[RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Recommendations

[BSWP]

I would want the widest hub possible, for the most robust wheel overall. 
That is, spoke flanges on the hub as far apart as possible. I've noticed 
some hubs are narrower than others, and worry that the wheels won't hold up 
to side loads and bumps as well as those built on wider hubs.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 9:06:29 PM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> I was curious what folks experience are with the different dynamo hub 
> options.  The Schmidt Sonn Dynamo hub seem to set the standard but at a 
> high cost.  The other two I was looking at are Shutter Precision and the 
> Shimano Dynamo hubs.  Anyone seen a good comparison? Should I be concerned 
> with reliability if I went with something cheaper than the Schmidt hub?
>

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[RBW] Re: In your opinion, what's missing from the Riv lineup?

[BSWP]

MUSA pants with solid pockets and un-weird gusset colors, that's what's 
missing.

- Andrew "Not bitter, just certain," Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: 1/1/20 Blahg

[BSWP]

I also enjoyed the new years day blahg... rambling, informative, 
entertaining. I think I need some new fidget gadgets on my desk...

I have two bikes right now, QuickBeam (shift by loosening two 15mm nuts and 
sliding the axle or flopping the wheel) and LongLow (friction-mode Shimano 
105 barends to a fine six-speed freewheel and front triple). For me, 
friction shifting keeps me in tune with the bike, which I like. The rubbing 
front der or rumbling rear cogs tell me I need to nudge the lever just a 
wee bit more, and I appreciate the communication. But that's me, the 
connection with the components is part of the ride, and part of why I ride.

Now, on the new frame, still waiting to be built, I have a Rohloff rear 
hub, so it's going to be a purely indexed shifter, the big collar to turn. 
Thinking to mount it on the stem... there will be learning involved, and I 
look forward to that, too.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Appreciation for my 1998 LongLow

[BSWP]

LOL They were a wet rainy walk across the parking lot from our Motel 6 in 
Napa. A place called "Squeeze Inn" burgers, at 3383 Solano Avenue. Yes, I 
would go back... they have excellent beer on tap, and cooked my fries 
crispy, just like I asked (I eat & drink lots of carbs on these rides).

- Andrew

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 10:52:10 AM UTC-8, Mike Packard wrote:
>
> Awesome ride report and pix. PLEASE tell us more about those cheeseburgers.
>
> mike
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 8:25:51 PM UTC-6, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> I'm just back from a 215 mile loop out of Berkeley on my first Rivendell, 
>> a 65cm LongLow. We went to Point Reyes (over the RSR bridge!) then on to 
>> Tomales, where it's freezing cold at night but the saloon is hopping. Then 
>> a grunt out to Bodega Bay and second breakfast in Jenner, before meandering 
>> up the Russian River to Rio Nido for beer, and family hospitality in 
>> Heraldsburg. The rain came early, but relented enough to give us dry road 
>> into Calistoga, before hammering us the entire length of Silverado Trail, 
>> to an overpriced motel in Napa. Final day was like autopilot back through 
>> Vallejo and on down into Berkeley.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/albums/72157712451755936
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31483686
>>
>> The LongLow has its original Phil hubs, and six-speed freewheel, 
>> half-step + granny triple, simple Shimano 105 shifters, and nitto stem. It 
>> started with M'bars, but I've been riding on Noodles for five years now, 
>> and prefer them for long tours. The brakes are now "mini" Vees, and I very 
>> much like the Tektro interruptor levers. My luggage system is a basic Wald 
>> basket up front, with Sackville ShopSack, and a new-ish Banana bag under 
>> the saddle. For true camping, I have a stout Nitto rack and Ortliebs, this 
>> ride, I left the lightweight Nitto on, to carry beer or wine in case we 
>> needed extra capacity. Tires are now 35mm Compass something-something 
>> pass... very soft and forgiving, but still quite fast.
>>
>> I love the ride, so smooth and stable, and I can just pedal all day in 
>> comfort (except or my neck, it gets tired looking up, so I often go a few 
>> hundred feet looking down at the white shoulder line). There's a QuickBeam 
>> in my stable, and a new Riv-ish frame still to be painted and assembled 
>> (Rohloff meets MAFAC Racer), but I always enjoy this ride. Many thanks to 
>> Grant & crew for getting the frame sized right, and keeping me going.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Appreciation for my 1998 LongLow

[BSWP]

Patrick,

I am guessing less than 10,000 miles on the oldest parts. I do lots of 
short rides, and a few long rides. The hubs feel smooth and solid, as does 
the Phil bottom bracket. Headset with rollers on the bottom is smooth,, no 
notchiness. The rides are very different, QuickBeam is... quick to turn, 
and less forgiving on bumps. The LongLow has round forks, not ovalized, and 
they flex more. It's a very forgiving ride, made all the more so with the 
35mm Compass tires. 

- Andrew

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 7:09:04 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kudos on the trip and the photos. Curious: how many miles on the Phil 
> hubs, and have you had to replace the bearings? I have Phils on my '99 Riv 
> Road (replaced the bearings proactively at about 14K miles because the Phil 
> bb was getting new bearings.
>
> How does the LongLow ride compare to that of the Quickbeam? Also, does 
> anyone know how the LL's ride compares to that of the Rambouillet?
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 7:25 PM BSWP > 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm just back from a 215 mile loop out of Berkeley on my first Rivendell, 
>> a 65cm LongLow. We went to Point Reyes (over the RSR bridge!) then on to 
>> Tomales, where it's freezing cold at night but the saloon is hopping. Then 
>> a grunt out to Bodega Bay and second breakfast in Jenner, before meandering 
>> up the Russian River to Rio Nido for beer, and family hospitality in 
>> Heraldsburg. The rain came early, but relented enough to give us dry road 
>> into Calistoga, before hammering us the entire length of Silverado Trail, 
>> to an overpriced motel in Napa. Final day was like autopilot back through 
>> Vallejo and on down into Berkeley.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/albums/72157712451755936
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31483686
>>
>> The LongLow has its original Phil hubs, and six-speed freewheel, 
>> half-step + granny triple, simple Shimano 105 shifters, and nitto stem. It 
>> started with M'bars, but I've been riding on Noodles for five years now, 
>> and prefer them for long tours. The brakes are now "mini" Vees, and I very 
>> much like the Tektro interruptor levers. My luggage system is a basic Wald 
>> basket up front, with Sackville ShopSack, and a new-ish Banana bag under 
>> the saddle. For true camping, I have a stout Nitto rack and Ortliebs, this 
>> ride, I left the lightweight Nitto on, to carry beer or wine in case we 
>> needed extra capacity. Tires are now 35mm Compass something-something 
>> pass... very soft and forgiving, but still quite fast.
>>
>> I love the ride, so smooth and stable, and I can just pedal all day in 
>> comfort (except or my neck, it gets tired looking up, so I often go a few 
>> hundred feet looking down at the white shoulder line). There's a QuickBeam 
>> in my stable, and a new Riv-ish frame still to be painted and assembled 
>> (Rohloff meets MAFAC Racer), but I always enjoy this ride. Many thanks to 
>> Grant & crew for getting the frame sized right, and keeping me going.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>> -- 
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivelo closing in January

[BSWP]

I was glad to visit John's shop on my riding visit to Portland. I think 
it's a really hard market, and maybe especially so in Portland, where there 
seem to be as many bespoke boutique bike shops as brewpubs and beardwax 
purveyors. The market can only bear so many... I hear Norther Cycles is 
going away soon, too.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Appreciation for my 1998 LongLow

[BSWP]

I'm just back from a 215 mile loop out of Berkeley on my first Rivendell, a 
65cm LongLow. We went to Point Reyes (over the RSR bridge!) then on to 
Tomales, where it's freezing cold at night but the saloon is hopping. Then 
a grunt out to Bodega Bay and second breakfast in Jenner, before meandering 
up the Russian River to Rio Nido for beer, and family hospitality in 
Heraldsburg. The rain came early, but relented enough to give us dry road 
into Calistoga, before hammering us the entire length of Silverado Trail, 
to an overpriced motel in Napa. Final day was like autopilot back through 
Vallejo and on down into Berkeley.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/albums/72157712451755936

and

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31483686

The LongLow has its original Phil hubs, and six-speed freewheel, half-step 
+ granny triple, simple Shimano 105 shifters, and nitto stem. It started 
with M'bars, but I've been riding on Noodles for five years now, and prefer 
them for long tours. The brakes are now "mini" Vees, and I very much like 
the Tektro interruptor levers. My luggage system is a basic Wald basket up 
front, with Sackville ShopSack, and a new-ish Banana bag under the saddle. 
For true camping, I have a stout Nitto rack and Ortliebs, this ride, I left 
the lightweight Nitto on, to carry beer or wine in case we needed extra 
capacity. Tires are now 35mm Compass something-something pass... very soft 
and forgiving, but still quite fast.

