[RBW] Re: Torn hamstring rehab suggestions

[Eric Doelling]

Hi Ray 

"Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I could be doing or is this 
just how things go once you are in your 60s?"   I do! 

I am 65 and have suffered from torn hamstring for 10 years.  Historically 
PT did not help but I need to add that I was not the best patient.  Mine 
happens from cyclical efforts.  

I also tore my bicep a few months ago and since PT readily solved that 
problem ( back to pull ups and hanging) I gave him my hamstring to try.  I 
am encouraged with the improvements.  My PT thinks outside the box and 
responds to my feedback.  I found most PT's just keep to the scripted 
course and that did mostly nothing for my hamstring.  

Whats working for me were some unusual SI joint stretches my PT performed 
on me and most of all I think is performing Nordic Curls.  I have my wife 
sit on my ankles while I am prone on the bed.  I do 2 sets of 15.  You need 
to be a little bit patient to gain strength to perform the curls better and 
better.  PT says the curls help to realign the fibers from the muscle 
tears.  I just purchased a bar from Amazon to hold my legs for the curls.  

Credit to Dave at https://www.precisionptw.com/

Eric


On Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 10:46:45 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> I’m not looking for medical advice. 
> I tore my femoral bicep a few months back. 
> I’ve had an MRI and seen an orthopedic surgeon. 
> The tear is in the muscle and not where it attaches to the bone so they 
> said it will heal on its own. 
> I see a physical therapist and I have been walking and doing light 
> cycling. 
> I know there are a lot of people here who have dealt with injuries and I’m 
> wondering if any of you have had a similar injury. 
> Mine is listed as a high grade tear. 
> It’s been over 4 months and I’m still not able to lift anything heavy 
> without putting a lot of strain on the muscle. 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I could be doing or is this 
> just how things go once you are in your 60s?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Pair Panaracer Gravelking 38 for sale, $90

[Eric Doelling]

sold, thanks everyone

On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-7 Eric Doelling wrote:

> new in July 2024
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me lighten up Sam

[Eric Marth]

Hi Bob — Here are my two shillings. I think your bike is set up very nicely 
with some carefully selected parts from heritage manufacturers. 
Everything's practical. With fenders, racks and dynamo your bike is quite 
versatile and has a timeless appeal. Capable bikes are often, by their 
nature, on the heavier side. 

Rather than making any changes, swaps or other modifications I'd suggest 
simply this: go on more overnight trips. 

Get your system dialed in as far as packing and what you absolutely need to 
bring. Weigh every item and get a tally of how much you're actually hauling 
and refine from there. The weight data will be helpful. The more you go, 
the more accustomed and conditioned you will become to carrying all your 
stuff. If you have time for another overnighter or two before your pending 
5-day tour it would be a good opportunity to further refine your rig. 

The only change I would encourage, as Bernard suggests above, is to 
consider lower gearing. I could have missed it but what size are the rings 
you have on your double? 

It kind of looks like you have an outer ring in the high 40s and a middle 
ring in the low 30s. You might do better with low 40s / high 20s combo. I 
personally do not care for triples or one-by systems. Sub compact doubles 
all the way! Just my personal preference. The double combinations that Riv 
offers are some good jumping off points for possible combinations (I'm not 
suggesting you need to buy a new crankset): 38x24, 42x28. With the XD2 
cranks you should have no trouble finding substitute chainrings at very 
nice prices. I run a 42x26 on my Hillborne and a 38x24 on my Appaloosa. 

I also don't see any specifications on your cassette, what's the range 
there? You might consider a cassette with a larger max cog like a 34t or 
36t. 

Let us know how things shake out, enjoy your pending tour and cheers to you 
on a nice looking Hillborne. 

Eric
On Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 6:44:27 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
wrote:

> I agree this summer  I ran a low-low compact double 42-26
>
> & 11-34 cassette  650b wheels 165 crankarm that’s 19 gear inches. 
>
> Even overloaded I walked no hills .
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'aeroperf' via RBW Owners Bunch  
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2024 4:31 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Help me lighten up Sam
>
>  
>
> Having toured extensively both with expedition loads and credit-card tour 
> loads, I’ll add one thing that Steve touched on up above.
>
>
>
> It may add weight, but go for a touring gear set up.  3x9.
> Something like a 46-36-26 for credit card tours and 44-32-22 for 
> expedition tours, with an 11-34 cassette.
> You want a low-low gear of about 20 gear inches.
> I used to blame the weight, or my legs, but correct gearing made a big 
> difference.
>
> The Erie Canal Bike Trail is a nice ride.  Enjoy!
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a very similar Masi, built in 1983 with Campy Super Record and then stored unridden until I bought it about a year and a half ago. Marvelous bike that is not very Riv-ish but nevertheless a joy to ride. –Eric NOn Jul 27, 2024, at 12:19 PM, Matthew Williams  wrote:Not a Rivendell, but this is too cool to not share:Masi Gran Criterium56cm$800San Francisco, CAhttps://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-masi-gran-criterium/7763679305.htmlIn “Breaking Away,” Dave Stoler rode a Masi GC. Here’s an article about someone who built one:https://www.ridemedia.com.au/retro-review-recreating-the-breaking-away-masi-bike/



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Re: [RBW] Re: Canadian's in the house

[Eric Floden]

My Bomba was built at Dream Cycles, many years ago

EricF
Near PTBO ON

On Wed, Jul 24, 2024, 12:02 Mackenzy Albright 
wrote:

> Bo - c is in Montreal and is a certified dealer / importer. You may have
> seen a riv being built at dream cycle on commercial. I saw a susie build
> there last winter. A few folks at kissing crows own and ride Rivs including
> a very instagram chic Toyo Atlantis.
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Re: [RBW] Nine is fine! 1x9 drivetrains in 2024. Who else is doing it?

[Eric Daume]

If you like nine, Box has entire drivetrains on sale for about $70:

https://boxcomponents.com/products/box-three-p9-wide-multi-shift-groupset

I picked one up for some indeterminate future project.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 3:04 PM Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it was Bike Snob NYC who said that a lot of the fun of riding a
> Rivendell is combining components that aren't meant to go together and
> seeing if they work. On my Rivendell I have a 1x9 drivetrain. I use a SRAM
> GX 10 speed clutch derailleur, Silver 1 shifter on a thumbie, a narrow-wide
> Wolftooth chainring, a 9 speed Connex chain, and a 34 toothed 9 speed
> cassette. It all works great.
>
> I was wondering what other 1x9 drivetrains people here are using, and if
> anyone has experience with any new 1x9 systems. Microshift, Shimano CUES,
> and Box components are all new options within the last few years. I'm also
> considering a SRAM GX Eagle crankset on my bike. Has anyone tried this with
> a 1x9?
>
> I am also interested in any high-end 9 speed cassettes (like SRAM's PG990,
> with an aluminum spider). Anyone holding a NOS one? SRAM has 10 speed
> cassettes that are very high end still available, and I might switch to one
> of those because of availability.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: Horses and Donkeys

[Eric Daume]

Sorry all, burro is already claimed for bikes. Here's an example I found:

https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1300949

Somehow, those fat 20" wheels don't look so odd anymore.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:44 AM Mike Rossi  wrote:

> I believe donkey and burro are the same animal. But, I like to think that
> a mule has better teeth as a fellow I know always greets me with, “there’s
> Smiley, grinning like a mule eating briars”.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 23, 2024, at 10:56 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> I think of burro as a small donkey, and I think of both of them being
> smarter, and more cautious than horses.  They are definitely cute.  Burros
> in particular can pull off a hat/bandanna ensemble that would knock your
> socks off.  IMO
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 6:50:57 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Is a burro prettier? Better teeth, perhaps? Donkey teeth is an insult,
>> probably.  I can be a burro.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2024, at 2:00 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> You've got more of a burro vibe, in my view of the universe.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 22, 2024 at 6:34:41 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just got back from northern Michigan’s Ride Around Torch Lake. Best
>>> tour I’ve done yet. So fun. So many riders. But again, back to square one
>>> with the prejudice when the hordes of stereotypical roadies see me on the
>>> tour. I giggled with my sister about some of it on the phone today.
>>>
>>>
>>> My sister said, I always think you’re riding a donkey. You have a
>>> donkey. Everyone is riding a horse and Leah brought a donkey! Donkeys are
>>> so powerful and you can saddle them with an incredible amount of weight.
>>> When you charge up hills, pull liters and liters of water out of your bag
>>> AND a change of clothes you know everyone with a horse is looking at you
>>> like you’re a loon. They are carrying one little bottle to keep their
>>> horses light and you’ve packed down your donkey. Everyone underestimates
>>> the donkey. I’m going to change your name in my phone to Donkey.
>>>
>>>
>>> There was one other donkey on the ride. I’ll send pics of both in the
>>> next post.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who else loves their donkey?!
>>>
>>> Leah
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[RBW] Pair Panaracer Gravelking 38 for sale, $90

[Eric Doelling]

new in July 2024
https://www.rivbike.com/products/zg645azzakjhseg-lka
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[RBW] Electric Bikes and Organized Rides

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

A friend and I did the Seattle to Portland ride this past weekend (205 miles in 
either one or two days), and we were both surprised to see a number of riders 
on electric bikes. 

I haven’t done many large cycling events since the rise in popularity of 
electric bikes. When I did large-scale rides like STP pre-COVID, everybody 
would have been on a regular, human-powered bike. So seeing powered bikes on a 
“cycling” event struck us as a little strange. 

What is everyone’s experience with this? I’ll admit I am a little skeptical 
about combining electric- and human-powered bikes in the same event, but that’s 
probably a reflection of my cycling history. The events I usually ride, which 
are mostly RUSA-sanctioned randonneuring, would definitely not allow any kind 
of powered bike.

What do YOU think? Should electric bikes be allowed on events like RAGBRAI, 
STP, centuries, etc.? What limits would you impose, if any? Or should they have 
their own events?

Interested to hear what the group thinks.

--Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] Your Riv's Next Upgades / Parts Swaps

[Eric Daume]

Or you could ride the good tires now and enjoy life. With any luck, the
sidewalls on the Fatty Rumpkins might degrade into an unridable state by
the time you get down to them.

Eric
Who deals with excess tires by selling them on bikes.

On Sunday, July 14, 2024, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The only thing I have going right now that is close to that is tires.
> I've got way WAY too many tires, and I refuse to sell used tires, and I
> refuse to throw away tires that have any life at all left in them.  -BUT- I
> love it when I use up a tire and am able to discard it.  I call that weird
> combination of neuroses "Minimalist Pack Rat". Anyway, part of my drive to
> reduce my huge inventory is to get rid of the worst tires, which means I'm
> trying to ride my worst tires the most.  Like the 650B Crust I rode today
> has a pair of Fatty Rumpkins on it.  I'd rather run Babyshoe Pass tires on
> that bike, but I'm not allowing that until I wear out some other tires.
> Tires these days last forever, though.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 12:52:11 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:
>
>> When building up a bike sometimes you make do with what you have on hand
>> already, or is readily available, or affordable.  Though in the back of
>> your mind you've already identified a replacement.
>>
>> I'm curious as to what parts on your current builds have you slotted for
>> eventual replacement at some time in the future?  What will you be
>> replacing it with?  Any dream parts in there, or just more functional or
>> comfortable choices?
>>
>> On my Roadini I'm really happy with the touch-points: saddle and seat
>> post, bars and tape, pedals; one of my wheel sets (with the 43mm tires);
>> the cages; brake levers, callipers, and DT shifters. The chain and cassette
>> are fine--and I want to stick with 11sp--but the crank and derailleurs are
>> on my list of upgrades/swaps (partially for aesthetics...would like silver,
>> partially for function as I would like a bit more great range on the low
>> end).  I would also like to replace the second wheel set that I use with
>> 30mm tires for road-only rides (to something lighter/faster).  I would also
>> change the housing (aesthetics, maybe green or grey), and the saddle bag.
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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer 2024 Photos

[Eric Marth]

@mwillrossi: I definitely feel you on the too hot, too humid front. Brutal 
here in Virginia 

@Nicholas: Dang, I love photos with rain in the distance, thanks for 
sharing this one!

On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 9:25:27 PM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:

> Can’t think of a more proper setting for an Atlantis in the wild.
>
> 
> k.
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> On Jul 8, 2024, at 5:04 PM, Josh C  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Summer Reading by Bike

[Eric Floden]

>
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> Bill Bryson has narrated some of his audiobooks and they are superb for it

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Re: [RBW] 3M Formula 303 and Tires

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have t used it on tires (bike or car), but 303 is my go-to replacement for ArmorAll. IMHO 303 is a much better product—a nice finish without the greasy residue that AA can leave. –Eric NOn Jul 8, 2024, at 3:04 PM, John Rinker  wrote:Just wondering if any uses or has used 303 on bike tires. I've been using it for sometime on my canoe as a UV protectant, and it's supposed to be good for rubber. People seem to use it on car tires.I'm thinking of using it on my Rene Herse tan walls as they see a lot of sun in the summer.Cheers, John



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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Prototype mountain bike for sale

[Eric Daume]

26” wheels will have a longer head tube, plus I think the Riv mtb frame did
have a bit of top tube slope.

Eric

On Saturday, July 6, 2024, George Schick  wrote:

> I'm puzzled by the posted frame size for this bike.  For a bike with a 19"
> seat tube I would expect to see a much shorter head tube.  Unless it just
> has a top tube with a lot of slope.  It's hard to tell from that photo
> because the picture was take with the bike on a downward slant.
>
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-5 David Blessing wrote:
>
>> I am offering for sale, my Rivendell, prototype mountain bike. I do not
>> know a lot of history about this frame. I believe that it was one of only a
>> few prototypes of a mountain bike format made by Rivendell. I have owned
>> this bike for many years and have never run into anyone else who owns one.
>> I am not sure when it was made, although some posts I have looked at
>> suggest that Rivendell was planning a mountain bike somewhere around 1995.
>> I purchased this frame from a BOB, built it up and rode it once before
>> hanging it in my office shop along side of my Atlantis and my Rambouillet,
>> both of which are also for sale.  I am approaching 71 years of age, and it
>> is time to clean out the stable.
>>
>>
>> This bicycle has a frame that is 49cm from center to the top of the seat
>> tube or 19”. I’m not up on mountain bike sizing, but I am 5’9” and I think
>> it fits me fine. This Bicycle has White Industries hubs attached to 26 inch
>> Velocity Aeroheat AT  rims, a Shimano Deore Mega 9 front derailleur, and
>> Shimano Deore rear derailleur, cool unidentified handlebar, and Nitto
>> Technomic stem. It also has Dura Ace brake levers and Suntour XC Pro
>> cantilever  brakes. The rack pictured goes with the bike. Stamped into the
>> bottom bracket is the serial number K96087. The saddle and pedals are not
>> included and  I will probably keep the Baggins bag. I am not sure if  the
>> seat post is a Nitto or not. The crank is a Suntour XC Pro triple,
>> 42x32x20.  Shifters are Silver Bar ends. This bicycle is beautiful, but not
>> new.  It has some nicks and scrapes especially around the chain area.  Some
>> can be touched up, a couple would only be repairable with a repaint.  I
>> have included a picture of the worst.  I call them beausage.
>>
>>
>> This bicycle will be packed by my wonderful friends at the Bike Shed in
>> Kearney, Nebraska and shipped via bike flights. I will be happy to subtract
>> $200 from my price if you would like to road trip it to my home or near my
>> home near Elwood, Nebraska to pick it up.
>>
>>
>> Price:  $1850.00 shipped to you in the CONUS.
>>
>>
>> Should you be interested, I will be happy to supply you with further
>> pictures of your choosing.[image: IMG_2403.jpeg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Want to move bar end shifter to mounts

[Eric Daume]

Do the Microshift shifters have that soft detent feel in friction mode?
RIvendell used to spec something like this on the Clem. It wasn't a very
good shifter, at least in friction mode.

Eric

On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 10:43 PM Michael Baquerizo 
wrote:

> others mileage may vary, but i recently started using a set of microshift
> thumbies on a new to me bike.
>
> i also have shimano on another bike (as you have) and silver! on another.
> all set up friction.
>
> of the three, the microshift has felt the best.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/124833117848?epid=9024683600=01J1V7F30B9KENRB255JF84DAW=item1d10a23698:g:X2EAAOSwk8pmO9yC=enc%3AAQAJ4NcfUZomssn1t7VI%2Fpf%2BBKOv24CsVKs3Fj%2FzcrSCP3qzd2wrvDOpTNYN4ZDRwgW1oCvrMn7UYZ%2FNJWI2Sq8Hoe6IUuCa5s1b3mxiqab38P7ZICw30vNdRH%2FpGEKJbFfYPVfModc%2Fztu9pUge5ErDdmyqFKcAZa4e3D3cbUm%2Flyewy4IFcgSZ%2F8WjV%2Bw1M6Zit%2Bb61dPHzd1spElNNX6ubNhEPf2ZWqfNmA5xAohvxNwAd%2Fj91TZe1fM7JApHtpIHj9fac7AY5e1B2CYWtS1Q4PvTZJSnxbr88vUvZg5jH45p%7Ctkp%3ABFBMjrG8545k
>
> at their price, it would be cheaper to just get a set of them, and retire
> your shimano, or switch those to another bike (if necessary) or just parts
> bin them.
>
> not what you asked, but owning paul thumb mounts, i would rather just buy
> these. they look pretty too.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 9:43:21 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> What a great group. Sally, love the purple and the Platy. I have a Platy
>> too.
>>
>> Thanks for the note on the Riv mounts. I’ll ask bike shop to look at them
>> too.
>>
>> Yes, I’m just looking to move the placement not change the friction
>> shifting.
>>
>> I’ll be retiring soon and have been wanting to do this for a while.   I
>> might as well do it now.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 9:24:11 PM UTC-4 dros...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, the Paul thing is just the pod to which your mount the shifter. It
>>> doesn’t include the actual shift mechanism. I swapped the pod on my Uno
>>> shifter and it was easy but I had to modify it a bit to make it work. I
>>> think you’re looking for a part that you can have mounted at a bike shop.
>>> I’m unaware of a pod other than the Paul component pod. They make great
>>> stuff if you can stomach the price. If not, I’d go with something like this:
>>>
>>> https://www.microshift.com/us/models/sl-t09/
>>>
>>> Can you post a photo of your shifters?
>>>
>>> If you have the Rivendell silver shifters, Rivendell sells a bar mount
>>> conversion
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/z558mz-cnv-oialk
>>>
>>>
>>> Send a pic and I’ll be able to give you a better idea.
>>>
>>> Unless they’re Dura Ace thumb shifters, it’s probably not with spending
>>> that much to mount them to the bars versus just replacing the whole
>>> shifter.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:25 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dross,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the speedie reply.
>>>>
>>>> 8 speed? 9?  Dunno.  I'm not looking to replace the shifters, just move
>>>> them to a thumbie mount.  Do you think they meant replacing the shifters?
>>>> This is the web page they sent me:
>>>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/drivetrain/shifting/shimanothumbies/
>>>> Would moving the shifters to a thumbie mount change their fantastic and
>>>> smooth as butta' shifting?
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorta like Leah, bicycle bell ding ding...  I just like to get on
>>>> and ride. I know to pump air in my tires and lube the chain.   I just know
>>>> I don't like the placement of the current shifter.
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 7:08:07 PM UTC-4 dros...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What speed are you running? The problem with the Paul mount is that
>>>>> you can get a new shifter for less money. I have one of the blingy Uno
>>>>> shifters but I also have two bikes with Microshift and it works just as
>>>>> well. There isn’t too much you can do to engineer a significantly better
>>>>> friction shifter which is one of the great things about friction shifters.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 7:04 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Shimano bar end shifters (friction) on my A Homer Hilsen that
>>>>>> work fantastically, but I've never liked placement as bar ends, because 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> me knocking them out of gear wit

Re: [RBW] JP Weigle Raleigh Competition 650B Conversion

[Eric Marth]

Oops, small correction: I see these are all photos you took, Tom. I am 
fairly certain Peter posted some of this project which I have saved. 

