[RBW] Re: Rambouillet & Romulus. A visual comparison.

[ascpgh]

Small world, I'm around the corner from the coffee shop in Highland Park. 
The Garfield water tower only last week became obscured by foliage from my 
front porch view to the right. I start many a ride with Stanton Avenue, 
over the heights, to Lawrenceville and onward. My orange Rambouillet is 
very familiar with having to be relaxed in climbing gear around here.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 8:31:33 AM UTC-4 notlaw...@gmail.com wrote:

> In Stanton Heights, so every ride ends with a climb!
>
> Both bikes are rapid-rise, so in theory the springs and cables are at 
> their most restful setting. 
> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 7:14:37 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Not only are these two in their smallest gear but also in the appropriate 
>> cranks 90° to the seat tube, drive side high, suggestive of being ready to 
>> put it to the pedals and climb!
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 11:32:11 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:05:05 PM UTC-5 notlaw...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The 63cm Romulus received a mild rebuild over the winter, and since I 
>>> had the tripod handy I decided to photograph and visually compare the two.
>>>
>>>
>>> Both bikes in their smallest gears. Like!
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee WI USA 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Paint Color matters! Your favorite?

[George Schick]

What Jay said.  I've been forever happy with the orange Ram that I bought 
some 20 years ago.


On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 3:14:32 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Rambouillet orange. 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On May 31, 2024, at 13:03, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> My favorite Riv color was the Sage Green that they offered 20 years ago 
> when I ordered road custom #3, but I think this same color, or much like 
> it, has featured on stock models since then. The 2003 had lovely Joe Bell 
> Sage Green with cream accents.
>
> The immediately earlier (1999) road custom was painted in metallic navy 
> with cream accents; also lovely;
>
> BUT!
>
> When I had the '99 modified locally in 2018, I had the builder take it to 
> our -- then! -- local bike powdercoat specialist and have it colored Ford 
> Blue. This coater had the knack of even, smooth, "liquid" coatings that 
> beat most paintjobs, IMO, and the Ford Blue on that 1999 is now my favorite 
> color.
>
> Said coater some years ago had coated an old Rene Herse; he got close to 
> the (admittedly faded; bike was from 1958, so I was told) light blue, but 
> above all the coating had that "liquid" look that, again, looked better 
> than most paint jobs.
>
> Alas, when Chauncey built my 2020 Riv Road clone for IGH/fixed 
> drivetrains, said coater was no longer available, and the coater he did use 
> was far less expert: there's very, very slight orange peel on this coating.
>
> My photographic skills are just mm higher than "nil," so extrapolate. 1937 
> Sturmey Archer TC hub.
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:46 PM Guy LeVan  wrote:
>
>> 
>> Rivendell should revisit this wonderful paint color for some of their 
>> models.  This is the fork from a 2000 Heron Road bike that I’m building.  
>> The blue/green metallic is fantastic in the sun.   
>>
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[RBW] Re: My 53 Lugged Susie is for sale if there's any interest

[Calvin Yolo]

Told myself I would sell this before getting the bike I wanted, but got it 
anyway - and now most of the parts are transitioning over. Just the frame 
with HS/BB for sale now. $1850 shipping included, or $1750 local pick up! 
This size is sold out at Rivendell for both colors. 

On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 5:40:51 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:

> Reduced the price to $2200, but now only selling "package 1" - decided to 
> keep the wheels and dynamo set up.
>
> On Friday, May 17, 2024 at 8:43:16 PM UTC-7 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>
>> Posted this on fb last night, but want to throw it in here as well. I 
>> grabbed the Sergio Green sample we were sent before the full run arrived 
>> per Will's email. Realize I don't need a bike like this. I'm 5'9" with an 
>> 83PBH and saddle height in the photo is 72cm.
>>
>> *Package 1 costs $2435 and includes:*
>> Susie f/f/hs/bb
>> Silver wide/low crank (38/24, 173)
>> Deore M4100 10spd shifter
>> Silver2 thumbshifter+mount
>> Skeleton Key FD
>> M5120 Deore 10/11spd RD
>> M4100 11-42 cassette
>> Nitto faceplater (TIG version) 85mm/25.4
>> Nitto Wavie bar
>> 57mm/2.25 Schwalbe G-ONE tires
>>
>> *Package 2 adds the wheels and dynamo lighting setup for $3200:*
>> 32h Velocity Quills rims
>> Sapim Race spokes
>> VO rear hub
>> Son Dlx Wide body front hub
>> BM Toplight rear light
>> Edelux front light
>>
>> Need your own seatpost, saddle, pedals, grips, brakes and levers. I can 
>> be convinced to add these things in if there's any interest. (MKS, Paul, 
>> Nitto etc.)
>>
>> If you only want the frame + some things, feel free to let me know and we 
>> can work something out.
>>
>> Price does not include shipping. I won't know how much shipping is 
>> because it depends on what goes in, but it will probably cost around ~$300 
>> for the complete and less for just the frame (no wheels). Free if you're 
>> local and you want to pick it up at Rivendell HQ!
>>
>>
>> [image: calvin's susie.jpeg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Touch-up paint

