recommeding on the slender forks Riv uses. I didn't keep mine on very long 
because it made me nervous, I would only use rear hub or mid-drive on a 
Rivbike now. 

I hope this information helps, just be aware that your dad may not 
experience ANY of this the way I've described it. 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 5:14:01 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>
> Thank you both!
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top 
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>>
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is 
>>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

Jonathan, 

Of course you're right about availability. The Platy is NOW and I don't 
have a clue when Clems are back. Personally I would jump NOW and not worry 
too much about toptube height. Compared to what he's used to the Platy is 
LOW. 

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:02:16 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Step-over differences"
>
> This is all very subjective but for me the difference of a couple inches 
> is the difference between "that's super easy, I'm always doing it that way" 
> and "that's kind of uncomfortable, I'll probably avoid it." My situation is 
> a gradually creeping arthritis (it's a thing in my family) that's starting 
> to sneak into my lower back/hips area, and some days are stiffer than 
> others. Your dad may be more limber than I so this may not matter to him, I 
> just know that half the time I try the step-over on my custom (or Susie) I 
> end up kicking that dang tube. Ask me how I feel about scuffing the paint 
> on my bikes! 
>
> "Hilltopper"
>
> Yep, I used it on an Appaloosa and it worked fine but I'm not comfortable 
> recommeding on the slender forks Riv uses. I didn't keep mine on very long 
> because it made me nervous, I would only use rear hub or mid-drive on a 
> Rivbike now. 
>
> I hope this information helps, just be aware that your dad may not 
> experience ANY of this the way I've described it. 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 5:14:01 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
>> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
>> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
>> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
>> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
>> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
>> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
>> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
>> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>>
>> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
>> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
>> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
>> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
>> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>>
>> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
>> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
>> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>>
>> Thank you both!
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
 up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
 actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
 for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
 will be sure to get one. 

 My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
 the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
 realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
 has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal 
 top 
 tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size 
 with 
 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena 
 Vista 
 Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
 Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
 the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
 mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The 
 Platypus 
 is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
 capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie B

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

According to James, Clems will be back in late April.

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 7:14:01 PM UTC-5 Jonny P wrote:

> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the 
> decision making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through 
> is a little easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW 
> propensity to not really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to 
> discern just what kind of difference we are talking about here. The steeper 
> angle down then the swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. 
> When I called and spoke with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like 
> difference in step through height is negligible -- yet both of you make it 
> seem it is more than that. A little thinking to do, for certain. 
>
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? 
> Perhaps I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying 
> the frame for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- 
> it makes the price difference not matter much. I want him to have a 
> comfortable bike sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
>
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? 
> My dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could 
> handle it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
>
> Thank you both!
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 
>> 55cm Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher 
>> than where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where 
>> you lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the 
>> toptube to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're 
>> describing. I've also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and 
>> could easily step over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and 
>> look of the Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over 
>> ability is a priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would 
>> fit a Clem L very well in my opinion. 
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call 
>>> up Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>>
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in 
>>> the San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He 
>>> realized his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he 
>>> has lost the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top 
>>> tube. He asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 
>>> 700c wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>>
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is 
>>> pretty effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>>
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your 
 dad know about his new bike?

 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made 
 her account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a 
 newly 
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
 tiny hometown, pop 200. 

 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’s neighbor, and 
 I are all Nurses On Platys. We should start a hashtag. Or a public service 
 announcement. Something...

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 12:10:55 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:

> Yay Jonathan! That’s where I’m getting my Platy too. It’s gonna be 
> awesome. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Mar 29, 2021, at 

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Leah Peterson]

I sent a video with stills to try to show the differences between Platy and 
Clem. It was rather hastily shot, and I should have worn pants instead of a 
tennis skirt so you could better gauge where that top tube hits,  but it’s 
passable. 