I love the ride, so smooth and stable, and I can just pedal all day in 
comfort (except or my neck, it gets tired looking up, so I often go a few 
hundred feet looking down at the white shoulder line). There's a QuickBeam 
in my stable, and a new Riv-ish frame still to be painted and assembled 
(Rohloff meets MAFAC Racer), but I always enjoy this ride. Many thanks to 
Grant & crew for getting the frame sized right, and keeping me going.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants

[BSWP]

And already sold out of my size... sigh. I'm resigned to looking elsewhere 
for pants I can wear on and off the bike. I was ready for the sticker 
shock, and was even prepared to tolerate the mesh pockets.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Is anyone else excited about the return of MUSA pants?

[BSWP]

Okay, the most recent email hints/promises MUSA pants in the next two 
weeks... this gives me serious wood, I love all my MUSA attire - shorts, 
pants, shirts - and have been wishing they would all return. Well, TBH, I 
can do without mesh pockets, but still... the wool shirts are the bomb, I 
wear the blue and the green shirts everywhere, and I need, I mean seriously 
need, a new pair or two of pants. Thanks, RBW, for bring these back, I know 
I'll order two pair.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Newbaum's now offers wider, more padded tape

[BSWP]

I do well with two layers of Newbaum's, each layer coated in shellac. It's 
thicker, but no more absorbent.

On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 7:21:41 AM UTC-7, Matt D wrote:
>
> Seems pretty similar to Velo Orange's thicker tape, which I've had in the 
> past and found a little too absorbent of sweat to look pleasant for long.
>

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[RBW] Re: Fellowship of the Rigs update: TIME & PLACE

[BSWP]

That's a great time, and a good place. Let's get the group site with the 
FLAT sleeping sites, eh?

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 7:51:04 PM UTC-8, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
> After doing the surveys it looks like the most people voted affirmatively 
> for Friday July 19th - Sunday July 21st at Samuel P Taylor Park! There's 
> many ways up and back and lots of great rides to lead starting from their 
> group sites.
>
> I want to move forward with booking camp site and such but want to make 
> sure there's no "OMG WHY THAT DAY AND PLACE" concerns. 
>
> -J
>

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[RBW] Re: Heard my first "Hey, nice Riv!" today. Felt chuffed

[BSWP]

I ride in Berkeley and all of the East Bay... it's not uncommon to get 
chuffed several times each day. And as well, to hand out chuffs to fellow 
Riv riders I see. We are part of a not-so-secret not-so-subterranean 
society, that recognizes and embraces, through use, ownership, and 
promotion, the reverence of good things that work simply, and that simply 
work.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:18:57 AM UTC-7, LeRoy wrote:
>
> I've only had my Clem Smith Jr since late spring of this year and have put 
> about 750 miles on it. Rivendells of any sort are thin on the ground in my 
> Midwestern home. Most of the guys I ride with are only vaguely aware of the 
> brand. They do recognize my bike as an interesting curiosity. It's 
> something that's at variance with the generally mountain bike-oriented 
> bikes they own. So I've been pedaling along and simply enjoying the ride. 
> Thus it was with a bit of personal pleasure that I heard another rider call 
> out, *"Hey, nice Riv!"* as he cycled past this morning. I felt pretty 
> chuffed, in a private sort of way, that a stranger recognized the bike and 
> called it out. Did I need the "validation?" Well, maybe. Whatever. I must 
> say that it was nice to hear. When was your first such experience?
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for floor pumps?

[BSWP]

SKS Renkompressor, bought from RBW many years ago, now on its second head. 
Which lever sometimes slips off its axis pin... seeing the comments on the 
Kurahawa Hirame, I see I need to spend $65 immediately!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 7:01:06 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Please recommend a good floor pump.
>
> Must:
> 1. Be easy on/off. I do not want to have to rip the head off each time 
> after inflating to get it off the stem.
> 2. Seal well. I do not want to have to pump faster and faster to beat the 
> escaping air to the psi number want.
> 3. Be less than $65 US
>
> Thanks for your recommendations.
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[BSWP]

Yowza! RBW FTW!!

On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:21:17 PM UTC-8, Ann L wrote:
>
> Check your emails.  It looks like we all made a difference :)
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: fixed-free hubs & chain line

[BSWP]

I'm running a 1/8 chain on my QuickBeam, which has a single ring in front, 
and a Dos Eno and fixed cog on the rear. My chain line is not "perfect" but 
I'm not seeing any unusual wear on the cogs - that is, the wear seems even 
on both sides. What I find more critical is getting the front chain ring 
perfectly concentric with the BB spindle. This takes time and patience, to 
achieve uniform chain tension through the entire rotation of the big ring. 
When it's just right, it's delicious!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 7:13:56 AM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>
>
> I would like some advice please.
>
> From experience I've found that a 1/8" track ring/cog/chain drive train 
> can be particular about chain line.
> I've noticed that the chainline for the fixed and free sides of the Paul 
> high flange hub are different.
> So now I'm wondering, is that typical for fixed-free hubs?
> Does the thinner cog on a single speed fw afford enough slop that one can 
> set up the fixed side precisely with 1/8" stuff and the fw flip side will 
> be fine?
> Should I stick with normal width gears if I'm going to use a fixed-free 
> hub on a one speed?
>
> thanks for any help
>
> ted
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How avoid sore throats from riding in cold weather?

[BSWP]

Whiskey added to hot echinacea tea, with a healthy dollop of honey.
Zinc lozenges.
Salt water gargle, of course.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Riv request for store credits

[BSWP]

I just bought a bunch (and got email confirmation for each individual $10 
store credit). It's an easy call - RBW needs the cash, and they have what 
I'll be needing, down the road. 

While I'm here, let me also just say how GREAT the new MUSA Can-Tuck-It 
shirts are - fit, looks, feel, coolness. The green, especially, has a 
shimmering color quality that shifts as you look at it from different 
angles. I already have two, but need to get a couple more, for the long 
haul. The sizing however, on the website, is all whack... those instruction 
would have had me in a M, where the XL is the right size (I went there in 
person to try on).

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: cool new geometry section on rivbike.com

[BSWP]

Very much appreciated!

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 4:51:51 PM UTC-8, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> Maybe it's been there for a bit, but first time i noticed it:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> no offers optimal size of all models for a given pbh. Pretty cool.
>
> Sky in new west
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[RBW] Re: MUSA pre-order

[BSWP]

I think the shorter shorts are a good idea, but ugh... I've never liked 
mesh pockets for shorts, they invariably rip or tear and wear out long 
before fabric pockets do. I'm tempted, but have to factor in some sewing 
machine time to replace the pockets.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Invitation to Samuel P. Taylor Bike Camping (Sat Feb 4 to Sun Feb 5)

[BSWP]

Thanks for the heads up, and I replied on the BARR group. It will be fun to 
see Riv folk on the year's first campout. Debating whether to ride the 
LongLow or the QuickBeam... that hill past Fairfax... oof!

