[RBW] FS: '85 Specialized Sequoia 63cm

[Mitch]

Hey all, I have officially run out of room for bike storage :( First on the 
chopping block... my tall sequoia!! I loved riding this bike when i had it 
650b it was a real great park ripper/slick commuter. One of my favorite 
bikes of all time. This is a rare bird in this size.. 

Located in SF.. would prefer local pick up but could be down to ship. 
Here's the linkage

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-1985-specialized-sequoia/7585806827.html

let me know you have any questions!

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[RBW] Re: Signing up for Scary Things: Intro to Bike Mechanics

[John Rinker]

Good on you, Leah! Being able to maintain and fix one's bicycle is just shy 
of the fun had in pedaling it. Carry on and one day you'll be building your 
own wheels!

Cheers, John
On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 8:06:12 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I can't true up a whole bent-outta-whack wheel and won't even try. I can 
> true one very small section that's wobbled a little off center and that's 
> about it, any more and it's going to the bike shop! 
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:31:40 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> It’s winter here in Michigan and business at the local bike shop is slow. 
>> The shop had a brilliant idea to host a class for a small number of 
>> students to teach basic bicycle maintenance/mechanics. Students were to 
>> bring their own bikes, which was wonderful because we would learn to work 
>> on what we actually have. Our teacher was quietly brilliant, extremely 
>> patient, and, well, dreamy. (I would love to set him up with my friend from 
>> my women’s club ride and then be in their wedding. Unable to ascertain his 
>> marital status without committing harassment, I am still in the throes of 
>> scheming.)
>>
>> I digress! 
>>
>> He taught us how the shop gives each bike a once-over. It’s an M shape, 
>> starting at the front wheel, going up to the bars, down to the pedal/chain 
>> ring, up to the saddle and down to that rear wheel. From there we moved on 
>> to wheel truing, derailleurs and shifters, and finally, brakes. 
>>
>> There were three of us in the class; one aluminum Trek with flat bars, a 
>> steel Jamis that had been ridden hard on the trainer in covid, and my 
>> raspberry Platypus. We all had V brakes. They had indexed shifting and I 
>> had friction. When examining our bikes, we/he found several problems 
>> (though not on the Platypus because I drag that bike in for every little 
>> thing) that we then observed our teacher fix. I now know what a loose 
>> headset sounds like (the Trek). Though, ironically, if you hit my front 
>> wheel to elicit the sound, the German mirror will respond with an identical 
>> sound. There are some skills that I still see best left to the experts - 
>> wheel truing, for instance. I audibly gasped when he took after the spokes 
>> of a wheel to mess them up for demonstration. I am leaving my new spoke 
>> wrench in the packaging because no good can come from that thing.
>>
>> I am still not brave enough to do a lot with tools to my bike, but I’m 
>> working on it. I like that some of the mystery was taken out of it all and 
>> I can see how parts work. Do I dare disclose here some of what I thought 
>> beforehand? Oh, fine. I thought a wheel out of true meant they had to bend 
>> a rim back into place. I had NO idea spokes were the culprit, nor did I 
>> know you could adjust them.  And so on and so forth.
>>
>> Our mechanic was so encouraging and told us we should experiment at home 
>> - don’t worry, he assured us, you won’t break anything. But I wonder if he 
>> will feel the same when I show up with my collection of redundant 
>> Rivendells; pieces and parts left over and collected after rolling around 
>> on my garage floor. “I have been fixing my bike and now it won’t work.” 
>>
>> Anyway, it’s a small step of self-betterment and I’ll keep walking that 
>> direction. I’m sure some of you out there can relate.
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Signing up for Scary Things: Intro to Bike Mechanics

[Joe Bernard]

I can't true up a whole bent-outta-whack wheel and won't even try. I can 
true one very small section that's wobbled a little off center and that's 
about it, any more and it's going to the bike shop! 

