[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud post-mount rack/bag combo
This is an insane deal! It's gonna cost Joe at least $25 just to ship it and it is one of the most beautiful bags around. The color matches that of the blue-gray Berthoud handlebar bags. When I see the Sackville TrunkSack described as a "miniature pirate's chest," this fits the bill perfectly, for a large pirate's overnight bag: Straps, brass buckles and rivets and leather everywhere! The rack is a marvel, too. No rack brazeons? No saddle loops? This rack just needs the seat post and you can raise or lower it as much as the seat post length allows. I've got one here in my home office (and the rack is in the garage). The bag would look just fine in a display case. A new one is 224.70 Euro (without the rack). David Lipsky Berkeley, CA On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 3:40:47 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > Bump and price drop, $100 shipped. At this point I want someone who could > use it to pay me just enough to bother boxing and shipping. It's gotta go! > > > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:13:19 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> The story behind this is I bought it some years ago, didn't use it long >> and sold it, then got it traded back to me a while back. Am I ever going to >> use it again? This seems increasingly unlikely so you should! Fits 27.2, >> with shim that works on 26.8. It's some insane price new now, I can't >> imagine anyone is paying that. How's about $170 shipped? >> >> Joe Bernard >> Marin County, CA. >> Text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623> for the way mo pics >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5d5e38f9-8b42-4f09-b062-76bacbbac892n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip
aeroperf, by the way, the two maps you can see in my initial Flickr album image are the "official" maps for both sections and free: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/51160526433/in/album-72157719131492162/ They can be very helpful planning your trip, but give me a shoutout if you have specific questions. Amtrak offers bike service on both ends (and mid-way in Cumberland) but don't expect the end of service the West Coast gets for trains. Usually one bike baggage car a day, not necessarily convenient hours either! On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 8:05:24 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote: > Hey aeroperf, this is my third time doing the trip on the Hillborne and it > does just beautifully well. It's up to carrying four panniers and the front > basket w/Sugarloaf bag, tent on the rear rack top, as you can see from the > photos. It's pretty stable and I ride in comfort thanks to the Moustache > bars and upright Nitto mountain stem. I'm running the old Vittoria > Randonneur / Voyager Hypers - very nice tires which I think are > discontinued now. I like to tour with fenders, so I'm using the 35mm > version, but would run 38mm's without fenders. > As to the East-to-West version of the GAPCO, we liked it fine. The only > drawback is the 3-hour climb out of Cumberland, Maryland up to the Eastern > Continental Divide. (As opposed to a rapid and fun decent going in the > other direction.) > For those who have not experienced it, The Great Allegheny Passage starts > in Pittsburgh, PA and ends in Cumberland, MD and the C Towpath Nat'l Park > picks up all the way into Washington D.C. We did about 50 miles a day for a > total of 350 miles, almost all off-road except our start riding from > (Amtrak) Union Station in DC to get to Milepost Zero on the C and the > arrival in Pittsburgh to reach our nearby hotel. (We reserved a mid-sized > SUV for our return to Richmond, Va., which you can see in the last few > images.) > > On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 6:30:39 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote: > >> Sorry, I see that it is the Great Allegheny Passage. I should have read >> more closely. >> Thanks for your post! >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e33015f7-1aaf-45c2-8963-c34e9cfc1a39n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip
Hey aeroperf, this is my third time doing the trip on the Hillborne and it does just beautifully well. It's up to carrying four panniers and the front basket w/Sugarloaf bag, tent on the rear rack top, as you can see from the photos. It's pretty stable and I ride in comfort thanks to the Moustache bars and upright Nitto mountain stem. I'm running the old Vittoria Randonneur / Voyager Hypers - very nice tires which I think are discontinued now. I like to tour with fenders, so I'm using the 35mm version, but would run 38mm's without fenders. As to the East-to-West version of the GAPCO, we liked it fine. The only drawback is the 3-hour climb out of Cumberland, Maryland up to the Eastern Continental Divide. (As opposed to a rapid and fun decent going in the other direction.) For those who have not experienced it, The Great Allegheny Passage starts in Pittsburgh, PA and ends in Cumberland, MD and the C Towpath Nat'l Park picks up all the way into Washington D.C. We did about 50 miles a day for a total of 350 miles, almost all off-road except our start riding from (Amtrak) Union Station in DC to get to Milepost Zero on the C and the arrival in Pittsburgh to reach our nearby hotel. (We reserved a mid-sized SUV for our return to Richmond, Va., which you can see in the last few images.) On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 6:30:39 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote: > Sorry, I see that it is the Great Allegheny Passage. I should have read > more closely. > Thanks for your post! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8b842e00-7ef3-4fdc-b451-b7c24c3159b5n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
Nice work Jason! I feel like I was there! Your side of the continent looks absolutely primordial compared to the Mid-Atlantic! Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 11:50:58 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote: > I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and > today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here > in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails > on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking > trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended > stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the > only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. > > I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved > parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. > > [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG] > > This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell > service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you > down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among > friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard > to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. > > [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG] > > From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a > marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km > into the valley and away from the city. > > [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg] > > This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with > grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. > Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far > between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're > now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. > > [image: IMG_2861.JPG] > > A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people > are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life > without full-coverage fenders! > > [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG] > > Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only > about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the > west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. > > [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg] > > The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's > the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that > winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on > local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, > considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away! > > [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG] > > This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full > 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep > downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. > > [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG] > > As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the > beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and > lichen covered trees. > > [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg] > > The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice > length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 > hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for > the rest of the evening! > > Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ea6277a5-54d8-442d-b204-03cb7cddd0b4n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: Berthoud post-mount rack/bag combo
Bump and price drop, $100 shipped. At this point I want someone who could use it to pay me just enough to bother boxing and shipping. It's gotta go! On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:13:19 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > The story behind this is I bought it some years ago, didn't use it long > and sold it, then got it traded back to me a while back. Am I ever going to > use it again? This seems increasingly unlikely so you should! Fits 27.2, > with shim that works on 26.8. It's some insane price new now, I can't > imagine anyone is paying that. How's about $170 shipped? > > Joe Bernard > Marin County, CA. > Text 415 786 4623 <(415)%20786-4623> for the way mo pics > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1a3500c1-dbed-481b-9851-7cbf1b34253bn%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip
Sorry, I see that it is the Great Allegheny Passage. I should have read more closely. Thanks for your post! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ff72ca8f-b8a0-4ff7-83c0-019300d5b068n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip
Was this route that they call The Great Allegheny Passage? https://www.aarp.org/travel/vacation-ideas/outdoors/info-2021/rail-trails-for-biking.html I’ve wanted to do that for a few years now. I’ve thought about using my Sam, but the trail seemed more suited for my Soma Saga tourer. How did the Sam hold up? What tires? Thanks for any further information! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9925ea43-e26e-4f1c-bc56-b3f290abf43cn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!
Vince knows his handlebars and stems and the best configuation. I'm getting a new stem this week. I'll report back how it goes. On Sun, May 23, 2021, 10:20 AM 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to catch up on the > handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to > the conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person. This > is the last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk > with Vince at Riv. So this week I'll have an answer. > Kate-Trenton, NJ > > On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. >> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I >> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring? >> >> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg] >> >> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >> >>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is >>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" >>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe." >>> >>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one: >>> >> >>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and >>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats." >>> >>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to >>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT?? >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> >>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe. Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position. Photos, please. On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Hi Friends, > > It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived > yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I > documented > in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was > too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the > winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new > Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the > interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in > a > hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion. > > The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a > reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term > for > bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The > drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep > way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first > appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter > and > has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the > Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the > clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature: the Boscos are a buck with > an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. > > So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I > know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, > broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think > you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more > ergonomic > the way your wrists meet those bar ends. > > Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a > stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated > climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. > I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. > Ever > ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a > bar > puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to > climb > a hill or
Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!