- Andrew, Berkele

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[RBW] Re: Riv riders in Richmond today (MLK Rich City Ride)

[BSWP]

Najari! Your team puts on a very good ride, rolling soundtrack included. I 
was glad to help out with blocking intersections, and talk with people 
while we rode... smiles everywhere! I turned out with Outdoor Afro, 
actually, and look forward to joining you on more rides this year.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 4:35:12 PM UTC-8, Rich City Rides wrote:
>
> Hey, I'm Najari from Rich City Rides. I'm really happy to have you group 
> join us! We welcome you to follow us on Facebook here: 
> https://www.facebook.com/rich.cityrides/ and twitter: 
> https://twitter.com/Rich_rides or even IG: 
> https://www.instagram.com/richcityrides/
>
> Just so you know, we had a total of 75 cyclist!! AND we're glad your group 
> were among them.
>
> On Monday, January 16, 2017 at 7:06:39 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> It was a treat not only to see so many bicyclists turn out for the Rich 
>> City Rides event today (were we 70? 80?), but also to see so many Rivendell 
>> riders. A fun time, slow to get rolling like all rides, but good company 
>> and an especially important cause. Now more than ever... 
>> http://www.richcityrides.org/
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley (Orange QuickBeam)
>>
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[RBW] Riv riders in Richmond today (MLK Rich City Ride)

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It was a treat not only to see so many bicyclists turn out for the Rich 
City Rides event today (were we 70? 80?), but also to see so many Rivendell 
riders. A fun time, slow to get rolling like all rides, but good company 
and an especially important cause. Now more than ever... 
http://www.richcityrides.org/

- Andrew, Berkeley (Orange QuickBeam)

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[RBW] Re: Spyshots of my custom mixte - happy days

[BSWP]

It's great that RBW is making brazed-on centerpulls am option for more 
frames. Whether Mafac RAID, Compass RAIID, or Paul, it's a brilliant and 
clean design.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 8:51:54 AM UTC-8, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Paul Racers
>
> On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 10:44:46 AM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> What brakes will you be using?
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 11:36:11 AM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark at Rivendell was kind enough to shoot a few pics of my custom in 
>>> progress. Inside shots but the color looks  like it turned out as I hoped
>>>
>>> Hopefully you can view these. 
>>>
>>> Happy new year , everyone !
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam: A Three Year Retrospective

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I've had my QuickBean loaded for light camping (EntMoot!) and it rode like 
a champ, from SF Ferry building, up over the bridge, through Marin hills, 
to campsite, and back. It challenges me to be extra fit, and that's a good 
thing, I don't mind at all. It truly is a state of mind one adopts, when 
going out with just one, or maybe two, gears... but many speeds :-)

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Black and Cream Color Scheme

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YES! A beautiful example, and not just the colors, thank you. (And 
apologies for the thread hijack)

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-8, M D Smith wrote:
>
> Andrew asked:
>
> "... can anyone point to good examples of super dark frames (black, or 
> deepest green, say) that had both cream head tubes AND cream seat tubes?" 
>
> To which I reply:
>
> I've always liked this bike, back from my days on the iBOB list.  It's 
> maroon, so maybe not as dark as you are thinking, but a real stunner:
>
> 
>
> Cherrs- Mike in Bklyn, NY
>
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[RBW] Re: Black and Cream Color Scheme

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Thanks, and it's similar to this Nishiki restoration, but the white fork is 
vomit-inducing, no thanks.

http://johns-recycled-bicycle.blogspot.com/2015/01/1988-nishiki-olympic-restoration.html

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:47:34 PM UTC-8, Jack Barnes wrote:
>
> Andrew, maybe something like the Nishiki in this thread?
>
> http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-bicycles-whats-worth-appraisals-inquiries/767536-vintage-nishiki-road-bike.html
> (white instead of cream, but same idea)
>
> The white fork probably isn't what you had in mind though.
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 8:16:30 PM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of colour schema, if I may ask a diverting question... can 
>> anyone point to good examples of super dark frames (black, or deepest 
>> green, say) that had both cream head tubes AND cream seat tubes? I would 
>> love to see an example, helping me visualize a potential format for a new 
>> frame.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Black and Cream Color Scheme

[BSWP]

Speaking of colour schema, if I may ask a diverting question... can anyone 
point to good examples of super dark frames (black, or deepest green, say) 
that had both cream head tubes AND cream seat tubes? I would love to see an 
example, helping me visualize a potential format for a new frame.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700x44

[BSWP]

I think they would. I have Soma C-Lines on my QuickBeam, and they're fine, 
plenty clearance, a true 38mm. I had tried BG Rock-n-Roads, and they just 
barely fit, at 43mm. Given the Snoqualmies are showing as 42mm, you could 
fit them, but with almost no margin for rim wobble.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 2:52:47 PM UTC-8, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Will these fit on a Quickbeam? I'm still using the stock rims (green, 
> 2004). I put a set of the 38 Compass tires on this summer and love them but 
> would like a bit more width if possible. I didn't see these when I got 
> mine. 
>
> B 
> Indy

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[RBW] Re: Compass Snoqualmie Pass 700x44

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We'll see. Mine are measuring at 42.1mm wide, on Velocity Dyad 700c rims. 
On the same rims, my Soma C-lines are dead-on 38mm. I'm not complaining, 
just reporting.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 4:05:25 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> if they're loke all good supple tires, they will stretch
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 9:27:29 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>> These measure a good deal under size. 40.3 mm on my Velocity Atlas Rims 
>> with tubes. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Albastache on what frame?

[BSWP]

Thanks for sharing the riding impression, from a year's experiences. I rode 
M'bars for over a decade, and was used to the brakes "way out there" I'm 
thinking on the wider, flatter, and closer A'stache (A'bars?), I'm going to 
bring the brakes back from the front tangent point, for easier reach while 
in the relaxed position. I'll get a fresh pair of interrupeurs, just to 
play with, but think they could work well on the straight section of the 
A'bars between the first and second curves from the stem. We'll see, and as 
to weight... heck, this new frame already has a diagatube, a front 
wide-body SON, top bag rack, low-rider racks, AND a boat-anchor Rohloff 
hub... :--)

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 7:25:26 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I had thought to add interrupters when I purchased my Albastache bars 
> about a year or so ago.  Keven said that he didn't see the point.  He said 
> it was very easy to quickly slide your hands forward to the brakes when you 
> need them.  I still thought about that option when I first got them but, 
> after riding them for this long, I see his point.  I don't think they'd add 
> much more than weight and complexity.  However, I think I remember you 
> saying you were doored once.   Had that happened to me, I guess I would 
> consider the interrupters a little more seriously.
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 11:25:06 AM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> On the topic of Albastaches, have any set them up with interruptors, 
>> either in addition or solely? I'm looking for alternative placements from 
>> what the Tiagra levers provide.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Albastache on what frame?

[BSWP]

On the topic of Albastaches, have any set them up with interruptors, either 
in addition or solely? I'm looking for alternative placements from what the 
Tiagra levers provide.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: MUSA? Completely gone? Coming back?

[BSWP]

I have worn out two pair of MUSA shorts, have one spare on hand, and wish I 
could get more. I have a pair of MUSA pants, and long for knickers. I wear 
size L, which quickly sells out, alas. But I do look forward to the next 
run of 80 pants, and will jump when they're offered. Oh, and the thin 
woolies... sigh! There's just nothing to compare, in my opinion, for 
cycling or backpacking.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I just referred someone to MUSA shorts on another forum - now I can't find 
> even knickers on Rivbike?  
> What's us?  
>

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[RBW] Fabricated floor-to-ceiling repair stand

[BSWP]

After using a proper bicycle work stand a few weeks ago, I knew I needed to 
get one for home. But I can't stand wobbly or tip-overy stands, and have no 
location in my basement shop for a permanent wall attachment. So I made an 
expanding vertical pole mount that goes from the basement floor to the 
ceiling, it uses a scaffold screw jack for compression, and a length of 2x2 
signpost. The holes in the post perfectly aligned with the Park wall-mount 
clamp. I machined a big brass bushing to slip between screw and pole, but 
it would probably have worked fine with just a whopping big washer, too. It 
works great! No wobble, no rotation, just dead-solid fixture.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/albums/72157677333587146

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Compass Guide to

[BSWP]

I built my new wheel with a SON wide-body, there was just no other choice, 
in my opinion, for the strongest wheel.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 7:58:59 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote:
>
> We get a lot of questions about how the various models of SON generator 
> hubs are different, and which is best for a certain application. So I wrote 
> a short guide to the most commonly used SON hubs:
>
> https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/12/02/guide-to-generator-hubs/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Jan Heine
> Compass Cycles
> www.compasscycle.com
>

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[RBW] Re: moustache or Albastache bars on a Legolas?