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 6:31:40 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> It’s winter here in Michigan and business at the local bike shop is slow. 
> The shop had a brilliant idea to host a class for a small number of 
> students to teach basic bicycle maintenance/mechanics. Students were to 
> bring their own bikes, which was wonderful because we would learn to work 
> on what we actually have. Our teacher was quietly brilliant, extremely 
> patient, and, well, dreamy. (I would love to set him up with my friend from 
> my women’s club ride and then be in their wedding. Unable to ascertain his 
> marital status without committing harassment, I am still in the throes of 
> scheming.)
>
> I digress! 
>
> He taught us how the shop gives each bike a once-over. It’s an M shape, 
> starting at the front wheel, going up to the bars, down to the pedal/chain 
> ring, up to the saddle and down to that rear wheel. From there we moved on 
> to wheel truing, derailleurs and shifters, and finally, brakes. 
>
> There were three of us in the class; one aluminum Trek with flat bars, a 
> steel Jamis that had been ridden hard on the trainer in covid, and my 
> raspberry Platypus. We all had V brakes. They had indexed shifting and I 
> had friction. When examining our bikes, we/he found several problems 
> (though not on the Platypus because I drag that bike in for every little 
> thing) that we then observed our teacher fix. I now know what a loose 
> headset sounds like (the Trek). Though, ironically, if you hit my front 
> wheel to elicit the sound, the German mirror will respond with an identical 
> sound. There are some skills that I still see best left to the experts - 
> wheel truing, for instance. I audibly gasped when he took after the spokes 
> of a wheel to mess them up for demonstration. I am leaving my new spoke 
> wrench in the packaging because no good can come from that thing.
>
> I am still not brave enough to do a lot with tools to my bike, but I’m 
> working on it. I like that some of the mystery was taken out of it all and 
> I can see how parts work. Do I dare disclose here some of what I thought 
> beforehand? Oh, fine. I thought a wheel out of true meant they had to bend 
> a rim back into place. I had NO idea spokes were the culprit, nor did I 
> know you could adjust them.  And so on and so forth.
>
> Our mechanic was so encouraging and told us we should experiment at home - 
> don’t worry, he assured us, you won’t break anything. But I wonder if he 
> will feel the same when I show up with my collection of redundant 
> Rivendells; pieces and parts left over and collected after rolling around 
> on my garage floor. “I have been fixing my bike and now it won’t work.” 
>
> Anyway, it’s a small step of self-betterment and I’ll keep walking that 
> direction. I’m sure some of you out there can relate.
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis fit question, and maybe purchase help

[Dave C]

Kurt, I would base this on whether or not I was running 32 mm tires or 42+ 
mm tires. I had a 61 cm frame that was fine with 32 but if I wanted to 
really use the generous tire clearance, the top tube was higher than 
desirable off road. From what I understand, a 56 cm with 26” tires could 
possibly be better for you if you are running large tires.

On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-8 Kurt Henry wrote:

> A recent thread about the red 58cm Toyo Atlantis for sale in the Bay Area (
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/vallejo-rivendell-atlantis-58/7578102714.html)
>  
> has brought back an old desire to have an early Atlantis.  It's a model 
> I've looked at for years but never pulled the trigger.  So that brings me 
> to my two questions.
>
> First, I should fit according to the brochure.  I'm 5'10" and run a 75cm 
> saddle height, which is the very bottom edge of a 58cm from that era.  The 
> 58.5 top tube would normally give me pause (~34/35" sleeve length) but I 
> want to run it with flat bars, as the red one is currently set up.  That 
> should help with the top tube length.  Has anyone of my rough dimensions 
> ridden a 58cm Toyo and can comment on their experience?
>
> Unless someone comes out of the last question screaming, "Danger, Will 
> Robinson" we move to my second question: is there a Rivver in the Bay Area 
> that would be willing to check it out for me, hand over the payment, and 
> drop it at a local shop that I could work with to pack and ship it?  I'm in 
> Pennsylvania and they state 'no shipping' in the ad.  I'm happy to 
> reimburse you for the trouble.
>
> Thanks everyone!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wolbis/Susie

[Ryan Frahm]

Thanks Joe! Over the last few years I just haven’t seen them sit very 
often. At least I don’t “need” to sell it. Spring time and tax return 
season is coming. Haha. 

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:37:04 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Great bike, great color, it's just kind of a niche within the Riv niche so 
> it'll take a while to find the right buyer. Spring is coming! 
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:54:38 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Keith, I appreciate that! I feel like it’s a pretty good deal 
>> so I’m happy to hear I’m not totally crazy there. Not in a rush for now but 
>> if it keeps sitting here I’m going to start riding it again soon! I took 
>> the saddle of to help temptation.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Don't give up, don't get impatient or desperate,  and don't entertain 
>>> low-ball offers.  This bike is almost perfect:  best size, best color, best 
>>> wheels, best crankset, best cockpit.  Someone just needs to realize it.  I 
>>> wish I could afford it right now  for a spare to my orange one.  Someone is 
>>> going to be very happy though
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Finally got it all back together and cleaned up. Put a new Jim 13-42 
 cassette on so I didn’t have to swap the other. Bike is ready to go!

