Re: [RBW] Options for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to thumbies?

[Bill Lindsay]

If you are eager to acquire the X and O thumbie mounts that Rivendell sells 
and want to pay less than 45 dollars each for them, maybe just say how much 
you want to spend, and maybe somebody who has a set will sell them to you. 
 Or maybe you have something that retails for $90 that you no longer want 
and you could trade?  There are ways to shake things loose in this 
community.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:53:51 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Yeah, the Riv ones I knew about. 90 bucks just to mount shifters is really 
> expensive, though. I was hoping there was another option LOL. Maybe some 
> will come up used. 
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> As near as I know the only game in town are the mounts sold by Riv for 
>> that exact purpose, which you must be familiar with but I’ll link here 
>> anyhow: https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk. Paul used to 
>> sell adapters for their Thumbie mounts, but they are neither 1. cheap nor 
>> 2. currently in production, so would require some scrounging. 
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
>> wrote:
>>
>> So what options exist for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to 
>> thumbies? That don't cost a fortune - $60-$70 per shifter seems just crazy 
>> honestly. Is there anything more reasonable? 
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[RBW] FS: Royal Blue Rack Trunk

[Rich Lesnik]

I have a sightly-used royal blue rack-trunk that I don't use. Stiffeners 
included. This is the model that opens from the front. $50+shipping from 
Rivendell.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Jacob Tobey]

I can confirm that a 59 Clem L fits just fine on a 1up, as I transport mine 
that way regularly.

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:27:01 PM UTC-8 Andrew S wrote:

> Kiley, I’ve got a 64 Clem L rolling chassis (embarrassingly not yet built 
> up) and a 1UP rack which I’ve (embarrassingly) not yet tried it on. If you 
> haven’t gotten a definitive answer before then, I’ll throw it on and take 
> some photos when we’re back from our vacation on Thursday.
>
> andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Kiley, I think the best answer for those who have long wheelbase issues, 
> is to get a rear rack with the dual rack arms that adjust to secure both 
> wheels of the bike (like the design of 1Up racks, or the Kuat Piston 
> series). The wheelbase limitations of the Kuat Piston series is 53 inches, 
> and I think most 1Up racks will handle a max. of 54 inches. Personally, I 
> have a Kuat NV2, but it only has an adjustable rack arm for the front 
> wheel, and a strap for the rear wheel. The max wheelbase on that style of 
> rack is 50 inches. My 54 (Medium) Gus has an exactly 50" wheelbase, so it 
> JUST fits. Anything longer would not.
>
> I guess ease of personal transport and urban multi-modal transportation 
> was not a factor in the evolution of these bikes. They ride great, but it's 
> a very real and often frustrating issue that us owners have to work through.
>
> Brian
> Lex KY
>
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:39:40 PM UTC-5 Kiley Demond wrote:
>
> Super-size the question: My Clem L is a 59; looking/considering a Clem L 
> 64 for my HE (husband equivalent). How in the world do we transport these 
> behemoths? The idea is for some off-road, away-from-home adventures, but 
> the whole rack thing needs to be managed. We could remove wheels for 
> transport, but then need a rack that will take the 'L' Clems and grab the 
> frames. 
>
> Thank you for your collective wisdom!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

[Jason Fuller]

For what it's worth, one of my riding pals runs the 700x38 Rene Herse 
knobbies and they're delightful as well, so if you choose to size down to 
address the issue I don't think you'll be missing out a whole lot.  Plus, 
that keeps the BB height, etc closer to the design values. 

On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 16:44:06 UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:

> Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. 
>> So well done! 落
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
>> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>>
>>> Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If 
>>> you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!
>>>
>>> If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap 
>>> your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the 
>>> fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the 
>>> typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a 
>>> quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded 
>>> fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. 
>>> Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
>>> -Wes
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
>>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>>
 This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on 
 my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by 
 the 
 recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff 
 in 
 a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
 snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
 southern interior.

 The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if 
 not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this 
 experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to 
 work. 

 It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their 
 Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam 
 Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and 
 crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the 
 rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the 
 irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. 

 Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are 
 any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. 
 If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful 
 frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 

 Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
 front fork. 

