[RBW] For SALE- Fabs Fanny-Waxed Cordura-Tan BAG $155

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Like new.  Used about 300 miles, never in rain, beautiful.(a rub mark where 
you cinch it around stem.)  Never even unfolded the hidden waist straps 
that are nicely tucked into the wool  felted back.  Bright yellow interior. 
 12.5" x 8" x 4.5" (inches)

3 level German-made magnetic snap closure for easy one handed access

-removable and washable merino wool felt pad to microclimate against your 
skin in FANNY MODE

-velcro side pockets on both sides large enough for a full sized  phone

-belt tucks neatly behind pad for handlebar use

-included 2 voile 6" nano straps for handlebar mount 

-front zipper pocket

-internal snap pocket

-amost waterproof like most waxed cordura

new on la Ron's site for $175 plus shipping

YOurs for $155 plus shipping

Kate (with too many bags) Trenton, NJ

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Re: [RBW] Annual Head-Badge Poster Update

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Excellent work.  Thank you for sharing.
Kate

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:25:11 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> Marty, this is beautiful and an incredible design effort. Thanks so much. 
> It’s lovely to see them laid out like that. 
>
> On Nov 30, 2022, at 11:16, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Had some time to update the poster, and made a number of changes to keep 
> things interesting. Hope you all like it.
>
>
>1. Highlighted the very first Rivendell badge (cast pewter) front and 
>center and larger than life.
>2. Swapped in a new version of the Riv badge in purple at the top left 
>- I had not seen this one before. I like it!
>3. Brought back the Heron badge. I LOVE it! 
>4. Swapped in a different version of the Roadeo badge - this time in 
>blue.  
>5. Added the latest badge: the "Roaduno" even though it's not being 
>sold yet. 
>6. Enlarged the entire poster to 18X24 to accommodate all the badges. 
>Frames are standard for this size print. 
>
> I keep thinking this will be the last update,  but if RIvendell continues 
> to add new models I'm duty bound to plug ahead. 
>
> As always, here's the link to the hi-res file on Flickr. Download and 
> print to your heart's content! Enjoy the holiday season and every ride 
> throughout the year!
>
> Rivendell Badge Poster File 
> 
>
> Marty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo 2022

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Oh what fun it was.  I was there for Saturday only .  The hugs and laughs 
were good all around from the RivSisters to Riv guys and new friends.  When 
someone came up to our lunch table and asked if we were the Riv table we 
all chuckled.  It was just a good time.  I will plan on  coming next year 
and getting a room so I can spend 2 nights and more laughs.  Thank you Leah 
for your excellent reportage.  I wish we had video of Pam's presentation 
because it was a smile a minute and worthy of late night TV.
Kate (with my big energy and expressive green eyes which I'll take as a 
compliment as per Leah) 

On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 8:28:22 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Thank you for sharing the Philly Bike Expo stories. I too liked the Carbon 
> Guy story. He probably is telling folks about the Steel ladies he sat with 
> and I wonder if he is rethinking his bike??? Doubt it but maybe he will 
> give steel a try! Leah, you have a gift of writing! I feel like I was there 
> almost. I rode this evening after work in what felt like London with the 
> mist, cool damp air and swirling wind. The Clem made it fun and I covered 
> 28 miles with no discomfort at all. Steel is real and Rivendells are swell. 
> haha
> Doug
>
> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 4:09:47 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Such great stories and pics! I love Pam and The Carbon Guy, I could 
>> picture the whole thing and hear it in Pam's voice, so delicious 😁👏👏👏
>>
>> You're so right about kickstands, I pulled mine off the custom for a 
>> while in a ridiculous journey towards "make it lighter" and it was sheer 
>> misery. The kickstand is back! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 10:15:04 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What Pam is not telling you is that I would have to figure out how to do 
>>> it from her 2007 Apple iPod, with its geriatric operating system, lol! I 
>>> did do a mini Instagram takeover of her account but gave up fairly soon 
>>> because it was 1 am and also because it was WORK to post from that device! 
>>> Pam, I know it might kill you to get an iPhone, but I think it might be 
>>> time. 
>>>
>>> Glad your last night went well; next year just get a room with me and we 
>>> can do all the IG takeovers and stay up too late and always have a riding 
>>> partner to get to our room.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Pam Bikes  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have pictures but Leah will need to tell me how to post them.  And 
>>> I'm at the airport.  Somehow I slept ok b/c I was so tired from the prior 
>>> days.  So much fun!  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 12:25:02 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 (Do not read until you watch the scandalous video Leah posted above.)

 Scandalous? Perhaps.  Or not.

  I asked Will and he cannot get the seat high enough, so biking on 
 those “sucks the fun out of biking” city bikes hurt his knees with the 
 saddle too low, and one of those bikes in the video helps. James and Vince 
 needed to keep up. 

 On Monday, October 31, 2022 at 10:26:12 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Scandalous video of the Rivendell staff:
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Your Rivendell: White Pine Trail, Grand Rapids, MI

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Most excellent!!!

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:33:30 AM UTC-4 Rusty Click wrote:

> Looks cold!  Still sorry to have missed it.
>
> Beautiful colors popping on the trees.
>
>
> Rusty 
> Pgh, PA
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:25:45 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Looks cold! But pretty and fun!! But cold!!! 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:37:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> We had a fantastic ride today, in peak color and with awesome people. 
>>> More on that later. But for now: 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 7:46:18 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I hope to see a lot of you and your lovely Rivbikes tomorrow. And if 
 there would just be one RivSister in the bunch I would be so happy. 

 But, if not, I’ll represent. 

 Leah

 On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 7:00:20 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I sent you a PM…
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 14, 2022, at 6:27 PM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
> Is there a contact list going into tomorrow?  My number is 
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>, and I intend to depart Chicagoland 
> ~5 AM tomorrow.  See y'all tomorrow!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:41:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> <> TRAIL
>>
>> First, a caveat: This ride is not affiliated with Rivendell Bicycle 
>> Works; we are a group of Rivendell owners who want to ride our bikes 
>> together. Organizers are not liable for bodily injury or damage to your 
>> bike. If you are comfortable riding at your own risk, then:
>>
>> Join us on the famous White Pine Trail near Grand Rapids, Michigan 
>> for a ride through Michigan’s fall foliage. The date is quickly 
>> approaching; here are the details so you can make plans to attend.
>>
>> When: October 15th, 10 am
>> Where: Dwight Lydell Park in Comstock Park
>> What: a 32 mile ride, round trip. Ride to Cedar Springs with lunch in 
>> Rockford on our way back.
>>
>> If you choose to make a weekend of it, there are many National and 
>> state campgrounds within an hour of the park. If weather does not 
>> cooperate, this ride is rescheduled for Oct 29th. 
>>
>> This is our 2nd Rivendell Ride of 2022; the first was in Kalamazoo, 
>> MI on the KalHaven Trail. I hope to see familiar faces and new in Grand 
>> Rapids on Saturday. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Basket Rack: is it too heavy?

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3 Triangles on back for sure!
Kate

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:33:23 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Because more is MORE! 🤣 Totally doing it.
>
> On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:31 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> Leah, what a nice change!  Your bike is perfect.  I'm with Jason...3 
> triangles on the back, just like he described.
>
>
> Joyce
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 6:23:30 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Yeah looks great!  The rear basket would look silly on the racing 
>> platypus, but it just fits in with what this bike is for.  
>>
>> Hear me out on the triangle:  one orange triangle on the back of each 
>> pannier, and the green one up on the basket for three (!) rear triangles 
>> and nice symmetry. The Rons bag is already a giant safety triangle for the 
>> front, effectively
>>
>> On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 18:14:18 UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks good Leah! You’ve inspired me to try a switcheroo on my Rosco (of 
>>> which I still need to post photos of on the group).
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I picked up my bike today. I had the work done yesterday but when I got 
>>> home I realized the rear dyno light wasn’t illuminating. Back I went, and 
>>> since the shop was working on the light, I begged them to fix the wiring 
>>> job they had done. The wires were bunched up and zip tied with black zip 
>>> ties right behind my head tube. Really unsightly. I brought my raspberry 
>>> Platypus along to illustrate a beautiful wiring job. I told them I’d pay 
>>> them all over again for labor (to their credit, they tried not to accept, 
>>> but I think it was fair to pay again because they were redoing the wiring 
>>> for cosmetic reasons) if we could just mirror the red bike’s wiring. They 
>>> studied the racing Platypus and snapped some photos. Then, they got to 
>>> work. 
>>>
>>> There was some problem with the connection for the rear light, so they 
>>> replaced it. And there was an extra connection behind the headlight, so 
>>> they eliminated it. They zip-tied the wires to the cables that run 
>>> alongside the down tube. They secured the extra wire near the kickstand 
>>> plate instead of by the pretty lugs at the head tube. Nice and hidden. This 
>>> is not the bike I’m precious about, but I still like it to look pretty. The 
>>> shop did a really nice job; I bet they will do their zip ties to the cables 
>>> from now on. There really isn’t any drawback that I can see and it is so 
>>> aesthetically pleasing. If I ever get access to mint-colored zip ties I’ll 
>>> replace the black ones.
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Here it is, bare naked:
>>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I put the basket on the rack and hung the bags. It feels very different 
>>> without the weight on the front end, but I think I love it. I have had zero 
>>> time to ride tonight, but should weather cooperate, I’ll test it out this 
>>> weekend. I really, REALLY love that I no longer deal with wheel flop. 
>>>
>>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>>
>>> The reflector on the side of the Ron’s bag needs a new home. To be 
>>> determined.
>>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your help and posts on this thread! It is fun to 
>>> reconfigure a bike in ways that might better serve.
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe, isn’t it the truth? I got it all put right now, I think! More on 
>>> that later. I’m headed out to dinner…
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Someday a bike shop is going to put one of your bikes back together 
>>> properly. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but that day will come.  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 7:23:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I got my bike done today at the shop and it has made a huge difference 
 in ease of lifting it onto the rack. I didn’t get far with setting it up 
 again because when I got home I realized the rear dyno light isn’t working 
 now. She shop had to mess with the dyno wiring and something is likely 
 off, 
 but I can’t see what. Also, they wadded up the wire and zip tied it to the 
 top tube, near that pretty head tube lug and it’s hideous. I will beg them 
 (and pay them again) to wire that bike more classily. My other bike is a 
 perfect example, so maybe I bring that in as a guide. 

 But, once I get these details handled, I do think I’m going to love the 
 improvements. Photos to come!

 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's because your romanceur is a low trail bike with 36mm of trail 
> as opposed to the 55-60mm on typical Rivendell bikes.  Conversely, that's 
> why the Romanceur won't ride well without a front load!  That makes bikes 
> like 

[RBW] Re: FS: Mermaid 55cm Rivendell Platypus Complete Bike

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Well Leah, that is a great story and your friend will be over the moon as 
we RivSisters are about these sorts of things!!!
RivSister Kate in Trenton, NJ

On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 6:23:29 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I’m sure she’ll love it and then say, “Ah, now I understand your 
> Riv-love.” 
>
> On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 4:25:02 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> To one of my best friends in all the world, it turns out! She had been 
>> saying, “I want a bike like yours” but I didn’t know if she would really do 
>> it. She has a carbon road bike and is a former triathlete, but she came to 
>> the Rivendell conclusion on her own after watching my Instagram account 
>> over the years. She wants a bike she can ride with a saddle that doesn’t 
>> hurt and that lets her sit up and see things in her new city. (We both 
>> moved away from Vegas in the last 9 months and we are exploring our new 
>> places by bike.) I can’t believe we are going to be real bike twins. It’s 
>> pretty grand.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 1:57:45 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I *knew *she would get this to somebody! 😁
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 10:48:19 AM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Sale pending thanks to 'Leah's Mixte Match Making Service'



 On Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 8:38:37 AM UTC-7 Slin wrote:

> Wow. I'd be all over this if it was the smaller size. Sweet bike.
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey group,
>>
>> We're shuffling around some bikes in order to get our Hubbuhubbuh 
>> together, my wife is taking over my 60cm Platypus which leaves her 
>> mermaid 
>> 55cm Platypus in need of a new home!
>>
>> This is a great opportunity for someone who either missed the recent 
>> Rosco Plats or doesn't want to wait until next year for the next round 
>> of 
>> lugged Platys (probably not coming in this gorgeous color either)
>>
>> This was the first production Platypus to make it into a customer's 
>> hands and has seen less than 1,000 miles. It's in very good condition, 
>> has 
>> had racks mounted so some wear at the braze on points but no serious 
>> scratches and certainly no dings to speak of.
>>
>> Complete sans pedals and seat.
>>
>> -Riv installed BB and HS
>> -Riv supplied seat post
>> -Nitto Albatross 55cm
>> -Nitto Tallux 90mm
>> -Origin8 brake levers
>> -Shimano BR-T4000 V-brakes
>> -170mm Sugino XD2 crankset/36t ring/Rivendell chain guard (1x)
>> -Rich Lesnik built Velocity Dyad rims to Shimano XT hubs
>> -700x42 Specalized Sawtooth tires
>> -11-42t 9-speed cassette
>> -Shimano Altus derailleur
>> -Pletscher kickstand
>>
>> Platypus Photos 
>> 
>>
>> I think that's all the stuff worth noting, we're asking $2,800 plus 
>> packing and shipping cost, or pickup in SLO, CA. 
>>
>> Can deliver to SF Bay Area in the mid October.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and please respond off list if interested :)
>>
>> Jared
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus Mods

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Beautiful additions.  The bar wrap is superb!!!  I have some temporary 
black wrap on mine until I finalize my bar choice. I have the Nitto Choco 
on currently.  Might want a bit of a rise and sweep so I'm still 
considering others.  What kind do you have on yours?
I have both the front and rear lights and they are a real treat.  I never 
even think of bringing my lights in to charge anymore.  
Happy riding
Kate, Trenton, NJ
On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 5:52:41 AM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:

> Last Saturday was rainy around here. I spent most of the day making some 
> changes on my Platy.
>  Swapped out the wheels, Schmidt front, White ind. rear, Mavic A719 rims. 
> New tires, Soma Vitesse 700x42's. Added Paul cross levers. I like to hold 
> the bars in the center going downhill and feel a lot safer with brake 
> levers under my hands. Lots of deer in the State park where I ride and I've 
> almost had a couple collisions on downhills.
> I installed lights. Eldelux 2 front, B&M tail light and fenders. V.O 63mm 
> fluted.
> Took me most of the day but it turned out pretty good. Photos attached.
> Took her out for a ride on Sunday. Picked up a dozen ears of Maryland 
> sweet corm. The more I ride this bike, the more I like it.
> Before and after shots of the bars. Added Ergon grips too. Moved the bell 
> to the stem.
> I like to hold the bars forward of the shifters sometimes.
> Richard
> [image: IMG_3396.JPG][image: IMG_3391.JPG][image: IMG_3394.JPG][image: 
> IMG_3395.JPG][image: IMG_3397.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: Kilts!

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Best cycling gear I've ever seen.  I'd love to see more kilts on bikes.  I 
currently wear a skirt when I bike now. Joyce, I too wore a kilt playing 
field hockey from 3rd -12 grade.  I really want one.  Philip, the color 
(and legs) are smashing.
Kate

On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 5:49:54 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> As a caber is about fifteen feet long, it would really screw up your 
> turning radius.
>
> The Highland Gathering and Games every Labor Day weekend was up at the 
> Sonoma County Fairgrounds in Santa Rosa for decades; it moved to the 
> Alameda County Fairgrounds in Pleasanton maybe 15-20 years ago. If I were 
> going to look for Scottish-esque bike accoutrements, I'd start there; the 
> times I've attended, there was booth after booth of Scottish kitsch of all 
> kinds.
>
> Bike-sympathetic breeks, maybe?
>
> https://thescottishgames.com/faqs
>
> Peter "saw world record-holding shotputter Brian Oldfield there in the 
> late 70s, tossing stones and cabers; he was a BEAST" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 10:29:10 PM UTC-7 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> I bet there’s a caber carrier I could get, too. Some sort of trailer 
>> apparatus.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: #PlatyPosing: Post your pics here! (Riv Mixtes welcome, too.)