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For all running and liking Albastaches, have any tried them upside-down? 
That is, with "rise" instead of drop? I tried that with older M'bars, and 
didn't like the brake lever options. But maybe the new bars are more 
amenable?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Sugino XD crankarms only

[BSWP]

Really, the RD cranks are of inferior quality? Can anyone else comment on 
that? I have been looking to RD for my new IGH build, need only a single 
chainring and not needing a protector ring. Plus, I need a 54mm chainline.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 10:35:26 AM UTC-8, Jack Doran wrote:
>
> I love Sugino cranks but man trying to get a run down on what's what from 
> that company will drive you to drink.
>
> As far as I know, the XD2 (also called the XD Pro, I believe, and have the 
> Sugino crown logo) only come already set up as a double or triple. The RD 
> usually comes as a single and is less expensive, but I think I've seen just 
> the arms for sale. I believe the RD cranks are melt forged, which makes for 
> a slightly lower quality aluminum. This is totally anecdotal, but I rode an 
> RD for a year as a SS and the spider kept getting slightly out of true 
> until I just gave up on them and went with something else.
>
> The photo on the Outside Outfitters page advertising XD cranks looks like 
> an RD or Alpina to me, but it's possible they're using an incorrect stock 
> photo and it's an XD after all since they list the correct BCD's on the 
> double and triple.*
>
> Finally, there is the Mighty Tour, which is available to purchase with 
> just the arms, but which is Sugino's most expensive offering (not such a 
> great deal now that the Yen has picked up). I imagine it's because they are 
> made of 2000 aluminum, which is light and super durable. 
> https://alexscycle.com/products/sugino-mighty-tour-pcd110-crank-1
>
> **A warning about Outside Outfitters. I've tried to purchase products 
> from them on several different occasions only to be told that the items are 
> out of stock. The problem is that they charge you at the time of purchase 
> instead of when they ship it out, and I had to wait nearly two months after 
> hounding them with phone calls and emails to get my money back.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

[BSWP]

Yes. It's working now, for me, on Firefox. Instead of deleting cookies, I 
think I'll bake some for the road.

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:25:17 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I opened the link with the intention of trying the directions below.  Low 
> and behold after three days of trying the site it opened before I needed to 
> try anything else.  I'm guessing someone at HQ found the source of our 
> problem and fixed it.
>
> Michael
>
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[RBW] Re: Hub Area Rack with Swift MIni Short Stack Panniers (or other bags)?

[BSWP]

Thanks for confirmation, on Ortlieb "front" bags fitting on the HARs. Did 
you mean the ones that are listed as 25 liter volume, 12 x 10 x 5.5 inches?

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 11:32:50 AM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:
>
> They work fine with Ortlieb front roller bags. I was considering a pair of 
> Swift mini rollers so that's kind of a bummer…wonder if the optional Arkel 
> attachment would make it more workable.
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 1:25:24 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:
>>
>> Alright, for anyone else who is interested, I called Rivendell and they 
>> said that the Swift bags would work if you got 'creative', I didn't get any 
>> further clarification on what that meant. Talked to Swift, they said that 
>> it wouldn't work due to 1. the bottom hook not having anything to keep it 
>> in place (though they recommended zip tying a tube to the rack to hold it 
>> in place as a fix) and 2. the top hook wouldn't fit on the area near the 
>> mount, the fork is in the way. I think I read something about someone 
>> redoing the spacing to make that work.
>>
>> Anyone have experience with other panniers on the HAR? I want to be able 
>> to remove it quickly and like having a strap on top to carry it with.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 6:54:45 PM UTC-7, DS wrote:
>>>
>>> Scratch that, I meant the Jr. Ranger Pannier. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 4:31:35 PM UTC-7, DS wrote:

 Anyone use the HAR with other front panniers, or specifically the mini 
 short stacks from swift? Do they fit or did you need to do anything 
 creative to make them work? 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of Fenders

[BSWP]

My new Riv-ish frame is going to sport Mafac RAIDs, with brazed posts on 
forks and seatstays, and I'll be running Compass 700c x 44mm tires, 
planning to use 52mm VO Zepplelins. I think I can live with the nominal 8mm 
over-coverage from that combo. I'll report back with impressions and 
images, but from all the Flickr pictures I've managed to find, those RAIDs 
can swallow quite wide tires and fenders.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: End of the rainbow

[BSWP]

The ones we have are 700x35 Panaracer Paselas, but branded as RBW 
SpeedBlends, with "checkerboard" colour patterns:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/29888041973/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/29888041333/in/dateposted-public/

Yes, we're sad to see them go, but the sidewalls were deteriorating, and I 
won't risk her being stuck with another blowout that fresh tires might 
prevent. And the Soma C-Lines (another Panaracer Pasela tread tire) look 
pretty good on her black XO-5 with brown Brooks spring saddle.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/30222733150/in/dateposted-public/

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] End of the rainbow

[BSWP]

My wife has been running RBW speedblends on her B'Stone XO-5 for several 
years, the tires came to me when I bought the 66cm QuickBeam, and had not 
been sold by Riv for a long time. She got nothing but positive comments on 
them, and it was always fun watching them "pulse" while riding alongside 
her. Alas, today, the rear breathed its last, and exhaled, loudly, so 
loudly that the crew at Hank & Frank & YankYerChain on College came running 
out to see what the noise was. I cannot save them, not even with a dollar 
bill rolled into the tire, so she's now on a fresh set of 38mm Soma C-Lines 
and fresh tubes. 

Thank you, dear SpeedBlends, it's been swell: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclemoss/30499563285/in/dateposted-public/

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyad/Aerohead vs Atlas

[BSWP]

Mark, it's a Riv-inspired frame being built as a collaboration with a 
friend of mine in Portland... it will be tall, and have an upward-sloping 
TT, a diagatube, long-ish chainstays (19-inch), and built around Rohloff 
IGH rear and dyno front hubs. A re-raked RBW fork, and planning to carry 
majority of camping load up front in panniers and top box/sack. We're going 
to do some interesting things with internal wiring for lights, and as I 
said, it's being built around 700c wheels and minimum width 38m tires. Here 
are some pictures of the work in progress:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/115397703@N04/albums/72157670612977512

Oh, we're also going to run RAID centerpulls with modern bushings and 
salmon pads.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 9:35:06 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> I wouldn't worry about rolling the tires off the rims. My Atlantis has 
> Dyad's and I've ridden up to 2.25 tires and pretty low pressure, never had 
> an issue. Currently running 38mm Barlow Pass tires, desperately trying to 
> wear them out so I can justify the 44mm tires :)
>
> I've also run similar tire setups on HPlusSon TB14 (basically a 23mm wide 
> box section rim) and Archetype rims, never rolled a tire. Even on Mavic 
> Open Pro rims I have had good luck running 32 Challenge Grifo tires for CX 
> races, down to 28 psi, and never rolled a tire.
>
> What frame are you building up??
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Reed Kennedy <re...@notfine.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> Why not consider the A23? I consider it rather the best of all worlds. 
>> Plus it's available OC (if that's your thing) and you have the option of 
>> going tubeless if you ever decide to give that a try.
>>
>> I've got Atlas on my Hunq and A23 on my MAP. My next wheelset will be 
>> another with A23s in 650B.
>>
>>
>> Reed
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 7:14 PM, BSWP <asht...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm getting a new frame built up, it's designed for wide tires, and will 
>>> never see less than 38mm Soma C-Lines, but will start off with those lovely 
>>> new 44mm 700c Compass Snoquamie Pass gumwalls. The Velocity Page shows me 
>>> that Dyads are 24mm external and 18.6mm internal, and have 525g mass, while 
>>> Atlas are 25.4mm external and 19.8mm internal, with 620g mass. 
>>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims#models-tab
>>>
>>> My main concern is tires rolling off the rim, but I think I'll take the 
>>> 100g savings and stick with Dyads, they have been so nice on the QuickBeam, 
>>> running Soma C-Lines.
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyad/Aerohead vs Atlas