[Bill Lindsay]

Orange Sam Hillbornes and Orange Rambouillets are both "sparkly metallic 
Orange" in color FAMILY.  They are not identical.  The multi-coated 
treatment of the Orange Rambouillets have been described as a "thousand 
dollar paint job".  Whether a scratch on an Orange Rambouillet could be 
made slightly less ugly with the $50 Hilborne Orange touchup from 
Waterford, that's up to the beholder.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 1:35:04 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> Does anyone know if the Sam Hilborne Orange is the same as Rambouillet 
> orange?
> Max 
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:21:02 PM UTC-4 Roy Summer wrote:
>
>> Sometimes you can find nail polish that will match or come very close. 
>> Clear polish will help prevent rust if you can’t find a color match.
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:31:18 PM UTC-4 gds...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I need Pea Sage Green. Got a "beusage" spot on my Romulus.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024, 4:49 PM Zac  wrote:
>>>
 FWIW, I was checking the Gunnar/Waterford site to see if they had my 
 paint color (I ordered a bottle when I first heard they were shutting 
 down, 
 but it broke during a move) and noticed they added some Riv colors:

 Rivendell Atlantis Green
 Rivendell Cream
 Rivendell Head Tube Ivory
 Rivendell Homer Hilsen Blue
 Rivendell Jay's Green
 Rivendell Light Blue Met
 Rivendell Light Green
 Rivendell Pearly Arctic Blue
 Rivendell Roadeo R
 Rivendell Roadeo White
 Rivendell Sage
 Rivendell Sam Hilborne Orange

 I think the touch-up paint is now shipped in plastic bottles instead of 
 glass like I received.
 https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/store/Touch-up-one-step-p579850196

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Re: [RBW] Touch-up paint

[maxcr]

Does anyone know if the Sam Hilborne Orange is the same as Rambouillet 
orange?
Max 

On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 10:21:02 PM UTC-4 Roy Summer wrote:

> Sometimes you can find nail polish that will match or come very close. 
> Clear polish will help prevent rust if you can’t find a color match.
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 9:31:18 PM UTC-4 gds...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I need Pea Sage Green. Got a "beusage" spot on my Romulus.
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2024, 4:49 PM Zac  wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I was checking the Gunnar/Waterford site to see if they had my 
>>> paint color (I ordered a bottle when I first heard they were shutting down, 
>>> but it broke during a move) and noticed they added some Riv colors:
>>>
>>> Rivendell Atlantis Green
>>> Rivendell Cream
>>> Rivendell Head Tube Ivory
>>> Rivendell Homer Hilsen Blue
>>> Rivendell Jay's Green
>>> Rivendell Light Blue Met
>>> Rivendell Light Green
>>> Rivendell Pearly Arctic Blue
>>> Rivendell Roadeo R
>>> Rivendell Roadeo White
>>> Rivendell Sage
>>> Rivendell Sam Hilborne Orange
>>>
>>> I think the touch-up paint is now shipped in plastic bottles instead of 
>>> glass like I received.
>>> https://waterfordbikes.com/fv/store/Touch-up-one-step-p579850196
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Re: [RBW] Paint Color matters! Your favorite?