On Tuesday, July 2, 2024 at 8:51:20 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Oh, this one hurts. A JPW Competition in my size. I have such a soft spot 
> for these and love each and every old Raleigh that Peter has rat-rodded 
> out. I can't swing it at the moment but dear lord oh me oh my it's 
> beautiful and has all the modifications one could dream of! 
>
> You better believe I already had the photos you shared from Peter's flickr 
> account already saved to my reference folder.
>
> Best of luck with the sale! Someone needs to get this built up and out on 
> the road
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 10:57:40 AM UTC-4 thomas.all...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill Lindsay helpfully points out that I buried the size information on 
>> this bike.  It’s either a 58cm or a 59cm, and when I get back to my shop I 
>> can provide precise measurements for anyone who’s interested.  Sorry for 
>> the unhelpful omission.
>>
>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 10:00 AM, Tom Allingham  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Never mind -- they seem to be working now.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 9:43:38 AM UTC-4 Tom Allingham wrote:
>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> Not much in the way of direct Rivendell content (the seatpost came from 
>>> Riv), but I hope Jim will indulge me, because this is an unusual 
>>> opportunity that the list may be very interested in.  And apologies for the 
>>> long post, but for those who are interested, it’ll be worth it.
>>>
>>> Almost 12 years ago, when I was very interested (at least in the 
>>> abstract) in randonneuring, I travelled to Peter Weigle’s lovely shop in 
>>> Connecticut and purchased a JPW-reimagined 650B conversion of a Raleigh 
>>> Competition.  Peter has done a few of these extensive conversions over the 
>>> years, and the reviews on Flickr by their owners are incredibly 
>>> enthusiastic.  My example is gorgeous — a deep maroon with gold pin 
>>> striping by Peter, and contrasting blue paint on the lugs.  The details are 
>>> stunning.  Here are a few pics of the bike in Peter’s shop and mocked up 
>>> after the conversion:
>>>
>>> [image: 8432741668_2029bea99a_b.jpg]
>>>
>>> Raleigh, modified by JPW as 650B randonneur <https://flic.kr/p/dRb1iJ>
>>> flic.kr <https://flic.kr/p/dRb1iJ>
>>> <https://flic.kr/p/dRb1iJ>
>>> [image: 27169754834_fd53471644_b.jpg]
>>>
>>> JPW image of reimagined Raleigh Competition <https://flic.kr/p/HoU6wS>
>>> flic.kr <https://flic.kr/p/HoU6wS>
>>> <https://flic.kr/p/HoU6wS>
>>> [image: 27681087122_f24371ae1c_b.jpg]
>>>
>>> JPW image of reimagined Raleigh Competition <https://flic.kr/p/Jb5NNN>
>>> flic.kr <https://flic.kr/p/Jb5NNN>
>>> <https://flic.kr/p/Jb5NNN>
>>>
>>> The frameset came with installed headset, perfectly fitted fluted 
>>> fenders, Mafac brakes, JPW custom front rack and taillight, and pump.  On 
>>> Flickr, Peter described the many steps in the conversion process for this 
>>> bike this way:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *“I want these conversions to be special, and there are many things that 
>>> happen in the process. Here's a short list.First of all each frame is 
>>> inspected to make sure everything seems ok.Frame geometry is measured, 
>>> forks are re-raked to obtain the desired trail.The frame is milled and 
>>> faced, the crown race is turned down to fit standard headsets.Frame is 
>>> checked for alignment, this will be repeated as the bridges are installed, 
>>> and one more time as a final check.Bridges are cut out and new ones placed 
>>> in the proper location for 650b fender lines.Chainstays are manipulated to 
>>> increase clearance for 42 mm tires.Cantilever bosses are added and cable 
>>> hangers modified as needed.Brake cable guides are removed and are replaced 
>>> on the other side of the tube from their stock location to "sweeten" up the 
>>> brake cable routing. Water bottle, shift lever, pump mounts and tail light 
>>> mounts are brazed on.On this frame the forks were modified to accept a dyno 
>>> wire inside.A custom front rack is made, fenders are reshaped and 
>>> installed.A custom tail l

Re: [RBW] JP Weigle Raleigh Competition 650B Conversion

[Eric Marth]

Oh, this one hurts. A JPW Competition in my size. I have such a soft spot 
for these and love each and every old Raleigh that Peter has rat-rodded 
out. I can't swing it at the moment but dear lord oh me oh my it's 
beautiful and has all the modifications one could dream of! 

You better believe I already had the photos you shared from Peter's flickr 
account already saved to my reference folder.

Best of luck with the sale! Someone needs to get this built up and out on 
the road
On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 10:57:40 AM UTC-4 thomas.all...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bill Lindsay helpfully points out that I buried the size information on 
> this bike.  It’s either a 58cm or a 59cm, and when I get back to my shop I 
> can provide precise measurements for anyone who’s interested.  Sorry for 
> the unhelpful omission.
>
> On Jun 30, 2024, at 10:00 AM, Tom Allingham  
> wrote:
>
> Never mind -- they seem to be working now.
>
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 9:43:38 AM UTC-4 Tom Allingham wrote:
>
>> All:
>>
>> Not much in the way of direct Rivendell content (the seatpost came from 
>> Riv), but I hope Jim will indulge me, because this is an unusual 
>> opportunity that the list may be very interested in.  And apologies for the 
>> long post, but for those who are interested, it’ll be worth it.
>>
>> Almost 12 years ago, when I was very interested (at least in the 
>> abstract) in randonneuring, I travelled to Peter Weigle’s lovely shop in 
>> Connecticut and purchased a JPW-reimagined 650B conversion of a Raleigh 
>> Competition.  Peter has done a few of these extensive conversions over the 
>> years, and the reviews on Flickr by their owners are incredibly 
>> enthusiastic.  My example is gorgeous — a deep maroon with gold pin 
>> striping by Peter, and contrasting blue paint on the lugs.  The details are 
>> stunning.  Here are a few pics of the bike in Peter’s shop and mocked up 
>> after the conversion:
>>
>> [image: 8432741668_2029bea99a_b.jpg]
>>
>> Raleigh, modified by JPW as 650B randonneur 
>> flic.kr 
>> 
>> [image: 27169754834_fd53471644_b.jpg]
>>
>> JPW image of reimagined Raleigh Competition 
>> flic.kr 
>> 
>> [image: 27681087122_f24371ae1c_b.jpg]
>>
>> JPW image of reimagined Raleigh Competition 
>> flic.kr 
>> 
>>
>> The frameset came with installed headset, perfectly fitted fluted 
>> fenders, Mafac brakes, JPW custom front rack and taillight, and pump.  On 
>> Flickr, Peter described the many steps in the conversion process for this 
>> bike this way:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *“I want these conversions to be special, and there are many things that 
>> happen in the process. Here's a short list.First of all each frame is 
>> inspected to make sure everything seems ok.Frame geometry is measured, 
>> forks are re-raked to obtain the desired trail.The frame is milled and 
>> faced, the crown race is turned down to fit standard headsets.Frame is 
>> checked for alignment, this will be repeated as the bridges are installed, 
>> and one more time as a final check.Bridges are cut out and new ones placed 
>> in the proper location for 650b fender lines.Chainstays are manipulated to 
>> increase clearance for 42 mm tires.Cantilever bosses are added and cable 
>> hangers modified as needed.Brake cable guides are removed and are replaced 
>> on the other side of the tube from their stock location to "sweeten" up the 
>> brake cable routing. Water bottle, shift lever, pump mounts and tail light 
>> mounts are brazed on.On this frame the forks were modified to accept a dyno 
>> wire inside.A custom front rack is made, fenders are reshaped and 
>> installed.A custom tail light needs to be fashioned, and a pump modified to 
>> fit.Mafac cantilevers are cleaned up, polished and a set of Kool Stop pads 
>> are installed.The frame is bead blasted, primed, painted, lug lined, box 
>> striped, decals are applied, clear coats applied, baked, and then hand 
>> rubbed.Frame Saver is applied and a headset is installed, then I have to 
>> take the photos for all to see.**”*
>>
>> On Flickr, our group member Bill Lindsay commented on this bike: 
>>
>> *“JPW in one word, Varsity — almost everybody else, in two words, Junior 
>> Varsity.”*
>>
>> I immediately began planning to finish the build.  I built a dyno wheel 
>> set (SON front hub, Compass Cycles rear, with VO rims) with 42mm Grand Bois 
>> Hetres, installed a BB (I think it’s a Phil Wood), Rene Herse crankset, 
>> Nitto stem with Rene Herse decaleur, Nitto lugged seatpost, and beautiful 
>> NOS Ideale saddle.  I set aside a tall Berthoud Handlebar Bag, and 
>> collected a Campy groupset and (at Peter’s recommendation) a set of Huret 
>> Jubilee derailleurs and shifters.  And then life intervened, and now (more 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[Eric Daume]

I agree on this. I love single speeds, and the 3x1 flexibility looks fun,
and the 61.5m profile looks just right for me, but those long reach brakes
are a deal breaker for me. I've built bikes with them in the past, and
their stopping power in the wet is inadequate for me. Maybe the Riv guys
never ride across a section of wet grass and then need to stop for a road
crossing, but I have, and had some scares with these brakes.

Eric
in Plain City, OH, wondering how they use those brakes in hills

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 5:50 PM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
martinpgie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming V-brake I
> would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself.
>
> Marty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping Rivs

[Eric Floden]

>
>
> Love the cat...

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Re: [RBW] Internal rim width

[Eric Daume]

I would have zero concerns with that combo.

Eric

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024, dylan green  wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I'm considering getting some big Fleecer Ridge tires on my velocity dyads.
> RH has a suggested rim width of 19mm, but the dyads measure 18.6. Anyone
> have experience with this? I'm assuming I'll be OK - but you know what they
> say about that. Not sure if it matters, but I'll be running them with
> tubes.
>
> thanks,
> d
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Re: [RBW] Re: A PSA From Gordon Ramsay

[Eric Floden]

>
>
> I spent a number of years in the motorcycle safety world and saw enough to
> convince  me a helmet is a great idea for many activities. (Escpecially
> motorcycling.)


But I want to add that this article on survivorship bias is a good one to
consider:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

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Re: [RBW] Wheels and tires

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

PM sent on the Crust wheels.

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> On Jun 11, 2024, at 4:34 PM, R Olson  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have some wheels and tires for sale:
> 
> 1 Crust Rim brake Wheelset:  700c, 32h F/R, 23mm internal width, 130mm 
> rear spacing, Shutter Precision SV-8 dynamo front hub.  8spd cassette, quick 
> release levers and rim tape included.  Hardly used, a few hundred miles.  
> Here’s a link to the crust webpage with more information:  
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/wheels/products/crust-randonneur-rim-brake-wheelsets
> 
>Price:  $200 plus shipping.
> 
> 
> 
> Velo Orange Wheelset with 43mm Gravelkings with tubes:  700c, 36h F/R, V-O 
> Voyager rim 22mm internal width, 130mm rear spacing, V-O Grand Cru rear hub 
> and V-O front hub, 9 spd cassette, handbuilt by local bike shop, lightly 
> used, again maybe a few hundred miles.
> 
> Webpage for Voyager rims:  
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim?variant=14408204484657
> 
> Webpage for V-O front hub:  
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/hubs/products/front-hub-silver-and-noir?variant=31842034942089
> 
>  Price:  $200 plus shipping.
> 
> 
> 
> Two 50mm Schwalbe Marathons tires.  Maybe fifty miles on them. 
> 
> Price: $50 plus shipping for both.
> 
> 
> 
>  Two WTB Vigilante Tough 2.5 inch tires.  I put these on and rode around the 
> block.  They weren’t what I was looking for.  Pretty heavy FYI.
> 
> Price:  $40 plus shipping for both.
> 
>  
> Here are some photos:   https://photos.app.goo.gl/qwL1zzyjB4W1vyrs7
> 
> Paypal or Venmo will work.
> 
> Thanks for looking,
> 
>  
> Ryan
> 
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Re: [RBW] WTB SCAMMER ALERT - gran09861@gmail

[Eric Floden]

https://www.theonion.com/undercover-cop-never-knew-selling-drugs-was-such-hard-w-1819566772

Undercover Cop Never Knew Selling Drugs Was Such Hard Work
PublishedMarch 5, 2003






PHILADELPHIA—Rick Bastone, 31, an officer with Philadelphia's 23rd
Precinct, has gained newfound respect for America's hard-working drug
dealers ever since going undercover to sell narcotics.

"I had no idea how tough this was," said Bastone, standing on a dilapidated
corner in 20-degree weather while awaiting a cocaine drop-off Monday. "I
guess I imagined it being like in the movies: drinking champagne,
hot-tubbing with honeys, and cruising in customized Escalades while
watching the cash roll in. But here I am, freezing my ass off. I've got to
say, these drug-dealing scumbags really earn their pay."

On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 at 13:34, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I often think that, given the trouble many criminals seem to take to make
> a shady buck, it might be easier just to get a job.
>
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Re: [RBW] Hwy 1 Closures

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Exactly. I’m hoping to ride to at least to the village sometime in June, and 
bikes can often go where cars can’t.

--Eric Norris
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> On Jun 5, 2024, at 7:45 AM, bo richardson  wrote:
> 
> But" closed to car traffic" is not the same as" impassible to anarcho- adult 
> children 
> who spent a fortune on fat tires"
> 
> Dan Remsen on the Bellingham Mayors Bike-Ped Advisory Board. advocated
> for retrofitting as appropriate "Dead End" signs to read "Dead End for Cars"
> 
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 10:50:12 PM UTC-7 Joe in the Pay Area wrote:
>> Best up-to-date info is on the California Department of Transportaion site. 
>> That's the agency in charge of the road.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 1:58:33 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com <> wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if it’s currently possible to ride as far as the village 
>>> of Big Sur? Or to Nepenthe? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks! 
>>> 
>>> —Eric N 
>>> 
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[RBW] Hwy 1 Closures

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Does anyone know if it’s currently possible to ride as far as the village of 
Big Sur? Or to Nepenthe?

Thanks! 

—Eric N

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Re: [RBW] film photos on bike rides

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Stephen:

I post a lot of photos I’ve taken on rides. Check out my Instagram: 
https://www.instagram.com/campyonlyguy

I’m also building up the cameras-and-bikes content on my YouTube channel: 
https://youtube.com/campyonlyguy

I started taking photos on rides in the early 80s, before digital cameras were 
available. I used disposable cameras back then, but I’ve since graduated to 
more sophisticated gear.

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> On Jun 2, 2024, at 9:02 AM, Stephen  wrote:
> 
> Been taking more film photos with the rollei 35 led since recently moving to 
> the sfbay area again and I just got a couple rolls developed. Thought it 
> might be nice to start a conversation for folks to post film photos shot on 
> bike rides.
> 
> 
> 
> Kirby cove
> 
> 
> Rodeo valley
> 
> 
> geese near albany bulb
> 
> 
> Tam from the headlands.
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Re: [RBW] Budget Clem L Build

[Eric Daume]

You might want to get on Soma’s email list. They’ve been having some great
sales (eg 65% off) and many of their parts will work great with a Riv
build.

Eric

On Monday, May 27, 2024, Franco Rinaldi  wrote:

> Ciao Everybody,
>
> About to grab a Clem frame and really want to do a highly utilitarian /
> budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions!
>
> Appreciate you guys,
>
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Re: [RBW] Budget Clem L Build

[Eric Daume]

You might want to get on Soma’s email list. They’ve been having some great
sales (eg 65% off) and many of their parts will work great with a Riv
build.

Eric

On Monday, May 27, 2024, Franco Rinaldi  wrote:

> Ciao Everybody,
>
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> budget build. Wanted to start a thread with tips and suggestions!
>
> Appreciate you guys,
>
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Re: [RBW] DIY build or order complete?

[Eric Daume]

Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a
home mechanic, in my experience. The next hardest job is ordering the
correct parts: bottom bracket spindle length and crank and (if you're using
one) the front derailer all need to play together correctly. After that,
it's mostly bolting stuff together, it would be hard to actually damage
your frame doing this.

Setting some things (chain length, cable housing length, brake pad
adjustment, derailer limit stops) take a bit of thought and/or youtube
research, but especially with a friction drivetrain and rim brakes, none of
this is rocket science.

Eric
who last bought a complete bike in... um... er...
in
Plain City, OH

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:32 AM Michael  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Ordered a Sam as my first Riv but unsure whether or not I should tackle
> building it up myself or just let Riv have at it. I have never built a bike
> before but I do have a workshop and am good with tools/mechanically
> inclined.
>
> Are there any specific steps that you would absolutely not recommend a
> beginner attempt? By the time i purchase specialty tools, it may have been
> wiser to just order it complete?
>
> Let me know what you guys think, I really don't want to do something
> stupid!
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Is an Atlantis Worth It?

[Eric Daume]

I'm going to be the contrarian here. My experience is that I tend to enjoy
the "cheap and cheerful" bikes more than bikes that were more expensive
with greater expectations. I look at my little bike fleet, and sometimes
think I could sell off a good chunk of them and buy something "nicer," but
in practice, this doesn't work for me. I've owned a handful of Rivs over
the years, but my current favorite bike is a 40 year old Trek that I paid
$200 for, set up as a simple fixed gear.

I'll also add that in my experience of flipping many bikes, Rivs don't hold
their value better or worse than any other more mainstream frames; they're
just more expensive to start with. Buying used is always the best way to
avoid any tears here.

Eric


On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM max.c@gmail.com 
wrote:

> First: I realize I am asking this to an entirely biased group of people
> and I'm okay with that!
>
> For years I have casually dreamed of owning an Atlantis. I commute 4 miles
> each way by bike, ditched my car a few years ago, and love riding, but I do
> it pretty casually. I'm not racing or doing endurance rides. I just like
> riding my bike and I do it whenever I can.
>
> I don't need the nicest bike in the world and have been fairly satisfied
> with my 1988 Schwinn Cimarron that I've made a fair approximation of a poor
> man's rivendell (somewhat out of date pic below!). However, I've always had
> the itch to upgrade.
>
> Recently, I received an unexpected influx of cash and want to spend it on
> something fun. I'm wondering: how much will I noticeably appreciate the
> difference an Atlantis would bring if I were to spend the money? I'm
> especially interested in the input from those who have gone from the 80s
> era rigid MTB with swept back bars that approximate a Riv (and Grant's
> ethos from Bridgestone) to the real deal. Was it worth the money? Do you
> think you could have gotten by on that 80s frame?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Max
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[RBW] Re: My Rivendell Platypus - A Forever Bike Build

[Eric Marth]

Hi Armand, this is a great build. 

How are you liking those MKS Pretzels? I'm considering getting a pair. 
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:01:38 PM UTC-4 jmeln...@gmail.com wrote:

> It was nice to meet you on Saturday at Topanga Creek Outpost, Armand! Your 
> Platy is even more gorgeous in person.
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:53:45 AM UTC-7 Neale S. wrote:
>
>> See you this weekend Armand! Will be on my Atlantis and at least 
>> attempting the triple scoop.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 9:41:18 AM UTC-7 glennma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Having just gotten my first Rivendell--a Platypus no less--this is very 
>>> inspiring. You've put together a truly beautiful bike. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 9:24:30 AM UTC-4 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 beautiful build. I love the video of you riding it on the trails. 

 I really need to find the time to build mine up... 

 On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:31:39 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> Ahhh! Beautiful build! I appreciate the details and photos you've 
> shared of your informed and thoughtful build. What a Platypus!
>
> Wishing you thousands of safe and happy miles,
>
> Tom 
> (leaving Miami)
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Wow...that's some build...love that chainring attachment for your 
>> basket. Really creative! Did you do that yourself or is that something 
>> you 
>> bought?  Anyway, nice bike and that color kind of grows on you
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 4:48:28 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:
>>
>>> I thoroughly enjoyed this write-up. I can tell you've put in a lot 
>>> of thought to this bike, and it's beautiful.
>>> Your approach to this build as a performance upright bicycle and 
>>> your subsequent revelations as to the comfort mirror my own on my new, 
>>> purple Appaloosa. I have the same bars too, but slightly wider tyres! 
>>> All I 
>>> need is some bar tape and to mount my shifters upside down like yours 
>>> for 
>>> those secondary hand positions to really be dialled.
>>> Hope you have many more adventures to come.
>>>
>>> PS: I was told the Quills couldn't handle 48s (I have them on my 
>>> singlespeed). Are you running yours tubeless?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday 15 May 2024 at 09:26:44 UTC+9:30 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The complete build list is as follows. *View all photos here. 
 