[BSWP]

I'm getting a new frame built up, it's designed for wide tires, and will 
never see less than 38mm Soma C-Lines, but will start off with those lovely 
new 44mm 700c Compass Snoquamie Pass gumwalls. The Velocity Page shows me 
that Dyads are 24mm external and 18.6mm internal, and have 525g mass, while 
Atlas are 25.4mm external and 19.8mm internal, with 620g mass. 
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims#models-tab

My main concern is tires rolling off the rim, but I think I'll take the 
100g savings and stick with Dyads, they have been so nice on the QuickBeam, 
running Soma C-Lines.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Spikes, Pedals, Shins

[BSWP]

I have Thin Gripsters on both Rivs, and supplement them with wide (& 
reflective!) velcro retention straps. The straps give me extra lateral 
support on long rides, I don't "pull up" on them at all. Sure, I have a few 
scrapes over the years, but I would not say the setup is prone to mangling 
my flesh... no more so that chains and sprockets are prone to shredding 
fingers. Maybe what helps them work for me are flat-soled shoes, no tread 
at all, just thin and flat.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Getting the Quickbeam's chainline perfect!!

[BSWP]

The crank arm presents challenges for turning the spindle area on a lathe. 
Long radius, and off-center mass. I would mount it to a rotary table, then 
spin the crank against an end mill.

- Andrew, my basement overflows with tools, Berkeley

On Friday, May 20, 2016 at 11:27:20 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Did you use the mill or the lathe?  Both present their own challenges in 
> set-up I'd imagine.  The lathe would let you take a pass at an angle, 
> making it kind of conical.  Then you fit inside the BB while maintaining 
> the surface engagement between crank arm and spindle.  With the mill you're 
> more likely just going to face it flat, which might make you a little more 
> nervous.  Even if something did fail I would not expect it to be 
> catastrophic.  I say go for it, either way. 
>
> Bill
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Talk to me about bottom brackets

[BSWP]

I have a Phil BB in my '98 LongLow, and I have not paid it any attention in 
all these years and miles. I'm heavy (230 pounds wet) and tall, so a lot of 
torque passes through the cranks (Ritchey Logic) and the BB, and both have 
been rock solid for 17 years now. Would a cheaper BB have failed by now? I 
dunno... but it spins smooth and I don't think I need to worry about it.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[BSWP]

My '98 LongLow seems to attract people looking for mustard... specifically, 
Grey Poupon. I have no idea why.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Seeking advice on embellishing a Nitto Long Boy rack

[BSWP]

Add mine to the voices for keeping straps up top. And it's so easy/cheap to 
make strong secure adjustable straps yourself... get some 3/4 inch flat 
webbing, and a single plastic loop tab adjuster. Pass a bit of the webbing 
through the tab adjuster, sew/stitch/knot it to itself, and you are set.

http://www.strapworks.com/Plastic_Strap_Adjusters_p/psa.htm

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Very clever video

[BSWP]

It's hardly very funny, and it's definitely dangerous. There are plenty 
enough people out there who harbor ill-will toward cyclists, and scenes 
like those in the vid only serve to legitimize violence against bicyclists. 

And it has nothing at all to do with RBW or its bicycles.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 12:59:08 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> I'm glad I did my brevet series in the Northeast last year instead of the 
> Wild, Wild West!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPUe80oBZw
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Joe Appaloosa Cockpit

[BSWP]

Huh... and I thought the typo was the "ribber" grips. But even at $140, 
that's a heckuva deal. My wife's X0-5 might be a candidate... hmmm...

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 4:44:45 PM UTC-7, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>
> It has been pointed out to me that there is a typo in the price I listed 
> for the Appaloosa cockpit (no wonder I got so many responses! and so fast!) 
> The deal is $140, not $40.
>
> Sorry. Anyone who's responded, I'm "desolee" and ask your forgiveness!
>
> Rich
>
> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 2:00:04 PM UTC-7, Rich Lesnik wrote:
>>
>> Includes "Bullmoose Choco" bar, ribber grips, mtb brake levers, sunrace 
>> thumb shifters. Asking $40 or best offer. Local Bay Area preferred 
>> (shipping could get tricky). Contact me offline at: 
>> rle...@handsonwheels.com 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best advice for securing bikes in a garage

[BSWP]

I have the same situation as you.

Get a loud alarm for the detached garage, as well as the house. 
Motion-triggered and door triggered.
Secure your bikes, when inside the locked garage, to an eyebolt set into 
the concrete floor, or some other immovable object. 
Consider also throwing an old stained tarpaulin over them, to mask their 
existence.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: New Panaracer-made 700c x 50 tire?

[BSWP]

Comment from "Allan" that made me smile:

"I’m starting to come around on the gumwall look. At first I thought these 
tires were reserved for Rivendells with full racks, fenders, and Acorn 
saddlebags. But even some of the latest carbon road bikes I’ve seen with 
these tires look ok. I guess as long as the sidewall doesn’t start to 
yellow and crack, it looks ok."

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 10:53:31 AM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
>
> http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/03/18/tpe16-skinwalls-are-back-vee-tire-co-and-panaracer-add-more-to-the-mix/
> Very bottom of that link. Panaracer Gravel King slick & SK in 700 x 52.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 11:21:21 AM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> Very recently I read about a new tire that was along the lines of a 
>> Compass/Pasela tire and it was 700c x 50 or more.  It was definately made 
>> by Panaracer because I remember wondering the fact that they are doing a 
>> 700c x 50 tire would influence Jan Heine to move in that direction.  I 
>> can't find where I read about that tire and I don't know if it was here or 
>> another forum I frequent.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>>
>

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[RBW] Appaloosas set free

[BSWP]

The rrumoured freeing of the Appaloosas has happened, in a limited fashion. 
Three of each colour/size can be had as F Tempting...

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: 50 t rear cog -- Never walk another hill

[BSWP]

Makes the Rohloff IGH all the moar attractive, in my opinion.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: How many 68cm Quickbeams were made?

[BSWP]

No orange 68cm QuickBeams? Are you certain?

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:49:24 PM UTC-7, Kainalu wrote:
>
> Wondering if anyone knows how many 68cm Quickbeams were made in total. I 
> know they're all dark green and that there were no more than 200 of the 
> green frames in total. 
> I assume there are many more 58s than 68s due to demand. Just curious and 
> I've bugged Riv enough lately to not want to ask too many dumb questions of 
> the source.
> Thanks
> -Kai
> Brooklyn, NY
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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Pedals -- Identified

[BSWP]

Thanks for confirming, Bill, that's good news for us retentionistas.

On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 8:25:06 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The pedal bodies ARE slotted.  You could run a strap for retention if you 
> were so inclined

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Pedals -- Identified

[BSWP]

Do the horizontal slots in the pedals run all the way through, on both 
sides of the axle? I ask, wondering whether velcro retention straps or 
similar will fit these.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> On my separate Appaloosa thread, a couple people asked about the pedals. 
>  I speculated that they might be Wellgo.  I knew I had seen the wavy logo 
> preceding the K926 model number.  It was NOT A Wellgo logo.  It was a 
> Victor logo  (VP).  I've found the model, and it is called the VP Push N2.  
>
> http://www.vp-usa.com/vp-push-n2/
>
> Looks like the going online price is $60, which I guess explains why I 
> thought it was so nice.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

[BSWP]

Wow! That is going to be the most awesome event on the slopes of Mount 
Tamalpais in decades... 