If anyone has Jonathan’s quandary about which Rivendell is better for you - 
step-over vs step-thru, email me and I’ll send the video your way.
Leah

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Jonny P  wrote:
> 
> Joe & Leah, thank you both for the replies. They're helpful in the decision 
> making process. It sounds from both of you like stepping through is a little 
> easier on the Clem than that Cheviot/Platypus. Given RBW propensity to not 
> really give frame measurements, it is hard for me to discern just what kind 
> of difference we are talking about here. The steeper angle down then the 
> swoop up on the Clem is probably the reason for that. When I called and spoke 
> with Will a few weeks ago, he made it sound like difference in step through 
> height is negligible -- yet both of you make it seem it is more than that. A 
> little thinking to do, for certain. 
> 
> Do we even know when the Clem L's will be back in stock? 2021? 2022? Perhaps 
> I am concerned that it might be a great deal of time, and my buying the frame 
> for a dad who has provided me with a good foundation in life -- it makes the 
> price difference not matter much. I want him to have a comfortable bike 
> sooner than later. But, maybe some wait is worth it. 
> 
> Joe -- If I recall, you put a Clean Republic Hilltopper on an Appaloosa? My 
> dad rides with one of these wheels. It seems the Clem or Platy could handle 
> it given the e-assist isn't really a huge amount of power. Thoughts?
> 
> Thank you both!
> 
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA 
> 
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:36:38 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> I'm an older fellow (soon to be 59) who's a little creaky, too. I had a 55cm 
>> Cheviot and now a 54cm custom with the toptube maybe a smidge higher than 
>> where it was on the Chev. With those bikes I still do the thing where you 
>> lean the bike way over and swing the leg over the saddle, I find the toptube 
>> to be a bit too much of a stretch to step over as you're describing. I've 
>> also owned a couple sizes of the Clem L, 45 and 52, and could easily step 
>> over to get on. I like the lugs and lighter tubes and look of the 
>> Cheviot/Platypus and custom (pictured) but if the step-over ability is a 
>> priority for your dad, the kind of riding he wants to do would fit a Clem L 
>> very well in my opinion. 
>> 
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:49:13 PM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>>> Well Emily & Leah -- The excitement was short lived. Kevin went to call up 
>>> Riv, and since I missed the initial pre-order, Golden Pliers could not 
>>> actually order my frame for dad. Guess that's Riv policy. Thursday it is 
>>> for me. I set a block of time on my calendar so no one will bug me and I 
>>> will be sure to get one. 
>>> 
>>> My dad does know this bike is being built for him. We spent a week in the 
>>> San Juan Islands riding our bikes and kayaking early in March. He realized 
>>> his bars on his surly were not high enough, his back hurt, and he has lost 
>>> the mobility to easily hop on and off a bike with a horizontal top tube. He 
>>> asked me what options there are for step throughs in his size with 700c 
>>> wheels. I pointed out the Clem, the Platypus, and the Soma Buena Vista 
>>> Disc. He liked the Soma for price, but I have had an awful experience with 
>>> Soma in the past so I ushered him to Rivendell. We were going to go with 
>>> the Clem L at first -- but he is mostly using this bike for daily 10-15 
>>> mile rides around vineyards and orchards in Cornelius, Oregon. The Platypus 
>>> is a little lighter and he didn't want to maximize to the 2.4" tire 
>>> capability on the clem. 700x45 on the Platypus with Billie Bars and a 
>>> fillet brazed stem all seem like they'll get his bars higher, his back in a 
>>> better position, and ease of getting on and off. 
>>> 
>>> Leah - is it your experience that getting on and off the Platypus is pretty 
>>> effortless and doesn't require a wild swing of the leg? 
>>> 
>>> Jonathan P. 
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:24:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 I’m so excited for you guys! Jonathan - is it a surprise or does your dad 
 know about his new bike?
 