 Asking $3000 +shipping OBO

 On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Frameset: $1700 + Shipping  (size large dark gold)
>
> Wheels: $650 + Shipping (Rich built Cliffhangers with WI hubs)
> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 11:26:15 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> I’d definitely prefer to just sell this complete so offers are 
>> welcome! I will entertain offers on the frameset or wheels as well 
>> though. 
>> People have asked but the offer has to be reasonable. Thanks!
>>
>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:29:10 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> I decided not to sell the SimWorks Sugar built wheels so I thought 
>>> I’d post some pictures of it right now. In the middle of cleaning the 
>>> drivetrain so that’s why the cassette and chain are off. I was going to 
>>> swap the brake levers for the Shimano DXR to match the brakes and lower 
>>> the 
>>> price. (Ran out of time so the Paul levers are still pictured)
>>>
>>> Rich built WI hub wheelset.
>>> 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
>>> Nitto S65 seatpost.
>>> DXR brakes and levers. 
>>> 2.5” Teravail Ehline
>>> Silver cranks.
>>> Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.
>>>
>>> Asking $3250 + shipping 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:38:48 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 Bumping this back up. I’m flexible on some build options so let me 
 know if there is any interest! 

 On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 11:05:40 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> I meant to put on the listing and forgot… I also have a set of 
> Rich built cliffhanger wheels with White Industries hubs front and 
> rear. 
> Wheels have 4-500 miles like the frame. Very nice wheels of course 
> but not 
> quite as spendy as the Sugar set with some use. With those wheels 
> maybe 
> $3500 is a better deal for someone?
>
> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:38:18 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> [image: B414C93E-86E6-47E9-9F76-5FCD4A1E37EE.jpeg][image: 
>> 871130E7-A72E-4F9D-9880-C035FD4D722C.jpeg][image: 
>> D74EFB62-6BA6-439B-8DC5-3547DAEDAE1D.jpeg]
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:21:13 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 77FC4744-B1FF-4403-8C3E-F8B6F9122F75.jpeg][image: 
>>> FCADB7EA-E8A7-4109-A3B4-3742F8072E3B.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:20:26 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 [image: 95302D0C-F5C7-4A64-B924-9AE914701B79.jpeg][image: 
 873B4F93-7B81-4CE1-BD27-8D38063046CB.jpeg][image: 
 F3EE6092-DC1D-4BAF-9711-E99021E82707.jpeg]

 On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:17:58 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
 wrote:

> I want to say first off that I really love this bike! I ended 
> up picking up a Clem H to use as my commuter so that the Susie 
> wouldn’t get 
> as beat up. Turns out, I like the Clem almost as much in reality 
> and a few 
> things have happened recently so I’m listing this one.
>
> Wolbis/Susie, I got the frame in April ‘22 size Large/56 Dark 
> Gold 29” wheels.
>
> Sugar Wheelworks build SimWorks Standalone (Cliffhanger) 
> wheels with CX-Ray spokes, 

[RBW] Re: FS: Wolbis/Susie

[Joe Bernard]

Great bike, great color, it's just kind of a niche within the Riv niche so 
it'll take a while to find the right buyer. Spring is coming! 

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:54:38 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Keith, I appreciate that! I feel like it’s a pretty good deal so 
> I’m happy to hear I’m not totally crazy there. Not in a rush for now but if 
> it keeps sitting here I’m going to start riding it again soon! I took the 
> saddle of to help temptation.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Don't give up, don't get impatient or desperate,  and don't entertain 
>> low-ball offers.  This bike is almost perfect:  best size, best color, best 
>> wheels, best crankset, best cockpit.  Someone just needs to realize it.  I 
>> wish I could afford it right now  for a spare to my orange one.  Someone is 
>> going to be very happy though
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Finally got it all back together and cleaned up. Put a new Jim 13-42 
>>> cassette on so I didn’t have to swap the other. Bike is ready to go!
>>>
>>> Asking $3000 +shipping OBO
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 Frameset: $1700 + Shipping  (size large dark gold)

 Wheels: $650 + Shipping (Rich built Cliffhangers with WI hubs)
 On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 11:26:15 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> I’d definitely prefer to just sell this complete so offers are 
> welcome! I will entertain offers on the frameset or wheels as well 
> though. 
> People have asked but the offer has to be reasonable. Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:29:10 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> I decided not to sell the SimWorks Sugar built wheels so I thought 
>> I’d post some pictures of it right now. In the middle of cleaning the 
>> drivetrain so that’s why the cassette and chain are off. I was going to 
>> swap the brake levers for the Shimano DXR to match the brakes and lower 
>> the 
>> price. (Ran out of time so the Paul levers are still pictured)
>>
>> Rich built WI hub wheelset.
>> 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
>> Nitto S65 seatpost.
>> DXR brakes and levers. 
>> 2.5” Teravail Ehline
>> Silver cranks.
>> Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.
>>
>> Asking $3250 + shipping 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:38:48 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> Bumping this back up. I’m flexible on some build options so let me 
>>> know if there is any interest! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 11:05:40 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 I meant to put on the listing and forgot… I also have a set of Rich 
 built cliffhanger wheels with White Industries hubs front and rear. 
 Wheels 
 have 4-500 miles like the frame. Very nice wheels of course but not 
 quite 
 as spendy as the Sugar set with some use. With those wheels maybe 
 $3500 is 
 a better deal for someone?