[Jay Lonner]

Rambouillet orange. Jay LonnerBellingham, WASent from my Atari 400On May 31, 2024, at 13:03, Patrick Moore  wrote:My favorite Riv color was the Sage Green that they offered 20 years ago when I ordered road custom #3, but I think this same color, or much like it, has featured on stock models since then. The 2003 had lovely Joe Bell Sage Green with cream accents.The immediately earlier (1999) road custom was painted in metallic navy with cream accents; also lovely;BUT!When I had the '99 modified locally in 2018, I had the builder take it to our -- then! -- local bike powdercoat specialist and have it colored Ford Blue. This coater had the knack of even, smooth, "liquid" coatings that beat most paintjobs, IMO, and the Ford Blue on that 1999 is now my favorite color.Said coater some years ago had coated an old Rene Herse; he got close to the (admittedly faded; bike was from 1958, so I was told) light blue, but above all the coating had that "liquid" look that, again, looked better than most paint jobs.Alas, when Chauncey built my 2020 Riv Road clone for IGH/fixed drivetrains, said coater was no longer available, and the coater he did use was far less expert: there's very, very slight orange peel on this coating.My photographic skills are just mm higher than "nil," so extrapolate. 1937 Sturmey Archer TC hub.On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:46 PM Guy LeVan  wrote:Rivendell should revisit this wonderful paint color for some of their models.  This is the fork from a 2000 Heron Road bike that I’m building.  The blue/green metallic is fantastic in the sun.  



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bedrock Mountain Clogs Leather Size 13

[Kevin M]

Man, I bought some Chaco suede ToeCoop clogs off eBay last week and they 
are awesome. For those who balk at the Bedrock price tag and need the extra 
width and arch support they are a great option. Unfortunately, they are no 
longer made so eBay is probably the only option. 

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 9:48:58 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Yes I do have the Bedrock Cairn sandal. I followed the sizing instructions 
> on Bedrocks site. I think I was more true to size. I agree that I could use 
> a half size bigger. 
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> I recently picked up clogs and the Cairn EVO sandals. The clogs that fit 
>> me were one size up from the sandals. A friend of mine just picked up both 
>> as well and he was the same. Clogs a size up from the sandals.
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 30, 2024, at 7:34 AM, Brian Forsee  wrote:
>>
>> Tim/Michael,
>>
>>
>> Do you guys also have bedrock sandals? Did you size up on the clog 
>> compared to the sandal? I wear the 12M sandal, but have a little bit of 
>> room on the footbed. If they made half sizes a 11.5 would probably be spot 
>> on for me. I don't think my sandals are the new EVO, they are from 2017 
>> (re-sole club!). 
>>
>> I was really excited about the clogs but was bummed when i found out they 
>> were not US manufactured and never ended up buying a pair.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 7:07:55 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> I hope you enjoy those new to you clogs Michael!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:05:57 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
 And sold

 On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I picked up a size 12 off the list this month from Tim to replace my 
> too large for me size 13s.
>
> I bought these brand new from Bedrock during their last run last Fall. In 
> good shape, some crank wear on the side (I mainly rode in these). There's 
> a 
> faint mark on the top of one, I tried to capture in the pics. Soles are 
> in 
> great shape.
>
> $100 shipped in USA
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFhFnM3bFmh1jMvKA
>
> Mike in Minneapolis
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[RBW] DIY Clem build: segue: cheapest new Clem?

[Patrick Moore]

As someone who stands on the sidelines and reads about others' Clems, and
thinks that he too might one day buy one as a sort of "just ride" beater
about town:

Who has spent the least amount of money on a Clem, in what year, and built
with what parts?

Me, I think of buying a very used and cosmetically thrashed Clem frameset
for cheap and building it somehow either as a fixed gear, or single speed,
or with that otherwise despised and useless S3X hub with about 75 miles on
it (tho' that will probably go first to the extremely tall and short  late
'80s/early '90s KHS mtb frameset I just bought to replace That Libertas).

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Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Dorothy C]

When I built up the third Riv I bought, a Cheviot, after having bought a 
webspecial Appa and a Riv built Roadini, I ran into the classic mistake of 
not knowing what I didn’t know, and rejoined a section of 9 speed chain 
with the previous pin, instead of using an extra quick link. Shortly after 
the build, I was changing gear to go through an intersection when the chain 
snapped, completely shearing my derailleur in half and twisting part of the 
chain 90 degrees. I wasn’t pedaling very hard. Luckily there was no other 
traffic and I was able to push the bike clear of the street. I bent the 
derailleur hanger and scraped a couple of spokes and the drive side fender 
stay. I do build my own bikes now, but I have a lot more know how than I 
did in 2019 when I got the Cheviot.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 10:34:52 AM UTC-7 John Dewey wrote:

