[RBW] Re: New Hilsen in the Wissahickon

[RoadieRyan]

Beautiful - love the orange and the high flange front hub especially

On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 5:36:09 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> After six months with the commuter SimpleOne as my only bike, I decided to 
> build up a geared bike for longer rides into the wooded areas outside of 
> Center City Philadelphia. I ended up picking up a wonderful Hilsen frame 
> from list member Charles (to whom I had previously sold my Roadeo). While 
> the old 62cm Rivs are perfect for me, I went with a 61 in case I ever want 
> my short torso to be comfortable on a drop setup. But for now it's sporting 
> sweptback bars. Build-wise, I didn't have much money to spend, so my goal 
> on this bike was to build it up for free. So every part is either (a) from 
> my existing parts bin; (b) acquired via trade; or (c) purchased with funds 
> from parts  sold here or on eBay. 
>
> The last two weeks, I've been taking it for some long rides up into the 
> Wissahickon Park on the outskirts of Philly. And it's great! The low bottom 
> bracket makes it s stable, but still zippy. Fantastic. There are still 
> a few things I need to dial in. I was having back pain when I first started 
> riding it. Couldn't figure out why, as the reach and bar height was 
> consistent with my SimpleOne. Then I halfway through the ride today 
> realized I was riding the AHH in shoes with much thinner soles. Lowered the 
> seat a bit and that seems to have helped. I'm still on the fence about the 
> albatross bars, Ergon grips, and friction shifting. But I'll live with them 
> for a while and see if they grow on me (and to be fair, the friction 
> shifting issues are likely due to my mediocre mechanical skills). 
>
> Anyways, it was a beautiful ride today. And my route out to the park 
> passed a major regatta on the Schuylkill River. Universities from up and 
> down the east coast were competing. So I took some water breaks to watch 
> the action. Hope all you east coasters also get some autumnal rides in this 
> weekend!
>
> Eric
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa and Thursday Night Football

[RoadieRyan]

Ryan's got to represent!

On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 1:56:44 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> This was not a Ryan only post but what is the probability that all 3 of us 
> are Riv loving Ryans.

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[RBW] Re: OT PSA: Ibex merino shirts at Sierra Trading Post

[RoadieRyan]

sweet deal for Merino T's thanks for the PSA order in

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 5:39:40 PM UTC-7, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Hello folks-
>
>
> Just saw that Sierra Trading Post has gotten in A BUNCH of merino wool 
> t-shirts from Ibex. I just ordered a few! The supplies are pretty limited, 
> so doubt they'd last more than a few days. And most of them are about $40, 
> though the 87% wool/13% nylon shirt is just $25!
>
>
> See what they have here:
> http://www.sierratradingpost.com/s~ibex-wool-shirt/?perPage=24
>
>
>
> And, this coupon will get you 20% off those prices and free shipping over 
> $50. Expires midnight Mountain time tonight: KDM8637W
>
>
> This one will get you 25% off plus free shipping over $100. Also expires 
> midnight tonight. KAW6880P
>
>
> Since Riv is out of wool t-shirts, this is a great way to pick up some 
> nice made in the USA merino tops!
>
>
> yours,
> Shawn
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa and Thursday Night Football

[RoadieRyan]

Ryan it's good you see Riv while watching Thurs NFL, cause what I see from 
the Jags is #1 and if they played the Browns on Thursday night it would be 
#1 vs #2, man I hate the "color rush" era.

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-7, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Just arrived home after an 11 hr workday before rushing out to catch a 
> sneak preview of Inferno. While checking email and google group lists I 
> turned on the game to see the butternut colored Jaguars getting dominated 
> by the blue colored Titans 0-27 at halftime. 
>
> Does the fact football triggers thoughts of Rivendell and bicycling in 
> general mean I have a problem 
> or that I am attaining self-actualization. 
>
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Becoming an "Unracer"

[RoadieRyan]

BC -First off gorgeous Sam.  Secondly I had a very similar epiphany in 
2008, every ride was training, I needed to go faster lose weight get a 
lighter bike etc. and finally realized that biking had become a chore, I 
dropped the HRM, bought a steel bike started noticing the world around me 
on my rides and a big goofy grin started appearing every time a threw a leg 
over the top tube.  Enjoy your Sam!

On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 3:28:15 PM UTC-7, Broccoli Cog wrote:
>
> Hello All, I am fairly new to the group and have been reading and taking 
> in some of the information shared here for the last few weeks.  My cycling 
> history has been heavily influenced by racing. My competitive experience 
> has been in road, mountain and cyclocross. I had gotten to the point where 
> riding a bike was no longer simply just riding a bike. I called it 
>  "training" and I always followed a structured plan and even had a cycling 
> coach.  In short riding became like work and took all the fun out of it. I 
> knew something had to change as I could no longer sustain my chosen path. 
> At the end of the day I am just a guy with a regular job and a family.  I 
> had been aware of Grant Peterson and the folks at Rivendell for several 
> years now. While my interest was piqued when I first learned of them I 
> never fully embraced the Rivendell style. As I began to build up my 
> conditioning for another season of racing I happened to read Grant's book 
> "Just Ride" the words on the pages leapt out at me getting to the heart of 
> everything that I had been thinking.  It was time for me to make a change. 
> While the book is full of many nuggets of wisdom there is one short 
> sentence in the book that really resonated with me. It read, *A bicycle 
> should make your life better, not take it over and boss you around*.  My 
> bike and my immersion in the racing subculture had taken over my life. So I 
> took a giant step back and reevaluated the time and effort I was putting 
> into the sport of cycling. I decided to sell off three bikes, several 
> wheelsets and many random parts that I felt I no longer needed. Frankly, 
> It's a little embarrassing to think about how much money I had spent on 
> bikes and cycling equipment through the years. The money raised from 
> selling off all of this stuff was used to purchase one awesome Sam 
> Hillborne. I love this bike as much as one can love a bicycle. It's 
> everything I need an nothing more. I have been riding it everywhere. On the 
> road, bike paths, single track, gravel, you name it. Sam does it all well 
> and it's comfortable as a bike can be. I thought I would post a picture of 
> it so you can all see how it turned out. I went with the complete bike that 
> Rivendell offers later adding a Marks Rack, SaddleSack X-small bag and a 
> Swift Industries Handlebar bag. I love it!
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Thank you and "Enjoy the Ride!"

[RoadieRyan]

Be careful not to blink Mike or you'll turn around and your daughter will 
be 13.  Of course every age has its great moments but those ages when they 
are tiny are pretty cool.

Ryan -whose "tiny girl" is 13

On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 12:43:55 PM UTC-7, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 8:31:16 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I expect that Patrick hasn't so much lost interest in cycling as in 
>> cycling lists, given what I've heard about the benefit that cycling, and in 
>> particular, Rivendellian/Grantian cycling has had to his life. I know 
>> another Patrick who ought to spend less time bothering cycling lists ...
>>
>
> I can sorta relate. I use to be a frequent contributor to this list and 
> certainly checked-in on it daily. I don't think it was time wasted at all 
> and am quite grateful for everything it showed me or encouraged me to see. 
> After my daughter was born, there just wasn't the time, or energy, to 
> follow this list as closely. My riding scaled back a bit. And in fact, I 
> even sold my Hilsen. I still cycle daily and have even branched out my 
> cycling by returning to mountain biking (I sold my Hilsen to buy a 
> Krampus). I peek in on the Riv website from time to time and enjoy it. My 
> LHT is set-up in a very Rivish manner with Noodles, Brooks, VP platform 
> pedals, Sugino cranks, etc. But I have some other bikes which are less 
> Rivish.  Some of you I still follow on Flickr. I continue to post on Flickr 
> but not quite as frequently. My daughter just turned 3. It's amazing how 
> the time flies. I'm stuck at work today but it's slowed down for the 
> moment. Wishing you all the best. My favorite part of this list has always 
> been and remains ride reports. Keep them coming.
>
> --mike 
>

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[RBW] Re: How was your (Bike) Labor Day?

[RoadieRyan]

Nice easy 15 miler along Alki beach in West Seattle

On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 1:26:47 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Anyone accomplish some projects or get a good ride in?
>
> I knocked out a couple satisfying but relatively minor projects on Sunday 
> and got a nice ride in this morning.  The XO-3 got a long-needed headset 
> replacement - the original cup and ball bearing unit was pitted and loose, 
> though after removal I'm pretty sure you could clean it up, replace the 
> bearings, slather with grease and be good for another 10 years.  But I had 
> a perfectly good VO sealed bearing unit that needed a home and my fork is 
> now secured and buttery smooth turning.  Then I continued the drivetrain 
> redux of the Bombadil with 3 new chainrings courtesy of David's Willow 
> chainring stash, based on his stock availability I settled on a 49-37-25 
> for an odd but evenly spaced triple... unfortunately the 25 proved to be a 
> hair to large for the inner postion on my chainstays w/ a 110mm BB spindle 
> so my old Sugino 24 got pressed back into duty.  After my ride this morning 
> I realize I need to re-visit my FD setup as I dumped the chain past my 
> large ring and couldn't get to the small ring but it does look nice and 
> after comparing the old vs new side by side I'm satisfied I got the full 
> lifetime out of the original rings.  Finally I kept fiddling with the 
> Saluki cockpit, going from a ~10cm to 6 or 7cm Nitto stem and continuing to 
> mess with the brake setup.  I may spend a bit more time with that tonight.
>
> Today's ride was a nice loop through Old Town Alexandria including Jones 
> Point and a back and forth accross the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, it was a 
> gorgeous morning in the upper 60's and I really enjoyed it.  The Bombadil 
> with it's tubless SBH's pumped up around 40psi feels alot like my much 
> svelt'er Bob Jackson frame. Between the tires and the fresh drivetrain the 
> thing glides along like a freshly greased bearing... I'm still not setting 
> (or seeking) any land speed records but it's pretty neat that my roughest 
> and tumbler-est bike which I ride singletrack on can also double as a 
> quickie/sportif bike with extremely little modification.
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake question...

[RoadieRyan]

I started out with Cani's (Avids) on my Handsome Devil but quickly grew 
frustrated and make the switch to V Brakes and they have worked great for 4 
years.  Mini Motos huh? nice tip -if the Cantis on my newly acquired 
vintage touring Schwinn Passage don't work out (Dia Compe 960s)  I may give 
the Mini Motos a try and I won't need new brake levers.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 11:40:16 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> This is why I no longer use cantilever brakes. V-brakes work and have 
> allowed me to stop futzing. I know the purists are taught to hate V-bakes 
> because they don't "look" the part, or you are lacking in mechanical skills 
> if you don't enjoy spending time with them.In the real world they work 
> better, are easier to set up, easier to maintain and easier to service 
> (especially on the road if need be). I recently set up a set of Shimano SLR 
> mid profile canti-s on a 1983 Schwinn Voyageur SP and while they work ok, I 
> was reminded that they are a good bit more finicky ( and the Shimano brakes 
> are pretty well designed and easy to set up as far a canti's go) and 
> require more time that V-Brakes. 
>
> I say go with the mini-motos' (if possible) and don't look back. You will 
> more than likely not have think about whether or not the brakes have been 
> "optimized" ever again..
>
> FWIW, I used a set of Shimano XT V- brakes (silver) when I built up the 
> Hunqapillar frame you provided me (I am keeping it BTW, figured out my fit 
> issue)and the brakes were set up at the time of the build and have needed 
> nothing since. More powerful that any canti brake I have ever used. 
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 2:00:24 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
>> Here is the source of my original confusion; extracted from the article 
>> linked by Alan:
>> "*Straddle cable and yoke position*
>> To get the most out of your canti brake, it's crucial to get the straddle 
>> cable carrier (yoke) installed in the right position based on the type of 
>> brakes you are running.  Simply put, you want to try to achieve a 90 degree 
>> angle between the pivot bolt/cable anchor/straddle cable.  The angle formed 
>> if you drew a line from the pivot bolt to the cable anchor on the arm and 
>> along the straddle cable should be around 90 degrees.  This gives you a 
>> good combination of modulation and power.  It's possible to alter this 
>> angle to get more power, giving up modulation.  A rough rule of thumb is 
>> low-profile brakes require a low straddle cable carrier position, wide 
>> profile brakes require a high straddle cable carrier position.  Going even 
>> lower on a low-profile brake will give you more power, but the modulation 
>> will be lower and the brake pads will need to be set closer to the rim.  
>> This position also will feel a little mushy at the lever.  Most lower 
>> profile canti brakes I see have the straddle carrier set too high.  This 
>> might feel good at the lever; solid feeling, you might say, but when you 
>> need to hit the brakes you won't have the power needed to stop."
>>
>> See the sentence that starts with "A rough rule of thumb..."
>>
>> So I checked my Neo-Retro yoke position; it wasn't too high, limited by 
>> the crown fork cable hanger, probably around 1 - 1.5" above the fender 
>> (recent photo: https://flic.kr/p/Huku4A). Lowered it to almost touching 
>> the fender, just 5 - 6mm away, and though the feeling increased slightly, 
>> the braking is still less powerful than the rear Touring brake.
>>
>> Next step is to remove the rack (hassle!) to install the Touring brakes 
>> and check if the MiniMoto fit or not.
>>
>> Stay tuned...
>>
>> René 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016, adam leibow  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://blackmountaincycles.blogspot.com/2013/03/get-most-out-of-your-canit-brake.html
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:49:20 PM UTC-7, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 I've had Paul Cantis on my Atlantis (and Hunqapillar) since I acquired 
 them. Paul Centerpulls on the Homer after using the original Silver 
 brakes, 
 and now will have Compass brazed Centerpulls on the custom. I've also read 
 everything I could find, including BQ's excellent volume on brakes to 
 understand how to adjust these brakes properly.