 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:38:18 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> [image: B414C93E-86E6-47E9-9F76-5FCD4A1E37EE.jpeg][image: 
> 871130E7-A72E-4F9D-9880-C035FD4D722C.jpeg][image: 
> D74EFB62-6BA6-439B-8DC5-3547DAEDAE1D.jpeg]
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:21:13 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> [image: 77FC4744-B1FF-4403-8C3E-F8B6F9122F75.jpeg][image: 
>> FCADB7EA-E8A7-4109-A3B4-3742F8072E3B.jpeg]
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:20:26 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 95302D0C-F5C7-4A64-B924-9AE914701B79.jpeg][image: 
>>> 873B4F93-7B81-4CE1-BD27-8D38063046CB.jpeg][image: 
>>> F3EE6092-DC1D-4BAF-9711-E99021E82707.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:17:58 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 I want to say first off that I really love this bike! I ended 
 up picking up a Clem H to use as my commuter so that the Susie 
 wouldn’t get 
 as beat up. Turns out, I like the Clem almost as much in reality 
 and a few 
 things have happened recently so I’m listing this one.

 Wolbis/Susie, I got the frame in April ‘22 size Large/56 Dark 
 Gold 29” wheels.

 Sugar Wheelworks build SimWorks Standalone (Cliffhanger) wheels 
 with CX-Ray spokes, White Industries MI5 rear hub and Son 28 up 
 front. 
 These wheels have less than 50 miles on them. 

 The pictures show Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge tires but I’d plan 
 to put the Ehline 2.5” back on. They have not quite 500 miles on 
 them. 
 Tubeless with Orange Seal. 

Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

[Russell Duncan]

[image: 5F5BE508-C13A-48CB-9BB5-1DAFEB1E18B3.jpeg]I forgot to say that 
these are an option too: SHIMANO PD-M324 SPD Dual Platform Pedals. They’re 
easy on the purse too; however, these fit my partner’s smaller feet best; 
me not so much.


Russell Duncan
As above

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 2:31:16 PM UTC-5 Russell Duncan wrote:

> [image: 5C6F23B7-0673-4D30-9168-56F20E8EC276.png]I’m using dual purpose 
> Shimano XT PD-T8000 SPD pedals on my Surly Cross X Check. The MKS Solution 
> pedals also look like a good choice. 
>
> Russell Duncan
> Leverett, MA USA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 12:42:30 PM UTC-5 George Cline wrote:
>
>> I second, (or third?), the recommendation of Shimano SPD's. They work 
>> great and you can easily walk with SPD shoes!
>>
>> George in NoCal
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 8:10:55 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> I have Speedplay zero pedals on my road bikes and I really like them. 
>>> Easy to clip in and out. Only down side is that mud or snow can get into 
>>> the cleat which can make it hard to clip in, just need to clean the cleat 
>>> first.
>>>
>>> The MKS Solution pedal looks interesting, one side is a platform and the 
>>> other is SPD. I don't have them, but I'm thinking about it.
>>>
>>> https://global.bluelug.com/mks-solution-pedal-blue.html
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:25:33 AM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have the EH-500 on my All Road bike. I guess I recently bought it out 
 of habit. I used to have a pair on my ride everywhere bike (which was 
 stolen). I liked how I could hop on and ride to the bars or out with 
 friends, and I could still go on a longer purposeful ride. Haven't used 
 the 
 clip side for years, but still like the option, I guess! The spikes go in 
 quite easily on the flats side. They do go on sales every once in a while. 
 Shoes are a whole other can of worms!

 On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:13:37 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've used almost all the different pedal types (I've not used Time or 
> Crank Brothers but I have used Sampsons and WTBs and Graftons) including 
> clips and straps and I wholeheartedly recommend Shimano SPD pedals. 
> PDm520s 
> are inexpensive and durable and work fine. Some of the SPD clones -- 
> Ritcheys and Wellgo for example -- work well too, though SPDs seem to 
> engage and release better than any other make, even Shimano's lower cost 
> models. And you can often find SPDs used at low prices if you care to try 
> before spending a great deal.
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Dick Pahle  wrote:
>
>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different 
>> kinds/styles/types. 
>>
>> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
>> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me 
>> with 
>> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
>> cleats.
>>
>> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>>
>> dick
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Wolbis/Susie

[Ryan Frahm]

Thank you Keith, I appreciate that! I feel like it’s a pretty good deal so 
I’m happy to hear I’m not totally crazy there. Not in a rush for now but if 
it keeps sitting here I’m going to start riding it again soon! I took the 
saddle of to help temptation.