 [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4366.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Jason Fuller]

I'm 5'8" with an ~81 pbh and I've decided that if I were to get a Platy 
(and I do entertain the idea, although I can't do it in the foreseeable 
future) I'd get a 50 because I love the way 650B wheels ride.  At my (our) 
height, I think either size can totally work fine. Changing the handlebar 
from a Billie to an Albatross would effectively cancel out the differing 
top tube length, or maybe you'd want to try a bar with moderate sweep on it 
- which would give it quite a different feel from the other Platy(s) as 
well!  Or, since I know you love the Billie bar, trimming the ends by the 
same difference as the top tube length might be the best plan! 

I totally think you should do it. If an additional bike isn't justifiable, 
it would still make sense to replace the shopping Platy with a 50 in my 
opinion, as then you've got three distinct feeling bikes with distinct 
purposes, and the shopping Platy already has the carrying capacity to 
become the traveling Platy on weekends! 



On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 12:59:08 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bill - I measure my 55 Platy about 75”, end to end.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Garth, are you saying you’re sending me a Betty?! Because I would NOT be 
> sad! 藍
>
> On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
> 
> Maybe the Betty like the one you sold(or similar) is on it's way to your 
> front door :)
>
> A smaller Platy also comes with less frame reach and bar height potential. 
> Since you're already at the max stem height and length , going to a smaller 
> frame doesn't work for you. Neither does a high rise bar like the Bosco 
> since it comes back further than bar you currently have. 
>
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Two additional data points…
>>
>> Wife has 80PBH
>> 50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)
>> LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)
>>
>> I have 87 PBH
>> 58cm Yves/Betty 
>> LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)
>>
>> Allan, in Marlboro, VT
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>>
>>> *Bill requests: *
>>> *3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the 
>>> total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the 
>>> trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you*
>>>
>>> Total end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 
>>> 67.5" and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is 
>>> due to different fenders.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Leah

 My recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would 
 include the following:

 1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total 
 end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
 edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you

 2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total 
 end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
 edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you

 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the 
 total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the 
 trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you

 I think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv 
 step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now 
 she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you 
 were 
 eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced. 
  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or 
 minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But 
> maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>
> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH 
> range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t 
> have 
> them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for 
> buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with 
> my 
> bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she 
> can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets 
> some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride 
> that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>
> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. 
> Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought 

[RBW] Re: FS Ortlieb City Back roller panniers

[Julian Westerhout]

Panniers are sold.  Thanks. 

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 9:56:57 AM UTC-6 Julian Westerhout wrote:

> For sale is one set of red/black Ortlieb City Back roller Panniers in very 
> good, almost new condition. 
>
> $70 net to me plus shipping
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
>
>  
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Re: [RBW] Options for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to thumbies?

[Minh]

i believe Velo Orange, and IRD have their own versions as well which are a 
little bit less.

depending on how comfortable you are with sourcing parts of questionable 
origin, but there are some options on aliexpress that look to at least be 
compatible, but you run the risk of ending up with problems like poor 
tolerances or bad threading.  

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:08:03 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Yeah, not worth it just for the mounts. *For a few dollars more*(great 
> movie !), you can buy the IRD Power Ratchet thumb shifter from ebay for 
> $112.85.  I've purchased lots stuff from hat seller over the years. 
>
> The Dia Compe ones are $125 from various sellers on ebay too. 
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/195621292985?
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 2:53:51 PM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the Riv ones I knew about. 90 bucks just to mount shifters is 
>> really expensive, though. I was hoping there was another option LOL. Maybe 
>> some will come up used. 
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> As near as I know the only game in town are the mounts sold by Riv for 
>>> that exact purpose, which you must be familiar with but I’ll link here 
>>> anyhow: https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk. Paul used to 
>>> sell adapters for their Thumbie mounts, but they are neither 1. cheap nor 
>>> 2. currently in production, so would require some scrounging. 
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So what options exist for converting Silver-1 barend shifters to 
>>> thumbies? That don't cost a fortune - $60-$70 per shifter seems just crazy 
>>> honestly. Is there anything more reasonable? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Andrew Schell]

