[RBW] Re: FS/T: Nitto Tallux Stem

[John Rinker]

Stem is sold. Cheers, John

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 3:05:02 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> I've got a Nitto Tallux stem 12cm, 225mm, 25.4 on offer. Usual steer tube 
> marks and  a mark from cable rub near the handlebar mount. I'm looking to 
> trade for the same in 7 or 8 cm, or $50 plus shipping ConUS. 
>
> Photos 
> 
>
> Cheers, John
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[DavidP]

Steve - Thanks, yes VO Fluted 63mm fenders and 700x50 Gravel Kings. There's 
a detailed post about the fender setup in this 
thread: 
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/TZyZuR9pWhc/m/i0wRKPqXBQAJ

I've really enjoyed this setup - it's a fantastic all-rounder and does 
great on easy trails while being zippy on pavement. For something more 
trail oriented or if you wanted fenders and larger (or knobbier) tires then 
a Suzy (or the lugged replacement) or a Clem would be a better fit.

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:01:25 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> David - Sweet looking Platy, I dig your build -  It wears those fenders 
> well.
>
>  I've been daydreaming about my next bike and am gravitating toward a 
> Platy, or possibly a Suzy/Wolbis.  If you don't mind a few questions;  
> - I'm guessing VO Fluted 63mm fenders?  
> - How wide are those Gravel Kings,  and are they 650b or 700c? 
> Inquiring minds want to know.
> Thanks!!!
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 9:16:20 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Golden hour trails on the Platypus.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20230529_232610460_fern-trail-1350.jpg]
>>
>> [image: PXL_20230529_233100432_trailside-sun-1080.jpg]
>>
>> -Dave (near Boston, where it's starting to look a lot like summer)
>>
>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ted. The VO drillium looks perfect with the Heron frame.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> - Rich
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:38 PM Ted Durant  wrote:
>>>
 On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:35:27 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:

 Ted, what is the gearing on the front of your Heron?


 48/34 Velo-Orange Drillium
 Great road bike setup. The drop from the 48 to the 34 is on the verge 
 of being too big, but it's nice to have the 34t small ring.

 Ted Durant
 Milwaukee, WI USA

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[RBW] Re: FS Brooks C13 158mm carbon saddles

[Ed Felker]

Update: the new saddle is sold. The other two remain available. 


On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 4:19:25 PM UTC-4 Ed Felker wrote:

For all the usual reasons, I have three of these for sale. They are the 
wide versions, at 158mm. Weight is ~305 grams. They have oval carbon rails, 
which may not work with some seatpost clamps.

Price includes shipping to USA addresses. Photos here: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nZWJU_bW2TbFyHwXaubG0SpjhwT_8ZJq?usp=sharing

1 -- New, unused, on Brooks backing card. $125.
1 -- Brief use, mounted, slight rail marks. No. 1 in photoset. $95.
1 -- Mounted, removed, no rail marks. No. 2 in photoset. $105.

Thanks -- 
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Washington, DC 

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Re: [RBW] Riv-inspired off-road bike

[Mackenzy Albright]

That bike is absolutely hideous, but to each their own! There's another 
frame builder that did a similar build without susp correction and toscos. 
I am certain many of Rivendell's design features will trickle into 
mainstream MTB as some innovative tech (specialized / salsa) and 
performance bike culture in general in the coming years. The way the XO-1 
pioneered modern gravel bikes and 650b revivals...

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 5:41:10 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting article for sure. Kind of lost me at “suspension corrected” 
> but still interesting. On the subject of Susie vs. Gus; when both frames 
> were available Grant said in his description that there was “no ride 
> difference” between the two. I don’t know, having only ridden the Gus. I 
> think the Gus is a very capable MTB. Perhaps not the best choice for really 
> aggressive riding but pretty darn perfect for the trails I ride & the way I 
> ride them. Also, the v brakes are definitely up to the task.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2023, at 4:03 PM, Joe D.  wrote:
>
> Here's a neat article about a rider and frame builder inspired by Riv's 
> Susie Longbolts: 
>
>
> https://bikepacking.com/bikes/maestro-rat-snake-prototype/
>
> It makes me wonder what their impression would be of a stiffer Rivendell 
> Hillibike, like the Atlantis or especially Gus Boots Wilson.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

[Steve]

David - Sweet looking Platy, I dig your build -  It wears those fenders 
well.