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:

> Don't give up, don't get impatient or desperate,  and don't entertain 
> low-ball offers.  This bike is almost perfect:  best size, best color, best 
> wheels, best crankset, best cockpit.  Someone just needs to realize it.  I 
> wish I could afford it right now  for a spare to my orange one.  Someone is 
> going to be very happy though
>
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Finally got it all back together and cleaned up. Put a new Jim 13-42 
>> cassette on so I didn’t have to swap the other. Bike is ready to go!
>>
>> Asking $3000 +shipping OBO
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> Frameset: $1700 + Shipping  (size large dark gold)
>>>
>>> Wheels: $650 + Shipping (Rich built Cliffhangers with WI hubs)
>>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 11:26:15 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 I’d definitely prefer to just sell this complete so offers are welcome! 
 I will entertain offers on the frameset or wheels as well though. People 
 have asked but the offer has to be reasonable. Thanks!

 On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:29:10 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> I decided not to sell the SimWorks Sugar built wheels so I thought I’d 
> post some pictures of it right now. In the middle of cleaning the 
> drivetrain so that’s why the cassette and chain are off. I was going to 
> swap the brake levers for the Shimano DXR to match the brakes and lower 
> the 
> price. (Ran out of time so the Paul levers are still pictured)
>
> Rich built WI hub wheelset.
> 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
> Nitto S65 seatpost.
> DXR brakes and levers. 
> 2.5” Teravail Ehline
> Silver cranks.
> Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.
>
> Asking $3250 + shipping 
>
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:38:48 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Bumping this back up. I’m flexible on some build options so let me 
>> know if there is any interest! 
>>
>> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 11:05:40 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> I meant to put on the listing and forgot… I also have a set of Rich 
>>> built cliffhanger wheels with White Industries hubs front and rear. 
>>> Wheels 
>>> have 4-500 miles like the frame. Very nice wheels of course but not 
>>> quite 
>>> as spendy as the Sugar set with some use. With those wheels maybe $3500 
>>> is 
>>> a better deal for someone?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:38:18 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 [image: B414C93E-86E6-47E9-9F76-5FCD4A1E37EE.jpeg][image: 
 871130E7-A72E-4F9D-9880-C035FD4D722C.jpeg][image: 
 D74EFB62-6BA6-439B-8DC5-3547DAEDAE1D.jpeg]

 On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:21:13 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> [image: 77FC4744-B1FF-4403-8C3E-F8B6F9122F75.jpeg][image: 
> FCADB7EA-E8A7-4109-A3B4-3742F8072E3B.jpeg]
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:20:26 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> [image: 95302D0C-F5C7-4A64-B924-9AE914701B79.jpeg][image: 
>> 873B4F93-7B81-4CE1-BD27-8D38063046CB.jpeg][image: 
>> F3EE6092-DC1D-4BAF-9711-E99021E82707.jpeg]
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:17:58 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> I want to say first off that I really love this bike! I ended up 
>>> picking up a Clem H to use as my commuter so that the Susie 
>>> wouldn’t get as 
>>> beat up. Turns out, I like the Clem almost as much in reality and a 
>>> few 
>>> things have happened recently so I’m listing this one.
>>>
>>> Wolbis/Susie, I got the frame in April ‘22 size Large/56 Dark 
>>> Gold 29” wheels.
>>>
>>> Sugar Wheelworks build SimWorks Standalone (Cliffhanger) wheels 
>>> with CX-Ray spokes, White Industries MI5 rear hub and Son 28 up 
>>> front. 
>>> These wheels have less than 50 miles on them. 
>>>
>>> The pictures show Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge tires but I’d plan to 
>>> put the Ehline 2.5” back on. They have not quite 500 miles on them. 
>>> Tubeless with Orange Seal. 
>>>
>>> Rivendell 2 piece crankset 32/22 some scratches near the spindle 
>>> drive side but otherwise like new. New Race Face BB. 
>>>
>>> Nitto S65 seatpost. 
>>>
>>> MKS Bear Trap pedals. Scratched cages but still good shape. 
>>>
>>> Tosco 65cm with 135mm FacePlater stem. 