Kiley, I’ve got a 64 Clem L rolling chassis (embarrassingly not yet built up) and a 1UP rack which I’ve (embarrassingly) not yet tried it on. If you haven’t gotten a definitive answer before then, I’ll throw it on and take some photos when we’re back from our vacation on Thursday.andrewSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Brian Turner  wrote:Kiley, I think the best answer for those who have long wheelbase issues, is to get a rear rack with the dual rack arms that adjust to secure both wheels of the bike (like the design of 1Up racks, or the Kuat Piston series). The wheelbase limitations of the Kuat Piston series is 53 inches, and I think most 1Up racks will handle a max. of 54 inches. Personally, I have a Kuat NV2, but it only has an adjustable rack arm for the front wheel, and a strap for the rear wheel. The max wheelbase on that style of rack is 50 inches. My 54 (Medium) Gus has an exactly 50" wheelbase, so it JUST fits. Anything longer would not.I guess ease of personal transport and urban multi-modal transportation was not a factor in the evolution of these bikes. They ride great, but it's a very real and often frustrating issue that us owners have to work through.BrianLex KYOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:39:40 PM UTC-5 Kiley Demond wrote:Super-size the question: My Clem L is a 59; looking/considering a Clem L 64 for my HE (husband equivalent). How in the world do we transport these behemoths? The idea is for some off-road, away-from-home adventures, but the whole rack thing needs to be managed. We could remove wheels for transport, but then need a rack that will take the 'L' Clems and grab the frames. Thank you for your collective wisdom!



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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Leah Peterson]

Bill - I measure my 55 Platy about 75”, end to end.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 12, 2023, at 2:31 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:Garth, are you saying you’re sending me a Betty?! Because I would NOT be sad! 藍On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Garth  wrote:Maybe the Betty like the one you sold(or similar) is on it's way to your front door :)A smaller Platy also comes with less frame reach and bar height potential. Since you're already at the max stem height and length , going to a smaller frame doesn't work for you. Neither does a high rise bar like the Bosco since it comes back further than bar you currently have. On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com wrote:Two additional data points…Wife has 80PBH50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)I have 87 PBH58cm Yves/Betty LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)Allan, in Marlboro, VTOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:Bill requests: 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youTotal end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to different fenders.On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would include the following:1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youI think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced.  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Toyo Atlantis w/ Clockwork fork. Disc tabs added

[Jacob Tobey]

Just sent you an email

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:01:47 PM UTC-8 bingomck wrote:

> Hi all, 
>
> I bought this from Chris and then had another (3rd) kid. Life has been 
> great, but my bike time has suffered. I never even unpacked the 
> frame/fork/wheels after buying this in 2020--just been sitting in my 
> garage. I've owned two other Atlantii, but obviously never a disc version, 
> which is pretty unique. This is my fifth lifetime Rivendell. Just keep 
> drawing me back... 
>
> I've thought about selling the frame/fork/wheels (what I bought from 
> Chris) over past few years, but every time I went to do it, I would look at 
> the pictures of this thing built up and put it off, thinking I would 
> eventually build it up. Hasn't happened... I bought the full package 
> shipped for $1,600 (I can find the payment invoice for anyone interested). 
>
> It's time to move this on to someone that will build it up and ride it! 
>
> The original albums with evidence of beausage are here: 
> https://imgur.com/a/b7SyOZF
> https://imgur.com/gallery/cu0A98D
>
> Would prefer to sell to someone local in the SF Bay Area, but it's boxed, 
> so will of course consider shipping. I'm in Mill Valley and work in DTSF 
> right next to Embarcadero BART. 
>
> I think $1,450 local (and + actual shipping if not) makes sense. Would 
> prefer to avoid Craigslist, but if there's no interest here, will post it 
> more broadly elsewhere. 
>
> Post here or shoot me an email directly and we can connect by phone. 
> Thanks!
> Bingo
> On Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 2:09:08 AM UTC-7 chris...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The bike has been sold, sorry forgot to update this.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Leah Peterson]

Garth, are you saying you’re sending me a Betty?! Because I would NOT be sad! 藍On Nov 12, 2023, at 2:28 PM, Garth  wrote:Maybe the Betty like the one you sold(or similar) is on it's way to your front door :)A smaller Platy also comes with less frame reach and bar height potential. Since you're already at the max stem height and length , going to a smaller frame doesn't work for you. Neither does a high rise bar like the Bosco since it comes back further than bar you currently have. On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com wrote:Two additional data points…Wife has 80PBH50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)I have 87 PBH58cm Yves/Betty LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)Allan, in Marlboro, VTOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:Bill requests: 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youTotal end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to different fenders.On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would include the following:1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank youI think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced.  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Garth]

Maybe the Betty like the one you sold(or similar) is on it's way to your 
front door :)

A smaller Platy also comes with less frame reach and bar height potential. 
Since you're already at the max stem height and length , going to a smaller 
frame doesn't work for you. Neither does a high rise bar like the Bosco 
since it comes back further than bar you currently have. 