  
 *

 Cockpit features a Nitto 135mm Faceplater Stem with Rons Ortho 
 Bars, Brooks leather ergon grips with Simworks purple bar ends, 
 Rivendell 
 S2 friction shifters, with harlequin style newbuams purple/yellow wrap 
 with 
 clear shellac, and a stem-mounted spurcycle bell. S83 seatpost with 
 Brooks 
 B17 titanium. NOS Dura-Ace headset.

 [image: IMG_3282.JPG]

 Brakes feature Paul Canti Levers with Touring Canti’s, Moon units, 
 and Hunter cycles Nugz for extra cable adjustment. Rene herse and 
 nitto 
 cable hangars. Yokozuna reaction compressionless housing. All capped 
 off 
 with Forager cycles cable cherries. Kool stop brake pads with the grey 
 e-bike pad compound. This was my final hurrah to test the ultimate 
 canti-lever brake setup and deem its worthiness as a brake. It has not 
 passed by test. Riv recommends v-brakes for several valid reasons.

 Custom wheelset featuring White Industries MI5 hubs laced to 
 Velocity Quill rims with Sapim spokes and brass nipples, 32h front, 
 36h 
 rear, all polished. Rene Herse Tires, 48mm Hatcher Pass and Oracle 
 Ridge. I 
 will likely keep an endurance casing Oracle ridge as a final tire 
 choice, 
 setup tubeless with Ultradynamico brass tubeless valves. I like riding 
 fast, especially on dirt. 

 Drivetrain features an ultra rare 110/73bcd Middleburn lightweight 
 road triple with 42/28t gearing and Rivendell chain guard and brass 
 self-extractors. Aluminum Sugino 28t chainring and aluminum chainring 
 hardware for weight reduction. NOS Dura-Ace 7700 sealed cartridge 
 Bottom 
 bracket. Pedals are MKS Pretzel with shorter 4-5mm length brass set 
 screws 
 to replace the 6mm long aggressive steel pins. Ultegra PD-ES600 SPD 
 pedals 
 for longer rides when I want to be clipped in. Deore XT 9-speed 11-34 
 cassette, with NOS Dura Ace 7700 mid-cage rear derailleur (wolftooth 
 roadlink to clear the 34t), Dura Ace 7800 double front derailleur. KMC 
 10-speed X10SL with the gold 

Re: [RBW] The Cub House's Los Angeles Invitational Ride - May 18

[Eric Marth]

This looks like it was a great event. Thanks for all the pictures and 
reports. 

Armand, that picture above the clouds is unreal!

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 10:14:58 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> 48s? Try 38s!
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> The ride, route and vibes really were all fantastic. 
>
> The final 10mile descent to the 39 was out of this world.
>
> [image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg][image: image3.jpeg][image: 
> image4.jpeg][image: image5.jpeg]
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2024, at 6:55 PM, Armand Kizirian  wrote:
>
> The ride was fantastic. I had an engagement in the evening so I ended up 
> doing the double scoop. Getting above the marine layer was surreal! See the 
> pic below at the top of mt. disappointment. Was really great to see so many 
> people come out on the ride, with a solid handful of Riv's on the ride too! 
> Great to see you Neal, props for doing the full route. 
>
>
> Put some knobbies on the Platy and really enjoying riding it. Pushed the 
> limits of spirited riding on dirt on the descent with it, challenging to 
> keep enough weight on the front end for traction up front in the corners 
> but it was very smooth and predictable for a rigid bike on 48's. Will 
> definitely be dropping down my 28t chainring to a 26t I have in the parts 
> bin (11-34 cassette). 
>
> I've got a campsite at Parson's Landing on Catalina June 18-19 if anyone 
> wants to get in on it. 
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 9:30:36 AM UTC-7 Neale S. wrote:
>
>> Ted - it was the Rincon Red Box road the entire way. Puts you out on 39 a 
>> little above the reservoir. My first time doing anything in that area. It 
>> was tough but none of the grade or surfaces were unreasonable - just long 
>> and a lot of climbing. 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 5:44:39 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On May 19, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Neale S.  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I had a blast! Did the triple scoop and it was a beast, took me all day. 
>>> The aid station at the top of the single scoop was a mountaintop party. I 
>>> saw Armand and a few other Riv riders. Lots of other cool bikes, and plenty 
>>> of good vibes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Wow, I had no idea there were trails connecting Mt Wilson and Glendora. 
>>> That looks like an amazing (ly difficult) ride!
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I use the same type of insert and have never had a problem with a camera that 
I’ve carried. The padded inserts also have the side benefit of making it harder 
to carry a bunch of useless stuff in the bag. 

--Eric Norris
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> On May 21, 2024, at 10:26 AM, David Hays <23writ...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I use padded inserts in my GB, Ostrich and Cory Brenn bags to safely carry my 
> cameras.
> Today it was an Olympus Pen in my GB bag on the my Homer and tomorrow 
> probably my Leica M240 in my Cory Brent on my Mercian.
> I sometimes rationalize the bikes as facilitating my photography and at 
> others my photography motivates my cycling…
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <2020-Mercian-2.26.22jpg.jpg>
> 
>> On May 16, 2024, at 10:31 AM, Ted Durant  wrote:
>> 
>> The aforementioned OM-D E-M5 MkII with Panasonic 20mm/f1.7 lens, perched on 
>> the Berthoud bag on my Waterford.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Sugino XD2 Crank Arms 175mm

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have the rings and bolts if anybody needs them. Make me an offer.

--Eric Norris
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> On May 20, 2024, at 1:26 PM, J Imler  wrote:
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> Arms only, no rings or bolts. PM for actual photos. $70 plus shipping CONUS.
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[RBW] Re: For sale: Nexave rapid rise, Nitto stems, Suntour Cyclone

[Eric Marth]

Further updates! 

Nexave: Sold
Faceplater: Sold
Technomic: Sold
Cyclone: Available 
Shifters: Sold
Clamps: Available 
On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 3:52:27 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> A few more things for sale: 
>
> [image: IMG_1602.JPG]
>
> *Shimano SL-BS50 shift levers — $50*
> A set of Shimano bar end shifters, model SL-BS50. They index with seven 
> clicks implying (do I have this right?) they have eight positions and will 
> index to eight speeds. They can also be used in friction mode, I'm unsure 
> how many speeds they will swing in friction. Standard Shimano mounting 
> pods. Could be used with your Silver or Simplex levers. 
>
> [image: 230530 Clamp 02 S.jpg]
>
> [image: 230530 Clamp 01 S.jpg]
>
> *British brass clamps — $15/set *
> These were originally manufactured for fuel lines on British race cars. 
> They also work as handsome clamps on non-aero cable housing. A have two 
> spare sets available. 
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 2:41:14 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Nexave: Sold
>> Faceplater: Pending
>> Technomic: Available
>> Cyclone: Available 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 12:24:42 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> *IMpoRTant dEtaiLS!! *
>>> Clamp diameter on the Face-plater is 25.4 
>>> Clamp diameter on the Technomic is 26.0 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
>>>> A few things for sale, please email me to purchase. Prices do not 
>>>> include shipping. Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_1592.JPG]
>>>> [image: IMG_1593.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> *Nitto Face-Plater stem, 11cm — $85*
>>>> Used for less than a year, made by Nitto in Japan. Purchased new from 
>>>> Rivendell. With a 225mm quill. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_1596.JPG]
>>>> [image: IMG_1597.JPG]
>>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 12.12.33 PM.png]
>>>>
>>>> *Shimano T400 Nexave — $150 *
>>>> Brand new, in the bag, never mounted. Rapid rise, long cage. Large 
>>>> upper pulley. Sorry for the bad pictures, I don't want to take it out of 
>>>> the factory-sealed bag! Reference picture above, same model installed on 
>>>> my 
>>>> Appaloosa. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_1595.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> *Nitto Technomic long quill, 8cm — $65*
>>>> Brand new, never installed. 225mm quill, 8cm of reach.
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_1589.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> *Suntour Cyclone short cage rear mech — $25*
>>>> In beautiful shape, nice and clean. Missing the hanger-mounting bolts 
>>>> *and* the cable pinch bolts. 
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale: Nexave rapid rise, Nitto stems, Suntour Cyclone

[Eric Marth]

Nexave: Sold
Faceplater: Pending
Technomic: Available
Cyclone: Available 

Thanks! 
On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 12:24:42 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> *IMpoRTant dEtaiLS!! *
> Clamp diameter on the Face-plater is 25.4 
> Clamp diameter on the Technomic is 26.0 
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> A few things for sale, please email me to purchase. Prices do not include 
>> shipping. Thank you!
>>
>> [image: IMG_1592.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_1593.JPG]
>>
>> *Nitto Face-Plater stem, 11cm — $85*
>> Used for less than a year, made by Nitto in Japan. Purchased new from 
>> Rivendell. With a 225mm quill. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1596.JPG]
>> [image: IMG_1597.JPG]
>> [image: Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 12.12.33 PM.png]
>>
>> *Shimano T400 Nexave — $150 *
>> Brand new, in the bag, never mounted. Rapid rise, long cage. Large upper 
>> pulley. Sorry for the bad pictures, I don't want to take it out of the 
>> factory-sealed bag! Reference picture above, same model installed on my 
>> Appaloosa. 
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_1595.JPG]
>>
>> *Nitto Technomic long quill, 8cm — $65*
>> Brand new, never installed. 225mm quill, 8cm of reach.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1589.JPG]
>>
>> *Suntour Cyclone short cage rear mech — $25*
>> In beautiful shape, nice and clean. Missing the hanger-mounting bolts 
>> *and* the cable pinch bolts. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale: Nexave rapid rise, Nitto stems, Suntour Cyclone

[Eric Marth]

*IMpoRTant dEtaiLS!! *
Clamp diameter on the Face-plater is 25.4 
Clamp diameter on the Technomic is 26.0 

On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 12:17:18 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> A few things for sale, please email me to purchase. Prices do not include 
> shipping. Thank you!
>
> [image: IMG_1592.JPG]
> [image: IMG_1593.JPG]
>
> *Nitto Face-Plater stem, 11cm — $85*
> Used for less than a year, made by Nitto in Japan. Purchased new from 
> Rivendell. With a 225mm quill. 
>
> [image: IMG_1596.JPG]
> [image: IMG_1597.JPG]
> [image: Screenshot 2024-05-18 at 12.12.33 PM.png]
>
> *Shimano T400 Nexave — $150 *
> Brand new, in the bag, never mounted. Rapid rise, long cage. Large upper 
> pulley. Sorry for the bad pictures, I don't want to take it out of the 
> factory-sealed bag! Reference picture above, same model installed on my 
> Appaloosa. 
>
>
> [image: IMG_1595.JPG]
>
> *Nitto Technomic long quill, 8cm — $65*
> Brand new, never installed. 225mm quill, 8cm of reach.
>
> [image: IMG_1589.JPG]
>
> *Suntour Cyclone short cage rear mech — $25*
> In beautiful shape, nice and clean. Missing the hanger-mounting bolts 
> *and* the cable pinch bolts. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Adventures in (Re) building my Saluki

[Eric Marth]

That's a great looking build, Michael! Sorry about all the compounded 
mechanicals. Mama said there'd be days! 

Jock, always nice to see one of your elegant builds.

On Saturday, May 18, 2024 at 10:23:09 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Lovely setup.
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 8:07 AM John Dewey  wrote:
>
>>
>> Yikes, MH. What an adventure. Plenty of fortitude and patience required. 
>> I rebuilt this one but not quite so exciting thankfully. Actually the 
>> trials and tribulations only make the bonds stronger, right? You now know 
>> the bike really well,,,inside and out. 
>>
>> Good on ya for sticking with it. 
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 5:50 PM Michael Hechmer  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You may remember my previous post after retrieving my Saluki ( Serial 
>>> #007) from the powder coating shop in White River Jct Vt.   I thought the 
>>> rebuild would be simple and straight forward.  What could go wrong?!!
>>>
>>> First, I discovered that the threads in the BB shell needed to be 
>>> re-chased.  This required 25 miles of driving (rt) to the Village Bicycle 
>>> Shop in Richmond, Vt.  Home again things went well until I tried to. 
>>> remount the rear fender.  Now realizing that all the eyelits also needed to 
>>> be re-chased .  Another 25 miles of driving, only to discover  that a 
>>> family emergency  had lead to an unscheduled closing.  Tried again the next 
>>> day..  Along the way I recognized that the stem would not tighten down.  I 
>>> figured out that the wedge shaped nut was disconnected from the long stem 
>>> bolt, and jammed in the head tube..  This required removing the stem, HB, 
>>> brakes,  fenders and fork in order drive the now deformed nut out of the 
>>> head tube.  Had another in my spare parts bin.   OK.  Now with everything 
>>> (almost) tightened down, I set out on a shakedown  ride. 
>>>
>>> What a joy!  I didn't buy any new parts for this rebuild but am still 
>>> leaning toward a new front rack.  Contrary to GPs opinions I really 
>>> appreciate hi end Paul's breaks, TA rings, and Campy derailleurs and smooth 
>>> shifting..  I rode along grooving on the sweet, neutral handling of the 
>>> Saluki; the easy & comfy rolling of the PariMoto 45 mm tires.  No break 
>>> squeak from my Pauls Neo Retros.  Then, about 6 miles from home all hell 
>>> broke loose! 
>>>
>>> Actually what broke was one tiny bolt holding the rear deraileur cage 
>>> together.  That left me  without a pulley or functioning rear derailer.  
>>> Fortunately I was uphill from home so could coast  half the way home, where 
>>> I discovered the remaining half of the deraileur (Campy Centaur) was wedged 
>>>  between cogs in the cassette.  It turned out I had another Campy Centaur 
>>> deraileur to use. Yea.
>>>
>>> To deliver the coup, either in the process of wedging itself or my 
>>> effort to free the derairller managed to damage the threads in the dropout 
>>> and neither derailleur would rethread into the frame..  Another trip to a 
>>> bike shop.
>>>
>>> It turned out that the replacement derailleur also had a broken part, 
>>> which is probably why it was in a box of random parts.  After some some 
>>> despair, (and a drink) I found a way to combine the two broken derailleurs 
>>> into one functioning part!
>>>
>>> Tomorrow will try another ride.  It looks good.
>>>
>>> Some pics: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0oGGXqixGEaeNt
>>>
>>> I guess we all have days/weeks like this.
>>> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

[Eric Marth]

Congrats to everyone on snagging a Sam, very capable and fun bikes!

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:41:03 PM UTC-4 watta...@gmail.com wrote:

>  Happily secured a 54 Peri-Sam at 12:01 yesterday. I’m thinking Quill 
> rims to have tubeless as an option. Recs on dynamo hubs? I’ve had a Son hub 
> w edelux light but would entertain a cheaper hub option but will stick w 
> Edelux lights…it’s so good. 
>
> On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:52:32 AM UTC-7 Donzaemon wrote:
>
>> Love that color! It’s in my size too!
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb  wrote:
>>>
>>> almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i 
>>> be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month 
>>> camping treks (most likely upright bars)? 
>>>
>>>
>>> My saddle height is 70cm (PBH 81ish). Here’s what it looks like on a 51:
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
>>> [image: Rivendell - Bike Owners-4.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

[Eric Marth]

Great views, Chester!

WLS — Connecticut has it goin' on! 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 5:03:50 PM UTC-4 wls...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Looks like the spring fling was a blast. I was also in CT last weekend 
> visiting friends in New Haven, but we opted for our own ride which left 
> from their house. No shortage of great trails up there it seems.
>
> [image: IMG_5053.PNG]
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:21:22 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I went up to Connecticut for the Nutmeg Spring Fling 
>>
>> [image: 240512 Nutmeg 04.jpg]
>>
>> [image: 240512 Nutmeg 06.jpg]
>>
>> [image: 240512 Nutmeg 08.jpg]
>> Ballz riding their all-blue Belriot! Such a sweet bike though cloudy and 
>> backlit here.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma San Marcos

[Eric White]

Thanks for the link to that documentation. I believe mine is a 54cm 2014
model. It looks like I got the newer blue color with the older fork. It's a
bridge model, I guess!

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 9:07 AM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Following up from a different thread re offshoot discussion of the San
> Marcos, the color changed between the 2013 Pearl Blue and 2015 Tiburon Blue
> versions, when they also expanded the range using 650b wheels to include
> the 54 and new 57 size.. Maybe the straight fork was retained on the
>  larger 650b sizes? The 59 and 63 had a double top tube and take 700c
> wheels. Mine is a 51 Tiburon Blue with 650b wheels.
>
> 2013:
> https://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/san-marcos-flyer2.pdf
>
> 2015: https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/san-marcos-frame-set
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:11:47 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I bought mine from a friend of a friend and I've done a bit of poking
>> around on the history of the San Marcos but I still don't fully understand
>> the evolution of the fork and color.
>>
>> I used the Velo Orange band clamps for the third water bottle cage. It's
>> been rock solid and handy having the option for one more bottle.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:04 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting! I thought the color determined which fork it had. I also
>>> thought you were re-posting another pic of Gary's bike. Now, I understand
>>> you were replying to his pic with one of your own. Did you use band clamps
>>> to attach the third bottle holder?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed. It's a great bike. Just a joy to ride. I find mine to be very
>>>> steady and stable but there's nothing plodding about it. Here's mine in
>>>> what I believe is the same color as yours, but without the more elegant
>>>> fork.
>>>>
>>>> [image: PXL_20240421_165935710.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:42 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary -- I only saw the one, semi-sideways picture, which looks like it
>>>>> is in the other blue color, which I thought came with the straighter fork.
>>>>> But the picture that Eric re-posted looks like the same color as mine yet
>>>>> with a straighter fork. Do you have one in each color? Do both have the
>>>>> straighter fork curve? Mine does not have a 3rd set of bottle bosses. Did
>>>>> you rig yours as an add-on?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric -- Here is mine. Such a great bike.  Light, nimble, and fluid yet
>>>>> handles gravel, etc. without issue. I have no idea why this was not a
>>>>> massive success. My sister-in-law has one too and so she keeps a saddle in
>>>>> my garage so she can borrow mine when she visits. Would love to see how it
>>>>> compares in geometry to the Roadini.
>>>>> [image: PXL_20240514_231824905.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:48 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking good, Gary!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM LBleriot 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_0374.jpeg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:45:46 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't
>>>>>>>> mind. You don't see too many in the wild!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky
>>>>>>>>> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San
>>>>>>>>> Marcos. Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is 
>>>>>>>>> living its
>>>>>>>>> best life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you
>>>>>>>>> love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one 
>>&g

Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Eric White]

I bought mine from a friend of a friend and I've done a bit of poking
around on the history of the San Marcos but I still don't fully understand
the evolution of the fork and color.

I used the Velo Orange band clamps for the third water bottle cage. It's
been rock solid and handy having the option for one more bottle.


On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 10:04 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Interesting! I thought the color determined which fork it had. I also
> thought you were re-posting another pic of Gary's bike. Now, I understand
> you were replying to his pic with one of your own. Did you use band clamps
> to attach the third bottle holder?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:37 PM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Agreed. It's a great bike. Just a joy to ride. I find mine to be very
>> steady and stable but there's nothing plodding about it. Here's mine in
>> what I believe is the same color as yours, but without the more elegant
>> fork.
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240421_165935710.jpg]
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:42 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>>> Gary -- I only saw the one, semi-sideways picture, which looks like it
>>> is in the other blue color, which I thought came with the straighter fork.
>>> But the picture that Eric re-posted looks like the same color as mine yet
>>> with a straighter fork. Do you have one in each color? Do both have the
>>> straighter fork curve? Mine does not have a 3rd set of bottle bosses. Did
>>> you rig yours as an add-on?
>>>
>>> Eric -- Here is mine. Such a great bike.  Light, nimble, and fluid yet
>>> handles gravel, etc. without issue. I have no idea why this was not a
>>> massive success. My sister-in-law has one too and so she keeps a saddle in
>>> my garage so she can borrow mine when she visits. Would love to see how it
>>> compares in geometry to the Roadini.
>>> [image: PXL_20240514_231824905.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:26:48 AM UTC-6 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking good, Gary!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 8:37 PM LBleriot  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_0374.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:45:46 PM UTC-4 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't
>>>>>> mind. You don't see too many in the wild!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky
>>>>>>> smooth. Entirely comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos.
>>>>>>> Which is why I was able to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best
>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you
>>>>>>> love it and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't
>>>>>>> turn up, order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged 
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> is pending, then it depends on price and timing. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides
>>>>>>>> on a road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I 
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> lucky to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the
>>>>>>>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth 
>>>>>>>> tires
>>>>>>>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a 
>>>>>>>> surprise
>>>>>>>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals
>>>>>>>> and my bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™
>>>>>>>> seem confused about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike 
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> meet their expectations, the women a

Re: [RBW] getting bugs off paint

[Eric Floden]

>
>
> I have tried very little -- I dropped the bikes off in Ontario and then
> have seen little of them since. Hoping to find a good remedy to take with
> me when I get back to them next month.


