Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are you buying one?

[J Schwartz]

Does anyone know if the Roaduno (completes) have a plastic cable guide 
installed under the bottom bracket?

On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 12:56:22 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The risk is pedal strike.  The RoadUno has a low BB height.  Riding fixed 
> forces the rider to pedal through corners, so the risk of pedal strike is 
> real.  A optiomized fixed city bike might have a higher BB.  If you know 
> how to steer at speed without leaning, you can mitigate that risk.  Go for 
> it if you are into it.  It's a manageable risk.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 9:41:48 AM UTC-7 dane...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Why the recommendation to not ride it fixed by Grant? "Too risky." lol.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 5:57:24 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The OP anticipated a buying frenzy, but that clearly hasn't happened in 
>>> week 1 of the pre-sale.  I hope that turns out to be a good thing, and 
>>> gives people the chance to really think about it and decide calmly rather 
>>> than panic-buying with a huge fear of missing out.  Now that the real 
>>> Geo-Chart is out, the 54.5 Roaduno looks a lot better to me than the 54.5 
>>> Hilsen had looked.  Still, if you wanted to give me one for free, the one 
>>> I'd pick would probably be a Silver 58 Complete.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 5:05:40 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 As much as I enjoy single speed riding I don't plan to buy a Roaduno 
 today. I think the Silver with all black components would be so nice. Good 
 luck to all who plan to buy! Keep your fingers on your keyboard.
 Doug

 On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 8:06:56 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> New Email Newsletter all about the Roaduno is out.  So, based on my 
> above "offer", if you plan to buy a 58 or a 61.5 frame set, think about 
> getting the complete instead and letting me in on the parts.  The price 
> delta is $650.  My offer is $700 plus my personal expert labor in helping 
> you pull your complete together.  You'll get the frame a hair cheaper.  I 
> only want to do this if it's local, so we don't have to ship things 
> around. 
>  


> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:54:00 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
 The down tube graphics are exceptional.  I agree the purple "1" on the 
>> silver pops.  I'm hooked on the Saint Jump stickers.  
>>
>> I bought two different R05C0 8U883 bikes because of the rocket 
>> headbadge.  The Rosco Bubbe Road that I owned is available from CMR 
>> right 
>> now, and I endorse it.  
>>
>> I half want to convince one of you frame set buyers to get a complete 
>> instead so I can grab the parts kit.  I want a set of the svelte new 
>> Silver 
>> cranks (in 173) and the Saint Jump wheels are great too.  If you are in 
>> the 
>> East Bay hand-off range and want to do something, let me know.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 3:19:26 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
> Question to the group; anyone ever bought a bike solely for the 
>>> downtube graphics? Riv nailed it with this Roaduno at least in my book. 
>>> I 
>>> do particularly like it on the silver but all three look good to me.
>>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> And I agree about the missing canti option. With the upcoming 
>>> V-brake I would have bit the bullet on a silver one myself. 
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno - Are for you buying one?

[J Schwartz]

Did RBW say if they were upgrading the stock pads on those Yokozuna brakes?
The 559's with decent pads have worked totally fine for me.

On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Oh, it definitely is!
>
> And was one of my very first (and easy) decisions when I began planning 
> and collecting for my build.
>
> Admittedly, they work best when direct mounted, but I’ve never felt they 
> lacked for braking power running as center mounts instead. Especially not 
> on road.
>
> They’re also one of the suggestions Riv makes for brake options on the Uno 
> frame set page.
>
> I do understand how they might be a financial concern for people tho - 
> they’re not exactly cheap!
>
> Although they do tend to come up on the secondhand market often.
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:56 AM, dane...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> Hmm... I live somewhere hilly (Vermont) and ride my roadini on everything 
> granted the pads on the 559s on the roadini are high in the slot nd i 
> swapped out for Kool Stops.  Not arguing that they are the most powerful 
> brakes ever but they seem to do the job.
>
>
> -Dan
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:51:24 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> A Paul Racer (or other centerpull) could be used on a RoadUno (or Homer, 
>> Roadini, etc.), you'd just need to add cable hangers at the headset/stem 
>> and seat binder bolt.
>>
>> My primary road bike is a Malocchio with 559s and fenders. I also have a 
>> Pescadero with maxed out GC610 centerpulls. I've had these bikes setup with 
>> the same fenders, wheels, and tires (moved most of the parts from the 
>> Pescadero to the Malocchio frame when I got it). Breaking performance 
>> between the two setups seems about the same to me and has been perfectly 
>> adequate even when caught in a downpour on the 559s, but (1) I'm fairly 
>> light and live in an area with rolling hills and (2) the 559s are not maxed 
>> out on the front of the Malocchio.
>>
>> Riv says the RoadUno takes 46mm without a fender and 43mm with - maybe 
>> they haven't actually set one up with 43s and 559s but that doesn't sound 
>> problematic to me and my experience with 559s and fenders hasn't been 
>> problematic.
>>
>> I like the RoadUno and am looking forward to seeing the builds, but am 
>> not planning on getting one. My RoadUno proxy is a Handsome Devil with 38s, 
>> fenders, and cantilevers, built up this spring and soon to be converted to 
>> 3x1. It also brakes fine.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 9:37:02 AM UTC-4 Richard Rose wrote:
>>
>>> Is the Paul Racer not an option on these bikes?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:57 AM, Mathias Steiner  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm going to write it down to see if I'm the only one who thinks the 
>>> following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (i) I'm glad the Tektro 559s are available. Even with the pads all the 
>>> way down, they allow "OK" braking even with the factory pads. I'm not sure 
>>> I'd be happy if I lived where it's hilly.
>>>
>>> (ii) Fenders are problematic because the 559s provide obstacles much 
>>> lower than the brake bridge/fork crown. 
>>> Notably, there's a spring sticking down; the silver Roaduno pictures 
>>> show that clearly.
>>>
>>> (iii) Braking is better with Cantis, much better with V brakes. Overall 
>>> I prefer cantilever, for the versatility. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 28, 2024 at 7:14:51 AM UTC-4 saxt...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 For sure, I was in the hunq camp, but I get why a slightly lighter 
 weight option makes sense.  I would have been happy with a SS Hillborne as 
 canti’s would have allowed for just a little bit more tire/fender 
 clearance, I was still tempted when I saw that 650b was the wheel size for 
 my size frame as that’d be different than what I have, but the LR brakes 
 kill it for me. 

 On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 9:51:07 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> It's clear lots of people wanted a single speed Appaloosa or a single 
> speed Hunqapillar.  It's natural for those people to be sad that 
> Rivendell 
> offered a single speed A. Homer Hilsen instead. Those who wanted a single 
> speed A Homer Hilsen are presumably pleased.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 6:13:07 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Another Riv that excited me until the inexplicable change to 
>> sidepulls.
>>
>> I think I know why Riv has done this twice now but damn it is 
>> annoying.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Replacing Albastache with Losco

[J Schwartz]

thanks , very helpful !
the bridge is the trestle path in Rosendale NY

On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 1:37:01 AM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I agree with the previous comments on trying things out via adapter; I 
> also agree it's a great looking bike and a beauty photo! 
>
> I would place my bet that you'll find a 11 or 12cm stem to be right. I 
> know that's massively longer than what you have right now, but the Losco 
> indeed comes back a LOT. I too believe it's the right bar based on your 
> current reach and bar height though! 
>
> On Sunday 16 June 2024 at 05:25:16 UTC-7 tandyn...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Love the negative extension of the Wright stem in the reddit post. After 
>> seeing that, I would totally try the BJ stem backwards if reach was the 
>> issue. I use Albastache on my 55 Platypus with a 50mm Technomic Stem. It's 
>> great for me, now the BJ stem has me curious. 
>> On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 6:16:53 PM UTC-4 Chester wrote:
>>
>>> J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>> Currently built up with Albastache bars on a very short stem ...this Crust 
>>> stem 
>>> <https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-x-crust-bj-stem> 
>>> with only 25mm on extension.  
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, below is off topic, but good luck on getting things dialed in 
>>> with a Losco.
>>>
>>> This all reminded me of coming across a picture of one of the Wright 
>>> Brothers' bicycles that is in the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum:
>>>
>>> https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/52387315912af98bcb12fojpg
>>>
>>> Saw it in a Reddit thread...
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/1d8n0ls/original_wright_brothersbuilt_bicycle_1_of_only_5/
>>>
>>> ...with one of the comments highlighting a couple stems that Analog 
>>> Cycles sells, with some commentary of prevailing geometry at the time the 
>>> Wrights made bikes:
>>>
>>> https://analogcycles.com/products/analog-wright-stem
>>>
>>> Chester
>>> SF Bay Area
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: RBW Mug & Hat

[J Schwartz]

If anyone has another one of these hats and would like to move it on, 
please let me know
I purchased one from Riv when they were released and wore it/washed it 
until the point to total disintegration.
love that hat.

On Monday, April 22, 2024 at 11:47:36 AM UTC-4 gbea...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mug and hat have been sold.
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2024 at 1:09:16 PM UTC-4 Greg Beachy wrote:
>
>> Both are like new as I used them only once or twice. Time for them to 
>> find a home to someone who will use them. Price doesn't include shipping 
>> which I will provide after purchaser provides their zip code.
>>
>> Mug $20
>> Hat $20
>> Purchase both $35
>>
>> Best way to contact me is to text me at 502-974-7707 <(502)%20974-7707>.
>>
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[RBW] WTB wavie bar

[J Schwartz]

Greetings
Curious if anyone is sitting on a wavie bar and would like to move it on
Please let me know if so 
thanks
JS

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[J Schwartz]

Thanks Joe

But the intention for this bike is a go fast-ish, light-ish, road oriented 
bike with 35-38mm tires

Her Bruce Gordon BLT already does what a Plat or Clem does for the most 
part...

Also, I don't see how going up a size in the Roadini helpsthe ETT goes 
from 55.2cm on the 50cm frame to 56.5cm on the 54cm frame.  That's half an 
inch.
and the reach goes from 37.2 to 37.3.

JS
On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I would say your wife is right that this frame is too small for her. It's 
> certainly not going to be helpful information for you now - you have the 
> frame and built it! - but she needs something like a Platypus or Clem L 
> where the reach can be long but still have standover clearance and a 
> reasonable amount of seatpost showing. 
>
> For reference I'm 79pbh and my custom has these numbers: 
> 54.2cm ST
> 63cm ETT (lots of room for Boscos) 
> standover is about 75cm
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> [image: Screenshot_20240107_102903.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:45:26 AM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Interesting , I have one of those zero offset Thomson's...
>> @Johnny Alien, did you increase your stem length?
>>
>> May try that... but I think the Wayback Compact is worth a shot.
>>
>> She thinks she may be the next size up , 54cm ..but I'm pretty sure she's 
>> barely straddle it.  The standover is 81.8cm.  She's got an 80pbh.
>> Plus according to the geo pages, the 50cm and 54cm have essentially the 
>> amount of reach.
>>
>> The crazy thing is she test fit my bike (59cm Romulus with a 9cm stem and 
>> noodles) while I was holding it up and said it was much better ...in terms 
>> of length...not height obviously.  Even then she was starting slide off the 
>> rear of the saddle though.
>>
>> Also on her Bruce Gordon ..with the 13cm stem and Albatross bars she is 
>> using the long setback VO post ...which only comes in 27.2 btw.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 12:01:17 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I have close to the same PBH (80.5) and the same longer torso vs leg 
>>> length. I kept thinking I needed to go back but then on some advice from 
>>> this forum decided to adjust the stem vs saddle and actually bumped the 
>>> saddle forward a little bit. I went to a zero setback Thomson post. It was 
>>> a night and day improvement and I wished I had known to do this earlier. 
>>> This is on a Gallop prototype which is also a road bike frame. Keeping the 
>>> right geometry over the crank is the key to feeling comfortable for me and 
>>> going back was actually making it worse. Someone here can likely explain it 
>>> better and I am sure everyone is different. I know nothing about bike 
>>> fitting.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:07:10 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>>
>>>> Picking up this thread I just bought a 50cm Roadini and had it built up 
>>>> for my wife  (Thanks Bryan!).  The goal being a faster, more roadie bike 
>>>> than she currently rides but still can hit trails.
>>>>
>>>> She has a very long torso and long arms but short (proportionally to 
>>>> her torso) legs...  She's an 80pbh so Right in the sweet spot for a size 
>>>> 50.
>>>> Initially I put Chocos on the bike on a 110mm high-rise stem ...but 
>>>> they come way back... so that probably not the right bar for the Roadini 
>>>> anyway.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screenshot 2024-01-07 at 10.53.16 AM.png]
>>>> Even when mocking the bike up with noodles on a 100mm stem , she felt 
>>>> scrunched up and didn't have the reach she needed.  Her rear end was 
>>>> hanging off the back of the saddle. 
>>>>
>>>> Her other bike is a Bruce Gordon BLT Taiwanese-built touring frame with 
>>>> 26" wheels 
>>>> it's got a 44cm seat tube with a 54cm top tube and a, I think, a 12º 
>>>> slope on the top tube.  We've got a 13cm Nitto stem on it and Albatross 
>>>> bars ...which don't come back nearly as far as the Chocos.
>>>>
>>>> Currently the saddle is a  Brooks B17 all the way back on the stock 
>>>> Kalloy seatpost. 
>>>>
>>>> I'm rebuilding the cockpit with either drops or something like a 
>>>> Wavie...not sure which direction yet, but def something that doesn't come 
>>>> back too much and will use an appropriately long stem.
>>>>
>>>> With regards to seat-posts, I see IRD has

Re: [RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[J Schwartz]

Interesting , I have one of those zero offset Thomson's...
@Johnny Alien, did you increase your stem length?

May try that... but I think the Wayback Compact is worth a shot.

She thinks she may be the next size up , 54cm ..but I'm pretty sure she's 
barely straddle it.  The standover is 81.8cm.  She's got an 80pbh.
Plus according to the geo pages, the 50cm and 54cm have essentially the 
amount of reach.

The crazy thing is she test fit my bike (59cm Romulus with a 9cm stem and 
noodles) while I was holding it up and said it was much better ...in terms 
of length...not height obviously.  Even then she was starting slide off the 
rear of the saddle though.

Also on her Bruce Gordon ..with the 13cm stem and Albatross bars she is 
using the long setback VO post ...which only comes in 27.2 btw.



On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 12:01:17 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I have close to the same PBH (80.5) and the same longer torso vs leg 
> length. I kept thinking I needed to go back but then on some advice from 
> this forum decided to adjust the stem vs saddle and actually bumped the 
> saddle forward a little bit. I went to a zero setback Thomson post. It was 
> a night and day improvement and I wished I had known to do this earlier. 
> This is on a Gallop prototype which is also a road bike frame. Keeping the 
> right geometry over the crank is the key to feeling comfortable for me and 
> going back was actually making it worse. Someone here can likely explain it 
> better and I am sure everyone is different. I know nothing about bike 
> fitting.
>
> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 11:07:10 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Picking up this thread I just bought a 50cm Roadini and had it built up 
>> for my wife  (Thanks Bryan!).  The goal being a faster, more roadie bike 
>> than she currently rides but still can hit trails.
>>
>> She has a very long torso and long arms but short (proportionally to her 
>> torso) legs...  She's an 80pbh so Right in the sweet spot for a size 50.
>> Initially I put Chocos on the bike on a 110mm high-rise stem ...but they 
>> come way back... so that probably not the right bar for the Roadini anyway.
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2024-01-07 at 10.53.16 AM.png]
>> Even when mocking the bike up with noodles on a 100mm stem , she felt 
>> scrunched up and didn't have the reach she needed.  Her rear end was 
>> hanging off the back of the saddle. 
>>
>> Her other bike is a Bruce Gordon BLT Taiwanese-built touring frame with 
>> 26" wheels 
>> it's got a 44cm seat tube with a 54cm top tube and a, I think, a 12º 
>> slope on the top tube.  We've got a 13cm Nitto stem on it and Albatross 
>> bars ...which don't come back nearly as far as the Chocos.
>>
>> Currently the saddle is a  Brooks B17 all the way back on the stock 
>> Kalloy seatpost. 
>>
>> I'm rebuilding the cockpit with either drops or something like a 
>> Wavie...not sure which direction yet, but def something that doesn't come 
>> back too much and will use an appropriately long stem.
>>
>> With regards to seat-posts, I see IRD has come out with a new "Compact" 
>> version of their wayback stem.  It extends 30mm rather than the 50mm of the 
>> previous way -way back version 
>>
>> https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/ird-seatpost-wayback-compact-6972?search=wayback+compact#attr=346,4463,1073
>> and it's comes in 26.8mm
>> I think this could help a lot without the extreme nature of the 50mm 
>> version 
>>
>> Curious if anyone has had success with this post?
>>
>> Also, thinking the B17 may be the wrong saddle just bc of the short rails.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 1:46:45 AM UTC-4 Austin L wrote:
>>
>>> I like the American Classic setback posts. Occasionally they come up in 
>>> 28.6. 
>>>
>>> Another option if you have a makerspace or friend with a lathe is to 
>>> turn down a 27.2.
>>>
>>> Austin
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 3:22:34 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. Leah, for you to use the S-84, the lugged one with 37mm plus 
>>>> setback that comes only in 27.2mm size, you would need to take your bike 
>>>> to 
>>>> a bike shop who works with steel frames and has experience with reaming 
>>>> seat tubes. Reaming a standard 28.6mm outer diameter steel tube to take a 
>>>> 27.2mm post is not only easy, it's standard by most frame 
>>>> designers/builders. 26.8mm is not. Look for shops that have been around 
>>>> for 
>>>> a long time, and do ask about their experie

[RBW] WTB: few items - Choco bar ,700x40 tires, crankset, long reach brakes

[J Schwartz]

Building a Roadini and looking for a few used items in good shape:


   1. Choco bar (norm variety)
   2. 170mm-ish crankset - clipper, sugino or silver either a triple or 
   42/28-ish 
   3. 700x40 tires ...could go down to 38's ...40's better 
   4. Something like good condition 559's.  Probably better to just buy 
   new...but what's out there?