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5 allan@gmail.com wrote:

> Two additional data points…
>
> Wife has 80PBH
> 50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)
> LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)
>
> I have 87 PBH
> 58cm Yves/Betty 
> LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)
>
> Allan, in Marlboro, VT
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>
>> *Bill requests: *
>> *3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the 
>> total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the 
>> trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you*
>>
>> Total end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" 
>> and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to 
>> different fenders.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> My recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would 
>>> include the following:
>>>
>>> 1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total 
>>> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
>>> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>>
>>> 2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total 
>>> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
>>> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>>
>>> 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the 
>>> total end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the 
>>> trailing edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>>
>>> I think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv 
>>> step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now 
>>> she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were 
>>> eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced. 
>>>  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or 
>>> minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
 not. I’ve done crazier things. 

 Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH 
 range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t 
 have 
 them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for 
 buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my 
 bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she 
 can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets 
 some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride 
 that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.

 Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. 
 Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a 
 real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a 
 girl can have.
 Leah

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Brian Turner]

Kiley, I think the best answer for those who have long wheelbase issues, is 
to get a rear rack with the dual rack arms that adjust to secure both 
wheels of the bike (like the design of 1Up racks, or the Kuat Piston 
series). The wheelbase limitations of the Kuat Piston series is 53 inches, 
and I think most 1Up racks will handle a max. of 54 inches. Personally, I 
have a Kuat NV2, but it only has an adjustable rack arm for the front 
wheel, and a strap for the rear wheel. The max wheelbase on that style of 
rack is 50 inches. My 54 (Medium) Gus has an exactly 50" wheelbase, so it 
JUST fits. Anything longer would not.

I guess ease of personal transport and urban multi-modal transportation was 
not a factor in the evolution of these bikes. They ride great, but it's a 
very real and often frustrating issue that us owners have to work through.

Brian
Lex KY

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:39:40 PM UTC-5 Kiley Demond wrote:

Super-size the question: My Clem L is a 59; looking/considering a Clem L 64 
for my HE (husband equivalent). How in the world do we transport these 
behemoths? The idea is for some off-road, away-from-home adventures, but 
the whole rack thing needs to be managed. We could remove wheels for 
transport, but then need a rack that will take the 'L' Clems and grab the 
frames. 

Thank you for your collective wisdom!

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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Allan McLane]

Two additional data points…

Wife has 80PBH
50cm Rosco Platy (Circa 2022)
LOA 182cm (71.5”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 72.5” LOA)

I have 87 PBH
58cm Yves/Betty 
LOA 176cm (69.25”) w/ 42-584 smooth tread (+2cm for fender, 70”LOA)

Allan, in Marlboro, VT
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:03:10 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> *Bill requests: *
> *3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you*
>
> Total end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" 
> and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to 
> different fenders.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> My recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would 
>> include the following:
>>
>> 1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
>> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
>> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> 2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
>> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
>> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
>> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
>> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> I think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv 
>> step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now 
>> she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were 
>> eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced. 
>>  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or 
>> minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>>
>>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>>> can have.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: few items - Choco bar ,700x40 tires, crankset, long reach brakes

[Piaw Na]

Bike closet has continental 700x40 Terraspeed tires for $32. At that price 
I don't care how quickly they wear out

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 5:33:35 AM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:

> Building a Roadini and looking for a few used items in good shape:
>
>
>1. Choco bar (norm variety)
>2. 170mm-ish crankset - clipper, sugino or silver either a triple 
>or 42/28-ish 
>3. 700x40 tires ...could go down to 38's ...40's better 
>4. Something like good condition 559's.  Probably better to just buy 
>new...but what's out there?
>
> Thanks
> JS
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Kiley Demond]

Super-size the question: My Clem L is a 59; looking/considering a Clem L 64 
for my HE (husband equivalent). How in the world do we transport these 
behemoths? The idea is for some off-road, away-from-home adventures, but 
the whole rack thing needs to be managed. We could remove wheels for 
transport, but then need a rack that will take the 'L' Clems and grab the 
frames. 