 The question is regarding the brakes on my Atlantis. On the front it 
 has the Paul Neo-Retro and on the rear the Paul Tourer. Per my education, 
 the Neo-Retro needs the cable yoke to be as high as possible and the 
 Tourer 
 as low as possible for optimal function.

 When braking, the rear Tourer brake which by design should be less 
 powerful, feels excellent, both in braking power and modulation. In fact, 
 I 
 can brake really well with it alone, and use it primarily to slow down 
 prior to turns.

 Braking with the front Neo-Retro feels as if it has very little power 
 and is very hard to stop the bike unless you press really hard. It

[RBW] Re: Finished Sam Hillborne build

[RoadieRyan]

Gorgeous build! Someday when I am all growed up I am gonna get me one of 
them Sam Hillbornes 

On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 6:00:42 PM UTC-7, Zach Duval wrote:
>
>
> 
>

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[RBW] Re: Whidbey S24O Ride Report

[RoadieRyan]

Great report, as a West Satellite I will have to file that one away.  Love 
the Grey and Kidney Bean scheme on the Hunqa always thought that was one of 
the classic riv color combos.

On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:45:42 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>
> This with pics at http://www.stonehog.com/:
>
> Not much action on the camping front this year, so I grabbed a chance to 
> do a quick overnight (S24O ) 
> from my place in Freeland, WA up to Fort Ebey.  It's about 30 miles one 
> way, and a great chance to try:
>
>1. Hunqapillar on singletrack
>2. New road exploring
>3. Hammock camping
>
> This also echoes the distance of a Lake Crescent trail 
>  I want to do 
> later this year.  That gig is mostly singletrack, but I would use the same 
> equipment.
>
> I got underway around 4:45pm on Monday.  I figured it would take 2-3 
> hours, so I would likely have light to set up camp.  John and I had explored 
> Fort Ebey's mtb trails  a 
> few days earlier, so I knew where the hike/bike campsites were.
>
> I packed light. There was a burn ban, so I didn't bother bringing a stove. 
> Just 2 water bottles, a toaster pastry for breakfast, and a can of salmon 
> for dinner. Easy. I wore the clothes on my back and brought along a pair of 
> wool long underwear for sleeping. No rain in the forecast. Other than that, 
> just my hammock, fly, sleeping bag and roll. Oh yeah - I strapped some 
> sandals on, in case the feet got sore, but that was just unused extra 
> weight. I think the whole thing weighed in under 10 pounds (not that it 
> matters).
>
> The way up was stunning and uneventful. Heading north, I passed South 
> Whidbey State Park, and Greenbank Farm. The stretch from Greenbank up to 
> Coupville had some great hills and views, and the Navy Growlers were out 
> practicing on the outlying field near Admirals Cove.  The long stretch 
> across Keystone to Fort Casey yielded a few seals and many sea birds, but I 
> saw not much traffic on a Monday night.
>
> I searched through Fort Casey for a back route, and thought I had it 
> following a gravel trail by the lighthouse, but it ended in a private road. 
> I left it to chance, and wasted a few minutes, but it was worth the views.  
> Hill road down to Ebey Beach is amazing - no shoulder, but equally no 
> cars.  After a short hop up to the bluff, and across an amazing open 
> farming area, it was a quick ride to the new pavement of Madrona Way past 
> the mussel farms in Penn Cove.
>
> At this point, I was starting to worry about sunlight - it had taken me 
> about 2 1/2 hrs to get this far. I hurried on into Fort Ebey State Park, 
> and set up the hammock. There was one other person in the hike/bike spot - 
> a Pacific Northwest Trail 
>  through hiker. 
> After a dinner of canned salmon on the bluff overlooking the Straight of 
> Juan de Fuca, and a great sunset, it was off to bed.
>
> The next morning was sunny, so I geared up and chatted with the hiker to 
> learn about his journey 
> . He was a 65 
> years old Granite Falls, WA resident, and 7 weeks into the trail that 
> started in Glacier National Park. After 8 bears (one grizzly at about 10 
> yds), a pack of wolves, and countless coyotes, he was just heading to the 
> ferry to Port Townsend to have a lunch reunion with his wife before 
> finishing the last 150 miles to Cape Alava.
> [image: stonehog-17.jpg] 
> Ready
>  
> for the trip home
>
> 
>
> After a nourishing breakfast at the same scenic overlook on the bluff and 
> a water bottle refill, I was off to ride the Kettles trail on the loaded 
> Hunq.
> [image: stonehog-18.jpg]MTB Riv Style
>
> 
>
>
> Needless to say, the Hunq made short work of the trail, and I found myself 
> heading back south and past the barley fields to Ebey Beach.
>
> [image: stonehog-24.jpg] 
> 
>
> I stopped at the old "Ferry Building" on the bluff to explore and take 
> some pics, then it was back down to Keystone, Greenbank, and finally back 
> to Freeland for some rest and a meal. 
>
> Route out and back are here:
>
> http://cyclemeter.com/51cfa6724f84c700/Cycle-20160822-1639
>
> http://cyclemeter.com/51cfa6724f84c700/Cycle-20160823-0934
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> Bike Blog 
> @stonehog
> stonehogboɥǝuoʇs
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Puget Sound Romulus

[RoadieRyan]

Dang! of course I am mere hours from leaving town (Seattle) that is an 
interesting looking bike...

On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 7:53:03 AM UTC-7, redsydude wrote:
>
> Dear Rivendell,
> I'm passing up a good deal on a nice looking Romulus because I have faith 
> that you will complete the 'not so Top Secret' Clem/Road bike project.  For 
> those with less patience:
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bik/5723399037.html
>

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[RBW] Re: A question for Soma San Marcos Owners (V2 in Tiburon blue)

[RoadieRyan]

Thank you all for your input!   I appreciate it.

On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 5:51:38 PM UTC-7, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> I am considering a San Marcos frame before they are all gone specifically 
> a 54cm frame for 650b wheels and I have a few questions for anyone who 
> might own a version running 650b wheels a version 2 in 57cm or smaller or a 
> version 1 San Marcos in 51cm or smaller:
>
>
>- what model and size of tires are you running?
>- If you run fenders what type and what size tires do you run with 
>your fenders -the data says the max tire size is 38c but I am wondering if 
>that is with or without tires?
>- what do you like/dislike about this frame?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
>

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[RBW] A question for Soma San Marcos Owners (V2 in Tiburon blue)

[RoadieRyan]

I am considering a San Marcos frame before they are all gone specifically a 
54cm frame for 650b wheels and I have a few questions for anyone who might 
own a version running 650b wheels a version 2 in 57cm or smaller or a 
version 1 San Marcos in 51cm or smaller:


   - what model and size of tires are you running?
   - If you run fenders what type and what size tires do you run with your 
   fenders -the data says the max tire size is 38c but I am wondering if that 
   is with or without tires?
   - what do you like/dislike about this frame?

Thanks

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[RoadieRyan]

You are in fact lucky sir! I missed the boat on the Bleriot and it haunts 
me to this day... ok maybe not haunt but it does bum me out and I hope that 
someday a 57 or 59 comes my way.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 4:20:34 AM UTC-7, islaysteve wrote:
>
> And, as someone recently asked on the facebook page for this group:  Is 
> there any love for the Bleriot?  This was the bike that resulted from a 
> collaboration between RBW and QBP, and was available both from Rivendell 
> and any QBP dealer from, I believe, 2006 to 2008.  Dealers could also offer 
> it as a complete, I'm not sure if RBW did.  It was brazed in Taiwan and 
> easily takes Pair-Motos and even wider tires. I refer you to cyclofiend's 
> excellent webpage on the Bleriot: 
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot/index.html.  
>
> I count myself very lucky to have acquired a Bleriot several years ago and 
> it may very well be the last bike I buy.  It fits me perfectly, rides 
> great, inspires confidence, and is also "lugged to the teeth."  I will be 
> interested to see the Roadini and to compare it with the Bleriot.  Cheers, 
> Steve
> (in heat-wave Maryland)
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[RoadieRyan]

Is it just me or does anyone else look at the name Roadini and think of 
Jawas shouting Utini ! 
?yeah probably just me.  Looking forward to see the design

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:34:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The new Riv email introduces a new Clem-ish road bike on the horizon. Cool!

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[RBW] Re: OT: Oregon Bound

[RoadieRyan]

Hi Michael,

I will let others speak to the cycling routes but I will make a couple 
suggestions for your Oregon Trip:


   - In Portland you should look up, use, Velo Cult  not 
   only are they a full service shop, more than capable of doing your assembly 
   work, but the are Steel oriented, server local craft beer, coffee and even 
   have live music occasionally - If I still lived in PDX I'm not sure I 
   would ever leave...
   - If you are touring the Willamette valley you might consider visiting 
   or even staying at the Hotel Oregon 
    its a quaint place, part of the 
   McMenamins' group of pubs and lodgings, and in addition to being a great 
   jumping off point for a Willamette valley tour- wineries etc. they have a 
   rooftop bar with a great view of the valley.  The drawback being they are 
   about 20 miles from the start of the Willamette Valley bikeway and I am not 
   sure what routes are available between the two.
   - As you probably know Oregon is famous for its Pinot's so be sure to 
   sample them at any wineries you may happen upon.


Enjoy, Oregon is beautiful especially in the summer, I might be a bit 
biased I as I did got to University in Corvallis.

Ryan 
On Monday, July 11, 2016 at 3:45:29 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

> We are planning an Oct. trip to the west coast.  The plan is to ship
> the tandem ahead to a reliable bike shop, then fly to Portland, visit
> the city for a few days, then take a leisurely ride down the Willamette
> Valley Bikeway to Eugene, and finish up by driving to El Cerrito to
> visit our son & his family.  We have never been to Oregon so welcome
> suggestions about places to stay, to see, to eat, to avoid, and routes
> to ride.
>
> I can certainly put the bike back together if I need to, but thought
> it would expedite & simplify things to ship it ahead rather than lug
> the two suitcases around and reassemble it in a hotel or on the
> street.
>
> Michael
>

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Re: [RBW] Portland

[RoadieRyan]

The STP (Seattle to Portland ride) used to end there before they re- routed 
it to downtown when the started working on the St Johns bridge back in 2003 
or so.  

Lovely setting.

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 7:09:48 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

> So appropriate that the area under the bridge is called "Cathedral Park."
>
> Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 11:04 PM, franklyn > 
> wrote:
>
> Love Portland. I was just there, but miss the Rivelo Party by a week. When 
> I was there and dropped by, it was closed 
> !
>  
> St John's Bridge 
> 
>  
> is so very nice--such a dramatic landmark 
> 
>  
> in its own ways, and the views from it 
> 
>  
> are pretty awesome!.
>
> Franklyn
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 10:05:23 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>>
>> Very nice. Awesome bridge. I'll have to find a way to come to Portland 
>> with a bike...
>>
>> On Monday, June 27, 2016, Eric Norris  wrote:
>>
>>> Some more photos from this weekend’s Portland adventure:
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHskCjfhEe 
>>>
>>> Riv content: The weekend started with the Rivelo anniversary party:
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHskCewK8H 
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyonly...@me.com
>>> www.campyonly.com
>>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day - Hunqapillar FINALLY!

[RoadieRyan]

Yeah for new bike day - what a sweet ride.  I too like the original Hunqa 
Grey and red combo but the cream is classic and looks great.  Chapeau

On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 6:42:50 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Picked up my Hunq from Gravel & Grind (helped me put together the build) 
> on Saturday and finally got around to riding it this morning. Here are some 
> pictures before my morning commute from DC into Arlington.
>
> This is a 48cm Hunqapillar, with mostly 10 speed XT parts except the SLX 
> rear derailleur, and White Industries crankset. Also Pauls canti's and 
> levers, Brooks Swift, and Nitto Seatpost.
>
> Of unusual to note, I fitted this out with a Jones loop bar. I had 
> Clockwork Bikes make me a custom 31.8 quill stem. It's bare steel right 
> now, but I'll probably nickel plate it somewhere down the road. Wheels are 
> Compass Rat Traps set up tubeless on Atlas rims. Using the Riv's silver hub 
> rear, and the Shutter precision hub front. Built up by Gravel & Grind.
>
> Got the Carradice bag from Gravel & Grind, fits all my work clothes, work 
> laptop, lunch, with room to spare. Strapped to my handlebar method - via 
> Ultraromance-style, and also seen on Mark Reimer's Atlantis. I really like 
> this set up, allows more cargo than a basket, and things don't fly around.
>
> Can't recommend the guys at Gravel & Grind enough. Very chill, very 
> flexible, and very rad.
>
> This bike rides soo awesome! I can really push it, but it's very 
> comfortable and stable. I was also surprised how light it feels considering 
> it's a stout frame. So stoked for many many years on this thing!
>
> Thanks to all those I've privately messaged and all those who answered my 
> questions and all that. It really helped a lot.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> I've been thinking of getting a Hunq for awhile now back when it was the 
> awesome grey and red color, so I got it colored in the old grey, but cream 
> accents to match the new Hunqapillar decals.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The 10 most beautiful bikes

[RoadieRyan]

Anyone else see the irony of this being posted in the BBC's Auto 
section..

On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 3:17:27 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> At least according to the BBC.  I would have included Pat's Betty.
> http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20140821-the-10-most-beautiful-bicycles
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

[RoadieRyan]

Congrats -new bike day is the best.  And as someone who went from 700x38c 
to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast.