Thanks
JS

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[RBW] FS: Paul Thumbies (31.8mm clamp size) - $55

[J Schwartz]

*Paul Comp* - *Thumbie mounts* 
 
- 
Pair - For Shimano - *31.8 clamp size* 

·  practically new, only used for about a month.  There is a very small 
scratch in the black paint on the underside of one of the mounts where 
you'll never see it once it's mounted

·  *$57 shipping included to lower 48*

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[RBW] Re: spacing between chainrings

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for the feedback
I ended up changing the 5mm spacers to 4mm spacers, replaced the Phil 113mm 
BB to a UN50 110mm BB I had laying around, made some front derailleur limit 
adjustments and cleaned the drivetrain... Quick ride around and things 
seems to be shifting very well.
Haven't had the chain try to dive in between the rings either 

On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 9:27:16 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Joel, for purposes of chaining I'd suggest ignoring the bash guard and 
> reference your chainline as you would for a conventional double (the bash 
> guard is irrelevant to tchainline considerations. If you happen to have a 
> long enough meter/yardstick (or something like it) you can lay one end 
> between the two chainrings and check which cog on the cassette the other 
> end.of stick rests on. For a nine speed the "ideal" would be a right on the 
> 5th cog, i.e., the middle of the cassette. Anything fairly close to that is 
> good. (Apologies if I'm belaboring what you already know).  
> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 4:24:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I would guess on 4mm. The worst that happens is you change em again! 
>>
>> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 12:44:23 PM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Well I already took the crank off
>>> The spacers I used, which I really thought were the ones that came with 
>>> the Silver crank, are indeed 5mm
>>> [image: IMG_0592.jpg]
>>>
>>> But they very well may not be the ones that came with
>>> I also have a set of each of these two below.  One is obviously larger 
>>> around than the other
>>> -The larger diameter spacer measures 3mm tall 
>>> -The small diameter spacer measures 4mm tall
>>> Which would be advisable to put on?
>>> [image: IMG_0593.JPG]
>>> Crazy to think that 1mm here or there would cause the issue of the chain 
>>> slipping down between the rings.
>>> Also, as all this pertains to chainline
>>> I should be referencing the middle chainring in my case to the middle of 
>>> the seat tube to get the appropriate chainline, correct?  (Even though this 
>>> isn't really a triple, but a double with a bashguard in the large spot)
>>> thanks
>>> JS
>>> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 2:56:12 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
>>> NJ wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Suggest calling/writing RBW.*
>>>> I recall a Grant write up a few years ago comparing the Silver to the 
>>>> XD2 2 and I remember something about spacers on the 74mm BCD posts.
>>>>
>>>>  If the crank is on the bike, you can measure the distance form the end 
>>>> of the seat tube to the teeth of the Middle and Inner rings using paper 
>>>> cut 
>>>> to size, and then the difference is the middle to Inner ring spacing and 
>>>> verify if > 5mm.
>>>>
>>>> For reference, my XD-2 with Sugino Rings have ring spacing > thr 5mm 
>>>> Shimano standard:
>>>> Outer to Middle,   7mm
>>>> Middle to Inner,  8mm
>>>>
>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 8:50:06 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> weird question...but here goes
>>>>> I disassembled a Silver triple and had it apart for awhile and 
>>>>> recently put it back together as a double with a bashguard.
>>>>> So, it's Guard>40t>30t.
>>>>> I think I may have used the incorrect spacers between the 74bcd 30t 
>>>>> and the 110bcd 40t...they were in my box of parts.  I'm not sure.  I 
>>>>> think 
>>>>> there is too much space between those two chainrings ...a few times 
>>>>> riding 
>>>>> recently, the chain wants to go down between them
>>>>> Can someone tell me what size this spacers should be and how much 
>>>>> space, in general should be between two chainrings on a triple, 9 speed?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> [image: IMG_0574.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

[J Schwartz]

not sure if this was linked to already 
the elusive canti-rom on I bob...63cm
https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/MkwqEpMLm98/m/cRhR71WqAQAJ

On Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:56:29 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> A. HOMER HILSEN (Toyo)
>
> 61cm
>
> 2400
>
> Carlsbad, CA
>
>
> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/d/carlsbad-fs-61-cm-toyo-built-rivendell/7601518125.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> APPALOOSA
>
> 56cm
>
> 2000
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> ATLANTIS 2
>
> 59cm
>
> 2600
>
> Tacoma, WA
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bid/d/tacoma-rivendell-atlantis-complete-bike/7617558417.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> CHEVIOT
>
> Large
>
> 2500
>
> Chicago, IL
>
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/bik/d/clarendon-hills-rivendell-cheviot/7606457742.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> CLEMS!
>
>
> Clem Smith H
>
> 52cm
>
> 950
>
> Columbus, OH
>
>
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/bik/d/columbus-52cm-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7613412364.html
>
>
> Clem Smith L
>
> 52cm
>
> 800
>
> Brooklyn, NY
>
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-52-cm/7617524349.html
>
>
> Clem Smith L
>
> 59cm
>
> 2250
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7604574423.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> GUS BOOTS WILLSEN
>
> 54cm
>
> 4500
>
> Sheepshead Bay, NY
>
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> LEGOLAS
>
> 59cm
>
> 3400
>
> Portland, OR
>
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> PLATYPUS
>
> 55cm
>
> 2400
>
> Ft. Collins, CO
>
>
> https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/bik/d/fort-collins-2021-rivendell-platypus/7616336674.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> ROADINI
>
> 61cm
>
> 2300
>
> Asheville, NC
>
>
> https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/asheville-rivendell-roadini-61cm/7608896147.html
>
>
> 61cm (orange!)
>
> 2200
>
> Seattle, WA
>
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> SALUKI
>
> 62cm
>
> 1550
>
> Hercules, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/hercules-rivendell-saluki-650b-62cm/7615055602.html
>
>
> ==
>
>
> SAM HILLBORNE
>
> 48cm
>
> 2500
>
> Willow Glen, CA
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/san-jose-48cm-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7613752659.html
>
>
> 53cm
>
> 1700
>
> Atlanta, GA
>
>
> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bik/d/gainesville-rivendell-hillborne/7614929897.html
>
>
> 58cm
>
> 2500
>
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
> https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/d/saint-paul-rivendell-sam-hillborne-58-cm/7615930086.html
>
>
> 62cm
>
> 2000
>
> Northampton, MA
>
>
> https://westernmass.craigslist.org/bik/d/northampton-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7600621142.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Tosco sought

[J Schwartz]

FYI 
saw this on eBay, no relation to seller
31.8 though
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155504597735?hash=item2434cbdae7:g:FOgAAOSwFfFkOVvp=enc%3AAQAI4FUNdqfXh9ITe91ffrr5ECfoQdu5iDr%2B15UaqCp%2Bldzeq1Sq5UOwbeL3KNuH2UYkqb%2BSdEkee6RZWO%2FDr5YN9HEJzrhp214ovDSZ2Mn8RBZX6BHU4oT7J7hfpwsRVMWlewhnjBCUr3fEhVtP8XPw4F%2FVLYiIAiRI2hblJTujN3zv0Wf7L%2BDhmv4akTmUlK3DmeRzUOo1GBPAGs3Pa0Vq8sXmlCusgwj2hzC%2FFTdVFxVG7TjEA0nWFrzs73Q0TVTuha5a%2BHURZSs5p%2Bvf37YdYK%2FmiKYoPZcpUGswT1b9sIQV%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9LH9LL2YQ

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:56:43 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> I posted this a while back, no luck, and someone else posted today so they 
> get first dibs on the fresh post but I am still looking for a Tosco bar.
> I’m located in Sacramento and my first choice is the 60cm (25.4).
> Please reply off list if you have one for sale (and the other person said 
> no) with the shipped price. 
>
> Thanks, Liz in Sacramento 

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[RBW] Re: rack for Wald 139

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for these suggestions.  I hadn't heard of Pelago.   It certainly 
looks like it could do the trick on a budget.  
Yes the P racks seem perfect but they are even more than the Basket Rack. 
 I'm sure they are priced correctly just saying...same thing applies re: my 
original post.
I hadn't thought of the Obentu.  It's also small (8.25" square for a 13" x 
18" basket) but has 5-way attachment to the bike so that should help.
Think I'll give my R-14 a try first even though there's no diving board.
My intention is to be able to carry 2 grocery bags up front and/or farmers 
market hauls which can get heavy and a few miles so need to be smart about 
itwhich may mean just ponying up for the Basket Rack.

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 2:31:59 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: 164BB9A1-C5FD-4DD7-9E6A-865A52AD8E2A.jpeg]
> Pass & Stow always and forever
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 10:47:07 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>>
>> https://mementocycles.com/en/products/atlas-v3-stainless-raw
>>
>> handmade in canada - USD shipped is probably pretty reasonable[image: 
>> PXL_20220913_220339252.jpg]. 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 6:00:20 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, that's the most gorgeous Clementine I've seen yet! Bravo. I like 
>>> the addition of the the cafe lock, too!
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 8:29:52 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> VO Porteur - $165.
>>>> [image: IMG_1621LQ.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> Laing
>>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>> On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:29:38 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>> I'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what 
>>>>> ppl are using for a rack.
>>>>> I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and 
>>>>> I'm considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with 
>>>>> spending $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it 
>>>>> is..  I may pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see 
>>>>> what users of the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.
>>>>> I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people 
>>>>> have used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and 
>>>>> doesn't 
>>>>> have any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's 
>>>>> strong enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> rear of the bike though.
>>>>> Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> JS
>>>>>
>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] rack for Wald 139

[J Schwartz]

Thanks Nick
I haven't seen tha, but looking at it, I think it may be too small ...
the platform is 9.5" long so the 139 would hang 3.5" off the front .
Definitely keeping weight in mind and also surface area below the basket. 
 I suspect something both wider and longer would be best.

On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 8:55:20 PM UTC-4 nicklin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Have you considered a “Soma Lucas 3”?  Approx. $60 I believe.   Comes in 
> black and silver. I have one and use it with a 137 and like it a lot. 
>  Might work well with a 139.  
>
> Do keep the amount of weight you might want to carry (for safety) in mind 
> though.  
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 11, 2023, at 5:29 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> I'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl 
> are using for a rack.
> I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm 
> considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending 
> $288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may 
> pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of 
> the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.
> I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have 
> used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have 
> any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong 
> enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear 
> of the bike though.
> Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?
> thanks
> JS
>
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[RBW] rack for Wald 139

[J Schwartz]

Greetings
I'm interested in racking my Wald 139 big basket and am curious what ppl 
are using for a rack.
I just got an email that the basket rack is back in stock at RBW, and I'm 
considering just buying it but I'm really just not onboard with spending 
$288 on a front rack despite how well it's made and special it is..  I may 
pull the trigger on it anyway but wanted to check here to see what users of 
the 139 are doing to attach it to the fronts of their bikes.
I already have an old Nitto R14 "Top Rack" that I know some people have 
used in the front and zipped a 139 on top.  Mine is older and doesn't have 
any diving board provisions so it's only 4 struts but I assume it's strong 
enough if installed well.   My intention was to use that rack on the rear 
of the bike though.
Any suggestions for a support for the 139 that isn't $288?
thanks
JS

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[RBW] That 7-speed 13-42 cassette

[J Schwartz]

Greetings 
Is anyone using that "Jim" cassette and, if so, are you pairing it with a 
double or going 1x?
How's is working for you?
Thinking of using it 1x for a townie / grocery getter Chev.
thanks
JS

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[RBW] Re: FS: GREEN Dia-Compe DC980 Cantis & SS-6 Levers

[J Schwartz]

Sold


On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:32:12 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> bump and price drop on this canti-brake and lever set 
> $85 shipped 
>
> On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:39:53 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> *Edit - that should read $100 including shipping 
>> Here's another photo of the green brakes from Crust:
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-03-24 at 8.39.24 AM.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings
>>> I purchased these from Blue Lug in 2021.
>>> They are practically new.
>>> The canti brakes were fitted to my Hillborne and test ridden around for 
>>> a few miles but then promptly taken off.   The levers never came out of 
>>> their packaging until now to take the photos.
>>> I love the green but my bike is yellow and it just didn't work together 
>>> like I thought it would.
>>> I paid $178 for the set from Blue Lug shipped to me.
>>> I'll sell for $100 plus shipping 
>>> See pics below including of the front of my bike 
>>> *NOTE - the Dia-Compe hangers aren't pictured here but they will be 
>>> included ..they are also unused.
>>> thanks
>>> Jason[image: brakeset.JPG] 
>>> [image: brake1.JPG]
>>> [image: brakeback.JPG]
>>> [image: brakeleverR.JPG]
>>>
>>> [image: SHbrake.jpg]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: GREEN Dia-Compe DC980 Cantis & SS-6 Levers

[J Schwartz]

bump and price drop on this canti-brake and lever set 
$85 shipped 

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 8:39:53 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> *Edit - that should read $100 including shipping 
> Here's another photo of the green brakes from Crust:
> [image: Screenshot 2023-03-24 at 8.39.24 AM.png]
>
> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 2:46:05 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings
>> I purchased these from Blue Lug in 2021.
>> They are practically new.
>> The canti brakes were fitted to my Hillborne and test ridden around for a 
>> few miles but then promptly taken off.   The levers never came out of their 
>> packaging until now to take the photos.
>> I love the green but my bike is yellow and it just didn't work together 
>> like I thought it would.
>> I paid $178 for the set from Blue Lug shipped to me.
>> I'll sell for $100 plus shipping 
>> See pics below including of the front of my bike 
>> *NOTE - the Dia-Compe hangers aren't pictured here but they will be 
>> included ..they are also unused.
>> thanks
>> Jason[image: brakeset.JPG] 
>> [image: brake1.JPG]
>> [image: brakeback.JPG]
>> [image: brakeleverR.JPG]
>>
>> [image: SHbrake.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[J Schwartz]

I've already gotten rid of a couple and still need to drop one...
I think 3 is the magic number
Currently:
2009 Hillborne, canti 56cm (Original Green , recently painted Harvest Gold) 
- 700x43
2017 Appaloosa 55cm (Silver) - 29x2.1
2019 Cheviot 60cm (metallic Blue) - 700x50
2004 Romulus, canti 59cm (Blue) - 700x35

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:07:47 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> My recollection of the article is that Grant arrived at 9 being the 
> sensible number.  One of the nine on Grant's list was a "project bike", and 
> there was at least one single speed.  The "project bike" slot struck me as 
> the GP version of "N+1" because whenever you finish the project then the 
> "project bike" slot is (by definition) empty, and sufficient grounds to 
> start a new project.  I've got a dialed in stable of 18 with two more on 
> order and a third likely to be ordered.  When I hit 21 I'm going to have to 
> do something about my storage situation.  Even with four addresses, it's 
> getting cozy.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 5:45:16 AM UTC-7 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with 
>> justification. I think it was 7.
>>  Any idea which reader it was in?
>> Thanks!
>> Tom Palmer
>> Twin Lake, MI
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

[J Schwartz]

Doug , if you're referring to the 63mm VO fenders.. They should fit.
I believe they are featured in this blog post from a few years ago on a 29" 
wheeled App with some mid-50mm tires
https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185091706269/who-rides-an-appaloosa-john-a-familiar-face-in

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 8:37:05 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Well I haven’t done anything with them yet, but I went ahead and ordered 
> the 700C 63mm fenders while they were on sale.  My thought is that I just 
> skip the centimeter or so where the fenders pass between the forks and the 
> seat stays when I’m reshaping. I doubt the minor difference in width will 
> be noticeable , but I can’t think of any reason why it shouldn’t work just 
> fine.  I’ll update with pics when I get to work on them…
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:02 PM Paul Yokanovich  wrote:
>
>> That's an idea Doug, however by reshaping the 63mm 700c fender to fit the 
>> smaller diameter 650b you would be widening the fender.  You would probably 
>> want to start with a fender that's more narrower.
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:34:50 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want 
 to spend though :^(

 I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to 
 reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if 
 you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it 
 would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up 
 ugly or ruined…

 Doug

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
 pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my 
> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These 
> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I 
> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>
> Paul
>


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[RBW] WTB: IRD Sub-C FD

[J Schwartz]

Greetings, 
These  
are sold out at Riv...
Curious if anyone picked one up and doesn't need it.
I'm rebuilding my Sam and it looks like my current FD is going to be too 
long for the 40/30 crankset going on.
I'll get the Stubby skeleton key FD from RBW if no one is wanting to part 
with their IRD Sub-C

Thanks
JS

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[RBW] Re: Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[J Schwartz]

Thanks Jeremy
very helpful indeed.


On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:45:43 AM UTC-5 Jeremy Till wrote:

> Not exactly the data point you were looking for, but I run nominal 700x40 
> WTB Nanos on my green Rambouillet. I use Paul Racer M brakes on that bike 
> to achieve max clearance, so it may be similar to what you have on a 
> Canti-rom. The tires measure out around 37.5mm on narrow Velocity Aerohead 
> rims. The limiting point on the tire clearance is the chainstay bridge. I 
> picked up a pair of Steilacooms at a bike swap last year and plan to 
> replace the Nanos with them soon so I will have more specific data then. 
>
> Picture of the current setup:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2mXmCj6
>
> -Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA 
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Yes, sorry , I meant Canti-braked Romulus.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:29:43 AM UTC-5 Dave C wrote:
>>
>>> Canti-Romulus, not Romanceur
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:19:30 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi JS, 
>>>>
>>>> The canti Romanceur fits 650b wheels and the Steilacoom tires are 700c.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe try the Juniper Ridge. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Charlie in Maine 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:45:05 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if 
>>>>> anyone has tried.
>>>>> thank you
>>>>> JS
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[J Schwartz]

Yes, sorry , I meant Canti-braked Romulus.

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 10:29:43 AM UTC-5 Dave C wrote:

> Canti-Romulus, not Romanceur
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:19:30 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi JS, 
>>
>> The canti Romanceur fits 650b wheels and the Steilacoom tires are 700c.
>>
>> Maybe try the Juniper Ridge. 
>>
>>
>> Charlie in Maine 
>>
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 12:45:05 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if anyone 
>>> has tried.
>>> thank you
>>> JS
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Anyone running RH Steilacoom on a Canti-Rom?

[J Schwartz]

I think these will fit , but wanted to check here first to see if anyone 
has tried.
thank you
JS

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yves Gomez – mustardified

[J Schwartz]

Hi Ryan, I think we may have been in touch when I was researching the Imron 
Harvest Gold color.

I'll make a new post to detail specifics since this thread isn't about the 
sale of this frameset, 
but to answer your question: I didn't intend to sell it but I'm trying to 
reduce the amount of things I have.  I have an Appaloosa and a Romulus , so 
the Sam sort of sits in between them.  As much as it's been with me for 13 
years or so, I am resisting the pull of emotional attachment to an object. 

If anyone is thinking about working with Jack at Franklin, I can strongly 
recommend him.  But make sure you have patience as it will take months.
thanks
Jason

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:49:43 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Yup...in 2001 I had my Riv Road (Curt Goodrich-built) painted Imron 
> Harvest Gold. Originally I thought of red and then decided on something 
> different...from the autumn color palette - I love fall. This was before 
> the color became so popular. I endured some ribbing about it being the 
> same   color as poopy diapers, etc .,  but it turned out to be a great 
> color which changes subtly depending on lighting(sunlight/cloud/indoors). 
>
> Your painter did a great job on that Sam. If you don't mind me asking, why 
> are you selling it after putting all that work into it? Too small? Another 
> bike? Excuse me for being nosy...or curious and apologies/condolences  in 
> advance if it's a life event forcing the sale
>
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 7:37:27 AM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>>
>> Really nice looking Yves
>> I had my Hillborne repaired and re-painted by Jack also...I believe it's 
>> the same color.
>> I requested Imron Harvest Goldwhich Riv used in the early days on 
>> some their bike...maybe the long low and some customs.
>> Looks very similar 
>> Jack did an amazing job.  replacing my derailleur hanger and adding a 
>> couple rack mounts.
>> this is my 2009 Hillborne I purchased new from Riv when they came 
>> out...the original green/gold.
>> it's a 56.  I've had it for a long time.  But will likely be selling it 
>> in the coming weeks.  Probably as a frameset
>> [image: IMG_1385.jpg]
>> [image: IMG_2341.jpg]
>> JS
>> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 10:10:26 AM UTC-4 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 5:54:49 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Max, How did you go about conveying to Jack the color you chose ?  Jack 
>>>> told me the Dupont Nason paint he applies uses the same color chart as the 
>>>> former Imron, but those charts don't translate well into digital images 
>>>> online. The actual colors in person are very different than the digital 
>>>> chart images. 
>>>>
>>>> Your yellow paint is surely more mustard than candy as it has a certain 
>>>> earthy/organic/softness in it's undertone. 
>>>>
>>>> Three cheers for Jack ! I have a custom frame from him and another one 
>>>> in the works, plus he did some repair and a repaint of my Bombadil. I'm 
>>>> thinking of a yellow of some sort for my new frame also, something that 
>>>> conveys the deep yellows in a sunflower and compliments both the silver 
>>>> and 
>>>> black of the parts and tires. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 1:39:27 AM UTC-4 Max S wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Leah. I like Lemondrop, though I do like my mustard! 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all for the compliments! It's for my one-and-only, so after 
>>>>> (re)building up the bike, I only took a short test ride around the block. 
>>>>> Everything stayed attached, nothing rattled, and the bike handled very 
>>>>> nicely. Single-speed, low-ish gearing, smooth and quiet. I'm divided on 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> black-painted wheels, but am fresh out of anything silver and 135 mm 
>>>>> spaced, so this will have to do for now. I guess it makes the frame color 
>>>>> pop more. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Y'all the best! 
>>>>>
>>>>> - Max "pop-pop" in A2
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 4:36:41 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t think we can call this mustard. That’s not a pretty word and 
>>>>>> this color is deserving of better. It’s Lemondrop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>

[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, $2500

[J Schwartz]

