[RBW] Re: Recommendations on cycling to Rivendell and around San Francisco and the Bay Area

[Randy Franks]

There are a whole lot ways to do long and hilly rides, but for urban and 
(relatively) flat--but still experiencing a lot--here are my thoughts:

Spend a couple days in SF. Make sure to go over the Golden Gate on at least 
one of them. Starting at the Ferry Building, go north on Embarcadero, to 
Beach then onto Aquatic Park/Fort Mason/Crissy field pathways, over to the 
Golden Gate, crss the bridge, wind down to Fort Baker. Turn around here and 
head back, or go further north on Alexander into Sausalito, eat soem good 
food, catch a ferry back to the Embarcadero waterfront.

In the East Bay, make a loop around Lake Merritt, then follow bike 
boulevards over to Emeryville. I like going through downtown Oakland, out 
14th Ave and riding up Mandela Parkway, where the Cypress Structure was 
prior to collapsing in 1989 earthquake. Not a super great area, but it's 
short and quick. This puts you near Shellmound St in Emeryville so you can 
connect to the bike path of new east span of the Bay Bridge, or go north to 
Powell and connect to the SF Bay trail. option 1) Ride out to Yerba Buena, 
then return. or option 2) For more miles follow the SF Bay Trail all the 
way to Marina Bay neighborhood in Richmond. You can extend further to the 
west riding on industrial streets for ~2 miles (stay south of I-580) to the 
little commercial district there in Point Richmond which has food choices. 
Then go south to Miller/Knox Regional Shoreline and loop around 
Dornan/Brickyard Cove/Seacliff/Canal to head back. Of course you can do 1 
and 2 on the same ride, as well.

Happy pedaling, Ana!


-Randy





On Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 10:41:36 AM UTC-7, Ana Candela wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> I’ll be attending a workshop in Santa Cruz, visiting Riv HQ, and 
> rambling/touring around the Bay Area the first ten days or so in October. 
> I’d like to ask for recommendations to locals and everyone who has done 
> this before. 
>
> There are a couple threads from which I’ve already jotted down some very 
> good ideas and suggestions (walking/transit for one day: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/9HCur_vFbz4 
> and driving for a couple days: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/tcDE9hIkvaA). 
>
> Now, I’ll be bringing my bike along, and I’ll be CYCLING for about a week, 
> so any bike-specific recommendations (must-do, steer-away-from) on cycling, 
> transit, multimodal traveling, eating, weather, camping, lodging, events 
> that will enhance my stay will be greatly appreciated :) 
>
> Thank you! 
> -Ana “in Seattle, currently on the train to Portland” Candela

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[RBW] Re: New Hubbuhs?

[Randy Franks]

"Only slight bummer is that the front top water bottle mount is useless on 
the size small frame because of the lower top tube."

We have simple Minoura wire cages on our Small HHH. I can get a bottle in 
that front top spot, but only for storage. Can't remove or replace while in 
motion. Fortunately the lower cage is within reach for me.

-Randy


On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 1:33:38 PM UTC-7, Marc Pfister wrote:
>
> There's probably at least 11 other newborn Hubbuhs out there, here's mine:
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B1SaleiFUCw/
>
> Parts highlights:
>
> 60mm G-One Speeds tubeless on Velo Orange Voyagers
> DT rear hub, Shimano XT Dyno front
> 1x10 SLX, will probably switch to 1x12 NX once we figure out the gearing 
> range
> VO Granola bars
>
> Still needs a real shakedown ride but I think this is going to be an 
> excellent bike. Only slight bummer is that the front top water bottle mount 
> is useless on the size small frame because of the lower top tube.
>
> Marc Pfister
> CC NV
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: utility biking shop in SF east bay?

[Randy Franks]

Don't give up on the Clem L!

My Pleasanton-based mother had a step thru Trek hybird that she was excited 
to get (moderate price point, good local shop), but ended up riding only 
begrudgingly after a couple years. Even with tune-ups and different tires, 
it just didn't "roll very well" in her words.

Anyway, she has a green Clem L now (fenders, big Wald basket on the front) 
and cannot get enough of it. "This bike just...goes...when I pedal it" is 
how she puts it. Come to think of it, that's probably the best compliment 
you could ever come up with for a bike. 