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

[BSWP]

Rene, have you ever used interrupter levers? To my eye, your cockpit would 
perfection if you could also brake while up on the flats. I might try 
something similar on the QuickBeam, though with a shorter extension. Thanks 
for sharing the update.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: "Store Credit" on BLUG

[BSWP]

The notice was removed... so have all five slots been taken? Cool.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, February 24, 2016 at 3:49:08 PM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Wow! 3 people already did it.
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Reach and extension for stems at RBW

[BSWP]

Ah, so an 8cm Nitto Lugged stem will be 8cm from the center of the quill to 
the center of the handlebar clamp, as measured through the center of the 
stem extension. Not 8cm perpendicular to center of quill. Thanks!

- Andrew

On Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 11:22:18 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The standard measurement for stem length is the actual number from center 
> of quill (fork for threadless) to center of clamp. No website that I'm 
> familiar with lists a virtual reach number. 

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[RBW] Reach and extension for stems at RBW

[BSWP]

Does anyone know how the stem sizes Riv lists correspond to actual reach 
and extension? I want to try a stem with less forward reach, and the 
descriptions don't indicate how this is measured, or if the sizes listed 
are for horizontal reach or absolute extension. This link is useful, even 
if for threadless stems. I wish RBW had something similar:

http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html

Sheldon has good commentary on stems:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: suspicious Cheviot on Bay Area CL

[BSWP]

Huh, poster says they "ride it" but no pedals or seat in the pictures. 
What's that sticker with number below seat clamp, was it registered 
somewhere?

Agree, suspicious.

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 8:38:23 PM UTC-8, Kurt Manley wrote:
>
> $700, Listed on CL in 2 cites far apart. Possibly legit but if you are 
> missing a Cheviot you might want to take a look.
>
> https://modesto.craigslist.org/bik/5454135931.html
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[RBW] Re: Check out this nice 31.8 downtube shifter boss clamp with Silver shifters.

[BSWP]

Sorry, I meant head tube, which is part of the frame. Not the steering 
tube, which is part of the fork!

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:19:13 AM UTC-8, BSWP wrote:
>
> Very nice. It makes me wonder, have riders ever put shifters on the 
> steering tube? So a little higher than the down tube, but not as high as 
> mounted on the stem. Us long tall folks might find that a more convenient 
> placement. I will check if this kit would work for that.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:00:55 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> It is a VIA DT shifter clamp with Silver DT shifters pictured.
>> Got the shifters from Rivendell.
>> Got it from an online British bike shop. Comes with a shim for slimmer 
>> downtubed bikes. Total with shipping I think was 26$US or something like 
>> that iirc. http://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/via-downtube-shifter-mount
>>
>> Note that Riv stop tab washer and also shimano bar end spacer do not 
>> work great on the bosses and the bosses are too long/high/tall for the Riv 
>> stop tab DT washers. I tried with 2 tab washers - bosses still too tall, 3 
>> - too much washer, shifters won't stay on. Not enough purchase for the 
>> d-ring threads.
>>
>> I might try running it with just the internal washer just butted up 
>> against bosses as you can see in the close up pic. Everything seems to move 
>> nicely. Looks pretty.
>>
>> Anyway, if it works this would be a cool boss clamp to use with Silvers, 
>> for those with a bike that doesn't have dt boss braze ons. I'll update.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Check out this nice 31.8 downtube shifter boss clamp with Silver shifters.

[BSWP]

Very nice. It makes me wonder, have riders ever put shifters on the 
steering tube? So a little higher than the down tube, but not as high as 
mounted on the stem. Us long tall folks might find that a more convenient 
placement. I will check if this kit would work for that.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 11:00:55 AM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> It is a VIA DT shifter clamp with Silver DT shifters pictured.
> Got the shifters from Rivendell.
> Got it from an online British bike shop. Comes with a shim for slimmer 
> downtubed bikes. Total with shipping I think was 26$US or something like 
> that iirc. http://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/via-downtube-shifter-mount
>
> Note that Riv stop tab washer and also shimano bar end spacer do not 
> work great on the bosses and the bosses are too long/high/tall for the Riv 
> stop tab DT washers. I tried with 2 tab washers - bosses still too tall, 3 
> - too much washer, shifters won't stay on. Not enough purchase for the 
> d-ring threads.
>
> I might try running it with just the internal washer just butted up 
> against bosses as you can see in the close up pic. Everything seems to move 
> nicely. Looks pretty.
>
> Anyway, if it works this would be a cool boss clamp to use with Silvers, 
> for those with a bike that doesn't have dt boss braze ons. I'll update.
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW and Meaning

[BSWP]

John, I stumbled onto RBW when I saw a Moustache bar, and mounted it to my 
REI Novara XR back in the last century. The bike was woefully under-sized 
for me, but the bars transformed it. After I won an insurance settlement 
for being doored on my also too-small Centurion (lugged steel!) in West 
Berkeley, I took a wild chance and put all the money into a custom-fitted 
frame from Rivendell. That's my 65cm 1998 Long Low Custom. Grant worked 
with me, selected tubing and specified dimensions, and the bike rode and 
continues to ride wonderfully.

But why Riv? The early catalogues & Readers spoke to me at an intrinsic 
level... here was a "bike shop" that could build a frame to my exact size, 
weight, and riding style, that used old-school techniques, that would 
produce something beautiful and lasting. Also something quite distinct from 
the average road bikes in other shops. A bike to be proud of, to show off 
(a bit), and to ride without ever a doubt to its proper fit. Everything 
about the shop, the process, the product line, resonated with me. I plunked 
down the money for a "life" membership/subscription, wanting to help them 
continue and thrive.

And I continue to be a fan (even if we won't ever see an IGH Riv) because 
the design lines, the flow of tubes & lugs, speak to what attracts me to 
bicycles - having fun, riding smoothly, traveling long and wide and far. I 
avoid using the word "retro" when I describe RBW's bikes, because they are 
staking out respectable modern territory, they are not just a throwback to 
a past time.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: what bolts?

[BSWP]

I don't worry about securing seat or stem while riding my Riv. But I do 
when it's parked outside a store or cafe... a thief wearing wool knickers 
and carrying Allen wrenches would look right at home whilst dismantling my 
bike.

I like the ball bearing wedged into the bolt head approach, just be sure to 
carry a steel pick to pry it out of you need to adjust while on the road. I 
put the bicyclebolts items on my wife's XO-5, and they seem to work fine as 
reliable fasteners.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: The order, now the wait....

[BSWP]

I did not know that Atlanti could be had with 2TT! The website does not 
show this, maybe it was covered in a Blug somewhere back in time. Cool, 
anyway.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 8:06:41 AM UTC-8, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> I recently ordered a 64 Atlantis, double top tuber :)  Now, I just have to 
> wait...
>
> Plenty of time to decide on selling the Sam as whole or part out the parts 
> for use on the Atlantis. Well, I'll need canti's for the Atlantis.
>
>
> CHEERS!
> Wallyh
>
>
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Re: [RBW] The joys of modern lighting... we've come a long way!

[BSWP]

EFZ. I use lights to show up the potholes and dead skunks, not so much to 
help the cagers see me.

Just back from Portland, where every other rig seems to be a HID 
hub-powered coastal lighthouse beacon.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 7:18:06 PM UTC-8, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> If they can't see me they can't hit me. There is a reason the army wears 
> camo and ninjas dress in black.
>
> Clayton Scott
> SF, CA
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[RBW] Re: Rivelo

[BSWP]

I was there on Sunday, bought a head badge. Got the news about the MUSA 
line being dropped, too. A nice shop, I hope he makes a good go of it. 
Portland is able to support so many bike shoppes because so many are riding 
up there. Great town to ride in!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 4:09:15 PM UTC-8, Evan Baird wrote:
>
> Stopped off Rivelo when I was up north. Very nice space.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BBgDMC-ItSU/
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blug, MUSA clothing, and Crapmanship

[BSWP]

I am sad to learn that Riv is holding off on restocking MUSA gear, and 
alas, all items in my size are sold out. My thin wool tops and shorts are a 
mainstay of my riding. When they eventually wear out, I doubt I'll be able 
find similar to replace them with. The fact that the items were made 
locally matters a lot to me, as well, they fit and perform to my 
satisfaction.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Crankin' through the snow...