Kurt, I'm essentially the same size as GP also... I think he's 85pbh...I'm 
84.5
We are the same height otherwise. 5'10.5" with a 75cm saddle height.
I think a lot of the stretched out feeling has a lot to do with personal 
preference ...some people don't mind leaning forward and others do.
I suspect another big piece is the seat tube and head tube angles being 
slack , coupled with the longer bike in general.   For me, I enjoy being 
stretched out and forward on on my Hillborne but less so on the Cheviot.   
The cheviot is a great ride for me, but I tend to like it for rides shorter 
than 15 miles or so.  Longer than that and I want to be on my Sam.
thanks
JS

On Sunday, July 24, 2022 at 9:01:53 AM UTC-4 Kurt Henry wrote:

> J, really cool bike! You mention that the Cheviot feels stretched out for 
> you. How tall are you? I’m right on the line between the given sizing for 
> the 55 and 60. I think I’m close to Grant’s size (5’10” with a 75cm saddle 
> height), and I know he rides a 60cm. But I’m curious if you’re in the same 
> range and still feeling stretched.
> Thanks!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster PA 
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 1:41:22 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> it's been two weeks so I'm bumping again and dropping the price
>>
>> $2115 for the compete Cheviot + shipping from 12401
>> $1100 for the frameset + shipping from 12401
>>
>> On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 2:53:03 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings 
>>> I've had a lot of interest in this complete Chev as well as just for the 
>>> frameset but no sale has been made yet.
>>> So I'm going to drop the price:
>>>
>>> $2225 for the complete  bike + shipping 
>>> $1195 for the frameset 
>>>
>>> contact me with any questions 
>>> thanks
>>> JS
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 6:13:19 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bump on this
>>>> Will consider selling Frameset only 
>>>> thanks
>>>> js
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FS: Cheviot complete 60cm 
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_3552.JPG]
>>>>>
>>>>>  [image: IMG_2800 2.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Here’s a trailish ready big Chev for sale
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Frameset purchased from Justin on this list who bought it from Riv
>>>>>
>>>>> I built it up and have ridden for about a year and a half but have 
>>>>> come to the conclusion that it’s just too big for me 
>>>>>
>>>>> Even with the Toscos I'm too spread out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise I love this thing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s set up as a sort of off-roady mixte tourer
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> 60cm metallic blue framset, plenty of beausage but in great shape
>>>>>
>>>>> (some scrapes, rubs, etc, here and there, no dents or problems)
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> BB – stock
>>>>>
>>>>> Headset – stock 
>>>>>
>>>>> Seatpost – stock 
>>>>>
>>>>> Crankset – vintage Sugino “ML” triple , 110/74 175mm length , grey 
>>>>> anodized arms
>>>>>
>>>>> Chainrings - 42 black outer, 35 silver alu middle, 26 polished steel 
>>>>> inner
>>>>>
>>>>> Pedals – original grip kings 
>>>>>
>>>>> Chain – SRAM , 9 speed
>>>>>
>>>>> Cassette – 9 speed 12-36 Shimano HG400
>>>>>
>>>>> Front der – IRD Alpina on IRD clamp
>>>>>
>>>>> Rear der – Shimano Altus ...the LX in the pictures is no longer on the 
>>>>> bike
>>>>>
>>>>> Front Wheel – Shimano dynohub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith 
>>>>> db14 spokes , 36h
>>>>>
>>>>> Rear Wheel – Shimano XT (m770) hub laced to Velocity Synergy, 
>>>>> wheelsmith db14 spokes 36h
>>>>>
>>>>> Tires – Contenental Race King 700 x 2.0 on tubes 
>>>>>
>>>>> Front brake – Paul centerpull , silver
>>>>>
>>>>> Rear brake – Tektro long pull 
>>>>>
>>>>> Brake levers – Tektro RL520 
>>>>>
>>>>> Stem – nitto quill adapter, Nitto threadless “hi riser” from Riv, 110mm
>>>>>
>>>>> Bars – Riv Tosco , 600mm
>>>>>
>>>>> No saddle, No bags or racks include 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can ship correctly from my local shop (Riv Dealer)
>>>>>
>>>>> shipping at your expense
>>>>>
>>>>> Bike is located in New York...Hudson Valley 
>>>>>
>>>>> Can meet in NYC if necessary 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, $2500

[J Schwartz]

it's been two weeks so I'm bumping again and dropping the price

$2115 for the compete Cheviot + shipping from 12401
$1100 for the frameset + shipping from 12401

On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 2:53:03 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Greetings 
> I've had a lot of interest in this complete Chev as well as just for the 
> frameset but no sale has been made yet.
> So I'm going to drop the price:
>
> $2225 for the complete  bike + shipping 
> $1195 for the frameset 
>
> contact me with any questions 
> thanks
> JS
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 6:13:19 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Bump on this
>> Will consider selling Frameset only 
>> thanks
>> js
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> FS: Cheviot complete 60cm 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3552.JPG]
>>>
>>>  [image: IMG_2800 2.jpg]
>>>
>>> Here’s a trailish ready big Chev for sale
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Frameset purchased from Justin on this list who bought it from Riv
>>>
>>> I built it up and have ridden for about a year and a half but have come 
>>> to the conclusion that it’s just too big for me 
>>>
>>> Even with the Toscos I'm too spread out.
>>>
>>> Otherwise I love this thing
>>>
>>>
>>> It’s set up as a sort of off-roady mixte tourer
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 60cm metallic blue framset, plenty of beausage but in great shape
>>>
>>> (some scrapes, rubs, etc, here and there, no dents or problems)
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> BB – stock
>>>
>>> Headset – stock 
>>>
>>> Seatpost – stock 
>>>
>>> Crankset – vintage Sugino “ML” triple , 110/74 175mm length , grey 
>>> anodized arms
>>>
>>> Chainrings - 42 black outer, 35 silver alu middle, 26 polished steel 
>>> inner
>>>
>>> Pedals – original grip kings 
>>>
>>> Chain – SRAM , 9 speed
>>>
>>> Cassette – 9 speed 12-36 Shimano HG400
>>>
>>> Front der – IRD Alpina on IRD clamp
>>>
>>> Rear der – Shimano Altus ...the LX in the pictures is no longer on the 
>>> bike
>>>
>>> Front Wheel – Shimano dynohub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith db14 
>>> spokes , 36h
>>>
>>> Rear Wheel – Shimano XT (m770) hub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith 
>>> db14 spokes 36h
>>>
>>> Tires – Contenental Race King 700 x 2.0 on tubes 
>>>
>>> Front brake – Paul centerpull , silver
>>>
>>> Rear brake – Tektro long pull 
>>>
>>> Brake levers – Tektro RL520 
>>>
>>> Stem – nitto quill adapter, Nitto threadless “hi riser” from Riv, 110mm
>>>
>>> Bars – Riv Tosco , 600mm
>>>
>>> No saddle, No bags or racks include 
>>>
>>>
>>> I can ship correctly from my local shop (Riv Dealer)
>>>
>>> shipping at your expense
>>>
>>> Bike is located in New York...Hudson Valley 
>>>
>>> Can meet in NYC if necessary 
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, $2500

[J Schwartz]

Greetings 
I've had a lot of interest in this complete Chev as well as just for the 
frameset but no sale has been made yet.
So I'm going to drop the price:

$2225 for the complete  bike + shipping 
$1195 for the frameset 

contact me with any questions 
thanks
JS

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 6:13:19 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Bump on this
> Will consider selling Frameset only 
> thanks
> js
>
> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> FS: Cheviot complete 60cm 
>>
>> [image: IMG_3552.JPG]
>>
>>  [image: IMG_2800 2.jpg]
>>
>> Here’s a trailish ready big Chev for sale
>>
>>  
>>
>> Frameset purchased from Justin on this list who bought it from Riv
>>
>> I built it up and have ridden for about a year and a half but have come 
>> to the conclusion that it’s just too big for me 
>>
>> Even with the Toscos I'm too spread out.
>>
>> Otherwise I love this thing
>>
>>
>> It’s set up as a sort of off-roady mixte tourer
>>
>>  
>>
>> 60cm metallic blue framset, plenty of beausage but in great shape
>>
>> (some scrapes, rubs, etc, here and there, no dents or problems)
>>
>>  
>>
>> BB – stock
>>
>> Headset – stock 
>>
>> Seatpost – stock 
>>
>> Crankset – vintage Sugino “ML” triple , 110/74 175mm length , grey 
>> anodized arms
>>
>> Chainrings - 42 black outer, 35 silver alu middle, 26 polished steel inner
>>
>> Pedals – original grip kings 
>>
>> Chain – SRAM , 9 speed
>>
>> Cassette – 9 speed 12-36 Shimano HG400
>>
>> Front der – IRD Alpina on IRD clamp
>>
>> Rear der – Shimano Altus ...the LX in the pictures is no longer on the 
>> bike
>>
>> Front Wheel – Shimano dynohub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith db14 
>> spokes , 36h
>>
>> Rear Wheel – Shimano XT (m770) hub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith 
>> db14 spokes 36h
>>
>> Tires – Contenental Race King 700 x 2.0 on tubes 
>>
>> Front brake – Paul centerpull , silver
>>
>> Rear brake – Tektro long pull 
>>
>> Brake levers – Tektro RL520 
>>
>> Stem – nitto quill adapter, Nitto threadless “hi riser” from Riv, 110mm
>>
>> Bars – Riv Tosco , 600mm
>>
>> No saddle, No bags or racks include 
>>
>>
>> I can ship correctly from my local shop (Riv Dealer)
>>
>> shipping at your expense
>>
>> Bike is located in New York...Hudson Valley 
>>
>> Can meet in NYC if necessary 
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, $2500

[J Schwartz]

Bump on this
Will consider selling Frameset only 
thanks
js

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> FS: Cheviot complete 60cm 
>
> [image: IMG_3552.JPG]
>
>  [image: IMG_2800 2.jpg]
>
> Here’s a trailish ready big Chev for sale
>
>  
>
> Frameset purchased from Justin on this list who bought it from Riv
>
> I built it up and have ridden for about a year and a half but have come to 
> the conclusion that it’s just too big for me 
>
> Even with the Toscos I'm too spread out.
>
> Otherwise I love this thing
>
>
> It’s set up as a sort of off-roady mixte tourer
>
>  
>
> 60cm metallic blue framset, plenty of beausage but in great shape
>
> (some scrapes, rubs, etc, here and there, no dents or problems)
>
>  
>
> BB – stock
>
> Headset – stock 
>
> Seatpost – stock 
>
> Crankset – vintage Sugino “ML” triple , 110/74 175mm length , grey 
> anodized arms
>
> Chainrings - 42 black outer, 35 silver alu middle, 26 polished steel inner
>
> Pedals – original grip kings 
>
> Chain – SRAM , 9 speed
>
> Cassette – 9 speed 12-36 Shimano HG400
>
> Front der – IRD Alpina on IRD clamp
>
> Rear der – Shimano Altus ...the LX in the pictures is no longer on the bike
>
> Front Wheel – Shimano dynohub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith db14 
> spokes , 36h
>
> Rear Wheel – Shimano XT (m770) hub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith 
> db14 spokes 36h
>
> Tires – Contenental Race King 700 x 2.0 on tubes 
>
> Front brake – Paul centerpull , silver
>
> Rear brake – Tektro long pull 
>
> Brake levers – Tektro RL520 
>
> Stem – nitto quill adapter, Nitto threadless “hi riser” from Riv, 110mm
>
> Bars – Riv Tosco , 600mm
>
> No saddle, No bags or racks include 
>
>
> I can ship correctly from my local shop (Riv Dealer)
>
> shipping at your expense
>
> Bike is located in New York...Hudson Valley 
>
> Can meet in NYC if necessary 
>
> Thank you
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 58cm

[J Schwartz]

This SimpleOne is sold

On Friday, March 4, 2022 at 3:16:33 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:

> Greetings, 
> I've had some interest in questions but as of now, this 58cm SimpleOne is 
> still available, 
> After consideration, I'm dropping the pice by $300 to $2500.
> More photos in the original post link 
> thanks
> JS
> [image: SimpleOne1.jpg]
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 3:32:59 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> This one hurts.  I know I'm gonna regret selling this bike...but I'm not 
>> riding it too much lately and just converted my Hillborne to a 2 speed with 
>> a Paul Melvin...and need to continue to shed a few bikes.
>> I bought this as a frameset from Rivendell when they were released, back 
>> in 2012 or so.
>> I recently had the bike repainted by Bilenky .  They also did a small 
>> dent repair in the downtube.
>> They repainted the bike the same slimy green but with a cream head tube. 
>>  They also did all the little windows and fork wings in cream.
>> It's a 58cm and a special bike.  It's been set up as a kind of trail 
>> scorcher.  I've ridden it a lot on the rail trails here in the Hudson 
>> Valley.  It's got a 6 tooth spread on the crank chainrings and 700x43cm 
>> Bruce Gordon tires,   Also a White Industries 20T green freewheel.
>> I've mostly ridden it in the big (middle) chainring and really have only 
>> manually shifted it for some long monster climbs, on pavement.  Wheels are 
>> Synergy 32h laced to high polish hi-flange Paul hubs.  I recently changed 
>> the hubs from quick release to the fancy hex nuts and washers and keep 2 
>> hex wrenches attached to the seat stays with super magnets for fast rear 
>> axle adjustments on the road.
>> While the paint is relatively new and it's not had a lot of use since 
>> being repainted, there are a few chips here and there.  The only one that 
>> is of note is a scrape on the bottom of the downtube (facing the road, so 
>> you can't see it) that happened when I dropped a pedal wrench when 
>> attaching pedals.
>> Other than that, on the rack braze-ons, there's a little paint 
>> scuffingand the rear dropouts of course. **Note, in the photo below 
>> , the rear dropouts looked more scuffed than they arethat's actually 
>> white grease that's showing up in the photo *
>>
>> This bike is so good.  I had an orange Quickbeam in the same size (58) 
>> ..they are essentially identical frames...but the SimpleOne is better.
>> The drivetrain on this bike is great.  It engages instantly ...not sure 
>> if that's due to the heavier duty White Industries green "trials 
>> <https://www.whiteind.com/product/trials-freewheels/>" freewheel (more 
>> engagement points than the standard W.I. freewheels)...but it just clicks 
>> right it and feels like a single speed should.  Pedaling in reverse leads 
>> to no chain suck or chain slap or whatever that's called.  
>> The freewheel is 20t.  That may sound high, but it worked very well for 
>> my needs which included climbing on paths.  The front chainrings are 38 and 
>> 32 (I believe).
>> Bars are Chocos upside down on a 10cm Tallux...with ESI grips and 
>> shellacked Newbaums on the curves.
>>
>> Parts list below:
>>
>> Rivendell SimpleOne 
>>
>> Size 58cm 
>>
>> *NO SADDLE OR PEDALS*
>>
>> Recently repainted by Bilenky (original slimy green but with cream 
>> headtube)
>>
>> ·  Stock Tange headset
>>
>> ·  Stock Tange 107mm bottom bracket 
>>
>> ·  Stock Taiwanese seatpost (27.2mm)
>>
>> ·  Nitto Tallux - 10cm , 26.0
>>
>> ·  Nitto Riv Choco bars (with Nitto 26.0 to 25.4 shim)
>>
>> ·  Newbaums green/blue with amber shellac & twined
>>
>> ·  ESG chunky silicon grips in Grey
>>
>> ·  Origin8 duo-trigger , 2-finger brake levers in Silver (for both 
>> short & long pull) (from Riv)
>>
>> ·  Dia-compe 980 cantilever brakes with upgraded pads in Silver (from 
>> Riv)
>>
>> ·  Sugino XD2 crankset in 170mm (from Riv, has some wear on the 
>> anodizing on the arms)
>>
>> ·  6-tooth spread – Inner ring - Sugino 32T, Middle ring - Sugino 38T 
>> & Outside ring - Sugino bashguard (which I had powdercoated black)
>>
>> ·  8-speed SRAM chain 
>>
>> ·  White Industries 20T green (beefier trials version) freewheel
>>
>> ·  Wheels:
>>
>> ·  Built by Anthony King @ Longleaf 
>>
>> ·  Velocity Synergy – 32 hole, front & rear, newest version, no 
>> o

[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 58cm

[J Schwartz]

I've had some interest and questions but this SimpleOne is still for sale.
After some consideration, I'm dropping the price $300 to $2500.
[image: IMG_3227-2.jpg]

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:30:09 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> Not my size and too many bikes including a 70's SS PX-10 with moustache 
> bars...and the non-trials WI freewheel on 36-hole late 70's Campy Record 
> hubs, which I love, ratty as it is.
>
> But...what a sweet bike! Love the build; you sure put a lot of thought 
> into it. I sense a bit of seller's remorse. Hope it finds a good home...it 
> is a beauty!
>
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 2:32:59 PM UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> This one hurts.  I know I'm gonna regret selling this bike...but I'm not 
>> riding it too much lately and just converted my Hillborne to a 2 speed with 
>> a Paul Melvin...and need to continue to shed a few bikes.
>> I bought this as a frameset from Rivendell when they were released, back 
>> in 2012 or so.
>> I recently had the bike repainted by Bilenky .  They also did a small 
>> dent repair in the downtube.
>> They repainted the bike the same slimy green but with a cream head tube. 
>>  They also did all the little windows and fork wings in cream.
>> It's a 58cm and a special bike.  It's been set up as a kind of trail 
>> scorcher.  I've ridden it a lot on the rail trails here in the Hudson 
>> Valley.  It's got a 6 tooth spread on the crank chainrings and 700x43cm 
>> Bruce Gordon tires,   Also a White Industries 20T green freewheel.
>> I've mostly ridden it in the big (middle) chainring and really have only 
>> manually shifted it for some long monster climbs, on pavement.  Wheels are 
>> Synergy 32h laced to high polish hi-flange Paul hubs.  I recently changed 
>> the hubs from quick release to the fancy hex nuts and washers and keep 2 
>> hex wrenches attached to the seat stays with super magnets for fast rear 
>> axle adjustments on the road.
>> While the paint is relatively new and it's not had a lot of use since 
>> being repainted, there are a few chips here and there.  The only one that 
>> is of note is a scrape on the bottom of the downtube (facing the road, so 
>> you can't see it) that happened when I dropped a pedal wrench when 
>> attaching pedals.
>> Other than that, on the rack braze-ons, there's a little paint 
>> scuffingand the rear dropouts of course. **Note, in the photo below 
>> , the rear dropouts looked more scuffed than they arethat's actually 
>> white grease that's showing up in the photo *
>>
>> This bike is so good.  I had an orange Quickbeam in the same size (58) 
>> ..they are essentially identical frames...but the SimpleOne is better.
>> The drivetrain on this bike is great.  It engages instantly ...not sure 
>> if that's due to the heavier duty White Industries green "trials 
>> <https://www.whiteind.com/product/trials-freewheels/>" freewheel (more 
>> engagement points than the standard W.I. freewheels)...but it just clicks 
>> right it and feels like a single speed should.  Pedaling in reverse leads 
>> to no chain suck or chain slap or whatever that's called.  
>> The freewheel is 20t.  That may sound high, but it worked very well for 
>> my needs which included climbing on paths.  The front chainrings are 38 and 
>> 32 (I believe).
>> Bars are Chocos upside down on a 10cm Tallux...with ESI grips and 
>> shellacked Newbaums on the curves.
>>
>> Parts list below:
>>
>> Rivendell SimpleOne 
>>
>> Size 58cm 
>>
>> *NO SADDLE OR PEDALS*
>>
>> Recently repainted by Bilenky (original slimy green but with cream 
>> headtube)
>>
>> ·  Stock Tange headset
>>
>> ·  Stock Tange 107mm bottom bracket 
>>
>> ·  Stock Taiwanese seatpost (27.2mm)
>>
>> ·  Nitto Tallux - 10cm , 26.0
>>
>> ·  Nitto Riv Choco bars (with Nitto 26.0 to 25.4 shim)
>>
>> ·  Newbaums green/blue with amber shellac & twined
>>
>> ·  ESG chunky silicon grips in Grey
>>
>> ·  Origin8 duo-trigger , 2-finger brake levers in Silver (for both 
>> short & long pull) (from Riv)
>>
>> ·  Dia-compe 980 cantilever brakes with upgraded pads in Silver (from 
>> Riv)
>>
>> ·  Sugino XD2 crankset in 170mm (from Riv, has some wear on the 
>> anodizing on the arms)
>>
>> ·  6-tooth spread – Inner ring - Sugino 32T, Middle ring - Sugino 38T 
>> & Outside ring - Sugino bashguard (which I had powdercoated black)
>>
>> ·  8-speed SRAM chain 
>>
>> ·  White Indus