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Welcome to the PlatyPose Posse, Christian,
I love the story and love the bike.  I got mine last year (First ever Riv) 
and I'm still making adjustments to it.  I love the ride.  I wish you many 
happy miles on it and look forward to hearing about your racing adventures 
like Leah.  
Kate in New Jersey

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 8:25:32 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> Christian, 
>
> Well, this takes the cake for me. Oh, swoon. I love the pics. Love the 
> story. Love the angst to have a Riv just building and building in this 
> compelling account. And then you went ahead and got the very best and most 
> beautiful Rivendell that RBW makes! 
>
> Also, the PlatyPosing. You understood the assignment. 
>
> If you take that thing on group rides I’ll just tip over with joy. Two 
> Racing Platypuses? I feel faint. Carry on! Ride the wheels off of it and 
> let us know how it’s going. I rode my raspberry Platy 34.4 miles with a Sam 
> Hillborne rider today and it was bliss, start to finish. I rode it 28 miles 
> in a club ride last night, and same story. Pam Murray once said that there 
> are no junk miles on a Riv; they are all golden miles. I wish you millions 
> of them.
>
> Welcome to the Platy club! You’ll love it here.
> Leah
>
>
>
> On Jun 7, 2022, at 6:38 PM, Christian B-H  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Apologies, photos included here!
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image10.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 4:34:30 PM UTC-6 Christian B-H wrote:
>
>> I could hardly be more excited to finally, after probably 3 or 4 years, 
>> be an official Riv *owner* not simply *reader*. In November/December I 
>> had *really *wanted a Gus. I missed it, and bought a Surly Karate Monkey 
>> in it's place. The chainstays are short, but it wheelies well and is fun to 
>> ride with jones bars. In March and April, I really wanted an Atlantis. I 
>> was too slow to decide to buy Bill Lindsey's, and hadn't convinced my wife 
>> in time to reserve one of the new batchBut, in the end, with some help 
>> from everyone here and especially Clark Fitzgerald's great report on his 
>> 1yr with Atlantis then switch to the Platy, Leah Petersenn "sold" another 
>> one. I convinced myself the Atlantis would've overlapped with my existing 
>> bikes too much anyways...
>>
>> Serendipitously,  after reaching out for Riv Riders on the Front Range in 
>> Colorado, Lance from Littleton offered to let me ride, *and *sell me his 
>> 60cm Mermaid Platy. We had a great ride this past Sunday before I brought 
>> it home to push all my neighbors to take a spin on it too, and since then I 
>> have ridden it at least for 1 minute of every hour I think (jumping out of 
>> my work-from-home-station to the garage to take a spin!). 
>>
>> I *love *the all-black aesthetics a la Crust build with black Antelope 
>> Hill extralights or Rylands from his June 2 post. I will update one day 
>> with new, bigger tires, and also racks, followed by changing out the cranks 
>> for gearing that will let me tackle group rides a little easier, inspired 
>> of course by Leah, just to shake things up a little bit! In the meantime, I 
>> am over the moon (or at least mountains) with my first ever Riv!
>>
>> Just Ride (Mixtes), 
>>
>> Christian in Boulder, CO
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv asks: One bike forever, which one?

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Heavens, I'm Mermaid Platy Mixte forever butdid someone mention custom 
Clem with pearlescent pink paint like the Mermaid?  I would just get my own 
custom headbadge and rename the bike and that would be pretty cool.
Kate


On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 7:16:36 PM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> Jason,
> Interesting thought regarding choosing Gus. I was thinking along those 
> same lines. Somewhere I read a description of the  Gus as a cross between 
> an Atlantis and a Jones LWB, which gets me thinking about the 
> possibilities! Keep posting your ride reports!
> Randy in Wisconsin
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:12:10 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I noticed this in the Sheldon Brown / Grant Petersen interview Will 
>> posted on the site this week. The interview is undated but it must be from 
>> around 1996 because Grant mentions Reader No. 7 and my copy has a postmark 
>> date of May 1996. I'd wager Grant's answer in 2022 would be much different! 
>>
>> *bikesite:* If you could have any - but only one - bike to ride for the 
>> rest of your life, which would it be?
>>
>> *Grant Petersen:* "One bike" wouldn't be a hardship, and the answer 
>> comes easy. It would be a Rivendell All-Rounder, with a Brooks B.17 saddle, 
>> Ritchey Crossbite 1.1 tires, a Ritchey double with 48 x36 rings and a 13 x 
>> 28 6-speed cluster, SunTour bar end shifters, any derailleurs (I don't 
>> care), a Phil bb---it's pretty much a bike we sell, and that's why we sell 
>> it.
>>
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 6:23:05 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmm. I have already responded but now I'm thinking.. Gus Boots would be 
>>> a great pick. I could go literally anywhere, just not especially fast, and 
>>> carry anything I could want to. Probably run 50ish mm tires and fenders 
>>> most of the time, but swap on some 2.6" knobbies for trail rides. Hmmm. 
>>> Yes, that would do nicely.  
>>>
>>> And has the low TT! 
>>>
>>> Let's be honest though my answer will change every day which is why I 
>>> have five bikes. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 6:37 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Pam! 

 54.3cm ST x 63cm ETT. Which sounds wacky for me at 5'-7" but Grant 
 designed it for my arthritic wrists to have a really high bar reaching way 
 back. I cheated a bit by eventually replacing the Bosco it was supposed to 
 run for a tall-and-stubby DirtDrop stem and Leah Bars. Oops, sorry, I mean 
 Billie Bars! (It's Leah's favorite bar, she's talked a lot of us into them 
 🙂)

 It's a mostly-roads design not intended to carry heavy loads or tackle 
 crazy trails. Zippy and fun! 

 On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 6:21:25 PM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Once you have a mixe-ish dropped tube, you won't go back to a 
> horizontal top tube.  Just like dyno lights.  Great looking bike.  What 
> size is it?  I bet it's fun to ride.
>
> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Steel, mixte, this one! I'll own this bicycle as long as I can pedal 
>> it and maybe even after that cuz it's so fun to look at. 
>>
>> Btw as this is a Leah thread I should give her a shoutout for the 
>> design of my Rivendell Custom. It has the mixte-ish dropped tube because 
>> she believes in them and I decided she's right! 
>>
>> #toptubeswhoneedsem
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 10:28:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> The expected answer from me, of the bikes I own, would be the 
>>> Bombadil - but I'm not so sure I can say that confidently. It has the 
>>> versatility and tire clearance to be a one-bike, even for my high 
>>> varied 
>>> riding (from brevets to mountain bike trails), but I like how the 
>>> Hillborne 
>>> rides more!  The Hillborne also has a little more TT clearance for me, 
>>> which may become a bigger deal over time, and it's still stout enough 
>>> for 
>>> me to carry a full camping load. Only downside is the tire size 
>>> limitation... Ideally I'd get a custom that is basically a Hillborne 
>>> that 
>>> fits 48's with fenders, but that would be hard to justify ... mind you, 
>>> think of all the money I'd save selling four of my five bikes haha! 
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 06:22:50 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 1154624B-CA95-4486-9D2B-97EF158D1790.jpeg][image: 
 3F33C3A3-4976-4724-8514-59BFF118CA62.jpeg]

 If you follow Rivendell on Instagram, they asked their followers a 
 fun question yesterday: 

 You get one bike for the rest of your life - what frame material, 
 and what style - mixte or normal? 

 Attached is a screenshot of Grant’s quote and Betsy Streeter’s art. 

 What a question! The frame material and style is ea

[RBW] Re: Cherry Blossoms, Apricot Blossoms, Peach Blossoms

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I'm enjoying all these photos so much.  I bike for flowers and color and 
trees and sky and birds and everything.  These are wonderful and thank you 
for posting.
Kate in New Jersey

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 5:06:55 AM UTC-4 Takashi wrote:

> Thank you Jason!
> Around here, peach blossoms were already falling by the time I took the 
> last photo. It's raining now, so I think they'll be mostly gone by tomorrow.
> Cherry blossoms have not bloomed yet in Canada, I think? Enjoy your 
> cherries on your gorgeous RIv!
>
> Takashi
>
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Re: [RBW] Platy Lug: Different. Which one do you have?

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Leah, 
I sent you my photo.  Mermaid Platy 50 sleek and simple.
Kate

On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 10:08:21 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Mine looks like rowin 2 nowhere’s. Notice how the “fanciness” is facing 
> toward the tire  it’s hard to see that looking at it perpendicular to the 
> bike frame. 
>
> On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 6:14:15 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Platty Meraid!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2022, 7:06 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I stumbled upon something very interesting. I was taking my mermaid 
>>> Platypus out for a ride and I happened to notice what I thought was a large 
>>> drop of water on the bottom bracket lug. It wasn’t - it’s a cut-out. It 
>>> looked so foreign to me, so I looked at my raspberry Platypus. 
>>>
>>> Totally different lugs. 
>>>
>>> My raspberry is a sample bike. It made sense to me that it might have a 
>>> different, simpler lug. But then I started looking on Instagram. Now, who 
>>> takes photos of the bottom bracket lug (is that the name for it? I don’t 
>>> know.)? Almost no one. But I found a mermaid Platy on Blue Lug’s account 
>>> and it has the same lug as my raspberry bike. So, it is not because my bike 
>>> is a sample. It seems some Platys went out with the cut-out lug, and some 
>>> went out with the plain lug. I’ll attach photos in the following post…
>>>
>>> Which lug does your Platypus have? Why do you think they built the bikes 
>>> this way?
>>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

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Leah,
Keep having fun and making friends.  It's all part of the bike journey.  
I once showed up to an elite duathlon (bike+run) with my hybrid flat bar 
bike with a back rack.  I looked around at all the lycra kits and major 
bikes and didn't really know any better at the time.  I thought that 
because I could run and bike that I could do this.  Well, I was having a 
good ole time out on the course doing my own thing...I was solo.  I 
realized something was up when a car came up slowly behind me and asked if 
I was doing OK.  Apparently, all the bikers were off the course and 
finishing up the run.  I was still on the bike course, not in a pace line 
and not riding fast.  By the time I completed the bike portion, the 
participants were putting bikes on cars and eating pizzas.  I had to 
disembark my bike and run the 2 mile course in front of everyone.  In the 
end, I won 3rd place in my age group. (there were only 3 in my group) and 
just did my own thing.  
I've always had a back rack and trunk on my bike.  I rode in clubs but was 
never taken seriously even when I was a strong rider.  The pack and race 
mentality was very strong.  I couldn't keep up with the A or B riders but I 
could do the long distances that they did easily.  It seems like there 
wasn't a way to be in a club and do long distance but in a more casual pace 
so in the end, Lone Wolf Cycling was more my game.  
My suggestion is to just keep riding and trying new things and see how it 
goes.  You might find just the right match for your riding, learn along the 
way and educate others on upping their color dazzle game.  
Kate-still riding with a back rack and trunk- in New Jersey

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:26:28 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Bill: APPROVE 
>
> On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Speaking of riots of color:  My "Michigan Man" bike had boring black 
> knobbies on it, that were skinnier than ideal.  I swapped the tires out 
> last night for chubbier slicks in RED!!  I think Leah may approve of this 
> color riot:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/51988644588
>
> It's a krazy kandy kolored klown!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> Livonia MI
>
> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 8:16:56 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill! I laughed out loud, and I could use a laugh today. Riots of color 
>> ARE my thing - is it that obvious?! And I’m impressed that you manage 
>> switching between Eastern time and Pacific so well. It’s not hurt your wit, 
>> that’s for sure.
>>
>> The poor carbon bikes might be really good at what they’re designed to 
>> do, but they are rather soul-less looking. I looked around at the bikes in 
>> attendance and thought, “I guess the best you can hope to do is to throw on 
>> some colorful plastic bottle cages or a colorful seat bag and call it 
>> pretty.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Doug, I didn't mean it as a multiple choice.  I meant it as three 
>> embedded layers of "it ain't gonna happen".  
>>
>>
>> The *strongest* layer of "ain't gonna happen" in Leah's case is C.  
>>
>> A. 100:1 odds  Maybe 20 years from now all bikes are carbon.  She'd buy 
>> one if that was the only way
>> B. 10:1 odds  Maybe 30 years from now Specialized has patented "bicycle" 
>> and monopolizes the entire industry.  She'd buy one if that was the only way
>> C. 1,000,000:1 odds  Even if every bike in the world is a black carbon 
>> specialized, on her first ride she'd go buy a rattle can and get some color 
>> on that thing!
>>
>> BL in EC
>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 5:02:19 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>> My answer to the multiple choices is all of the above!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 7:52:51 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Eric Daume jokingly asked:  " how long until we see Leah on a black 
 carbon Diverge?"

 If we're taking bets, put my money on the "don't hold your breath" 
 box.  LOL!

 A.  I bet she won't ever ride carbon
 B.  If she ever rides carbon it won't be from Specialized
 C.  If she ever rides a carbon Specialized, it won't be black

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 7:35:44 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:

> So how long until we see Leah on a black carbon Diverge?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [image: 6982042D-DB05-4044-8AC4-9076A708539B.jpeg][image: 
>> 0221807D-FECC-440C-AE2E-AF03DDB70770.jpeg]We moved to Michigan 4 
>> months ago. After years of being a Lone Wolf I did the unthinkable and 
>> joined the local bike club. The club was founded by racers 50 (FIFTY!) 
>> years ago, but they seemed welcoming enough. Having never ridden in a 
>> group, I lacked knowledge of my pace and skill, did not knowif I’d enjoy 
>> club riding. I’ve never been a road rider. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Lost 2 Pounds!

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Gorgeous!  I love the Rene Herse tires.  congrats, #RivSister
Kate

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:50:22 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow! I just looked up those stock Kenda tires - the ones on the Clem 
> completes. They are nearly 1000 grams each! Now I understand the weight 
> loss.:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 11:32 AM, JAS  wrote:
>
> Oops! Sorry I forgot to include rim info...yes, they're Cliffhanger 
> rims.  Thank you all your comments; it's nice to have your feedback and 
> kind thoughts.  
>
>
> The change is noticeable and like Leah, I recognize that the Clem is 
> always going to be relatively heavy compared to my Platy.  It's such a 
> terrific bike for dirt paths, exploring new roads, getting groceries and 
> tackling the stupid, huge gravel somebody in the county office thought was 
> such a good idea to spread on one of my favorite trails.  I can bash 
> through there with Clem and not think twice about whether the bike or tires 
> or wheels (or I?) can handle it.  I had to "tip toe" over it with 
> Platy...riding gingerly and getting tossed about.  Clem is no brawler, but 
> with the new shoes I can just go for it and hang on.  It's thrilling, 
> really.
>
> Ride on #RivSisters and #RivBrothers!
>
> --Joyce
>
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:05:51 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> The tires and light tubes alone would make a big difference in ride 
>> quality (from what I have expereienced)
>>
>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:00:14 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am just so curious about this. Stock Atlas rims are 590 grams each. 
>>> Cliffhanger is 625 grams! So perhaps your new rims are something else?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>>
>>> Beautiful clem and wheel build - congrats! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:24:27 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It’s funny because I think they look like Cliffhanger also. Loving my 
 Clem which came with Deore / Cliffhanger build & I know they are 
 bulletproof but they seem heavy. I cannot imagine an additional 2lbs. of 
 rotational weight on this bike. I have been looking into Rene Herse tires 
 which by themselves look to save me between 1 - 1.5 lbs. I should mention 
 that my wheels have 36 spokes front & rear.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 12, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 Nice, Joyce!


 I'm also interested to know the rims. I can't remember what you had 
 before and I can't tell by zooming in but they kinda look like 
 Cliffhangers. 

 The bike looks great :) 

 On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 10:13:16 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Deore hubs but which rims?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know a lot of people won’t believe that 2 pounds off a bike is a 
> lot but it IS. I’m thrilled for you, RivSister Joyce. The Clem is great 
> but 
> is made greater with better and lighter wheels and tires. I will never, 
> ever part with my Clem! I have a pair of Platys, and one is set up with 
> front and rear racks while the other only has a lightweight rear rack. I 
> can absolutely feel the weight difference. I don’t mind that the mermaid 
> bike is heavy because it’s an errand/shopping bike and I knew it would be 
> stout, but it is a different thing to build a bike and FIND that it feels 
> heavy. You know what I mean?
>
>
> At any rate, I’m so excited for you. Please post back here now and 
> then and let us know how you’re getting on.
> Love,
> L
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 1:09:50 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Congratulations, Joyce!  Those are some serious “nothing’s going to 
>> stop me riding” tires.  
>>
>>  I, also, couldn’t believe the ride difference when I upgraded my 
>> wheels and tires. 
>>
>> Roberta 
>>
>> On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 11:24:42 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> You'll probably remember I wrote some time ago asking for ideas on 
>>> how to lighten up my Clem. Thanks to the great advice from this group, 
>>> I 
>>> *finally* got some new wheels and tires for Clem and oh, what a 
>>> difference!  Clem lost two pounds in the process and I got a more agile 
>>> bike with tires that will handle the mud and just about any other 
>>> trail/road condition.  
>>>
>>> I called Rivendell one day and just my luck, Rich happened to answer 
>>> the phone.  We discussed several possibilities including having him 
>>> build 
>>> the wheels, but then recommended the Velocity-built wheels with Deore 
>>> hubs.  I ordered the RH Juniper Ridge tires (650x48),  endurance 
>>> casing, 
>>> and Schwalbe ultraligh

Re: [RBW] Re: How do you track mileage?