I’m sorry about your family emergency, Kate. Truly. The Billie Bars have since sold out, so we will have to wait until the next run, I suppose. I emailed Spencer to see if he will give us an ETA on the next run of Billie Bars. There’s also the Back In Stock button on the site. Sent from my iPad > On May 23, 2021, at 9:20 AM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to catch up on the > handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to the > conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person. This is the > last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk with Vince > at Riv. So this week I'll have an answer. > Kate-Trenton, NJ > >> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: >> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. >> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I >> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring? >> >> >> >>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not >>> a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's >>> that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe." >>> >> >>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one: >> >>> >>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and >>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats." >>> >> >>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to >>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT?? >>> >>> Joe Bernard >>> >> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe. Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position. Photos, please. > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson wrote: > Hi Friends, > > It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived > yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I > documented in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). > But, it was too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating > today, but the winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles > with my new Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but > in the interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new > Platys in a hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion. > > The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a > reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term > for bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. > The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and > sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first > appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter > and has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But > the Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of > the clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature: the Boscos are a buck > with an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. > > So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I > know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, > broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think > you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more > ergonomic the way your wrists meet those bar ends. > > Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem > for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated > climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was > awkward. I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my > hips. Ever ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?!
Re: [RBW] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
Cheers, Sam and Addison! Addison - I am running a 34T front ring to 11-42 as you guessed. For my terrain (and fitness) it's as good as it's going to get within that range; I use both the low and high end gears regularly, and not having another gear in either direction is usually only a minor inconvenience at most. Now, if I'm carrying a lot, I'll wish for more low end! I have all the parts to go to a 42-32-22 triple on those cranks, and will probably do so at some point for silly amounts of range On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 7:26 AM Addison Quarles wrote: > Jason, beautiful bike and beautiful documentation of your rides! > Can I ask what the gearing on your bike is like? Is that 11-42 in the > back? > Thanks! > -Addison > (I hope to reincarnate as a bike like yours!) > > On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:33:37 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote: > >> Inspiring >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 30, 2020, at 7:41 AM, greenteadrinkers >> wrote: >> >> Wow! Amazing loop! thanks for sharing! You mention bears and cougars, do >> you ever carry bear spray? >> Scott >> >> On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 5:02:46 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Very pretty photos. One of my favorite kinds of riding is dirt or gravel >>> roads or trails that are not technical, just like those you show. I live >>> close to a lot of them, but ours are sandy; tossup whether I'd prefer sand >>> or mud. >>> >>> This moves me to resolve to explore more of our trails north of where I >>> live, and spend half a day doing that, sometime soon! >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 9:51 PM Jason Fuller wrote: >>> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this region. I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG] This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG] From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km into the valley and away from the city. [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg] This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. [image: IMG_2861.JPG] A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life without full-coverage fenders! [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG] Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was only about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to the west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm now. [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg] The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away! [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG] This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG] As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and lichen covered trees. [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg] The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 hours and
[RBW] Re: Shimano discontinuing rim-brake hubs?
LOL, this sounds so much like carbon forks. The fear of death and destruction. On the other hand, if you listen to my buddies, you shouldn't be on disc brakes if you don't have the proper hydro disc brakes and thru axle. They probably look down at you at mechanical disc brakes and qr axles. LOL I'm still a rim brake hold out and have actually gotten some good deals as people want to "upgrade!" On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:27:22 PM UTC-7 George Schick wrote: > Chris - while there are other rim brake manufacturers (Paul, Tektro, etc.) > who are still making rim brakes, I think one of the concerns - and it has > been batted back and forth on this blog as well as by Grant on his own Blug > - is that if rim brakes disappear entirely (which I doubt) and cyclists are > forced to use disc brakes, they won't be able to do so without a front fork > change. AND, as Grant has pointed out, not all forks are built > substantially enough to work safely with disc brakes. One of the issues > discussed had to do with which side of the bike's fork the disc caliper is > located. > > Just this past week a cyclist in my area had a front wheel "fall off" > while riding on a path and he sustained serious head, face, and other > injuries. I'm waiting to find out the details, but I wouldn't be surprised > if the bike had a left-side disc brake mount and he hadn't tightened the QR > sufficiently, and it worked its way loose during hard braking. > > > On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 12:35:44 PM UTC-5 Christopher Cote wrote: > >> There is no practical reason at all that you couldn't run a disc-brake >> hub with a rim-brake rim. Maybe you can make a valid objection for >> aesthetic reasons, but it's hardly a reason for concern, IMHO. >> >> Chris >> >> >> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 11:01:36 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Per Grant's blog: >>> >>> *Shimano is going to stop making middle-to-upper end non-disc brake >>> hubs soon, road and mountain. * >>> >>> Thank God there is always Phil Wood. And no doubt vast quantities of old >>> Shimano rim-brake hubs buried in garages worldwide. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/57e76f88-029d-4068-92eb-cbe2da5e1e13n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!