[RBW] FS: SimpleOne 58cm

[J Schwartz]

This one hurts.  I know I'm gonna regret selling this bike...but I'm not 
riding it too much lately and just converted my Hillborne to a 2 speed with 
a Paul Melvin...and need to continue to shed a few bikes.
I bought this as a frameset from Rivendell when they were released, back in 
2012 or so.
I recently had the bike repainted by Bilenky .  They also did a small dent 
repair in the downtube.
They repainted the bike the same slimy green but with a cream head tube. 
 They also did all the little windows and fork wings in cream.
It's a 58cm and a special bike.  It's been set up as a kind of trail 
scorcher.  I've ridden it a lot on the rail trails here in the Hudson 
Valley.  It's got a 6 tooth spread on the crank chainrings and 700x43cm 
Bruce Gordon tires,   Also a White Industries 20T green freewheel.
I've mostly ridden it in the big (middle) chainring and really have only 
manually shifted it for some long monster climbs, on pavement.  Wheels are 
Synergy 32h laced to high polish hi-flange Paul hubs.  I recently changed 
the hubs from quick release to the fancy hex nuts and washers and keep 2 
hex wrenches attached to the seat stays with super magnets for fast rear 
axle adjustments on the road.
While the paint is relatively new and it's not had a lot of use since being 
repainted, there are a few chips here and there.  The only one that is of 
note is a scrape on the bottom of the downtube (facing the road, so you 
can't see it) that happened when I dropped a pedal wrench when attaching 
pedals.
Other than that, on the rack braze-ons, there's a little paint 
scuffingand the rear dropouts of course. **Note, in the photo below , 
the rear dropouts looked more scuffed than they arethat's actually 
white grease that's showing up in the photo *

This bike is so good.  I had an orange Quickbeam in the same size (58) 
..they are essentially identical frames...but the SimpleOne is better.
The drivetrain on this bike is great.  It engages instantly ...not sure if 
that's due to the heavier duty White Industries green "trials 
" freewheel (more 
engagement points than the standard W.I. freewheels)...but it just clicks 
right it and feels like a single speed should.  Pedaling in reverse leads 
to no chain suck or chain slap or whatever that's called.  
The freewheel is 20t.  That may sound high, but it worked very well for my 
needs which included climbing on paths.  The front chainrings are 38 and 32 
(I believe).
Bars are Chocos upside down on a 10cm Tallux...with ESI grips and 
shellacked Newbaums on the curves.

Parts list below:

Rivendell SimpleOne 

Size 58cm 

*NO SADDLE OR PEDALS*

Recently repainted by Bilenky (original slimy green but with cream headtube)

·  Stock Tange headset

·  Stock Tange 107mm bottom bracket 

·  Stock Taiwanese seatpost (27.2mm)

·  Nitto Tallux - 10cm , 26.0

·  Nitto Riv Choco bars (with Nitto 26.0 to 25.4 shim)

·  Newbaums green/blue with amber shellac & twined

·  ESG chunky silicon grips in Grey

·  Origin8 duo-trigger , 2-finger brake levers in Silver (for both 
short & long pull) (from Riv)

·  Dia-compe 980 cantilever brakes with upgraded pads in Silver (from 
Riv)

·  Sugino XD2 crankset in 170mm (from Riv, has some wear on the 
anodizing on the arms)

·  6-tooth spread – Inner ring - Sugino 32T, Middle ring - Sugino 38T & 
Outside ring - Sugino bashguard (which I had powdercoated black)

·  8-speed SRAM chain 

·  White Industries 20T green (beefier trials version) freewheel

·  Wheels:

·  Built by Anthony King @ Longleaf 

·  Velocity Synergy – 32 hole, front & rear, newest version, no offset 
on the rear

·  Paul Hi-flange front & rear hubs (32hole)- polished silver with the 
added strong Paul hex nuts and washers (rear 120mm)

·  Wheelsmith DB14 2.0/1.7/2.0 Silver Spoke w/ Silver Brass Nipple

·  Velox rim tape

·  Bruce Gordon Rock n Road tires in black sidewall, tubes

·  Jagwire brake cable and housing (White)

·  Pletscher Twin Legger kickstand with added rubber feet

Price is $2800 net to me.  I'm in New York's Hudson Valley.  Can bring the 
bike to NYC though.  Shipping is doable at your cost.  I can ship from a 
quality bike shop (Riv dealer) in my hometown.

Here are some quick iPhone pics.  PHOTOS 



In terms of "issues" , there really aren't any.  The aforementioned scrape 
on the bottom of the downtube.there's a scrape in the Tallux stem from 
a Crane Bell that was on there for awhile.   The Clamp bolt in the stem is 
starting to strip out ...Should be replacedNew bolts 

 
can be purchased from Rivendell for $5.00.  There is a some slight zig zag 
on the sleeve of the Choco bars ...came to me that way from another list 
member.

Let me know if you have questions 

[RBW] Re: Riv backpack?

[J Schwartz]

FYI 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-Sackville-StickPack-StickSack-Nylon-Backpack-/165338158893?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 Zach Hale wrote:

> Unfortunately this post didn't get approved quickly enough because it sold 
> in the 3 days since I tried to post it here – sorry all! Thanks for all the 
> interest. I wish I could sell bags to all y'all.
>
> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:44:19 AM UTC-8 Zach Hale wrote:
>
>> I've got a stick pack for sale if anyone's interested. $80 + ship
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CY-S0RRJD-G/?utm_medium=copy_link
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 3:08:55 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Some more info for you:
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-16 at 6.08.08 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 4:57:54 PM UTC-5 Corwin wrote:
>>>
 Not take anything away from the backpack being offered - but Rivendell 
 Mountain Works is in business again:

 https://www.rivendellmountainworks.com/

 Thanks,


 Corwin

 On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 12:46:41 PM UTC-8 Norman R wrote:

> RMW backpack (favorably remarked upon by Grant, I recall). Barely 
> used, no blemishes. If this is what you meant, let me know.
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 3:09:19 PM UTC-5 Wally Estrella wrote:
>
>> sorry, I can't recall the name of the RBW backpacks from many moons 
>> ago.
>> Anyone have one in decent condition they'd part with?  I'd trade a 
>> new/unworn short brimmed orange RBW hat and $ for one it. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/aug-20-no-26-lugs-new-bikes-used-bikes
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wally in the land of only one area code.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: wtb: crust bj stem (26.0)

[J Schwartz]

good to know, thank you

On Monday, January 17, 2022 at 7:32:33 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I called Garrett about these a few weeks ago and he said they were 
> expecting a container from Nitto sometime in the next few months. I realize 
> given how freight is going worldwide this doesn't mean much. But reason to 
> hope!
>
> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 7:51:47 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings, looking for a crust/nitto BJ stem in 26.0 clamp size.  Silver 
>> preferred, but black OK too.
>> plan to use this with albastaches on my S.H.
>> Stem looks like this:
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-01-16 at 7.50.07 PM.png]
>> Crust is out ...not sure where to find anything else like it.
>> If anyone has one they aren't using, please let me know
>> thanks
>> JS
>>
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for all the input
I can't really respond from my phone so had to wait until I'm on a laptop.

Yes, I'm familiar with the other sized options , other gearing options, 
Sheldon's calculator, etc.  Specifically looking for a 12-34 cassette in 
8-speed.
and...it looks like Sunrace is the best option given the price of the IRD.
The gearing is only slightly different with the IRD being maybe a little 
more preferable to the roadish rider.
12-13-15-18-21-24-28-34, [IRD]
&
12-14-16-18-21-24-28-34, [Sunrace]
both coated steel.

There are occasionally 12-34 8-speed XT cassettes that pop up on eBay in 
various states of usability given that group is 20 years old.

Plenty of expensive 12-34 8-speed XTR cassettes too...but I'm not 
interested in titanium nor the prices.
Really surprised this isn't a more common and readily avail. cassette size. 

thanks
JS
On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 3:13:14 PM UTC-4 gkmur...@gmail.com wrote:

> IRD has a 12-34 but pricing is like $80. I try to just stick with Shimano 
> or SRAM when I can. 
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 3:27 PM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
>> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
>> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
>> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 
>>
>> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
>> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
>> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
>> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>>
>> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
>> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>>
>> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>>
>> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use 
>> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 
>> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
>> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
>> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
>> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
>> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
>> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
>> digits read like tea leaves. 
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings, 
>>>>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>>>>> besides the Sunrace?
>>>>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>>>>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>>>>> thank you
>>>>> JS
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[RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[J Schwartz]

Greetings, 
Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
besides the Sunrace?
Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other options. 
 Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
thank you
JS

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa drive train guidance

[J Schwartz]

I've never seen that thing before (Moutain Tamer)...Looks useful as long as 
derailleurs can handle it.
Would be fun to make a quad , something like 46/34/26/18 with a 12-34 in 
the rear ...no need for large cassette or roadlink device

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 8:26:34 AM UTC-4 Bill Schairer wrote:

> Check out the Mountain Tamer (http://abundantadventures.com/mt_triple.html).  
> I use this with a 19t cog with Silver crankset and a 12-36 9 speed cassette 
> on my Atlantis without any issues.
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 7:34:55 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>
>> Michael - I already have a 24 tooth front chainring (as part of double) 
>> so don't think it can go any lower.
>>
>> Joe and Nick - Thanks! Based on the clearance, I also suspected that I 
>> would need an extender for the derailer hanger.
>>
>> Looking for others comments on impact of going from 9 to 10 speed. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 4:05:42 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> What about a smaller chainring? I have a 32 tooth WolfTooth on my 
>>> Appaloosa. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:26:52 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
 I used a Goatlink (
 https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/goatlink) when using a 
 GRX 810 RD (rated for 34t cassette) with an 11-42 cassette and two 
 chainrings up front. But you need a shadow RD for that to work, which 
 yours 
 isn't.

 Nick

>>>

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[RBW] WTB: budgety 110/74 crank arms

[J Schwartz]

Looking to make a triple out of some rings I have here at home...and just 
need the arms.
Looking for something 80's or 90's or 00's
110/74
170 or 172.5 will consider 175 but don't have much experience with them
silver preferred 
condition - operable ...it's ok if they're scratched or banged up a bit
There are many options of old suginos and deores on eBay but just seeing 
what may be lurking in some parts boxes here.

These 

 
seems to be the best deal on something new and I don't hate the black (if 
the rings and pedals were silver) but would prefer silver arms

Thanks
JS

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[RBW] Re: FS: Various things , small parts, couple old stems, vtg 600 mini group

[J Schwartz]

Price Drops and adjustments : shipping included to lower 48

·   *   Paul Comp* - *Thumbie mounts* 
> 
>  - 
> Pair - For Shimano - *31.8 clamp size* 
>
> ·  practically new, only used for about a month.  There is a very 
> small scratch in the black paint on the underside of the mount where you'll 
> never see it once it's mounted
>
> ·  *$65 shipped*
>

  *Paul Comp* - *Stem Cap Light Mount*  
–
 
Black

·  Never used but has been sitting in a parts box for a couple 
years...so minimal shop wear
·  *$25* shipped

 

> · Origin8 Garry ii Handlebars 
> 
>  - 
> Black · *AL6061-T6 construction, * *530mm drop width / 360mm top 
> width,**25º flared drops, **Accepts bar-end shifters*
>
  slight scratches on front near logos  see pics

> ·  *$35 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *White Industries* - *VBC Chainring Bolts* 
> 
>  with 
> the wedges - *actual pic 
> *
>
> ·  New, never used - 5 bolts and 5 wedges plus 1 extra bolt
>
> ·  *$25 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *White Industries *– *Crank Lockring 
> *
>  – 
> Silver
>
> ·  Purchased for a VBC/Eno crank, 3-notch, to be used with *THIS 
> * W.I. 
> lockring tool
>
> ·  *$10 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *Bruce Gordon* - *QS2 
> *
>  - 
> Quick Switch System
>
> ·  To swap two cockpits on one bike
>
> ·  *with instructions* (requires 2 full sets of bars, stem, shifters, 
> levers, tape, housing, cable, etc...Only for shift cables ...and probably 
> intended for Canti brakes where you can just un-straddle the hanger ...not 
> sure how it would platy with V-brakes - *barrels and connecting locks for 
> front derailleur, rear derailleur ,front shifter 1, rear shifter 1, front 
> shifter 2, rear shifter 2*
>
> ·  new unused
>
> ·  *$30 shipped*
>

 

> ·   *   Bruce Gordon* - *Stainless strapless Clips* 
> 
>
> ·  Sizes: *Mens U.S. 10 and under*
>
> ·  Lightly used ...minimal scuffing on front of cages...could easily 
> be sanded/buffed
>
> ·  *$40 shipped*
>

 

> · * Velo Orange* – *Massload Porteur Double Kickstand 
> *
>
> ·  Unused
>
> ·  *$25 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *Shimano XT* – *SPD Pedals 
> *
>  – 
> “XT PD-M785”
>
·  some typical scuffing on outer cages but actually very very low 
> miles on the pedals
>
> ·  *$40 shipped *
>

 

> ·  *MKS* 3000R *traditional rubber pedal 
> *
>
> ·  Unused, some slight shopwear…purchased for my old Bleriot and never 
> used them.  Very handsome, brass nuts, and heavy, great for a city bike
>
> ·  *$30 shipped*
>

 

> ·  *Nitto quill Stem, Unsure of model 
> *.
>   Says 
> 5354 on stem.
>
·  ≈95mm length & ≈ 95mm insertion above max line
>
> ·  I believe it might be a “young 3” stem with a 72º rise
>
> ·  Well used with markings 
>
> ·  *$20 shipped*
>
>
>
> ·  *Shimano 600ex “arabesque” mini group 
> *,
>  
> early ‘80’s
>
> ·  These came on my first steel roadish bike, a Ross Aristocrat.  That 
> bike was great!
>
> ·  Calipers – nutted, Levers w/ blue diacompe hoods, dt shifters on 
> clamp, rear derailleur (short cage), front derailleur 
>
> ·  *$75 shipped*
>
>  
>
>  
>

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[RBW] FS: Various things , small parts, couple old stems, vtg 600 mini group

[J Schwartz]

Hello, 

Still thinning my collection of things and putting up some various small 
pieces that may be of interest to some of you.

I'm not posting photos for every item on this one but can send a couple if 
you email asking. Prices don't include shipping from New York State

Thank you


·   *   Paul Comp* - *Thumbie mounts* 
 
- 
Pair - For Shimano - *31.8 clamp size* 

·  practically new, only used for about a month.  There is a very small 
scratch in the black paint on the underside of the mount where you'll never 
see it once it's mounted

·  *$75*



·  *Paul Comp* - *Stem Cap Light Mount*  
–
 
Black

·  Never used but has been sitting in a parts box for a couple 
years...so minimal shop wear

·  *$25*



·  *White Industries* - *VBC Chainring Bolts* 

 with 
the wedges - *actual pic 
*

·  New, never used - 5 bolts and 5 wedges plus 1 extra bolt

·  *$20*



·  *White Industries *– *Crank Lockring 
*
 – 
Silver

·  Purchased for a VBC/Eno crank, 3-notch, to be used with *THIS 
* W.I. 
lockring tool

·  *$15*



·  *Bruce Gordon* - *QS2 
*
 - 
Quick Switch System

·  To swap two cockpits on one bike

·  *with instructions* (requires 2 full sets of bars, stem, shifters, 
levers, tape, housing, cable, etc...Only for shift cables ...and probably 
intended for Canti brakes where you can just un-straddle the hanger ...not 
sure how it would platy with V-brakes - *barrels and connecting locks for 
front derailleur, rear derailleur ,front shifter 1, rear shifter 1, front 
shifter 2, rear shifter 2*

·  new unused

·  *$30*



·   *   Bruce Gordon* - *Stainless strapless Clips* 


·  Sizes: *Mens U.S. 10 and under*

·  Lightly used ...minimal scuffing on front of cages...could easily be 
sanded/buffed

·  *$45*



· * Velo Orange* – *Massload Porteur Double Kickstand 
*

·  Unused

·  *$20*

·  *Shimano XT* – *SPD Pedals 
*
 – 
“XT PD-M785”

·  some typical scuffing on outer cages but actually very very low 
miles on the pedals

·  *$45*



·  *MKS* 3000R *traditional rubber pedal 
*

·  Unused, some slight shopwear…purchased for my old Bleriot and never 
used them.  Very handsome, brass nuts, and heavy, great for a city bike

·  *$25*



·  *Tektro* *Long Pull Drop Bar Levers 
* – “RL 520”

·  For V-Brakes , Silver Color

·  Practically New 

·  *$25*



·  *Nitto Technomic 5cm, 26.0 Stem 
*

·  150mm above max insertion line

·  Used condition, finish is worn

·  *$25*



·  *Nitto quill Stem, Unsure of model 
*.
  Says 
5354 on stem.

·  ≈95mm length & ≈ 95mm insertion above max line

·  I believe it might be a “young 3” stem with a 72º rise

·  Well used with markings 

·  *$15*



·  *Shimano 600ex “arabesque” mini group 
*,
 
early ‘80’s

·  These came on my first steel roadish bike, a Ross Aristocrat.  That 
bike was great!

·  Calipers – nutted, Levers w/ blue diacompe hoods, dt shifters on 
clamp, rear derailleur (short cage), front derailleur 

·  *$100*

 

 

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Re: [RBW] Share More Riv Riding Pics

[J Schwartz]

@Max S, Is your SimpleOne fixed gear?  Can you comment on those ratios in 
the context of climbing?  Would love to see a drive side view of that bike.
Jason
On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 10:27:49 AM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> One of the regular weekend morning rides to a local farm / market on my 
> Simple One: 
> (40-50 miles, 1,500-1,800 ft elevation gain, usually a 42x16 or 50x18 gear 
> combo) 
>
> - Max "pendant pastry portage peripheral" in A2 
>
> [image: Rivendell Simple One - GOAT.jpg]
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 8:00:53 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Most of the riding in my area is roads because that's just what we have 
>> BUT some of the roads are really nice. I just did an organized ride through 
>> farmland in Newville, PA yesterday. Not in the photo but I did the ride on 
>> my newly completed Charlie Gallop prototype.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:23:32 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Atlantis on the Wabash Trace
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:51 PM, st nick  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> <20210919_234743.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Two more. 
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>> <20210919_234955.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Handlebars - Nitto Dream & Orgin8 Gary II

[J Schwartz]

Dream bars are sold 
*Gary bars reduced to $30 plus shipping *
* Origin8 "Gary II" Bar - Black - good condition ...used, never 
crashed,...some slight scratches across the logos...see pics*

>   These were on my SimpleOne for awhile.  They are an off-road drop 
> bar.
>
> *Specs as pulled from the web:*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Origin8 Gary II Gravel Handlebar 25.4Off-road drop handlebar great for 
> gravel ridingAL6061-T6 construction530mm drop width / 360mm top width25º 
> flared drops for improved comfort, control, power, and stabilityAccepts 
> bar-end shiftersISO-Road safety certified*
>
> These exact bars aren't made any longer...I found a review of them online 
> posted HERE 
> 
> *$30*
>
>
> cleaned of tape residue, etc.
> prices are exclusive of shipping from New York State
> *Pics HERE 
> *
>

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[RBW] FS: Handlebars - Nitto Dream & Orgin8 Gary II

[J Schwartz]

*(1) Nitto "Mark's Dream Bar" M176 from Rivendell - 46cm, heat treated, 
excellent condition ...almost as new*
  These are the rare Heat Treated 46cm version from Rivendell.  From 
what I can tell, these are now only available in 40,42 and 44 sizes and not 
HT
  Bought these from Rivendell a few years ago and they were on my 
Protovelo that essentially sat unused and is now sold. 
Soma site HERE 

 
with some specs (for the 40 and 42 versions)
*$55*


*(2) Origin8 "Gary II" Bar - Black - good condition ...used, never 
crashed,...some slight scratches across the logos...see pics*
  These were on my SimpleOne for awhile.  They are an off-road drop bar.