And I thought I would practice on the car, which is here, to learn what
works

Thanks

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Re: [RBW] getting bugs off paint

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Have you tried Goo Gone? There are also specific bug-removal products available 
at your local auto parts store, Walmart, etc.

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> On May 14, 2024, at 8:52 AM, Eric Floden  wrote:
> 
> Last summer, two roof-mounted bikes* got splattered with big juicy bugs. So 
> far I have only used regular car leash soaps and sponges for this, but the 
> bug goo is not moving. I even started on the day after the goo-ing.  Any tips 
> for removing these splotches without fading the paint?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> signed
> 
> prepared for bug beausage if need be
> 
> 
> * and the car beneath got it even worse. These bugs lived Drumheller and east 
> to about Melville. They made loud popping sounds
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[RBW] getting bugs off paint

[Eric Floden]

Last summer, two roof-mounted bikes* got splattered with big juicy bugs. So
far I have only used regular car leash soaps and sponges for this, but the
bug goo is not moving. I even started on the day after the goo-ing.  Any
tips for removing these splotches without fading the paint?

Thanks

signed

prepared for bug beausage if need be


* and the car beneath got it even worse. These bugs lived Drumheller and
east to about Melville. They made loud popping sounds

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Re: [RBW] Re: For Leah re my Gallop

[Eric White]

San Marcos, you say? Let's see a photo of that one, if you don't mind. You
don't see too many in the wild!

On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 5:50 PM Valerie Yates  wrote:

> Brent! So glad you are happy with the Bleriot. That bike is silky smooth. 
> Entirely
> comparable to both my Roadeo and Soma San Marcos. Which is why I was able
> to let it go. I am so glad it is living its best life.
>
> Leah -  All of the above. If a used one turns up, buy it. If you love it
> and want a lugged one, sell the used one. If a used one doesn't turn up,
> order a lugged one. If a used one turns up while your lugged one is
> pending, then it depends on price and timing. 
>
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 4:38:35 PM UTC-6 in...@brentknepper.com wrote:
>
>> I'm another person whose been showing up to road bike group rides on a
>> road-style Riv the last year or so and it's been a fun journey! I was lucky
>> to buy Valerie's old Riv Bleriot on here and I maintain it as the
>> befendered iteration of my two "fast" bikes- aka bikes with smooth tires
>> and drop bars. it's nice having a dedicated fender bike for when a surprise
>> midwest rain storm passes through 2 hours before a ride
>>
>> anyway I always show up in a t-shirt or hoodie and chaco sandals and my
>> bars level with the leather saddle. While the RoadieBoys™ seem confused
>> about socializing with someone whose appearance/bike doesn't meet their
>> expectations, the women and other folks always say how beautiful the
>> Bleriot is, how the fenders are so smart in keeping my sandal'd feet clean
>> while being helpful to whoever might be behind me, and how neat it is that
>> I'm still fast "enough" to keep pace despite not having the roadie-culture
>> promoted bike, shoes, or clothing :)
>>
>> Leah, I wish you the best on your road bike journey! I admire your
>> commitment to Rivendells (an easy brand to commit to honestly), and hope a
>> Roadeo comes along either at a good deal or with beautiful lugs to add to
>> your hella colorful collection
>>
>> -Brent in chicago
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 5:25:29 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is SO fun.
>>>
>>> Diana, yes please post here as you make your observations/get your
>>> answers. Valerie, your bikes are so cool. Heck, YOU are so cool. Here you
>>> were, all this time, and you have so much to offer us here; I truly hope we
>>> get to hear from you regularly after this. Philip, I agree about the
>>> Roadini. I think Valerie’s photos were helpful (and yours of the updated
>>> model, too) and show the CHG to be less club-ridey than I was hoping for.
>>> That Roadeo looks like just the ticket, though. A Roadini should be a great
>>> choice. Now, do I wait for the lugged versions or hope for a 50 on the used
>>> market? So far there have been none to be found…
>>> L
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 3:46:00 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Me either!

 I’m team Roadini for Leah, for sure!

 All this talk has me jonesing for that very big red Road custom
 currently on offer at a very reasonable price…

 P. W.
 ~
 (917) 514-2207
 ~




 On May 10, 2024, at 12:37 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:

 Philip - Agreed! My observations on this version may be entirely
 irrelevant to the production version. Although, I will add that nothing in
 that picture says go-fast club rides to me.



 On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 1:29:35 PM UTC-6 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting how differently that Gallop looks, and presumably feels,
> compared to the larger, presumably production verison of the same bike,
> without the swoopy TT, currently at Riv:
>
> [image: IMG_6222]
>
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2024, at 12:23 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Valerie - gorgeous trio of bikes, thank you for sharing. The three
> shown in that order makes it look like the Roadeo morphs into a Hillibike
> and the CHG is the intermediate stage, which is both funny and also
> indicative of its purpose and ride quality, which I'm sure lands squarely
> in between also!
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 12:15 PM Valerie Yates 
> wrote:
>
> I've made an album with pics of my Roadeo, CHG, and Susie. Link to
>> album .  The album
>> includes a poor quality picture of the Gallop with the albastache bars 
>> that
>> were on it when it arrived.
>>
>> Leah - the drop from Will's saddle to bars was an intentional choice.
>> He chose a smaller frame with a raised up saddle to achieve a racier
>> position. My bars on the Roadeo are set fairly level with my saddle. With
>> drop-bar bikes, I tend to choose the frame with the minimum necessary
>> stand-over clearance to ensure I can have level bars without having to
>> 

[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Eric Marth]

Oh and good luck with your search!

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:32:19 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Leah I am excited to hear this because I've been so curious about your 
> strength and speed. If you can keep up with the 17-18mph group on your 
> Platy I'd think you'd be faster than the fast groups on a road bike!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Eric Marth]

Leah I am excited to hear this because I've been so curious about your 
strength and speed. If you can keep up with the 17-18mph group on your 
Platy I'd think you'd be faster than the fast groups on a road bike!

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[RBW] Susie/Gus seat tube OD

[Eric Marth]

Hey all — Can someone please share the OD of the Gus / Susie seat tubes? I 
am bending a custom tag for a friend, he doesn't have the bike with him, 
we'd like to know the OD. 

Thanks!
Eric

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

[Eric Marth]

Phew Stephen enjoy it out there! Looks great, you're going to get strong

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 3:37:15 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> [image: IMG_6708.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6722.jpg][image: IMG_6716.jpg]
>
> A few quick shots from my first week back in the bay area. Getting 
> reacquainted with these hills, steeper than I remember haha.
>
> Stephen in Marin for the summer
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 10:33:16 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Nice shots. Please present us with some pictures of your trip riding in 
>> Wales! 
>>
>> John
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:07:16 AM UTC-7 Nicholas A wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_8915.jpg]
>>>
>>> My Appaloosa in repose on an absolutely glorious Sunday in Dublin, this 
>>> spot is a mere 7km from my house but about 300meters of climbing, I was 
>>> sweatin'. Doing as much riding as possible on this bike in preparation for 
>>> a long weekend in Wales coming up.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Photos from last weekend's overnighter

[Eric Marth]

Wow, the sky

On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 4:44:38 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Beautiful! It never fails that I miss Japan so after seeing your photos. I 
> really love the one of your Hunq among the stars.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 5:51:56 AM UTC-7 diana@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Awesome shots. What size tires were you running?
>>
>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 1:02:49 PM UTC-6 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> That's just perfect. Thanks for sharing. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 12:34:35 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>>>
 Fantastic shots Takashi! I especially like the Starlight shot.

 John
 Portland OR

 On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 7:26:07 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:

> Here are some photos from last weekend's overnighter.
> I rode almost same route last year and two years ago, so I didn't take 
> many photos.
>
> Hunqapillar loaded up.
> For this load, I think TourSacks (rear panniers) would have worked 
> better.
> [image: ov1.jpg]
>
> Momosuke Bridge:
> [image: ov2.jpg]
>
> Short ramble around the campsite:
> [image: ov3.jpg]
>
> [image: ov4.jpg]
>
> Obligatory starlight shot:
> [image: ov5.jpg]
>
> The vertical line is an airplane which happened to fly over me:
> [image: ov6.jpg]
>
> Takashi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] El Rio Grande

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here in the dead flat Sacramento Valley, we call wind a “simulated hill."

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> On May 9, 2024, at 2:43 PM, Bernard Duhon  wrote:
> 
> I feel your pain. The wind here has been steady 20 miles an hour off the Gulf 
> Coast gusting to 30 bills character to ride against the wind like that.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  
> on behalf of Patrick Moore 
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 4:38:56 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] El Rio Grande
>  
> Quick out and back today between work chores. Rode south against SE gusting 
> to 30s, gusts suddenly slowing me in the hooks and 65" underdrive second -- 2 
> Ortlieb Sports Packers in rear did not help.
> 
> Rio Grande in flood -- spring melts in mountains are early this year -- and 
> this is the view from the middle of the river on Montano Blvd NW. Big towhead 
> to left/east; channel to the east of towhead is almost as wide as the west 
> channel shown.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Upright / Relaxed / Swept-Back - Style of Riding

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Quick thought regarding drop bars in response to LuckTurnip:

Almost all of my bikes have drop bars. I have one bike with Soma’s “Oxford” 
bars (a milder version of theAlbatross?) and a Brompton with a straight 
handlebar to which I added forward-facing grip extensions.

On my bikes with drop bars, I ride probably 99% of the time on the tops, 
usually with my hands wrapped around the brake hoods. I find that comfortable 
and it gives me easy access to the brake levers. 

I spend the other 1% of my time in the drops because I’m not concerned about 
aerodynamics. There are plenty of things slowing me down, and assuming an aero 
posture isn’t going to do anything about most of those.

This is of course personal preference, but I like the way drop bars look. I 
have several classic bikes (Alex Singer, Cinelli, Masi) that were set up with 
drop bars and which, I think, would look kinda dumb with upright bars. Kind of 
like a Rambouillet with a polo seat and sissy bar (although some might really 
like that look).

Ride what you want and pick the bike/seat/handlebars that make you feel 
comfortable. But don’t assume that drop bars are going to force you into am 
uncomfortable, crouched posture. 

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> On May 9, 2024, at 11:00 AM, luckytur...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Fellow older person here. I have avoided owning a “fast bike” for years due 
> to drops killin’ me, but I recently acquired this sporty XO-1 and the 
> Albatross bar is perfect for it! I might not actually be fast but I *feel* 
> fast now (compared to my racked and fat-tired Atlantis) so that’s really what 
> matters. Albatross is the GOAT. 
> 
> 
>> On May 9, 2024, at 09:50, Wesley  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jay,
>> I'll second what's been said here and by Rivendell: the Albatross is the 
>> swept-back bar that is least radical / closest to a drop bar.
>> 
>> I first put an Albatross bar on a bike of mine in 2007 and have kept them on 
>> at least one bike ever since. Unlike the other swept-back bars that Riv 
>> sells, they have a great hand position that is slightly forward of the stem 
>> clamp (demonstrated here): 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It's comfy for long hours on the bike. Like you, I find flat bars 
>> uncomfortable (they pain my wrists). With Albatross bars, my wrist position 
>> feels neutral and natural, a lot like on the lever tops on drop bars. The 
>> Albatross bar is on my everyday bike, with the drop bar road bike being used 
>> only when I want a lighter bike.
>> -Wes 
>> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 6:28:41 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:
>>> I was always aware of bikes with a very relaxed geometry / setup, and it 
>>> wasn't until I started seeing Rivendell bikes and watching youtube videos 
>>> of people riding them that I really thought about it - is it more 
>>> comfortable than drop bars, even if I have a more neutral (not aggressive) 
>>> position on the bike (i.e., bars close to level with saddle)?  Would this 
>>> be a good option for just cruising around, but for 1-2 hours?  If I didn't 
>>> get along well with flat bars on mountain bike, would swept back bars be 
>>> better?
>>> 
>>> I'm going to ramble a bit here, my apologies in advance.  I haven't thought 
>>> long enough about this to formulate my question succinctly.  Hopefully you 
>>> get where I'm coming from.
>>> 
>>> Quick background
>>> - been riding a little over 20 years (closing in on 50!)
>>> - started with mountain biking (hardtail, singletrack); moved to road; 
>>> tried mountain biking two more times (I love being in nature) but didn't 
>>> like the thrill/danger, and hated the idea of driving to the trail head; 
>>> have been mainly on the road for last 15 years, though with 10 years of 
>>> 'gravel' bikes/riding
>>> - I've had ongoing issues with my cervical spine (nothing serious) and this 
>>> leads to some problems when riding in any sort of aggressive position on 
>>> the bike; I see a chiro regularly; stretch a lot; workout / strength 
>>> training; have had numerous bike fits
>>> - I have a Roadini, Salsa Fargo and a road bike (25mm tires, but custom 
>>> made and really does fit like a glove, for road)
>>> - I don't care about performance at all, I just love riding bikes, in 
>>> particular when roads are not busy, or on trails, gravel roads, etc.
>>> 
>>> On a good day (75% of the time), I can ride any of these bikes and during 
>>> the ride I feel pretty good (little to no pain), maybe a bit of pain after 
>>> (could be neck/shoulders, but anywhere else rea

Re: [RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen Photo Thread

[Eric Marth]

Paul has neglected to share the beautiful patina that his bronze headbadge 
has acquired. Trust me, it's really good! 

On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 2:00:12 PM UTC-4 Paul Richardson wrote:

> here's mine--a 67cm waterford i've had since 2011, and had repainted in 
> wisconsin last year (just in time!).  it's the best bike in the world.  
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[Eric Marth]

JohnS: Thanks for the pics, nice looking Bolt there, love all the brown. 
How's the Swift? Or is that a Swallow? I need a brown saddle for my 
Hillborne and like the fit of the black Brooks Pro I have. Love the shop 
and the grainy photos! That's the stuff. Thanks for sharing. 

George: Well that's a beautiful level you have there, are you sure you want 
to go through the trouble of sending it my way? Have you checked it for 
accuracy? Sometimes those old spirit levels can have problems with the 
vials and bubbles. I have a full set of Stabila levels so I am equipped 
though that old Stanley sure is handsome... 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 1:50:22 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Eric - since you have a fascination with old tools that kind of have class 
> or character, would you be interested in this very old *wooden* carpenter's 
> level?  I believe that it belonged to my great uncle who was a physician, 
> not a tradesman, but someone who used to like working with wood and doing a 
> lot of things by himself as an amateur handyman.  On the metal parts it 
> says "Stanley rule and level."  There are no inch markings anyplace, but 
> the dimensions are suspiciously identical to what a carpenter would use for 
> measuring typical construction widths and lengths: it's 2 ft. long x 3.125" 
> wide x 1.325" thick.  It can be yours for the asking if you're interested.  
> I'm trying to get rid of as much of my stash of stuff as possible as I head 
> into the mid-70's.
>
> [image: DSCN1050.JPG]
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 8:47:48 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> JohnS: I clicked the link and got a 404. Would love to see the Bolt, 
>> those are really sweet bikes. 
>>
>> Steve: Thanks, bud! Rob Gassie removed the bottom bracket, he's the frame 
>> builder who stripped and painted the bike for me. He said he put the frame 
>> in his alignment table (really big fixture, lots of clamps, allowed for 
>> maximum torque) and was able to bust it loose. I don't know the origins of 
>> my Sam but there were many details about the build that leave me thinking 
>> it was not originally assembled very carefully. 
>>
>> Roberta: Thank you for watching! Garden's looking even better now, just a 
>> few weeks later. Though I noticed yesterday a groundhog ate one of my 
>> coleus plants. 
>>
>> George: Thank you thank you. The glasses are a P3 shape but I didn't 
>> think the lenses were particularly thick? I think of pop bottle glasses as 
>> having the effect of looking through the bottom of an old glass Coca-Cola 
>> bottle... I still wear glasses, wearing them right now. My hair's naturally 
>> pretty dark but I haven't had a haircut since Nov 2022 and I spend a lot of 
>> time in the sun so it's lighter from exposure.  
>>
>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-4 george schick wrote:
>>
>>> Eric - an excellent filming of your workshop and exterior plantings.  
>>> What a nice place to live and do your work.  I was reminded, though, of a 
>>> similar but not quite as professional episode as this one from several 
>>> years ago where you were doing a rebuild of a mixte that your "partner's" 
>>> parents gave her - some Japanese manufacturer, I think.  I recognized that 
>>> the scenes of your shop are the same as your current video, but it's a 
>>> "different Eric Marth!"  Pop bottle glasses, dark hair, etc.  What happened?
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:00:47 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone for watchin'! 
>>>>
>>>> Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with 
>>>> Bob Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to 
>>>> my shirt so I went for the long mic. 
>>>>
>>>> Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening 
>>>> woes, I know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles 
>>>> here! I was in a different house about 10 years ago and the garden was a 
>>>> lot of work but it was abundant and without many difficulties. The soil 
>>>> and 
>>>> sun are different in this spot and growing has taken a lot of trial and 
>>>> error. I'm finally getting the hang of things. A groundhog just showed up 
>>>> on the scene, I saw them (unsure if it's a male or female) heartily eating 
>>>> some lettuce while sitting in the raised bed earlier this week! It's 
>>>> fenced 
>>>> off but they found a way in. I have to admit it was kind of cute, holding 
>>>> a 
>>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Appaloosa Double Top Tube Disc Brake

[Eric Swain]

Sorry, Johnny. Sold the bike as pictured. Those racks pop up on here every
now and then, be patient.


On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 9:20 AM Johnny Burrell 
wrote:

> If you sold it parted out, I'd love to have the Mark's front rack.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:18:19 AM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:
>
>> Sold.
>>
>> On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 10:59:51 AM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.
>>>
>>> I'd also part it out. Frame/fork/headset/seat post/front rack/stem
>>> $1000.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 4:38:40 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice. I find disc-brake retro-equipped Rivendells rather interesting; I
>>>> know another person retrofitted them to a very nice Atlantis.
>>>>
>>>> Who else has done this, and why?
>>>>
>>>> Me, I like discs for dirt riding tho' they don't add anything for my
>>>> pavement riding.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 4:56 PM eric swain  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And here is a full list of parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frame & fork: 58cm Joe Appaloosa with double top tubes AND disc brake
>>>>> tabs added by Walt Works.
>>>>> Headset: Tange Levin CDS
>>>>> Stem:  Crust/Nitto, 31.8mm, 75mm, silver
>>>>> Handlebars: Tumbleweed Persuader, steel, cut to 760mm
>>>>> Grips: DMR Deathgrip
>>>>> Brake levers: Shimano BL-M600
>>>>> Brakes: Paul Klampers, long pull, Paul brake adapters. Avid Clean
>>>>> Sweep G2 160mm Rotors
>>>>> Shifters: Shimano XT SL-M750
>>>>> Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore RD-M591
>>>>> Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT Triple
>>>>> Cassette: Sram PG-950 9 speed, 11-34
>>>>> Chain: Sram PC-951
>>>>> Cranks: Shimano Deore FC-MT60, 175mm, 110/74 bcd, Shimano chain rings
>>>>> 46t/30t(46 mounted in the middle position, 30 in the small ring position)
>>>>> Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 68 x 118mm
>>>>> Pedals: No pedals, I'm keeping the Speedplay platforms currently
>>>>> installed.
>>>>> Hubs: Profile Racing Elite 6 bolt disc, 32h, black, QR, HG 11 speed
>>>>> road freehub body, Shimano XT skewers. I'll also include the end caps and
>>>>> hardware to convert hubs to bolt on.
>>>>> Rims: Sun Ringle Rhyno Lites, 32h, black with machined sidewalls
>>>>> Spokes/nipples, DT Swiss Competition, black, DT Swiss silver brass
>>>>> nipples
>>>>> Tires: Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 50, regular inner tubes
>>>>> Seat Post: Thomson Elite, silver. I'll include the Nitto post as well.
>>>>> Saddle: Brooks Cambium C17
>>>>> Front rack: Nitto Mark's Rack, silver with Wald 137 Basket
>>>>> Fenders: Planet Bike Cascadia 29 x 65mm, Black
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of you may remember I tried selling my Appaloosa back in 2020.
>>>>>> Well at that time I decided to keep it, change a few parts, and have 
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> enjoyed it since then. Fun bike to ride, great set up for commuting,
>>>>>> running errands, dawdling around the neighborhood, and general bicycle
>>>>>> shenanigans. Fast forward to present times: my quiver has grown to a
>>>>>> ridiculous amount of bikes, my personal riding focus has shifted, I have 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> new bike on the way, and I may be moving soon. I do not have room for 
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> bike and with a potential move I need scale back on large items, like
>>>>>> bikes. So this one is back up for sale!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am asking $2000 as pictured(minus pedals). Including the Outershell
>>>>>> Wald 137 basket bag, Makeshifter Snackhole stem bag, Zefal frame pump, 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> Gino light mount, and King cages. Bike is located in Portland OR. Test
>>>>>> rides are welcome. Boxing and shipping is no problem. Here is a link to
>>>>>> more pics and the geo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/119mQzJCLMtSAMxge007HSiDUI9lv76W4?usp=sharing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[Eric Marth]

JohnS: I clicked the link and got a 404. Would love to see the Bolt, those 
are really sweet bikes. 