 I've been daydreaming about my next bike and am gravitating toward a 
Platy, or possibly a Suzy/Wolbis.  If you don't mind a few questions;  
- I'm guessing VO Fluted 63mm fenders?  
- How wide are those Gravel Kings,  and are they 650b or 700c? 
Inquiring minds want to know.
Thanks!!!
On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 9:16:20 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Golden hour trails on the Platypus.
>
> [image: PXL_20230529_232610460_fern-trail-1350.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20230529_233100432_trailside-sun-1080.jpg]
>
> -Dave (near Boston, where it's starting to look a lot like summer)
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ted. The VO drillium looks perfect with the Heron frame.
>>
>> Regards,
>> - Rich
>>
>> On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 3:38 PM Ted Durant  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 2:35:27 PM UTC-5 RichS wrote:
>>>
>>> Ted, what is the gearing on the front of your Heron?
>>>
>>>
>>> 48/34 Velo-Orange Drillium
>>> Great road bike setup. The drop from the 48 to the 34 is on the verge of 
>>> being too big, but it's nice to have the 34t small ring.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddlesack, Ortlieb, Tubus Rack and Schwalbe Marathons

[R Olson]

The Tubus rack and Schwalbe tires have sold.  The Ortlieb panniers are 
still available.

On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:09:27 AM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:

> Saddlesack is sold.  The other items are still available.
>
> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 12:30:19 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>
>> Sorry, forgot the price for the Schwalbes - $30.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-6 R Olson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Selling a few items.  All prices are net to me.  Buyer pays shipping.  I 
>>> have venmo and paypal.
>>>
>>> Saddlesack Large with kangaroo pouch, olive, great shape no tears or 
>>> rips.  This is the older version they sold prior to the bagboy's, etc.  It 
>>> is huge and can carry a lot!  $180
>>>
>>> Ortlieb Classic backroll panniers, grey.  Great shape, hardly used, all 
>>> hardware. $120 for pair.
>>>
>>> Tubus Lowrider front rack. Comes with fork maounting hardware if 
>>> needed.  I bought this off a lister, but never used it.  $60
>>>
>>> Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, 700 x 50mm.  Only rode these once, so plenty 
>>> of tread life left.
>>>
>>> PM off list if you're interested.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to a goolge album I put together with all the items.  If 
>>> it doesn't work, let me know and I can try to fix it or send you photos of 
>>> the items your interested in.
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/912eMYdR35qJYjug7
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ESI Chunky Grips with bar end shifter wire question

[Slin]

Nice, yeah I also like the idea of putting the bar end shifter cable 
housing under the ESI grips. I set up mine outside the grips and it was 
just annoying to feel there. It was so annoying that I didn't even think it 
would help if I used twine to tie it down.


On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:51:14 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Exactly!  And, beautiful 1st gen Clementine. 
>
> I’ll go ahead and have them order the grips for me. 
>
> Thanks, everyone. 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 28, 2023, at 9:34 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
> I just put the cable in place and sprayed the bar and ESI grip with 
> rubbing alcohol. Works great. Shifts great. No grip slip.  
>
> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 5:30:53 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Thank you both. 
>>
>> The wire inside its housing would go between the grip and the bar. I’m 
>> leaning toward doing this with the tan grip (closely matches the head tube 
>> color) unless I hear “don’t do it.” I getcha about having a channel. 
>>
>> The mechanic from Keystone Bikes would do this, not me. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 8:21:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> You said " putting wire through the grips?"   Are you saying the 
>>> mechanic will push the shifter wire through the length of the silicone or 
>>> put the shifter wire between the bar and the grip???
>>>
>>> If the former, it should work since the wire should be able to move fore 
>>> and aft in the silicone.
>>> If the latter, I would be worried the shifter wire will not move fore 
>>> and aft easily.
>>>
>>> On drop bars with bar end shifters, the normal practice is to place the 
>>> shifter wire inside the plastic tunnel supplied with the shifter and the 
>>> tape the plastic tunnel to the bar.  So the shifter wire is totally free to 
>>> move fore/aft, but held securely to the bar.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if the mfg molded a small diameter (say 3 mm) tunnel on 
>>> the inside of the grip for shifter wire (shifter wire is < 2mm in 
>>> diameter).   Maybe using a small diameter plastic straw between the bar and 
>>> grip with the wire inside the straw would allow the wire to move fore/aft 
>>> freely.  The straw need to be 13cm (5-1/8" long), since the grip is 13cm 
>>> long
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 6:14:12 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Currently I have an albatross handlebar on my A. Homer Hilsen with bar 
 end shifters and a leather-like handlebar wrap over a gel pad for my 
 handlebar grip. I need to change my stem so I’m considering the ESI Chunky 
 grips instead. I like the feel and sophisticated look of the current wrap 
 but wouldn’t mind more cushioning. 