On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> I finally got my Appaloosa together!  I'm really enjoying this bike!  The 
> main thing I love about it is the lower bottom bracket height.  It's so 
> stable and comfy.  I built it up with a mish-mash of parts: some new, some 
> from my cyclocross bike, some from the ebay, some from the shelves at the 
> LBS!  I'm running 35mm tires now because that's what I have, but I'm going 
> to go fatter soon!  After wanting a Rivendell for 10 years, I am thrilled 
> to have one!
>
> Parts list:
> Paul neo-retro brakes and paul levers
> Sugino x White Industries cranks
> VP Vice pedals
> Wolf Tooth 94bcd x 32 tooth narrow wide chainring (really low gearing!)
> Sunrace 9 speed thumbshifter
> Nitto dirt drop stem with albatross bars
>
> m
>
>

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[RBW] Can anyone suggest a good LBS in Spokane WA? particularly one that sells used bikes

[RoadieRyan]

Hi Group

My big bro has just moved from Seattle to Spokane and now is in position to 
bike to work, in Seattle I can think of a number of places that sell used 
bikes that I would trust but I don't know Spokane so any suggestions on 
either:

A) just a good LBS for tune up, upgrades, sound advice and/or 
B) a good place to buy used/refurbished bikes

in *The Lilac City *would be appreciated.  If he were still local I could 
probably refurb one for him myself but that 10 hour round trip in a car 
puts a damper on that idea.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Ryan S
West Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Seattle riding weather

[RoadieRyan]

I have a friend and fellow Seattleite who is a pretty dedicated bicycle 
commuter, his moto is "I will ride in the rain, and I will ride in the 
dark, I will *not* ride in the rain and the dark"  which means he doesn't 
commute much from November to March.  I think Seattle, like most 
economically successful cites is a dichotomy - on the one hand Jobs are 
fairly plentiful, if you have the money there is lots of great culture 
(arts, dining, sports, outdoors) to enjoy on the other congestion, housing 
prices and the gap between haves and have not's sucks. As a native 
North-westerner and a Seattleite for the last quarter century I am biased 
lots of great places to ride, tons of scenic beauty and no better place to 
be on a lovely summer day but it can really suck when its February and it 
seems like its been raining non-stop for months...


Ryan S

On Sunday, March 6, 2016 at 6:38:28 PM UTC-8, dstein wrote:

> Question for the Seattleites on here. I know the riding is great in and 
> around Seattle. Well I don't 'know know', but I imagine it is, lots of 
> various terrain and an endless supply of nature and picturesque landscapes. 
> But how is the weather for year round riding? Contemplating a move in a 
> year or two, possibly to Seattle since that is where my company is based 
> out of and my job is supposed to be. I know it rains a lot. I hear the 
> weather is shitty like 9 months out of the year. But I've been spending a 
> lot of time there recently and it seems that while its constantly gray and 
> cloudy, its usually not actually raining. Is this the case? Do you find 
> that you can get out most weekends on a ride (I work banker hours and 
> weekends are my riding time).
>
> To put it in more context: I live in the Bay Area, and am spoiled by year 
> round world class riding weather. Seriously, there are like 6-7 weekends a 
> year when its raining, and when it does it rains it does so for a few weeks 
> straight and I eventually end up suiting up in some rain proof garb and 
> going for it, and usually end up hating every second of it, but hard to 
> complain since it rains so seldom. I previously lived in Tennessee, where I 
> was used to more inclemental weather, and I'd say there I averaged a good 
> ride every other weekend throughout the year (more riding in the spring and 
> fall, less in the cold, icy, winters and oppressively hot summers). 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How to clean a Brooks saddle?

[RoadieRyan]

I haven't tried these yet but I came across these two links when 
researching how to clean up a saddle on a project bike I haven't gotten to 
yet - hope they help
http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7790094_clean-brooks-saddle.html 

http://www.ehow.co.uk/how_7659845_clean-boots-saddle-soap.html

On Monday, November 9, 2015 at 9:40:23 PM UTC-8, Lungimsam wrote:

> Rode my Brooks, shower-capped, in the rain for many ours this weekend. 
> Didn't get soaked, just a little sprinkled at quick stops when cap wasn't 
> on earlier in the day, but spent most of the time under a shower cap. Took 
> off shower cap for the car bike rack ride home.
>
> Next day, I noticed some dirty patches on the leather. Not sure if it is 
> mold or just dirt.
>
> Stuck on good. Cannot rub off with a regular dry towel, and didn't want to 
> wet the saddle.
>
> Anyway, how to clean it off without wetting the saddle?
> Any tricks?
> Or just proofhide it and forget it?
>

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[RBW] Re: Keven

[RoadieRyan]

I will just plus 1 to the outpouring for Keven.  I found myself in the bay 
area on business in 2010 and was able to swing a trip to Riv, not only did 
I get to ride both a Sam and San Marcos and talk bikes with Grant, Keven 
made feel very welcome by answering my questions and plying me with 
espresso and dark chocolate, probably rates as my favorite visit to any 
store ever.  Thanks Keven and best of luck in your new ventures.

Ryan

On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
>
> Just read the newsletter, I see that Keven is moving on to different 
> pastures, just wanted to take a moment to publicly acknowledge that he is 
> one of the nicest people I have ever come across in my life, and played a 
> huge part in my uber-positive Riv experience, and I'll miss calling him to 
> ask about things like "why won't these cranks fit this bike?" and other 
> marginalia that most people are smart enough to figure out on their own.
>
> I'll send him a note personally, but thought it might be nice to have a 
> little public thing here to recognize his part in the great Riv world.  
>
> Go Kev Go!  
>

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[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[RoadieRyan]

Wayne, I feel you pain -3 jobs since mid 2012 and I just started the latest 
one after a (unemployed) 5 month job search.  My dilemma was I had a 
purchased a late 70s Motobecane Grand Touring about a year ago that I had 
been trying to find for a couple years and then a bunch of new parts for 
it. as things started to get tight financially I was strongly considering 
selling the MB but decided I would first sell some of the new components 
(on this group).  I found out soon after listing the parts that I had a new 
job, so I was able to hold on to the MB and the parts I can replace as I am 
able.  I hope you are able to find alternatives to selling your dream frame 
and best of luck with the Farming venture -sounds exciting.

Ryan

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:28:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:

> Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my job, after five and 
> a half years.  The falling price of oil has had a sharply negative effect 
> in my industry.  There are other jobs in my field, but that would require a 
> major relocation.  My wife and I are tired of this, as it would be the 
> third such move in a little over a decade.  We are planning to relocate to 
> a plot of family land in the middle of BFE Michigan, and start a farm.  Its 
> a scary and exciting prospect.  My quandary is that I have a Clem on the 
> way, and it isn't paid for yet.  That is, Riv has their money but my credit 
> card has a big hole in it!  I have a good introductory deal:  No interest 
> for 15 months.  The Clem is the only purchase on the card.  So I figured 
> that it would be easy.  But now, of course, I feel differently.  Riv will 
> certainly cancel my sale, and someone else will certainly snap up the bike. 
>  But I can't let it go just yet.  It feels very selfish of me to want to 
> keep the bike, and I am trying to come up with ways to justify it's 
> existence in my life.  They ring hollow and I know it's just because the 
> bike has been this goal I've worked toward, and in some weird way, feel 
> I've earned.  Still, I might feel less stressed if I did just let it go. 
>  That money will find plenty of other uses.  Anyhow, I don't expect the 
> list to have any magic cures, but I just needed to rant.  Thanks for 
> listening.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Components and Clothes mostly NIB

[RoadieRyan]

Sorry both the pants and knickers are gone the only thing left is the 
DeMarchi Sweater/Jersey

R

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 3:56:43 PM UTC-7, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Wondering if my reply-to-author a couple days ago went astray.
>
> Are the pants still available?
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Components and Clothes mostly NIB

[RoadieRyan]

UPDATE - The components are all gone and the MUSA pants as well the 
DeMarchi Sweater and the MUSA XXL Knickers are still available 

Ryan

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 10:48:40 AM UTC-7, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> I have a stalled project and some nice clothing items I never wear and am 
> trying to clear out some space and I wanted to give the group first crack 
> before going to the bay.  I have provided links below so you can get all 
> the details but I can provide pictures of the actual items if you'd like. 
>  All prices below *include shipping* in the CONUS and they will go out 
> via USPS flat rate boxes.  Payment via Paypal.  Please contact me off list 
> if you are interested.  Thanks for looking
>
> Components:
>
>  
>
> ·   Rando Crank Grand Cru 50.4 BCD Crank-set MK II 46/30 170mm NIB 
> retail $200 asking $160 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/cranks/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  Thread-less Bottom Bracket Grand Cru, spindle length 118mm NIB 
> retail $70 asking $45. 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/bottom-brackets/grand-cru-threadless-bottom-brackets.html
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  Shimano Deore LX M581 rear derailleur, New out of packaging never 
> mounted these are gorgeous with raised lettering and they don’t make them 
> anymore. Asking $50 
> http://www.jensonusa.com/!HVe1ocZpK8P4r9n-JCA1mw!/Shimano-LX-M581-Rear-Derailleur
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  Origin8 Road classic brake levers drilled, gum hoods NIB retail 
> $35 asking $25  
> http://www.amazon.com/BRAKE-LEVER-OR8-CLASIQ-SPT/dp/B007HOIJFA 
>
>  
>
> ·  Brooks B17 Imperial black, mounted and ridden once on a test ride 
> retail approx. $130 asking $85 
> http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/touring+&+trekking/B17+Imperial/
>  
>
>  
>
> Clothes
>
>  
>
> ·  DeMarchi Itaila Sweater/Jersey worn once, slim fit XL extra fine 
> Merino wool blend (50%wool 50% acrylic) V-neck 3 rear pockets.  Retail $80 
> Asking $50 
> http://www.competitivecyclist.com/de-marchi-italia-sweater-mens?CMP_SKU=DMA000R&MER=0406&mr:referralID=ec84bbf8-6537-11e5-b0f7-0050569451e5
>  
>
>  
>
> ·  MUSA knickers black sized XXL never worn retail on current ones is 
> $94 asking $45. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ak1.htm 
>
>  
>
> ·  MUSA Pants grey with blue panels size XL I don’t think they make 
> them anymore and I got them on clearance never worn. Asking $40
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[RBW] FS Components and Clothes mostly NIB

[RoadieRyan]

I have a stalled project and some nice clothing items I never wear and am 
trying to clear out some space and I wanted to give the group first crack 
before going to the bay.  I have provided links below so you can get all 
the details but I can provide pictures of the actual items if you'd like. 
 All prices below *include shipping* in the CONUS and they will go out via 
USPS flat rate boxes.  Payment via Paypal.  Please contact me off list if 
you are interested.  Thanks for looking

Components:

 

·   Rando Crank Grand Cru 50.4 BCD Crank-set MK II 46/30 170mm NIB 
retail $200 asking $160 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/cranks/grand-cru-50-4bcd-crankset-mkii.html
 

 

·  Thread-less Bottom Bracket Grand Cru, spindle length 118mm NIB 
retail $70 asking $45. 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/bottom-brackets/grand-cru-threadless-bottom-brackets.html
 

 

·  Shimano Deore LX M581 rear derailleur, New out of packaging never 
mounted these are gorgeous with raised lettering and they don’t make them 
anymore. Asking $50 
http://www.jensonusa.com/!HVe1ocZpK8P4r9n-JCA1mw!/Shimano-LX-M581-Rear-Derailleur
 

 

·  Origin8 Road classic brake levers drilled, gum hoods NIB retail $35 
asking $25  http://www.amazon.com/BRAKE-LEVER-OR8-CLASIQ-SPT/dp/B007HOIJFA 

 

·  Brooks B17 Imperial black, mounted and ridden once on a test ride 
retail approx. $130 asking $85 
http://www.brooksengland.com/catalogue-and-shop/saddles/touring+&+trekking/B17+Imperial/
 

 

Clothes

 

·  DeMarchi Itaila Sweater/Jersey worn once, slim fit XL extra fine 
Merino wool blend (50%wool 50% acrylic) V-neck 3 rear pockets.  Retail $80 
Asking $50 
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/de-marchi-italia-sweater-mens?CMP_SKU=DMA000R&MER=0406&mr:referralID=ec84bbf8-6537-11e5-b0f7-0050569451e5
 

 

·  MUSA knickers black sized XXL never worn retail on current ones is 
$94 asking $45. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ak1.htm 

 

·  MUSA Pants grey with blue panels size XL I don’t think they make 
them anymore and I got them on clearance never worn. Asking $40

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[RBW] Re: Seattle-to-Portland this weekend?