Steve: Thanks, bud! Rob Gassie removed the bottom bracket, he's the frame 
builder who stripped and painted the bike for me. He said he put the frame 
in his alignment table (really big fixture, lots of clamps, allowed for 
maximum torque) and was able to bust it loose. I don't know the origins of 
my Sam but there were many details about the build that leave me thinking 
it was not originally assembled very carefully. 

Roberta: Thank you for watching! Garden's looking even better now, just a 
few weeks later. Though I noticed yesterday a groundhog ate one of my 
coleus plants. 

George: Thank you thank you. The glasses are a P3 shape but I didn't think 
the lenses were particularly thick? I think of pop bottle glasses as having 
the effect of looking through the bottom of an old glass Coca-Cola 
bottle... I still wear glasses, wearing them right now. My hair's naturally 
pretty dark but I haven't had a haircut since Nov 2022 and I spend a lot of 
time in the sun so it's lighter from exposure.  

On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 8:05:51 PM UTC-4 george schick wrote:

> Eric - an excellent filming of your workshop and exterior plantings.  What 
> a nice place to live and do your work.  I was reminded, though, of a 
> similar but not quite as professional episode as this one from several 
> years ago where you were doing a rebuild of a mixte that your "partner's" 
> parents gave her - some Japanese manufacturer, I think.  I recognized that 
> the scenes of your shop are the same as your current video, but it's a 
> "different Eric Marth!"  Pop bottle glasses, dark hair, etc.  What happened?
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 10:00:47 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for watchin'! 
>>
>> Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with Bob 
>> Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to my 
>> shirt so I went for the long mic. 
>>
>> Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening woes, 
>> I know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles here! I 
>> was in a different house about 10 years ago and the garden was a lot of 
>> work but it was abundant and without many difficulties. The soil and sun 
>> are different in this spot and growing has taken a lot of trial and error. 
>> I'm finally getting the hang of things. A groundhog just showed up on the 
>> scene, I saw them (unsure if it's a male or female) heartily eating some 
>> lettuce while sitting in the raised bed earlier this week! It's fenced off 
>> but they found a way in. I have to admit it was kind of cute, holding a 
>> huge piece of lettuce, but it still left me cursing. I'm glad you like the 
>> tools!
>>
>> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, and I forwarded the video link to Jeremiah; he will appreciate it.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug Build Catalog

[Eric Marth]

Great point about size, Jason. It really helps to visualize the proportions 

On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 9:46:05 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> There is truly no equal to Blue Lug. As Eric said, the combination of 
> perfectly curated builds combined with excellent photography and an eye for 
> getting the best angles. A lot of great shops out there, but BL are on 
> their own level. 
>
> I also really appreciate how they note the frame size for each build - I 
> think we all want to see what bikes look like in our size when being 
> inspired. 
>
> On Saturday 4 May 2024 at 14:54:26 UTC-7 r.ha...@live.com wrote:
>
>> I too have this bookmarked and my Clem L is heavily influenced by them. 
>> Also a great website to order from. Turnaround is super quick and you get a 
>> bunch of stickers
>>
>> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:13:45 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah, this is a gallery I have bookmarked. So many great builds and 
>>> lots and lots of inspiration. They always nail it, great ideas abound! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:27:09 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Many of you may already be aware of this, but Blue Lug has a nice 
>>>> catalog of all it's Riv Builds for customers. In the even you want some 
>>>> inspiration for your next build, or just want to see some different takes 
>>>> on each frame, have a look:
>>>>
>>>> https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/
>>>>
>>>> If you click the dropdown in the top right corner and scroll down to 
>>>> the Riv section you can even filter for specific models. Been super 
>>>> helpful 
>>>> as I accrue the things needed for my upcoming 56cm 2TT Sam I scored from 
>>>> Abe on here.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully helpful for folks looking to build out that next frame or 
>>>> rebuild your old favorite!
>>>>
>>>> - Drew
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

[Eric Marth]

Nice photos, Nicholas! I rarely see an Appaloosa or Atlantis with drops, 
tell us how you like it! It looks like a nice setup all around
On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:07:49 AM UTC-4 Nicholas A wrote:

> Then, to demonstrate the fickle nature of Irish weather, the very next 
> morning on the other side of this hill still great to get out for a 
> solid 50kms. Once you get this bike rolling there's no stopping it, I 
> overtook a good few
> groups of roadies on the climbs which is very gratifying in a smug sort of 
> way.
>
> [image: IMG_8929.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday 7 May 2024 at 10:07:16 UTC+1 Nicholas A wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_8915.jpg]
>>
>> My Appaloosa in repose on an absolutely glorious Sunday in Dublin, this 
>> spot is a mere 7km from my house but about 300meters of climbing, I was 
>> sweatin'. Doing as much riding as possible on this bike in preparation for 
>> a long weekend in Wales coming up.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for watchin'! 

Marty: The Match Game was before my time but I certainly came up with Bob 
Barker. The $20 corded mic I bought just didn't seem right clipped to my 
shirt so I went for the long mic. 

Patrick: I appreciate the kind notes. Sorry about the SW gardening woes, I 
know nothing of gardening in that clime. I've had my own troubles here! I 
was in a different house about 10 years ago and the garden was a lot of 
work but it was abundant and without many difficulties. The soil and sun 
are different in this spot and growing has taken a lot of trial and error. 
I'm finally getting the hang of things. A groundhog just showed up on the 
scene, I saw them (unsure if it's a male or female) heartily eating some 
lettuce while sitting in the raised bed earlier this week! It's fenced off 
but they found a way in. I have to admit it was kind of cute, holding a 
huge piece of lettuce, but it still left me cursing. I'm glad you like the 
tools!

On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Oh, and I forwarded the video link to Jeremiah; he will appreciate it.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Scam alert? I'm so confused. Blue Homer in LA? ND?

[Eric Marth]

Kim: I don't see how the administrator of this forum has any bearing on 
someone's Facebook post. The scam is potentially occurring via Facebook, 
not our forum. You reposted the FB listing here with a link. 

Regarding the Blue Lug purchase, how on earth were you "scammed" by Blue 
Lug? They are one of the best bike shops in the universe and I'm sure they 
would correct any mistake or problem with your purchase. I dislike like the 
implication that Blue Lug would scam anyone. 

Regarding scams and buying/selling: If anything about the listing or your 
interactions with a seller makes you uncomfortable or sets off *any* alarms 
just drop the exchange and walk away. It's easy! If it's too good to be 
true, it probably is. Although sometimes you have to know when to snag a 
deal like when someone posts a Nitto S83 seatpost for $30. Sellers should 
be happy and eager to share photos or details about frames or bikes for 
sale. 

Here on the forum it's easy to check someone's history simply by searching 
their email address and reviewing their past posts to see if they 
participate in discussions, buy and sell goods and you can get a sense of 
how long they've been part of the community. All common sense stuff. 

Also — Don't end up handing $50,000 in cash to a stranger on the street! 
https://www.thecut.com/article/amazon-scam-call-ftc-arrest-warrants.html

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 8:00:50 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I concur. I sent this scammer Leah's way unknowingly. Stay away from this 
> person. In this case his "cousin" just bought a Homer and so was selling 
> his Roadini. He must troll this group for want to buy posts and pounces.  
> Karma is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or 
> consequences. Here's hoping that a little karma is heading his way.
> Doug
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote:
>
>> Bad experience with Jeff and the “seller,” he directed me to with a Homer 
>> as well!
>>
>> I posted that I want to buy a Mustard frameset.  
>> Jeff directed me to his friend, and it went very badly from there. 
>>  Fortunately, I sent no payment.
>>
>> I also reported this to Admin.  
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 3, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That Jeff McCathern guy tried to sell me a Roadini. He’s a scammer. I 
>> wasn’t brave enough to say so publicly, but I will now.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 6:25:52 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Kim, the link takes us directly to a blue lug page. How did you get 
>>> scammed?  
>>>
>>> BTW, I’ve gotten scammed too — with eBay. I will never not buy directly 
>>> from the seller. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:29:57 AM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Brenton-
 I am sorry to hear and see you go through this ordeal. I wish it was 
 not so.

 The administrator for this RBWOB group is Jim - cyclo...@gmail.com
 Your message may take a day or two for him to respond. I hope he can 
 help you.

 My regards,
 Kim Hetzel.
 I got scammed too last year over these - 
 https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/27109/s/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap/category/1321/
   
 last year.

 On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 9:17:48 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> The more I think about this the more fired up I get. I've had so many 
> pleasant exchanges here, both transactional and non-transactional, that I 
> feel protective of this group. If no scam is happening, no one will be 
> bummed on me sharing out a phone number and email. 
>
> I was direct messaged from 'Jeff McCathern' via *jeff00m...@gmail.com* 
> who said they were friends with a seller named "Leonard" and I gave my 
> phone number to that emailer.
>
> The text message correspondence was with phone number *424-269-2563 
> <(424)%20269-2563>* which got super cryptic and scammy. When they 
> told me the bike was in LA, I said I would happily have a friend (I have 
> lots of friends in LA, some are in this group!) meet up to buy the bike, 
> they accused me of being cautious and suggested a deposit.
>
> Not sure who the admins of this group are, but everything about this 
> says *scam*. I would love to be wrong.
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 8:48:01 PM UTC-7 Brenton Eastman wrote:
>
>> Hi. I've been searching for a blue homer in 54.5 for my wife and in 
>> my ISO post I was linked to this facebook listing:
>>
>> " @Brenton -
>> If you go FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycle BUY/SELL/TRADE, there is a blue 
>> Homer under the owner's name of 
>> *Payton Beargrr* 
>> 

[RBW] Re: Blue Lug Build Catalog

[Eric Marth]

If you're wondering "How do I tastefully build and specify a bike?" this is 
the *perfect* place to start. They also do a great job with the 
photographs, some of the best out there. 

On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 3:13:45 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Oh yeah, this is a gallery I have bookmarked. So many great builds and 
> lots and lots of inspiration. They always nail it, great ideas abound! 
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:27:09 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Many of you may already be aware of this, but Blue Lug has a nice catalog 
>> of all it's Riv Builds for customers. In the even you want some inspiration 
>> for your next build, or just want to see some different takes on each 
>> frame, have a look:
>>
>> https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/
>>
>> If you click the dropdown in the top right corner and scroll down to the 
>> Riv section you can even filter for specific models. Been super helpful as 
>> I accrue the things needed for my upcoming 56cm 2TT Sam I scored from Abe 
>> on here.
>>
>> Hopefully helpful for folks looking to build out that next frame or 
>> rebuild your old favorite!
>>
>> - Drew
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug Build Catalog

[Eric Marth]

Oh yeah, this is a gallery I have bookmarked. So many great builds and lots 
and lots of inspiration. They always nail it, great ideas abound! 

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 10:27:09 AM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Many of you may already be aware of this, but Blue Lug has a nice catalog 
> of all it's Riv Builds for customers. In the even you want some inspiration 
> for your next build, or just want to see some different takes on each 
> frame, have a look:
>
> https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/model/rivendell-bicycle-works/
>
> If you click the dropdown in the top right corner and scroll down to the 
> Riv section you can even filter for specific models. Been super helpful as 
> I accrue the things needed for my upcoming 56cm 2TT Sam I scored from Abe 
> on here.
>
> Hopefully helpful for folks looking to build out that next frame or 
> rebuild your old favorite!
>
> - Drew
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Appaloosa Double Top Tube Disc Brake

[eric swain]

Sold. 

On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 10:59:51 AM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:

> Bump. 
>
> I'd also part it out. Frame/fork/headset/seat post/front rack/stem $1000. 
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 4:38:40 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Nice. I find disc-brake retro-equipped Rivendells rather interesting; I 
>> know another person retrofitted them to a very nice Atlantis.
>>
>> Who else has done this, and why?
>>
>> Me, I like discs for dirt riding tho' they don't add anything for my 
>> pavement riding.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 4:56 PM eric swain  wrote:
>>
>>> And here is a full list of parts.
>>>
>>> Frame & fork: 58cm Joe Appaloosa with double top tubes AND disc brake 
>>> tabs added by Walt Works.
>>> Headset: Tange Levin CDS
>>> Stem:  Crust/Nitto, 31.8mm, 75mm, silver 
>>> Handlebars: Tumbleweed Persuader, steel, cut to 760mm 
>>> Grips: DMR Deathgrip
>>> Brake levers: Shimano BL-M600
>>> Brakes: Paul Klampers, long pull, Paul brake adapters. Avid Clean Sweep 
>>> G2 160mm Rotors
>>> Shifters: Shimano XT SL-M750
>>> Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore RD-M591
>>> Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT Triple
>>> Cassette: Sram PG-950 9 speed, 11-34
>>> Chain: Sram PC-951
>>> Cranks: Shimano Deore FC-MT60, 175mm, 110/74 bcd, Shimano chain rings 
>>> 46t/30t(46 mounted in the middle position, 30 in the small ring position)
>>> Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 68 x 118mm
>>> Pedals: No pedals, I'm keeping the Speedplay platforms currently 
>>> installed. 
>>> Hubs: Profile Racing Elite 6 bolt disc, 32h, black, QR, HG 11 speed road 
>>> freehub body, Shimano XT skewers. I'll also include the end caps and 
>>> hardware to convert hubs to bolt on.
>>> Rims: Sun Ringle Rhyno Lites, 32h, black with machined sidewalls
>>> Spokes/nipples, DT Swiss Competition, black, DT Swiss silver brass 
>>> nipples
>>> Tires: Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 50, regular inner tubes
>>> Seat Post: Thomson Elite, silver. I'll include the Nitto post as well.
>>> Saddle: Brooks Cambium C17
>>> Front rack: Nitto Mark's Rack, silver with Wald 137 Basket
>>> Fenders: Planet Bike Cascadia 29 x 65mm, Black
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>
>>>> Some of you may remember I tried selling my Appaloosa back in 2020. 
>>>> Well at that time I decided to keep it, change a few parts, and have 
>>>> really 
>>>> enjoyed it since then. Fun bike to ride, great set up for commuting, 
>>>> running errands, dawdling around the neighborhood, and general bicycle 
>>>> shenanigans. Fast forward to present times: my quiver has grown to a 
>>>> ridiculous amount of bikes, my personal riding focus has shifted, I have a 
>>>> new bike on the way, and I may be moving soon. I do not have room for 
>>>> every 
>>>> bike and with a potential move I need scale back on large items, like 
>>>> bikes. So this one is back up for sale! 
>>>>
>>>> I am asking $2000 as pictured(minus pedals). Including the Outershell 
>>>> Wald 137 basket bag, Makeshifter Snackhole stem bag, Zefal frame pump, 
>>>> Paul 
>>>> Gino light mount, and King cages. Bike is located in Portland OR. Test 
>>>> rides are welcome. Boxing and shipping is no problem. Here is a link to 
>>>> more pics and the geo.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/119mQzJCLMtSAMxge007HSiDUI9lv76W4?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Eric
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cockpit bag/cup holder

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This one:

https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Cockpit/MountainFeedbag

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> What is the best cockpit cup holder ya'll have explored and used?  Ideally it 
> could alos hold a phone at times, and be somewhat versatile with cups, 
> bottles, etc.
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[RBW] Re: Eric M.'s new video: Shop tour, favorite workshops, tool organization and my next bicycle build

[Eric Marth]

Wow, thanks for the kind words, Jim! Always a pleasure, sorry this one's so 
long. The uncut version was like 2 hours. 

On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 11:32:09 AM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> So good, a pleasure to watch. Thanks for the great work, Eric! 
>
> Check it out here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMf-7Kq-g8k
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[RBW] Re: Jimmy's Hunq!!1

[Eric Marth]

Well it's a total jaw-dropper, well done, bravo, enjoy the ride! 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 3:55:21 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> Thanks Eric and Jim! Will's blog post was the first I saw of the full 
> paint job and the build. Up to yesterday afternoon I had only seen a few 
> low res teaser images, so I've been soaking in Will's fantastic photos. I'm 
> blown away by the care and detail of Rick's paint job. I had told Rick that 
> I hope he has fun with the bike, and it feels like he did. And Antonio did 
> such a clean, lovely build. Thanks Antonio! I can't wait to see the bike in 
> person. And to ride it!
>
> @Jim, the blue ring around the pump peg really got me, too, as did the 
> lining around the top and bottom of the head tube and the little circle 
> cutouts in the fork crown. Incredible detail and beyond what I was 
> expecting.
>
> @Eric, thanks for the kind words. I can see the deep rusty pink tones now 
> that you mention it. Like I said in the writeup, copper is super tricky. 
> There are so many colors posing as copper! You've got a great eye about 
> the lime green Newbaum's with amber shellac. I went back and forth on 
> tape and Will urged the lime. I'm stoked about how it turned out. 
>
> This project has been a long time in the making. Everyone I worked with, 
> directly and indirectly — Rick on the paint, Rich on the wheels, Will and 
> the entire Rivendell crew on everything else — was super welcoming, 
> accessible, and engaging. And they made the entire process a lot of fun, 
> which above all is what bikes should be about as far as I'm concerned. 
>
> Jim
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:55:46 PM UTC-4 Jim in Mpls wrote:
>
>> The blue ring around the pump peg really pushed me over the edge! Amazing 
>> detailing!
>> Jim
>>
>> On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 11:26:50 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Oh me. Oh my. Wowee wee wow wow! The Hunq from this week's email update 
>>> is a real stunner. Will's photos, as usual, really bring it to life. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/jimmys-hunqapillar?mc_cid=a24d941b71_eid=592b20cfa2
>>>
>>> [image: jimmyshunq-1_1400x copy.png]
>>>
>>> Many of you know that I'm a fan of patinated copper and brass. Even so 
>>> the colors didn't register to me as being from the family of weathered 
>>> brass, copper or bronze. It looks like a deep rusty pink to my eye. I love 
>>> it all the same! From Jimmy's description it sounds like he and painted 
>>> Rick at D went back and forth to divine a great paint selection. Well 
>>> done, I must say. 
>>>
>>> The blue cable housing and lug lines, the bar tape. An awesome blend of 
>>> XTR. I'd wager that's the lime green Newbaum's with amber shellac, a bold 
>>> choice indeed that achieves a nice bronzed olive. Beautiful all around. 
>>> This bike looks like a blast. 
>>>
>>> [image: jimmyshunq-12_1400x copy.png]
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Wooly Warm sleeveless merino tank

[Eric Marth]

Hello friends — Cross-posted wool search happenin here and on iBob :0)  

I have an older Wooly Warm sleeveless tank that I purchased used and I 
really like it. If you have one in size large or extra-large that you're 
willing to part with please drop me a note and let me know your price 
shipped to 22401. Color, condition and/or a picture would be helpful as 
well. 