*Specs as pulled from the web:*






*Origin8 Gary II Gravel Handlebar 25.4Off-road drop handlebar great for 
gravel ridingAL6061-T6 construction530mm drop width / 360mm top width25º 
flared drops for improved comfort, control, power, and stabilityAccepts 
bar-end shiftersISO-Road safety certified*

These exact bars aren't made any longer...I found a review of them online 
posted HERE 

*$35*


Both bars have been cleaned of tape residue, etc.
prices are exclusive of shipping from New York State
Pics HERE 


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[RBW] Re: Multispeed wheel for Quickbeam or SimpleOne riders

[J Schwartz]

This wheel is tentatively sold pending payment 
Thank you

On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:40:28 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> I will add that I THINK I have the extra bits from Paul to build this hub 
> into a different size wheel in the future ...those will be included if I 
> have them
> I can also include the derailleur hanger and clamp-on cable stops
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:36:46 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> This is a rear wheel that I had built around a Paul "Jono" hub 
>> (discontinued) that allowed a wheel to be built with a variable spacing.
>> The wheel is built for the 120mm rear spacing of my SimpleOne.   The Jono 
>> is a freewheel hub.
>> The Paul hub is High Polish w/ the quick release option.  
>> Rim is Velocity Synergy 700C 32H Silver
>> Spokes are Wheelsmith DB14 2.0/1.7/2.0 Silver w/ Silver Brass Nipples
>>
>> I rand this on my SimpleOne with a double up front and a very nice, 
>> Suntour "pro-compe" 5-speed freewheel (13-34) which turned my SimpleOne 
>> into a SimpleTen.
>> I had to add a bolt-on derailleur hanger and a clamp-on cable cable stop 
>> in order to do it.
>>
>> This was built by Anthony King @ Longleaf about 5 years ago.  
>> The wheel has essentially no miles on it.  I fitted it, dialed in the 
>> derailleurs, rode it a couple of weekends and, because I was moving from 
>> NYC to upstate NY, my SimpleTen sat in a storage unit for a year.
>> After moving, I returned the SimpleOne to a single speed and have been 
>> hanging onto this wheel thinking I would set it up multi-speed again but I 
>> have too many multi-speed bikes.  So it's time to pass this on.
>>
>> Here's a bit of info for Paul on the Jono Hub:
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/BIqSWlkB50V/?hl=en
>>
>> Photos here:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S7eDANCu4cgD8zmk6
>>
>> The Suntour freewheel isn't included but is available.
>> Also, it's currently set up with a tubed Pasela tg 700x37 tire. Not 
>> necessarily included but if you want it , let me know.
>>
>> price: $220 for the wheel
>> $30 for the 5-speed 13-34 Suntour pro-compe freewheel (very nice 
>> condition, clean and lubed)
>> $235 if you purchase together 
>>
>> shipping from New York State is additional
>> [image: IMG_2259.JPG]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: cockpit - Analog/Spank "flare 25º" + DiaCompe 287 V-brake levers

[J Schwartz]

This is now sold, thank you

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 7:01:14 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Dropping the price on this set-up to $115 plus shipping from New York 
>
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 11:32:33 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Hello, 
>> I have a Bar/Lever combo here for sale for $135 plus shipping from New 
>> York State
>>
>> Analog/Spank  Flare 25º wide drops , 46cm...these are super interesting 
>> and incredibly comfy bars in that the 31.8mm clamp diameter size is 
>> extended all the way along the flats of the bars just until the bar bends 
>> towards the brake levers.
>>
>> https://analogcycles.com/products/spank-flare-25-degree-bars?variant=40095929401521
>>
>> Size is 46cm but they feel much wider than say..a noodle...because of 
>> that flare ...they are wide enough to clear my quite huge BagsxBird (which 
>> is a custom sized about 18" wide including pockets) 
>>
>> The levers are the much appreciated Dia Compe 287-V with gum colored 
>> hoods.
>> The choices for long pull drop bar levers are few and these are perhaps 
>> the most elegant out there.
>>
>> The bars are currently wrapped in some sort of orange/red Newbaurms and 
>> then shellacked with half amber/half clear and finished off the the V.O. 
>> waxed finishing thread in black. 
>>
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/grips-wraps/products/extra-waxed-thread-for-bar-wraps-other-leathers
>>
>> There is brake housing under the wrap and that housing extends about 18" 
>> for the rear once it exits the tape and about 15.5" for the front once it 
>> exits the tape.  Definitely long enough for a 55cm Appaloosa with V'brakes 
>> and a short/high stem.
>>
>> Obviously you'll need a face-plater type stem in 31.8mm size.  I used an 
>> Analog 30mm on my Appaloosa. 
>>
>> Including a bunch of pics of them on my bike with both teal and rust 
>> colored wrap and off.
>>
>> *PHOTOS HERE: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/oUdhqsZ6mHLJ23NV7>*
>>
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[RBW] Re: Multispeed wheel for Quickbeam or SimpleOne riders

[J Schwartz]

I will add that I THINK I have the extra bits from Paul to build this hub 
into a different size wheel in the future ...those will be included if I 
have them
I can also include the derailleur hanger and clamp-on cable stops
On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:36:46 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> This is a rear wheel that I had built around a Paul "Jono" hub 
> (discontinued) that allowed a wheel to be built with a variable spacing.
> The wheel is built for the 120mm rear spacing of my SimpleOne.   The Jono 
> is a freewheel hub.
> The Paul hub is High Polish w/ the quick release option.  
> Rim is Velocity Synergy 700C 32H Silver
> Spokes are Wheelsmith DB14 2.0/1.7/2.0 Silver w/ Silver Brass Nipples
>
> I rand this on my SimpleOne with a double up front and a very nice, 
> Suntour "pro-compe" 5-speed freewheel (13-34) which turned my SimpleOne 
> into a SimpleTen.
> I had to add a bolt-on derailleur hanger and a clamp-on cable cable stop 
> in order to do it.
>
> This was built by Anthony King @ Longleaf about 5 years ago.  
> The wheel has essentially no miles on it.  I fitted it, dialed in the 
> derailleurs, rode it a couple of weekends and, because I was moving from 
> NYC to upstate NY, my SimpleTen sat in a storage unit for a year.
> After moving, I returned the SimpleOne to a single speed and have been 
> hanging onto this wheel thinking I would set it up multi-speed again but I 
> have too many multi-speed bikes.  So it's time to pass this on.
>
> Here's a bit of info for Paul on the Jono Hub:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BIqSWlkB50V/?hl=en
>
> Photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S7eDANCu4cgD8zmk6
>
> The Suntour freewheel isn't included but is available.
> Also, it's currently set up with a tubed Pasela tg 700x37 tire. Not 
> necessarily included but if you want it , let me know.
>
> price: $220 for the wheel
> $30 for the 5-speed 13-34 Suntour pro-compe freewheel (very nice 
> condition, clean and lubed)
> $235 if you purchase together 
>
> shipping from New York State is additional
> [image: IMG_2259.JPG]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: cockpit - Analog/Spank "flare 25º" + DiaCompe 287 V-brake levers

[J Schwartz]

Dropping the price on this set-up to $115 plus shipping from New York 

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 11:32:33 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Hello, 
> I have a Bar/Lever combo here for sale for $135 plus shipping from New 
> York State
>
> Analog/Spank  Flare 25º wide drops , 46cm...these are super interesting 
> and incredibly comfy bars in that the 31.8mm clamp diameter size is 
> extended all the way along the flats of the bars just until the bar bends 
> towards the brake levers.
>
> https://analogcycles.com/products/spank-flare-25-degree-bars?variant=40095929401521
>
> Size is 46cm but they feel much wider than say..a noodle...because of that 
> flare ...they are wide enough to clear my quite huge BagsxBird (which is a 
> custom sized about 18" wide including pockets) 
>
> The levers are the much appreciated Dia Compe 287-V with gum colored hoods.
> The choices for long pull drop bar levers are few and these are perhaps 
> the most elegant out there.
>
> The bars are currently wrapped in some sort of orange/red Newbaurms and 
> then shellacked with half amber/half clear and finished off the the V.O. 
> waxed finishing thread in black. 
>
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/grips-wraps/products/extra-waxed-thread-for-bar-wraps-other-leathers
>
> There is brake housing under the wrap and that housing extends about 18" 
> for the rear once it exits the tape and about 15.5" for the front once it 
> exits the tape.  Definitely long enough for a 55cm Appaloosa with V'brakes 
> and a short/high stem.
>
> Obviously you'll need a face-plater type stem in 31.8mm size.  I used an 
> Analog 30mm on my Appaloosa. 
>
> Including a bunch of pics of them on my bike with both teal and rust 
> colored wrap and off.
>
> *PHOTOS HERE: <https://photos.app.goo.gl/oUdhqsZ6mHLJ23NV7>*
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: SRAM Apex 10 speed mini group

[J Schwartz]

this is sold, thank you

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> [image: IMG_8155.JPG][image: IMG_8154.JPG][image: IMG_8157.JPG]
>
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:10:29 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> [image: e copy.jpg][image: d copy.jpg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:09:55 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> [image: c copy.jpg][image: b copy.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 3:08:52 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: a copy.jpg]This set was on my Protovelo and saw very little 
>>>> use.
>>>> I sold the frame last year and have been deciding what to do with this 
>>>> group but it's time to move it on.
>>>> I believe there isn't more than 250 miles max on these components. 
>>>>
>>>> Condition is excellent...the rear derailleur has just a tiny bit of 
>>>> scuffing you'd expect from just being on a bike .
>>>> Included are: 
>>>>
>>>> SRAM Apex double-tap Brifters  - 10 speed "exact actuation"
>>>> SRAM Apex long cage rear derailleur 
>>>> SRAM Apex front derailleur + a 28.6 clamp 
>>>> SRAM PG1-050 10-speed Cassette 11-32 (11,12,13,15,17,19,22,25,28,32)
>>>> SRAM PC-1051 10-speed Chain 
>>>>
>>>> Purchased new , this group would be around $400 with internet pricing 
>>>> Selling here for $215 shipped to lower 48
>>>> Thanks 
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires (mostly 700c)

[J Schwartz]

All tires sold Except the :

   - *Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.??  - **Black sidewalls- **New, 
   Never Mounted   **$125 Shipped *


On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 9:05:09 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Here's what is available with some price reductions on the remaining tires:
>
>
>- 
>
>
>- Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
>
>
>- 
>   - Black sidewalls
>  - *New, Never Mounted*
> - 
>
> *$115 *
>  - 
>   - 
>  - 
> - 
>  - 
>
>
>- Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
>
>
>- 
>   - Black sidewalls
>  - 
>   
>
>- 
>   - 
>  - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread 
>  life remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread caused 
> by a 
>  sharp piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for 
> over a 
>  year and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 flat 
> on 
>  these tires before the slit...and never after*
>   
>
>- 
>   - 
>  - 
> - 
>
> *$30 *
>  - 
>   - 
>  - 
> - 
> - 
>
>
>- Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line – 700x38
>
>
>- 
>   - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
>
>
>- 
>   - 
>  - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like a 
>  cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my 
> Hillborne *
>   
>
>- 
>   - 
>  - 
> - *$30*
>  
> Also, I just sold a few sets of used tires for pretty cheap...I'm on the 
> lookout for pair of used 700x50's with a somewhat combination tread like a 
> Cazadero, etc... similarly on the cheap
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 11:34:14 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Rat Trap Pass tentatively sold
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:21:07 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like the Sim.Works tires are spoken for...will update this post if 
>>> they remain available 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings, I have some tires for sale that may be interest...All prices 
>>>> are for 2 tires, a pair... and do not include shipping from New York State
>>>>
>>>> No Tubeless goup in these tires and all the used tires are relatively 
>>>> clean 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>- Sim.Works- Super Yummy – 29x2.22
>>>>   - Peanut Butter sidewalls
>>>>  - *Very lightly used, almost new*
>>>> - *$95.00*
>>>>
>>>> - Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
>>>>   - Black sidewalls
>>>>  - *New, Never Mounted*
>>>> - 
>>>>
>>>> *$125 *
>>>>  - Soma - Supple Vitesse - SL - 700x38
>>>>   - Black sidewalls
>>>>  - *New, Mounted on clean rims with tubes to test but then 
>>>>  taken-off and unridden*
>>>> - 
>>>>
>>>> *$60 *
>>>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
>>>>   - Black sidewalls
>>>>  - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread 
>>>>  life remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread 
>>>> caused by a 
>>>>  sharp piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC 
>>>> for over a 
>>>>  year and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 
>>>> flat on 
>>>>  these tires before the slit...and never after*
>>>> - 
>>>>
>>>> *$35 *
>>>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) – Rat Trap Pass – Standard – 26x2.3
>>>>   - Tan sidewalls
>>>>  - *Moderately used, many more miles left *
>>>> - 
>>>>
>>>> *$48 *
>>>>  - Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance 
>>>>Line – 700x38
>>>>   - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
>>>>  - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like 
>>>>  a cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my 
>>>> Hillborne *
>>>> - *$38*
>>>>  - Rivendell – Jack Brown – Green compound “light” – 700x33.3
>>>>   - Tan Sidewall
>>>>  - *Used, had these on my SimpleOne for about a year, the 
>>>>  “checkerboard” pattern is fading to slick but still visible… I’d 
>>>> guess half 
>>>>  life left?*
>>>> - *$42*
>>>>  
>>>> Thank you
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh

[J Schwartz]

Hello, I couldn't find the info about the 7 speed cassette ...Does anyone 
know if it's an imminent release or many months off?
thanks
On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 12:13:48 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:

>  
> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is 
> nothing there. 
> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did 
> anyone read about it?
> It looks like a great option,
> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires (mostly 700c)

[J Schwartz]

Here's what is available with some price reductions on the remaining tires:


   - Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
  - Black sidewalls
 - *New, Never Mounted*
- 

*$115 *
 - 
  - 
 - 
- 
 - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
  - Black sidewalls
 - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread life 
 remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread caused by a 
sharp 
 piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for over a 
year 
 and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 flat on 
these 
 tires before the slit...and never after*
- 

*$30 *
 - 
  - 
 - 
- 
- Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line – 700x38
  - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
 - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like a 
 cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my Hillborne *
- *$30*
 
Also, I just sold a few sets of used tires for pretty cheap...I'm on the 
lookout for pair of used 700x50's with a somewhat combination tread like a 
Cazadero, etc... similarly on the cheap
On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 11:34:14 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Rat Trap Pass tentatively sold
>
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:21:07 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Looks like the Sim.Works tires are spoken for...will update this post if 
>> they remain available 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings, I have some tires for sale that may be interest...All prices 
>>> are for 2 tires, a pair... and do not include shipping from New York State
>>>
>>> No Tubeless goup in these tires and all the used tires are relatively 
>>> clean 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>- Sim.Works- Super Yummy – 29x2.22
>>>   - Peanut Butter sidewalls
>>>  - *Very lightly used, almost new*
>>> - *$95.00*
>>>
>>> - Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
>>>   - Black sidewalls
>>>  - *New, Never Mounted*
>>> - 
>>>
>>> *$125 *
>>>  - Soma - Supple Vitesse - SL - 700x38
>>>   - Black sidewalls
>>>  - *New, Mounted on clean rims with tubes to test but then 
>>>  taken-off and unridden*
>>> - 
>>>
>>> *$60 *
>>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
>>>   - Black sidewalls
>>>  - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread 
>>>  life remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread 
>>> caused by a 
>>>  sharp piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for 
>>> over a 
>>>  year and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 
>>> flat on 
>>>  these tires before the slit...and never after*
>>> - 
>>>
>>> *$35 *
>>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) – Rat Trap Pass – Standard – 26x2.3
>>>   - Tan sidewalls
>>>  - *Moderately used, many more miles left *
>>> - 
>>>
>>> *$48 *
>>>  - Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line 
>>>– 700x38
>>>   - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
>>>  - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like 
>>>  a cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my 
>>> Hillborne *
>>> - *$38*
>>>  - Rivendell – Jack Brown – Green compound “light” – 700x33.3
>>>   - Tan Sidewall
>>>  - *Used, had these on my SimpleOne for about a year, the 
>>>  “checkerboard” pattern is fading to slick but still visible… I’d 
>>> guess half 
>>>  life left?*
>>> - *$42*
>>>  
>>> Thank you
>>> JS
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires (mostly 700c)

[J Schwartz]

Rat Trap Pass tentatively sold

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:21:07 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Looks like the Sim.Works tires are spoken for...will update this post if 
> they remain available 
>
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings, I have some tires for sale that may be interest...All prices 
>> are for 2 tires, a pair... and do not include shipping from New York State
>>
>> No Tubeless goup in these tires and all the used tires are relatively 
>> clean 
>>
>>  
>>
>>- Sim.Works- Super Yummy – 29x2.22
>>   - Peanut Butter sidewalls
>>  - *Very lightly used, almost new*
>> - *$95.00*
>>
>> - Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
>>   - Black sidewalls
>>  - *New, Never Mounted*
>> - 
>>
>> *$125 *
>>  - Soma - Supple Vitesse - SL - 700x38
>>   - Black sidewalls
>>  - *New, Mounted on clean rims with tubes to test but then 
>>  taken-off and unridden*
>> - 
>>
>> *$60 *
>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
>>   - Black sidewalls
>>  - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread 
>>  life remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread 
>> caused by a 
>>  sharp piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for 
>> over a 
>>  year and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 flat 
>> on 
>>  these tires before the slit...and never after*
>> - 
>>
>> *$35 *
>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) – Rat Trap Pass – Standard – 26x2.3
>>   - Tan sidewalls
>>  - *Moderately used, many more miles left *
>> - 
>>
>> *$48 *
>>  - Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line 
>>– 700x38
>>   - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
>>  - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like a 
>>  cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my 
>> Hillborne *
>> - *$38*
>>  - Rivendell – Jack Brown – Green compound “light” – 700x33.3
>>   - Tan Sidewall
>>  - *Used, had these on my SimpleOne for about a year, the 
>>  “checkerboard” pattern is fading to slick but still visible… I’d 
>> guess half 
>>  life left?*
>> - *$42*
>>  
>> Thank you
>> JS
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires (mostly 700c)

[J Schwartz]

Jack Brown Green's tentatively sold

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:21:07 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Looks like the Sim.Works tires are spoken for...will update this post if 
> they remain available 
>
> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Greetings, I have some tires for sale that may be interest...All prices 
>> are for 2 tires, a pair... and do not include shipping from New York State
>>
>> No Tubeless goup in these tires and all the used tires are relatively 
>> clean 
>>
>>  
>>
>>- Sim.Works- Super Yummy – 29x2.22
>>   - Peanut Butter sidewalls
>>  - *Very lightly used, almost new*
>> - *$95.00*
>>
>> - Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
>>   - Black sidewalls
>>  - *New, Never Mounted*
>> - 
>>
>> *$125 *
>>  - Soma - Supple Vitesse - SL - 700x38
>>   - Black sidewalls
>>  - *New, Mounted on clean rims with tubes to test but then 
>>  taken-off and unridden*
>> - 
>>
>> *$60 *
>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
>>   - Black sidewalls
>>  - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread 
>>  life remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread 
>> caused by a 
>>  sharp piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for 
>> over a 
>>  year and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 flat 
>> on 
>>  these tires before the slit...and never after*
>> - 
>>
>> *$35 *
>>  - Compass (Rene Herse) – Rat Trap Pass – Standard – 26x2.3
>>   - Tan sidewalls
>>  - *Moderately used, many more miles left *
>> - 
>>
>> *$48 *
>>  - Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line 
>>– 700x38
>>   - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
>>  - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like a 
>>  cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my 
>> Hillborne *
>> - *$38*
>>  - Rivendell – Jack Brown – Green compound “light” – 700x33.3
>>   - Tan Sidewall
>>  - *Used, had these on my SimpleOne for about a year, the 
>>  “checkerboard” pattern is fading to slick but still visible… I’d 
>> guess half 
>>  life left?*
>> - *$42*
>>  
>> Thank you
>> JS
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: cockpit - Analog/Spank "flare 25º" + DiaCompe 287 V-brake levers

[J Schwartz]

Hello, 
I have a Bar/Lever combo here for sale for $135 plus shipping from New York 
State

Analog/Spank  Flare 25º wide drops , 46cm...these are super interesting and 
incredibly comfy bars in that the 31.8mm clamp diameter size is extended 
all the way along the flats of the bars just until the bar bends towards 
the brake levers.
https://analogcycles.com/products/spank-flare-25-degree-bars?variant=40095929401521

Size is 46cm but they feel much wider than say..a noodle...because of that 
flare ...they are wide enough to clear my quite huge BagsxBird (which is a 
custom sized about 18" wide including pockets) 

The levers are the much appreciated Dia Compe 287-V with gum colored hoods.
The choices for long pull drop bar levers are few and these are perhaps the 
most elegant out there.