[RoadieRyan]

Chapeau Rob, cool that they routed you through the base this year

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 11:41:35 AM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>
>  
>
> Nice report Andy.  I agree it's kind of a madhouse but it's a fun trip.  I 
> ride in group about twice a year and nearly all my rides are unplanned with 
> no real destination so it's a complete change of pace for me.  I did it in 
> one day which was my longest ride ever.  I paid for it that night and the 
> next day but I'm pretty much back to normal except for a sore Achilles 
> heel. How guys do PBP and longer rides is beyond me. 
>
>  
>
> The weather was a nice change from the recent heat wavelow 70's, some 
> drizzle, cloudy with mild to moderate head winds. There were some nice 
> changes to the course this year.  The route through McChord/Lewis military 
> base was a wonderful change replacing the worst section of the ride.  I 
> also made a 14 mile side-track and rode down the empty Interurban trail 
> instead of riding through the second worst section…the despised West Valley 
> highway.  No stoplights, no crowds...nothing but a lot of baby rabbits! 
>  Also a new trail between Centralia and Chehalis was an improvement. 
>
>  
>
> The Rivendell performed flawlessly with no problems.  The new Compass 
> tires are as good as advertised...very soft, smooth, however, I did 
> experience my first flat in 6 STP's. It was a big chunk of glass that 
> likely would have punctured about anything so I can't complain.  The tire 
> still has a small "hole" that looks kind of vulnerable so I'll boot it from 
> the back and hope for the best. 
>
>  
>
> I took a pretty moderate pace with the goal to avoid longs stops and keep 
> moving.  Finished in 14:45 which was about 15 minutes longer than 
> estimated.  I did have the puncture though and also stopped to help a guy 
> out….he fixed his flat but didn't know how to put the wheel back on.  
>
>  
>
> I saw the aftermaths of three crashes.  Two looked pretty minor but the 
> other one had rider was dusty and scratched up from head to toe.  I thought 
> the behavior of the vast majority of riders was very good.  I was ahead of 
> the big mass of two day riders though so I think most the people I was near 
> were fairly experienced.  Saw one a-hole in Centralia throw water at a car 
> that was passing him…he said he was getting squeezed but I was behind him 
> and he was way over to the left.  That seems to be my biggest beef….if you 
> are passing do it and get over!  I'm kind of amazed nobody gets killed on 
> the highway in Oregon where cars and truck are flying by at freeway speeds.
>
>  
>
> Any it was a fun day but I'm ready to get back to my normal rambles.   A 
> few pics here:
>
>  
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/sets/72157655744716946
>
>  
>
> Rob Markwardt
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 6:18:28 AM UTC-7, Andy Williams wrote:
>>
>>
>> Successful STP!   Ride report here 
>> .
>>
>> Andy
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seattle-to-Portland this weekend?

[RoadieRyan]

Have a great ride -I wish you cool tailwinds, I am three time finisher 
including a one day'er but its been a decade since I last did it.  Does 
look like it will be cooler than last weekend.  Be safe and have fun.  

R

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 10:10:41 PM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>
> Greetings,  
>   I'll be there on my sliver/orange Rivendell 
> .  My 
> bro's bailed out this summer so I'm soloing and planning on doing it in one 
> day. Plan on leaving early, getting in as many miles as possible before it 
> gets hot, then suffering to the finish. Hope to see a Riv or two on the 
> way. 
>
> PS. Mounted a new set of Compass "extra lights" on the steed tonight.  I 
> haven't ridden them yet but man they sure look good. I bet it will be like 
> riding tailwinds on marshmallows all the way to P-town! 
>
> Rob
>
> On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 8:46:56 AM UTC-7, Andy Williams wrote:
>>
>> Any other list members riding the STP next weekend?  Rivendell 
>> 
>>
>> Pictures prove I've done this before:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/awilliams53/7583563786/
>>
>> Andy
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: "Last run" of Sams?

[RoadieRyan]

Um I think you have just described the Rodeo

On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 12:49:44 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> I'd like to see a super lightweight tubing Rivendell road bike made for 
> upright, or low bars set up. Why pedal around anymore bulk than necessary, 
> and they already have plenty-o-beefy frames on the roster for touring/heavy 
> loading as is.
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[RBW] Re: What's the best 27" tire you know of?

[RoadieRyan]

Plus one on the Panaracer Paselas as "the best" as far as bang for the buck 
I really like the Kenda K36s I have used them on numerous old 10 speed 
rebuilds.


On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-7, Zach Duval wrote:
>
> And do you know of a good deal on it?

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[RBW] Re: New Build Complete: Saluki

[RoadieRyan]

sweet build


On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 8:03:30 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Took a few months, but finally done. 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for a multi-tool?

[RoadieRyan]

I use a Topeak Alien that is probably about 12 years old but I love because 
it had those wrenches on it or you could carry a Y wrench 
 
http://www.amazon.com/Topeak-Alien-26-Function-Bicycle-Tool/dp/B000FIE4AE/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1431206107&sr=1-1&keywords=topeak+alien

On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 12:11:04 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Specifically looking for something with wrenches on it for tightening 
> fender stay nuts, etc.
>

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[RBW] Re: Quality "budget" steel bike offereings?

[RoadieRyan]

I bought a Handsome Devil Frameset back in 2009 that I built up, when I 
couldn't afford a Riv, and it has been a great Steed in the last 6 years. 
 One thing I love about it is that's so versatile; its been a triple a 
double and now a 1x9 and it has room for up to 700x50 tires - I am running 
700x47c Continentals on it currently.  And the price is in line with Surly. 
 For a riv connection the brothers who run Handsome Devil have a Grant 
Peterson tribute bike in the line up -the XOXO which duplicates the iconic 
Bridgestone XO.  http://handsomecycles.com/ 

R

On Friday, May 8, 2015 at 7:44:47 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I know a number of new companies have begun producing what appear to be 
> good, quality entry level steel bikes. (Isnt’ Grant on the board of one of 
> them?). I have an acquaintance living in flat-landia interested in an 
> errand/city/beach bike that is hearty and lower maintenance (thus single 
> speed) and wondering what a few companies are I could send him to.
>
> Thanks!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
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[RBW] Re: So your friend calls and says he wants to buy a bike

[RoadieRyan]

I would ask the following

What kind of Triathlons do you do (Sprint, Ironman?)
What kind of bike do you have currently or did you have previously? what is 
good or bad about that bike for you?
Will you ride it for anything but Triathlons?
Have you ever ridden a bike in that position (i.e super aero) for any 
length of time.

Depending on the specifics of the use I would keep in mind that a tri 
specific bike is really good at triathlons and not much else where as a 
road bike can be adapted to triathlons (bars, seat, wheels etc) but can 
also do road rides and commuting.

 Good luck

On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 2:25:32 PM UTC-7, Amit Singh wrote:
>
> He has a budget of $3,000 and wants to buy a "tri-bike" and wants your 
> advice on what to get.
>
> What do you tell him?
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Ricendell riders use for cycling shoes (not clipless).

[RoadieRyan]

I use Keen Commuters to ride clipless but I am just as happy riding in 
regular keen sandals when I ride without "special shoes" I think the keen 
sole is thick enough that you won't feel the rat traps - I don't on my 
Shimano PD 324s when I ride the platform side (rat trap like).

On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 5:39:17 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> What do you all use? 
> Looking for something so I don't feel my rat raps through the soles. 
> Been using sneakers but feet getting a little sore on longer rides.

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[RBW] Re: Manny/many Rivs in PDX

[RoadieRyan]

Although I have lived in Seattle for the last 20 years (Great City) 
Portland is where I grew up and I still have family and friends there and 
get back to visit a couple times a year.  I see you made it to the 
detention bar at the Kennedy School -nice.  If you haven't been I would 
suggest visiting Velocult http://velocult.com/ - bikes, beer Coffee and 
sometimes live music- why would you ever leave? 

Ryan S

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 8:05:30 PM UTC-7, velomann wrote:
>
> Manny visited and brought the sun with him. He handed over his Nitto 
> Campee rack. There was riding, kids, coffee outside, donuts, food carts and 
> beverages. And many Rivendells. Three (!) Cheviuts in 3 sizes, a Homer, an 
> Atlantis, a Hillborne. Lots of other really useful bikes. We visited the 
> soon-to-open, long-rumored, ideally-located, Rivendell bike shop - Rivelo. 
> Pics here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8199310@N04/sets/72157649717027563
>
> Mike M
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[RBW] Re: L'Eroica California (Oh how I wish I went)

[RoadieRyan]

Thanks for posting this, the Italian version has long been on the bucket 
list but a California one is probably more likely.  I have the prefect bike 
for it, a 1977 Motobecane Grand Touring, now I just need to get in shape 
and get a Job ;-) for 2016 or beyond. 

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 8:34:38 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> One of my close associates at work had the opportunity to participate in 
> LEroica 
> California.  Next year, I am there. 
>  MUST DO IT.  If I can drag any of you along, that would be great.
>
> In the mean time, he shared some links to what constitutes some awesome 
> bicycle eye candy.
>
> Day 1 
> Day 2 
>
> Oh, do I now regret separating from my first serious bike, an Ital Vega 
> Super Record (1971).  Drilled out Campy Record and Candy Root Beer 531 with 
> the most beautiful lugs and filets.
>
> My friend rode a 55 year old Paramount.  It is a fantastic bike today as 
> our Rivendell products will be 55 years from now.
>
> Nevertheless, I think Sam Hillborne or Boulder All Road would fit right in 
> with these folks.  They seem to have a lot of the same spirit as the "RBW 
> Owners Bunch".
>
> Hope you like this.
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

[RoadieRyan]

my Handsome Devil has had many configurations from 3x9  to 1x9 but never a 
single speed I would be curious how that works out

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:27:19 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> That is a great looking bike!!  Makes me want to single-speed my Handsome 
> Devil, which is extremely close to the Simpleone in geometry and size.  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Hudson Doerge wrote:
>>
>> After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple 
>> years I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for 
>> some more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On 
>> went the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my 
>> trusty and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do 
>> run a bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with 
>> the Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.
>>
>> -Hudson in ATX
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

[RoadieRyan]

Orange is the fastest color - gorgeous bike

On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-7, KC wrote:
>
> This may not make it up because I am a new member and my first posting 
> from over a week ago hasn't shown up.  I just want to share with everyone 
> that I got my Cheviot 2 days ago and I love it..  Went on a long ride 
> yesterday (with my husband riding his "new" Space Horse thanks to this 
> group) and had so much fun.  Should've bought a good bike years ago.
>
> It is beautiful.  Only problem is I refused to leave it outside and my 
> husband is not really pleased with it in the motor home.  But my son 
> understood completely.  He bought a used Cross Check last week and has it 
> in the house because he just loves looking at it (and he has several Rivs 
> out in the garage so it shouldn't be quite as special an experience for 
> him).
>
> I just don't have any good bicycle knowledge, although I've really been 
> studying up and know 100 times more than I did 4 months ago.  So it was a 
> little scary for me buying this bike, but I couldn't shake the way the 
> Rivendell philosophy spoke to me and I daughter-in-law graciously let me 
> ride her too-big-for-me Glorius enough that it helped.  I had to really 
> rely on Keven.  He patiently answered all my questions, but really I had to 
> just rely on him and I would say the bike is spot-on for me.  Did I mention 
> it is beautiful, - in a very rugged, sporty way.  I agonized over orange 
> because I loved my daughter-in-law's blue bikes, but the orange with the 
> blue highlights is just perfect.  
>
> As I said, I don't really know bikes but it was like a feast just looking 
> at the beautiful bikes in their shop Monday.  The Clems and Clementines are 
> there with beautiful paint jobs.  The curves on the Clementine are so 
> nice.  Makes me want to buy one even though that would be the most 
> ridiculous thing I could do.  It is a sickness.  We'll be dropping by again 
> to pick up a few things - if there is a specific photo someone would like, 
> I'm sure they wouldn't mind if we took it.  Let me know.
>

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[RBW] Re: My Bleriot Looks Like That?

[RoadieRyan]

recycled cycles is indeed a great shop and they made your Bleriot look new, 
its the model that made me first notice Riv and started an obsession with 
lugged steel bikes

On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 8:37:02 PM UTC-7, rob markwardt wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>   I was in the process of changing cables on my Bleriot when I realized it 
> was in ready for a much needed overhaul.  I'm a hack mechanic and have kept 
> it on the road for eight years, but it's a bike I use a lot and it was due 
> for professional attention. The local shop (Recycled Cycles-Fremont, 
> Seattle...AWESOME) not only did a fantastic job replacing parts and 
> overhauling but they cleaned it!  When I picked it up I couldn't believe 
> the color...I'd forgotten how light and reflective the original color 
> really was...very pretty.  Kind of embarrassing to think how I dropped it 
> off but have received a couple thumbs up since.  Of course took it out in 
> the rain today...hah.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/1664230/
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/16643693359/
>
> Rob Markwardt
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x9 setup "because I felt like it"

[RoadieRyan]

I did with this with my "all rounder" bike, a Handsome Devil, about 3 years 
ago and have not looked back.  With a 36t crank and an 11-36 9 speed 
cassette I have the range I need for getting around my hilly neighborhood 
with out fussing with a FD.  I bought a Paul's "chain keeper" but have 
never mounted it as I have never had an issue with the chain dropping.  
Enjoy.  