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I'm a fan of the wired Cateye cyclometer.  I'm only interested in distance 
per ride and total/year.  I've used it for 30 years.  I love how basic it 
is and needs a battery replacement now and then.  Trip mileage and total 
mileage always at fingertips.  Never have to think about anything else.  I 
bought a new one for my sparkly Mermaid Platy.
Kate in Trenton, NJ

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 12:12:10 PM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> I also use Ride w/GPS to track my rides, and then transfer to paper. Often 
> after a stop in my ride, the app pauses and does not restart. On yesterdays 
> ride, you can see the second half of the ride is a straight line, which was 
> not the actual ride. I don’t look at the app when I ride so I don’t realize 
> the app is on pause  until I finish the ride. Steve
>
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 5:49 PM David Hallerman  wrote:
>
>> Kinda like me, except my biggest challenge using Ride With GPS is turning 
>> it off at the end of a ride.
>> On 3/2/22 1:20 PM, MoVelo wrote:
>>
>> I use Ride with GPS on my iPhone. It keeps track of yearly mileage and 
>> all the other stats, pauses when I pause and can run it the background 
>> whilst I surf other apps.  
>>
>> Also there is a pretty big library of rides from others who have shared 
>> with the app.
>>
>> Remembering to turn it on at the beginning of a ride is my biggest 
>> challenge. 
>>
>> JP
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 10:04:49 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> GPS mapping software is smart enough to understand a brief break for 
>>> tunnels. Bridges & underpasses are not a problem as there are multiple 
>>> satellites feeding the data all the way across the horizon so you may lose 
>>> a more overhead signal but not one coming at you from in front or behind. 
>>> As for accuracy, I'm not sure how much closer you want than the typical 16' 
>>> which the standard GPS receivers like your phone or Garmin deliver? Since 
>>> you're traveling rather than static you are giving the mapping software 
>>> flowing data points to extrapolate against for better accuracy than 
>>> standing still too.
>>>
>>> There's no way a cycle computer could be calibrated that accurately & 
>>> the margin of error will increase with the mileage.
>>>
>>> I use Strava combined with a Wahoo Tickr wrist strap as I like to be mix 
>>> up my HR efforts & I tend to ride too hard. I don't slavishly follow the 
>>> data but Strave lets you input which bike you rode that day which is a 
>>> great way of keeping overall mileage records.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 9:46:12 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 Reading through the blog post makes me wonder if anyone has ridden a 
 bike with a carefully calibrated cycle odometer - maybe using the "roll 
 out" method to determine accuracy - along with one of these GPS units to 
 see how accurate the GPS really is.  Seems like riding through areas where 
 the sky is blocked temporarily by tall buildings, underpasses, heavy 
 forestation, etc. would have to have some effect on overall mileage 
 tracked.  Plus, the run-of-the-mill GPS units that individuals can use, be 
 it a specific device (Garmin) or a cell phone,  aren't as accurate to 
 begin 
 with as the high quality equipment that people like surveyors use. 

 Just curious.  I have a friend who will be riding in the Great Cycle 
 Challenge, a fundraiser for the Children's Cancer Research Fund, again 
 this 
 year and I've carefully calibrated her cycle computer - which I'm not even 
 sure she's used - so she can compare the results with the GPS info that 
 the 
 fundraiser uses to track participant's mileage. 


 On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 8:38:52 AM UTC-6 aeroperf wrote:

> I use a Sigma BC 12.12 Bike Computer, wired, and read it into a 
> spreadsheet with the Sigma DataCenter program.
> I bought a bunch of them years ago and calibrate them for each bike on 
> the trail I ride.
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Re: [RBW] Happy Valentine’s Day: Triple hearts for you!

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Happy bike hearts to my fellow #RivSisters and #RivBrothers.  
Kate 

On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 5:10:29 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Geez, did I use the word "hearts" enough in that post?? I guess this is 
> the day for it! 🙃
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 1:51:14 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have hearts, too! I think this is the same pic I posted last year but 
>> in my defense I don't have any new heart bikes. Same old hearts! (I also 
>> don't know how to put the pic in the post like Leah so please enjoy this 
>> lovely attached screenshot 😬)
>>
>> This is a good opportunity for my heart story surrounding the custom, I 
>> don't think I ever told it:
>>
>> I've been bessotted with the Riv hearts ever since they showed up on the 
>> first mixtes, specifically the red ones on the Betty Foy. A couple years 
>> ago I saw a Riv custom that had a dropped toptube and used the heart 
>> seatlug, it was blue with a red heart and I said " THAT'S it. Whatever else 
>> my custom becomes it has to have the heart lug and it has to be red." Which 
>> is how I eventually arrived at this sort-of-a-mixte with a Dove Gray frame 
>> and Rad Red (Joe Bell's name) fills. 
>>
>> Happy Valentine's Day!!! ❤️❤️❤️
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:36:08 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It’s time for my annual Valentine post. Hearts all around, from my trio 
>>> in snowy Michigan, see next post:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:43:27 PM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Joe and Leah, 
 Thanks!  I’m glad you liked the photo.  Another detail you may not have 
 been able to see is a snappy little Corgi pin on the hat.  (That’s another 
 story that may show up on IG).

 —Joyce and Snow Buddy (“I’m elting!”)

 On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Joyce, you’re a trooper! I love the photo and I’m glad you pointed out 
> the sign language because I’d have missed that endearing detail. 
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:26 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> 
>
> <7AE73C28-DB3A-49D7-90DA-7CD78FAE8520.jpeg>
> Snow buddies have hearts too.  Love that Clem!  (It’s hard to see, but 
> the gloves are signing “I love you!”). 
>
> —Joyce, from the snowy NW
>
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Happy Valentine’s Day! Every year I send Betty Foy hearts on this 
>> forum, but this year, you get Platy hearts. Coming to you in the 2nd 
>> post, 
>> and hopefully not sideways. 
>>
>>
>>
>> We started the day off with a ride into town for coffee. We dashed 
>> home with breakfast burritos in tow to enjoy with the boys, and not even 
>> my 
>> husband’s flat tire could ruin our fun. 
>>
>> Have a lovely day, everyone. I wish you bike rides and chocolate.
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Velotaxonomy: What are we, anyway?

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Dear RivSister,
I ponder all these things too.  I'm happy in the 'Lone Wolf' department at 
this point but welcome opportunities and always try new things.  My fear is 
that folks will take a look at my beautiful Platy and think she is a Mary 
Poppins boardwalk bike.  As someone mentioned above, it's like showing up 
at school on the first day with the wrong clothes on.  I've been there 
before and it brings me right back to the shame I felt as a third grader in 
a new school.  There is quite a spectrum of bike riders and when you 
intersect at multiple points it is hard to pick where to jump in.  All the 
suggestions so far have been good.  If it is your desire to find friendly 
bike people to share experiences, it will happen.  
I wouldn't lead with the 'killer hill crusher' story though!!! LOL
Long Haul Trunker---Kate 

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 11:21:08 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Are there any supported tours in Michigan during the summer months?  Those 
> can be pretty fun because they attract such a wide variety of riders, and 
> there's lots of downtime spent camping and hanging out as a group.  There 
> will be a small lycra crowd that races ahead each day and brags about how 
> many "additional" miles they added the the itinerary, but most will take 
> their time, stop along the way to take in the scenery and tourist 
> attractions or explore small towns.  And you'll see every type of bike 
> imaginable.  After 5 days, you usually have time to build great commaradrie 
> and settle in with like-minded and like- paced riders.  Somewhere around 
> 300 people is a pretty nice size and gives you the opportunity to meet 
> everyone, but there might be a lottery or competitive registration process 
> to get in.  It's also a really nice way to explore and utilize highways 
> that you otherwise wouldn't for safety concerns.  The big 1,000+ person 
> group tours are a little cumbersome, and can start to elicit angry behavior 
> from motorists due to the obstruction they cause, and the inevitability of 
> having a few bad-behaving riders.
>
>
> Otherwise, I'd almost say don't approach this from a biking standpoint.  
> Identify things you want to see and places you want to go, and find people 
> who you'd enjoy exploring with.  I think most adventurous people ride bikes 
> in some manner and could be willing to use them as a means to an end, even 
> if they're not as obsessive about their bike itself as we are.  Especially 
> now that "bike packing" is a fashionable thing being pushed by sporting 
> goods stores.  I'm always concerned that my enthusiasm for bikes of a 
> certain practicality and aesthetic will come off every bit as boorish as 
> someone who wears full kit and thinks we all need the latest tech.  So my 
> bike "collection" and obsessive  build details are pretty much a private 
> thing that I keep to myself and are for me alone (or this group, 
> obviously).  As much as I'm tempted to want to prostheletize and explain 
> why others are doing it wrong (and they are), it's also fun to just enjoy 
> the moment and the company and embrace that lone wolf iconoclasm once in a 
> while - even when you're hanging with others.  Plus, I'm really bad about 
> mansplaining, even when well intentioned, so Ive learned it's best to keep 
> my mouth shut.
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 7:49:07 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> Signing up for a charity ride might be a way to meet some like minded 
>> riders.  Something like an MS150 ride attracts all sorts of riders (or at 
>> least used to).  Hmmm, maybe not an option in these COVID times, are 
>> charity rides even going on these days?
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 5:38:59 AM UTC-8 David Hays wrote:
>>
>>> Great idea Richard. 
>>> I imagine if you use Strava you can find people who have ridden the same 
>>> stretch of trail you’re on. 
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah, your trail system may hold an answer. I rely heavily on Facebook 
>>> groups for trail conditions & event / ride notifications. I have met many 
>>> other riders using these groups. Find those groups!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 7:39 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You all are funny. And that goes a long way when the topic is rather 
>>> demoralizing. Our RivSister, Pam Murray, has been a wonderful resource on 
>>> the subject. She has been a leader in her community because it didn’t offer 
>>> what she wanted - so she created it. She has a recorded presentation that I 
>>> will post here if she grants permission.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I cleaned and then rewarded myself with a trip to find the 
>>> local trailheads to the 2 rail trails that are famous here. I found both. 
>>> They go through wooded areas and fields and over covered bridges and all 
>>> the way to a historic port city on Lake Michigan. Bikes and horses in 
>>> spring/summer/fall, and snowmobiles in winter. I

Re: [RBW] Re: #PlatyPosing: Post your pics here! (Riv Mixtes welcome, too.)

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Yay Leah,
I love the new Platy and of course the #PlatyPosing we have been waiting 
for.  The colors shine.  I'm not that hard core either.  I purchased a wool 
hat with flaps from RandiJo  but haven't ventured into the cold windy air 
to ride yet.  Catch me around March and I'll be there.  Til then, I am 
working out indoors and walking daily outside.  Keeping up my upper body 
strength for spring posing.  I just received my front bag from Rons.com  
and a back bag from Swift.  I'll see if I can get a weight on my bike for 
anyone interested. I've ridden for 30 years and never weighed my bikes.  I 
never thought it mattered.  I also didn't know better.  Maybe ignorance is 
bliss.  I rode a hybrid bike with generic tires across Iowa and thought it 
was the most fun thing ever.  Someone on the ride commented on my big tires 
at the time and I shook my head and probably said something dumb.  I am 
seriously the 'just ride' person out there who gets on a bike and rides.  
But now I'm curious.  Since I do lift weights.  My husband lifted the bike 
and put in on the Yakima racks on top of his car.  He did it with ease.  I 
have a hitch rack on the back of my Subaru that makes it a bit easier to 
get a bike on.  
Stay tuned.
Kate in Trenton, NJ

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 12:07:27 AM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Demanding passenger, seated in the basket, adds five or so pounds (it 
> would be rude to ask the exact amount) to our total weight. 
>
> She is pleased with this Platy's 'Olive' tones. We'd have to change her 
> name to Persimmon or Pomegranate before considering those nice custom 
> colors. 
>
> A typical weekly ride has about a thousand feet of climbing. Even with her 
> there, the bike rides wonderfully 'light and breezy', I hardly notice she's 
> there, until she looks back at me and whines about our uphill pace. 
>
> Weather has been clear and cool following some welcome rains last month. 
>
> [image: IMG_2554.jpeg]
>
> Cheers, 
>
> Chris
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 5:23:54 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Didn't you move to a place that has snow? For grocery getting by pedal 
>> power on snowy or icy streets, let me wholeheartedly (and I'm serious here) 
>> recommend at British Racing Tricycle. I owned one for 18-24 months before I 
>> sold it because I needed the money. I live in the SW high desert where snow 
>> that stays rarely sticks around, but I did considerable shopping on it when 
>> dry, and during that week or 2 in ~2010 that snow and ice stayed on the 
>> ground, I discovered how liberating a third wheel. With a Baggins Hoss on 
>> the back, it was the ideal grocery getter*, and with 3 wheels, when I saw 
>> ice or snow, I sped up**. If I lived where there was snow on the streets 
>> for more than 1 month per year, I'd buy another one.***
>>
>> In the photo it has a tiny Camper Longflap, but I did use it with a Hoss, 
>> much bigger. Even better: get a custom-made rack / basket for the rear end. 
>> Downside: it tends to roll away from you when loading the rear unless you 
>> set the "parking brake" by cinching a brake lever. Two front brakes: cantis 
>> pulled by left, right pulled a ~1960s Alternburger dual pivot. Both on 
>> front wheel. Bottle dynamo with IQ something headlight.
>>
>> * I used to wheel it through the aisles of the nearby groceries, as I do 
>> my bikes and, nice features: didn't fall over while loading; never had to 
>> worry about flipping down the stand or leaning it against a fragile row of 
>> merchandise; weight didn't affect handling.
>>
>> ** You can also stop dead at stoplights or on hills without unclipping.
>>
>> *** I'd also convert from single wheel drive to a 2-wheel Trykit drive. 
>> This was 1-wheel drive and British, so that riding on the left, pedaling 
>> torque would push you up against the crown of the road and away from the 
>> kerb. In US of A, right side riding, the left drive wheel tended to push 
>> you down the camber into the curb. But I only noticed this while standing 
>> and honking hard up hills, and leaning to the left fixed it. Or perhaps our 
>> roads are flatter than in rainier climates.
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 5:40 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It’s a shame that my roads are covered in a layer of packed snow and 
>>> ice. This bike is begging to be taken to the grocery store! I am not 
>>> exactly hard core; I will probably try this in March. But we’ll see.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Pumpkin Platypus, Perchance?

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Well Hellooo #RivSister Heather,
Whoohooo!!!  I'm in love too.  This is fantastic and just knocks it out of 
the park for me.  Congratulations and keep the smiles for all the miles 
going.  
PSnailed the PlatyPose!
Kate with the Mermaid Platy in Trenton

On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 2:12:43 PM UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Really nice, Heather.  Beautiful paint job and I love the looks of the 
> cantilever brakes.  Very classic.  I've owned bike with V-brakes and know 
> how well they perform, but have never warmed up to them from an aesthetic 
> perspective.  Much prefer the lines of a nice set of cantilevers.
>
> David 
>
> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 9:58:25 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> RivSister Heather, 
>>
>> Yes, yes, your blue Cheviot is welcome on this thread. Put those bikes 
>> side by side, even! I was thinking about your Pumpkin Platy and I 
>> remembered that there was a 2nd person that had a repaint done. He wanted a 
>> root beer color, and got it. It was accidentally seen in the background of 
>> one of Grant’s Blahg photos. That makes 3 Platys that I know of that are 
>> not mermaid or limeolive. See here:
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Laura  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Heather,
>>
>> I am that nut at Bent Creek who called out, *A PLATYPUS* It was a 
>> chance encounter with Heather and Joel that got me to seriously consider a 
>> Rivendell bike. I went from casual browser to serious dreamer! It is great 
>> to see a few pics and recognize beautiful places around town. You did a 
>> great job building up a wonderful bike.
>>
>> I am also inclined to lurk in the background online, especially since I 
>> am Riv-less! Perhaps a Platypus is on my horizon…
>> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 9:46:17 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome to the group and to being a RivSister!  You Pumpkin Bisque bike 
>>> is beautiful and I loved reading your story about it.  I visited Asheville 
>>> perhaps 20 years ago and your pictures reminded me how lovely it is (and 
>>> was), with the Platy setting off the beautiful scenery (or it it the other 
>>> way around?!).
>>>
>>> Miles of smiles (your expression tells it all).
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 8:39:23 PM UTC-5 Heather Hayes wrote:
>>>
 Happy New Year to my fellow Platy people! I know I’m late to the Platy 
 party, but I just wanted to introduce myself and my Pumpkin Platypus. 
 We’re 
 so honored to be here among the esteemed RBW Owners Bunch! I’ve been a 
 lurking wallflower on the forum for a while, and have so enjoyed watching 
 the reveals of all your lovely builds!