-Randy

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[RBW] Re: Newbaums Be Gone

[Randy Franks]

I used a heat gun on a set of handle bars a couple weeks ago, then finished 
off with Goo Gone. The Neubaums tape was on about two years. I can imagine 
the tube pressing onto a rim is going to really bond that adhesive to the 
metal, though. Good luck!

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[RBW] Re: Shimano DYNO Hubs and Less Rotational Spin

[Randy Franks]

Conservation of energy, baby. The dyno is converting rotational energy (or 
angular kinetic energy) of the spinning wheel into electrical energy. And 
then your headlight is turning the electrical energy into light.

Hook up a battery in place of the headlight, and you've got a regenerative 
brake.

-Randy


On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 at 12:01:11 PM UTC-8, J Imler wrote:
>
> I have a couple Shimano DYNO wheels. I just noticed after several years of 
> riding that when you plug in the light the wheel's rotational spin velocity 
> decreases. Is that how it's designed? What's the cause? Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: Get those tandem deposits in

[Randy Franks]

Direct link 

.

Presale until 1/8/19, Tuesday.



On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 3:35:50 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Riv just sent an email that you can put a deposit in on a tandem frameset 
> now.  Jump on it!  
>
> BL in EC
>

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[RBW] Re: 3 day SF bike tour routes sought (Roadini)

[Randy Franks]

This is a figure-8 loop 
,
 
from the airport out to Half Moon Bay, down the coast to Pigeon Point (I've 
always wanted to stay out at the lighthouse like this, but never done it). 
Backtrack slightly north to start Day 2, turn inland and climb through the 
Santa Cruz Mountains and ride north on Skyline Blvd/Canada Road/Sawyer Camp 
Trail to Pacifica. Then Day 3 loops through San Francisco with a ride 
across the Golden Gate Bridge, and down the Embarcadero before heading back 
to the airport.

Mileages are shorter than your 60/day suggestion due to the elevation gain. 
There are some truly awesome climbs and the accompanying spectacular views 
in that part of the world. Quite a few state highway miles, but they are 
well-used cycling routes. My recollection riding all this solo, on group 
rides, charity events, and a couple (gasp) road races is the shoulders are 
almost all in good condition and quite wide.

You could also go south on Day 2 from the lighthouse to city of Santa Cruz, 
then back north into San Jose. Empire Grade would be the main route, there 
are others, but it'll be a very hilly day of riding regardless of route; 
stay off Highway 17.

Public transit options to extend your reach in this area are BART and 
Caltrain. If you end in the City, BART runs frequently and directly to the 
airport. Caltrain runs from Gilroy north through San Jose, past SFO and 
into SF, too. Involves a funky transfer onto BART to hit the airport. It's 
a traditional commuter rail service; I'm not familiar with their schedules 
and bike policies.

I wish Amtrak was better connected, more frequent, and reliable in the 
West, because riding SF to Carmel along the coast and catching the train 
north from Salinas would be get you a lot of beautiful miles without much 
sustained climbing.

Happy planning!


-Randy






On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 8:42:56 PM UTC-8, lambbo wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
>
> I'm packing up my Roadini later this month and throwing it on Alaska Air 
> to get out of NY and do a short tour from SF. 
>
> We're seeking advice on beautiful routes for a 3 day, 2 night credit-card 
> tour, no camping this time, that starts and ends in San Fransisco - this 
> seems like the group to ask.  Shared RideWithGPS routes, Strava routes, or 
> simple destination suggestions all appreciated!!
>
> We haven't trained for a tour, though we both semi-regularly do 60+ mile 
> day rides, and 3 days seems short, so I'm thinking 60 miles a day, more or 
> less.Hoping to just have fun, be safe, and see beautiful northern 
> California by bike!
>
> I've also never flown with a bike - any advice would be appreciated. 
>  Planning on putting my art-handling skills to use and packing it with foam 
> and hot-glue in a cardboard bike-box, and checking as bag. 
>
>
> Thanks!  
> Antone
>

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[RBW] Chapter 11 for parent company of Performance Bike

[Randy Franks]

When I lived in Berkeley, the PB on San Pablo employeed the nicest, fastest, 
fittest guy riding those parts. If I knew my Strava login credentials I could 
probably look up his name. Grizzly Peak, Centenial, Pinehurst, Wildcat Canyon, 
The 3 Bears, couldn’t ever get close, but it was sure fun trying!