Thanks! 
Eric in Virginia 

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Re: [RBW] The 3x1 road bike. Anticipating some of your RoadUNO builds

[Eric Daume]

I've had a Melvin in my parts stash for years that's looking for a reason,
so this build kind of appeals to me. But, out here in the flatlands, I
don't really need three super widely spaced gears. With my
cruising (normally fixed) gear of 44x17, maybe something like 44/40/36,
about 10% jumps. Hmm, maybe I'll see what rings I have in stock.

Eric
Plain City, OH

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> Thanks to unintentional prodding from Leah, I've pressed my new-to-me
> Romulus into service.  Some serindipitous objects in my parts inventory
> enabled a build concept that is functionally similar to the forthcoming
> RoadUNO.  It's got a single 18T freewheel, a Paul Melvin tensioner (from
> Joe B), a triple crank with 46/36/24 rings and a single DT shifter for the
> front derailleur.  This morning I "upgraded" the front derailleur to a
> Campy Mirage, which qualifies this bike for my "Every Bike should have one
> Campy Part" club:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157719595208740/
>
> The other upgrade from this morning is I swapped out the front wheel to a
> quick release front hub, rather than the bolt-on Phil track hub.  I will
> likely rebuild that Phil front wheel with a dynamo hub.  Now the F+R hubs
> are both black.  Also, I "downgraded" to much skinnier tires.  This
> accomplishes two things: It allows wheel removal without deflation -AND- it
> generates ample clearance for fenders.  The three gears are 35/53/68 inches
> with these tires.
>
> I'm becoming progressively more and more "SOLD" on the validity of 3x1 as
> a build concept.  It works.  I may end up doing my May 2024 monthly Diablo
> summit on the RoadTrio.
>
> Even though I'm not buying a RoadUNO, I'm excited to see who else gives
> 3x1 a try with an open mind and concurs that it works for them.
>
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Re: [RBW] Bombadil camping trip

[Eric Marth]

Beautiful pics and badass ride as per your usual, Jason! Thanks for 
sharing, that's one I'd love to have joined you for. 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 10:27:58 AM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Love your photos, as always… made even better with descriptive ride 
> reports!
>
> On Apr 26, 2024, at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:
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> Thanks for sharing! Your Bombadil looks good out there haulin'. I would 
> absolutely love to get myself and a bike out to Vancouver island someday.
>
> John in Minnesota
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Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

[Eric Daume]

I have to admit, my only centerpull experience is with bolt on Dia Compes
and Weimnmans, none of the fancy brakes.

Then again, blue collar V brakes work great.

Eric

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:55 PM Josiah Anderson 
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> I agree both with Bill's "it depends" and Eric's "(some) centerpulls are
> spooky weak when wet." That depends on the centerpulls. DC750s, for
> example, I would agree are marginal-to-dangerous when wet, which I
> attribute to their flexy arms and low mechanical advantage. Mafac Racers
> and Raids, however, are the equal of any brake I've used, dry or wet or
> icy, *when set up well* and with salmon pads. I have not used René Herse
> centerpulls, but since they're basically Raid copies I'd expect them to be
> excellent as well, which matches what I've heard about them. V-brakes seem
> to have fewer possibilities for variation in performance because they're so
> standardized in design and simple to set up, and therefore people don't
> experience bad ones as often. Bad v-brakes do exist but they usually come
> from Walmart.
>
> Josiah Anderson
> Missoula, MT
>
> Le jeu. 25 avr. 2024 à 15:28, Eric Daume  a écrit :
>
>> Bill says “it depends,” but I can only offer my experience, which is that
>> both are adequate in the dry, but centerpulls are spooky weak when the rims
>> are wet. Centerpulls do look nicer, but in every performance category, V
>> brakes are a clear and easy win for me.
>>
>> Eric
>> V brake fan
>>
>> On Thursday, April 25, 2024, Robert Calton  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious what the differences are between these two types of brakes
>>> with regards to their respective maintenance and general use. Is one easier
>>> to adjust and keep in good riding order than the other? Does one feel
>>> fundamentally different than the other during the ride?
>>>
>>> I've read that "stopping power" is greater on v-brakes, but is it really
>>> *that* much better to hold out for a frame that supports v-brakes? Are
>>> there other factors I'm overlooking other than stopping power? I wouldn't
>>> run more than 43mm tires and fenders.
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Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

[Eric Daume]

Bill says “it depends,” but I can only offer my experience, which is that
both are adequate in the dry, but centerpulls are spooky weak when the rims
are wet. Centerpulls do look nicer, but in every performance category, V
brakes are a clear and easy win for me.

Eric
V brake fan

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> I'm curious what the differences are between these two types of brakes
> with regards to their respective maintenance and general use. Is one easier
> to adjust and keep in good riding order than the other? Does one feel
> fundamentally different than the other during the ride?
>
> I've read that "stopping power" is greater on v-brakes, but is it really
> *that* much better to hold out for a frame that supports v-brakes? Are
> there other factors I'm overlooking other than stopping power? I wouldn't
> run more than 43mm tires and fenders.
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[RBW] Grant's Mountain

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Not taken today—I shot this in 2018 while flying home for a work trip to 
Southern California. Grant’s Mountain here looks more like Mt Doom than Mt 
Diablo.



>From the (perhaps) upcoming folio, 鬼山36景 (36 Views of Mt Diablo).

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Appaloosa Double Top Tube Disc Brake

[eric swain]

Bump. 

I'd also part it out. Frame/fork/headset/seat post/front rack/stem $1000. 

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 4:38:40 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Nice. I find disc-brake retro-equipped Rivendells rather interesting; I 
> know another person retrofitted them to a very nice Atlantis.
>
> Who else has done this, and why?
>
> Me, I like discs for dirt riding tho' they don't add anything for my 
> pavement riding.
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 4:56 PM eric swain  wrote:
>
>> And here is a full list of parts.
>>
>> Frame & fork: 58cm Joe Appaloosa with double top tubes AND disc brake 
>> tabs added by Walt Works.
>> Headset: Tange Levin CDS
>> Stem:  Crust/Nitto, 31.8mm, 75mm, silver 
>> Handlebars: Tumbleweed Persuader, steel, cut to 760mm 
>> Grips: DMR Deathgrip
>> Brake levers: Shimano BL-M600
>> Brakes: Paul Klampers, long pull, Paul brake adapters. Avid Clean Sweep 
>> G2 160mm Rotors
>> Shifters: Shimano XT SL-M750
>> Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore RD-M591
>> Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT Triple
>> Cassette: Sram PG-950 9 speed, 11-34
>> Chain: Sram PC-951
>> Cranks: Shimano Deore FC-MT60, 175mm, 110/74 bcd, Shimano chain rings 
>> 46t/30t(46 mounted in the middle position, 30 in the small ring position)
>> Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 68 x 118mm
>> Pedals: No pedals, I'm keeping the Speedplay platforms currently 
>> installed. 
>> Hubs: Profile Racing Elite 6 bolt disc, 32h, black, QR, HG 11 speed road 
>> freehub body, Shimano XT skewers. I'll also include the end caps and 
>> hardware to convert hubs to bolt on.
>> Rims: Sun Ringle Rhyno Lites, 32h, black with machined sidewalls
>> Spokes/nipples, DT Swiss Competition, black, DT Swiss silver brass nipples
>> Tires: Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 50, regular inner tubes
>> Seat Post: Thomson Elite, silver. I'll include the Nitto post as well.
>> Saddle: Brooks Cambium C17
>> Front rack: Nitto Mark's Rack, silver with Wald 137 Basket
>> Fenders: Planet Bike Cascadia 29 x 65mm, Black
>>
>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Some of you may remember I tried selling my Appaloosa back in 2020. Well 
>>> at that time I decided to keep it, change a few parts, and have really 
>>> enjoyed it since then. Fun bike to ride, great set up for commuting, 
>>> running errands, dawdling around the neighborhood, and general bicycle 
>>> shenanigans. Fast forward to present times: my quiver has grown to a 
>>> ridiculous amount of bikes, my personal riding focus has shifted, I have a 
>>> new bike on the way, and I may be moving soon. I do not have room for every 
>>> bike and with a potential move I need scale back on large items, like 
>>> bikes. So this one is back up for sale! 
>>>
>>> I am asking $2000 as pictured(minus pedals). Including the Outershell 
>>> Wald 137 basket bag, Makeshifter Snackhole stem bag, Zefal frame pump, Paul 
>>> Gino light mount, and King cages. Bike is located in Portland OR. Test 
>>> rides are welcome. Boxing and shipping is no problem. Here is a link to 
>>> more pics and the geo.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/119mQzJCLMtSAMxge007HSiDUI9lv76W4?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco MMM build photos

[Eric Marth]

This is a sweet build! I'd like to get one of those White Industries / 
Sugino cranks some day. 

Is there any write-up or an ancient email about the idea behind the frame 
design? Will's Massive Mountain Mixte. Do we have an oral history at least? 

Are you gonna wire up a dynamo back up in the future? 

On Tuesday, April 16, 2024 at 7:14:17 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Nope! Mmmassive it is!! Glad it’s tasting proper trail dirt with those 
> knobbies. And so beautifully blue? I thought it was brown!
> -Kai
>
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:19:52 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> JK, thanks for the clarification Kai, my tired brain couldn't remember 
>> what the third m stood for... loving the bike!
>>
>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 9:15:17 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Massive mountain mixte!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 21:08 Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
 Love it!!!

 On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:59:50 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
 wrote:

> Wowzers!  That is beautiful, but it’s no MMM…
> WMM or JMM (Will or Jumbo) maybe, but nowheres close to Medium 
> Happy shredding!
> -Kai
> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Couple more:
>>
>> [image: IMG_6627.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6629.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_6630.jpg]
>> On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> Wanted to share some pics of my (sorta) recently new to me rosco as 
>>> I settle in and keep personalizing it. 
>>>
>>> I bought this bike from list member Kai back in February I think. I 
>>> really wasn't trying to expand the stable at that moment, but the riv 
>>> mixte 
>>> propaganda had been working on my subconscious and Kai was selling this 
>>> thing a 15 minute ride away, and well, in the end I couldn't help 
>>> myself. 
>>>
>>> This past week or so I've been diving into a serious bicycle spring 
>>> cleaning strip down /regrease/relube/ wipe off all the winter city 
>>> scuzz 
>>> /etc.. from my bikes and its been an opportunity to try some new things 
>>> with the rosco, and I'm really liking how its turning out. Just using 
>>> what 
>>> I have around, and stealing some parts from my appaloosa.
>>>
>>> Couple of my favorite things about this build so far: Got the used 
>>> maxxis tires at the charlotte bike coop for $10 each to see how big o' 
>>> meats this frame can take. Getting a little close to those v brake 
>>> cables.. 
>>> I'll probably drop back down to 2.25s for the day to day, but these big 
>>> ones are fun. And I've had this nos xtr FD sitting in a drawer for a 
>>> couple 
>>> years because I bought it at a swap before I knew to think about the 
>>> clamp 
>>> size and its a 34.9. This bike has a 31.8 tube, and I was able to shim 
>>> the 
>>> derailer by cutting a plastic 35mm film canister. Very happy thats 
>>> working. 
>>>
>>> Hope y'all enjoy taking a gander at the bike:
>>>
>>> Build notes:
>>> 60cm Tosco's
>>> old ass oury grips
>>> avid 1.9 Speed dial levers
>>> riv silver 2 thumbies 
>>> nitto 11cm talux
>>> stock fsa headset
>>> stock kalloy seatpost
>>> imperial brooks (gooch cutout)
>>> Avid 2.0 V brakes w/koolstops 
>>> Wheelset: Cliffhangers to SON28 and a Deore
>>> 2.4 tire in the back, 2.5 in the front
>>> Sugino/white industries triple crankset (22/36/44)
>>> mismatchy monarch pedals
>>> XTR M9sumthin FD
>>> XTR Rapid Rise RD
>>> XT 11-34 cassette
>>> one of those blingy gold kmc chains
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6619.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_6622.jpg]
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking to buy: V brakes and levers

[Eric Daume]

The Yokozuna V brakes are currently 65% off at Soma, thru Sunday. I bought
a pair at the last sale, they're nice enough. Seemed similar to Shimano
Deore.

Eric

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 6:53 PM Donzaemon  wrote:

> You can purchase Yokozuna v-brakes and levers from Soma.  Wait till one of
> their killer sales and you can get a deep discount. However, Wesley's
> suggestion looks great.
>
> On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 8:35:55 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> I’m building up a vintage MTB frame. Looking for decent v brakes with
>> levers. Nothing too expensive as this is a cheap frame. Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant’s Mointain

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Mix is scary steep. Going downhill is nerve wracking, and requires frequent stops to cool off overheated brakes. –Eric NOn Apr 12, 2024, at 3:10 PM, Collin A  wrote:We talking pavement or dirt?I think pavement the steepest/longest is out in vacaville - Mix Canyon Road is about 2500 ft in 5 miles for an average of about 10%.As for dirt, they are all steep as $hit. The longest/steepest is probably somewhere out in Marin, but "Dirt Diablo" via Burma Road is pretty steep.Collin in BerkelerkelyOn Friday, April 12, 2024 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:For those of you living in the Bay Area, which is the steepest, longest climb, the one up Mt. Diablo or the one up Mt. Hamilton?On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 9:07:51 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:Another photo from the upcoming “36 Views of Mt Diablo.”  Taken this morning on my way to San Francisco for a ride around the Bay. 





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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

[Eric Marth]

I love that desert vegetation, John 

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 9:57:07 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Wowza! Beautiful tulips and very lovely Hillborne!
>
> In stark contrast to tulips in the East, here's a couple from the Sonoran 
> desert earlier in the week. While not really the feature of the photos, the 
> Atlantis is present.
> [image: IMG_2964.jpeg]
>
> [image: IMG_2966.jpeg]
>
> Cheers, John
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant’s Mointain

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It’s been a while since I’ve ridden up either, but as I recall Mt Hamilton is by far the longer climb, but Mt Diablo has steeper sections. The last bit to the top of Diablo is quite steep. –Eric NOn Apr 12, 2024, at 8:11 AM, George Schick  wrote:For those of you living in the Bay Area, which is the steepest, longest climb, the one up Mt. Diablo or the one up Mt. Hamilton?On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 9:07:51 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:Another photo from the upcoming “36 Views of Mt Diablo.”  Taken this morning on my way to San Francisco for a ride around the Bay. 





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Re: [RBW] WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[Eric Marth]

Paul — Is Greg trying to bling his Roadini? 

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 12:22:38 PM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don't have any for sale but I can confirm they are worth the $$. 
> Beautiful component with a satisfying click in index mode and if your bike 
> has a light-ish downtube you can even hear the 'ping' resonate the frame a 
> little bit. At least that's what I think I'm hearing on my waterford homer 
> I have a set on.
>
> I too wish i had the matching long cage derailleur. 
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:11:24 AM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I bought a NOS set from Alex Cycles in Japan a couple years ago. Paid 
>> $90. The set they replaced was installed in 2002 and were a bit loose. So, 
>> they last about 20-years.
>> I wish I had the matching derailleur. 
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2024, at 7:50 AM, John Dewey  wrote:
>>
>> Who among us has used Dura-Ace 9-speed dt levers long enough to ‘wear 
>> them out’? 
>>
>> And if so, how long? 
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:28 PM Ted Durant  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and 
>> elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down 
>> tube shifter bosses, and they work long fine.
>>
>>
>>>  FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp 
>>> bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you 
>>> can, and expect the price to get eye-watering. 
>>>
>>> And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW 
>>> history ... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the 
>>> opposite was true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano 
>>> bar-end pods. And thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee WI USA 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Appaloosa Double Top Tube Disc Brake

[eric swain]

And here is a full list of parts.

Frame & fork: 58cm Joe Appaloosa with double top tubes AND disc brake tabs 
added by Walt Works.
Headset: Tange Levin CDS
Stem:  Crust/Nitto, 31.8mm, 75mm, silver 
Handlebars: Tumbleweed Persuader, steel, cut to 760mm 
Grips: DMR Deathgrip
Brake levers: Shimano BL-M600
Brakes: Paul Klampers, long pull, Paul brake adapters. Avid Clean Sweep G2 
160mm Rotors
Shifters: Shimano XT SL-M750
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore RD-M591
Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore XT Triple
Cassette: Sram PG-950 9 speed, 11-34
Chain: Sram PC-951
Cranks: Shimano Deore FC-MT60, 175mm, 110/74 bcd, Shimano chain rings 
46t/30t(46 mounted in the middle position, 30 in the small ring position)
Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 68 x 118mm
Pedals: No pedals, I'm keeping the Speedplay platforms currently installed. 
Hubs: Profile Racing Elite 6 bolt disc, 32h, black, QR, HG 11 speed road 
freehub body, Shimano XT skewers. I'll also include the end caps and 
hardware to convert hubs to bolt on.
Rims: Sun Ringle Rhyno Lites, 32h, black with machined sidewalls
Spokes/nipples, DT Swiss Competition, black, DT Swiss silver brass nipples
Tires: Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 50, regular inner tubes
Seat Post: Thomson Elite, silver. I'll include the Nitto post as well.
Saddle: Brooks Cambium C17
Front rack: Nitto Mark's Rack, silver with Wald 137 Basket
Fenders: Planet Bike Cascadia 29 x 65mm, Black

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-7 eric swain wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Some of you may remember I tried selling my Appaloosa back in 2020. Well 
> at that time I decided to keep it, change a few parts, and have really 
> enjoyed it since then. Fun bike to ride, great set up for commuting, 
> running errands, dawdling around the neighborhood, and general bicycle 
> shenanigans. Fast forward to present times: my quiver has grown to a 
> ridiculous amount of bikes, my personal riding focus has shifted, I have a 
> new bike on the way, and I may be moving soon. I do not have room for every 
> bike and with a potential move I need scale back on large items, like 
> bikes. So this one is back up for sale! 
>
> I am asking $2000 as pictured(minus pedals). Including the Outershell Wald 
> 137 basket bag, Makeshifter Snackhole stem bag, Zefal frame pump, Paul Gino 
> light mount, and King cages. Bike is located in Portland OR. Test rides are 
> welcome. Boxing and shipping is no problem. Here is a link to more pics and 
> the geo.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/119mQzJCLMtSAMxge007HSiDUI9lv76W4?usp=sharing
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
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[RBW] FS: 58cm Appaloosa Double Top Tube Disc Brake

[eric swain]

Hey folks,

Some of you may remember I tried selling my Appaloosa back in 2020. Well at 
that time I decided to keep it, change a few parts, and have really enjoyed 
it since then. Fun bike to ride, great set up for commuting, running 
errands, dawdling around the neighborhood, and general bicycle shenanigans. 
Fast forward to present times: my quiver has grown to a ridiculous amount 
of bikes, my personal riding focus has shifted, I have a new bike on the 
way, and I may be moving soon. I do not have room for every bike and with a 
potential move I need scale back on large items, like bikes. So this one is 
back up for sale! 

I am asking $2000 as pictured(minus pedals). Including the Outershell Wald 
137 basket bag, Makeshifter Snackhole stem bag, Zefal frame pump, Paul Gino 
light mount, and King cages. Bike is located in Portland OR. Test rides are 
welcome. Boxing and shipping is no problem. Here is a link to more pics and 
the geo.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/119mQzJCLMtSAMxge007HSiDUI9lv76W4?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Eric

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[RBW] Re: NBD - Purple Appaloosa

[Eric Marth]

Great post and run-down, Dan! The Appaloosa is lookin' good. 