Thank you for your collective wisdom!


On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 12:35:15 PM UTC-7 SallyG wrote:

> Hi all!
> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 
> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
> Sally
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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Bill Lindsay]

Dynamite measurement.  Leah, that empirical data suggests that a short 
wheelbase Riv step through would be roughly 4 inches shorter than a Mrs. 
Bubba's 50cm Platypus, end to end.  What is the total end to end length of 
your 55cm Platy?  To first order, I would expect the 52cm Betty to have the 
same length, and is a very promising option for your "train bike" build 
concept.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:03:10 AM UTC-8 J J wrote:

> *Bill requests: *
> *3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you*
>
> Total end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" 
> and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to 
> different fenders.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Leah
>>
>> My recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would 
>> include the following:
>>
>> 1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
>> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
>> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> 2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
>> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
>> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
>> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
>> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>>
>> I think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv 
>> step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now 
>> she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were 
>> eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced. 
>>  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or 
>> minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>>
>>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>>> can have.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[J J]

*Bill requests: *
*3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you*

Total end-to-end length of 52cm Wilbury and 52cm Glorius is between 67.5" 
and 68", both with 42mm 650b and fenders. The slight difference is due to 
different fenders.


On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Leah
>
> My recommendation for an alternative set of academic questions would 
> include the following:
>
> 1.  YOU own a 52cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>
> 2.  YOU own a 55cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy.  Please measure the total end 
> to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing edge of 
> the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>
> 3.  YOU own a medium/small Glorious or Wilbury.  Please measure the total 
> end to end length from the front edge of the front tire to the trailing 
> edge of the rear fender (or tire).  Please and thank you
>
> I think it would be HOT if you had a sporty short wheelbase Riv 
> step-through in your ARSENAL.  Mrs Bubba used to own a 52cm Gomez, but now 
> she's on a 50cm Platy and it's not actively for sale.  Although if you were 
> eager to lease it for an extended period, I bet she could be convinced. 
>  Hers is Mermaid, and its full end to end length is 72 inches, plus or 
> minus a quarter-inch, with 650B x 48 Rene Herse knobbies and no fenders.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>
>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>
>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>> can have.
>> Leah
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Leah Peterson]

Yeah, Sarah, I support this idea! Do we have the same PBH? I seem to remember do. 81cm for me…On Nov 12, 2023, at 11:26 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Go ride it, Sarah! I'm the same height as y'all and I rode the first 50cm prototype, it felt great. On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 7:01:01 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:Hey RivSister, want me to got test ride the 50 for you? I know we both like an oversize frame so this could be an interesting experiment for both of usOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 6:55:49 AM UTC-8 Howard Hatten wrote:Since you already own a few step thru-step over rivs maybe you might want to consider adding a Sam Hillborne to the stable. You never know, someday you might want to try a drop bar cockpit on your group ride machine. Your chariot would be waiting. HowardLivonia MiOn Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:16:07 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on bikes.On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe not. I’ve done crazier things. Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl can have.Leah



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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Joe Bernard]

Go ride it, Sarah! I'm the same height as y'all and I rode the first 50cm 
prototype, it felt great. 

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 7:01:01 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hey RivSister, want me to got test ride the 50 for you? I know we both 
> like an oversize frame so this could be an interesting experiment for both 
> of us
>
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 6:55:49 AM UTC-8 Howard Hatten wrote:
>
>> Since you already own a few step thru-step over rivs maybe you might want 
>> to consider adding a Sam Hillborne to the stable. You never know, someday 
>> you might want to try a drop bar cockpit on your group ride machine. Your 
>> chariot would be waiting. 
>>
>> Howard
>> Livonia Mi
>>
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:16:07 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would 
>>> not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
>>> equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
>>> with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
>>> they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
>>> you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
>>> bikes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
 not. I’ve done crazier things. 

 Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH 
 range starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t 
 have 
 them, I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for 
 buses and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my 
 bike for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she 
 can get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets 
 some air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride 
 that little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.

 Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. 
 Anyway, thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a 
 real experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a 
 girl can have.
 Leah

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Sarah Carlson]

Hey RivSister, want me to got test ride the 50 for you? I know we both like 
an oversize frame so this could be an interesting experiment for both of 
us

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 6:55:49 AM UTC-8 Howard Hatten wrote:

> Since you already own a few step thru-step over rivs maybe you might want 
> to consider adding a Sam Hillborne to the stable. You never know, someday 
> you might want to try a drop bar cockpit on your group ride machine. Your 
> chariot would be waiting. 
>
> Howard
> Livonia Mi
>
> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:16:07 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would 
>> not be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
>> equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
>> with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
>> they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
>> you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
>> bikes.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>>
>>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>>> can have.
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[Howard Hatten]

Since you already own a few step thru-step over rivs maybe you might want 
to consider adding a Sam Hillborne to the stable. You never know, someday 
you might want to try a drop bar cockpit on your group ride machine. Your 
chariot would be waiting. 

Howard
Livonia Mi

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:16:07 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:

> If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would not 
> be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
> equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
> with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
> they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
> you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
> bikes.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
>> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>>
>> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
>> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
>> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
>> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
>> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
>> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
>> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
>> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>>
>> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
>> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
>> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
>> can have.
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

[George Schick]

If I were in your situation I'd be tempted to get a folder.  PBH would not 
be an issue because they have very long seat posts.  Some models are 
equipped with more upright bars such as you're used to using.  They come 
with a variety of different types of gearing and ranges.  And, of course, 
they are step-though by definition.  That could be your travel bike and 
you'd be able to get around any issues that some trains have with carry-on 
bikes.


On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 3:27:55 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I have a question that is probably only going to be academic. But maybe 
> not. I’ve done crazier things. 
>
> Anyway, I have an 81 cm PBH. I sized up to the 55 cm Platypus (PBH range 
> starts at 82 cm) and I love the fit. I adore my bikes. You can’t have them, 
> I won’t sell them, don’t even ask. BUT, they are long. Too long for buses 
> and for Amtrak. I desperately want to take Amtrak to Chicago with my bike 
> for the first time, but my bike is too long. RivSister Kate says she can 
> get her 50 cm Platypus on Amtrak if she undoes her V brakes and lets some 
> air out of her tire. But, I’m 5’6” and I don’t know if I could ride that 
> little bike. I don’t have one locally to try.
>
> Also, I’d want the lime olive, which would be very hard to find. Anyway, 
> thanks for participating in my thought experiment. That might be a real 
> experiment. Probably not. There’s likely a limit to how many Platys a girl 
> can have.
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Platypus Frameset, 55cm, “Lime Olive”

[Sarah Carlson]

Hi, is this frame still available?

On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 6:48:50 PM UTC-7 Nathan F wrote:

> Bumping this down to $1150 shipped ($1100 for local pickup).
>
> On Monday, 16 October 2023 at 16:47:50 UTC-5 Nathan F wrote:
>
> I’ve decided to sell my 55cm Platypus from the original run in the “Lime 
> Olive” color.
>
> There are maybe 600 miles or so on the frame. I’m only selling it because 
> I don’t have anywhere to store it after a recent move. Bummer! Here's how 
> I built it if you're looking for some inspiration 
> .
>
> It’s in overall great shape, with some very minor cable run on the NDS 
> headtube, and some minor marks from a bike rack on the DS seat-stay and 
> mid-stay. No dents or anything major. As I exclusively ran it singlespeed, 
> the chain stay and hanger are in perfect shape, though the inside of the 
> dropouts are a little marked up from fiddling with the ENO hub.
>
> BB/seatpost/headset are included, as are “The Platypus Care Guide” and the 
> accompanying documentary DVD Riv gave away. I think I even have the 
> original paint covers for the canti-studs, but will need to look around for 
> them.
>
> Pictures here: https://imgur.com/a/9AD7Twu 
>
> I am asking $1250 net to me shipped from Austin, TX (or free local 
> delivery!). 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant’s Mountain

[Sarah Carlson]

Oh man this atmospheric river... I better make sure to get in a good ride 
today!


On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:06:08 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:

> Yes, I remember. The legs began to atrophy. 
>
> Jock
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 3:21 AM Peter Adler  wrote:
>
>> Atmospheric river headed Bay Area way midweek. Might trickle off to the 
>> north again; but last winter, the first one had twelve more behind it, one 
>> after another, for almost ten weeks.
>>
>> Get your riding in while you can :-(
>>
>> Peter "no, really; I'm OK with the soaked socks" Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:38:53 PM UTC-8 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>> Right on !
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 11:56:51 AM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>> Mt Diablo today. Clear skies and temps in the 60s here in Rivendell’s 
>> back yard.
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[RBW] Re: Platypus for Clem L?