The bars are currently wrapped in some sort of orange/red Newbaurms and 
then shellacked with half amber/half clear and finished off the the V.O. 
waxed finishing thread in black. 
https://velo-orange.com/collections/grips-wraps/products/extra-waxed-thread-for-bar-wraps-other-leathers

There is brake housing under the wrap and that housing extends about 18" 
for the rear once it exits the tape and about 15.5" for the front once it 
exits the tape.  Definitely long enough for a 55cm Appaloosa with V'brakes 
and a short/high stem.

Obviously you'll need a face-plater type stem in 31.8mm size.  I used an 
Analog 30mm on my Appaloosa. 

Including a bunch of pics of them on my bike with both teal and rust 
colored wrap and off.

*PHOTOS HERE: *

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires (mostly 700c)

[J Schwartz]

Looks like the Sim.Works tires are spoken for...will update this post if 
they remain available 

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 10:19:01 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Greetings, I have some tires for sale that may be interest...All prices 
> are for 2 tires, a pair... and do not include shipping from New York State
>
> No Tubeless goup in these tires and all the used tires are relatively 
> clean 
>
>  
>
>- Sim.Works- Super Yummy – 29x2.22
>   - Peanut Butter sidewalls
>  - *Very lightly used, almost new*
> - *$95.00*
>
> - Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
>   - Black sidewalls
>  - *New, Never Mounted*
> - 
>
> *$125 *
>  - Soma - Supple Vitesse - SL - 700x38
>   - Black sidewalls
>  - *New, Mounted on clean rims with tubes to test but then 
>  taken-off and unridden*
> - 
>
> *$60 *
>  - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
>   - Black sidewalls
>  - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread 
>  life remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread caused 
> by a 
>  sharp piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for 
> over a 
>  year and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 flat 
> on 
>  these tires before the slit...and never after*
> - 
>
> *$35 *
>  - Compass (Rene Herse) – Rat Trap Pass – Standard – 26x2.3
>   - Tan sidewalls
>  - *Moderately used, many more miles left *
> - 
>
> *$48 *
>  - Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line – 
>700x38
>   - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
>  - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like a 
>  cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my 
> Hillborne *
> - *$38*
>  - Rivendell – Jack Brown – Green compound “light” – 700x33.3
>   - Tan Sidewall
>  - *Used, had these on my SimpleOne for about a year, the 
>  “checkerboard” pattern is fading to slick but still visible… I’d 
> guess half 
>  life left?*
> - *$42*
>  
> Thank you
> JS
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Tires (mostly 700c)

[J Schwartz]

Greetings, I have some tires for sale that may be interest...All prices are 
for 2 tires, a pair... and do not include shipping from New York State

No Tubeless goup in these tires and all the used tires are relatively clean 

 

   - Sim.Works- Super Yummy – 29x2.22
  - Peanut Butter sidewalls
 - *Very lightly used, almost new*
- *$95.00*

- Ultradynamico - Cava - JFF - 700x42.?? 
  - Black sidewalls
 - *New, Never Mounted*
- 

*$125 *
 - Soma - Supple Vitesse - SL - 700x38
  - Black sidewalls
 - *New, Mounted on clean rims with tubes to test but then 
 taken-off and unridden*
- 

*$60 *
 - Compass (Rene Herse) - Barlow Pass - Extralight - 700x38
  - Black sidewalls
 - *Well used with tubesprobably more than half the tread life 
 remaining ...however, there is a small slit in the tread caused by a 
sharp 
 piece of something.  I rode these on my Quickbeam in NYC for over a 
year 
 and the small slit was never an issue.  I only ever had 1 flat on 
these 
 tires before the slit...and never after*
- 

*$35 *
 - Compass (Rene Herse) – Rat Trap Pass – Standard – 26x2.3
  - Tan sidewalls
 - *Moderately used, many more miles left *
- 

*$48 *
 - Schwalbe – Little Big Ben, Wire – Raceguard Performance Line – 
   700x38
  - Brown tires (tread and sidewalls)
 - *Used, but probably over 80% life in them.  These rode like a 
 cloud actually. I was very impressed when I had these on my Hillborne *
- *$38*
 - Rivendell – Jack Brown – Green compound “light” – 700x33.3
  - Tan Sidewall
 - *Used, had these on my SimpleOne for about a year, the 
 “checkerboard” pattern is fading to slick but still visible… I’d guess 
half 
 life left?*
- *$42*
 
Thank you
JS


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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[J Schwartz]

Surprised to see all these 29x2.25 tires on the larger Apps.   Curious if 
the there are increased clearances on the newer frames.  I have a 2019 
silver 55 Appaloosa (newer version with the RBW seat tube decal...not the 
older J.A. in the star decal)Tim, I think that's the same as yours.   
I've been running 2.1 Thunderburts on Cliffhangers.   I just mounted up 
some Sim Works super yummy 29x2.22's, tubeless on the same Cliffhangers and 
they appear to be just barely rubbing the chainstays.  Like just enough so 
you can hear it.  
I haven't measured the actual width off that combo with a caliper yet but I 
wonder if it's more than 56.3mm.  The front seems fine ...and there are no 
probs at the rear brake bridge...just getting squeezed at the chain stay by 
1mm.  Any tricks to minimize that?

JS
On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 8:46:50 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has inspired 
> me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those of you 
> running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when riding 
> a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB Venture 
> tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire will fit on 
> Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
>> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
>> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
>> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>>
>> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating dusklight is 
>>> complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar that 
 is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?

 On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:

> Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than my 58 
> double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a better colour?
> We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the differences 
> are good ones.
>
> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:
>
>> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv was 
>> now doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double top tube 
>> size 
>> 58 is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube version.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Advent 1x9 with Microshift thumbie. I had it on hand before 
>>> the Advent X came out, which currently doesn’t have thumb shifter or 
>>> barcon 
>>> options. Nice, economical system. 
>>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:09:15 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Nice build! And the scenery isn't bad either. It looks like you 
 chose the Advent 1x10 drivetrain. Are you using the Microshift 
 thumb-shifter?
 Doug

 On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:56 PM bp  wrote:

> After snagging one of the orange 60cm frames (completed checkout 
> in 45 seconds!) the big brown truck made a delivery Monday. The build 
> is 
> complete and tonight was the test ride. All I can say is, *wow*. 
> It's replacing a 62cm earlier generation Appaloosa and while it 
> *feels* the same, it has it's own character. Maybe a better fit 
> for me? Maybe geometry refinements by that mad genius bike architect? 
> Either way, I'm thoroughly enjoying the ride. It ranks high on the 
> smile 
> meter, and that's enough for me.
>
> [image: IMG_1977.jpeg]
>
> [image: IMG_1975.jpeg]
> On Friday, June 25, 2021 at 9:59:43 AM UTC-5 adrian...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely drooling over this build…
>>
>> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 11:30:00 AM UTC-4 Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> Here is an Appaloosa with Maxxis Ikons and Cliffhangers 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> They are 2.2s, which which would be 55 or 56. Rims are 
>>> Cliffhangers, which 

[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug / Nitto Hi-Bar riser

[J Schwartz]

Bars are sold

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:49:42 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> I purchased these from B.L. when they were released a couple of months 
> ago.I had the purplish/gun-metal colored anodizing bead-blasted off and had 
> the bars powder coated in clear.
>
> They are heat treated aluminum made by Nitto
>
>- Handlebar clamp diameter : 25.4mm
>- Outer diameter : 22.2mm
>- Inner diameter：about 18mm
>- Width：730mm
>- Rise: 100mm
>
>
> HERE's <https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-hi-bar-steel-gray.html> the Blue 
> Lug link for the item
>
> And here's what they look like after powder coating 
>
> I paid $87 plus shipping from Japan 
> Looking for $60 net to me plus shipping from New York State
>
> thanks
> J.S.
>
> [image: IMG_1155.jpg.jpeg]
>
> [image: IMG_1156.jpg.jpeg]
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar/Stem pouch for Wine

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for all these suggestions , Outer Shell and Randi Jo specifically 
look up to the task
Also , from searching the iBob group... the King Iris Cage does a good job 
of holding a 750 securely and I can attest to this after riding 50 miles 
with a wine bottle in mine this week.  It is snug enough to mar up the 
label but it's super solid.

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 7:45:56 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Jason -- The Outer Shell 
>  stem caddy 
> easily fits a 750. Their product listing even shows a wine bottle. Image 
> below of my bag plus wine. 
>
> I haven't used them but I think these bags would also work: 
> Randi Jo Bartender Plus 
> 
> Road Runner Auto Pilot  
> 
>
> Any of the stem bags that list they can carry a Nalgene should also fit a 
> wine bottle. All three linked here are made in the USA. 
>
> [image: IMG_5296.jpg]
> On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 10:26:54 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> If you could use your top tube:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Repurposed-Bicycle-Handmade-Hide-Drink/dp/B015JMQIFO/
>> Otherwise you might strap on one of these:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/TOURBON-Canvas-Leather-Bicycle-Carrier/dp/B07JVQW85W/
>>
>>

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[RBW] Handlebar/Stem pouch for Wine

[J Schwartz]

Does anyone know of a a sidekick/snackbar/feedbag type pouch that mounts to 
to the handlebar along the stem that would specifically be deep enough, 
wide enough and strong enough to carry a typical 750ml bottle of wine 
securely ?  (or any other method for carrying bottles?). I'm done throwing 
bottles in my basket bag or saddle baglooking for a holder that works.
It's fine for the neck of the bottle to poke out the top... but in order 
for it to not feel squirrelly, it needs to be pretty snug from the shoulder 
down.
thank you

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[J Schwartz]

I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is that a 
56 or 53?
JS

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Kushan,
>
> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on your 
> bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works great 
> (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). I've got 
> an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
> interested. Cheers,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>
>
> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>
> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>
>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short for 
>> 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, HPX4 is 
>> the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on larger 
>> frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. It's a 
>> bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from Will 
>>> that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took it for 
>>> a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has exceeded 
>>> expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and climbs 
>>> well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
>>> speed, heart rate, and strava. 
>>>
>>> Here are some pictures 
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
 inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
 of 
 you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
 riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
 Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire will 
 fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 

 On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:

> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>
> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating dusklight 
>> is complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar 
>>> that is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than my 
 58 double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a better 
 colour?
 We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the differences 
 are good ones.

 On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:

> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv was 
> now doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double top tube 
> size 
> 58 is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube version.
>
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> It’s the Advent 1x9 with Microshift thumbie. I had it on hand 
>> before the Advent X came out, which currently doesn’t have thumb 
>> shifter or 
>> barcon options. Nice, economical system. 
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:09:15 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Nice build! And the scenery isn't bad either. It looks like you 
>>> chose the Advent 1x10 drivetrain. Are you using the Microshift 
>>> thumb-shifter?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:56 PM bp  wrote:
>>>
 After snagging one of the orange 60cm frames (completed 
 checkout in 45 seconds!) the big brown truck made a delivery 
 Monday. The 
 build is complete and tonight was the test ride. All I can say is, 
 *wow*. 

[RBW] Re: which Tange headset is the one to get?

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for the input 
I think I'll go with a black Tange Levin CDS
[image: Tange-Seiki-Levin-CDS-Threaded-Headset-bens-large-448-101.jpg 
copy.jpg]
Curious what is the cost discrepancy and differences in the product about 
between the Tange Levin and the Tange Levin CDS?
Is it just the polishing on the cro-mo of the Tange Levin.  (that's the one 
with the engraving on it)
The cost is essentially double between the two .

On Thursday, April 22, 2021 at 8:23:28 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> I'll go a bit on a tangent to that thought and say that I rather like 
> headsets that go unnoticed because they just work. For me that is the 
> original 1" threaded, silver, alloy Ultegra cartridge bearing unit on my 
> 2002 orange Rambouillet. I haven't held back on the surfaces of the bike's 
> use and have ridden through rainstorms and snow and have yet to discern a 
> time to start considering a replacement, although it is starting to look 
> like I should. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 10:21:00 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> I rather like steel headsets myself and on one bike have a 1" Tange Levin 
>> CDS headset. It comes in silver or black. It tends to go unnoticed because 
>> it "just works" and does it well. 
>>
>>
>> https://m.tangeseiki.com/jm/products/headset/standard/standard-threaded/standard-threaded-1/levin-cds.html
>> On Wednesday, April 21, 2021 at 9:44:31 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Question for the group:
>>> I'm replacing 12 year old headset on my S.Hit has totally given up 
>>> the ghost.
>>> There are a lot of Tange 1" models ...which is the best performing 
>>> ...I'm OK with ball bearings.
>>> Also, I'd like to get a black one but not totally necessary 
>>> thank you
>>>
>>

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[RBW] which Tange headset is the one to get?

[J Schwartz]

Question for the group:
I'm replacing 12 year old headset on my S.Hit has totally given up the 
ghost.
There are a lot of Tange 1" models ...which is the best performing ...I'm 
OK with ball bearings.
Also, I'd like to get a black one but not totally necessary 
thank you

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[RBW] Billie Bar - stem length & wtb

[J Schwartz]

Greetings
I'm looking to try a Billie Bar on my App and unsure on stem length. I 
think I'm leaning towards a slightly more aero position and would like to 
have the grip/brake area not too far back.  I'd like to set them up so that 
position is comfortable and upright but not an issue for steering or knee 
hitting.  The issue is, I'm not all that long and general ride shorter 
stems .
* 9cm for Noodles on my S.H.
* 8cm for flat waive-like bars on my App currently 

I don't think the "3rd" position in the rounded forward part of the bar is 
something I would use all that often but definitely the area in front of 
the levers appeals to me as a primary riding position that sort-of mimics 
riding on the hoods of a drop bar.

Does anyone have suggestions on how long of a stem works best with these 
bars?   My gut is saying 11cm but I'm concerned about purchasing such a 
long stem and it feel way too out there.  It's a 55cm App with a roughly 
60cm effective top tube length 

Also if anyone has a Bille Bar they would like to move on, please let me 
know
Thank you
JS

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[RBW] Re: Blue Lug bars arrived today

[J Schwartz]

Hi Ant
Are these the 720mm version?
I'm considering the same bars for my SimpleOne
Any further thoughts on them since you last posted?
Blue Lug doesn't actually list how much rise they havecan you confirm?
thanks
JS

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 10:40:23 PM UTC-5 richard...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bars look great! Looks like simworks getaround with more rise 慄‍♂️.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqs. How do I know what year mine is?

[J Schwartz]

I could be wrong about this, but does anyone seem to remember reading one 
of GP's posts about them using Kasei tubing on those first grey/maroon (and 
grey/orange) Hunqs?

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 11:02:21 AM UTC-4 Charlie R wrote:

> I pre-ordered one of the original Hunqapillars.  From what I can recall, 
> the Hunquapillar was the first Taiwan built Rivendell bicycle after 
> Rivendell left Toyo Japan.  It might have even been a Toyo Taiwan shop.  I 
> don't believe any were made by Toyo Japan.   There was a long wait period 
> and when I finally received the bicycle, Keven told me it was made by 
> Waterford because the order from Taiwan was just taking to long.  I 
> remember checking the serial number and it fit with the Waterford scheme.  
> Subsequent batches were made in Taiwan at least for a while and might have 
> reverted back to Waterford when the batch orders stopped.  
>
> The bike was the gray maroon colors.  I have a picture somewhere which I 
> will try to find.  I will also try to find my original receipt.  A fellow 
> list member now owns the bike.
>
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 10:08:44 AM UTC-4 John M wrote:
>
>> [image: right dropout.jpg]
>>
>> This was from my Hunqapillar with serial number "M14008".  Which I had 
>> assumed meant the eighth frame produced in 2014 at Waterford.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 2:50:11 AM UTC-6 Ed Fausto wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joe,  would you know how to determine if the frame is made in Toyo or 
>>> Waterford?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 2:24:42 PM UTC+8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 That's correct, the first ones had orange and are very rare, then 
 kidney bean, then they went to the green frames. To my knowledge all are 
 Toyo or Waterford. 



 On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:04:29 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

> I wonder if my Hunqapillar might be a prototype, and that's what the 
> "p" designates?  
>
> On Flickr, there are several photos of the 54 cm prototype, painted 
> gray with orange head tube.  The photos clearly show the pump peg painted 
> gray, with white lining around it, which matches my bike.  The only other 
> gray/orange 54cm Hunq I'm aware of, has the pump peg the color of the 
> head 
> tube (ie, orange), as does every Hunqapillar, in any color, in a random 
> sample from my collection of Hunq photos.  The prototype has an orange 
> ring 
> at the bottom of the seat tube lug, while mine is a somewhat sloppy 
> white.  
>
> I have always assumed all of (very few) orange trim Hunq's came from 
> that first batch.  Maybe that is not the case.  
>
> On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 12:42:33 AM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
>
>>
>> I would be curious, as well.  My Hunqapillar is from the very first 
>> batch and I'm not even sure what year that was.  2011?  Taiwan?  I've 
>> heard 
>> of Toyo and Wisconsin Hunqapillars but I'm assuming that first batch was 
>> from Taiwan.
>>
>> I have four different Hunqapillar brochures, one of which specifies 
>> the brand and number of the main tubes, but I have no idea if that 
>> brochure 
>> applies to mine or not.  
>>
>> The serial number format is RIV"P"XXX.  I'm not sure the "P" is 
>> actually a "P".  The paint is pretty heavy in that spot.  
>>
>> What color is your Hunqapillar?  Mine is gray and orange.  
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:01:27 PM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland wrote:
>>
>>> Hey y’all, 
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity... How do I know what year and location my 
>>> Hunq was manufactured in? Any particular details I should look at? Is 
>>> there 
>>> a Hunq manufacturing timeline somewhere? 
>>>
>>> Nikko in Oakland 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

[J Schwartz]

So according to the drawing , *if* there's a 2nd hole for greater tension , 
it will be in the Outer Cage Assembly (part 10) ...which would allow the 
cage tension spring (part 9) to be wound up more.

random photo from Park Tool website:
[image: der109.jpg]

I've heard, but not confirmed, that this derailleur doesn't have that 2nd 
hole.

I studied electrical engineering rather than mechanical, so naturally I 
don't really feel like taking the derailleur apart to find out.


Regarding Jim's suggestion on replacing the spring with one from a more 
off-road specific derailleur ...
I assume that Part 9 is the same spring to replace?
Should I look for an XT or XTR spring from that particular era , 9 speed, 
etc?