After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to catch up on the handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to the conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person. This is the last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk with Vince at Riv. So this week I'll have an answer. Kate-Trenton, NJ On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote: > Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. > Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I > wonder if Blue Lug is hiring? > > [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg] > > On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is >> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" >> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe." >> >> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one: >> > >> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and >> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats." >> >> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to >> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT?? >> >> Joe Bernard >> >> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is >>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" >>> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe. >>> >>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I >>> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling >>> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and >>> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, >>> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and >>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 >>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so >>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers >>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position. >>> >>> Photos, please. >>> >>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson >>> wrote: >>> Hi Friends, It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I documented in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in a hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion. The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term for bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter and has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature: the Boscos are a buck with an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more ergonomic the way your wrists meet those bar ends. Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. Ever ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a bar puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to climb a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the
[RBW] My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip
While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 7-day trip from east-to-west in the opposite direction. A bit of a new perspective on the trails along the C Towpath in Maryland and the Great Allegheny Passage in Pennsylvania. I was on my Sam Hillborne, which is my dedicated touring bike, mostly. It serves me very well for this sort of thing. I have a Homer Hilsen I use for mixed-surface riding day trips and love it. It could probably handle touring, but I suspect the slightly stouter Hillborne is more reliable for multi-day loads. We chose to go a bit early, the end of April, and were met with a variety of weather conditions, from sunny (even hot) days to cold (down to freezing one night) with a bit of rain thrown in for fun. We were prepared for it so the cooler temps were welcomed. The benefits - especially this year when many more folks will undoubtedly be out riding these trails - were fewer trail users and more available campsites and fewer bugs along the Potomac River. (Not that is usually a big problem for us, even in the summer.) My Flickr trip album of the trip is chock full unfortunately - for my own memories - so I apologize in advance. This time around, however, I tried not to duplicate photos of the numerous and more recognizable landmarks for the GAPCO, which I have done before. https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157719131492162 Happy trails to all, Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4fccffeb-3f51-4db8-9d1b-54eb06929a04n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] FS- 2003 Riv Custom- Curt Goodrich- yes, Patrick Moores'.