On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 10:44:25 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Still restless this winter, with spectacular weather outside but not able 
> to ride anywhere near as much as I would like.  Normally I'd work out my 
> anxieties and frustration with another build project, but my garage is 
> packed, so I look for problems that don't exist and fix them.  
> #firstworldproblems
>
> This week's sideshow was something I've been thinking about since a really 
> intriguing BQ test article about the SRAM CX1 group.  That's a 1x11 setup.  
> I was curious, so I went ahead and bought a wide/narrow chainring and 
> converted my A. Homer Hilsen to a 1x9.  42 in front, 11-32 in back.  I 
> think it looks pretty slick.  Fortunately, I was able to run the chainring 
> backwards (middle position) so I don't have to look at gaudy RaceFace 
> graphics with the standard drivetrain shot.  
>
> I did it just because I felt like it.  Some people that means that I 
> shouldn't have done it, but I did.  So there. 
>
> PICTURES  
> prove 
> that I don't mind working pointlessly.  I still like working.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Solvent tank for drivetrain cleaning

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I have been using an ultrasonic cleaner I got on Amazon for the last couple 
years and love it as it gets to all the cracks and crevices I would have a 
hard time reaching with a tooth brush.  It will do almost all of the drive 
train components as well as the stem and seat post (if they aren't too 
long) I do a lot of work on old 10 speeds so it is very handy. It is close 
to this model 
http://www.amazon.com/Kendal-Industrial-Digital-Ultrasonic-Cleaner/dp/B0018IIPFK/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1424881043&sr=8-8&keywords=ultrasonic+cleaner
 

On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 12:25:37 PM UTC-8, George Schick wrote:
>
> Another good product from Harbor Freight might be an ultrasonic cleaner. 
>  I've always wanted one of those and this one is about the right size with 
> a 2.5 liter capacity.  Should work good with something like Finish Line 
> citrus solvent, which may be diluted with up to 5 parts water.  Would be 
> great for chains.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-95563.html
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 2:15:25 PM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> Try this, from Harbor Freight 
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/6-1-2-half-gallon-parts-washer-96952.html 
>> 6.5 gallons and big enough for a crankset with rings attached.   The 
>> best washers are heated, but this one is great for normal home use. 
>> Scott 
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:09 PM, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote: 
>> > We just got one at the community shop in town bikebbq.com 
>> > It's huge, takes a while to heat up, but works fantastically. Can put 
>> an 
>> > entire frame inside it! 
>> > Doesn't work that great for casual use. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 10:35:22 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Does anyone have a solvent tank for drivetrain parts cleaning?  That 
>> seems 
>> >> like the ultimate solution for cleaning greasy parts.  It would be 
>> nice to 
>> >> have two chains and just leave one in there all the time. 
>> >> 
>> >> The drawbacks are, potential fumes in an enclosed area and they're 
>> >> expensive. 
>> >> 
>> >> I found this one on Amazon but it's $205... 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/Gallon-Pressure-Cleaner-Solvent-Electric/dp/B0029443HG 
>> >> 
>> >> Plus 20 gallons of solvent, may put this in the category of "maybe 
>> >> someday" 
>> >> 
>> >> I also do some work on my cars though and it would be nice to have for 
>> >> that as well.  So maybe the dual use will justify it ;) 
>> >> 
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[RBW] New Steel Alloy what could it mean for bikes

[RoadieRyan]

Interesting article made me wonder what this new alloy could mean for bike 
frames 
http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21642107-alloy-iron-and-aluminium-good-titanium-tenth
 

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[RBW] Re: A Thought for Sheldon Today

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Amen Jim RIP Mr. Brown.  

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 8:53:52 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Just wanted to take a moment and mention that today is the date which 
> Sheldon Brown left us. 
> Once upon a time, it was not all that easy to find quality information 
> about bicycle equipment and history.  This was back when usenet actually 
> mattered, and listserv's were reasonably cutting edge.  
> It's hard to understate the comprehensive and clearly knowledgeable 
> presence that was Sheldon Brown. He methodically built and expanded a 
> website which brought together his copious helpful posts in the groups and 
> lists.
> Of course, what made him legendary was not just his technical knowledge, 
> but the humor and enjoyment he brought.  For many cyclists, April First 
> will remain Sheldon Brown Day - if you want to know why, start here - 
> http://sheldonbrown.com/5and5.html and then follow the links to other 
> ShelBroCo product announcements. 
> He was an amazing beacon of bicycle knowledge during the early years of 
> the internet. His love of bicycling and selfless sharing set a tone which 
> guides many of us today. Whether it was obscure Whitworth threading or 
> simple, thorough description of wheelbuilding, hub overhauling or flat 
> fixing, the solution was simple - "AASHTA"... As Always, Sheldon Has the 
> Answer.
> Tailwinds always, Sheldon!
>
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[RBW] Re: A bike for Mom

[RoadieRyan]

what an awesome gift!

On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 9:09:44 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2015/01/happy-mothers-day-birthday-christmas.html
>
> It took longer than it should have but my Riv inspired step thru lake 
> cruiser is finally delivered.  Building a bike up from pretty much nothing 
> is a daunting task and it makes you appreciate well designed frames from 
> Riv all the more for their relative ease in building up, modifying and of 
> course riding!  I think I ended up with a pretty good interpretation of a 
> Riv Betty w/ a much more modest budget.  The build highlights include;
>
> 1980's Schwinn World stepthru frame (powdercoated)
> 26 3/8" Wheelset, Dyno Front, 2 spd Rear, Schwable tires
> Steel fenders and Brooks Saddle from Raleigh 3 spd
> Wald Baskets front and rear
> Dyno Head and Tail lights
> Nitto/Brooks/Rivendell cockpit
> Velo Orange Crankset and Front Rack
>
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

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Finishing a rebuild project - 1970s Torpado Alpha that has been dissembled 
for going on two months.  Need to clean and wax frame, rebuild the main 
bearings, clean up the components and then reassemble with new parts.   I 
find once I get going on the bearings the project starts to gather 
momentum.  http://ryansrebuilds.blogspot.com/ 

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 2:37:11 AM UTC-8, ascpgh wrote:
>
> Riding, besides my commutes, get a bit scant from here on out through 
> winter. The season, the holidays, more deliberate prep for a trip in the 
> conditions, plenty of things distract from just a nice ride but I realize 
> that at this time every year I always seem to contemplate a bike project to 
> go with the anticipated springtime, fruition or not. It's biking fun for 
> the extra bandwidth.
>
> My project is a low trail, 650b wheeled, all-around bike made with a 
> lively tube set (versus sturdy for touring) with drop bars, center pull 
> brakes, generator hub, LED lighting. All on a budget recognizing the value 
> of experience, unlike the box bike/mass market interpretation, handmade 
> wheels versus machine made ones as an example. I am reading and including 
> many posting subjects and items in this project and admit that may not 
> reach reality, but it's fun to have on the drawing board.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>

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[RBW] Re: Daring to wrench on my Riv's?

[RoadieRyan]

I learned by working on old 10 speeds and using Sheldon Browns site, 
YouTube, and copious amounts of the Zinn and the art of Road bike 
maintenance.  My take-aways are; take your time, walk away when you get 
frustrated, having good tools/the right tools for the job can make things 
SO much easier, don't be afraid to consult the LBS if you get stuck, and 
finally its so supposed to be fun so enjoy yourself.   I don't consider 
myself mechanically inclined lungimsam and I have rebuilt about 20 old 10 
speeds in the last 7 years.  I don't rebuild wheels but I do true them and 
 do just about everything else.  You can do it!

Ryan

On Thursday, December 4, 2014 9:25:42 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:

> I can do some stuff on my bikes. Setting up cockpits and saddle/seatpost, 
> brake lever/caliper/housing/cable installation and adjustment, pedals, 
> shifter lever installation and adjustment, fender/rack installations, 
> cassette/chain swapping, etc. The more basic stuff.
>
> But I haven't dared to do anything with bb's, cranksets, wheel 
> building/truing, headset adjustment, derailer installation. Just don't 
> wanna mess anything up.
> But I want to learn to do this stuff so I don't have to depend on the LBS 
> for things.
>
> What's a good way to go about doing these more difficult things without 
> damaging anything? Books and websites are helpful, but I still don't have 
> the confidence to mess with the aforementioned stuff.
>
> Buy a beater and wrench away on it? But a lot of old road bike beaters 
> don't match the type of components and frame of the RBW bikes and wheels, 
> so I don't know how helpful that would be to break down and rebuild a 
> Peugeot (for instance) to help me learn how to do maintenance on my 
> Rivbikes.
>
> Any ideas? How'd you learn?
>

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[RBW] Re: jockey wheels for yesteryear shimano

[RoadieRyan]

I just ordered a set of those VO jockey wheels to see if I can get them to 
work on 70's era Simplex rear der.  I have a number of them with worn 
jockey wheels so fingers crossed, worth a flyer for $10.

On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 6:57:13 AM UTC-7, Mobile Bill wrote:
>
> In case anyone is counting the teeth on their jockey wheels, be aware I 
> made a bad assumption: While my older Deore shimano does have 10 teeth, the 
> slightly newer XT low normal sold by Riv does have the modern count of 11. 
> (Both needed new wheels --- sorry Joe, I just can't let go of a good 
> derailleur) Sorry for that bit of confusion. I'll apply the 10-tooth advice 
> to the older unit.  VO has a nice set of 10-tooth replacements on the 
> website that are the correct diameter, but not currently in stock. 
>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:30:32 PM UTC-5, Mobile Bill wrote:
>>
>> This is generally a conservative bunch, at least mechanically speaking. 
>> So you understand my desire to keep my 6-year-old low-normal shimano rear 
>> derailleur going after 20,000 odd miles (Shimano quit making them shortly 
>> after Riv started promoting them, so can't get new). The jockey wheels are 
>> shot. Trouble is, it's really hard to find any replacement jockey wheels 
>> with 10 teeth. Anybody tried an 11-tooth replacement for an old 10 tooth? 
>> SHouldn't be a chain size issue, but may be a space issue inside the cage? 
>> If that's not possible, anybody got a clue what so many of us are going to 
>> do as our old 8-speed derailleurs need normal part replacement.
>>
>

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[RBW] Suggestions for a friendly Bike Shop in Corvallis Oregon

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I just built up a 1977 Raleigh Record LTD mixte for my Niece to take with 
her to grad School at Oregon State this fall.  Its my alma mater but I 
(gasp) didn't have a bike while in College as I lived on campus and didn't 
really need one and its been a few ..er..decades since I was last in town 
so I am wondering if anyone has any good suggestions on bike shops in 
Corvallis, specifically one that willingly works on bike boom era 10 speeds.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.  

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[RBW] Re: Good ride in Seattle?

[RoadieRyan]

+1 on Andy's suggestion the Mercer Island loop is a fun ride with gorgeous 
views and fairly lightly travelled roads.  Enjoy

On Friday, August 15, 2014 10:49:01 PM UTC-7, Mike On A Bike wrote:
>
> I'm blasting over to Seattle for about 24 hours tomorrow with my sister 
> and I wanted to see if some of you locals could offer up good route 
> suggestions. With a bit of googling I saw that Mercer Island might be 
> promising.
>
>  Just looking for a moderately strenuous yet rewarding ride that can be 
> done in under 3 hours that'll have us see a neat part of the city (I've 
> never been). 
>
> Also, any recommended places to rent bikes from? FWIW, we're staying with 
>  Capitol Hill /East Lake. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis sails again

[RoadieRyan]

Chapeau on your trip.  You have come to our fine evergreen state at a time 
of fabulous weather,  Have a great ramble.

On Saturday, July 5, 2014 9:01:46 AM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
>
> Hey gang, 
>
> So I'm taking the Atlantis out on another long tour. Just did my first 
> night camping and am sending this as I prepare to head out.  You can read 
> about this your on the blog which has links to the Photoset (not much there 
> yet) as well: 
>
> http://www.spiralcage.com/rootless/?p=3428 
>
> Cheers, 
> Robert 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: I would rather ride my Rivendell thank you

[RoadieRyan]

Chapeau! on your attitude.  Just went through the layoff unemployment new 
job cycle,   I wish you all the best in your new path.

Ryan

On Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:53:34 PM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote:

> Today I was called into a meeting where I was met by HR, management and my 
> union reps. Budget cuts etc and I was let go after 16 years with the same 
> psychiatric hospital. They offered me a cab ride home, since most people 
> are too upset after losing their job but I declined. I told them I had my 
> bike at work and I was going to ride it home. They didn’t understand this. 
> They suggestedG I put the bike in a cab and go home but again I declined. 
> Losing your job is one thing, but not being able to ride my Rivendell home 
> is even worse! 
>
>  
>
> The ride home was blissful. I love my bike. 
>
>  
>
> P.S. They did give me a pretty good package, so not all is bad. Plus after 
> dealing with 3700 sex offenders against children in my career so far, I 
> might relish a change. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Your pre-80's steel vs. today's steel bikes.

[RoadieRyan]

Ryan I have not had the pleasure, yet, of riding one of the more upscale 
Peugeots (531 tubing) of yesteryear but I have rebuilt a number of UO-8's 
(sports) and just recently a UO-10 (course) and even these "pedestrian" 
steeds have a certain something to their ride quality.

On Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:08:43 AM UTC-7, Ryan wrote:
>
> I have to say...aesthetically, that Mercian is a beauty in a very 
> understated waylove the British racing green
>  
> My more pedestrian Peugeot PX-10 with Reynolds 531 throughout (except for 
> aftermarket Tange fork) cosmetically sucks, but rides wonderfully. It still 
> has a lively, supple feel to it that I think the rivendells come close too 
> but don't quite match. If I were a car guy, maybe I'd say the Peugeot is 
> like a sports car whereas the Rivs are like a powerful comfortable grand 
> touring car..MGB versus Rover...The Peugeot's tubing is smaller outside 
> diameter than my 2 Rivs. The AR is Reynolds 753 with a Reynolds 531 fork. 
> My 2001 CG-built road custom is a mixture of Reynolds 725 and True Temper 
> OX platinumexact mix is in the stud book. Is it the geometry, the 
> tubing,or the French je ne sais quoi? I don't know but the ride of my ratty 
> PX-10 punches way above its weight.
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:15:09 AM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
>> No Rivendells in my collection, but a bunch of other steel road bikes, 
>> from pre-80s up to 2013. How do these all compare?
>>
>> 1971 Mercian Olympic-- Reynolds 531, rides nice, fairly compliant, not 
>> the snappiest response to pedaling.
>>
>> 1982 Jack Taylor Tour of Britain-- Reynolds 531, rides incredibly 
>> smoothly and compliant. Snappy response to pedaling. The stays and fork 
>> blades are pencil thin, which may contribute.
>>
>> 1988 Trek 560-- TruTemper double butted tubing, rides nice but not great, 
>> fairly compliant.  Somewhat dead response to pedaling.
>>
>> 2013 Rawland Stag-- unkown double butted tubing (8/5/8 main tubes is all 
>> I know)-- has an overbuilt, stiff fork which compromises the ride quality, 
>> but the frame is very snappy in response to pedaling.
>>
>> 2014 Jeff Lyon L'Avecaise custom-- currently getting painted before 
>> delivery to me, unknown (to me) tubing, will have 7/4/7 TT, and thin, 
>> compliant Kaisei fork blades.  Was built to have a very compliant ride and 
>> snappy response. We'll see!
>>
>> Interesting how two Reynolds 531 bikes can ride and feel differently 
>> (both bike have comparably supple and fast rolling tires, and similar 
>> overall builds). The devil is definitely in the details when it comes to 
>> bike handling and ride dynamics, and tubing is just one of many variables.
>>
>> As far as standard off-the-shelf bikes go, one problem is that they have 
>> to be designed to work across the anthropometric range of rider metrics 
>> within a given frame size.  That is, a given size frame has to be strong 
>> enough to accomodate riders who may vary by as much as 100-150 lbs. i.e., 
>> there needs to be a certain level of robustness built in, at least to 
>> minimize the risk of potential frame failures.  Only a custom bike built to 
>> a rider's personal metrics will yield a frame that behaves exactly as the 
>> rider wants. Everything else is a compromise in some way or another.
>>
>> Anton
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Your pre-80's steel vs. today's steel bikes.

[RoadieRyan]

Man my dumpster never has anything that cool in it!  what a find.  I have 
to search craigslist and spend $$ to find things like this 78 Motobecane 
Grand 
Touring https://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/sets/72157644895050544/ 

On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:57:31 AM UTC-7, Coconutbill wrote:
>
> I found this pre-80s (notice the 1974 dated sticker) Flandria in a rubble 
> pile at school. Its the time of year when bikes are finally have their 
> locks cut after years of being chained . the bike has no chain, needs 
> cables replaced, rusted all around ... but yet, it's a thing of beauty. 
> steel. 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconutbill/sets/72157644885912614/
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Square taper spindle bolt torque

[RoadieRyan]

Jim very sorry to hear of your mechanical on a long Brevet.  I had a 
similar issues with a Sugino crank and Shimano square taper bb combo, 
although not as severe as yours but I did have to regularly tighten the non 
drive crank to the where I got fed up and just swapped out the whole set up 
for a new crank (single chain ring)  and bb  (VO grand cru) and have not 
had that issue since.

Ryan

On Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:44:05 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Well I was riding a 1000k brevet and about 75 miles into the 2nd day's 
> ride, I noticed that my left side crank had come loose.  I tightened it 
> down but it was loose again in a mile.  So I really torqued it down and 
> that lasted about five miles.  So this pattern persisted, but it kept 
> getting worse until I could only ride a few hundred yards before the 
> crankarm was loose again.
>
> I finally abandoned my 1000k at the next town, Buffalo, TX, where I am 
> currently stranded.  But I'm just trying to figure out where I went wrong.
>
> What is the required torque for spare taper spindle cranks?  My friends 
> kept saying it just wasn't possible to get enough torque on the bolt using 
> a multi-tool, but I am pretty strong and I put as much tightening force 
> into it as I could.
>
> Would Locktite Red have helped?  Tried to find some but no auto parts 
> stores in this town are open Sunday.
>
> The threads don't seem to be stripped, but is it possible the spindle is 
> cracked?
>
> Is my taper trashed now?
>
> Parts:  Sugino XD600, BB-UN-55.
>
> Mileage completed:  321.
>
> Pic:  there it sits.
>

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[RBW] Re: Fuji Touring Series IV, Rivish Makeover, Phase 1

[RoadieRyan]

Bobby, 

Sweet find, I restored a 1979 Fuji Royale and really enjoyed it.  You may 
find that there are more 27" tires options that you think, I did a blog 
post on this topic a while back 
(http://ryansrebuilds.blogspot.com/2013/02/myth-busted-there-are-very-few-options.html)
 
I think the Paselas are a great choice and your 27 1 /4" tires are the 
equivalent of a 700x32c, you can also go up to 27 1 3/8 to get a slightly 
plusher 700x37c equivalent.  Either way you go enjoy that beautiful Fuji.

Ryan

On Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:28:03 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Found this all-original 1983 Fuji Touring Series on eBay last year, and 
> have just finally gotten around to giving it a minor Rivish makeover.  I 
> wanted to leave it as original as possible, but I simply had to give it a 
> Brooks saddle, swap the narrow touring bars and down tube shifters for 
> wider bars (Noodle 48s with Dirt Drop stem) and bar-end shifters (vintage 
> Shimano, spring-loaded).  And although I would like to run fatter 
> tires, width choices for 27 inch rims are very limited.  The wheels are 
> beautiful, though (40-spoke rear, 36-spoke front) and I went with the 
> widest 27x 1 1/4 tire I could find - Panaracer Paselas... It rides 
> beautifully, so I will stick with the current setup for now (before 
> considering changing to 700c wheels)..
>
> I will add racks, bags and fenders next.  This ride quality of this bike 
> is exceptional.  BB 
>
>
> 
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Drivetrains without a front derailer

[RoadieRyan]

I agree with you Matthew J I have a 1x9 set up as I live in a hilly area 
and it has worked great for 2 years of commuting, errand running and casual 
fun rides.  Don't find myself missing the FD and with a 11-36t cassette 
paired with a 36t front ring I can tackle a fairly wide range of terrain.

On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:52:04 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Perhaps I am the voice in the wilderness here, but 30 gears, especially 
> for commuting, light touring is overkill to me.
>>
>> I chose the gears on my ride range 5 speed to fit just about every 
> situation I could imagine needing.  As it is, I use the three middle gears 
> 90% of the time, with the low and the high looking almost brand new two 
> years into my 5 speed experiment.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[RoadieRyan]

Hmmm Char burger.  As a kid growing up in Portland the family often took 
trips through the gorge on the way to visit family in Eastern Washington 
and we would regularly stop at Char Burger in Hood River -yum.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 12:41:14 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
> -- 
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[RoadieRyan]

Hmmm Char burger.  As a kid growing up in Portland the family often took 
trips through the gorge on the way to visit family in Eastern Washington 
and we would regularly stop at Char Burger in Hood River -yum.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 12:41:14 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
> -- 
> "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah 
>

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[RBW] Re: Contemplating 1 x 9 drivetrain

[RoadieRyan]

Hi Patrick

I made this switch on my Handsome devil about 3 years ago and love it, I 
have rarely found I miss the high end and the low is low enough to get me 
up most of the hills here in hilly west Seattle, I am a gear inches fan 
since finding Sheldon Browns gear calculator and I set up my bike with; 36t 
chain-ring, a 12-36t cassette,  Deore LX RD and Ultegra bar end shifter and 
it gives me great coverage per below.   Unless you really love to mash the 
gears going down hill I doubt you'll miss the top end.  Cheers 

Ryan

36  Cassette Gear Inches  12 81.5  14 69.9  16 61.1  18 54.3  21 46.6  
24 40.8  28 34.9  32 30.6  36 27.2 
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:45:03 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I am contemplating whether to go 1 x 9 or 2 x 9 with my drive train. here 
> is the gear ration range comparison:
>
> In gain ratios:
>
> Current range (excluding my big ring, which I rarely use and will be 
> dropping):
> 1.5 - 6
>
> 1 x 9 (28 x 12-36)
> 1.6 - 4.7
>
> 2 x 9 (24/36 x 12-36)
> 1.3 - 6
>
> I don’t really need lower than 1.5, and I am unsure how the drop to 4.7 
> from 6 translates to speed loss. On flat or gradual descents, I suspect I 
> would miss those upper gears. Can anyone provide their wisdom here?
>
> I am asking the question because I want to go as simple as is practical. 
> I’d love to go with the 36t on a 1x set up, but it would add significantly 
> to the number of hills i’m walking, especially when bikepacking. Perhaps 
> going with a 30 or 32t 1x set up is the way to go? I will no doubt get 
> stronger and the loss may not be a big deal with that. But then it’s better 
> to lose gears on the upper range and coast more, and enjoy the ride on the 
> climbs without killing myself.
>
> All wisdom deeply appreciated.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: 33.3 vs 35 (Jack Brown vs Paselas)

[RoadieRyan]

Mattew,

I ran Pasela's 700x35c on my Handsome Devil for quite some time, with 
fenders, and really liked them although a while ago I lost my mind, removed 
my fenders and crammed some 700x47c Continental touring plus' on the Devil 
and have been enjoying my poor mans fat bike, or is that fat mans poor 
bike?, ever since.  I don't think you can go wrong with either of the tires 
you are considering.  Pictures of my HD with Paselas and Contis 
here http://ryansrebuilds.blogspot.com/2012/12/fat-tires-on-winter-solstice.html

Ryan

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:09:20 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is an old, worn out topic. My main question is to do with 
> the benefits of a smoother rolling tire (Jack Brown) vs a slightly fatter 
> tire. The Pasela isn't that much larger than the Jack Brown, but on the 
> other hand, the Jack Brown isn't that much larger than my current tires. 
> Both would probably be an improvement, but in different ways. I don't have 
> a strong preference along the fast rolling vs puncture resistance spectrum. 
>
> I currently ride short to moderate rides–mainly city or well worn trails. 
> I have 32mm Kenda Eurotreks that came with my Handsome Devil, which I have 
> Rivved up as best I can (and which I like a lot and won't know any better 
> until one of you puts a non-single speed Riv up for sale at just the right 
> price in just the right size at just the right point in a paycheck cycle).

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

[RoadieRyan]

Kevin - nice looking rig how do you like your VO PH so far?

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:47:21 PM UTC-7, Kevin Mulcahy wrote:
>
>
> On my VO Passhunter:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Single-Chainring Drivetrains

[RoadieRyan]

Converted my Handsome Devil from a Sugino XD triple to a compact double to 
finally a single chain ring 1x9 set up 36t chain ring and 12-36t 9 speed 
cassette.  The gear inch range from 27.2 to 81.5 works well for hilly West 
Seattle and I have had so few issues with chain drops that the Paul chain 
keeper I bought for this set-up has never been mounted.  It probably helps 
that I am not pushing this bike to the limit, I am seldom out of the 
saddle, or doing rapid shifts, on the other hand I am not babying it 
either.   Love the simplicity of the 1x9 set up and don't see ever using a 
triple again, the closest I will get would be a 40x26t set up that Riv 
sells.

my .02 cents

On Monday, February 24, 2014 3:38:55 PM UTC-8, HunqRider wrote:
>
> Wondering if anyone is thinking about converting their Rivendell over to a 
> simple 1x drivetrain configuration (single chainring).  I did this last 
> year, and it has made riding a whole lot simpler and fun.  
>
>  
>
> I will detail my experiences, which hopefully will be useful to others 
> thinking about making the change.
>
>  
>
> My original drivetrain configuration was:
>
> Hunqapillar (54 cm frame)
>
> 113mm Bottom bracket
>
> Sugino XD2 crankset (double)
>
> 34 and 48 tooth chainrings
>
> 8-speed cassette (12-32 tooth)
>
>  
>
> To make the change over to the 1x drivetrain, I figured I would just take 
> off the outer chainring and replace with 5 washers of similar thickness.  
> There was a problem though; the “nut” part of the chainring bolts were too 
> long, so had to get some shorter ones.  My LBS sold ones that were designed 
> for single speed cranks from a company named “Problem Solvers”; these ended 
> up working fine, though I ended up having to use the old longer crankset 
> “bolts” with my new shorter “nuts”.  
>
>  
>
> I took off the front derailer, and went out on a few rides.  Everything 
> was fine, except that when doing fast shifts over to the small cassette 
> cogs, the chain would sometimes fall off the chainring to the outside.  So 
> I installed a Paul Components Chain Keeper.  This device mounts onto the 
> seat tube where the front derailler would normally be, and it covers both 
> the inside and outside of the chain. This worked only ‘OK’ for me.  I 
> believe that it is designed for 9- or 10-speed chain thicknesses, so my 
> 8-speed chain was a tight fit.  I had to play with it a lot to get it in 
> the perfect position, and even then, it would slightly rub on the chain, 
> especially when riding hard “out of the saddle” which would create 
> chainring flex.  So I had to find a new solution.
>
>  
>
> My new solution was to cover both sides of the chain independently.  For 
> the inside, I used an N-Gear Jump Stop.  I haven’t ever had any issues with 
> the chain falling off to the inside, but the Jump Stop gives me piece of 
> mind.  For the outside, I installed a bashguard.  I don’t think that just 
> any bashguard will do, it needs to be as thin and small as possible.  
> Here’s why:  I never changed my bottom bracket, so the chainring is not 
> perfectly centered on the cassette cogs.  Ideally, I probably should have 
> installed a slightly longer bottom bracket to get better chainline, but in 
> my setup, when “cross-chained” from the 34t chainring to the small 12t cog, 
> the chain has a bit of an angle, and a big bashguard would rub.  So I put 
> on a ‘SuperLight’ Bashguard from BBG bashguards, size 36 (just slightly 
> bigger than the chainring).  This bashguard is half the thickness of a 
> chainring.  I then used washers inside the bashguard, to get it just a bit 
> further away from the chain.  This has worked great; no rubbing, and no 
> drops of the chain under any conditions so far.
>
>  
>
> Can you just leave the front derailler in place, instead of messing round 
> with these chain protectors?  Probably, but then you would have still have 
> to be ‘trimming’ the derailler using your left hand to prevent rubbing.  In 
> my setup, the left hand does nothing except braking now.
>
>  
>
> One other thing I did was take a few links out of the chain, since it 
> never leaves the 34t chainring (it used to have to be long enough to 
> accommodate the 48t chainring).
>
>  
>
> The experience has been fun, I don’t see myself returning to a 
> multi-chainring setup anytime soon. In my smallest gearing (34t chainring & 
> 32t cog), it is doable to climb most hills, and in my top gearing (12t 
> cog), it is fast enough for all the flats and moderate descents.  On steep 
> descents, I do find that it will “spin out”, but that usually just tells me 
> that I’m going fast enough for my own safety, no need to go faster by 
> pedaling.
>
>  
>
> I hope that this is helpful to anyone thinking about making the switch to 
> 1x this year.
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for bike repair books?