Thanks


On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 5:37:11 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> Just so we know what we're talking about, here is the exploded view.
> https://si.shimano.com/pdfs/ev/EV-RD-M580-2367.pdf
> There is a spring that runs the body (2), and a spring that tensions the 
> cage (9).
> As a Mechanical Engineer, if I had two of these, I'd take one apart just 
> on general principle.  :-)
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

[J Schwartz]

Jim
That's a great suggestion ...I didn't even know that was a possibility 
I'll look into the stronger springs 
Jason

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-4 Jim M. wrote:

> I would suggest replacing the spring with from an XT or XTR. You can get a 
> new spring for $5 or so.
>
> When I had too much slap and occasional thrown chain from an LX (which 
> worked fine otherwise), I switched to an XT  derailer and the problems 
> disappeared. I assume it's mostly the chain tension that helps.
>
> jim m
> walnut creek, ca
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 11:33:18 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>> I'm curious. Why do you leave the clutch de-activated? Are there 
>> downsides to using the clutch?
>> Thanks
>> -Matthew
>>
>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 4:36:27 PM UTC-7 KenP wrote:
>>
>>> I changed my derailler to one of the newer Shimano shadow; it has a 
>>> clutch switch, but I leave said switch off and it still provides more wrap 
>>> and tension than my older derrailler.   It's not rapid rise thouigh.  I'm 
>>> running 30 34 52 in front and 11-28 in back. 9 speed.
>>> KenP
>>> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 8:05:15 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>> I have a couple of older long cage Deore LX, 9-speed Rapid Rise rear 
>>>> derailleurs in great shape on 2 bikes.
>>>>
>>>> RD-M580 SGS
>>>>
>>>> Given the longer chainstays and hence longer chain on my Appa, I'm 
>>>> thinking it may be advisable to try to increase the spring tension on one 
>>>> of them.
>>>>
>>>> I take the bike off-road a lot and there's a lot of slap.  I could 
>>>> change up components but I want to try this first.
>>>>
>>>> It's my understanding the spring tension can be increased by placing 
>>>> the spring end into a different hole in the derailleur cage.
>>>>
>>>> However, from my limited internet research on this, it appears that 
>>>> this particular derailleur may only provide 1 hole and therefore no 
>>>> adjustability.
>>>>
>>>> There's not a lot of info on the Shimano site for this mech.
>>>>
>>>> So, I'm coming to the group before taking the derailleur apart.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if that particular derailleur allows spring tension to 
>>>> be increased?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> J Schwartz
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Increasing Spring Tension - Rear Derailleur

[J Schwartz]

Greetings
I have a couple of older long cage Deore LX, 9-speed Rapid Rise rear 
derailleurs in great shape on 2 bikes.

RD-M580 SGS

Given the longer chainstays and hence longer chain on my Appa, I'm thinking 
it may be advisable to try to increase the spring tension on one of them.

I take the bike off-road a lot and there's a lot of slap.  I could change 
up components but I want to try this first.

It's my understanding the spring tension can be increased by placing the 
spring end into a different hole in the derailleur cage.

However, from my limited internet research on this, it appears that this 
particular derailleur may only provide 1 hole and therefore no 
adjustability.

There's not a lot of info on the Shimano site for this mech.

So, I'm coming to the group before taking the derailleur apart.

Does anyone know if that particular derailleur allows spring tension to be 
increased?

Thank you
J Schwartz

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 31.8 Quill Stem with Some Rise

[J Schwartz]

there's a 60mm currently on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Fillet-FacePlater-Quill-Stem-Rivendell-31-8/324553760372?hash=item4b90e95e74:g:oaEAAOSwc~JgaN~2

On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 1:56:01 AM UTC-4 maxwel...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Hey ya'll I need a 1" quill stem with an upright angle that is 31.8. *
>
> *Something like the riv* *Nitto Fillet FacePlater - Quill - 31.8 (CR60-3)*
> *Or the Crust option.*
>
> *I prefer something in the 85mm or shorter.*
>
> *Thanks, *
>
> *-Max*
>

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[J Schwartz]

Jason, what is that crank you're using? 
I've seen it on a few bikes and have been curious what it is.
JS
On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 3:00:49 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Ol' Bomby the other day, picking up a Simworks rack and black Wald (note 
> the double basket up front) for the MB-1 project.  I've got a real sturdy 
> set of wheels on order for the Bombadil (Cliffhangers to SON/White Ind), 
> then it's "done", and my hope is to start wearing parts out, rather than 
> upgrade for no good reason haha   
>
> [image: PXL_20210401_020111383.jpg]
>
> On Friday, 1 February 2019 at 11:29:13 UTC-8 Adam Leibow wrote:
>
>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
>> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
>> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: happisack- min distance saddle loops to tire

[J Schwartz]

Forgot to say...
I also have seen people tilt the TopRack up a bit in the back to account 
for the rise in the tire ...which, at first, seems like the wrong thing to 
do for me since I'm a fan of things being nice and level..  But, the rack 
essentially disappears under the bag and it could help relieve the bunching 
under the saddle and fill the no-mans-land space.

On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 6:53:22 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> Thanks Patrick , the SQR looks like a smart solution for just such a 
> conundrum.
>
> Joe, the medium sack on your custom looks more inflated than the large 
> sack on my Appaloosa ...so probably the medium would work fine on my frame 
> but I'd need to continue using the Top Rack.
>
> I really prefer the seat post connection on the Medium vs the tombstone 
> connection on the Large.  If the proportions are right, it helps tuck the 
> back in that empty unused space.
>
> For instancethis looks right ...even though it needs the rack. (that's 
> a Happisack, btw)
> [image: 
> SackvilleInfo-05_00188601-9c68-416b-abe9-b0fbf76d259c_1024x1024.jpg]
>
>
> hmm...I may be putting my vintage saddleback Large up for sale soon
>
> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 3:26:35 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I don't have measurements, but I have used many large saddlebags without 
>> supports, and I know that you need a great deal of distance. The attached 
>> photo from Oh! So many years ago! shows my 2003 Riv Road 26" wheel custom 
>> (overall wheel diameter about 25") with a first gen medium Saddlesack. 
>> There was enough clearance, but just enough. OTOH, I think that the later 
>> Saddlesacks were shorter top-to-bottom, because more recently I used a 
>> medium Saddlesack on a clone of this bike, this time with fenders, and it 
>> cleared. Still, even with fenders the gap to saddle was considerably more 
>> than with 650B or 700C wheels, esp with fat tires.
>>
>> Note that the 2003 frame is no midget; it's a 58 c-c for a rider who 
>> rides a 60 c-c with level top tube.
>>
>> One device you might consider, if it works with the Saddlesack design (it 
>> is designed for the old Carradice Nelson and Camper-type of saddlebag) is 
>> the Carradice SQR that can be raised so that it holds the top of the bag 
>> higher than the saddle. This does makes you swing your leg higher to mount 
>> the bike. I used this on my "road bike for dirt" that has wheels 29 1/2" 
>> tall, with the purpose-designed SQR Slim saddlebag designed by Carradice to 
>> fit into shallow sapces. (That's* not* it in the picture.)
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> https://www.carradice.co.uk/products/accessories/sqr-system
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 12:35 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> I have the old Medium Saddlesack and about the same clearance as you on 
>>> two Rivs. It sits on the rackless Susie with a bit of space to the tire, 
>>> looks great, all good. EXCEPT..this doesn't work at all once I put stuff in 
>>> the bag and sit on the bike: the saddle drops a bit and the cargo pushes 
>>> down the bottom. So I'm afraid it's a no-go for you without some kind of 
>>> uplift device to hang the bag on. 
>>>
>>> Here's how it looks on my Top Rack-ed custom. Yep, I get some of the 
>>> squish and droop but it eventually fills out if I cram enough stuff in 
>>> there so I live with it. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 7:04:54 AM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been using a old SaddleSack Large from the first releases on a 
>>>> Nitto TopRack on my bikes for about 10 years...Mostly on a Sam
>>>>
>>>> In that time I've acquired different frames (Appa and Clem) that are 
>>>> larger with much larger tires. 
>>>>
>>>> Now I don't really have the vertical distance between the saddle loops 
>>>> and top of rear tire without smushing the bag too much.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's time to move the Saddlesack Large on to someone who has 
>>>> the frame for it. 
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a Saddlesack Medium would work for me or one of the newer 
>>>> happisacks...with a rack.  I'd prefer to lose the rack but I don't think I 
>>>> have the space.
>>>>
>>>> It's kind of a bummer bc I love how broken-in my current sack is..and 
>>>> the new ones look too perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I can't really tell from the Riv site the minimum space needed 
>>>> to run that bag without tire rub.
>>>> Does anyone know?
>

[RBW] WTB CX70 Front Derailleur

[J Schwartz]

These front mechs seem to be hard to come by these days like many other 
bike parts.
Curious if anyone has one they want to move on or know of any retailers 
that may have any.
I can get a new one (bottom pull with a 34.9 clamp) from universal cycles 
and I'll have to find a shim, but I'd rather find the 28.6 clamp version 
Thank you
JS

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Re: [RBW] For the Riv Sisters

[J Schwartz]

it's a rad photo with very nice lighting 
and that clem setup is perfect

On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 11:38:13 AM UTC-5 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

> It is a hand knitted sweater! All wool of course :)
>
> It's definitely been in action already! It's still "in progress" because 
> the drivetrain and tires are still just from the parts bin. Hoping to order 
> some new ones in Spring
>
> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 10:53:56 AM UTC-5 antc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> "In progress" looks pretty ready for action to me. Maybe it could use 
>> some more gear range? Also, is that a hand knitted sweater?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 6:52 PM Coco Menk  wrote:
>>
>>> In progress Clem build! 
>>>
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[RBW] SH getting repaired / repainted

[J Schwartz]

I'm having my 1st generation S.Hillborne (2008) repaired and repainted.
It needs a der hanger repair (*or potentially a new hanger*) and will use 
this opportunity to:
-fill in a downtube dent
-add 2 eyelets on the fork ends (originally only came with 2 on the 
underside)

I'm also considering having the chainstays dimpled more than they are and 
seeking input on that...

I know for sure that the 1st gen green Hillborne had less clearance back 
there than the 2nd gen orange frames.  I imagine there were other tweaks in 
that area over the years.

I can safely ride a fenderless 700x43 (*Gravel King's on Quill rims*) but 
it's close.  That's pretty much the max.
Clearance under fork crown and seat stay bridge aren't problematic.
Would love to gain a little extra room to get closer to what current SH can 
accommodate and it seems like if the frame is stripped and being repaired 
anyway, why not take the opportunity to do it.  
Any reasons I should avoid that?  Also I have no idea how much they should 
be indented and/or where along the chain stay, and I'm not really sure how 
to articulate this to the builder.  He is quite experienced so maybe he 
won't need my input anyway.  
Has anyone here done this?

He also uses Imron paint.  I'm thinking the old harvest gold riv used to 
use...(with cream headtube)  Thinking that would look good with the mix of 
silver and black components the bike has.

Thanks in advance for input
JS

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[RBW] Re: Cream headtube color

[J Schwartz]

Matching the cream to the decals makes a lot of sense.
Thank you
On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Oops.  My bad in assuming you were just touching up.  As Joe pointed out, 
> the creme has varied depending on vintage, builder, painter etc.  A coupe 
> of ideas if Riv can't answer to your satisfaction: 1) ask the painter to 
> match the creme on your specific decals, since that's what really matters.  
> Might be safe to go a slight shade darker since the headtube is such a big 
> area and will read as "white.".  2) Have Rick at D do the painting, since 
> he's so familiar with it.
>
> On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 5:56:37 AM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> thanks everyone
>> I should've been more clear in my OP.  I'm not looking to mix up paint 
>> for touch up.  I'm looking for an actual color code or name that closely 
>> matches the newer Taiwanese Riv frame head tubes.  Has anyone had a frame 
>> painted recently and got an acceptable cream?
>> I had a frame painted a couple years ago and the head tube came out 
>> whiter than cream.  Since I'm going to the trouble to have a frame repaired 
>> and repainted, I might as well try to get the head tube correct.   I could 
>> order a sample book from the paint supplier that the painter uses, but that 
>> seems a bit overkill.  I'm sure someone has done it recently.  It's looking 
>> like the repairer/repainter I will likely use, uses DuPont Imron, FYI
>> Thanks again
>> JS
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 10:02:48 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The trick is to match it to the model you're working on. OG Rivs are 
>>> VERY yellow, the current ones are near-white, and the Rambouillet I owned 
>>> appeared to be completely white. In other words, mix it 'til you like it. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 6:51:44 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've attempted to mix touch up colors for most of my bikes over the 
>>>> years, with varying-but-almost-always-less-than-perfect results.  The only 
>>>> one I ever got perfect was creme for filling in lug windows to match 
>>>> Rivendell headtubes.  It ended up being nothing more than white with a few 
>>>> drops of yellow mixed in.  Testor's enamels are easy to find at 
>>>> modeling/craft stores, are inexpensive and come in nice-sized small 
>>>> bottles, but latex might work too, so experimenting is cheap and easy.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Reach out to Riv! There was a mention of it on one of grant's Blahgs 
>>>>> maybe 2 years ago related to the Gus Boots wilsen if you want to go 
>>>>> searching...
>>>>>
>>>>> Collin in Sacramento
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 3:49:35 PM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>> Does anyone know the color or a close enough match to the official 
>>>>>> cream head tube color Riv uses?  Having my SH frame worked on and 
>>>>>> subsequently painted and trying to figure that piece out.
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> JS
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Cream headtube color

[J Schwartz]

thanks everyone
I should've been more clear in my OP.  I'm not looking to mix up paint for 
touch up.  I'm looking for an actual color code or name that closely 
matches the newer Taiwanese Riv frame head tubes.  Has anyone had a frame 
painted recently and got an acceptable cream?
I had a frame painted a couple years ago and the head tube came out whiter 
than cream.  Since I'm going to the trouble to have a frame repaired and 
repainted, I might as well try to get the head tube correct.   I could 
order a sample book from the paint supplier that the painter uses, but that 
seems a bit overkill.  I'm sure someone has done it recently.  It's looking 
like the repairer/repainter I will likely use, uses DuPont Imron, FYI
Thanks again
JS

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 10:02:48 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The trick is to match it to the model you're working on. OG Rivs are VERY 
> yellow, the current ones are near-white, and the Rambouillet I owned 
> appeared to be completely white. In other words, mix it 'til you like it. 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 6:51:44 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> I've attempted to mix touch up colors for most of my bikes over the 
>> years, with varying-but-almost-always-less-than-perfect results.  The only 
>> one I ever got perfect was creme for filling in lug windows to match 
>> Rivendell headtubes.  It ended up being nothing more than white with a few 
>> drops of yellow mixed in.  Testor's enamels are easy to find at 
>> modeling/craft stores, are inexpensive and come in nice-sized small 
>> bottles, but latex might work too, so experimenting is cheap and easy.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 7:07:17 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Reach out to Riv! There was a mention of it on one of grant's Blahgs 
>>> maybe 2 years ago related to the Gus Boots wilsen if you want to go 
>>> searching...
>>>
>>> Collin in Sacramento
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 24, 2021 at 3:49:35 PM UTC-8 J Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>> Does anyone know the color or a close enough match to the official 
>>>> cream head tube color Riv uses?  Having my SH frame worked on and 
>>>> subsequently painted and trying to figure that piece out.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> JS
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Cream headtube color

[J Schwartz]

Greetings
Does anyone know the color or a close enough match to the official cream 
head tube color Riv uses?  Having my SH frame worked on and subsequently 
painted and trying to figure that piece out.
Thank you
JS

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Re: [RBW] My Rambouillet Build

[J Schwartz]

I love this Rambouillet and it's decently wide gearing range.  Looks very 
comfy.

I'm in the process of building up a similar Canti-Romdowntube shifters 
and non-aero levers.
Curious if there's a trick to get non-aero housing to swoop up and down 
gracefully like that?  Is there a type or brand that is best suited for 
this?
Also, does anyone know the name or code for this Ram color?

Thanks


On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 9:36:52 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:

> I owned a 64cm sage green Ram recently... Do you have my old bike!? I 
> think our timelines are different. I bought mine from a used shop in 
> western NC in spring 2018 and sold it to a list member in summer 2019. I 
> liked almost everything about that bike but got interested in a BMC MCD and 
> let it go. In retrospect, I regret selling that bike and I am eagerly 
> anticipating the Roadinis coming back in stock this year. Here are two 
> photos of my sage green Ram. 
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Miller  wrote:
>
>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
>>
>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now 
>> that it is actually taking form.
>>
>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built 
>> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
>> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
>> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after 
>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 
>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a 
>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. 
>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually 
>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.
>>
>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a 
>> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
>> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was 
>> included with a Tange headset.
>>
>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
>> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is 
>> my first time executing it.
>>
>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction 
>> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was 
>> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 
>> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but 
>> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work 
>> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was 
>> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and 
>> 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly 
>> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about 
>> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for 
>> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be 
>> nice to hear from others about their experience!
>>
>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in 
>> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and 
>> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished 
>> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and 
>> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are 
>> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the 
>> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did 
>> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting 
>> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a 
>> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and 
>> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really 
>> nice, couldn’t be happier at this point.
>>
>> The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 650b 
>> wheels that I had planned to go on here ended up on my girlfriends 
>> Rambouillet!) and put on 42mm BSP’s.
>>
>> I know this is a long write-up, but it’s been a long road to this build. 
>> But it is finally nearing culmination. I have to say, what a time to be 
>> alive and into bikes, with so many different options and ways to approach a 
>> bike build. I feel pretty lucky and 

[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

[J Schwartz]

I did see that, thank you.
I think there are some differences between those two pedals...but I can 
make some assumptions based on the video about how the 001 should go back 
together...would just rather have a definitive how-to
JS

On Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:57:46 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:

> There used to be a video on the VP website, but it's not there anymore. 
> There is only a video for the Harrier rebuild. 
> https://www.vpcomponents.com/vp-harrier-dh5-rebuild-instructions/
> I didn't watch it, and you probably already found it, but if not, maybe 
> that's helpful.
>
> Paul
>
> On Friday, January 29, 2021 at 5:21:52 PM UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> Looking for some assistance re: VP-001 rebuilding
>> I've managed to find a VP-001 rebuild kit, but can't seem to find any 
>> info online about how to go about rebuilding them.
>> Does anyone have info regarding that?
>> I've managed to take apart the offending pedal (the right one) and 
>> successfully tapped out 2 bearings.
>> But I'm not sure about how get them back in...also I'm not sure if one is 
>> different from the other and if one needs to go in first, etc.
>> There are also collar bushings in the rebuild kit, however no bushings 
>> like that in my pedal body.
>> If you've done this successfully, I'd much appreciate to hear how it went
>> thanks
>> JS
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 5:29:34 AM UTC-4 spencer robinson wrote:
>>
>>> I did email Rivendell as I did not see the VP 001 rebuild kits listed 
>>> but the other Spencer looked for me and found a few kits in stock. The 
>>> rebuild is pretty straightforward and it just involved finding the right 
>>> socket and pick to get the bushings out. The bearings are a sealed design. 
>>> Easy to do and saved a set of pedals. I think the cost to rebuild them was 
>>> worthwhile.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 11:00:52 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have no idea if this helps or not, I take any pedal I buy apart 
>>>> upon install and liberally apply grease in the axle. Enough that it oozes 
>>>> out when it's back together. Knock on a Gorillas tree, everything has 
>>>> worked perfectly. 
>>>>
>>>>   Some brands have very little grease from the factory. 
>>>>
>>>>   Before assuming the bearings are gone, if you hear noises just take 
>>>> it apart and grease it very well. Try it out !  Grease is a great thing !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: VP 001 rebuild kit

[J Schwartz]

Hello
Looking for some assistance re: VP-001 rebuilding
I've managed to find a VP-001 rebuild kit, but can't seem to find any info 
online about how to go about rebuilding them.
Does anyone have info regarding that?
I've managed to take apart the offending pedal (the right one) and 
successfully tapped out 2 bearings.
But I'm not sure about how get them back in...also I'm not sure if one is 
different from the other and if one needs to go in first, etc.
There are also collar bushings in the rebuild kit, however no bushings like 
that in my pedal body.
If you've done this successfully, I'd much appreciate to hear how it went
thanks
JS