 Though I initially had my heart set on a mermaid Platypus when they 
 first went live back in April, the online order form had other ideas. I 
 cracked my knuckles, hovered over the purchase button, then clicked BUY 
 NOW 
 with the authority of a seasoned judge pounding a gavel… but my mermaid 
 selection auto-changed to limeolive, dashing my aqua-colored dreams. There 
 was nary a 50cm mermaid to be found anywhere. No offense to the lovely 
 limeolive, but as a graphic designer, having a color I personally LOVED 
 was 
 very important to me! Reframing crisis as opportunity, I decided to 
 repaint 
 the frame a custom color. Pea soup to pumpkin bisque instead, please!


 After many, many, MANY nail-biting months of waiting, the newly painted 
 frame finally arrived. I carefully unwrapped my brand new Pumpkin Platy 
 with the same awe and enthusiasm of the father in A Christmas Story 
 unpacking his beloved leg lamp. (Though thankfully Rivendells are MUCH 
 sturdier!) ;)


 My Platy mainly enjoys conquering steeper terrain here in the beautiful 
 Blue Ridge Mountains of Asheville, NC, but still loves adventuring near 
 aquatic habitats as well. Here on the forum, the swoopy elegance of this 
 frame has aptly been likened by Leah to that of a prom dress. Set up as a 
 gravel grinder, I wanted this badass bike to sport combat boots underneath 
 the sparkly orange gown. (She’s a gorgeous prom queen, but you're also 
 kind 
 of afraid she'll kick you in the shins!) 


 My sweet RBW blue Cheviot townie now has a fierce and fiery friend by 
 her side, and I love having not one but two Rivendells to *JUST RIDE!* 

 [image: Platy1.jpg][image: Platy2.jpg][image: Platy3.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Creaky Creaks?

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Great info here.I just notice some creaky creaks on my Platy while 
riding last weekend.  It's been too wet and chilly for me to get back out 
and check it and it is waiting for me in my garage for diagnosis.  I will 
check all of the above.   Thanks for all the advice.
Kate in New Jersey

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 7:01:28 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Had a lovely evening ride tonight in blissful silence. It was the seat 
> rails!
>
> Thanks for all the great suggestions, not so obvious solution.
>
> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:13:41 PM UTC-6 spencer robinson wrote:
>
>> I was chasing a creak on my Sam last year, it was driving me nuts, the 
>> creak was on every cycle of the cranks, I pulled the crank arms, checked 
>> the bottom bracket, greased and reinstalled the crank arms, swapped out the 
>> pedals, still creaking. Greased the seatpost.
>> Actually replaced the bottom bracket, creak still there….turned out to be 
>> the rear axle moving ever so slightly in the drop-out,. I cleaned and 
>> reinstalled the quick release and the noise was gone. 
>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 4:28:18 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> As was advised and you may want to double-check, make sure there's 
>>> grease in the seattube. Of course it may just be a new Brooks breaking in 
>>> (if you have one), those saddles used to drive me crazy until I adopted the 
>>> same position as minor rattles in my car: "Yep, that happens."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 11:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Pedals are MKS but already checked and running fine. I have had the 
 shoelace issue before though!

 I did the seatpost (which was tight) and the saddle clamp (which wasn't 
 particularly) so will try & get out for a test ride before my positive 
 COVID test from this morning kicks in!

 On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 1:19:32 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Now that you mention it, yes, I've had pedals cause this sort of 
> elusive cadence-related creaking or, in my case, more of a clicking. 
> In this case it was a pair of ancient Dura Ace SPD pedals, and I 
> solved the problem by regreasing them (simply unscrewed body from 
> bearing core, filled bearing space in body with grease, shoved 
> bearing/spindle core back in and tightened down: Robert 
> Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury's yer uncle! 
>
> One more tangential but wholly not-unrelated incident: I acquired a 
> sudden, rhythmic "click" while pedaling one particular bike, and could 
> not find the source. After long fretting, I tripped over the reason: 
> the aiglet on the slightly too-long lace of my left SPD shoe -- which 
> I had just started wearing in preference to the Velcro shoes I usually 
> wore -- was hitting the dt water bottle cage. 
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 11:48 AM Ryan  wrote: 
> > 
> > or pedals if they're MKS ...had this happen to me twice 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, December 21, 2021 at 12:36:01 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I know, it seems very unlikely, but I've found bars and seatposts 
> to cause this sort of creak after long and anguished searches, and much 
> to 
> my surprise. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 11:27 AM Philip Barrett <
> philipr...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> BB was installed by Rivendell and looks to be typical of their 
> high quality work. 
> >>> 
> >>> You know I thought seatpost, then thought...nah...but actually 
> that does make sense. Hex head in hand now. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

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Hi Laura,
I just wanted to chime in with my experience so far.  I never sat on a 
Rivendell until I unboxed my new 50 Mermaid Platy (PBH 80).  I have Rene 
Herse 48's on it and ride the bike on NJ roads (huge potholes and glass), 
up and down curbs, across grass parks, gravel towpaths, roots and rocky 
paths even chunky hand sized rocky roads.  It handles like a dream and I 
love everything about it.  It's gorgeous, the color is amazing and I can't 
even think of a reason to have another bike at this time.  It's set up with 
a rack in the back for panniers so I can do some light touring but I'm 
mostly on roads.

You have many good suggestions.  Roberta and Leah both mentioned that you 
could pick up a Suzie now and get a Platy later.  Not a bad idea if you 
want to get on one now.  

I had no idea what I was missing all these years.  Rivendell bikes are 
SWEEET.  I'm in love.

Honeymooning in New Jersey...Kate


On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 11:15:47 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Philly Bike Expo 2021

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Hi folks,
I'll be attending the Philly Bike Show on Saturday.  Not sure if I'm biking 
down from Trenton on my Platy but I'll look for y'all.  I will recognize 
Roberta and look for you @ 12ish at the Riv booth. This is where I was 
introduced to Rivs as I picked up a catalog and talked to Will about 5 
years ago.  I went home and devoured the catalog.  Looking forward to the 
show.
See ya soon,
Kate in Trenton

On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 10:44:28 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> I'm planning to go Saturday morning. I'm going to have breakfast at 8:00 
> at Bruno's Germantown Ave/W. Northwestern Ave, then bike down the 
> Wissahickon trail, Kelly Dr. bike path and then over to the convention 
> center (a few blocks on city streets with bike lanes). Fun and scenic ride, 
> no hurry, get there when we get there. Any one want to join me? Let me know.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Thursday, October 28, 2021 at 5:12:51 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Please take lots of pictures. 
>>
>> Seeing the riders and their bikes would be great, pictures of exhibitors' 
>> things too! Rivendell is going to be there and I know they were impressed 
>> by the receptive crowds and embrace of fellow exhibitors so far from home 
>> last time. 
>>
>> I know this year has been hard on many folks at all levels in the bike 
>> business and this was such a good event two years ago, I hope its 
>> restorative vibes are rewarding to all. There was a much more palpable 
>> sense of kinship among cyclists there than I ever noticed or felt at 
>> InterBike.
>>
>> Sad to miss out this year and will be checking out everyones'' postings, 
>> participating vicariously.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 10:52:27 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> I will be there for both your ride (unless it's raining too hard ) and 
>>> at the show both days, including your session. I’m looking forward to 
>>> meeting you and others from the board. Perhaps we could all meet at noon at 
>>> Riv’s booth?  
>>>
>>> Girard street at Kelly drive is overhead, a bridge. 
>>>
>>> I live downtown Philly, so if anyone needs local info, I’m happy to 
>>> help. 
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>> On Wednesday, October 27, 2021 at 1:37:41 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 I'm presenting and leading a ride in Philly.  Please all come and bring 
 your Rivs.  I'm bringing my Betty on the train.  The ride is Sat at 7:30 
 near Girard/Kelly.
 https://phillybikeexpo.com/unracer-roll-to-pbe21/
 The presentation is Sun at 1:30.  
 I hope to see lots of Rivs in Philly.
 Here's the link to the whole weekend.  https://phillybikeexpo.com/



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[RBW] Re: SON Rear Light Brightness?

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I have the Riv installed: 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/dyno-rack-light
on my Platy and I love it.  Super bright and I never have to think about 
charging. On my previous bike I use the Cygo lights which are crazy bright 
almost blinding but I love that they blink and alert everyone to my bike 
presence.
Kate who is lit in Trenton

On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:28:27 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:

> In terms of dealing with rear light routing, I've used this stuff with 
> good aesthetic results when taping it under the top tube:
> Shimano Di2 SM-Ecwc2 E-Tube Cover Set | Jenson USA 
> 
>
> Then I just twirl on one of the seat stays until it reaches it's 
> destination. It works best when all of the connections are happening at the 
> headlight.
>
> Collin in Sactown
>
> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 3:50:40 PM UTC-7 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Sean,
>> I have an older B&M taillight powered by an older SONdelux (before the 
>> Wide-Body) hub, and it's plenty bright, and a Compass/Rene Herse taillight 
>> running from a newer Wide-Body. Also decently bright. I can't imagine SON's 
>> own taillights would be anything but reasonably bright.
>>
>> I too am curious, Mathieu, to know the details of the troubles with 
>> dynamo taillights reported by RBW and your LBS have. I wonder if some of 
>> the troubles have to do with wiring, which, in the absence of 
>> accommodations on or in the frame, must be zip-tied to, handlebar-taped to, 
>> or wrapped around the frame to reach the taillight. It's a mild aesthetic 
>> irritation, for me at least. Gets the job done, though, and my 
>> zip-tie-enabled system has worked every day and in every weather for nine 
>> years.
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:48:32 AM UTC-6 Sean B. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I currently have a SONdelux Wide-Body hub with a SON Edelux II headlight 
>>> and was wanting to get a taillight as well. Does anyone have experience 
>>> with the SON Rear Light? If so, how bright is it and what system are you 
>>> using it on? I cant find many reviews online, so thought I'd ask y'all. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Choco Bars

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I'm loving my Choco Bars on my Platy as well.  Coming from riding drops for 
25 yearsthey are a sweet ride.
Kate in Trenton with her still new Platy Mermaid

On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 3:19:44 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> I hope to do for the Choco bar what Leah did for the Billie bar, create so 
> much adoration for them that Riv sells out their entire stock.
>
> Ok, I don't have the clout to pull that off, but I must say that I do love 
> Choco bars.
>
> I run them 'upside down' on both bikes as I like the position the place my 
> wrists in when holding the bars at or ahead of the brake levers.  Note: 
> although given that the right side Nitto logo is always correctly oriented 
> regardless of which way the bars are mounted, can they really be upside 
> down?  I think not.
>
> I just switched my Sam Hillborne over to Choco bars with a Fillet Face 
> Plater stem, replacing the Albatross bars and Tallux stem.  Needed the new 
> stem in order to get the new bars up at the same height as the Albas.
>
> [image: IMG_2931 copy.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_2933 copy.jpeg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

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I'm not sure why I even clicked on this thread but I did and when I saw  
Specialized Sequoias mentioned, it caught my eye.  I have one and it's been 
my main bike since 2004.  Now I am the proud owner of a Riv Platypus and 
basically went from 23mm tires to 48mm tires.  I don't know if I can ever 
get on that  Specialized Sequoia ever again.  I looked into maybe 
increasing the tire size but it can only squeeze a 28mm.  I love the triple 
as I ride hills in North Jersey and took the bike on many hotel tours over 
the years.  It was advertised as a 'Sport Tourer' and had a rise in the 
stem.  I rode it around the parking lot once and bought the bike.  
I've never seen another  Specialized Sequoia. 
Good luck with your search.  
Kate from Trenton who may never need another bike again after happily 
riding her new Riv Platy

On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-4 Craig Montgomery wrote:

> Damn bikes are like leeches aren't they? 
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:56:22 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Craig, if you're asking yourself whether you should sell it, I think 
>> you'll regret it, just because you have so much history with it.(Why I 
>> can't part with my old PX-10 and 1993 X0-1...plus 3 Rivendells) .That is a 
>> beauty! So understated and elegant! The Gentleman moniker is very apt. Have 
>> another think about letting go of that...with all due respect to the 
>> original poster😊
>>
>> Ryan in Winnipeg, MB
>>
>> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 2:21:46 PM UTC-5 Craig Montgomery 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I actually have one that might interest you Bubba. An '86 Mercian I've 
>>> had almost 2 decades. 59cm (23 1/2"). 531C. "Sport Touring". 700x32mm BUT 
>>> my favorite iteration is as a 650Bx38 All Roader. Got these wheels for sale 
>>> also but they may be more than you want to invest (Phil Wood). I have set 
>>> it up Fixed, with a Sturmey Archer 4 speed, 700x32 Light Tourer, and 
>>> 650Bx38 All Road. Damn I'm convincing myself not to sell it. 
>>> Here it is fixed: 
>>>  [image: monto1.jpg]
>>> Gentleman's Tourer (moteling it):
>>> [image: Mercian and Barbed Wire.jpg]
>>> As a 650B with PariMoto 38's
>>> [image: Mercian 650B by Falls.jpg]
>>> [image: Mt. Hopkins from Elephant Head Road Cropped.jpg]
>>>
>>> If this pushes a button email me. 
>>>
>>> Craig way too many frames and projects in Tucson
>>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:45:29 AM UTC-7 Yankeebird wrote:
>>>
 I would like a Roadini, but it's going to be a while, and I'm going 
 through some money constraints right now, and I don't mind fixing up 
 something else in the interim. I have a Cheviot right now, and it's my 
 primary main bike for everything. I also have a Surly CC that I built up 
 with an Alfine IGH 8 and Albatross bars, but I keep that at Mom's so when 
 my bro and I visit we have a bike to bang around on to blow off steam.

 I would really like a decent smooth steel frame that will take at least 
 a 32-38 tire, and I can build up either with another IGH/albatross or a 
 cassette and drop bars depending on my whims. Something zippier than my 
 Cheviot but not a straight up triathlon bike. 

 I'd like to get my hands on a '86 Schwinn Passage (my brother has this 
 bike and it's an incredible) or an early/mid 80's Trek 720. But these 
 things are going for PREMIUM money, almost ridiculous. I value them as 
 $200-300 bikes, but they are listed at $800+ and it boggles my mind. 

 Any other comparable frames to the above two I mentioned that I should 
 be looking at? What about Motobecanes? Do they have standard sizing for 
 components or am I going to be banging my head against the wall finding 
 French sized parts? 

 Biking is something I enjoy, and I can do basic bike MX and can learn 
 the stuff I don't know, but I am not deep in the weeds of dorkdom when it 
 comes to bikes. I have other much deeper passions. I probably won't build 
 a 
 wheel, but I can replace a BB. I know what I like and what I want when I 
 see it, if I'm pointed in the correct direction by those who know. Hence 
 this query. 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Doctor Who Cycled Around the World

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I love a good cockamamie idea that takes shape and becomes more than one 
ever thought it would.  I am off to locate the blog and book now.
Kate (who read an article at 3AM in the middle of her night shift about 
riding across Iowa and thought that was a good idea and then went and 
bought a hybrid bike and went and rode the 500 miles with no training or 
prep...wearing mens bike shorts that she added kotex pads to because 500 
miles is a lot of miles in one week)!!!