[BSWP]

Sorry Patrick, I was making an obscure reference to a topical development 
in international cylocross competition. A Belgian woman is suspected of 
racing a bicycle fitted with an electric motor in its bottom bracket. Many 
news sources covering it. Also in today's BikeSnobNYC post.

And no, I'm not a fan of e-bikes. They're just a new form of motorized 
transport.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 12:19:51 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Andrew, what's a Belgian BB and how would it help overcome rear wheel 
> inertia due to snowpack? 
>
> The vast majority of inertia was from the snow on the ground. When I was 
> on plowed road, the riding was easy.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 1:06:41 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> That snow looks pretty well packed into the rear wheel. I wonder if a 
>> Belgian Bottom Bracket would help overcome the added inertia?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Crankin' through the snow...

[BSWP]

That snow looks pretty well packed into the rear wheel. I wonder if a 
Belgian Bottom Bracket would help overcome the added inertia?

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 10:21:55 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> What a hoot! You know you're in for a crank uphill and home when the 
> downhill is work. Grin.
>
>
> https://medium.com/@DeaconPatrick/crankin-through-the-snow-7b5d604fd629#.2qin52orq
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Albatross vs Choco bar (A photo comparison)

[BSWP]

I call it the Choco-stache, a further iteration of the Moustache bar.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, February 1, 2016 at 6:48:19 PM UTC-8, Casey McMann wrote:
>
> I can post a picture of that tomorrow.

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[RBW] Re: cycling shoes

[BSWP]

Those look good. Do they have a website? Or just call 'em up for info?

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 8:14:55 AM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Not my style but Van Boven Shoes here in Ann Arbor sell a few models.
> https://www.instagram.com/p/672pOaCIgc/
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[RBW] Re: joe appaloosa photos

[BSWP]

I must have arrived at RBW just after you. I took a 62 Hunq out for a spin, 
it's quite different from my '98 LongLow, very stable and slow to tip. But 
I want to try a 62 Joe, too, when they're here for test rides. Those 
Choco-staches look like they would take a set of interrupter levers just 
fine.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:30:50 PM UTC-8, Patrick D Kelly wrote:
>
> Went for a(nother) test ride on the Joe yesterday. It rained a bit, but 
> then the sun came out. Too bad I had to return it.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/sets/72157663735364022
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[RBW] Re: Society of Three Speeds membership kits on sale

[BSWP]

Speaking of three-speeds... this looks like a fun event, in Minnesota this 
coming summer:

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~steinborn/3speedtour.htm

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 9:19:23 AM UTC-8, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Hello Bunch,
>
> I know at least a few of you here are three speed owners and enthusiasts 
> on this list. And a few of you here are already members! But seeing Brad's 
> ACW post earlier reminded me that I should post here about the sale I'm 
> having on Society of Three Speeds membership kits. Until the end of this 
> month, they are only $7 in US, $11 in the rest of the world! (This is the 
> price with shipping included.)
>
> You can check it out and buy 'em here:
>
> http://urbanadventureleague.storenvy.com/products/14803074-society-of-three-speeds-membership-pack
>
> Happy Saturday!
> Shawn
>
> No one actually looks at email signatures anymore, but here goes nothing:
> http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/
> http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ 
> http://bikesspottedpdx.tumblr.com/
> Un-electronic mail goes here: P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Garbage Pail Riv sighted in Berkeley

[BSWP]

Oh, sorry if it was! I searched on the peterverdone link, and nothing came 
back up from this list. Just thought it was pretty funny trolling.

- Andrew

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 9:12:53 AM UTC-8, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> Seems to me this one was beaten to death in an earlier thread... but it's 
> got a certain zombie-like resilience...
>
> rod
>

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[RBW] Garbage Pail Riv sighted in Berkeley

[BSWP]

Humor is where you find it.

http://www.peterverdone.com/?p=7511

- Andrew "fresh Jack Browns", Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: The newest BLUG

[BSWP]

I know when I give a fin to a bum, it's probably going to booze. That's 
okay, I have no higher expectation, despite whatever line they pitched to 
me. When I've given warm clothes to shivering people, I had only the most 
minimal expectation that it might ease their discomfort for a night, 
perhaps longer if they had the sanity and means to hold onto the clothes. 
Those are interactions with individual fellow humans, who were in need. But 
I feel that money I give to established service and goods providing 
organizations is "better spent," in that it will provide benefits to those 
who are availing themselves of help, and those are folks most likely to 
emerge from whatever chronic situation made them needy. And that's what I 
most want to foster.

Just my own two inches of bar tape.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Sometimes a photo is better than a descriptive subject line.

[BSWP]

Congratulations, welcome back to riding!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 4:54:00 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yes, it's a selfie. But it's a selfie with Rizzo, my Betty Foy. I haven't 
> been able to ride in over a year, but the weather was so nice today (though 
> a bit chilly), I decided to take a chance to see how the new knee would 
> handle a short ride. I didn't go more than 4km from home, and I rode very 
> slowly, but the point is *I rode my bike*. 
>
> For Clayton and anyone else who's facing knee surgery (or any other kind 
> of surgery that's keeping you off the bike), I can only say DO IT. The 
> recovery won't be easy, but the reward will be so great that they won't be 
> able to pry the smile off your face for weeks. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Blue Joe

[BSWP]

Colours aside, that 62cm 2TT really has it all coming together, perfect 
angles on the rear triangle.

- Andrew "maybe I can lose some weight?", Berkeley

On Tuesday, December 22, 2015 at 12:03:13 PM UTC-8, R Michaels wrote:
>
> I just saw a picture of the new blue sent by David at RBWHQ.  It's 
> different than the sample and IMO a nicer color.  The lighting is not that 
> great but hopefully we will be able to see it on the Blug real soon.
> R.
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe on the BLUG

[BSWP]

That's an excellent overview of the new model, highlighting its strengths 
and a few areas where one should look to an Atlantis or a Hunq for certain 
benefits, such as stouter tubes to support a rider heavier than 215 pounds, 
or more gear while touring. I look forward to trying a 62cm model when one 
comes through the shop. And good news - Frame & Fork will be available 
before summer!

- Andrew "215 pounds only on the very best of days", Berkeley

On Saturday, December 19, 2015 at 4:46:23 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> There's a thorough description of the Joe on the latest BLUG.  I 
> especially like the photo of the fist between the seat tube & the fender.  
> It also talks about where this bike fits into the line-up, between Sam & 
> Hunq, and differences with Atlantis.  Good stuff all around.  At $2,400 
> it's the deal of the yearand next year too.  
>
> dougP
>

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[RBW] OT - but MUSA, my Long Wool jacket quest

[BSWP]

I'm hoping fellow MUSA appreciators can help, I'm looking for a men's long 
(tall) wool jacket, trench coat or "driving" style, buttons or toggles, but 
made in USA, and not a double-breasted pea coat. Something suitable for 
outdoors winter memorials or walks along the cold river Charles in January. 
Any preferred sources?

- Andrew "shivering here", Berkeley

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[RBW] Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

[BSWP]

Wow, that's a helluva weighty hint Dave dropped today in the RBW Tumblr 
blug. Hilsen, Atlantis, and Hunq are all getting "longer" AND will now have 
limited upgrades/changes/customizations available. I like it! Go Riv!! 

Don't want a kickstand plate, and prefer a normal chainstay bridge? Done!
Prefer Mafac-RAID style centerpulls with brazed posts? Done!
Alternate colours? Done!

And if "longer" means both extended top tubes and a skosh more chainstay, 
well, that might be quite nice. I say let them try it, and if a rider 
really wants the older geometry, I'm sure those older models will be 
available (and now at a higher used price, perhaps). Or, a few years down 
the path, Riv might relax the lengths, we'll see. But I think the future 
looks BRIGHT, indeed, for new stock frames from RBW. Good on 'em for taking 
the risk to change up a bit.