 The bike mechanic tells me he can put the bar end shifter wires through 
 the ESI grips. *Is this OK/safe/good idea?*

 Another option would be to put the wire underneath the ESI grip and 
 wrap the grips with Newbaum’s tape to hold the wire in place. 

 A third option would be to put back what I have now with the wrap going 
 over the wire. 

 I have honey colored Brooks B68 and would get the blue or tan ESI 
 grips, or honey for leather like wrap.  Opinions, especially about putting 
 wire through the grips?  

 Thanks,
 Roberta 

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Re: [RBW] Riv-inspired off-road bike

[Richard Rose]

Interesting article for sure. Kind of lost me at “suspension corrected” but still interesting. On the subject of Susie vs. Gus; when both frames were available Grant said in his description that there was “no ride difference” between the two. I don’t know, having only ridden the Gus. I think the Gus is a very capable MTB. Perhaps not the best choice for really aggressive riding but pretty darn perfect for the trails I ride & the way I ride them. Also, the v brakes are definitely up to the task.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 29, 2023, at 4:03 PM, Joe D.  wrote:Here's a neat article about a rider and frame builder inspired by Riv's Susie Longbolts: https://bikepacking.com/bikes/maestro-rat-snake-prototype/It makes me wonder what their impression would be of a stiffer Rivendell Hillibike, like the Atlantis or especially Gus Boots Wilson.



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[RBW] Re: FS: Garmin Edge 830 MTB Bundle

[John Dewey]

Sorry, cross-posted to BOB where I included price in heading: $210 shipped.

On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 10:01:57 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:

> This is basically brand new...I've tried to use it a couple of times but 
> my brain and Garmin just do not work well together.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Silicone-Protectors-Touchscreen-Computer/dp/B07TJ7R7J7/ref=asc_df_B07TJ7R7J7?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20=df0=80882941548103=s=e=be=c===pla-4584482468471886=1
>
> It is complete including mounts, heart rate monitor strap, etc. Paypal 
> preferred.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
> San Anselmo, CA
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Re: [RBW] FS: Garmin Edge 830 MTB Bundle

[Eliot Balogh]

A price would probably be helpful

On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 10:02 AM John Dewey  wrote:

> This is basically brand new...I've tried to use it a couple of times but
> my brain and Garmin just do not work well together.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Silicone-Protectors-Touchscreen-Computer/dp/B07TJ7R7J7/ref=asc_df_B07TJ7R7J7?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20=df0=80882941548103=s=e=be=c===pla-4584482468471886=1
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> It is complete including mounts, heart rate monitor strap, etc. Paypal
> preferred.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey
> San Anselmo, CA
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[RBW] FS: new Clem 650b wheel set

[gordo]

Hi All,

Selling a brand new 650b wheel set that came with a recent Clem L purchase. 
 

- Alex DM24 rims
- Novatech hubs (11 speed compatible; spacer included for 8-10 speeds)
- Kendra Kwick Journey 45 mm tires 
- tubes and skewers included/installed
- 100 mm front hub spacing / 135 mm rear hub spacing

$200 for local SF sale or $240 shipped to anywhere in the continental U.S.

Thanks,

Eric



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[RBW] FS Brooks C13 158mm carbon saddles

[Ed Felker]

For all the usual reasons, I have three of these for sale. They are the
wide versions, at 158mm. Weight is ~305 grams. They have oval carbon rails,
which may not work with some seatpost clamps.

Price includes shipping to USA addresses. Photos here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nZWJU_bW2TbFyHwXaubG0SpjhwT_8ZJq?usp=sharing

1 -- New, unused, on Brooks backing card. $125.
1 -- Brief use, mounted, slight rail marks. No. 1 in photoset. $95.
1 -- Mounted, removed, no rail marks. No. 2 in photoset. $105.

Thanks --
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Washington, DC

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[RBW] Riv-inspired off-road bike

[Joe D.]

Here's a neat article about a rider and frame builder inspired by Riv's 
Susie Longbolts: 

https://bikepacking.com/bikes/maestro-rat-snake-prototype/

It makes me wonder what their impression would be of a stiffer Rivendell 
Hillibike, like the Atlantis or especially Gus Boots Wilson.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Getting in over my head

[Patrick Moore]

Now this is an interesting collection of "over my heads."

Speaking of being ridden away from by people 20 years older than you, a
friend who just did his 3rd Santa Fe Century (he is 63 or 64 and *very* fit)
told me that women in the 70s do the entire 107 mile route in less time
than he, and nope, not on electric-assist bikes.