On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 10:37:18 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> Seeing the tropical disease problem in Africa sounds credible.  When I saw 
> him, he'd been down Africa & up South America.  Plenty of time to develop 
> an idea.  He had a fairly polished presentation so he may have been 
> drumming up interest in his project as he went.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 5:55:48 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> He meets up in the pub six years later, "Well boys, I was almost eaten by 
>> an alligator and shot by rebels, but I did it."
>>
>> "We were kidding, mate." 
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 5:48:05 PM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> He had to leave, his drunken mates said "I double dog dare you" or some 
>>> equivalent in London-ish.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 5:37:06 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Most people who have a harebrained idea in a pub with their buddies 
 after 6 pints sober up the next day and decide it's a ridiculous idea! 
 🍻🍻🍻🤣



 On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 5:31:32 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I think it’s fun to discuss. Carry on, people!
>
> I also got the impression Stephen (whose name I misspelled in the 
> original post, argh) just DID it. I haven’t purchased the book yet, but I 
> listened to his story on the podcast and he seemed to have just come to 
> the 
> conclusion that cycling around the world was something he should do. Of 
> course this was after his 6th pint. In a pub. With his buddies. 🤣
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 14, 2021, at 5:28 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I suspect you're both probably right, you've heard the gentleman 
> speak over the years whereas his journey is new to me. I just read the 
> Prolologue again and got the same impression as before, he just NEEDED to 
> go. This is how this section ends: 
>
>
> [At times, I wondered why leaving home felt like such an obvious 
> decision at all. Now, I think I was simply longing for a less certain 
> future. And uncertainty, whether in life or bike rides, is the heart and 
> soul of any journey.]
>
> Anyway, at this point my interest and excitement about what this is 
> all about iis bordering on a distraction from Leah's reasons for the 
> thread 
> so I'll stop my ruminating. It's a good book! Go read it! 
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 4:50:33 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> What I got from the blog was that he was an ER doctor.  He didn't 
>> start specializing in tropical diseases until he actually was on the 
>> tour.
>> He got some whiff of it in Africa, but it was the trip up from 
>> Indonesia-Maylaysia-India that rubbed his nose in it.
>> It's been 5 years since I read the blog - somebody read the book and 
>> tell me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> At the start, he was feeling burned out at work, was in a pub with 
>> his mates, and after a couple of pints decided to bike around the world.
>> He went back to the hospital, took a leave of absence, got a bike, 
>> made sure his mother was being cared for, and headed out into Europe.
>> So I think the answer was "Because he said he was going to, that 
>> evening at the pub."
>>
>> NOW he's a doctor specializing in tropical diseases, after actually 
>> seeing how medicine worked in some of the places he biked through.  But 
>> I 
>> do not believe he was when he started.
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Re: [RBW] Re: #PlatyPosing: Post your pics here! (Riv Mixtes welcome, too.)

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This is a delightful addition to the 'fun' news for today.  Thank you 
#RivSisters.  We are out there Riding and PlatyPosing!  
Kate
a proud PlatyPoser from Trenton, NJ

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 4:09:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The beagle is too much cuteness. Too much! 🙂❤️
>
> #RivSisters
> #RivDoggos
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 12:55:53 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Precious! And the beagle sitting at perfect attention, bravo, Joyce. I am 
>> thoroughly delighted! ♥️♥️♥️
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 17, 2021, at 11:50 AM, JAS  wrote:
>>
>> PlatyPose throw-down accepted.  Mermaid or sea-foam green or teal:  
>> these are my favorite colors when i can't have blue!
>>
>> #RivSisters,
>> Joyce
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Share More Riv Riding Pics

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Andy, 
Looks like a perfect summer GAP ride getting out to enjoy the season.  I 
notice your extra bottle cage underneath.  I just tried mine on the Mermaid 
Platy and it interferes with the cables running under the bottom tube.  Do 
I need a different cage or some special spacers?  I got the cage from Riv 
when I got the bike a few weeks ago. 
Still dreaming of the GAP ride
Kate in Trenton


On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 4:28:05 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Jason, love your setups. And just an FYI - beer is definitely an errand, 
> and a mission critical one at that!
>
> On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 15:28:36 UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Here's one of each of my bikes (okay, there is a fourth, my mountain 
>> bike, but I haven't ridden it lately and it is not at all Riv-inspired) 
>> from the past week doing what each of them does best!
>>
>> Sam Hillborne out on an adventure
>> Bombadil doing some heavy lifting
>> Raleigh Twenty running errands (okay picking up beer)
>>
>> On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 08:14:12 UTC-7 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yesterday we got out before the triple digit temps. We hit up two local 
>>> parks, had a blast on the swings, kicked a ball all over the park and ate 
>>> snacks in the shade of some huge cedars! (Don’t worry, we didn’t leave the 
>>> hat behind)
>>> [image: 51433055-0ED2-48E4-965E-A2CEF3F40ED3_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 7:18:12 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 I'm away from my bikes tending to family health issues, really wanting 
 for a nice long ride like this. This was a weekend trip on my Rambouillet 
 down the Great Allegheny Passage to Cumberland, MD with a Sunday 
 night Amtrak shuttle home. 
 [image: 3C9CE6DE-8E63-4881-A2AD-0FD1D586328F_1_105_c.jpeg]
 Great Allegheny Passage along the Youghiogheny River between 
 Connellsville, PA and Ohiopyle State Park, PA.
 [image: 78008998-5FC2-40A6-9452-3E31F6BA0EA6_1_105_c.jpeg]Great 
 Allegheny Passage, Salisbury Viaduct over the Casselman River and Flight 
 93 
 Highway, outside of Meyersdale, PA. 
 [image: B798B94B-B8D6-4B51-A89E-AB63ECF2A4B3_1_105_c.jpeg]
 Great Allegheny Passage along the Casselman River between Markleton, PA 
 and Casselman, PA. Neither a rocker nor a mod, but a ton up.
 [image: IMG_7452.jpeg]
 Early morning walk in AR with Ike the Lab pup. Looking south from a 
 junction to a streetlight. Ghostly little pink bike in driveway to the 
 right.[image: 356C3A49-DC42-4684-8064-6E8DB1AA2C03_1_201_a.jpg]
 Ike the traveling pup. Not a bike but gets me out three times a day. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 (reporting from Hot Springs National Park)



 On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-5 weste...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> This one is from May -- on the Katy Trail in Missouri. The Radical 
> Design Cyclone trailer makes a great kickstand for my 68cm Toyo Atlantis. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-5 bicycler...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I got to be the shirtless guy taking a picture of his bike in the 
>> River today. 
>> Found a new to me section of the American River that’s just deep 
>> enough to float and just shallow enough not to drown. Went full Huck 
>> Finn, 
>> carrying my bike through some sections downstream before getting lost 
>> and 
>> having to double back. 
>> This was the turnaround of a fairly spirited ride on a warm day, so 
>> the swim was much appreciated. 
>> -Addison, 
>> Shirtless in Sacramento 
>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:00:02 AM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Patrick. 
>>> I also miss Deacon Jones posts and pictures. He certainly has a 
>>> significant skill in capturing stunning pics riding in the Pikes Peak 
>>> area.
>>>
>>> He still has a website I think under Deacon Patrick. A search should 
>>> pop it up.
>>>
>>> Cool pics and historical perspective Philip!
>>>
>>> I've ridden up and down Swiss Avenue many times and always enjoy it.
>>>
>>> Also your Platypus looks terrific!
>>>
>>> Yeah, the heat and humidity. It does get to me also.
>>>
>>> A break this week with slightly cooler temps...thank the Lord.
>>> I measured 1.1 inches of rain yesterday and last night.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus New Bike Day

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Leah's Platy lift it is for sure!!!  #Platyposing might be my new hash 
tag!!!
It was also Leah's enthusiasm that I saw and felt from her photos and 
description of her bike and then chatting with her that gave me the 
emotional lift to 100% go through with the whole thing.  Thank you Leah!
Kate (just over here in Trenton, Platyposing with my bike)

On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 11:21:09 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> It looks WONDERFUL.  And, who need a gym membership when you have a Platy 
> to lift!
>
> The Riv ride is like no other.  The bike that the my Riv replaced was very 
> similar to the nice bike you (used to) ride that your Riv replaced.  .  
> But, I bet you can tell the difference with a more upright ride.   It's eye 
> opening, shoulder opening, chest opening, neck opening.  After the love 
> you've given all those years, you deserve this extra love for yourself.  
> And, you got the best.
>
> I wish you so many fantastic happy miles.  
>
> Congratulations!!! I hope it was worth the wait many time over for you. (I 
> know it is!).
>
> Roberta
>
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 9:26:41 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_5291.jpg]
>> Well here she isThe Beautiful Mermaid, my new Platy.  I'm brand new 
>> to Rivendell.  I met Will a few years ago at the Philly Bike Expo and the 
>> seed was planted.  I've been riding for 30 plus years and only had 3 off 
>> the shelf bikes that were probably not the best fit but whatever.I 
>> still loved riding and what the bike meant to me as far as taking me places 
>> and seeing the world in a different way.  The benefits to my emotional 
>> health were immeasurable.  I've been a nurse for 40 years and the last 30 
>> in a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit.  The fresh air and sunshine and wind in 
>> my face elevated my vibe.   I got the full Riv experience and worked with 
>> Vince on the parts selection. I took it out for a test ride today and it is 
>> smooth baby smoth.  I have some tweaking to do.  My front brakes 
>> are hitting the light arm so I have to figure that out.  Seems like I need 
>> a higher arm.  I'll post more pics later with all the details of my 
>> selections.  You have no idea how exciting this is.  I had to talk myself 
>> into believing that I was worthy of spending this much money on a bike and 
>> getting a bike made  for me.  Really exciting  I feel like a new kid.  
>> I can't stop looking at it.  Leah said this would happen.  She caught 
>> herself walking by her bike parked in it's place and just gazed at it.  I'm 
>> doing the same thing.  It's a sexy machine with gorgeous lines.  I'm also 
>> excited to have #rivsisters and #rivbrothers.  
>> Smiling from ear to ear here in Trenton, NJ
>> 50 Mermaid Platypus
>> Kate
>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice, Joyce.  Enjoy.  Glad it was cool enough to warrant a jacket 
>>> given what you experience a few weeks ago.  I was just up from So Cal 
>>> visiting our son on the Kitsap peninsula beginning of month.  Just missed 
>>> the extreme heat ourselves.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 1:15:51 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Thank you for the kind comments about my new Platy!  I took it on a 
 10-mile ride through mid-Whidbey Island farmland yesterday (Ebey's 
 Prairie) 
 and it was pure joy.  What fun to make it up a hill I'd have been walking 
 had I been riding the Clem.  I'll put some photos on IG for you, but I'll 
 add one here as a teaser.  

 Leah, you'll probably want my jacket, but I'm sure it will be too big 
 for you!

 [image: IMG_9876.jpg].  I As far as the fit goes, I still need to do 
 some work on saddle position/tilt and try another long ride.  I have the 
 saddle moved all the way back and yet it feels like my knees are too far 
 forward.  On the accessory list I'm adding a new water bottle that matches 
 better, bell, and rear rack.

 Roberta, does your Platypus ride much different than the AHH?

 #RivSisters,
 Joyce

 On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:

> Joyce,
>
> This was a long time coming.I think your comments "svelte, agile 
> and beautiful" describes it well.   And with your wide tires, I bet you 
> don't feel a pothole.  The honey saddle and grips give it such a soft 
> edge--I love it.  And, metal fenders!  i wasn't going to fender mine, but 
> changed my mind.  I got SKS, but those metal ones you have are so much 
> nicer looking.  A very classy look!
>
> I LOVE my AHHilsen, but end up pulling my Platy for more rides.  I 
> think it's the feeling of freedom of the mixte design.  Your other bike 
> is 
> a Clem L, right, so you already know the joys of not worrying when you 
> need 
> to jump off bike quickly.
>
> Many happy miles to you!
>
> Roberta
> On Wednes

[RBW] Re: Being Precious About Your Favorite Bike

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Hi Leah,
My 2 cents...take the Platy.  You love her and she is your ride.  Meant to 
be ridden and enjoyed and have all the memories.  That's why you have her.  
You have an emotional attachment to every mile with her.  Bring along what 
makes you happy.
As far as traveling with your bike.  I've done it for 30 years with bikes 
on top of my car.  I cover my seats well for all kinds of crazy weather and 
we take in the bikes EVERY single night.  NO MATTER WHAT.  Even if we 
arrive late and are dead tired.  EVERY MOTEL/HOTEL.  I even ride cheap 
bikes but they are my ride and super important to me and I don't want to 
leave them on a car attracting attention.  Thieves will go as far as 
removing your racks to take bikes.  It's happened to a friend.  
Finally...we look forward to all the Platy adventure photos that you will 
share!!!
Love, Kate
50 mermaid platy still in the build stage by RIV.  
Trenton, NJ

On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 5:14:45 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Precious versus valued.
>
> "Precious" limits your use of the bike you love, valuing it acknowledges 
> how well it serves you now and for your future riding. 
>
> I don't ride my Rambouillet to work too often because the trade off of 
> thirteen to fifteen hours of exposure in a rack (in a garage) exceeds my 
> peace of mind for the 20-30 minutes of riding there or home after provides. 
> My Surly commuter eases my mind and is drab rack bait despite the Brooks 
> saddle and SON hub, both of which have been through the apocalypse from a 
> precious bike perspective. Beausage versus beausavage. 
>
> I have thought about this quandary when I see people with their cars or 
> trucks (which may be worse) that are over the line of too fancy to use in 
> the life they live. Sort of relates to shoes. You buy them to wear and if 
> you do wear them, they will meet the world where your feet are. Even shoes 
> can be too precious. We got a new car in December and it has been the 
> dependable 
> muddy dog hauler, our trusty foul weather mobility and all other things 
> vehicles have to be if used realistically and judiciously (I commute by 
> bike year round). If it were precious the pup would have gone back where he 
> came from. He rode home in the car from this episode at the dog park. 
>  He's ours and so is the 
> car. They met when it was three days new and he was nine weeks old. Both 
> are quite valued and occasionally get dirty.
>
> If you can relate to "valued" and all that it imparts to the relationship 
> you have with your bike, you'll take it with you. You will take steps not 
> to diminish it with risks of theft or pointless damage. You'll do your best 
> and have it with you for time and riding that would be lessened by not 
> having your Platy along. That SON hub is better off than many non-dyno hubs 
> regarding weather and slop exposure. Just don't leave them out where they 
> present the opportunity for theft or temptation that creates crime where it 
> otherwise isn't. Don't leave crumbs and you'll not have mice. I've had the 
> conversation with hotel folks who objected to me taking my bike into my 
> room and ended it by quoting their sign in the parking lot "Not responsible 
> for articles left in your vehicle". I should have a photo album of all the 
> hotel, motel, B&B rooms (and that box with a door at a VFW in Haysi, VA) 
> that I've taken my bike into for the night and photographed. I always had 
> it in the morning. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 2:08:31 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Every summer I leave for five weeks or so. I drive across the country to 
>> our home states and spend that time with our families. Our kids get out of 
>> the desert and get to have lake life and grandma time and run wild. I have 
>> a Saris Freedom 4 bike rack, and I can/might take my Clem, my Platypus and 
>> the boys’ Clems. We get a lot of riding done up North, and with temps 110 
>> in Vegas in the summer, I relish that riding time. Hassle though it is, 
>> I’ll bring our Rivendells. Four of them. 🙄
>>
>> But which ones? 
>>
>> I can remember last year as we journeyed out of Yellowstone, we thought 
>> it would be great to take the Beartooth Highway out of the park. One moment 
>> we were enjoying views from the top of the world and the next, we were in a 
>> June snowstorm that barely allowed visibility 20 feet in front of us. I 
>> worried for my dyno hub, and also that we’d be rear-ended. When we got to 
>> Billings, those poor bikes suffered through the most torrential downpour I 
>> can ever remember driving through. My son’s Brooks B17 Select still bears 
>> the scars (yes, it had a Randi Jo saddle cover). And then there’s the theft 
>> risk (we u lock them to the rack overnight on our drive), and maybe it’s 
>> higher in the Bicycle Shortage of 2020 and 2021. Oh, and the risk of being 
>> knocked over by exuberant little nieces and 

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

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Andy,
My thoughts exactly.  A hotel for 2 nights and explore the bike and brew 
spots in the area.  I love the museums there as well.  
Kate

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 7:24:06 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> if starting from Pittsburgh late, I'd really put a plug  for getting 
> yourself a better go of the first day by getting a room at a hotel in 
> downtown (some really cool boutique offerings these days: Distrikt, The 
> Industrialist, etc.) and have a nice dinner before setting out. Hotels in 
> Homestead too, food's a bit chain-oriented in the area and it's ten miles 
> down the path. 
>
> If camping, the first place I'd recommend is the Dravo Campsite next to 
> the cemetery on the Youghigheny River and is 40 miles from the Point.   It 
> is not accessible to cars which is a good thing in my mind as you depart 
> the urban western end of the GAP. Less formal than others a bit farther 
> along but provides opportunity to set up camp as you are comfortable, given 
> arrangement of other campers. 
>
> Here is a site on the lower portion, maybe 200 yards off the trail, closer 
> to the river (right in the image):
> [image: 31E8CA4F-AAD6-4219-A19A-42252B9A471D_1_105_c.jpeg]
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 7:50:16 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Kate 
>>
>> I believe the only direct PHL-PIT Amtrak train is the #43 Pennsylvanian 
>> with dep/arr times of 1242 to 1959.   The Capitol Limited would be PHL to 
>> DC on NE Regional, changing to the Capitol for DC to PIT.  They show 1445 
>> dep PHL and 2358 PIT arrival.   Pittsburgh is roughly the mid point of the 
>> DC to Chicago on the Capital.  Amtrak shows the Pennsylvanian allows 
>> checked bicycle service meaning you need to box the bike.  The Capitol and 
>> NE Regional trains 65, 66, 67 have carry on bicycle service which does not 
>> require a box (Amtrak does a good business between Cumberland and DC/PIT 
>> with the carry on for people riding the Western Maryland RR Trail).   
>>
>> The Pennsylvanian 2000 arrival would permit riding to the GAP in 
>> McKeesport via the trails to Hot > Mckeesport RR trail and beyond to a trail campsite, probably by .  Or 
>> overnight in hotel in Pittsburgh or Homestead (on the trial).  The Capitol 
>> 2358 arrival is challenging, although can head out to the trail via the 
>> same route.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 12:37:39 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> Amtrak has limited trains and routes, don't remember the details a year 
>>> later.  I do know that there was no availability to travel along the 
>>> northeast corridor.  New Jersey Transit is the only way we can take bikes 
>>> on the train.  Just did a ride last weekend allowing us to access North 
>>> Jersey trails and ride out the coast. Philly to Pittsburgh had options.  
>>> Check Amtrak site for details.
>>> I am definitely going to the Philly Bike Expo this year.  Hey.I'll 
>>> probably be riding there and bring my brand spanking new Platypus up to the 
>>> Riv booth for show and tell!!!
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 9:22:35 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 Do it Kate!