- Andrew "still wishing for cleaner IGH support", Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[BSWP]

Folks, I kid you not:

"We at *Rivendell Ranch* love the *Appaloosa* though we work successfully 
with many other breeds. Our desire is to breed Appaloosas with the right 
temperment for the *Family*, *Amateur*, and *Non-pro* that have the 
conformation and athletic ability the *Professionals* will want to excel in 
endurance or up the levels at any sporthorse discipline. Our horses are 
very *friendly*, *willing*, and *learn quickly* in addition to being 
*competitive* in the show ring and out on trail." 

http://www.rivendellranch.com/

Who knew?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[BSWP]

Thanks, the crown is looking very very nice. Still, a shame that F won't 
be available for this model, at least for a very long time.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 4:50:51 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Dark Mustard / Butterscotch, it's all good.  Now you can see the new crown 
> on full display on the BLUG.  With the windows painted in, you can't tell 
> that they filled in that one cutout.  
>
> And the pre-sale is back on...
>

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[RBW] Re: taping that brake bridge

[BSWP]

Retroreflective brake bridge tape, of course! For the added night-time 
visibility.

- Andrew "I put it on wheels, too", Berkeley

On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:47:10 PM UTC-8, bo richardson wrote:
>
> i read "taping the brake bridge" and wondered why anyone would want to put
> tape on a brake bridge and what kind of tape...
>
> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 8:41:01 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:
>>
>> Last weekend I got my nerve up and took a drill and tap to the bottom of 
>> the brake bridge on my AHH.
>> So now my bridge has a threaded hole in it for fender mounting.
>> Best I can tell the bottom of the square in the middle of the bridge is 
>> about as thick as a thin nut. So I think there are enough threads there to 
>> do the job. Sadly my local hardware store doesn't stock stainless button 
>> head m5 bolts as short as I want so I had to cut some of one off so it 
>> wouldn't interfere with the brake mounting. I will probably shorten the 
>> bolt a bit more and move the fender closer to the bridge but for the moment 
>> the fender is on there and seems pretty good.
>> So yay.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[BSWP]

Does anyone know, was a 62cm Joe frame built up, that could be taken for a 
test ride? That would be fun.
But I'm still wrapping my head around the decision to block frame & fork 
sales. Just don't get it...

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Bartape, No Twine

[BSWP]

It'll probably be fine for a while, but the twine is also good for taking 
the abuse at the ends, besides holding down the tape from coming unstuck. 
Twine is easily removed and reapplied, preserving the tape, I happily wrap 
it on.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 4:03:50 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I just finished up some bars and I didn't have any twine on me. They look 
> so good I kind of don't want to twine them. With the heavy dose of shellac 
> I applied I'm guessing they will be fine? Anyone else do this?
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/34AxrtY1559FTN5H7
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[BSWP]

Those are Choco-staches, if you ask me. Just a further iteration on the 
'stache bars. And nothing wrong with that, at all. I bet they would be 
comfy with road levers up at the curves, and/or some interruptors close in 
to the center. 

Still on Joe, were frame specs ever posted up? I'm wondering what the 
chainstay length is, and the wheelbase on a 62cm frame. Thanks! Just 
curious, as I've been riding my QuickBeam with 45.5 cm from center of BB to 
center of rear axle, and it rides superbly.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 6:08:03 PM UTC-8, Patrick Kelly wrote:
>
> I went back to riv HQ today to try out the proto-joe. It's officially 
> a size too small for me, but it was fun to ride around. I took a bunch 
> of photos of the new bar, hoping to better show the shape. (All 
> uploaded, unedited, link below.) For myself, I expect I'll be mounting 
> the shifters and brakes further forward, and I'm not superkeen on the 
> grips. The bar tape was added last weekend by Grant. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlatphrog/albums/72157661494430745 
>
> I forgot to ask about the butterscotch/sky blue color samples. I 
> wanted to view them in person, but I completely forgot when I was at 
> the shop. Duh. 
>
> cheerios 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on Bosco Bars?

[BSWP]

Sweet! Interruptors and Horns, a very nice cockpit for every riding 
position and stance.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, November 13, 2015 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-8, jtallman wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> I have them on my bosco bars. I just used some Newbaum's bar tape to take 
> up the space and they have worked fine.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/e2PjbY
>
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 10:05:44 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking of putting Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on my 
>> Bosco Bars. Riv says that they don't fit Bosco's because the clamp diameter 
>> of the bars is 22.2mm and the Interrupter levers are designed for a 24.0 
>> clamp diameter bars. But...really? Can't I just add a wrap or two of 
>> friction tape to the bars before I put on the Tektro Brake RL720 
>> Interrupter Levers? What about just putting them on over the bar wrap? (I 
>> use shellacked Newbaums)
>>
>> Has anyone had success with the Tektro Brake RL720 Interrupter Levers on 
>> Bosco's? Are there other good interrupter levers that work with Bosco's?
>>
>> Doug
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[BSWP]

The fork crown has no bolts. There are some threaded holes which could 
accept bolts, to aid in the securing of a front rack, or other things one 
might dream up that need fixing to the crown.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 3:02:07 PM UTC-8, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> This is probably a silly question but those bolts on the fork crown...are 
> they there for mounting some of those front racks? I'm sure they're there 
> for a reason and I can't think what else it would be
>

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[RBW] Choco Bar question

[BSWP]

The new bar is shown using an exposed bolt head at the top of the stem. Is 
that by design, or perhaps just expediency in building up the sample bike? 
The other Bullmoose models all have a very clean recessed Allen bolt, which 
is preferable for many reasons. Aesthetics aside, the recessed bolt is less 
likely to scrape you or snag on things.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Practical water-resistance of Shopsacks?

[BSWP]

I have an untreated grid-grey shopsack for my medium Wald baskets. The rain 
comes right through eventually, so I carry an ultralight dry bag and put 
everything that needs to stay dry into it, and that seems to work fine.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Rohloff IGH Questions

[BSWP]

I continue to be drawn to a Rohloph IGH for a new bike. One aspect that 
slows me down is getting the OEM2 torque arm fixed to the frame. I much 
much much prefer a clean install over the unsightly long extension links 
that I see, strapped to the left chainstay on many installs. And I have no 
interest at all in those cast rear dropouts that have been promoted for the 
hubs (like from Paragon) - they just ruin the clean lines of a frame, IMHO. 
What I've seen, that looks like a great solution, is a bit of custom 
fabrication in the rear triangle to give the OEM2 torque arm a fixing 
point, as done here:

http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Framebuilding/Wetmorian11/i-T4DZ3pX

Has anyone else found a similar clean way to anchor the OEM2 arm?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[BSWP]

Thanks, Bill. I guess everybody in the biz must know that about the Rinko 
headsets! Sounds like a good innovation, to use cartridge bearings, and I 
guess it's fair to assume they're pre-greased.

- Andrew "why am I always the last to know?", Berkeley

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:43:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Those rinko headsets have a cartridge bearing that is sitting inside the 
> cups, similar, but not identical to Shimano.  With Shimanos, the cartridge 
> falls right out.  With 'normal' ball bearing headsets there's a ring with 
> ball bearings that you slather with grease and install.  The headset on 
> your Clem will have the cartridge bearings in there already.  That's why 
> there seemed to be a missing step.  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 1:49:19 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I noticed the same thing.  The bearing install was definitely skipped 
>> over.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
>>> there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[BSWP]

Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:06:19 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
> Supense is killing me...
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

[BSWP]

The new J-A looks great, so many nice details all worked out. I had been 
leaning to a custom, for touring, but finances have been tight, and so that 
project is delayed. Does anyone know if the Joe will be offered eventually 
as just frame & fork?

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Rivet Saddles

[BSWP]

I'll hazard a guess that most of us ride on leather saddles with rivets. 
For myself, I find them perfect for short and long rides, only problem is 
keeping them protected from soaking rain.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 1:20:04 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Anybody have any experience with them? Thoughts? 
>
> Thanks,
> D.
>

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