[RBW] Re: FS: Wolbis/Susie

[iamkeith]

Don't give up, don't get impatient or desperate,  and don't entertain 
low-ball offers.  This bike is almost perfect:  best size, best color, best 
wheels, best crankset, best cockpit.  Someone just needs to realize it.  I 
wish I could afford it right now  for a spare to my orange one.  Someone is 
going to be very happy though


On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Finally got it all back together and cleaned up. Put a new Jim 13-42 
> cassette on so I didn’t have to swap the other. Bike is ready to go!
>
> Asking $3000 +shipping OBO
>
> On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Frameset: $1700 + Shipping  (size large dark gold)
>>
>> Wheels: $650 + Shipping (Rich built Cliffhangers with WI hubs)
>> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 11:26:15 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> I’d definitely prefer to just sell this complete so offers are welcome! 
>>> I will entertain offers on the frameset or wheels as well though. People 
>>> have asked but the offer has to be reasonable. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:29:10 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 I decided not to sell the SimWorks Sugar built wheels so I thought I’d 
 post some pictures of it right now. In the middle of cleaning the 
 drivetrain so that’s why the cassette and chain are off. I was going to 
 swap the brake levers for the Shimano DXR to match the brakes and lower 
 the 
 price. (Ran out of time so the Paul levers are still pictured)

 Rich built WI hub wheelset.
 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
 Nitto S65 seatpost.
 DXR brakes and levers. 
 2.5” Teravail Ehline
 Silver cranks.
 Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.

 Asking $3250 + shipping 

 On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:38:48 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Bumping this back up. I’m flexible on some build options so let me 
> know if there is any interest! 
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 11:05:40 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> I meant to put on the listing and forgot… I also have a set of Rich 
>> built cliffhanger wheels with White Industries hubs front and rear. 
>> Wheels 
>> have 4-500 miles like the frame. Very nice wheels of course but not 
>> quite 
>> as spendy as the Sugar set with some use. With those wheels maybe $3500 
>> is 
>> a better deal for someone?
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 4:38:18 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> [image: B414C93E-86E6-47E9-9F76-5FCD4A1E37EE.jpeg][image: 
>>> 871130E7-A72E-4F9D-9880-C035FD4D722C.jpeg][image: 
>>> D74EFB62-6BA6-439B-8DC5-3547DAEDAE1D.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:21:13 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 [image: 77FC4744-B1FF-4403-8C3E-F8B6F9122F75.jpeg][image: 
 FCADB7EA-E8A7-4109-A3B4-3742F8072E3B.jpeg]

 On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:20:26 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> [image: 95302D0C-F5C7-4A64-B924-9AE914701B79.jpeg][image: 
> 873B4F93-7B81-4CE1-BD27-8D38063046CB.jpeg][image: 
> F3EE6092-DC1D-4BAF-9711-E99021E82707.jpeg]
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 9:17:58 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> I want to say first off that I really love this bike! I ended up 
>> picking up a Clem H to use as my commuter so that the Susie wouldn’t 
>> get as 
>> beat up. Turns out, I like the Clem almost as much in reality and a 
>> few 
>> things have happened recently so I’m listing this one.
>>
>> Wolbis/Susie, I got the frame in April ‘22 size Large/56 Dark 
>> Gold 29” wheels.
>>
>> Sugar Wheelworks build SimWorks Standalone (Cliffhanger) wheels 
>> with CX-Ray spokes, White Industries MI5 rear hub and Son 28 up 
>> front. 
>> These wheels have less than 50 miles on them. 
>>
>> The pictures show Rene Herse Fleecer Ridge tires but I’d plan to 
>> put the Ehline 2.5” back on. They have not quite 500 miles on them. 
>> Tubeless with Orange Seal. 
>>
>> Rivendell 2 piece crankset 32/22 some scratches near the spindle 
>> drive side but otherwise like new. New Race Face BB. 
>>
>> Nitto S65 seatpost. 
>>
>> MKS Bear Trap pedals. Scratched cages but still good shape. 
>>
>> Tosco 65cm with 135mm FacePlater stem. 
>>
>> Paul Components Love Lever 2.5 with Paul Motolite brakes. (Not 
>> pictured, it has been cold and I haven’t been riding this bike in 
>> the bad 
>> weather, they’re new in the box)
>>
>> Jim 7 speed cassette 13-42 with Sram GX 10 speed derailleur and 
>> Silver shifter. KMC 10 speed EBike chain rated for 4500 miles. Works 
>> great 
>> with lots of low range. 

[RBW] ISO/WTB tall 120mm quill stem 25.4 with removeable faceplate

[BobW]

Been scouring the forums & websites for something like the Rive Faceplater 
for 25.4 bar with a 120mm reach, and tall.  Very  to used in decent shape.

Anyone have one hey want to be rid of? or know of where one can be 
obtained??

thanks!!
Bob

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Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

[George Cline]

I second, (or third?), the recommendation of Shimano SPD's. They work great 
and you can easily walk with SPD shoes!