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[RBW] Re: My back is pretty stoked on my Rivendell...

[Randy Franks]

You're in good company! Or, at least not the only mid-thirties guy here.

I started un-racering a couple years after our kids were born (on average 6 
years ago), felt bad about it the whole time, and then discovered Rivendell 
when I moved nearby in 2015. Put some albatross bars and practical gearing 
on a very old Bridgestone that'd been sitting ignored in my garage for many 
years, and haven't looked back!

The problem is real though. Keep us updated, preferably with photos :)

-Randy


On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 9:43:00 PM UTC-8, nick wrote:
>
> So I'm probably relatively young for this forum. Mid 30s.  I have a few 
> aggressive bikes and my Appaloosa.  Anyway, I woke up one morning a couple 
> weeks ago in a severe pain and could barely walk.  After a couple CT scans 
> we found out it was a bulging disc in my spine.  My snowboarding and 
> cycling injuries seem to be catching up with me.  Since then I've gotten 
> enough strength back to resume a normal routine with cycling but when I go 
> on my road or cross bikes I get a ton of sciatic pain if I push too hard.  
> The Appaloosa alleviates all of that.  I get that part of these bikes now.  
> I'm just stoked I liked the form and function of Rivendells to begin with.  
>
> I was sitting in the hospital looking at Roadeos.  I have a problem.  
> Might be cheaper to buy a new stem.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Randy Franks]

1. This weekend my wife and I are taking the inaugural spin on our 
newly-built HHH. Whatever's left in the build budget, plus a few extra 
bucks will go into this fundraiser. Beyond the raw awesomeness of the 
BTCC's mission, I am so excited to find a way to assuage the guilt of 
removing my name from the HHH 2.5 list after snagging the second small sage 
set-aside in Will's email a few weeks back. Whew. What a bonus.

2. For sizing, remember the sizes were originally M-L-XL, but that got 
confusing and shifted down a notch to the standard S-M-L (per Grant). We're 
riding a small and have PBHs 85 and 79 respectively.

3. Reading up on BTCC, it sounds like they are a forum for connecting 
willing captains and interested stokers. Do they own bikes directly? Maybe 
there's a way to get into the hands of a willing, but non-yet registered 
captain to make a white pin someplace where a blue pin is waiting for a 
match . Good luck with the logistics, 
Alex!

4. If it comes to fruition, who's going to maintain the Instagram page? New 
hashtag #RBWOBHHH?


-Randy

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Randy Franks]

There's a lot of good, reasonable advice here. I'll just add a couple 
points of reference and some resources you might peruse.

The Cub Scouts have a hard prohibition against pocket knives through 2nd 
grade. After that, kids can earn a Whittling Chip 
 allowing 
him/her to carry a pocket knife at Scout events. The Boy Scouts, which is 
6th graders and up, have a woodworking badge called the Totin' Chip 
 addressing 
knives again, as well as larger tools like hatchets and saws. They can also 
lose the privileges if they're irresponsible or unsafe, and have to re-earn 
the chips.

The skill checklist and lesson plans floating around are good references. 
It's common sense stuff, but I usually find something useful, like a way of 
explaining that resonates with kids (e.g. stick out your arm, turn in a 
circle, if you cannot touch anybody it's safe to open your knife).



-Randy



On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:36:45 PM UTC-8, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
> his own.  
>
> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
> out for him.
>
> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
> entire life.
>
> Any perspectives?
>
> Steve
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking recommendations for transporting multiple bikes in minivan

[Randy Franks]

Yeah, that's a good solution. I just visualized three bikes inside the van 
like U-locking several bikes together. That's a problem I encounter 
frequently, but never with a pedal wrench on hand :)

If I only had an Allen wrench for removing and reinstalling pedals on 
multiple bikes (especially if they're coming out more then once on the 
trip), I'd put up with a fair amount of re-positioning cranks before 
concluding it wasn't going to work. YMMV on that though.