On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:29:46 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> I also love this post!
>
> I was in C Cycle, home of the Bassi and noticed the Bloomfield.  That 
> caught me eye in your write up so I thought I would mention.
>
> That purple is amazing.  Enjoy!
>
> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 12:55:20 PM UTC-4 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Great story and pics, thanks for sharing Dan. Congrats on the new bike. 
>> It's making me want to put rons bars back on the atlantis. 
>>
>> mike in austin tx
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 2:44:46 AM UTC-5 Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone, I’d like to share the story of my new purple Appaloosa. 
>>> I’ve gained a great deal of insight and enjoyment from reading this forum, 
>>> so it’s only right that I return the favour with a story of my own.
>>>
>>>
>>> From the first time I had heard that there was a company called 
>>> Rivendell, I knew that someday I’d be riding one. I’d avidly read Tolkein 
>>> in my childhood, so to hear that there were LotR themed bicycles - and that 
>>> they were so beautiful! - was just fascinating to me. The more I read about 
>>> the bikes and the philosophy, the more I was convinced. The final straw was 
>>> coming across ‘Calling In Sick Magazine’, aka the unofficial Rivendell fan 
>>> magazine. Reading the stories and looking at the photos of those people 
>>> riding on dry hills near the ocean, in terrain not to dissimilar to what I 
>>> ride here in Adelaide, Australia, gave me the impetus to make my dream a 
>>> reality.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, why did I choose an Appaloosa? To answer that, here is a little bit 
>>> about the other bikes in my stable…
>>>
>>>
>>> *Surly Straggler*
>>>
>>> This was my first ‘nice’ bike, the first bike I actually did any 
>>> research on before buying. I bought it to be my only bike and a do-it-all 
>>> bike, one that would be reliable and fun both day-to-day and on riding 
>>> anywhere and everywhere when I felt like adventure. In that, it’s met all 
>>> my expectations and then some. It’s set up with a rack and fenders as a 
>>> commuter, but over time I’ve tweaked it with wider, flared drops, fatter, 
>>> more supple rubber and lower gearing to suit my increasing desire to 
>>> explore. I’ve ridden this bike on two (metric) centuries, countless 
>>> suburban explorations, in the rain, on gravel, and on single track. It does 
>>> it all, more or less. I’ve never liked the looks of the stack of spacers I 
>>> needed to get the bars high, and the gearing is probably a bit high, though 
>>> that has made me stronger. Descending on the dirt, even with the flared 
>>> drops, is a whole-body workout. Side note - I actually wanted a Cross 
>>> Check, but they weren’t available to order in Australia when I bought this 
>>> bike.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0580.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Bassi Bloomfield*
>>>
>>> It took a while to allow myself the thought that it was ok to have more 
>>> than one bike. I’d been browsing Blue Lug and watching Terry Barentsen 
>>> during the pandemic and fell in love with the idea of 650b, fat tyres, 
>>> upright bars and front baskets. The day after I’d decided that I could get 
>>> myself another bike, my local bike shop listed a whole bunch of Bassi 
>>> frames for sale. The clearance for wide 650b tyres and the flower head tube 
>>> graphic sold me instantly!
>>>
>>> This bike has been a revelation for me. There’s something about it - the 
>>> wide bars, the light frame, having no gears - that just clicks with me. 
>>> It’s like the bike is hard-wired into my brain. And the basket! It’s so 
>>> practical. More than that, though, this bike looks great. It’s a bike that 
>>> non-bike people complement me on. And it sold me on how good it feels to 
>>> ride upright.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8340.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Why Appaloosa?*
>>>
>>> Which brings me to the Appaloosa. In the last two years I’d begun to the 
>>> explore the range of hills that flank Kaurna country / the Adelaide plains. 
>>> I like riding from my door, winding through the suburbs to a trail head, 
>>> then climbing and exploring the trails, going a little further each time. I 
>>> wanted a bike that would be fun to ride on the road but more comfortable 
>>> and capable off it than my other bikes. In short, I wanted a touring bike, 
>>> and the Appaloosa seemed like it. I liked that the 2.2” tyres looked like a 
>>> balance of speed and comfort, and the long chainstays promised to smooth 
>>> out bumps and make hair-raising off-road descents more palatable. Spoiler 
>>> alert: both of these things were true!
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ll spare you the story of sourcing the frame. I’ll only say that I 
>>> initially hesitated on the purple colour, which in hindsight was absolutely 
>>> ridiculous. Purple is my favourite colour and THIS purple is amazing. It’s 
>>> perfect.
>>>
>>>
>>> *First Impressions*
>>>
>>> I picked up the Appaloosa on Thursday after my bike shop kindly 

Re: [RBW] how wide of wheels and tires will a specialized seqoia handle

[Eric Daume]

I have an ‘82 as well and it has good clearance, depending on the brakes
used. My current Superbe Pros have lots of room, while the previous Tektros
were tighter. The previous owner said he could fit 35mm actual tires, and
that looks possible (at least with the Suntour brakes)

Eric

On Wednesday, April 3, 2024, JohnS  wrote:

> Hello Bo,
>
> I have an '82 Sequoia that I have RH 700 x 32 Stampede Pass tires mounted
> on Velocity Quill rims. Comfortable amount of clearance without fenders. I
> have not tired them with fenders since this is my naked road bike (no
> fenders nor racks). My Crust LB-canti is my fully dressed bike. I'm very
> happy with my Sequoia, nice neutral handling, smooth ride and descends
> well. FWIW, I've heard people on the 650B list like to convert the Sequoia
> to 650b, so 38 or even a 42 may fit.
>
> Good luck,
> JohnS
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:09:27 PM UTC-4 boru...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> there is a steel sequoia I am looking at remotely.
>> the tires on it say 23mm and look narrow as knife blades
>> there doesn't seem to be a lot of room beyond that
>> for wider wheels and tires.
>>
>> I bet there are 20 people on the list with experience
>> with this situation
>>
>> is the sequoia a good solution for someone hoping for
>> 32s or at least 28s?
>>
>> fenders would be too much to hope for?
>>
>> thanks for the expertise
>>
>> Bo
>> Bellingham
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Re: [RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do They Solve?

[Eric Daume]

If you want Riv's explanation, it's here:

https://www.rivbike.com/pages/why-the-long-stays-chainstay-length

Eric

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 8:02 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Bill
>
>
>
> I would say “solve some objective problem not addressed by all other
> bikes *or be an improvement* by all other bikes”  regardless of the
> logical/philosophical issue of Rivendells existing or nor.
>
>
>
> Also, I think most of us would agree “all other bikes” would the bikes you
> see in Trek store, a Fuji store, a Specialized store, a Crust website, a
> Walmart sporting goods section, etc.  I am not thinking about designs which
> may exist in the world where bikes are used in lieu of motorized vehicles
> and not just as a recreational diversion.
>
>
>
> John Hawrylak
>
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *William Lindsay
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2024 6:57 PM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do
> They Solve?
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> OK so you are saying that every bike on earth that is currently available
> are all in one group and Rivendells are not in that group.  In order  to be
> allowed to exist a Rivendell must either conform with the first group’s
> designs or solve some objective problem not addressed by all other bikes.
> Is that it?
>
>
>
> BL in EC
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 3:43 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Good challenge, what I was thinking is what problem with bikes is the long
> C/S solving?  I thought it was a straight forward question.
>
>
>
> I suggest *eliminate* “in bike design” and problems or current
> deficiencies refer to the current bikes available.Another way of saying
> it is what “improvements” in bicycles result from the Long C/S.
>
>
>
> So far the responses indicate Long C/S improve
>
> Overall handling, seems to apply to all surfaces.
>
> Comfort, especially from bumps in the surface.
>
> Climbing and Descending single track type trails (like the ones in the RBW
> pictures on Mt Diablo).  The climbing improvement appears to due to
> improved weight distribution vs improved bio-mechanical items.
>
>
>
> John Hawrylak
>
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill Lindsay
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2024 5:19 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do They
> Solve?
>
>
>
> The OP asked: "*What problem or current deficiency in bike design is
> Grant solving by using long chain stays"*
>
>
>
> What exactly is this entity you call "bike design"?  If you can define
> that, perhaps I can respond to your question (emphatically stated with FOUR
> question marks)
>
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
>
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 10:50:18 AM UTC-7 John Hawrylak, Woodstown
> NJ wrote:
>
> Enjoyed reading the thread "Anyone else not a fan of long chainstays?",
> especially Bill L's explanation of the RBW bike design philosophy.   Seems
> the prevailing thought is long stays are better for
>
> upright riding
>
> single track type trails (vs a Rails to Trails type trail)
>
>
>
> I'll just note 2 'facts'
>
> 1  The vast majority of RBW models (except the Roadeo type frame) use
> slack STA and HTA which may contribute to the ride effect when coupled with
> long stays.
>
> 2.  In the beginning RBW addressed getting the bars higher and adopting a
> non-racer riding style (back at 45° with hands on hoods), which IMHO were
> solutions to actual problems.
>
>
>
> *So What problem or current deficiency in bike design is Grant solving by
> using long chain stays*
>
> Just to bring bikes to market that no one else is building??
>
> Or do they solve a real problem???
>
>
>
> John Hawrylak
>
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
>
> FWIW 2 of 3 of my frames have 44 to 45cm chain stays, and 1 has a 43cm
> chain stay.It's hard to notice a ride difference.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

[Eric Daume]

Well, now I'm more curious and might have a reason to go visit my giant
local Trek store!

Eric

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 9:59 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Eric D asked what model Treks.  Good question, as I just walked in on the
> sout side of the store and exited on the north side.
>
> Well, went back to the LBS today after dental appointment. I was looking
> for 1) a chain checker tool, and 2) Purple Loctite #222. Fizzled out on
> both.  The long wheelbase Treks are the FX 1, FX 2 and FX 3. Sports are a
> bit shorter. Nothing like what Kim Hetzel shows in the Clem photo.  The web
> photos appear to show a bike with a shorter wheelbase, shorter chainstays
> than what I observed, in person, at the LBS.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 11:10:20 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Joel,
>> I am grateful to hear that you have arrived at the much desired height
>> with your handlebar stem.
>>
>> Comfort in the cockpit is everything.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 11:02 AM J S  wrote:
>>
>>> Kim, I have the height  I need while it is maxed out it is just what I
>>> need.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 1:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Joel,
>>>>
>>>> It is quite comforting to hear that I am not alone in not wanting to
>>>> have a threadless stem on my bicycle, my Clem. I only have one bicycle that
>>>> I ride. The other is a retired road bike that I would like to sell to a
>>>> good home.
>>>>
>>>> Would the Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stem help you get the height you want
>>>> on your favorite bike ?
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2024, 5:51 AM J S  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kim, I agree, I have never wanted a threadless stem, probably for the
>>>>> same reasons as you. In my mind a threadless stem will not give me the
>>>>> height I desire, maybe I am wrong but I have my bikes and will not be
>>>>> adding any more.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 8:51 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Joel,
>>>>>> You are more than welcome.
>>>>>> I was very fortunate to find this very quill stem. I could not bring
>>>>>> myself to go threadless, after over 40 years going used to quill stems. I
>>>>>> am very slow to change, by the way. I am very happy with the The Nitto
>>>>>> Technomic NTC-280 stem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 4:27:13 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Kim. I have only used Technomic stems because they were the
>>>>>> longest available when I started with Riv in ‘97 or so. I think on my 
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> road I used the shorter Technomic deluxe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 7:23 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Joel,
>>>>>> The  Nitto Technomic NTC-280 stemis very much different than that of
>>>>>> the Nitto Technomic Tallux in that the NTC-280 stem's quill is a length 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 11.02 inches, while the Tallux stem's quill length is shorter, 10.3 
>>>>>> inches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is where I bought mine:
>>>>>> https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-technomic-ntc-280-stem-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 5:50:11 AM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim, is this  NITTO Technomic NTC-280 Stem the same as the
>>>>>> Technomic? I never heard the NTC-280 part before. The Technomic is the 
>>>>>> old
>>>>>> high stem I think Riv now calls the Tallux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:52 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @John,
>>>>>> From you have spoken about more weight distribution further back on
>>>>>> the rear wheel and the handlebars closer to the rider for a comfortable
>>>>>> upr

[RBW] WTB: Soma Supple Vitesse

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Apparently, Soma has discontinued their Supple Vitesse tires. So … anybody have 
some 700x28 size that you can part with? Lightly used is OK (or new).

Reply to me off-list: campyonly...@me.com <mailto:campyonly...@me.com>

Thanks!

--Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Eric Marth]

That Reston Homer is nicely appointed and a good deal for someone right for 
a 47cm!

On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Your patience continues to earn you money.  Now the price is down to 
> $6000.  Wait until September and you'll get paid to take it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I love a bargain 
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 7:40:48 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> It's on special offer now to those of us who are watching it.  Now 
>>> avaiable for the low low price of $6250.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 9:59:37 AM UTC-7 LBleriot wrote:
>>>
 Yikes!  I would love to add a Heron Touring to go with my Road, but 
 this Ebay listing is kind of a silly way to solicit real offers.

 On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 12:26:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Obviously the Chris King Headset Composite Index has gone through the 
> roof.
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:
>
>> wow
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:33:10 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> $7000  In a word, HA!  At least they are taking offers...  
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 12:28:26 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Heron Touring 
 55cm
 $7000
 Walled Lake, Michigan
 Rare rare rare parts like Titanium Chris King headset, Nitto racks, 
 and full Campagnolo...

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/176156925449?itmmeta=01HRQFP37XW2ZW9W57MX91XV8H=item2903c55e09:g:1-QAAOSwlT9le1Vr=enc%3AAQAI4A7jbJYmJLb0qhGidg8sdvoie5vcUpIvYrS%2BSMvrLJLvPiSDvKpjMsaHlJTCd1soc%2BS7lyI3DhBCJIMPjYbsw%2Bz2jx3FF1A8HaYOsrSGCGDojnJMNqrJC9m0GJvRkaVV7ejS4wIjNmkGPkl5PLpOEQlbXY8ub8%2FhPJelndP333HN%2B5YXfIBsGZBcK%2BedK1MLmQWY7kHqX4c4AzxDVzG%2B1rJVrllsTotNUBw2pKEhm%2BQDzzEV4sTfCquOQ0jScQhSElZQaXk3KjAGccNhRMGhT54kCgPjyFiebEPpJtvqbTfN%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4C02O_FYw

 On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Roadini
> 57cm
> 2000
> Emeryville, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-leo-roadini/7720529232.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[Eric Marth]

Just wanted to stop by and say thanks to JJ for the general rapid rise 
write-up. I've already tested and made up my mind for myself but I think 
his post from Mar 20, 2024, 1:14:26 PM really does a nice job of breaking 
things down related to how these mechs work, how they might work for you, 
as well as some of the reasons we see such big differences in costs on the 
used market.

JJ knows! He's certainly owned and sold more RR derailers than any other 
forum member (that I'm aware of). 

On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks all for your clarifications! Agree with the comments regarding the 
> reliability of shimano components - I've usually had little reason to move 
> on from my Altus/Acera RD except durability of the pulleys on the Acera 
> perhaps. Shifted very well every time.
>
> I have received a nice RD from a rbw member - thank you :)
> chintan
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 23:04, Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> My only rapid rise - a beautiful Nexave courtesy of JJ - has made me a 
>> big fan. In particular, I am quite happy with my non rapid rise Deore unit 
>> on my Clem which gets lots of flatlander miles. But my Gus gets the 
>> singletrack hills. This is where the Nexave has one huge benefit. It takes 
>> zero effort to shift to an easier gear when I need it most. 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2024, at 1:14 PM, J J  wrote:
>>
>> I'm 100 percent with Jock on this issue. It's hard to take the Disraeli 
>> Gears comments about the XT RD-M760 seriously, dripping as they are with 
>> dismissiveness. We've had long threads on this forum about low normal 
>> derailleurs before, and I still find the myths that circulate about Rapid 
>> Rise perplexing. For example, the myths that Rapid Rise performs "worse" 
>> than high normal, or it's harder to set up or index, or that (per the 
>> Disraeli Gears comments) it's somehow more prone to rust than other 
>> derailleurs in the same general series, like the XT M750,  built with the 
>> same material.
>>
>> The reason I favor RR comes down to a shifting logic that works better 
>> for my brain and motor coordination than high normal. I shift in friction 
>> mode on all my bikes, which all have low normal rear ders. I like that I 
>> can move both levers in the same direction to get to higher/harder or 
>> lower/easier gears instead of moving oppositely. That's about it. I do 
>> think there are a few other benefits of RR: if my shift cable broke, the RR 
>> spring will push the derailleur to the easiest gear instead of the hardest, 
>> thus avoiding a potential high-gear slog home. But how often do cables 
>> break? RR also seems to shift more easily to lower/easier gears under load. 
>> But maybe this is a misattribution. Maybe I've simply gotten better about 
>> timing my shifts and floating the pedals. 
>>
>> It does not mean that I have *trouble* with high normal shifting! To the 
>> contrary, high normal is just fine. Low normal is just a preference. What 
>> works great for Rapid Rise adherents won't necessarily work great for 
>> anyone else. Once you try RR, the possible outcomes will be that you like 
>> it, you hate it, or that you're more or less neutral about it. (You will 
>> also realize that one way or another, it is not earth shattering or life 
>> changing, nor will it make you a more skilled and faster rider). 
>>
>> Any shifts I have missed or bungled are totally attributable to user 
>> error, to my timing or judgement, and not anything inherent to a high 
>> normal vs. low normal modality.
>>
>> Finally, all Rapid Rise rear ders I have tried, from the humble end to 
>> the fancy XTRs, work beautifully. The differences between them are 
>> refinement level, materials, weight, looks, aesthetics, and so on, just 
>> like every other Shimano product categories that are stratified by price 
>> point.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 10:38:41 PM UTC-4 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> @ http://disraeligears.co.uk/…well I suppose if you pedal around in a 
>>> saltwater bath, like some of those unfortunate souls…that might happen. 
>>>
>>> For those us who ride under sunny skies now and again—and take care of 
>>> stuff properly—I can tell you that after years and years of working those 
>>> mechs, never a mixed-up shift that wasn’t my doing and not even a 
>>> microscopic spot of corrosion to be found anywhere. 
>>>
>>> Total hooey I say. And I’ve got the goods to prove it 浪
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:15 PM Chintan Jadwani  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Another question - from a couple of reviews here people seem 
 indifference of the performance between low vs high normal. But online 
 elsewhwre, there seems to be strong dislike for low normal - why is that? 

 For example - disraeligears.co.uk writes for the xt m760

 "The Shimano Deore XT (M760) is my absolutely least favourite Deore XT 
 variant. It has cheap (rust prone) detailing, unnecessary 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[Eric Marth]

Just wanted to pop in and say that if you're an eBay whiz and patient you 
can find rapid risers for not too much money. I've found two of the very 
nice Nexave T400s, both new, never used, for less than $30 each. There was 
a seller on eBay sometime in 2023 who listed a bunch of the T400s and 
another model of the Nexave for $25-$30 each, they were all new-old-stock. 

That said the XTR stuff always seems to run on the expensive side, rapid 
rise or otherwise. The LX and XT rapid risers are out there and a little 
cheaper. Another tip: if you can learn to visually ID a low-normal cage 
sometimes you can find derailers that are not listed as rapid rise by the 
seller and snag them for not as much money. 

Definitely agree with Johnny and Bill that Riv riders and readers and board 
members *and* Rivendell employees have been driving demand and therefore 
price. If Rivendell releases their own version and it lands in the $200 
range I don't see that cooling the secondary market. 
On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 10:15:13 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another question - from a couple of reviews here people seem indifference 
> of the performance between low vs high normal. But online elsewhwre, there 
> seems to be strong dislike for low normal - why is that? 
>
> For example - disraeligears.co.uk writes for the xt m760
>
> "The Shimano Deore XT (M760) is my absolutely least favourite Deore XT 
> variant. It has cheap (rust prone) detailing, unnecessary styling and, 
> worst of all, it’s low normal. not your obvious choice for slogging your 
> way through the mud and grime of a British winter. Bring back stainless 
> steel small parts, polished finishes and top normal operating logic."
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar, 2024, 5:07 am John Dewey,  wrote:
>
>> And the Rivendell ‘fan base’ is a subset of another and another so as to 
>> be mostly inconsequential. We do count, however and a few brave souls do 
>> sort-of OK serving us. 
>>
>> Nevertheless, most of us (even here in RBW’s backyard) seldom cross paths 
>> with cyclists with whom we have anything in common other than two wheels. 
>> We’re already a bit abnormal and ‘low-normal’ makes us even more so. 
>>
>> Jock (and his fleet of abnormal low-normals)
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 9:41 AM Johnny Alien  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have to think that most of the market for these is from the Rivendell 
>>> fan base. I don't hear any other bike group talking about them at all. 
>>> Because of that I kind of think IF Riv ends up bringing their new one to 
>>> market the used scene will come WAY down. Just a theory. I really hope that 
>>> I can test the theory (because they successfully release it)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you all for the replies :) Now that I know of the RR, every time 
 I am on an uphill and I have to push the gear to climb higher on the 
 cassette I feel some justification for having a "low-normal" derailleur. 