George in NoCal

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 8:10:55 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:

> I have Speedplay zero pedals on my road bikes and I really like them. Easy 
> to clip in and out. Only down side is that mud or snow can get into the 
> cleat which can make it hard to clip in, just need to clean the cleat first.
>
> The MKS Solution pedal looks interesting, one side is a platform and the 
> other is SPD. I don't have them, but I'm thinking about it.
>
> https://global.bluelug.com/mks-solution-pedal-blue.html
>
> JohnS
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:25:33 AM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have the EH-500 on my All Road bike. I guess I recently bought it out 
>> of habit. I used to have a pair on my ride everywhere bike (which was 
>> stolen). I liked how I could hop on and ride to the bars or out with 
>> friends, and I could still go on a longer purposeful ride. Haven't used the 
>> clip side for years, but still like the option, I guess! The spikes go in 
>> quite easily on the flats side. They do go on sales every once in a while. 
>> Shoes are a whole other can of worms!
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:13:37 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I've used almost all the different pedal types (I've not used Time or 
>>> Crank Brothers but I have used Sampsons and WTBs and Graftons) including 
>>> clips and straps and I wholeheartedly recommend Shimano SPD pedals. PDm520s 
>>> are inexpensive and durable and work fine. Some of the SPD clones -- 
>>> Ritcheys and Wellgo for example -- work well too, though SPDs seem to 
>>> engage and release better than any other make, even Shimano's lower cost 
>>> models. And you can often find SPDs used at low prices if you care to try 
>>> before spending a great deal.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Dick Pahle  wrote:
>>>
 trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
 toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
 thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
 out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 

 road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
 mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with 
 one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
 cleats.

 thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.

 dick

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Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

[JohnS]

I have Speedplay zero pedals on my road bikes and I really like them. Easy 
to clip in and out. Only down side is that mud or snow can get into the 
cleat which can make it hard to clip in, just need to clean the cleat first.

The MKS Solution pedal looks interesting, one side is a platform and the 
other is SPD. I don't have them, but I'm thinking about it.

https://global.bluelug.com/mks-solution-pedal-blue.html

JohnS

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:25:33 AM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I have the EH-500 on my All Road bike. I guess I recently bought it out of 
> habit. I used to have a pair on my ride everywhere bike (which was stolen). 
> I liked how I could hop on and ride to the bars or out with friends, and I 
> could still go on a longer purposeful ride. Haven't used the clip side for 
> years, but still like the option, I guess! The spikes go in quite easily on 
> the flats side. They do go on sales every once in a while. Shoes are a 
> whole other can of worms!
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:13:37 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've used almost all the different pedal types (I've not used Time or 
>> Crank Brothers but I have used Sampsons and WTBs and Graftons) including 
>> clips and straps and I wholeheartedly recommend Shimano SPD pedals. PDm520s 
>> are inexpensive and durable and work fine. Some of the SPD clones -- 
>> Ritcheys and Wellgo for example -- work well too, though SPDs seem to 
>> engage and release better than any other make, even Shimano's lower cost 
>> models. And you can often find SPDs used at low prices if you care to try 
>> before spending a great deal.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Dick Pahle  wrote:
>>
>>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with 
>>> toe clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have 
>>> thoughts about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and 
>>> out of. i get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>>
>>> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
>>> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with 
>>> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
>>> cleats.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>>>
>>> dick
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: TA Specialites Zephyr Crankset, 9sp Ultegra Drivetrain, Silver DT Shifters

[Michael Ullmer]

All sold, thanks all

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 7:29:39 AM UTC-6 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I'm swapping out the drivetrain on the Ram I picked up a few months back 
> and have these extra for sale.
>
> 1) TA Specialites Zephyr Triple Crankset 172.5 - $250
> --The 48 and 36 rings are 110 bcd and the 28 ring is 74 bcd. This also 
> have a smaller spider with a 56 bcd. Still quite shiny, I didn't get to 
> taking these apart and cleaning them thoroughly.
>
> 2) Ultegra 6500 9sp Drivetrain - $60
> --Ultegra 6500 Triple Front and Rear Derailleur. 12-27t 9 sp cassette and 
> chain. Chain and cassette are dirty/used, but the chain didn't show stretch 
> when I measured it.
>
> 3) Silver DT Shifters - $40
> --A few marks but still quite shiny. These have the plastic washer so are 
> probably an early version.
>
> Or buy the whole lot for $300
>
> Prices are net to me. I'll use Pirateship to generate a shipping estimate.
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/FZXL8U7yJsWfi6NMA
>
> Mike in Minneaepolis
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Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

[matt miller]

I have the EH-500 on my All Road bike. I guess I recently bought it out of 
habit. I used to have a pair on my ride everywhere bike (which was stolen). 
I liked how I could hop on and ride to the bars or out with friends, and I 
could still go on a longer purposeful ride. Haven't used the clip side for 
years, but still like the option, I guess! The spikes go in quite easily on 
the flats side. They do go on sales every once in a while. Shoes are a 
whole other can of worms!