[RoadieRyan]

+1 on Zinn mines got lots of greasy finger prints on it..

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[RBW] Re: ISO: 32t or 34t 7 speed freewheel. Any good options?

[RoadieRyan]

I agree with Patrick, I like a more graduated gearing rather than 10 tooth 
jump the mega range offers.  I have used IRDs and like them and yes you 
will pay more but you might not have as many "moments of regret" from 
failed shifts or dropped chains when using the mega range.  I find if you 
shop around you can usually find a decent deal on the IRD's- under $50  Yes 
it will still be 3x expensive as the Shimano mega range but you get what 
you pay for.

Ryan "Even range" Surface

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:56:56 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Ladies and gents-
>
> I'm looking for a new freewheel.  7 speed, for use on a Phil hub on my Riv 
> Road Standard.
>
> For touring, I want lower cogs than the 13-28 I have on there now.  The 
> Microshift rear derailer (bought from Riv!) will handle a 36t max cog and 
> pick up the chain for my 50/40/30 Campy triple just fine.
>
> So far, I see the following options.  Anyone know of more?  Thanks for 
> your advice!
>
> *Shimano* FW723 "Mega Range" 14/ 16/ 18/ 20/ 22/ 24/ 34
> $14
> + Cheap!
> - Ugly (zinc finish with huge black "mega range" 34t cog)
>
> *Dimension* 13/ 15/ 17/ 21/ 24/ 28/ 32
> $42
> + Shiny nickel plating
> - Not cheap!  3 Shimanos at this price
>
> *IRD* Defiant 13/ 15/ 17/ 21/ 24/ 28/ 32
> $56
> + Shiny nickel plating
> + USA company.  MUSA freewheel?
> - Not cheap!  4 Shimanos at this price
>
> Gearing:  
> Which is better?  Riding: touring with 220 lb rider and ~30lb of gear.
> 14/ 16/ 18/ 20/ 22/ 24/ 34 starts fat, ramps slowly, then massive bailout 
> cog.  
> 13/ 15/ 17/ 21/ 24/ 28/ 32 starts medium, ramps moderately, has two, 
> smaller bailout gears (28/32)
>
> Thanks,
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>

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[RBW] Re: New Rack for Monseiur Blériot

[RoadieRyan]

c'est magnifique!

On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:08:52 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Just got done installing a Velo Orange "Constructeur" rack on Monsieur 
> Blériot: 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157640231227834/ 
>
> The rack is nicely made of polished stainless steel, and mimics the 
> appearance of the smallish racks often installed on classic randoneurring 
> bikes. I plan to use it to carry extra gear on long brevets and an upcoming 
> three-day ride. 
>
> Installation went smoothly, except for the part where I created a problem 
> for myself by cutting the mounting tabs too short. A trip to a local bike 
> shop and the hardware store later, and I was able to fashion some extenders 
> to get the rack in the right place. 
>
> The small reflector on the back is held by a tiny bracket that in turn is 
> held on the rack via a built-in mounting point. The reflector itself is an 
> old-fashioned but new item from another project that never came to 
> fruition. 
>
> With the rack in place, the only other addition I plan to make is to 
> install a set of Magnic headlights. That will come later in the year, 
> probably for a 400K brevet in March. 
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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[RBW] Re: Finally chased down and purchased the bike (frame) I wanted when I was 16

[RoadieRyan]

That is a beauty, enjoy the build process I imagine once its done you will 
have miles of smiles

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:25:24 PM UTC-8, Mark Guglielmana wrote:
>
> Looking for a frame builder/painter in the SF Bay Area. Ed Litton I 
> already know, any other recommendations?
>
> I've attached the picture for those that can't see the image in my 
> original post.
>

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[RBW] Re: The Windsor Rides!

[RoadieRyan]

Beautiful resurrection job Bill!  that is one sweet looking ride.  I agree 
on the Center-pull brakes, I have become such a fan that when I build my 
next "dream" steel bike I am thinking going with the Modern Dia-Compe 610s. 
 Enjoy the ride

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:29:48 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> I got my pop's Windsor into rideable condition last night.  I rode it 
> around the block and I'm extremely pleased so far.  The real highlight is 
> that the 40 year old Dia Compe centerpull brakes have extraordinary braking 
> power.  I'm really really impressed.  It's not done in my mind until the 
> racks and fenders are on, but getting it to rideable was a big step.  The 
> racks ought to be in soon, maybe tomorrow, and then I'll be able to do the 
> rack and fender install.  Even without racks, the Saddlesack Medium fits, 
> so this bike is S24O ready.  It's full Alba-smile worthy.
>
> Imperfection side story.  I was so thrilled how the bar tape looked with 
> clear shellac.  I ran out of clear and rushed down to the hardware store.  
> They were down to their last can of clear, and that can was kind of banged 
> up.  It had splatter and drips on it, but it seemed full when I shook it.  
> Whatever.  I bought it and have done a couple more coats of "clear".  It's 
> looking more amber, and the one side that I first did with clear looks 
> lighter than the side that got three coats of this tainted can.  Oh well, 
> we're making memories (as my mom always says)!  
>
> 
>
>
> Tons of 
> Photos
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Which size Zefal HPX for my 52 Sam?

[RoadieRyan]

13.5" fully compressed although this pump is meant to be mounted via a 
water-bottle mount

On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:37:04 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
>
> Hi Roadie Ryan,
>>
> Is it under 12" long? 
>

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[RBW] Which size Zefal HPX for my 52 Sam?

[RoadieRyan]

Michael, if you wanted to go a slightly different route I have a NIB Zefal HPX 
light that mounts to the water bottle bosses. If interested I would let it go 
for $15 plus s&h (med flat rate box) you can ping me off list at 
ryansub...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot, the Hat

[RoadieRyan]

You might check out the selections over at Walz 
http://www.walzcaps.com/caps_wool-earflap.html 

On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:45:29 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Alas, it doesn't seem to be available any more. Perhaps Grant can bring it 
> back? 
>
> http://fifocycle.blogspot.com/2010/12/new-hats-for-icy-winds.html 
>
>
> Eric N 
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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[RBW] Re: Monsieur Bleriot Flies Again!

[RoadieRyan]

Allez Allez Allez!

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:18:20 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Thought the group might enjoy this latest addition to my Bike Room: 
>
> http://flic.kr/p/jcVhUQ 
>
> --Eric Norris 
> Email: campyo...@me.com  
> Web: www.campyonly.com 
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[RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

[RoadieRyan]

I was going to say if your using friction it shouldn't matter but all these 
wise folks with you exact set up already chimed in

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Misc. parts for a San Marcos build

[RoadieRyan]

Peter I have a lightly used 11-34t  9 speed cassette I could let go of for 
10 bucks plus shipping, I think it will ship via small flat rate so about 
$6.  Contact me at ryansub...@gmail.com if that works for you.

Ryan

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:41:29 AM UTC-8, PeterG wrote:
>
> Looking for some parts for a new to me San Marcos Frame/Fork:
> Brake: Shimano Tiagra sidepulls
> 9 speed cassette (11-32 or 11-34)...
> Sugino crank: wide/low double (40t x 26t)...thinking I might save a little 
> weight going double, but not sure
> Deraillers: Shimano cx70 Front & Shimano deore rear derailler
> Possibly a lightish wheelset for my jack browns...(130mm rear spacing) all 
> my other sets are 135mm spacing & wont fit...
>
> Frame/Fork was a Christmas present. Thinking of making this into a 
> light-ish bike with albatross and bar end shifters.
> Looking for used but lots of life left parts. Don't really have the cash 
> to buy all new. The frame is killing me just sitting here looking at me 
> waiting to be builtArgg
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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

[RoadieRyan]

Beautiful- wow that is a great looking bike.  Enjoy the ride

On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
>
> Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my 
> command .
>
> I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of downtube shifter bosses 
> and a seat stay-mounted chain hanger to keep the chain secure when the rear 
> wheel is removed like 80's steel bikes used to have. The lead time was 
> about 4 months even with added braze-on.
>
> This frame really is beautiful in person. The clichè that pictures don't 
> do justice is true here. They call it white, but it's actually an 
> off-white, almost cream color in person and it looks great with the red 
> accents!
>
> The build will begin Saturday and I'll try to take some pictures of the 
> progress.
>
> Regards-
> Paul
>

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[RBW] Re: Brunch Ride to Sacramento with my Bleriot - a set on Flickr

[RoadieRyan]

Eric you need to get some more profile pics of that beautiful Bleriot!

On Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:12:06 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Monsieur Bleriot visited Sacramento again:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639170958343/
>
> --Eric
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[RBW] Re: Bleriot First Ride

[RoadieRyan]

Eric 

Beautiful set up, that frame looks brand new.  The Bleriot has special 
place in my heart as it is the bike I found some place on the web years ago 
that eventually led me to the Riv site and started my conversion from a guy 
who thought he just had to have a Carbon bike so he could go "fast" to one 
who appreciates the beauty and utility of a lugged steel bike, and riding 
to put a smile on my face rather than trying setting a new course record. 
 Gotta find me a nice 57 cm Bleriot one of these days.   Enjoy your new 
ride man.

On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:39:43 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Here are a few quick shots of my new-to-me Bleriot:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157639017448075/
>
> This comes to me from Chris in North Dakota. I added a Brooks saddle and 
> fenders, changed the bar tape from green to leathery brown, swapped the 
> Nifty Swifty tires for a set of Col de la Vies, and put on an alloy 
> crankset that Santa brought me. The Carradice seat bag was sitting in the 
> closet, waiting for a bike to go on.
>
> So far, so good. The ride is definitely plush, although I'm not convinced 
> that it isn't a tad slower than a similarly equipped 700C bicycle.
>
> Merry Christmas, and congrats to everyone who is trying out new bike stuff 
> today!
>
> --Eric
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> www.wheelsnorth.org
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> Twitter: @campyonlyguy
>  
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[RBW] Re: FS: 1992 Bridgestone XO-3

[RoadieRyan]

When folks are asking $200 on CL for rusty "all original" (dry rotted 
tires, rusty cables, etc) Schwinn Varsities then $180 for a nice  BStone, 
low end or not, is a deal.

On Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:28:28 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Now now, Shawn :)  $180 is a fair price, and that's a nice bike. The '94 
> TIGed 700c XO-4 is pretty sweet, too, and quite rare. I've never seen one 
> other than new-at-the-dealer back in the day. 
>
> On Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:15:19 PM UTC-8, Shawn Granton wrote:
>>
>> Hey, no bashing the 1992 XO-3! Yes, yes, it was the low end of the 92 
>> XOs, TIG welded (gasp!) and with 700C wheels (double gasp!) Yes, yes, it 
>> will never be as cool as the 26" wheeled XOs. As for "resembling the rash 
>> of hybrids", it clearly stated in the 92 catalog that it was "Better than 
>> your average hybrid" and we all know that Grant can't/don't lie. Yes, yes, 
>> will never command the great prices of an XO-1 or even 2, but I paid $180 
>> for my used one and it's been worth every penny. I just rode the heck out 
>> of mine today. And it cleans up pretty nice.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> All in love,
>> Shawn
>>
>> http://urbanadventureleague.blogspot.com/
>> http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland
>> http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ 
>> P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle, Bag, Pump, Pedals and Wool Jersey

[RoadieRyan]

Ok turns out the flatter Medium box fits the Brooks Imperial in its 
packaging like a glove so an update the Imperial ships for $12.50 rather 
than 16.85.

Also the Nitto 100% wool Jersey is still available,  When I looked around 
online the only place to still have them is Soma and they only have the 
extreme sizes in stock -XS and XXL.