I bring the pedal wrench along when we use the roof racks on our van. I can 
*just* manage to fit a Skybox between two fork-mounted roof racks, but it 
means by removing the inside pedal on both bikes (and accepting everything 
in the Skybox is inaccessible until the bikes come back off).


-Randy






On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 12:06:45 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 11/27/18 12:05 PM, Randy Franks wrote: 
> > This thread really deserves pictures of everybody's Bike Tetris 
> > achievements. 
> > 
> > As a fellow Odyssey owner, I think it'll be tight but that you can 
> > pull it off. We've managed similar (third bike was a 20" kids bike, 
> > though) and still used one seat in second row and one seat in the 
> > third row (for elementary-aged kids, not adults!). The hatch on our 
> > 2013 model is short, so bikes can't roll in with the front wheel still 
> > attached. 
> [snip] 
> > Lining up pedals can be tricky, probably flat or a 
> > 10'o'clock/4'o'clock position to they're not hitting the floor. 
>
>
> Why not just remove the pedals? 
>
> -- 
>
> Steve Palincsar 
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seeking recommendations for transporting multiple bikes in minivan

[Randy Franks]

This thread really deserves pictures of everybody's Bike Tetris 
achievements. 

As a fellow Odyssey owner, I think it'll be tight but that you can pull it 
off. We've managed similar (third bike was a 20" kids bike, though) and 
still used one seat in second row and one seat in the third row (for 
elementary-aged kids, not adults!). The hatch on our 2013 model is short, 
so bikes can't roll in with the front wheel still attached. 

I'd try putting the XO-3 in headfirst so the handle bars are behind the 
driver, then put the Sam in rear wheel first, and finally the Salsa 
headfirst again. I think you'll be able to maneuver the Salsa into place, 
might have to lay the second row seat down flat for loading. Hopefully the 
Salsa bars are far enough over to not poke your passenger in the second row 
seat. Drape an old sheet or blanket over the middle bike to stop 
metal-on-metal clicking, rattling, and rubbing while you drive.

Lining up pedals can be tricky, probably flat or a 10'o'clock/4'o'clock 
position to they're not hitting the floor.
If wide bars are a problem, loosen the headset bolt on top and rotate them 
90 degrees for transport.
I find the seat sometimes hits the top of hatch opening and have to lean 
the bike way over, but I could also loosen that bolt and drop it down or 
pop it out for transport.
You could prop up the front fork once in position with box or piece of 
luggage, to keep the fender from bearing weight.
Luggage and removed wheels ought to fit behind the area between hatch and 
second row seat.


Last thought, one bike rack is not that expensive and would make this a 
slam dunk. The aerodynamic impact on gas mileage is not much, just don't 
drive into low overhangs! Here in Portland there's enough demand for roof 
accessories to support a used rack dealer (ReRack). 



-Randy


On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:23:13 AM UTC-8, Lynne wrote:
>
> I'm hoping the Riv group brain-trust can help me out with ideas. We're 
> planning to take 3 bikes on a road trip in our Honda Odyssey - with 3 
> people and luggage for a week-long vacation. No bike rack and we want the 
> bikes inside the vehicle. Anyone have a suggestion for compactly, yet 
> safely, packing the 3 bikes into the minivan while leaving space for other 
> items, including at least one (better yet, both) second row seats? FWIW, 
> one is a Sam Hillborne, currently with fenders and wide Bosco handlebars, 
> one bike is an XO-3 with pretty wide handlebars, and the third is a Salsa 
> with drop bars. Thanks for any and all suggestions!
>

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[RBW] Tires for a new HHH build

[Randy Franks]

Has anybody ridden Schwalbe G-One tires? Either the all arounders or the “bite” 
model? I was thinking 2” Big Bens initially. But these something with a little 
tread might be nice. Any other real world recommendations and experience with 
tires would be great to read, too. 

https://www.schwalbetires.com/node/2366

A pretty reliable source recommended these for the HHH. Our frame arrives 
sometime later today (!!!).  

Our riding here in Portland, Ore, and environs will include fire roads and dirt 
country roads—some, not a lot—and the short stretches here in the city that 
remain unimproved for some reason.



-Randy

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[RBW] Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

[Randy Franks]

Great report and congratulations!

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