> +1 on the fender washers and threaded rod. If you're not building bikes 
> every day, this solution works remarkably well.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 6:33:00 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:40 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>
>>> Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for 
>>> a home mechanic, in my experience. 
>>>
>>
>> Not if you use a hammer. Seriously, this is how I installed my first 
>> ones, but those were cheap steel and I was lucky. No, don't try it. Now I 
>> use a crude press made from thick threaded rod with big fender washers and 
>> nuts; works fine and I do this only every 10 years or so.
>>
>> The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket 
>>> spindle length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all 
>>> need to play together correctly.
>>>
>>
>> +1. Buy your parts at a good shop who can tell you what size you need. 
>> FDs: Am I right in thinking that fds from the 5 sp era were more fiddly 
>> than modern (I count 7400s as modern) ones? Or am I just more experienced? 
>> I used to sweat over fds.
>>
>> Interesting thread. I started tearing down and building bikes in complete 
>> and blissful ignorance on a dirty concrete garage floor with poor light and 
>> minimal tools -- monkey wrench for headsets and bb fixed cup, nail and 
>> hammer and big nut for chains, largely pliers and vise grip for the rest. 
>> If you have good set of general DIY tools you are already light years ahead.
>>
>

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[RBW] FT: My 60cm Platypus for your 55/54 Atlantis/Appa/Gus?

[Christian B-H]

Hi Folks,  I love my Platypus, but use it mostly for grocery and kid 
carrying and have realized that at my own 200lbs, it flexes just a little 
bit too much when I have my daughter on the back of the bike or heavy 
groceries in the front. 

¿Anyone have an Appa (54 or 57) or Atlantis (55) or Gus (57) that they'd 
like to trade for a slightly more road focused Platypus?

Open to frame or complete trades, or a combination. 

- Christian in Boulder, CO

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Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[John Dewey]

+1 on the fender washers and threaded rod. If you're not building bikes 
every day, this solution works remarkably well.



On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 6:33:00 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:40 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a 
>> home mechanic, in my experience. 
>>
>
> Not if you use a hammer. Seriously, this is how I installed my first ones, 
> but those were cheap steel and I was lucky. No, don't try it. Now I use a 
> crude press made from thick threaded rod with big fender washers and nuts; 
> works fine and I do this only every 10 years or so.
>
> The next hardest job is ordering the correct parts: bottom bracket spindle 
>> length and crank and (if you're using one) the front derailer all need to 
>> play together correctly.
>>
>
> +1. Buy your parts at a good shop who can tell you what size you need. 
> FDs: Am I right in thinking that fds from the 5 sp era were more fiddly 
> than modern (I count 7400s as modern) ones? Or am I just more experienced? 
> I used to sweat over fds.
>
> Interesting thread. I started tearing down and building bikes in complete 
> and blissful ignorance on a dirty concrete garage floor with poor light and 
> minimal tools -- monkey wrench for headsets and bb fixed cup, nail and 
> hammer and big nut for chains, largely pliers and vise grip for the rest. 
> If you have good set of general DIY tools you are already light years ahead.
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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?

[John Dewey]

For sure, the axiom 'Know Thyself' applies here.

Regarding the earlier suggestion to 'have at it' should probably be
tempered with honest assessment of your skills and inclinations. I think my
greatest fear has been, among others like cross-threading, for example,
dropping a wrench on fragile tubing somewhere resulting in a nasty dent.

That's just a bad experience right there...and one not so easily remedied.
Scratches not so much trouble as you can touch up, but dents—yikes.
Horrible.

JD





On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:16 AM Pam Bikes  wrote:

> I know you are mechanically inclined.  I am not.  But either way, I would
> be impatient and would want to ride it immediately so I'd let them build
> it.  At least the first time.  When I got my complete, I was so happy just
> to jump on and ride it.  It was 99% perfect.  I hardly changed anything.
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:32:14 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle
>> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike
>> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically
>> inclined.
>>
>> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a
>> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been
>> wiser to just order it complete?
>>
>> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something
>> stupid!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bedrock Mountain Clogs Leather Size 13

[Tim Bantham]

Yes I do have the Bedrock Cairn sandal. I followed the sizing instructions 
on Bedrocks site. I think I was more true to size. I agree that I could use 
a half size bigger. 