 Love the multi-mode (intermode if by train and bike?) travel to and 
 from a big multi day bike and camp. Does Amtrak have bike capacity other 
 than as luggage to/from Philadelphia? It'd be sweet if so. 

 Maybe I could pull together a carless plan for the Philly Bike Expo in 
 November from home. The RBW newsletter said they'll be going again. I 
 think 
 everyone's attention really surprised them and they realized that 
 appreciation 
 of their perspective isn't limited to the west coast, despite this 
 group and the calls they take from around the country. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I 
> had planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's not 
> going to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from 
> Trenton, NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our 
> bikes 
> and then Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our bikes 
> to the start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train 
> back 
> to Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
> eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's great advice Paul. Still finalizing all the details of our 
>> trip and we were going to take the MARC out to Harpers Ferry and camp 
>> and 
>> bike home one of these Fridays as a test run for mileage. 
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Andy,
Amtrak has limited trains and routes, don't remember the details a year 
later.  I do know that there was no availability to travel along the 
northeast corridor.  New Jersey Transit is the only way we can take bikes 
on the train.  Just did a ride last weekend allowing us to access North 
Jersey trails and ride out the coast. Philly to Pittsburgh had options.  
Check Amtrak site for details.
I am definitely going to the Philly Bike Expo this year.  Hey.I'll 
probably be riding there and bring my brand spanking new Platypus up to the 
Riv booth for show and tell!!!
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 9:22:35 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Do it Kate!
>
> Love the multi-mode (intermode if by train and bike?) travel to and from a 
> big multi day bike and camp. Does Amtrak have bike capacity other than as 
> luggage to/from Philadelphia? It'd be sweet if so. 
>
> Maybe I could pull together a carless plan for the Philly Bike Expo in 
> November from home. The RBW newsletter said they'll be going again. I think 
> everyone's attention really surprised them and they realized that 
> appreciation 
> of their perspective isn't limited to the west coast, despite this group 
> and the calls they take from around the country. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 4:21:59 PM UTC-4 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I had 
>> planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's not going 
>> to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from Trenton, 
>> NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our bikes and then 
>> Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our bikes to the 
>> start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train back to 
>> Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
>> eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> That's great advice Paul. Still finalizing all the details of our trip 
>>> and we were going to take the MARC out to Harpers Ferry and camp and bike 
>>> home one of these Fridays as a test run for mileage. 
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>>
 Pat in DC, You are very likely younger than I am, (closing in on 75 
 years,) but my travel companion for this trip is also younger by a decade 
 and a much stronger rider than I. We both were glad we settled on 50 miles 
 a day and tried our best to schedule the camps accordingly. After more 
 than 
 a decade of doing rail trail multi-day trips, three things I have found 
 feels proper for me: 
 1. A 5-minute break every 10 miles or so. Mainly to relive the butt and 
 resupply the tank with a small snack. (I rarely stop for a "real" lunch 
 unless it is some kind of coffee shop stop.)
 2. 50 miles a day, riding loaded seems to prevent being too weary and 
 making the trip a chore. A little time in camp, even if just a relaxed 
 meal 
 preparation is nice too. 
 3. No matter how fast I can ride if I have too, like making up lost 
 time, beating an incoming storm, etc., It's hard and unpleasant for me to 
 sustain 12 - 14 mph all day. I seem to always fall back to 10 mph, unless 
 riding surfaces, etc. are perfectly smooth and level. 
 However, your schedule is your schedule and if it is inflexible, you 
 may not have a choice. Depending on your exact start and finish locations, 
 the GAPCO is pretty close to 350 miles (50 miles x 7 days). 

 Paul Germain
 Midlothian, Va.

 On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Woops yeah 5 days. I figure 65 or so miles a day is a good 6-7 hours 
> of riding. Seems like it would leave some time to explore. I'm also not 
> sure how capable my friend and I are of doing that sort of mileage but 
> time 
> will tell.
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:38:52 PM UTC-4 marshmonster wrote:
>
>> Pat, you mean 5 days? It's doable but you won't have much time to 
>> stop and check out some of the small towns, take a dip in the Potomac, 
>> ride 
>> around Antietem, etc. C&O was my first bikepacking trip. My only regret 
>> is 
>> not giving it more time, I kind of plowed through it in 3 days.
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC 
>>> to Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike 
>>> camping trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 
>>> days. We 
>>> live in DC.
>>>
>>> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the 
>>> way so now we are shooting for mid

[RBW] Re: My recent "CO-GAP" 7-day trip

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for sharing your awesome pics of your ride.  My husband and I had 
planned on this ride last year but the world shut down.  Now it's not going 
to happen for me for a bit.  We had a car free trip planned from Trenton, 
NJ where we were going to take NJ transit to Philly with our bikes and then 
Amtrak from 30th street station out to Pittsburgh with our bikes to the 
start.  Bike and camp all the way to DC and then take the train back to 
Philly and on home to Trenton.  No car.  We will make it happen 
eventually.  Maybe with my new Platypus!!!
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:58:13 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's great advice Paul. Still finalizing all the details of our trip and 
> we were going to take the MARC out to Harpers Ferry and camp and bike home 
> one of these Fridays as a test run for mileage. 
>
> Pat
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 3:56:37 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> Pat in DC, You are very likely younger than I am, (closing in on 75 
>> years,) but my travel companion for this trip is also younger by a decade 
>> and a much stronger rider than I. We both were glad we settled on 50 miles 
>> a day and tried our best to schedule the camps accordingly. After more than 
>> a decade of doing rail trail multi-day trips, three things I have found 
>> feels proper for me: 
>> 1. A 5-minute break every 10 miles or so. Mainly to relive the butt and 
>> resupply the tank with a small snack. (I rarely stop for a "real" lunch 
>> unless it is some kind of coffee shop stop.)
>> 2. 50 miles a day, riding loaded seems to prevent being too weary and 
>> making the trip a chore. A little time in camp, even if just a relaxed meal 
>> preparation is nice too. 
>> 3. No matter how fast I can ride if I have too, like making up lost time, 
>> beating an incoming storm, etc., It's hard and unpleasant for me to sustain 
>> 12 - 14 mph all day. I seem to always fall back to 10 mph, unless riding 
>> surfaces, etc. are perfectly smooth and level. 
>> However, your schedule is your schedule and if it is inflexible, you may 
>> not have a choice. Depending on your exact start and finish locations, the 
>> GAPCO is pretty close to 350 miles (50 miles x 7 days). 
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:55:21 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Woops yeah 5 days. I figure 65 or so miles a day is a good 6-7 hours of 
>>> riding. Seems like it would leave some time to explore. I'm also not sure 
>>> how capable my friend and I are of doing that sort of mileage but time will 
>>> tell.
>>>
>>> Pat in DC
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:38:52 PM UTC-4 marshmonster wrote:
>>>
 Pat, you mean 5 days? It's doable but you won't have much time to stop 
 and check out some of the small towns, take a dip in the Potomac, ride 
 around Antietem, etc. C&O was my first bikepacking trip. My only regret is 
 not giving it more time, I kind of plowed through it in 3 days.

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:04:11 AM UTC-5 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice pics Paul thanks for sharing. A friend and I are doing the DC to 
> Pitt direction later this year. I've only ever done overnight bike 
> camping 
> trips and he's never even done that. Hoping to do it in 50 days. We live 
> in 
> DC.
>
> Originally had this planned for end of August, but life got in the way 
> so now we are shooting for mid October. Gonna need some extra layers for 
> sure. Do you know when everything starts to shut down for the season?
>
> Pat in DC
>
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:41:07 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I  really enjoy seeing all the variations of folks' trips and 
>> iterations of outfitting on this route. I'm fortunate to be a twenty 
>> minute 
>> bike ride from the Pittsburgh end and frequent the GAP portions and 
>> points 
>> along that way that are fun detours and sightseeing.
>>
>>  I started riding on the GAP with my Rambouillet which doesn't have a 
>> load capacity for self supported travel but as a result I've refined my 
>> options for refreshments, meals and accommodations. My favorites are two 
>> day rides from home, either out to Ohiopyle for the night and back or to 
>> Cumberland with a overnighting in Ohiopyle and Amtrak home from 
>> Cumberland 
>> at 7pm. It is the use I patterned my custom bike to support. 
>>
>> Last year I rode several centuries out and back on the GAP to take 
>> advantage of the crowd thinning weather, my familiar trailside resources 
>> and the relatively level grades. 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 12:12:57 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> While I have done unsupported multi-day trip from Pittsburgh to DC 
>>> (GAPCO) a number of times, this time I accompanied friend, Dan on his 
>>> 7-day 
>>> trip from east-

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

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I may not have my Platy bike yet but I am the proud recipient of a PLATYPUS 
Pin from Leah my new #rivsister.
The STOKE is real.
Kate-super stoked in Trenton, NJ

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 2:05:58 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Bike looks great Roberta! Those Billies definitely look sharp. Maybe you 
> can organize another ride this year: a Platypus Parade. And maybe I'll be 
> able to make it this time.
>
> Bones
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Roberta,
>> What a beautiful build!  I love the elegant and understated color choices 
>> with the occasional color splash (blue light for example).  Someday we’ll 
>> have to find a way to ride our mermaid Platys together.
>>
>> #RivSisters,
>> Joyce
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:03:09 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see 
>>> chain marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely 
>>> paintwork if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even 
>>> when urban riding is to expected.
>>>
>>> Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
>>> profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
>>> inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
 Have fun.

 Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 
 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
 is something I never thought about but now I am. 
 Kate-Trenton, NJ
 my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
 been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 

 On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine 
> and it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have 
> a 
> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape 
> and 
> did that on a prior bike.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all 
>> around. Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
>>> work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
>>> details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
>>> Peacock Platy. 
>>>
>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can 
>>> hardly wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. 
>>> Roberta and I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all 
>>> our 
>>> words out without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me 
>>> hours 
>>> of footage this weekend, lol!
>>>
>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>>
>>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
>>> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
>>> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  
>>> She 
>>> "gets" me. 
>>>
>>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
>>> two 
>>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the 
>>> fenders, 
>>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie. 
>>>  
>>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 - Platyphernalia -

 Someone at RBW right now: 

 "Do we sell platypus pins? 
 SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Platyphernalia.
>
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  
> wrote:
>
> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>>>

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

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Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  Have 
fun.

Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 3 
bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This is 
something I never thought about but now I am. 
Kate-Trenton, NJ
my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have been 
selectedwent with chaco and long stem 

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and it 
> is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a clear 
> protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think would 
> be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and did 
> that on a prior bike.
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful work, 
>>> don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special details 
>>> that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy Peacock 
>>> Platy. 
>>>
>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta and 
>>> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
>>> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of footage 
>>> this weekend, lol!
>>>
>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more endearing 
>>> watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your travails. Like 
>>> Pam Murray!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>>
>>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle cover.  
>>> Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE (with my 
>>> original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  She "gets" me. 
>>>
>>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have two 
>>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
>>> rack, and front chain ring/trouser guard combo Handlebar is Billie.  
>>> Rainbow spoke nipple arrangement (zoom in on front rim).  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 9:23:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 - Platyphernalia -

 Someone at RBW right now: 

 "Do we sell platypus pins? 
 SOMEBODY ORDER PLATYPUS PINS!" 

 On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:18:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Platyphernalia.
>
>
> On May 24, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> Oooh I love that pin. The world of platypii paraphernalia is one I 
> wasn't previously aware of, but clearly thriving. 
>
> And sure, it might be a coincidence. But all I know is I've been 
> acutely aware the Billie has been in stock for a few weeks now and had 
> been 
> idly considering whether I should jump on the opportunity to buy it, when 
> you got one and seemingly moments later it was out of stock.  Maybe there 
> was only two or three left at that time!  Maybe it's Leah-hype! 
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 5:20 PM Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> You guys are funny. It’s probably a coincidence. 
>>
>> But it is fun to discuss Things I’m Loving Right Now, and right 
>> now…it’s PlatyPins! Best showcased on bike bags. #RivSisters, be 
>> checking 
>> your mailboxes this week!
>>
> 
>>
>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On May 24, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> - Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, 
>> now with a backlog of interest. NO SURPRISE HERE -
>>
>> There needs to be an automatic restock order at Riv when Leah buys 
>> something. "Hey guys, Leah just ordered this thing and she's going to 
>> show 
>> it on Instagram and you know what that means!" 😂🤣
>>
>> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 4:52:16 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Leah promoted the Billie bars and they sold out fast after that, now 
>>> with a backlog of interest.  NO SURPRISE HERE.  Hahaha.. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:45 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
 Very nice Philip!

 So, several of us need Billie Bars and they are currently out of 
 stock. I hope to see some for sale here on the board. Hint, hint, 
 hint...
 Doug

 On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 P

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

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After a week away with a family crisis, I'm trying to  catch up on the 
handlebar thread and everyone's decisions. You all have provided much to 
the conversation and the subtle nuances experienced by each person.  This 
is the last item on my list to choose and I didn't get a chance to talk 
with Vince at Riv.  So this week I'll have an answer. 
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:46:33 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another rainy day although I did grab about 25 miles in dreary humidity. 
> Spent some of the rest of the day working on my twine & wrapping skills, I 
> wonder if Blue Lug is hiring?
>
> [image: PXL_20210523_024219127.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 9:18:56 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>> (how's that for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe."
>>
>> Right?? I literally caught my breath at this one:
>>
>
>> "The drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and 
>> sweep way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats."
>>
>> I could immediately and vividly see it in my mind's eye and thought to 
>> myself HOW DID SHE THINK OF THAT??
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:13:56 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Your metaphors rise almost to the level of literature, and "almost" is 
>>> not a putdown, either. Seriously, this gives one a much more "concrete" 
>>> (how's *that* for a metaphor?) picture of the Billie versus Boscoe.
>>>
>>> Me, I've no use or desire at all for wide bars with great sweepback; I 
>>> always cut non-drop bars down to be comfortable. But I do know the feeling 
>>> of being able to hold on to the ends of the bar to stand (or sit) and 
>>> torque hard for hills or, around here, sand patches -- I have just now, 
>>> after months, put the final perfecting adjustment touches to my flipped and 
>>> ruthlessly cut down MAP/Ahearne bar (9 cm stem) (moved the Shimano 600 
>>> levers about 3/4" further toward the (severely trimmed) ends of the bar, so 
>>> I can brake with 1 or 2 fingers from the Ergon grips but still wrap fingers 
>>> around lever bodies for a forward, more inclined riding position.
>>>
>>> Photos, please.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 9:42 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Friends,

 It has been unbelievably windy here in Vegas. My Billie Bars arrived 
 yesterday afternoon and I got them installed right away (which I 
 documented 
 in a minimally helpful, mostly satirical video on Instagram). But, it was 
 too windy to ride. The weather still wasn’t cooperating today, but the 
 winds died down enough to let me out for a quick 10 miles with my new 
 Billie Bars. I wish I had more time and miles with them, but in the 
 interest of people trying to choose bars and stem for their new Platys in 
 a 
 hurry, I’ll give you my unvarnished opinion.