That reminds me of 2020, riding the then-new Matthews 2:1 with AM hub wheel
shod with, at that point, I think, the ultra-fast 28 mm Elk Pass tires:
76", 66", 57". I came up behind a 2-man paceline: little butterball of an
oldster in full lycra racing kit on an apparently top-end carbon fiber bike
with extremely loud freewheel (the usual fewspoke design and IIRC radial at
least on the NDS; does anyone know what brand this might have been?) being
paced by a 20-something youngster on some sort of utterly indefinable
generic aluminum road bike. I was in good shape, for me, having done some
group rides of 30 to 40 miles in the previous months, but I could not
overtake and could barely keep up with this team. I talked to the old guy
who said he was 74; I was 64 at the time.

Patrick Moore, now 68 and even slower than in 2020. [OTOH, earlier this
year was overhauled by another, much less-buttery 73 year old whom I'd
known 15 years earlier; he had been a notable in the ABQ racing scene and
even retired was in fully lycra kit with Orbea or somesuch. His first
remark -- I was again riding the Matt 2:1, now with Naches Passes, 75/65/56
-- was, "you've got a good spin," which was surprising since IIRC I was
torquing up an incline in the 75" gear.]

On Sun, May 28, 2023 at 9:32 PM Corwin Zechar  wrote:

> Late to the party here - but I think getting in over your head is one of
> the most exciting things about life.
>
> I find myself getting in over my head at nearly every opportunity.
>
> I've been on club rides where guys twenty years older than me rode away
> from me going uphill, and downhill!
>
> I've ridden a tandem up places like Mt Tam with a half-blind stoker and
> gotten caught in the dark.
>
> I've studied and taught martial arts where a critical part of moving up in
> rank is defending yourself in a "freestyle", where progressively more -
> first time, one; next time, two, etc. until you get to five attackers - run
> at you trying to beat the stuffing out of you. The freestyle was always my
> favorite part of training.
>
> I've been diving at depths of more than 100 feet in places like Lake
> Tahoe, the Pacific and Caribbean Ocean.
>
> I've singlehanded a 50' sailboat in the Caribbean with only my disabled
> wife aboard.
>
> I've been rafting on rivers where others lose their lives.
>
> In order to maintain health insurance, I recently took a job that
> regularly requires me to climb a belt loader (a conveyor belt mounted on
> wheels) up an incline of about 45 degrees to a height of 20 feet and climb
> into an aircraft and unload and/or load bags. The most difficult part is
> closing things up. The veterans like to lower the belt loader to make it
> easier to close the aircraft door. When you're standing on an incline, 20
> feet off the ground focused on securing the door, the first time someone
> lowers the belt loader, it is truly terrifying.
>
> One of the earliest instances of getting in over my head was during my
> first teaching job, at a high school in the San Fernando Valley. I had made
> it through an undergraduate degree in mathematics without actually
> understanding logarithms. In calculus (and other subjects), various topics
> require manipulating logarithmic expressions. I learned the mechanics of
> these manipulations - but without ever understanding the essence of
> logarithms.
>
> Imagine my heightened excitement on the day we encountered logarithms
> teaching my Algebra II class. As was my custom, I never prepared lesson
> plans (still don't). I merely explained all the tenets of the topic of
> interest, expounded at length on the subtleties, applications, etc. and
> then did several problems.
>
> On that fateful day, I opened the book and discovered we were to discuss
> logarithms. My eyes widened and my pulse raced as I scanned the discussion
> in the book. Miraculously, the essence of the relationships between base,
> exponent and logarithm flashed before my eyes instantaneously providing me
> with a complete understanding of the topic. I proceeded with my usual
> demonstration and discussion of the topic, did several problems, answered
> questions and assigned homework.
>
> It's been more than forty years since that day. I've taught many classes
> in math, physics, computer science, and martial arts. I have never had such
> a revelation since.
>
> I try to get in over my head at every opportunity. I think it offers the
> best chance of learning something.
>

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[RBW] FS: Garmin Edge 830 MTB Bundle

[John Dewey]

This is basically brand new...I've tried to use it a couple of times but my 
brain and Garmin just do not work well together.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride in Asheville NC?

[Carl]

Hi,
Thank you Gary for the update on the July 7-9 meet-up in Asheville! 

As Gary said, we're planning a swap meet. We'll choose the location for 
that based on how many want to participate and how much stuff you want to 
bring. Could you let me know if you plan to do the swap meet and a ballpark 
idea of how much stuff you might bring?