 Today I texted Mom’s neighbor, who plans for a 50 in mermaid. She made her 
 account and will have her finger at the ready on April 1. She’s a newly 
 retired registered nurse, and what a gift to herself! Mom has a Cheviot, 
 won’t they be a cute pair of neighbors on their Riv mixtes? This, in my 
 tiny hometown, pop 200. 
 
 I was chatting with Kate, another nurse who is now getting the mermaid 
 color and I was musing about nurses and Platys - Kate, Mom’

[RBW] Re: FS: 60 CHEVIOT SOLD

[Bill Lindsay]

Congrats to the buyer.  That was a heckuva deal. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 3:31:46 PM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:

> SOLD
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-4 Howard Hatten wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the interest
>>
>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:26:28 PM UTC-4 Howard Hatten wrote:
>>
>>> Sale Pending
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 6:15:56 PM UTC-4 Jonny P wrote:
>>>
 I sent you a message! My dad is looking to buy a step through as he 
 ages and cant get on his old bike easily anymore. Was going to build a 
 platypus but this looks even better for his needs! If Bill doesn't want 
 it, 
 I do. 

 Jonathan P. 
 Seattle, WA

 On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Good grief what a build/price!  That's one bad ass Cheviut.  I emailed 
> some questions.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:31:40 AM UTC-7 Howard Hatten wrote:
>
>> $1850 Shipped  (CONUS)
>> Hi Friends
>> I'm selling my Cheviot to finance the build of my recently acquired 
>> Sam Hillborne frameset.
>> Ceviot Specs:
>> Wheelset: Cliffhanger 36 hole  with Son Delux dyno hub. Tires are 
>> newer Schwalbe Marathon 
>> Lighting is Luxos B, no taillight.
>> Crank is Sugino wide Low Double 
>> Rear deralier is Deore, no front derailer
>> Racks are Marks up front with wald basket. rear is Pletscher "clem"
>> Cockpit is Map Aherne bars inverted with Ergon grips. Bars are 
>> shimmed.
>> Stem mounted shifter.
>> Brakes are Tectro 559 on rear, Paul racer on front for fender 
>> clearance.
>> Saddle is Brooks B67. I have a couple other saddle options available.
>>
>> Thanks for looking
>> DM off list is interested.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kzZSmvc96LvaFZYH7
>>
>> Howard Hatten
>> Livonia Mi.
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: 61cm Romulus complete bike

[Nick Payne]

 I'm in Australia, so this would only be of possible interest to other 
Australians, as shipping internationally is both too much trouble and too 
expensive to countenance.

I'm selling a Romulus that I purchased new from Rivendell early this 
century. It was my commute bike until I retired a few years ago, and as 
I've hardly ridden it since then, I'm selling it. It still largely has the 
original parts that Riv supplied:

Nitto 46cm noodle bars
Nitto Technomic 120mm stem
Nitto S65 seatpost
Brooks B17s saddle
Shimano 105 headset
Shimano 105 5500 hubs (rear re-spaced to 135mm with Wheels Mfg axle)
Araya rims, 32h front, 36h rear, currently fitted with 28mm tyres
Shimano BR5500 57mm reach dual pivot brakes with Shimano aero levers
Deore XT 9-speed rear derailleur

parts that I have added or changed from the original spec:

Deore XT M737 170mm cranks, 42/30 chainrings
Shimano 9-speed chain and 11-32 cassette, both almost completely new
Phil Wood 96mm bottom bracket
Campagnolo Mirage front derailleur
Dura-Ace 7700 9-speed downtube shifters - can be easily toggled between 
index and friction
Berthoud stainless steel mudguards with Berthoud leather mudflap
Nitto R stainless steel bottle cage
Crank Bros Eggbeater pedals

The paintwork is in really good condition except for a scratch on the 
outside of one of the fork blades and another on the outside of the drive 
side chainstay. See photos linked below.

Price: $AU1500 plus shipping. Local pickup available if desired. I'm 
located in Canberra.

Photos of the bike: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XDhzdHT2s41UNETr9.

Nick Payne

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