 The 9 cm stem is going to be just fine, I think. There is enough of a 
 reach that I don’t feel cramped in the cockpit (oh, how I hate the term 
 for 
 bikes). The Bosco Bars make a statement, like antlers, like a crown. The 
 drama queen of Rivendell’s bar line-up, they rise dramatically and sweep 
 way back, like a woman lifting her petticoats. That was the first 
 appreciable difference I noted between the bars - the Billie is flatter 
 and 
 has less reach-back. Understated compared to the dramatic Bosco. But the 
 Billie is regal in its own way, too - those curves on either side of the 
 clamp are lovely. To use imagery from nature:  the Boscos are a buck with 
 an impressive rack, the Billies are a bird taking flight. 

 So, what about the width of those flared 58 cm Billie Bars? Sisters, I 
 know we were worried. We said, “They made those wide bars for full-grown, 
 broad-shouldered men and what about us?” But I have good news - I think 
 you’ll like that flare! It’s not too wide, and I think it is more 
 ergonomic 
 the way your wrists meet those bar ends. 

 Climbing. I love Boscos, but I really do think I had too short of a 
 stem for them. I think 11cm would be the ticket and I have a 9. I hated 
 climbing with my Boscos because they came back too far and it was awkward. 
 I rarely stood on my pedals because the bar ends came back to my hips. 
 Ever 
 ridden your bike uphill with your hands behind your hips?! Also, I am a 
 bar 
 puller. I pull hard on handlebars when I am really exerting effort to 
 climb 
 a hill or to go fast and it was too cramped with the Boscos and a 9 cm 
 stem. I would get a sharp pain in my right wrist that would actually make 
 me gasp. But not tonight. I can yank those bars all I want - when I’m 
 starting from a dead stop, or climbing a hill or racing around on the 
 f

Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

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This is the discussion for me!
Handlebar decision is keeping me from hitting the green light on my Platy 
build.  
I just don't know.  
Doug Hsame for me.  Drops on my road bike (riding 90% of the time on 
the hoods)  and straight bars on my hybrid/mountain bike.
I would like a sweep and maybe a slight rise but don't want to be in a Mary 
Poppins position.  If it is too close to me and closes off the cockpit, I 
will be super bummed.  Also, how does that even work with climbing hills?  
Vince at Riv is suggesting the Choco but I'm not sold.  
Leaning towards Albatross.
I might be losing sleep on this as I really need to pick something 
likethis week.  
Leah...Billie's also sound good.  
I just don't know.
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:51:51 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>
>
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, but 
> the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too close 
> to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, I 
> have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>
> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What are 
> your impressions?
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>
> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  wrote:
>
> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
> a file or grinder to it though.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phillip's pictured) 
>> wouldn't fit on the mounts on my Platypus.  It was too narrow by a couple 
>> of mm.  So I got a different kickstand.  Quality control issue I guess.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy after 10 years

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Thank you for this wonderful article and photos of a well loved bike.  I 
just love seeing people on their bikes. The more the better. 
Pam, I too use the Cateye Enduro on my bike to track mileage and I will be 
moving it and resetting it for my new platypus.  
Ride on!
Kate-Trenton, NJ
anxiously awaiting her first Riv

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 5:18:56 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Au contraire!
> [image: 9E69-1B45-45CC-BF99-A54EE3B16529_1_105_c.jpeg]
> Riding in the rain is why you have fenders! Dyno hub and LED lights for 
> the dark of night. 
>
>
> Out in the falling rain is one of the top bicycling moments for me. I have 
> picked parts over the years to become more impervious to riding in the wet, 
> component by component. Tubeless wheels finished my list, solving the 
> problem of wet tubes and rim tape from centrifugal entry at the spoke 
> holes. 
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-05-17 at 5.16.12 AM.png]
> We're pretty average here, our wet is just spread more evenly than other 
> places where big storms with significant downpours concentrate rainfall.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 9:15:08 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> In the spirit of our Pam I’m going out and trashing my dream bike in the 
>> rain! Right now.
>> Leah 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 16, 2021, at 5:38 PM, David Person  wrote:
>>
>> Grant would be so proud of you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 3:29:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I admire your moral fiber for happily riding your bike without fretting 
>>> about the paint. I do have a 22-year-old Rivendell, but I've babied it, and 
>>> only used it very occasionally for errands or commuting (it's the 1999 Joe 
>>> Starck custom). It had a few minor scuffs, but the Joe Bell paint was 
>>> largely intact when I had it slightly modified and powdercoated (*nice* 
>>> powdercoat) 
>>> in 2018. It does sport a wee dent in the right chainstay where another 
>>> eejit cyclist, playing paceline with me last year, slammed into me from 
>>> behind -- bent the wheel but left the frame *almost* unscathed.
>>>
>>> OTOH, I did commute on another Riv custom with Joe Bell paint for many 
>>> years, including carriage on bus bike racks -- more but again minor scuffs 
>>> and scrapes.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

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After talking with Vince at RivBike.  I decided to go with the Switchback 
Hills 48 also.  No fenders.
That was the easy decision.  I just can't figure out what handlebars to go 
with!
Choco? Tosco? flat with sweep?  Lost in the internet for hours!!!
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 9:57:39 AM UTC-4 willms...@gmail.com wrote:

> For what it's worth, I have Snoqualmie Passes on my Hillborne with the 
> Simworks 58 Hammered fenders and they work great.  I just got a Platypus 
> for my wife and she has Switchback Hills and our plan is to have our LBS 
> install the Simworks 62 smooth fenders on her bike.  
>
> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 8:38:24 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>
>> "Some of them are clearly wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse Snoqualmie 
>> Pass tires possibly weigh less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass" ... apparently 
>> Jan answered this in the comments to a blog post at Rene Herse 
>> 
>> : 
>> "Compass tires are largely made by hand. The rubber coating of the 
>> casing, but also the tread thickness, vary a bit from one production run to 
>> the next. *The last batch of Barlow Pass tires turned out a tad heavy 
>> (which means they set up very easily tubeless), while recent Snoqualmies 
>> have been at the light end of the spectrum.* They all ride great, and 
>> you’ll be hard-pressed to notice the difference on the road." 
>>
>> I have Continental Speed Contact (or as riv called them, Basketball 
>> tires) in 700x42mm and they're excellent for the anticipated riding, but 
>> slightly heavy (also excellent flat protection in my experience, though 
>> with tubeless sealant added to the tubes which helps quite a bit). Also 
>> strongly recommend the Schwalbe G-One Allround in 45mm (they don't yet 
>> offer the Speed version, with tiny treads vs. the Allround's knobbies, of 
>> the G-one wider than 38mm, but that's also excellent). 
>>
>> I'd bet the 44mm Snoqualmie pass tires are a great fit for this riding 
>> and they'd still have excellent fender protection under the 52mm Soma 
>> fenders. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 15:28:25 UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> BTW, the Shikoros are not SOMA's lightweight slick tire. At 320g(28c), 
>>> 350g(33c) 430g(38c) for the folding ones, they're more like replacements 
>>> for their heavier Everwear tires. The wire rimmed ones are obviously 
>>> heavier still. Another comparison would be to the Riv Ruffy Tuffy (700x28) 
>>> or Jack Brown (700x33). SOMA's lightweight tires are the Supple Vitesse 
>>> models, which are roughly in the same market as the Panaracer GravelKing 
>>> slicks and the Rene Herse standard casing models:
>>>
>>> SOMA Shikoro (folding): 28c (320g), 33c (350g), 38c (
>>> 430g)
>>>
>>> SOMA Supple Vitesse SL (light):   28c (220g), 33c (250g), 38c (270g), 
>>> 42c (340g)
>>>
>>> SOMA Supple Vitesse EX (heavy): 28c (270g), 33c (290g), 38c (320g), 42c 
>>> (380g)
>>>
>>> Rivendell Ruffy Tuffy:   28c (not currently listed 
>>> on Riv or SOMA sites, so who knows?)
>>>
>>> Rivendell Jack Brown:33c 
>>> (320g light, 400g heavy)   
>>>
>>> Panaracer GravelKing slick:28c (270g), 32c (290g), 35c 
>>> (310g), 38c (330g)
>>>
>>> Rene Herse (standard):28c (248g), 32c (291g), 35c 
>>> (355g), 38c (385g), 44c (375g)
>>>
>>> Rene Herse (extralight):   28c (225g), 32c (254g), 35c 
>>> (303g), 38c (350g), 44c (330g)
>>>
>>> By tradition, we can assume that many of these weights are wishful 
>>> thinking - maybe many of the measurements, too. Some of them are clearly 
>>> wrong; how can the 700x44 Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires possibly weigh 
>>> less than the 700x38 Barlow Pass ones, unless the casings on the 700x44s 
>>> are sidewall-bursting thin? And weightwise, the SOMA Supple Vitesse SLs are 
>>> just *crazy* light, if those numbers are real.
>>>
>>> A nice-riding, fairly durable 700x30-something tire (if you can find 
>>> them) is the SOMA New Express, which has the Panaracer Pasela tread with a 
>>> more flexible casing. This was originally a 700c tire, which SOMA 
>>> discontinued when they introduced the Supple Vitesse on the lighter end and 
>>> the Shikoro on the heavier end. I rode a pair of folding New Expresses in 
>>> 700x35 for a year or so on my around-town bike, and really liked them; I'd 
>>> buy them again if they were still available.
>>>
>>> Peter Adler
>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 2:38:05 PM UTC-7 Peter Adler wrote:
>>>
 All the SOMA tires are made by Panaracer (the bike tire subsidiary of 
 National Tire, which is the tiremaking subsidiary of Panasonic; they 
 mostly 
 do car/truck tires). All the Grand Bois tires are made by Panaracer. All 
 the Rivendell tires are made by Panaracer. All the Compass/Rene Herse 
 tires 

[RBW] Re: Need Platypus tire advice

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Anyone running the Rene Herse  650B x 42 Babyshoe Pass?   Phil, I was 
considering the Loups 38 as well.  I am enjoying the Rene Herse Barlow Pass 
38 on my hybrid bike.  I also can see what all the fuss is about.  Like 
riding on clouds.  
Kate-Trenton, NJ
Mermaid 50 Platystill at Riv HQ

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 3:03:43 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm running the Rene Hearse Loups (650b) with tubes on my 50cm, now I 
> understand what all the fuss is about. They're fantastic & I'm sure the 
> rest of their range is of the same caliber.
>
> PB
>
> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 2:00:09 PM UTC-5 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Based on 55 cm frame size, I am assuming you plan to run 700c tires 
>> (couldn't tell since you have 27.5 on your Clem). I have 700 x 38 mm 
>> Panaracer Gravel king on my Roadini and they have been really great. 
>> Despite the name, they are more of a road/slick tires with some light 
>> treading which gives good traction on dirt. I ride unloaded but I am heavy 
>> myself (200+ lbs) and find that they provide ample cushioning filled at 
>> 70ish PSI. I recently did a 70 mile day ride and they kept me comfortable 
>> all day. 
>>
>> Never tired the Shikoro (btw they are made by Soma, not Panaracer) but 
>> heard that they are quite similar PR Gravelkings. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Oh joy!  My mermaid Platypus 55 cm frame is on the way!  There’s no ETA 
>>> yet on Velocity Dyad wheels from Rich at RBW,  however I want to be ready 
>>> and am seeking the wisdom of the group for recommendations on tires.  
>>>
>>> Details: 
>>> —Soma fenders, 52mm, that allow for tires up to 42mm
>>> —Light build, mostly planning for road riding or Rails to Trails paths 
>>> —Minimal loads for day rides
>>> —I’ll be using tubes and don’t need “tubeless ready.”
>>> —No super light casings because I want some flat protection
>>> —I have a Clem for hauling and riding dirt trails using Schwalbe Big 
>>> Bens, 27.5 x 2.0
>>>
>>> Options contemplated:
>>> —Panaracer Shikoro 38mm (can’t locate 42 in stock)
>>> —Panaracer Gravel King (not sure which one)
>>>
>>> Your thoughts and advice?  What would you recommend?  What else should I 
>>> consider? 
>>>
>>> —Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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I received my first email from RIV about my Platy.  And so it begins.

Roberta, I'm interested in the handlebar choice too.  Tell me more.

Philip, I can't wait to see it..

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 1:39:35 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> Anyone lucky enough to already have his/her 55 Platy, could you measure 
> the effective top tube and post that here?   If it matters, I run the seat 
> height around 72cm.
>
> I sent Analog Cycles Losco and Albatross bars today (both already in my 
> bin) and they will decide which will work best for me with the frame, but 
> I'm curious while I wait. 
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>
> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 10:06:35 AM UTC-4 Melanie wrote:
>
>> Roberta - I saw that photo on IG and just knew it had to be yours!
>>
>> On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 6:02:29 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Philip,  looking forward to seeing your full build and hearing your 
>>> impressions. How could you have not openened the box immediately???  
>>>
>>> Here’s my partial build. I’ll be getting it in a few weeks. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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Patrick, You build up a very special bike.  I love all of it.  Is that a 
very large bike bottle cage that fits a liter bottle?
Kate

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Yes *Ma'am!*
>
> Or, if you are British: "Righty-ho, Mum!"
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 1:30 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
>> Ok, Bones, here’s what we’re gonna do. You’re gonna clean that bathroom 
>> until it sparkles as bright as a lime olive Platy and then place that bike 
>> in the center of the bathroom and see what kind of reaction she gives you.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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Heather Hayes, my receipt said the same thing.  I wanted the MERMAID but it 
auto purchased the Lime/Olive.  We'll see what happens.  I clicked as fast 
as I could on the dot!


On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:10:20 PM UTC-4 Heather Hayes wrote:

> I clicked purchase on the 50cm in Mermaid, but my receipt says Lime-Olive. 
> :/ If anyone had the opposite problem, please let me know if you'd like to 
> trade! :) 
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> When I was chatting to James & Grant about mine they said I could do a 50 
>> or a 55. My PBH is 81cm, 5'7", ride a seat at 72cm.
>>
>> You might be in luck.
>>
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>> oh my... 50-cm Platypus Mermaid is sold out before 3:02pm (EDT). I 
>>> missed out... 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 2:43:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Your wish appears to have been granted. The Platypus page now says 
 $1650. 


 On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:

> Or as my brain wakes upmaybe the price hike is an April Fool's 
> joke? Wishful thinking?
>
> Jonathan P.
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:10:36 AM UTC-7 Jonny P wrote:
>
>> While I still think $1800 is a very fair price, I think the reasoning 
>> in the last minute change is a bit suspect. Grant's Blahg has said since 
>> 3-4 weeks ago that they knew frames would cost more than other models, 
>> hence the $1600 price tag vs $1500 because the Platypii cost an extra 
>> $100 
>> to make. 
>>
>> From Platy Page:
>>
>> "It costs $100 more than our other lugged bikes, because it costs us 
>> about $80 more. For that $100, at least for this first run, we include a 
>> wonderful DVD on the platypus, filmed (naturally) in Australia by an 
>> award 
>> winning duo of biologists and platypus-lovers."
>>
>> But, I do know in the current supply chain environment that import 
>> taxes/tarriffs are surprising some brands causing them to bump up the 
>> price. Also, with the pent up demand of the bike world and RBW in 
>> particular, I am sure these will rightfully all be sold today! 
>>
>> Jonathan P.
>> Seattle, WA
>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 6:35:05 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Today’s the day! I’m headed to work but I’ll be checking every 
>>> chance I get! Good luck, all!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am *not* purchasing a Platypus but it's 8:42 AM here on the east 
>>> coast and I'm already white-knuckling the frame release. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Note posted on Riv’s website last night:

 NOTE: The Platypus frames cost $1,800. We've known that and talked 
 about it for several weeks now, but due to a cloning error, until Wed 
 Mar 
 31 8:40 p.m., they were listed at $1,600. Our bad, but we are not able 
 to 
 sell them that cheap, and if you hate us you'll insist. They cost us 
 considerably more than a Sam, Homer, etc...