Thanks and looking forward to seeing everyone in July, -- Carl
On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 11:54:39 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi from Asheville!
>
> I just wanted to send a quick update about our Riv gathering July 7-9. 
>  You can see our planned activities below.
>
> Right now we’ve got 20 folks that have indicated that they are planning to 
> attend, and 6 that are maybe’s. Here’s the “yes” list I’ve got:
>
> *Yes (traveling to Asheville):*
>
> Brian plus 2 - Lexington, KY
> Jason - Indiana
> Laing - FL
> Pam - Charlotte, NC
> Frank - Richmond, VA
> Ken - VA
> Drew plus 1 - Atlanta, GA
> Eric - Indianapolis, IN
>
>
> *From Asheville:*
>
> Joel and Heather
> Theresa and Gary
> Ellen
> Carl
> Nic
> Steve
> Robert
>
> Please let me know if I’ve missed anyone - and also let me know if you’d 
> like to attend but haven’t yet responded.
>
> Some folks have arranged campground reservations (right at Bent Creek 
> where our Saturday morning ride will be) here:  
> https://adventurepisgah.com/lake-powhatan.  There are also tons of hotel 
> and VRBO options in Asheville but the summer gets very busy so book early.
>
> And a big thanks to the “Planning Committee” members - Carl, Nic, Joel, 
> Robert, Steve, and Ellen!  They are working on route details (map and GPS), 
> food and drink venues, a pavilion for the swap meet, and possibly (fingers 
> crossed) some ride swag (hat and/or a bandana).
>
> It should be a really fun weekend and we are looking forward to meeting 
> everyone, riding, and geeking out on all things Riv!
>
> Gary
>
> *Schedule for July 7-9:*
>
> *July 7* - Afternoon ride on Greenway (mostly paved with maybe a short 
> gravel section - very easy) followed by dinner/beer at one of the local 
> places (All Souls, New Belgium, White Duck Taco, Smokey Park, etc) all near 
> the Greenway with outdoor seating. 
>
> *July 8* - Morning ride at Bent Creek Forest near the NC Arboretum with 
> two options (all nontechnical gravel fire roads - an easier, shorter one 
> and a longer one that ideally could be done in a figure 8 so everyone stays 
> together for the first, easier part. Parking either at the Arboretum or by 
> the river (for those that don’t want to pay for Arboretum parking)
>
>Afternoon short ride in conjunction with a swap meet, possibly 
> at Carrier Park near the Greenway (paved) under one of their pavilions (or 
> another similar location near the greenway). Other ideas are welcomed!
>
>
>Dinner somewhere local (same possible options as for Friday)
>
> *July 9* - Morning ride near downtown (all paved very quiet neighborhood 
> roads) around Montford, Sunset, etc. with optional lunch afterwards
>
> *Please let me know *if you’d like to continue to get info about this, 
> and if you’re planning to attend. That will help us with planning and food 
> options...
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 4:29:47 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brokebike - You done good - it's a beautiful campground. My wife and I 
>> have been saying for years that if we didn't live only 10 miles from 
>> Powhatan it would be our favorite camping destination.
>>
>> On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 8:18:02 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I got a campsite reserved at Lake Powhatan for the Ky contingent. Looks 
>>> like a sweet spot! Thanks for all the information and organization! Looking 
>>> forward to this!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Laing,
>>>
>>> Bent Creek fire roads are gravel, but not too rough. Greenway is almost 
>>> all paved except for a short gravel portion that we may or may not do. 
>>> Neighborhood ride is all paved. Your custom with 650b x 48 would be perfect 
>>> (and I'd like to see it!).
>>> gary
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 5:55:58 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 Hostel booked. Need to decide on which Riv (or Rivs). Is it all paved 
 and/or gravel? If so, I am thinking the Riv Custom with 650Bx48 Switchback 
 Hills would be the choice, so I need to quit dithering on the 90 vs. 100 
 stem and finally tape the handlebars.

 Laing

 On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 12:39:22 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> We had a fun meeting yesterday with our local Riv riders and sketched 
> out a few more details about the upcoming Rivendell (unofficial) Meet up 
> this July. Here's what we've got so far:
>
> *Schedule for July 7-9:*
>
> *July 7* - Afternoon ride on Greenway followed by dinner/beer at one 
> of the local places (All Souls, New Belgium, White Duck Taco, 

Re: [RBW] Riv Ride: Yankee Springs, Hastings, MI RECAP

[Garth]

Nice Leah :-)  Thanks for sharing the story and accompanying video !!! 

Yeah, there's gravel covered hard pack dirt/rocky roads then there's 
the kind of which you speak as a kid that are soft and deep, ploop your 
tires go. Standing in it is even more comical. That's what I remember our 
gravel roads in Minnesota being too... ploopers. 

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