On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 9:13:37 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've used almost all the different pedal types (I've not used Time or 
> Crank Brothers but I have used Sampsons and WTBs and Graftons) including 
> clips and straps and I wholeheartedly recommend Shimano SPD pedals. PDm520s 
> are inexpensive and durable and work fine. Some of the SPD clones -- 
> Ritcheys and Wellgo for example -- work well too, though SPDs seem to 
> engage and release better than any other make, even Shimano's lower cost 
> models. And you can often find SPDs used at low prices if you care to try 
> before spending a great deal.
>
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Dick Pahle  wrote:
>
>> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with toe 
>> clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have thoughts 
>> about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and out of. i 
>> get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 
>>
>> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano 
>> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with 
>> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with 
>> cleats.
>>
>> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>>
>> dick
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Re: [RBW] Pedal Question

[Patrick Moore]

I've used almost all the different pedal types (I've not used Time or Crank
Brothers but I have used Sampsons and WTBs and Graftons) including clips
and straps and I wholeheartedly recommend Shimano SPD pedals. PDm520s are
inexpensive and durable and work fine. Some of the SPD clones -- Ritcheys
and Wellgo for example -- work well too, though SPDs seem to engage and
release better than any other make, even Shimano's lower cost models. And
you can often find SPDs used at low prices if you care to try before
spending a great deal.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 7:17 AM Dick Pahle  wrote:

> trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with toe
> clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have thoughts
> about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and out of. i
> get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types.
>
> road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano
> mountain bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with
> one side suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with
> cleats.
>
> thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.
>
> dick
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[RBW] Pedal Question

[Dick Pahle]

trust  its ok to ask for product recomendation here. been riding with toe 
clips forever and ready to switch to clipless. anyone here have thoughts 
about a good pedal for a beginner. something easy to get in and out of. i 
get indegestion looking at all the different kinds/styles/types. 

road ride mostly but I've seen online recomendations for a shimano mountain 
bike pedal. some of the two sided ones look appealing to me with one side 
suitable for regular shoes and the other for clipping in with cleats.

thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.

dick

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[RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis fit question, and maybe purchase help

[Justin Dedini]

Hey Kurt. I also am 5’10 and ride a 58cm Toyo Atlantis. I’ve had the bike 
for over a year now and I do agree with Riv’s fit suggestion. It is 
probably the biggest frame I can handle without running into issues. I set 
mine up with Tosco bars and a 110mm stem and it fits like a glove so flat 
bars and a slightly shorter stem should serve you well in this scenario. I 
hope that helps!

-Justin



On Friday, February 17, 2023 at 1:53:00 PM UTC-8 Kurt Henry wrote:
A recent thread about the red 58cm Toyo Atlantis for sale in the Bay Area (
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/vallejo-rivendell-atlantis-58/7578102714.html)
 
has brought back an old desire to have an early Atlantis.  It's a model 
I've looked at for years but never pulled the trigger.  So that brings me 
to my two questions.

First, I should fit according to the brochure.  I'm 5'10" and run a 75cm 
saddle height, which is the very bottom edge of a 58cm from that era.  The 
58.5 top tube would normally give me pause (~34/35" sleeve length) but I 
want to run it with flat bars, as the red one is currently set up.  That 
should help with the top tube length.  Has anyone of my rough dimensions 
ridden a 58cm Toyo and can comment on their experience?

Unless someone comes out of the last question screaming, "Danger, Will 
Robinson" we move to my second question: is there a Rivver in the Bay Area 
that would be willing to check it out for me, hand over the payment, and 
drop it at a local shop that I could work with to pack and ship it?  I'm in 
Pennsylvania and they state 'no shipping' in the ad.  I'm happy to 
reimburse you for the trouble.

Thanks everyone!
Kurt Henry
Lancaster, PA

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[RBW] FS: TA Specialites Zephyr Crankset, 9sp Ultegra Drivetrain, Silver DT Shifters

[Michael Ullmer]

I'm swapping out the drivetrain on the Ram I picked up a few months back 
and have these extra for sale.

1) TA Specialites Zephyr Triple Crankset 172.5 - $250
--The 48 and 36 rings are 110 bcd and the 28 ring is 74 bcd. This also have 
a smaller spider with a 56 bcd. Still quite shiny, I didn't get to taking 
these apart and cleaning them thoroughly.

2) Ultegra 6500 9sp Drivetrain - $60
--Ultegra 6500 Triple Front and Rear Derailleur. 12-27t 9 sp cassette and 
chain. Chain and cassette are dirty/used, but the chain didn't show stretch 
when I measured it.

3) Silver DT Shifters - $40
--A few marks but still quite shiny. These have the plastic washer so are 
probably an early version.

Or buy the whole lot for $300

Prices are net to me. I'll use Pirateship to generate a shipping estimate.

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/FZXL8U7yJsWfi6NMA

Mike in Minneaepolis

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