On topic- Riv makes bikes for every person in that photograph!, and that's mostly why I love Rivendell... -Kai On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:05:13 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote: > Sorry, off topic I know, but I can't resist. I'm hardly anti-white; my > father was so WASP that people thought he was old British military. > > [image: image.png] > > > On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:51 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > >> One more addendum, regarding frame sizing. I am 5'10" but with an Asian >> build; if my torso were combined with Anglo legs, I'd be over 6' tall. My >> arms like my legs are shorter than the average Anglo's of my height. >> >> The exact right road bike size for me in level top tube frames is 60 X 56 >> or 57 c-c; this Curt frame matches that with a (3*?) upsloping tt. >> >> Talking (and Singing) of the Nordic Man by Hilaire Belloc >> I >> >> Behold, my child, the Nordic man, >> And be as like him, as you can; >> His legs are long, his mind is slow, >> His hair is lank and made of tow. >> >> II >> >> And here we have the Alpine Race: >> Oh! What a broad and foolish face! >> His skin is of a dirty yellow. >> He is a most unpleasant fellow. >> >> III >> >> The most degraded of them all >> Mediterranean we call. >> His hair is crisp, and even curls, >> And he is saucy with the girls. >> [Note: Belloc is mocking very popular and very common late 19th or very >> early 20th century neo-Darwinist eugenic ideologies of racial superiority.] >> >> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:36 PM Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Note: Primer on bottom front of rear dropouts is my doing. Chauncey >>> sourced extra-long dropouts from England, but I cut off 1/4" from the >>> bottom forward ends to ease axle entry/egress, primered the metal, but >>> never got around to a finish coat. For ss use the remaining slots will >>> accommodate at least 4 teeth if not 5, assuming that your small cog puts >>> the axle close to the end of the dropouts. >>> >>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 7:31 PM Patrick Moore wrote: >>> I'm sorry Tom didn't in the end like the Curt as well as I eventually ended up liking the Monocog he sent me in trade. Note that the level tt effective length is 57 or perhaps 56.5. Also, the Matthews replacement fork (made for Matthews 2:1) will accommodate 42 mm tires, and perhaps a bit wider, but won't accommodate 42s and fenders as it was supposed to do. The powdercoat is really first rate and worthy to replace the Joe Bell original paint. Integrated f and rear racks and internal light wiring. I would *not* set up Kojaks tubeless. I did that briefly but it was only air pressure holding the beads to the rims. But Kojaks ride well with tubes; they were my tire of choice after I decided that 26 X 1.25 Paselas just flatted too often (tho' Orange Seal regular formula in the Paselas' tubes will solve most puncture problems). Note taht at least with the Matthews fork and just possibly with the original fork you can use the superlative 42 mm RH Naches Pass. And of course you can without any restrictions at all use the also superlative 28 mm Elk Pass, with fenders. Curt Goodrich's workmanship is stellar, and the modifications by Dave Porter and Chauncey Matthews are well done, too. On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:02 PM Tom Palmer wrote: > Hi all, > I traded Patricks' current Monocog for this custom frame, forks, racks > and fenders. It took a while to get built and after riding, it is just > too > big. My plans were for a touring bike since the custom racks are > wonderful- > stiff and light. Patrick had it fixed gear and I have fixed gears and > single speeds, but with touring in mind, I geared it with a not too > hideous > claw mount and Suntour derailler. the frame is 57cm CtoC seat tube and > 56cm > CtoC top tube. I am unsure of the frame angles. A lot of info on this > frame > can be found by searching to archives for "03 Curt". Comes with 2 forks- > original for caliper brakes and custom Patrick had made with cantilevers > or V brakes. nitto Technomic stem and Noodle Bars with Cane creek levers. > Suntour power ratchet stem shifters shifting rear only- never had front > derailler. I rarely shift the front and would kick down to smaller ring > with foot if needed. I think grant calls it the stick method. Triple > front > crankset, Sugino XD with 50,42, 30 rings. I rode it in the 42 and never > needed a lower gear. I did not ride it a ton, being too stretched out but > tried it over a few different routes, one with a lot of hills. Rides good > loaded, the racks are great. The rear cluster is 7 speed, fairly wide, > 13-32 I believe. brakes are Tektro 559 front and Shimano 600 rear. > Hammered > fender installed on rear now, with cutout
Re: [RBW] Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