On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 5:29:34 AM UTC-4 spencer robinson wrote:

> I did email Rivendell as I did not see the VP 001 rebuild kits listed but 
> the other Spencer looked for me and found a few kits in stock. The rebuild 
> is pretty straightforward and it just involved finding the right socket and 
> pick to get the bushings out. The bearings are a sealed design. Easy to do 
> and saved a set of pedals. I think the cost to rebuild them was worthwhile.
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 11:00:52 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>>I have no idea if this helps or not, I take any pedal I buy apart upon 
>> install and liberally apply grease in the axle. Enough that it oozes out 
>> when it's back together. Knock on a Gorillas tree, everything has worked 
>> perfectly. 
>>
>>   Some brands have very little grease from the factory. 
>>
>>   Before assuming the bearings are gone, if you hear noises just take it 
>> apart and grease it very well. Try it out !  Grease is a great thing !
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Wool Not-Too-Tights Rivendell Sells

[J Schwartz]

Anyone know of a U.S. source for the wool leggings Riv sells on their site?
I suspect they may be the only importer for that brand?
They are currently out.  If anyone has a pair that are lightly worn and not 
shrunk, I may be interested (size M)
Thank you 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[J Schwartz]

Medium shirt is sold
thanks everyone 

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:27:53 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:

>
> Pit-to-Pit : 22"
> across shoulder along yoke: 16"
> sleeve: 24"
> I've had some interest but no sale yetthere are a couple people 
> potentially in line however
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[J Schwartz]

Pit-to-Pit : 22"
across shoulder along yoke: 16"
sleeve: 24"
I've had some interest but no sale yetthere are a couple people 
potentially in line however

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[J Schwartz]

Greetings All
Similarly I purchased a Medium and have washed and dried it *thrice* 
(without wearing it beyond trying it on)
It's still too big and not in my comfort zone.
If anyone would like an unworn but washed and dried Medium , I'd be happy 
to sell for 90% of what I paid including shipping 
So $30.
best
JS

On Thursday, January 7, 2021 at 3:56:21 PM UTC-5 Jay P wrote:

> I bought the size L shirt from Berkeleyan but it is, alas, after a 
> wash/dry cycle too small.  These do indeed shrink a lot.   It's now on the 
> edge between M and L but as I like things a little roomy I know that I'm 
> not going to wear this.   If you are interested in buying ($20) and picking 
> up at my home in Berkeley, please be in touch !
>
> Jay P.
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 11:14:41 AM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>
>> Shorts also claimed, but for anyone curious, they are exactly 18 inches 
>> across the top, laying flat. So 36 circumference, in size 36! The cuffs are 
>> 11.5 inches across, flat, and are 20.5 inches below the waist, along the 
>> sides.
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 5:28:27 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:
>>
>>> The shirt has been claimed AND taken off my front porch! The shorts are 
>>> still here... if I drop a lot of weight, they might fit. But not for a 
>>> while. I'm glad to take measurements of the actual waist circumference, if 
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Good pedals for both SPD clip-in and street shoe riding?

[J Schwartz]

Just noticed these browsing on Blue Lug last week
https://global.bluelug.com/mks-solution-pedal-siver.html
best
JS

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 4:36:21 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The Monocog gets ridden on bosque singletrack and sandy acequia roads, 
> where I prefer to be clipped in, but also gets used to drag the dog on his 
> 2-mile run, where flat pedals would be convenient.
>
> I've used the standard Shimano M324 and A530 several times, and don't 
> really like either -- they're neither fish nor fowl, and I want a pedal 
> that is *both* fish* and* fowl.
>
> Is there any such thing as a pedal that feels like a flat pedal when you 
> are wearing boat shoes or walking shoes, and that works well with cleats 
> when in your Shimano SPD shoes? 
>
> I would not be surprised if the answer is a resounding and echoing "OF 
> COURSE NOT!!". Perhaps the solution is one of the remade beartrap pedals 
> with XL MKS clips and long straps, but the question is worth asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [RBW] FS - Cafam Cantis, one Bike's Worth

[J Schwartz]

Patrick 
I'm pretty sure you had the Mk I version of those brakes ..not the Mk II 
Mike was selling
not sure how they are/were different. 
And weird that that's something I remember about your old green SH. 
Probably because it's the same generation as mine.
Jason

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 6:57:04 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Again, Mike, no worries, thanks for the reply, and good on yer for the 
> sale. 
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:37 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Sorry Patrick.  The brakes are claimed, I went out for a ride in the nice 
>> weather and just saw this. 
>>
>> As for the brakes, they were pretty powerful on Bob Jackson #2. No 
>> squeal, but I only rode it with the original wheelset and the brake shoes 
>> and rims were broken in by the previous owner.  Very positive braking 
>> force, modulated the pressure when squeezing the brake levers (Campy Chorus 
>> brifters). The springs are quite strong, but they appear to be infinitely 
>> adjustable. The set-up looks similar to Paul canti brakes.  
>>
>> I'm running Dia Compe 980s (new version from Riv) with stock pads and the 
>> brakes work great on the renewed BJ#2 (wheelset I used on the short-lived 
>> Atlantis) and no shuddering.  Not as powerful as the Cafam brakes, but 
>> still very good. Using the same brake and wheelset on the Atlantis, it 
>> shuddered even with moderate braking which was pretty annoying. The cable 
>> run on BJ#2 is a bit different, but a whole different bike it would be 
>> difficult to pinpoint why Atlantis shuddered on braking and BJ#2 does not. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA  spoke...@gmail.com  
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, can't take this offlist, which I meant it to be. Mike, I have 
>>> bought many things from you and v-v, but don't currently have your email 
>>> address. Can you send?
>>>
>>> Moving on to point: Mike: I think those IRDs may be the wonderful brakes 
>>> Riv staff installed on the shop floor Sam Hill I bought back in 
>>> whateverthehellitwas; first edition Sam. Those were the best brakes of all, 
>>> comparing Vs, discs, dual and single pivots, centerpulls, stirrups, 
>>> Altenbergers, stirrup/bowden hybrids, coasters, drums; all sorts and all 
>>> makes and models. 
>>>
>>> I am still hoping to get my Tektro CR 520s to stop squealing in front, 
>>> but scuttlebutt says that these have sloppy pivots and so, if within a 
>>> month or so, after buying some lacquer thinner to clean rim, and going back 
>>> to OEM Tektro pads, don't fix problem, I may be interested if these haven't 
>>> sold by then. Just sayin'. 
>>>
>>> Can you tell me whether these are likely to work well, no squeal or 
>>> shudder, with long head and steerer tubes?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Question, general, for full list, not IRD related: with some posts in 
>>> gmail I can dig out the sender's personal email address by creating draft 
>>> and clicking on the rbw address, which makes the sender's address show up; 
>>> with others, Mikes here included, I can't. Does anyone know why this is so?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:29 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, found these too I meant to post for the offering:  

 Cafam Brakes, $100 shipped.  All bits - mounting bolts, brakes, kool 
 stop pads, straddle cables, anchors on one arm, and the canti post 
 sleeves. 

 IRD Cantilever Brake Cafam II | Interloc Racing 
 
   

 Mike SLO CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[J Schwartz]

So great to see this bike in Greece!
I love Volos and the tsipouradika there.  I've also spent an incredible 
long week overlooking the city from nearby Makrinitsa.
I have family in Thessaloniki and I've been half planning / half dreaming 
about a bike tour somewhere in the country at some point when I can get 
there next.
I''ve heard bike tourists can have problems with all the shepherd dogs 
Thank you for posting 
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 12:37:54 PM UTC-5 psc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here's my 67 Homer on an urban ramble today in Volos, Greece.  Did some 
> poking around in an older Turkish neighborhood, admiring the craftsmanship 
> of many of the old entry doors and architectural details. 
>
>  [image: IMG_4354.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_4355.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_4353.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Sim Works Flat 65's on Joe App?

[J Schwartz]

Curious if anyone has run this combo and if they are happy 
Does anyone have photos if so?
thank you
JS

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[RBW] Re: new Google Groups question

[J Schwartz]

Does anyone know how to get this group to play nice (nicer) with IOS?

On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 2:45:31 PM UTC-5 Nathan Mattia wrote:

> Where do you find the Sticky Messages that used to appear at the top of 
> the board, such as the Rivendell Timeline and the Riv Reader links?
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:02:40 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm not volunteering for this because I don't have the time or patience 
>> or skills...but I belong to another forum where people geek out about 
>> something that most people don't care about (putters...you know...for 
>> golf?).  It runs on forum called Simple Machines (
>> https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php) and it's very easy 
>> to find your way around, you can have categories for posts, registered 
>> members, you can assign people as Moderators...etc...
>>
>> Downsides...
>> I'm guessing you can't transfer over old threads from Groups
>> Posting pictures does require a small amount of HTML knowhow 
>> It's way easier to just participate on Facebook (this other community is 
>> losing participants to Facebook...there are people like me who like to sit 
>> with a coffee, read posts, write thoughtful responses, etc... who love the 
>> Simple Machines format, and there are people who want to post a picture of 
>> a new putter instantly and get a bunch of "likes"they're more into 
>> Facebook).
>>
>> I dunno...just a thought...
>>
>> Ben "Definitely Not Volunteering for This" Mihovk 
>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:44:14 AM UTC-6 eddietheflay wrote:
>>
>>> why doesn't it show messages with last posting at the top so you don't 
>>> have to scroll down to find the last in?
>>> why are not the new messages in a bolder font so you can easily tell the 
>>> old from the new?
>>> i only view on my pc desktop.
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 11:06:21 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>>>
 I think I am done dealing with this new format. It's too difficult and 
 annoying for me to read. Later, folks!

 Eamon

 On Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 3:05:03 PM UTC-8 Eamon Nordquist 
 wrote:

> Same here. It’s unusable on my iPhone.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle 
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Switch back to classic view has disappeared from my settings. Looks 
>> like it's history.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 11 November 2020 at 12:21:19 pm UTC+11 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still using classic. On Android on desktop mode and then in 
>>> settings you can switch back to Classic and then reload mobile view and 
>>> it 
>>> gives you Classic view in mobile.
>>>
>>> On the PC just go into settings and switch select switch to Classic.
>>>
>>> A Google search on switching back to Classic view should list the 
>>> instructions also.
>>>
>>> IanA
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Chocomoose

[J Schwartz]

Greetings , looking for a Nitto Chocomoose (not norm) to buy.
Used in decent shape is fine
If anyone is sitting on one , let me know
Thanks 
JS

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Soma Supple Vitesse SL Tires @ Somafab On Sale for $30ea?!

[J Schwartz]

Thanks
So do you find the 38's true to measurement on those HED rims?

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 12:29:34 PM UTC-5 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Oh yeah, sorry I didn't mention that, they are non-TC. I suspect maybe 
> that's why they're blowing 'em out, to make room for newer TC versions? I 
> have zero knowledge/insider-poop on that, it's just the only thing that 
> makes sense to me re: this sale.
>
> Might also be worth mentioning that IME these tires are what I'd call 
> slightly undersized, meaning I generally don't get the labeled width until 
> they're on wider modern rims, like 23-25mm outer width. HED 
> Belgium/Ardennes C2/+, H+Sons Archetype mostly for me.
>
> The all-black can work fine depending on the rest of the bike, and I like 
> not having to worry about tan sidewalls getting funky. They are not the 
> tire for you if you're looking for that understated tiny-label look. They 
> ride real nice.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> [image: 50095493146_d38352ece9_c.jpg][image: 50135056208_3f1816cf62_c.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 12:12:58 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> Also , I don't think these are Tubeless compatible 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 12:03:02 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul, 
>>> Just picked up some black sidewall 700x38's for the Canti-Rom I'm slowly 
>>> building 
>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:50:29 AM UTC-5 Sam Kling wrote:
>>>
>>>> The 23mm EX's are only $15 each, if anyone around here runs 23s.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is a SMOKING hot deal. I need puncture protection riding on city 
>>>>> streets most of the time, but if they had black/tan in 700x42, I'd be 
>>>>> tempted to get a pair just to try them out. I do use the Shikoro, which 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> me are basically a heavy-armored SV. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the heads up, though!
>>>>> Ben
>>>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:14:40 PM UTC-6 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am completely overloaded on tires, but figured y'all might want to 
>>>>>> know that Soma looks to be blowing out SV Superlight tires at the 
>>>>>> low-low 
>>>>>> price of only $29.99ea. That's ridiculously cheap for such a nice tire 
>>>>>> IMHO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only 28/33 are available in black/tan, most all other sizes in stock 
>>>>>> in blk/blk. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've got no financial/etc connection other than having a metric ton 
>>>>>> of SV tires in-house, bought at retail. I'm a super-fan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems curious to me, though, why blow out expensive tires when there 
>>>>>> seems to be a tire shortage, esp at the dealer level? Could they be that 
>>>>>> over-loaded? New versions on the way/in-house so they want to clear out 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> old stock? [Note I have absolutely zero knowledge about that, just 
>>>>>> trying 
>>>>>> to rationalize in my own brain why they're blowing these out, and priced 
>>>>>> so 
>>>>>> cheaply, in the midst of rubber shortages].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I might have missed a blog post from them or whatevs, but I'm left 
>>>>>> with a whole of "Huh?" in my cranium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul "Huh?" Brodek
>>>>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Soma Supple Vitesse SL Tires @ Somafab On Sale for $30ea?!

[J Schwartz]

Also , I don't think these are Tubeless compatible 

On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 12:03:02 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:

> Thanks Paul, 
> Just picked up some black sidewall 700x38's for the Canti-Rom I'm slowly 
> building 
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:50:29 AM UTC-5 Sam Kling wrote:
>
>> The 23mm EX's are only $15 each, if anyone around here runs 23s.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is a SMOKING hot deal. I need puncture protection riding on city 
>>> streets most of the time, but if they had black/tan in 700x42, I'd be 
>>> tempted to get a pair just to try them out. I do use the Shikoro, which to 
>>> me are basically a heavy-armored SV. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up, though!
>>> Ben
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:14:40 PM UTC-6 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am completely overloaded on tires, but figured y'all might want to 
>>>> know that Soma looks to be blowing out SV Superlight tires at the low-low 
>>>> price of only $29.99ea. That's ridiculously cheap for such a nice tire 
>>>> IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Only 28/33 are available in black/tan, most all other sizes in stock in 
>>>> blk/blk. 
>>>>
>>>> I've got no financial/etc connection other than having a metric ton of 
>>>> SV tires in-house, bought at retail. I'm a super-fan.
>>>>
>>>> Seems curious to me, though, why blow out expensive tires when there 
>>>> seems to be a tire shortage, esp at the dealer level? Could they be that 
>>>> over-loaded? New versions on the way/in-house so they want to clear out 
>>>> the 
>>>> old stock? [Note I have absolutely zero knowledge about that, just trying 
>>>> to rationalize in my own brain why they're blowing these out, and priced 
>>>> so 
>>>> cheaply, in the midst of rubber shortages].
>>>>
>>>> I might have missed a blog post from them or whatevs, but I'm left with 
>>>> a whole of "Huh?" in my cranium.
>>>>
>>>> Paul "Huh?" Brodek
>>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Soma Supple Vitesse SL Tires @ Somafab On Sale for $30ea?!

[J Schwartz]

Thanks Paul, 
Just picked up some black sidewall 700x38's for the Canti-Rom I'm slowly 
building 
On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 11:50:29 AM UTC-5 Sam Kling wrote:

> The 23mm EX's are only $15 each, if anyone around here runs 23s.
>
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That is a SMOKING hot deal. I need puncture protection riding on city 
>> streets most of the time, but if they had black/tan in 700x42, I'd be 
>> tempted to get a pair just to try them out. I do use the Shikoro, which to 
>> me are basically a heavy-armored SV. 
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up, though!
>> Ben
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 11:14:40 PM UTC-6 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>
>>> I am completely overloaded on tires, but figured y'all might want to 
>>> know that Soma looks to be blowing out SV Superlight tires at the low-low 
>>> price of only $29.99ea. That's ridiculously cheap for such a nice tire IMHO.
>>>
>>> Only 28/33 are available in black/tan, most all other sizes in stock in 
>>> blk/blk. 
>>>
>>> I've got no financial/etc connection other than having a metric ton of 
>>> SV tires in-house, bought at retail. I'm a super-fan.
>>>
>>> Seems curious to me, though, why blow out expensive tires when there 
>>> seems to be a tire shortage, esp at the dealer level? Could they be that 
>>> over-loaded? New versions on the way/in-house so they want to clear out the 
>>> old stock? [Note I have absolutely zero knowledge about that, just trying 
>>> to rationalize in my own brain why they're blowing these out, and priced so 
>>> cheaply, in the midst of rubber shortages].
>>>
>>> I might have missed a blog post from them or whatevs, but I'm left with 
>>> a whole of "Huh?" in my cranium.
>>>
>>> Paul "Huh?" Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Black cycling national champion Justin Williams

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for sharing this

On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 5:07:08 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I'd not heard about Justin Williams: 
> https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/53663002
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[RBW] Re: BRP

[J Schwartz]

Definitely agree.
Bravo Riv


On Thursday, October 1, 2020 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Instagram, the Blahg, and maybe an email update have Rivendell Bicycle 
> Works putting their money where their mouths are.  Their announcement makes 
> me more likely to spend more of my money at Rivendell Bicycle Works.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: Riv. Camping trip, NYC, seeking route advice

[J Schwartz]

Also, there's a nice state park near Kent CT..just over the border for New 
York ..called Macedonia State Park 
<https://portal.ct.gov/DEEP/State-Parks/Parks/Macedonia-Brook-State-Park>...with
 
campsites 




On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 6:00:50 PM UTC-4, J Schwartz wrote:
>
> I was going to suggest something similar as Bob.
> Take the Metro North all the way to Wassaic and get off there.  You could 
> do a nice loop in the rolling farmland of eastern Dutchess County and go 
> into NW Connecticut and even Western Massachusetts and make it back to the 
> train station and home in 1 day.
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>>
>> How about Taconic State Park - Rudd Pond (just north of Millerton, NY), 
>> followed by Bash Bish Falls State Park further north? 
>>
>> (I've been to the former, but not the latter.) You can take the Metro 
>> North train to Wassaic, and a good portion of the route from Wassaic to 
>> Rudd Pond to Bash Bish is on the Harlem Valley Rail Trail.
>>
>> Bob E
>> Cranford, NJ
>>
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[RBW] Re: Riv. Camping trip, NYC, seeking route advice

[J Schwartz]

I was going to suggest something similar as Bob.
Take the Metro North all the way to Wassaic and get off there.  You could 
do a nice loop in the rolling farmland of eastern Dutchess County and go 
into NW Connecticut and even Western Massachusetts and make it back to the 
train station and home in 1 day.




On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 1:00:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
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> How about Taconic State Park - Rudd Pond (just north of Millerton, NY), 
> followed by Bash Bish Falls State Park further north? 
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> (I've been to the former, but not the latter.) You can take the Metro 
> North train to Wassaic, and a good portion of the route from Wassaic to 
> Rudd Pond to Bash Bish is on the Harlem Valley Rail Trail.
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
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Re: [RBW] max tire size - Canti Rom

[J Schwartz]

Thanks for that
those 40's look a smidge close 



On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 1:42:33 AM UTC-4, Andy Casler wrote:
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> I also have a Canti-Rom, and though I’ve haven’t gotten around to 
> installing big tires yet, here’s a older thread with some info.:
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> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/HYX-8AMupwQ/m/mCK0H6PA8ysJ
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> —Andy C.
> SF
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> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:58 PM J Schwartz  > wrote:
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>> Curious if anyone knows the max comfy tire size for a Canti-Rom. (700c)
>> The non-canti version takes 38's according to the original brochure.
>> thank you
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[RBW] max tire size - Canti Rom

[J Schwartz]

Curious if anyone knows the max comfy tire size for a Canti-Rom. (700c)
The non-canti version takes 38's according to the original brochure.
thank you

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