 Thanks also for clarifying that any of these will work well.

 The RR will also hypothetically make life a little easier in 
 introducing a friend to front and rear shifting- why does the same action 
 push the bike to a higher gear in the front and lower gear in the rear (I 
 forget too..)

 On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 20:58, Miles Payton  wrote:

> I got a used XTR M951 long cage derailleur for a song on ebay a few 
> months ago. Maybe there's not much demand? The seller gave me a half off 
> offer so I couldn't refuse. Anyway it works great and it appears they're 
> usually $50-80 depending on the condition. Not bad for what was once a 
> top-of-the-line derailleur. I'd just avoid the NOS stuff because that's 
> where you start spending $200 or more. 
> I've been plenty happy with mine. It's paired to Gevenalle 10 speed 
> shifters on my Atlantis. I can't speak to replacement parts but it 
> wouldn't 
> be expensive to replace, and my old M900 hasn't needed more than a 
> rebuild 
> in 20 years. They're pretty well-made.
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 12:01:39 PM UTC-5 chintan jadwani wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 
>> ideally.
>>
>> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs 
>> that one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were 
>> there 
>> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
>> replacements are available?
>>
>> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 
>> around that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the 
>> prices rise very quickly! 
>>
>> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
>> Chintan
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Spring Cleaning - Nitto, Crust, Tektro, Etc.

[Eric M Cardella]

Thanks JC. Look forward to hearing about the Fleecer Ridge info. Zip code again is 97330.EricOn Mar 19, 2024, at 1:08 PM, J C  wrote:UPDATING THE LIST WITH WHATS BEEN CLAIMED See Highlighted Below** I should have shipping details available tonight for those who I have spoken with, apologies for the delay **Thanks!JCNew or Like New StuffNitto Noodle 52cm: $100Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop: $75Nitto Wavie 660: $100Crust Ron's Bar: $100Salsa Cowchipper: $50Tektro CR720: $50Tektro 559 (nutted version): $40Dia Compe Long Reach (nutted): $40Avid BB7 MTN: $50Crust Hand Sanitizer Levers: $30Brooks C17 Cambium: $80Shimano Claris FD: $25Used StuffSoma Cazaderos 700x50: $50/pairRene Herse Fleecer Ridge 700x55: $60/New, $40/3 months useSuntour Levers: $20On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 12:21:34 PM UTC-7 J Imler wrote:PM sent on Dia Compe Long Reach.On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 4:51:46 PM UTC-7 J C wrote:Greetings all,In making room for a new Roadeo, i've been doing some spring cleaning and decided it was time to get rid of some things i've had for way too long.Most items are new or like new condition. Prices do not include shipping, feel free to make reasonable offers.Photos here:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t_CxLajkB-9nPWjkQ5EDMNxfJijb-PES?usp=sharingNew or Like New StuffNitto Noodle 52cm: $100Nitto RM-013 Dirt Drop: $75Nitto Wavie 660: $100Crust Ron's Bar: $100Salsa Cowchipper: $50Tektro CR720: $50Tektro 559 (nutted version): $40Dia Compe Long Reach (nutted): $40Avid BB7 MTN: $50Crust Hand Sanitizer Levers: $30Brooks C17 Cambium: $80Shimano Claris FD: $25Used StuffSoma Cazaderos 700x50: $50/pairRene Herse Fleecer Ridge 700x55: $60/New, $40/3 months useSuntour Levers: $20Thanks,JC in Southern California



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Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Eric Marth]

Oh and Bill too! Bill, I saw you heading to the expo on Sunday morning 
while I was having a coffee at Habitat, didn't want to shout at you though. 
Nice Atlantis!

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:05 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> I had a nice visit at PBE. It was great to meet Pam, Leah, Roberta and Tim 
> from here on the board! 
>
> Thanks to Tim for the Saturday night convoy to Keystone, riding bikes in 
> the woods with a train of dynamos is really something. 
>
> Here's one with the fellas from Riv and Paul R. 
>
> [image: 240313 PBE 06.jpg]
>
> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:44:15 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> How about an informal meet at the Riv booth right after the show opens?  
>>
>> I'll be sporting a black Green Guru backpack (made with inner tubes) with 
>> a Riv triangle.  I have white hair.
>>
>> I hope to see old friends and meet new ones!
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:11:09 PM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There’s more where that came from, I can send them more easily via text. 
>>> This is more or less its current configuration[image: IMG_0031]
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Bryce Lackey  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> <00m0m_3DD3lNnQboh_1320MM_600x450.jpg>
>>> XL Rivendell Sam Hillborne Frameset W Extras - bicycles - by owner - 
>>> bike sale - craigslist 
>>> <https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/philadelphia-xl-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7723301405.html>
>>> philadelphia.craigslist.org 
>>> <https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/philadelphia-xl-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7723301405.html>
>>>
>>> <https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/philadelphia-xl-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7723301405.html>
>>>
>>> Here’s the ad. A couple pictures demonstrating the frame condition and 
>>> one of it all built up. 
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2024, at 12:18 PM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know a guy who would love that . . . not me.  Do you have pics or a 
>>> link to the CL ad?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:30:46 AM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam 
>>>> listed as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you 
>>>> want to make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a 
>>>> complete build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as 
>>>> the 
>>>> Keystone afterparty. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it out 
>>>>> to the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My 
>>>>> three-year-old has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross 
>>>>> Check over the Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on 
>>>>> two 
>>>>> wheels. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but 
>>>>>> will be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If 
>>>>>> anyone needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>>>>>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roberta
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Hobson-Zingo tools tried and liked?

[Eric Daume]

I bought the MP pump. I like it, but it’s not a clear winner:

+ great for quickly filling up high volume/ low pressure tires
- difficult to get above 45 psi or so
- the base is too small and makes it feel unstable.

Because of the high pressure limitations, I ended up keeping my old floor
pump around as well.

Eric
Who also has two work stands…

On Friday, March 15, 2024, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Most people consider the Mike Plumpatire floor pump to be a part of the
> Hobson Zingo program.  If you require explicit HZ branding on each item,
> the MP pump doesn't qualify.
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/mike-plumpatire-floor-pump
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 7:46:17 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I dont see a HZ floor pump on the website though...
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Mar, 2024, 11:10 am Adam Moss,  wrote:
>>
>>> Their floor pump is awesome!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 9:12:56 PM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking for recommendations for any HZ tools that you have tried and
>>>> would recommend...
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> peter
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Give this guy a Like and a Subscribe

[Eric Marth]

QUALITY content! 

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:58:51 AM UTC-4 tio ryan wrote:

> Glad to see he's making longer content for YouTube, as I've also been 
> following him on IG for little while now and have been enjoying his bike 
> videos. 
>
> He's got a couple very sweet Rivs and a gift for filming and editing 
> bicycle content. 
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 8:03:49 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> I've been following him on Instagram. He's got a nice collection of Riv's 
>> and is constantly posting riding videos. No bike no likes right? I 
>> subscribed to the YouTube channel. 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 8:39:37 PM UTC-4 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing -- nice understated video that really is worth 
>>> watching -- makes me want to go cycle in Korea!  
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, Il 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:16:40 PM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
 Nice video of his adventures aboard a Clem in Korea. 

 https://youtu.be/IFoDkOQjk08?si=tOa6oP0IbiZmwNRQ

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho... stem question

[Eric Marth]

Someone better buy that Ritchey Force it's the perfect size and spiritual 
aesthetic for the Orthos. 

On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-4 Jordan Rosenblum wrote:

> Not unlike other folks, I found the width of the Ortho's demanded a longer 
> stem than I use with Bosco and Tosco bars. Another option that I think sits 
> somewhere between a face-plater and other single bolt stems are the Ritchey 
> Force made by Nitto stems of the 90's, which you can occasionally find in 
> even longer lengths. They are steel with a single bolt—and very pretty. The 
> downside is that they don't have a ton of rise. As the poster above 
> mentions, I have successfully used a Ritchey 25.4 clamp diameter stem with 
> the 26.0 Ortho's, which were very secure—though I don't presume any 
> knowledge of whether this is long-term safe. 
>
> I saw this post just as I was prepping a for-sale post of similar stems on 
> another forum. If Chris or other folks are interested, the following are up 
> for grabs, I am going to create a new post so that I don't derail the 
> thread. These include a 120mm 25.4 faceplate stem, Ritchey 25.4 stems in 
> 150 and 170mm(),  and a Ritchey 135mm, 26.0 (might be what you're 
> looking for). Regardless, if you don't need a long steering column, I 
> highly recommend the Ritchey Force stems if you can scrounge up the size 
> that would work for you.
>
> Jordan in Portland, Oregon
>
> [image: IMG_6005.jpg]
> [image: IMG_6011.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:39:02 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> For what it is worth Ron used 25.4 clamp size stems and claims & claims 
>> they work great. Got to spread that clamp I guess.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2024, at 12:09 PM, El Sapo  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Wish I would have understood the issues with the 26 mm handlebar clamp 
>> prior to purchasing the Ortho Bar. No megusta.The pics posted by iamKeith 
>> don’t show that his hair, beard, and hip vibe are much greater riding the 
>> bike with ortho bars.
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 7:50:27 AM UTC-7 Chris K wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you all for the pics and advice! Very helpful.
>>>
>>> I'm putting these bars on a 1985 Trek 870. As Riv says on their 
>>> cardboard geo charts "don't obsess", but geometrically this old frame is 
>>> not terribly far off some Riv models, setting aside, of course, bb drop and 
>>> stack (1985 Trek 870: 21.8" frame, 71º hta, 71.5º sta, 58.0 tt, 48.5 cs, 
>>> 5.0 drop, 52.7 stack, 40.6 reach).
>>>
>>> My current set-up is Choco bars and an 8cm Dirt Drop. The height feels 
>>> fine, just slightly above saddle height, and the reach isn't bad either but 
>>> could be ~1" longer. I'm fairly upright but can lean in and grip forward as 
>>> needed. I just like the idea of more width and more flare.
>>>
>>> Are these details helpful? I'm maybe leaning toward the 135mm Faceplater 
>>> based on your replies, but that does seem long!
>>> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-6 Dan wrote:
>>>
 [image: IMG_9267.jpeg]I’ve got these bars lined up for my Appaloosa 
 build. 
 My local bike shop had a NOS Velo Orange Grand Cru stem in 120mm that 
 looks pretty perfect. It’s 26.0, and having no rise should be slightly 
 longer in reality than its length number suggests. I’m hoping that the 
 wider clamp section will help it to grip the bars well too, despite the 
 single bolt. 


 On Monday 11 March 2024 at 03:33:24 UTC+10:30 Chris K wrote:

> Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem 
> advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame 
> factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are 
> generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:
>
> - Faceplater 110mm
> - Faceplater 135mm
> - Tallux 12cm
>
> Will the 110 Faceplater be too short?
>
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[RBW] Re: Video: Repairing Pam Murray's Silver shifters

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for checking out the project and for the kind feedback. 

Leah, let me know if you ever need a hand with something that can easily be 
mailed out to me in Virginia :0)  I should be around mid-day on Saturday 
for PBE

On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 2:40:20 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> You are so good to your RivSisters, Eric. Thank you for fixing those 
> shifters for our Pam and for making a documentary so others can repair 
> theirs, too. You may have just outed yourself to some of us 
> less-than-mechanical types. If you start receiving packages of broken stuff 
> in the mail, well, you’ll know how that happened. 
>
> I hope I get to meet you next weekend!
> Leah 
>
> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 2:04:15 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you Eric for sharing! All good advice. Nothing worse than a small 
>> part falling on the shop floor and spending untold time groping around 
>> looking for it.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> PS - Which bike are you bringing to the Expo?
>>
>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 11:43:53 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I'm beyond amazed how great this group is to come together to fix my 
>>> broken shifters.  Thank you to Eric for taking them apart and to Mike 
>>> Godwin for the guts.  I love to repair things and get full utility out of 
>>> all components.  What a great video.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 8, 2024 at 9:35:26 PM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lovely video, Eric. Your shop gives me those Van Neistat vibes. Thanks 
>>>> for documenting this and sharing your process. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 4:48:05 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone — Last fall Pam Murray sent me some Silver shifter levers 
>>>>> that were in need of repair. They came off her high-mileage Betty Foy 
>>>>> after 
>>>>> the springs wore out. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Mike Godwin for sending me a broken pair of the old Suntour 
>>>>> Sprint levers, they provided the parts I needed to get Pam's shifters 
>>>>> back 
>>>>> up and running. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I made a video about the process, it's up here: 
>>>>> https://youtu.be/0g67pjAPYZk
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this is helpful to anyone looking to get their worn out or 
>>>>> broken Silver v1 or v2 shifters back into shape.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers! 
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Ron's Ortho... stem question

[Eric Marth]

What Brian said plus my choice would be the 12cm Tallux or the 13.5cm 
face-plater assuming you're on a Riv 54cm or larger. 

I have a 12cm Tallux on my Appaloosa with Ortho bars. It's been pretty 
good, no complaints, but those bars are massive and I wouldn't mind having 
them a little further away. But not enough to do a stem swap! 

On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 1:13:19 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Without having the most important factors (frame, size, and what you’re 
> currently running), I’d say going with a faceplater type stem would be a 
> good idea because these are very wide bars, and it’s good to have a stem 
> that will clamp down on them more securely than a single bolt quill stem.
>
> I currently have Ortho bars on my 54cm Gus, and I’m using a 110mm Nitto 
> threadless stem with 4 bolts on the faceplate.
>
> -Brian
> Lexington KY 
>
> On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:03 PM, Chris K  wrote:
>
> Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem advice 
> from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame factors 
> that play into something like this, but curious what people are generally 
> going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:
>
>
> - Faceplater 110mm
> - Faceplater 135mm
> - Tallux 12cm
>
> Will the 110 Faceplater be too short?
>
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[RBW] Re: Grant’s Mountain

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Meant to say “Great” day!

–Eric N


> On Mar 8, 2024, at 1:12 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> Grassy day today to be up on Grant’s Mountain(aka Mt Diablo). Unlimited 
> visibility in all directions.
> 
> 
> –Eric N
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[RBW] Re: Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

[Eric Doelling]

Hi All - just my two cents:  I have two Quickbeams and use both often - one 
in Oakland and one on the central coast.  I am running Sugino 40/32 with a 
white industries 17 in Oakland and 40/32 with a white industries 16 on the 
coast.  The Oakland set-up is nice and allows me to have a ball.  I am able 
to ride up to skyline via the steeper routes with the 32 and still have 
enough gear with the 40 to enjoy the flats.  The 16 rear also allows 
climbing and provides a little more umph.  As I am aging this is getting 
more challenging. Depending on terrain I would go with the 17 in the rear 
unless your a very good climber and pretty fit.  Larger than a 17 and I 
dont think the flats would be as much fun.  

On another QB subject, what is it that makes these bikes so enjoyable and 
all out fun.  The folks at Riv echoed this - how much people love their 
QB's.  It is much more than the "singlespeed" mindset.  There is something 
about the dynamic of these bikes. The QB is so stable and at the same time 
responsive and comfortable.  I run mine with a flat bar 
https://www.jitensha.com/eng/flatbar05.html and Paul brakes.   I believe 
this handlebar makes a tremendous difference.  Since all my geared bikes 
have drop bars I couldn't imagine using a drop bar on this set-up. 

I bought these when Riv spoke alot about fit and maxing out standover 
towards your pubic bone.  I haven't kept up with it but have tried the 
newer bikes and was not able to find the same fit or a fit I loved.  I 
think there is more spacing between sizes now.

Eric



On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 10:51:16 AM UTC-8 David wrote:

> Thank you, Bill. This is really helpful.
>
> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> All that stuff is pretty darn common.  One place to go is eBay.  
>>
>> cranks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386838756264
>> 40 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255458588990
>> 32 ring: https://www.ebay.com/itm/196275801449
>>
>> People find practically free bike parts at "the bike co-op", or "the 
>> local bike kitchen".  That takes effort but you can save a lot.  People 
>> post "want to buy" posts on this group, and often somebody has what you 
>> seek in their parts bin.  There's a hundred ways to pull a build together.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2024 at 6:20:23 AM UTC-8 David wrote:
>>
>>> This is all really great input. The trouble I'm having is finding a 
>>> configuration out there (new or otherwise) that comes close to the  Sugino 
>>> 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. Where would you go 
>>> to gather these parts?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:07:14 PM UTC-8 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an orange Quickbeam, which I bought new, with the original 
>>>> Sugino 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. I 
>>>> immediately removed the provided 18t freewheel and put on a White 17/19t 
>>>> Dos Eno. I also put a 22 on the flop side of the flip/flop hub that Riv 
>>>> included with the bike.
>>>>
>>>> With the long dropout, I can use 40/17 (99%+ of my riding), 40/19, 
>>>> 32/19 or 32/22. I like to say I have the world’s least convenient 4 speed. 
>>>> I haven’t “shifted” the bike about 5 years or more, but in the first 8 
>>>> years that I owned it, I would take it for long recreational rides and 
>>>> need 
>>>> to downshift for some hills. For the locals: I even rode it up Old La 
>>>> Honda 
>>>> years ago, I think in the 32/19, maybe the 32/22. Age and 2 bouts with 
>>>> cancer have made a single speed bike only suitable for commuting for me 
>>>> now, but it’s great for that.
>>>>
>>>> I’d definitely recommend 2 chainrings at about 8t difference if you 
>>>> want some versatility. I have the pop off SKS fender stay things, and pack 
>>>> an old gardening glove in my saddle bag so I can change the gearing 
>>>> without 
>>>> getting too messy.
>>>>
>>>> Drew
>>>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-8 David wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What are your drivetrain specs? Cranks, chainrings, etc.  Simpleones, 
>>>>> too, if that's what you're riding. It appears Riv doesn't offer the 
>>>>> classic 
>>>>> single speed crankset anymore.
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Building a Quickbeam and wondering...

[Eric Daume]

You can buy a guard, but they are also easy to make: get a used/worn/cheap
ring that maybe 4 teeth larger than your biggest ring, and grind, snap, or
saw the teeth off, then file smooth.

Eric

On Thursday, March 7, 2024, David  wrote:

> This is all really great input. The trouble I'm having is finding a
> configuration out there (new or otherwise) that comes close to the  Sugino
> 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. Where would you go
> to gather these parts?
>
> On Wednesday, March 6, 2024 at 12:07:14 PM UTC-8 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> I have an orange Quickbeam, which I bought new, with the original Sugino
>> 74/110 triple with the original 32/40/guard chainrings. I immediately
>> removed the provided 18t freewheel and put on a White 17/19t Dos Eno. I
>> also put a 22 on the flop side of the flip/flop hub that Riv included with
>> the bike.
>>
>> With the long dropout, I can use 40/17 (99%+ of my riding), 40/19, 32/19
>> or 32/22. I like to say I have the world’s least convenient 4 speed. I
>> haven’t “shifted” the bike about 5 years or more, but in the first 8 years
>> that I owned it, I would take it for long recreational rides and need to
>> downshift for some hills. For the locals: I even rode it up Old La Honda
>> years ago, I think in the 32/19, maybe the 32/22. Age and 2 bouts with
>> cancer have made a single speed bike only suitable for commuting for me
>> now, but it’s great for that.
>>
>> I’d definitely recommend 2 chainrings at about 8t difference if you want
>> some versatility. I have the pop off SKS fender stay things, and pack an
>> old gardening glove in my saddle bag so I can change the gearing without
>> getting too messy.
>>
>> Drew
>> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-8 David wrote:
>>
>>> What are your drivetrain specs? Cranks, chainrings, etc.  Simpleones,
>>> too, if that's what you're riding. It appears Riv doesn't offer the classic
>>> single speed crankset anymore.
>>
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