 The nearly last-minute correction is not strategic. We're on your 
 side, and we ask for your understanding. Thanks. Grant

 On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 7:45:26 PM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Add two half-700c wheels which are about 28” in diameter 
> (depending on tire volume). So, 47.25” + 28” = 75.25”
> Or 6’ 3.25” for the 55cm bike
>
> David Lipsky 
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:28 PM, Leah Peterson  
> wrote:
>
> I can tell you the wheelbase (which is what you’ll need to know, 
> right?) of my 55 cm is approx. 47 1/4 inches. Not sure what a 60 
> would be 
> but Philip sounds like he knows how to figure it out!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 31, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Emily Guise  
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how long the Platypuses will be? I was trying to 
> figure out if the 60cm size would fit within the Amtrak bike 
> dimensions for 
> roll-on service, which is 70" x 41" x 8.5". I couldn't find the 
> info on the Riv site. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 9:28:20 AM UTC-7 Clark Fitzgerald 
> wrote:
>
>> The bike looks good in its element.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:42:47 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, Philip. And thanks! 
>>>
>>> The winds died down this evening and I made it out for 12 or 13 
>>> miles a

Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

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Oh my my head was filled with Platy dreams all night!!!  I can't wait.  
I put it out of my head and forced myself not to think about it until next 
month but what?  Here they are.  So close!!!  
I originally attached myself to the 50 lime/olive but that mermaid is 
calling me like a siren in the distance.  Hm, I shall sleep again 
tonight and see who calls. 
Kate-Trenton, NJ

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Haha, I knew you would catch the spelling. And you're right, I DON'T STAND 
> A CHANCE! 😂
>
> Joe "hmm, maybe a 2-speed project to see how light a Platy can get would 
> be fun 🤔" Bernard
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 6:31:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but who wants to tell Will he’s spelling it wrong? It’s PLATY!
>>
>> I’m so excited for the Platy People. The colors look beautiful; you will 
>> love the bike. There’s magic in the Riv mixtes. Joe, you don’t stand a 
>> chance.
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Check your emails, kids. In a stunning turn of events I've never seen in 
>> the history of RBW - and I've been here from the beginning - frames are a 
>> month early! 
>>
>> PS. Note that Will now calls Platypuses "Plattys", which is what Leah 
>> Bicycle Belle Ding Ding has been calling them for months. It's the new 
>> catchphrase that's sweeping the nation! 🙂
>>
>> Joe "doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new bike doesn't need a new 
>> bike" Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> Some not gangly nor awkward 60cm Cheviot shots from Napa:
>>> https://imgur.com/a/VXeg4Q5
>>> [image: 9 - bNrYfpz.jpg]
>>> On Friday, 26 March 2021 at 11:02:51 UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 As someone who's getting a 60cm olive green, I can't wait to see that 
 size and color either! I hope the 60cm look as nicely proportioned as the 
 smaller ones. I always thought the 60cm Cheviot looked so gangly and 
 awkward compared to the smaller sizes.

 On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39:22 AM UTC-7 Fullylugged wrote:

> Looking at the Riv site and the pics and "Standard" build noted there: 
> The rear gearing is shown as 11-34 9 sp (my favorite!) but the R90 
> Sunrace 
> mech in the picture will only do 11-28. Possibly, the bike will ship with 
> a 
> different rear unit. Sunrace does make an 11-34  capable MTB rear 
> derailleur. Microshift is another source of nice parts for less money 
> than 
> the big name parts makers. 
>
> On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:30:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, it scales by wheel size basically perfectly, they look the same 
>> size if you don't know ones 650b and ones 700c
>>
>> On Fri., Mar. 26, 2021, 5:51 a.m. Leah Peterson,  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose it does because there was no demo at Riv until now. The 
>>> demos prior to this one (we saw them in green and silver, I think) are 
>>> off 
>>> in the wild somewhere (don’t know who got them) and they were not the 
>>> final 
>>> design. So, the container must have arrived and that means Platypuses 
>>> will 
>>> be dotting the American countryside in the next few weeks!
>>>
>>> Really hoping they will immediately ship out the frames that are 
>>> going to LBSs and Riv dealers. Just send ‘em off! Clears up space and 
>>> gets 
>>> more bodies on Platys sooner.
>>>
>>> I’m really curious to see the 60. And hopefully in the other color. 
>>> So far we have the 50 and 55, pictured below:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 11:38 PM, 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So this must mean the container has finally arrived in Walnut 
>>> Creek?!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:21:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/50cm-platypus-demo

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Ray Varella  
 wrote:

 


 Here’s a Platypus Easter twist

 Ray
 On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 6:08:08 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Leah,
> I really like how you've personalized your bike with the colors. 
> I'm too bland to ride those colors but it really is a piece of art!
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:43:09 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all! I am so glad you see what I was trying for. This 
>> bike and I are tightly bonded. I never look at it without smiling. 
>> Ever. 
>>
>> But it will be old news soon, because there will be a pile o’ new 
>> Platys for

Re: [RBW] Re: A Raspberry Racing Platypus and a QuickGrilver Clem Vs.A Roadie on Killer Hill

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Love this story.  You show 'em and with class!
Kate

On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 12:27:51 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ha! Thanks, Ed. It might be better in the storytelling than real life. 😜
>
> Oh, I found a pic of Baby Bear on his bike, in case anyone was wondering...
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I can almost visualize the scene.
> How I wish I was there to witness :-)
>
> On Monday, March 15, 2021 at 11:41:36 AM UTC+8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 269F6687-1E73-4DC9-ABC6-A84D0D1AE0A9.jpeg]Today Baby Bear (he’s 
>> 12) accompanied me on a ride. We were just beginning our ascent of Killer 
>> Hill when we noticed a roadie up ahead. He was on the path, and not the 
>> road, and his Lycra was rather tight. He had the glasses, the carbon, the 
>> kit - he was telling the world he was LEGIT. I wasn’t buying it. I looked 
>> at my son, who was looking at me and mirroring my expression. 
>>
>> “Let’s get him,” I said.
>>
>> Now, let me set this scene for you. My son is about 60 pounds. He’s 
>> piloting a 45 cm Clem H with a large Nitto rear rack and basket, and a 
>> couple of handlebar bags. Huge 2 inch Kenda tires on those heavy stock Clem 
>> wheels. His bike weighs half his body weight, I’ll bet. And worse, he’s out 
>> of practice. He used to dance up that hill, but he doesn’t negotiate Killer 
>> Hill much these days (my kids are in virtual school so no bike 
>> commute)...but facts be darned, we’ve decided. 
>>
>> Baby Bear has a strong start, and I follow behind. He rings his bell to 
>> alert the roadie to our presence. The roadie is NOT expecting anyone else 
>> to be climbing this hill on a bike, and especially not passing him, so it 
>> doesn’t compute and he misses it. I give him two pretty Spurcycle dings and 
>> an “on your left” and then he knows. We shoot past him at a higher speed 
>> than we’d ever normally take and again, exchange looks, this time worried 
>> ones. Our incline is rapidly increasing and we are going too fast. We have 
>> 3/4 of a mile to go. Baby Bear is standing on his pedals and breathing hard.
>>
>> “Well, we’re committed now,” I tell him. And I mean it. I can’t slow down 
>> even if it kills me. I’m going to ride my raspberry racing Platypus up 
>> Killer Hill with my Saddlesack and unicorn Platypus pin and if I go into 
>> cardiac arrest at the top it will have been worth it. 
>>
>> I don’t realize I’ve dropped my kid. When I do, I see that he has been 
>> passed by the roadie after he (OH COME ON) stopped to take a drink of 
>> water. The roadie and his unfortunate Lycra are now in the middle of a 
>> Peterson sandwich. 
>>
>> I’m separated from my son; I can no longer see him, and it worries me. I 
>> can see the roadie clearly, though, and he’s still coming. Mother of the 
>> Year here, I have a tough choice to make. 
>>
>> And I make it.
>>
>> Breathless and exhausted, I stop at the top of the hill and watch the 
>> roadie approach. He will know I’m waiting for my son now and that I have, 
>> indeed, won.  When he gets close I close my mouth, slow my breathing and 
>> smile at him so he won’t know I am actually about to die. He averts his 
>> eyes but he does say hi. After a long while, Baby Bear comes into view. He 
>> is sheepish about being bested after such a strong start but he also 
>> doesn’t berate me for ditching him. He knows I had to do it. He’s glad I 
>> upheld the family honor; we get each other, Baby Bear and me. If he 
>> couldn’t do it, he knew I was gonna have to. 
>>
>> Anyway, Baby Bear is going to take on that hill more often so he can 
>> smoke roadies on his QuickGrilver Clem next time.
>>
>> Leah 
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[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

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Hi Linda,
I'm just shy of 5ft 6 and going with the 50 Platypus.  Will said he errs on 
the side of smaller and Grant would err on the larger side.  I have no idea 
how it will feel as I have never ridden anything like this and also never a 
Riv.  I just looked at that Handsome She-Devil as well and it sure does 
look nice.  Very reasonable price for a complete bike.
Kate

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:07:57 PM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> Thank you Marc and Tom for your responses. The feedback is helpful.
> Linda
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 6:21:08 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> I find the Buena Vista very firm.  The previous version I built had a VO 
>> front rack and rear with Wald folding baskets.  I could carry $200 in 
>> groceries and the frame was still very firm.  The front rack did wobble a 
>> little under heavy load.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 3:16:25 AM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:
>>
>>> My question was directed to Tom or Marc about the Soma Buena Vista. I do 
>>> not believe the Platypus would be flexy because it has a different top tube 
>>> design. Same with the Handsome She-Devil. I'm looking for everything I want 
>>> in one bike and it is very difficult to find! That's to be expected.
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 12:01:10 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I had a 55cm Cheviot and it was one of the stiffest bikes I've ever 
 owned, I think the mid-stays in the rear triangle contributed to this..I 
 would be very surprised if the new Platypus (updated Cheviot) is flexy. 

 Also I recommend comparing the sizing of your V-O to the 50cm Platy, 
 it's going to be the shorter Platypus in the line and uses 650B wheels. 
 I'll bet - with Riv's penchant for long front-centers - that you'll fit 
 it. 

 Joe Bernard 
 On Thursday, March 4, 2021 at 5:17:57 PM UTC-8 Linda G wrote:

> Does this bike feel flexy with a load in front and back, set fairly 
> high on your racks? I ask because I have a Velo Orange mixte, size 54, 
> which has a similar design and rack configuration. The flex bothers me. 
> It's kind of an unstable feeling side to side. It's also enough to make 
> the 
> rear brake rub on a rough road. I'm looking for an alternative and the 
> Platypus is too long and big-tired for me. I like the fact that the Soma 
> can run 650 b's.
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:25 AM UTC-8 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
>> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
>> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
>> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, 
>> but 
>> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm 
>> Pari 
>> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub 
>> Shimano 
>> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very 
>> well. 
>> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
>> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever 
>> a 
>> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and 
>> Shimano 
>> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow 
>> triplizer 
>> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 
>> 5 
>> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the 
>> bends 
>> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way 
>> conservative. 
>> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
>> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the 
>> swept 
>> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too 
>> light 
>> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty 
>> road 
>> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame 
>> they 
>> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is 
>> tremendous- 
>> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and 
>> it 
>> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>>
>> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and 
>> this may be the ride.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

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; *upyou...@yahoo.com*
>>>>>> *Kate Gilson*
>>>>>> [image: Image Preview]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, 08:48:10 PM EST, Joe Bernard <
>>>>>> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kate, welcome to the Riv Show 🙋‍♂️
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you'll love that gorgeous Platypus, it's the business! You 
>>>>>> can't go wrong with most of Riv's suggestions for parts, but the 
>>>>>> indexing/friction shifter conundrum may come up and I don't know what 
>>>>>> you're using on your road and trail bikes (and you may already know what 
>>>>>> you want and my advice is moot). Friction front is great, but Riv is 
>>>>>> also a 
>>>>>> big propronent of friction rear, as are many of its riders. I am not 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> person, I need clicky shifts for the rear derailleur. My 
>>>>>> recently-purchased-used Riv Susie came with friction rear and I just 
>>>>>> replaced it with this clicky-thing..I'll have a friction thumbshifter 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> the front and this index for the rear, this is a setup Riv offers. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/kljs-gl46sgg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>> upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh hello new sister I will post pics. I just spoke with Will last 
>>>>>> evening and secured myself the green. I’m so nervous and worried since 
>>>>>> I’ve 
>>>>>> never ridden a Riv nor have I ever ridden a mixer ha ha. I’ve never had 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I 
>>>>>> wondered 
>>>>>> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
>>>>>> found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
>>>>>> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
>>>>>> water bottles. 
>>>>>> More questions to follow.
>>>>>> Thanks for connecting. 
>>>>>> Kate from NJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on 
>>>>>> trails or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, 
>>>>>> commute, run errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a 
>>>>>> Clem, too, and while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The 
>>>>>> Platy turns so easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> long chainstays but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel 
>>>>>> like a long bike to me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will 
>>>>>> be 
>>>>>> even more so in that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You 
>>>>>> will 
>>>>>> show us your bike and report back, won’t you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing 
>>>>>> them below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they 
>>>>>> are 
>>>>>> there. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to 
>>>>>> share.
>>>>>> #RivSisters,
>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners 
>>>>>> Bunch  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Leah,
>>>>>> I really want to know h

Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

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gt;> the 
>>>> opportunity to select any parts of a bike before. This is so new I 
>>>> wondered 
>>>> if I made a mistake and should cancel but I came across this group and 
>>>> found your pics and got excited that this could be a real good thing. 
>>>> I will sleep better tonight knowing there are 2 sets of braze-ons fir 
>>>> water bottles. 
>>>> More questions to follow.
>>>> Thanks for connecting. 
>>>> Kate from NJ
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 19:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kate! A new #RivSister? Color me delighted! 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are going to LOVE your new Platy. Love. You can take it off on 
>>>> trails or ride it on the road. You can haul things around with you, 
>>>> commute, run errands, pedal aimlessly - it’s good for it all. I have a 
>>>> Clem, too, and while it is very multidimensional, it is not as fast. The 
>>>> Platy turns so easily and just feels perfect for me. It has the comfort of 
>>>> long chainstays but is not as long as the Clem - it truly does not feel 
>>>> like a long bike to me. The Platy is quick and light and I swear it will 
>>>> be 
>>>> even more so in that gorgeous green. I really am so happy for you. You 
>>>> will 
>>>> show us your bike and report back, won’t you?
>>>>
>>>> Braze-ons - YES! There are two water bottle mounts and I am picturing 
>>>> them below. Mine have some other stuff blocking a great view, but they are 
>>>> there. 
>>>>
>>>> Did I miss anything? Ask all the questions you want. I’m so happy to 
>>>> share.
>>>> #RivSisters,
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 4:02 PM, 'upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> HI Leah,
>>>> I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a 
>>>> lovely green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike 
>>>> and an old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 
>>>> 40 
>>>> miles a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can 
>>>> unload 
>>>> my old bikes which I do not love. 
>>>> Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure 
>>>> do look happy with your bike.  Cheers
>>>> Kate 
>>>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure 
>>>> is to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into 
>>>> your 
>>>> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
>>>> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
>>>> finery.
>>>>
>>>> There is no other way. 
>>>> Leah
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in 
>>>> the ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to 
>>>> hop 
>>>> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
>>>> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
>>>> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
>>>> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>>>>
>>>> Melanie
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve 
>>>> never ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both 
>>>> types of bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and 
>>>> riding a diamond frame?
>>>>
>>>> Mixte-curious Melanie 
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Re: [RBW] Mixte vs Diamond Frame

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HI Leah,
I really want to know how your new Platy rides.  I'm in line for a lovely 
green one and have never ridden a mixte.  I have an old road bike and an 
old trail bike.  I ride anywhere from an hour to a week of riding 40 miles 
a day.  I'm hoping the Platy will cover all my bases and I can unload my 
old bikes which I do not love. 
Can you confirm that there are braze-ons for 2 water bottles?  You sure do 
look happy with your bike.  Cheers
Kate 
On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 9:34:51 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> There is no cure for mixte-itis. The only way to be rid of it for sure is 
> to ask your Appaloosa to scoot over and  allow a Platy to move into your 
> garage. Once that is done, the next step in your treatment process is to 
> message your #RivSisters and start planning your build and dreaming about 
> finery.
>
> There is no other way. 
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 28, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Melanie Yolles  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks for everyone's thoughts on mixtes. So there is no difference in the 
> ride per se, just some perceived advantages (aesthetics, ability to hop 
> on/off without fear of hitting the top tube, ability to wear a sundress, 
> LOL!).  There are definitely times I wished that my Appaloosa had a lower 
> top tube. So now I'm trying to fight off a case of BBDD-induced Platypus 
> fever. Is there a vaccine?
>
> Melanie
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:47 AM Melanie  wrote:
>
>> All this discussion of mixtes on the list has made me curious. I’ve never 
>> ridden a mixte. Other than mounting/dismounting, do owners of both types of 
>> bikes experience any real differences between riding a mixte and riding a 
>> diamond frame?
>>
>> Mixte-curious Melanie 
>>
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