On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I recently picked up clogs and the Cairn EVO sandals. The clogs that fit 
> me were one size up from the sandals. A friend of mine just picked up both 
> as well and he was the same. Clogs a size up from the sandals.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 30, 2024, at 7:34 AM, Brian Forsee  wrote:
>
> Tim/Michael,
>
>
> Do you guys also have bedrock sandals? Did you size up on the clog 
> compared to the sandal? I wear the 12M sandal, but have a little bit of 
> room on the footbed. If they made half sizes a 11.5 would probably be spot 
> on for me. I don't think my sandals are the new EVO, they are from 2017 
> (re-sole club!). 
>
> I was really excited about the clogs but was bummed when i found out they 
> were not US manufactured and never ended up buying a pair.
>
> Brian
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 7:07:55 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> I hope you enjoy those new to you clogs Michael!
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:05:57 PM UTC-4 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>
>>> And sold
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 2:37:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:
>>>
 I picked up a size 12 off the list this month from Tim to replace my 
 too large for me size 13s.

 I bought these brand new from Bedrock during their last run last Fall. In 
 good shape, some crank wear on the side (I mainly rode in these). There's 
 a 
 faint mark on the top of one, I tried to capture in the pics. Soles are in 
 great shape.

 $100 shipped in USA

 Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFhFnM3bFmh1jMvKA

 Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

[Josh C]

Brian, 

Congrats on a beautiful new bike. It looks killer, enjoy!

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 10:25:05 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Congratulations on that gorgeous Susie! Did you find it difficult to 
> schlep it around on public transportation, or was it not a big deal?
>
> As for tires, I’ve only had Teravail Ehline 2.5s on my Gus, and I have 
> found them quite enjoyable for cruising around town on pavement and they’re 
> great on trails too. Since it’s my only real “off road” bike that I would 
> use on the local mtn bike trails, I’ll probably never put faster, smoother 
> tires on it… but you never know.
>
> Brian
> Lexington KY 
>
> On May 31, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>
> Beautiful!  Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> 29 x 2.5” slick:
>>
>>
>> https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595_source=1=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcB
>>
>> I’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. 
>> Better than Big Apples IMO. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>
>>> I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help 
>>> me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... 
>>> overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. 
>>>
>>> Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. 
>>> Couldn't be happier!
>>>
>>> Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. 
>>> There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with 
>>> something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack 
>>> and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust 
>>> settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts 
>>> here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. 
>>>
>>> Build overview:
>>>
>>>- Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
>>>- Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver 
>>>pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love 
>>> with 
>>>the champagne color. 
>>>- IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
>>>- Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. 
>>>I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm 
>>> spinning 
>>>out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly 
>>> recommended.
>>>- B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then 
>>>evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
>>>- Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and 
>>>the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're 
>>>gorgeous... thank you Rich!
>>>- I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of 
>>>the clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I 
>>>commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much 
>>>complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I 
>>>noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, 
>>> and 
>>>he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for 
>>>now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but 
>>>very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was 
>>>looking for!
>>>
>>> After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San 
>>> Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in 
>>> Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2015.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2028.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool 
>>> conversations.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

[Brian Turner]

Congratulations on that gorgeous Susie! Did you find it difficult to schlep it around on public transportation, or was it not a big deal?As for tires, I’ve only had Teravail Ehline 2.5s on my Gus, and I have found them quite enjoyable for cruising around town on pavement and they’re great on trails too. Since it’s my only real “off road” bike that I would use on the local mtn bike trails, I’ll probably never put faster, smoother tires on it… but you never know.BrianLexington KY On May 31, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Pam Bikes  wrote:Beautiful!  Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:29 x 2.5” slick:https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595_source=1=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcBI’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. Better than Big Apples IMO. EricOn Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT  wrote:Hi Everyone!I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. Couldn't be happier!Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. Build overview:Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with the champagne color. IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm spinning out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're gorgeous... thank you Rich!I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, and he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was looking for!After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool conversations.B



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[RBW] Re: DIY build or order complete?

[Pam Bikes]

I know you are mechanically inclined.  I am not.  But either way, I would 
be impatient and would want to ride it immediately so I'd let them build 
it.  At least the first time.  When I got my complete, I was so happy just 
to jump on and ride it.  It was 99% perfect.  I hardly changed anything.  

On Tuesday, May 28, 2024 at 11:32:14 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote:

> Hi all, 
> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle 
> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike 
> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically 
> inclined. 
>
> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a 
> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been 
> wiser to just order it complete? 
>
> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something 
> stupid!
>
> Thanks,
>

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lugged Susie

[Pam Bikes]

Beautiful!  Thanks for sharing the build details and pictures.