[Sarah Carlson]

I had a different steel frame and all I can describe is that when I was 
riding I felt like I was dragging every pound of that bike along, where 
with the Platypus it feels like it is leaping forward. I just don't feel 
it. Even as I have added racks, bags, fenders and I keep asking when it 
will feel like a heavy bike. That has not happened yet.

On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:46:30 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Jake,
> That is interesting that the bikes are about equal in weight but one rides 
> "zippier and lighter". I've heard this before in comparing the Clem to the 
> Platypus but I just don't know what qualities makes a bike feel zippier if 
> it isn't lighter weight.
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 12:25:06 PM UTC-5 jake...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I agree with what Garth is saying about weight/size differences. 
>> Depending on the respective builds and how the sizing falls, it's possible 
>> that a Platypus could be every bit as long and heavy as a Clem. As people 
>> in the 81-84cm pbh range, I have a 55cm Platypus and my dad has a 52cm 
>> Clem, and the Clem is probably lighter in part due to the smaller wheel 
>> size. Both are great bikes, and I do find the Platypus rides zippier and 
>> lighter, but in terms of lifting, transport, and storage there is not much 
>> difference between the two. Hope this helps!
>>
>> Jake
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:06:09 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Chung, If your wife finds the Clem too long and heavy a Platypus is not 
>>> going to make a effective difference in regards to weight or maneuvering. 
>>> What would is a frame like a Soma Buena Vista (rim brake or disc) or Velo 
>>> Orange Polyvalent low kicker. Both have relatively typical chainstays and 
>>> wheelbases and are going to be easier to pick up and maneuver simply due to 
>>> the fact that they have "normal" wheelbases and chainstays so are going to 
>>> be inherently lighter to begin with. There's a notable difference in 
>>> geometry though, with the VO being more low trail and the Soma mid-high. 
>>> Plus the Soma has quite steep seat tube angles so if using a Brooks you may 
>>> not be able to get the seat back where you want. Thankfully they do both 
>>> use a 27.2 post though. 
>>>
>>> Note, the Platy isn't a step through either so all three compared to a 
>>> Clem are more like step around I suppose ! 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578fd48f3a30004789cd9,5ee8f7ce7eaeb8001717ac2f
>>> ,
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t know about the Platypus, but my wife rides a Betty Foy. It rides 
>>> ligh/zippy  and she loves it. Currently has a Wald 137 front basket and a 
>>> Riv trunk bag. 
>>> They’re a bit hard to come by but Cheviot was essentially the same bike. 
>>>
>>> Tires are 650b x 38 with fenders. Not sure I’d go larger. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:21:50 AM UTC-7 chungeu...wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I bought a complete Clem L for my wife and she enjoyed riding it so far.
>>> However, she felt that it's a bit too much bike for her since she only 
>>> rides it on the pavement for the commute. She finds it too heavy when 
>>> storing it in a rack and bring it on the the commuting train.
>>> Since she still likes the step-through design, I wonder if swapping it 
>>> with the complete Platypus would solve her problem. Or, can we solve this 
>>> with lighter components (probably the wheelset and tires?) and some cockpit 
>>> setup to make it more zippy?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chung
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: few items - Choco bar ,700x40 tires, crankset, long reach brakes

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

PM sent

On Sunday, 12 November 2023 at 07:33:35 UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:

> Building a Roadini and looking for a few used items in good shape:
>
>
>1. Choco bar (norm variety)
>2. 170mm-ish crankset - clipper, sugino or silver either a triple 
>or 42/28-ish 
>3. 700x40 tires ...could go down to 38's ...40's better 
>4. Something like good condition 559's.  Probably better to just buy 
>new...but what's out there?
>
> Thanks
> JS
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: few items - Choco bar ,700x40 tires, crankset, long reach brakes

[J Schwartz]

Building a Roadini and looking for a few used items in good shape:


   1. Choco bar (norm variety)
   2. 170mm-ish crankset - clipper, sugino or silver either a triple or 
   42/28-ish 
   3. 700x40 tires ...could go down to 38's ...40's better 
   4. Something like good condition 559's.  Probably better to just buy 
   new...but what's out there?

Thanks
JS

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