Jason, beautiful bike and beautiful documentation of your rides! Can I ask what the gearing on your bike is like? Is that 11-42 in the back? Thanks! -Addison (I hope to reincarnate as a bike like yours!) On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:33:37 PM UTC-7 Sam Perez wrote: > Inspiring > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 30, 2020, at 7:41 AM, greenteadrinkers > wrote: > > Wow! Amazing loop! thanks for sharing! You mention bears and cougars, do > you ever carry bear spray? > Scott > > On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 5:02:46 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > > Very pretty photos. One of my favorite kinds of riding is dirt or gravel >> roads or trails that are not technical, just like those you show. I live >> close to a lot of them, but ours are sandy; tossup whether I'd prefer sand >> or mud. >> >> This moves me to resolve to explore more of our trails north of where I >> live, and spend half a day doing that, sometime soon! >> >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 9:51 PM Jason Fuller wrote: >> >>> I had a particular route in mind when I bought this frameset from Joe, >>> and today I rode it (well, one version of it). It's just outside of town >>> here in Vancouver BC, and its quite special. We have an immense wealth of >>> trails on our north shore, though most are technical mountain bike or >>> hiking trails. I love those trails, but this route features the only >>> extended stretch of gravel that is fully closed to motorized traffic as >>> well as the only paved parkway that extends into the wilderness in this >>> region. >>> >>> I can ride it from my doorstep; it's about 11km to get to this paved >>> parkway - popular in summer, but pretty quiet nowadays. >>> >>> [image: IMG_2849rs.JPG] >>> >>> This path carves through the rainforest for about 5km, leaving cell >>> service behind, until a pretty hard-to-miss singletrack turnoff takes you >>> down a steep embankment to this grand clearing, known as The Spot among >>> friends here. Despite its established looks, it's both well hidden and hard >>> to access, and therefore goes unknown to many who ride this region. >>> >>> [image: IMG_2851rs.JPG] >>> >>> From here, my route follows a steep downhill stretch of singletrack to a >>> marsh, where a gravel access road begins and will take me a further 7km >>> into the valley and away from the city. >>> >>> [image: PXL_20201128_222541680.jpg] >>> >>> This access road, called Spur 4, used to be charming double-track with >>> grass up the middle but it was graded this year with fresh gravel. >>> Unfortunate. Bears and cougars inhabit this area and humans are few and far >>> between - combine this with the lack of cell service and the fact you're >>> now over 10km into the woods, it can be pretty humbling to ride alone. >>> >>> [image: IMG_2861.JPG] >>> >>> A connector trail brings you back to the main parkway, where most people >>> are. It was a little wet today, but that's fine by me. I can't imagine life >>> without full-coverage fenders! >>> >>> [image: IMG_2863rs.JPG] >>> >>> Above is the view of the lake, which is as far as you can go. It was >>> only about 2:30 but already the sun was falling behind the tall peaks to >>> the west; I'm far enough north that it's getting dark shortly after 4pm >>> now. >>> >>> [image: PXL_20201128_230524452.jpg] >>> >>> The first leg of the return route is called the Hatchery Trail, and it's >>> the highlight of the whole route for me. It's a non-technical trail that >>> winds through the moss-rich forest, including placards with information on >>> local wildlife. It's beautifully maintained and quite wonderous, >>> considering the nearest vehicle parking is 10km away! >>> >>> [image: IMG_2871rs.JPG] >>> >>> This puts you back on the paved parkway, which I followed for the full >>> 10km back out of the forest. At the parking lot, I followed a steep >>> downhill connector trail to the trail network to the east. >>> >>> [image: IMG_2877rs.JPG] >>> >>> As I dropped in elevation I entered a pre-sunset fog. Combined with the >>> beginnings of a sunset, it really made for a cool effect with the moss and >>> lichen covered trees. >>> >>> [image: PXL_20201129_000243149.jpg] >>> >>> The full route from my door falls a bit short of 60km, which is a nice >>> length for me - big enough to be rather epic, but can be done in about 4 >>> hours and leaves me with a bit of gas in the tank so I'm not a wreck for >>> the rest of the evening! >>> >>> Thanks for following along with my ride report / coming to my TED Talk! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8ac409e1-a5c4-4a7e-85cc-a570fdd7f2b8n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>>
[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17
Sold. On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 13:15:54 UTC-5 jeffbog...@hotmail.com wrote: > Bump and price drop, $55. > > On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 15:47:23 UTC-5 jeffbog...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Standard in honey color. Used but includes original packaging, wrench, >> proofide. $75 >> Please send PM for interest, thanks! >> >> Jeff >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d106c089-113b-4a9e-9e2b-4c572cb415f5n%40googlegroups.com.