On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 5:12:31 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> 29 x 2.5” slick:
>
>
> https://www.danscomp.com/maxxis-grifter-street-tire-black-wire-29-2.5-single-compound-tb96802000/p1199883?v=333595_source=1=Cj0KCQjw6uWyBhD1ARIsAIMcADotduv7BcCqUl017rDaIfv_Ma_B5J2tSEK5CuR_2y0cqxoyOG39MFAaAgmKEALw_wcB
>
> I’ve used the Grifter on some bikes, and they seem to roll pretty well. 
> Better than Big Apples IMO. 
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024, BrianT  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone!
>>
>> I mostly lurk, but a couple months ago several of you chimed in to help 
>> me decide between a Susie and an Appaloosa. Thanks for all the input... 
>> overall conclusion was that I wouldn't regret either. 
>>
>> Well today I took BART over to Walnut Creek and picked up my Susie. 
>> Couldn't be happier!
>>
>> Everyone at RBW was great with my questions, and the build is fantastic. 
>> There are a couple things left to customize: I'll try the bars with 
>> something cool eventually, and I'm still looking for a porteur-style rack 
>> and a light to go with the SON hub. I think once I let the financial dust 
>> settle I'll spring for an Edelux. By the time the next rainy season starts 
>> here I'll figure out how to fender these giant (for me) tires. 
>>
>> Build overview:
>>
>>- Bosco bars with a 90-190 stem (110mm).
>>- Silver low-low crank with Grip Monarchs. I was set on silver 
>>pedals, but there were none in stock, and now I'm completely in love with 
>>the champagne color. 
>>- IRD silver Cafam brake levers with Shimano DXRs.
>>- Silver thumbies and an Altus rear derailer with an 11-36 cassette. 
>>I haven't used a "high" gear in forever. Any time I feel like I'm 
>> spinning 
>>out I'm just grateful for a chance to coast. Lazy, but highly recommended.
>>- B17 saddle that I already owned. I'll ride this for a bit and then 
>>evaluate whether I want something wider or sprung.
>>- Wheels are Cliffhangers with brass nipples, a SON28 up front, and 
>>the new Silver rear hub in back. 32 and 36 spokes respectively. They're 
>>gorgeous... thank you Rich!
>>- I really agonized over the tires. I wanted to take advantage of the 
>>clearance and run big, low pressure tires for comfort and fun. But I 
>>commute on pavement, and wanted something that rolls without much 
>>complaint. Nobody's making a 2.5 inch slick, as far as I can tell :). I 
>>noticed in a youtube video that Will had a pair of Kendas on his Susie, 
>> and 
>>he pointed me to these Saber Pros (discontinued, but still available for 
>>now on Kenda's website). They're 2.6 inches, and have a respectable but 
>>very low profile tread. Ask me later if it's the goldilocks tire I was 
>>looking for!
>>
>> After picking it up, I jumped back on BART, and once I was in San 
>> Francisco I made a beeline for Ocean Beach, hitting a bit of trail in 
>> Golden Gate Park. Two thumbs up so far!
>>
>> [image: IMG_2015.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_2028.jpeg]
>>
>> Thanks again, everyone, for the advice and all of the other cool 
>> conversations.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet & Romulus. A visual comparison.

[Chuck Walton]

In Stanton Heights, so every ride ends with a climb!

Both bikes are rapid-rise, so in theory the springs and cables are at their 
most restful setting. 
On Friday, May 31, 2024 at 7:14:37 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Not only are these two in their smallest gear but also in the appropriate 
> cranks 90° to the seat tube, drive side high, suggestive of being ready to 
> put it to the pedals and climb!
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 11:32:11 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:05:05 PM UTC-5 notlaw...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The 63cm Romulus received a mild rebuild over the winter, and since I had 
>> the tripod handy I decided to photograph and visually compare the two.
>>
>>
>> Both bikes in their smallest gears. Like!
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet & Romulus. A visual comparison.

[ascpgh]

Not only are these two in their smallest gear but also in the appropriate 
cranks 90° to the seat tube, drive side high, suggestive of being ready to 
put it to the pedals and climb!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 11:32:11 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 7:05:05 PM UTC-5 notlaw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The 63cm Romulus received a mild rebuild over the winter, and since I had 
> the tripod handy I decided to photograph and visually compare the two.
>
>
> Both bikes in their smallest gears. Like!
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA 
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