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:13:00 AM UTC-8, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> Update the Pump, Pedals and bag have been claimed
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:02:53 PM UTC-8, RoadieRyan wrote:
>>
>> I am cleaning out some odds and sods before the holidays, all of these 
>> are either barely used or are still NIB.
>>
>>
>>1. 
>>
>>*Carradice Barley saddlebag* –Green.  (Retail $120) with *Bagman 2 
>>support* (retail $45) .  I mounted these to a bike and put maybe 20 
>>miles on it before removing them so they are virtually new.  Asking $90 
>> for 
>>both bag and support, shipping via USPS flat rate large box is $16.85
>>2. 
>>
>>*Brooks Imperial Brown NIB* (Retail $125-150) Never been removed from 
>>packaging.  Asking $100.  I can ship this via a USPS large box for $16.85 
>> if I remove the saddle from its original packaging. If you want it in 
>> the 
>>original brooks box let me know and I will get you a shipping quote.
>>3. 
>>
>>*Nitto SS XL 100% wool jersey* (retail $90).  I have worn this jersey 
>>twice and washed it delicate/cold cycle and laid it flat to dry.  Its in 
>>great shape.  Asking $60 and it will ship via USPS padded envelope for 
>> $5.95
>>4. 
>>
>>*Shimano  PD-M324 NIB *(retail $50-80). These have never been removed 
>>from the box, asking $35.  If I take them out of the packaging I can ship 
>>them via USPS small flat rate box for $5.80.
>>5. 
>>
>>*Leyzene Pressure Drive pump-Red (*retail $35).  I really like these 
>>pumps they are small but generate good pressure and work on either presta 
>>or shraeder . They also fit easily in a bag or Jersey pocket.  I have one 
>>on my main bike but sold the bike I had this one for.  Other than 
>> rattling 
>>around in a bag it might have inflated one tire.  Full disclosure I am 
>>including the plastic water bottle mount but one one of the plastic screw 
>>holes is broken.  I think it can be made to work with a couple washers 
>>sandwiching it but wanted to be upfront that it might be a loss.  Asking 
>>$15, it would ship via small USPS flat rate box for $5.80
>>
>> Pictures here 
>> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/sets/72157638359753473/>and 
>> please contact me off list for more info at ryansub...@gmail.com.  I 
>> will ship in US only and accept cash or paypal.  Thanks for looking.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle, Bag, Pump, Pedals and Wool Jersey

[RoadieRyan]

Update the Pump, Pedals and bag have been claimed

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:02:53 PM UTC-8, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> I am cleaning out some odds and sods before the holidays, all of these are 
> either barely used or are still NIB.
>
>
>1. 
>
>*Carradice Barley saddlebag* –Green.  (Retail $120) with *Bagman 2 
>support* (retail $45) .  I mounted these to a bike and put maybe 20 
>miles on it before removing them so they are virtually new.  Asking $90 
> for 
>both bag and support, shipping via USPS flat rate large box is $16.85
>2. 
>
>*Brooks Imperial Brown NIB* (Retail $125-150) Never been removed from 
>packaging.  Asking $100.  I can ship this via a USPS large box for $16.85 
> if I remove the saddle from its original packaging. If you want it in the 
>original brooks box let me know and I will get you a shipping quote.
>3. 
>
>*Nitto SS XL 100% wool jersey* (retail $90).  I have worn this jersey 
>twice and washed it delicate/cold cycle and laid it flat to dry.  Its in 
>great shape.  Asking $60 and it will ship via USPS padded envelope for 
> $5.95
>4. 
>
>*Shimano  PD-M324 NIB *(retail $50-80). These have never been removed 
>from the box, asking $35.  If I take them out of the packaging I can ship 
>them via USPS small flat rate box for $5.80.
>5. 
>
>*Leyzene Pressure Drive pump-Red (*retail $35).  I really like these 
>pumps they are small but generate good pressure and work on either presta 
>or shraeder . They also fit easily in a bag or Jersey pocket.  I have one 
>on my main bike but sold the bike I had this one for.  Other than rattling 
>around in a bag it might have inflated one tire.  Full disclosure I am 
>including the plastic water bottle mount but one one of the plastic screw 
>holes is broken.  I think it can be made to work with a couple washers 
>sandwiching it but wanted to be upfront that it might be a loss.  Asking 
>$15, it would ship via small USPS flat rate box for $5.80
>
> Pictures here 
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/sets/72157638359753473/>and 
> please contact me off list for more info at ryansub...@gmail.com.  I will 
> ship in US only and accept cash or paypal.  Thanks for looking.
>
> Ryan
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Saddle, Bag, Pump, Pedals and Wool Jersey

[RoadieRyan]

On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:02:53 PM UTC-8, RoadieRyan wrote:
>
> I am cleaning out some odds and sods before the holidays, all of these are 
> either barely used or are still NIB.
>
>
>1. 
>
>*Carradice Barley saddlebag* –Green.  (Retail $120) with *Bagman 2 
>support* (retail $45) .  I mounted these to a bike and put maybe 20 
>miles on it before removing them so they are virtually new.  Asking $90 
> for 
>both bag and support, shipping via USPS flat rate large box is $16.85
>2. 
>
>*Brooks Imperial Brown NIB* (Retail $125-150) Never been removed from 
>packaging.  Asking $100.  I can ship this via a USPS large box for $16.85 
> if I remove the saddle from its original packaging. If you want it in the 
>original brooks box let me know and I will get you a shipping quote.
>3. 
>
>*Nitto SS XL 100% wool jersey* (retail $90).  I have worn this jersey 
>twice and washed it delicate/cold cycle and laid it flat to dry.  Its in 
>great shape.  Asking $60 and it will ship via USPS padded envelope for 
> $5.95
>4. 
>
>*Shimano  PD-M324 NIB *(retail $50-80). These have never been removed 
>from the box, asking $35.  Platform one on side and SPD on the other.   If 
>I take them out of the packaging I can ship them via USPS small flat rate 
>box for $5.80.
>5. 
>
>*Leyzene Pressure Drive pump-Red (*retail $35).  I really like these 
>pumps they are small but generate good pressure and work on either presta 
>or shraeder . They also fit easily in a bag or Jersey pocket.  I have one 
>on my main bike but sold the bike I had this one for.  Other than rattling 
>around in a bag it might have inflated one tire.  Full disclosure I am 
>including the plastic water bottle mount but one one of the plastic screw 
>holes is broken.  I think it can be made to work with a couple washers 
>sandwiching it but wanted to be upfront that it might be a loss.  Asking 
>$15, it would ship via small USPS flat rate box for $5.80
>
> Pictures here 
> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryans_rando/sets/72157638359753473/>and 
> please contact me off list for more info at ryansub...@gmail.com.  I will 
> ship in US only and accept cash or paypal.  Thanks for looking.
>
> Ryan
>

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[RBW] FS: Saddle, Bag, Pump, Pedals and Wool Jersey

[RoadieRyan]

I am cleaning out some odds and sods before the holidays, all of these are 
either barely used or are still NIB.


   1. 
   
   *Carradice Barley saddlebag* –Green.  (Retail $120) with *Bagman 2 
   support* (retail $45) .  I mounted these to a bike and put maybe 20 
   miles on it before removing them so they are virtually new.  Asking $90 for 
   both bag and support, shipping via USPS flat rate large box is $16.85
   2. 
   
   *Brooks Imperial Brown NIB* (Retail $125-150) Never been removed from 
   packaging.  Asking $100.  I can ship this via a USPS large box for $16.85 
if I remove the saddle from its original packaging. If you want it in the 
   original brooks box let me know and I will get you a shipping quote.
   3. 
   
   *Nitto SS XL 100% wool jersey* (retail $90).  I have worn this jersey 
   twice and washed it delicate/cold cycle and laid it flat to dry.  Its in 
   great shape.  Asking $60 and it will ship via USPS padded envelope for $5.95
   4. 
   
   *Shimano  PD-M324 NIB *(retail $50-80). These have never been removed 
   from the box, asking $35.  If I take them out of the packaging I can ship 
   them via USPS small flat rate box for $5.80.
   5. 
   
   *Leyzene Pressure Drive pump-Red (*retail $35).  I really like these 
   pumps they are small but generate good pressure and work on either presta 
   or shraeder . They also fit easily in a bag or Jersey pocket.  I have one 
   on my main bike but sold the bike I had this one for.  Other than rattling 
   around in a bag it might have inflated one tire.  Full disclosure I am 
   including the plastic water bottle mount but one one of the plastic screw 
   holes is broken.  I think it can be made to work with a couple washers 
   sandwiching it but wanted to be upfront that it might be a loss.  Asking 
   $15, it would ship via small USPS flat rate box for $5.80
   
Pictures here 
and 
please contact me off list for more info at ryansub...@gmail.com.  I will 
ship in US only and accept cash or paypal.  Thanks for looking.

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Interloc Racing Design Defiant 50-34t Compact Road Double Crank

[RoadieRyan]

Riv does its just (shocker) a bit unconventional - the 40/26 Sugino XD2 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/cr7.htm  

Velo Orange offers a nice 48/34t   in standard  
and
 
Grand 
Cru
 finish

On Monday, December 2, 2013 5:06:11 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I have found a 16 tooth difference between rings unsatisfactory on two 
> counts.  First, when I shift between rings, the next gear I am looking for 
> is somewhere at the other end of the cluster, and the wider the range of 
> the cluster the more difficult it is to find that gear.  A lot of momentum 
> is lost on hills while I search for it.  Second, front detailers will shift 
> 16 teeth,  but they don't really like it and tend to do it slowly.  More 
> momentum loss.  I have found  better ways to get a wider range double 
> without these problems.  First option is a 48/34, which will shift much 
> faster and put the next gear exactly two cogs away.  The 12/48 is plenty 
> big enough for everything short of hi end field sprints.  Better yet is a 
> 44/30 with an 11-28 cluster.  the 44/11 is the same as a 48/12 and the 
> 30/28 is only a half gear higher that  34/34.  This combination offers a 
> cleaner shifting pattern and more closely spaced gears.  I also find I 
> actually have less need to shift the front at all, although my Campy 
> derailler does it so effortlessly that I never hesitate.  I have also found 
> that this combination works very well with the new Shimano RD short cage, 
> which greatly improves friction shifting.   I am using the White VCB crank 
> on my Ram and really like it, but you can also get a 44/30 with a number of 
> cranks that offer 94 spiders - DaVinci sells one (made by White Ind) and of 
> course the beautiful, but expensive TA Carmina.  I wish RBW offered a good, 
> sensible compact double. (hint, hint)
>
> Michael 
>
> On Friday, November 29, 2013 4:24:27 PM UTC-5, Tom Virgil wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Interloc website 
>> Any experience or guidance on this crankset.  The alternative is a Sugino 
>> Alpina compact.
>>
>> Here is the VeloORANGE take 
>> on 
>> their VO branded variant versus the Aplina.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendale "Hunqapillar" Re-finish powder coat completed

[RoadieRyan]

I will just add to the chorus - beautiful work the details on the Hunqa are 
stunning!

If I ever come across my dream 1970s Motobecane I will keep you guys in 
mind.

Ryan West Seattle
On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:13:50 AM UTC-8, Addison wrote:
>
> Hi David. 
>
> I'm very glad you posted about this on the list.  I'm not thrilled with 
> the lock PC options. What's your turnaround time like?  Just generally. 
>  I'm thinking a stealth gray for myMB-2 might be in order. 
>
> Thanks again. 
>
> Addison
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:20 PM, David Rainey > 
> wrote:
>
> Mike, yes, that is our company.  I didn't post the name because I didn't 
> want people thinking I was spamming...but yes, that is our company. We have 
> been doing bike refinishing and restoration for many years.  
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:49:44 PM UTC-6, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> a little google search...https://www.facebook.com/GroodyBros
>>
>> very nice job too.  I prefer one color paint jobs myself.  Simple and 
>> elegant.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>>
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[RBW] OT but brings a tear to my eye

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Wow

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

[RoadieRyan]

As others have said a work stand for sure worth every penny.

with two Y wrenches; hex (4 5 6mm) and socket (8 9 10) I can just about 
take apart an entire bike. My favorite tools.

I am usually a less is more kind of guy, but when it comes to bearing 
grease more is better.  I have found the factory built wheels I sometimes 
use on old 10 speed rebuilds are miserly with the grease, sigh, do not 
skimp on bearing grease.

The most important thing I have ever learned- when you get frustrated with 
your buildwalk away..cool down...come back later.  Never ceases to 
amaze how much clearer a calm head sees.  


Ryan in West Seattle





On Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:41:23 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Put something meaningful on your bike. To make it your own.
> Leafs. Twine. Ring. whatever 
>
> On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, 
>> quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when 
>> building up a new bike out replacing components...?
>>
>> I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
>> products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
>> work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
>> Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
>> and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
>> the frame.
>>
>> I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
>> starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
>> available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
>> without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
>> configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
>> even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
>> add thickness in other places.
>>
>> What do you have!?!
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

[RoadieRyan]

Bill, my first reaction to the diacompe rack was also - it's so tiny it's cute. 
Ended up using it as a basket support on my sister-in-laws bike.

I have been refurbishing old 10 speeds for the last few years and have found 
center pulls as good or better than side pulls.

Ryan S

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[RBW] Re: Aspen Gold 3-day trip

[RoadieRyan]

I will echo what the others have said those pictures are stunning - chapeau 
to your Daughter

On Thursday, October 3, 2013 5:48:41 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> As my wife reminded me upon my return, I've been trying to get out and 
> immerse myself in Colorado's glorious aspen colors for over five years, but 
> my brain or daughters births prevented it. Not this year!
>
> The spot will look familiar to you if you've been gracious to view other 
> trips -- but not these colors. Wow. Visual symphony of color. Glowing gold 
> and orange with brilliant deep blue sky above and deep rich evergreen 
> dappled around and behind with grasses of tan and rust all combine to 
> delight the eye and feed the soul.
>
> I base camped, having a lazy ride in as my family hiked in (more technical 
> than they all like to ride -- yet) to spend the day with me before they 
> departed back home (we don't yet have gear for everyone for the 20˚F 
> nights). They departed in the late afternoon of day one and I settled in 
> for a few days of solitude and brain cushion recovery.
>
> Day 2, I woke at dawn, though the sun would still be 2 hours peaking over 
> the hill (what I get for camping on the west side of a 14,000 peak!). My 
> choices were to be lazy in my warm bag or get up and ride myself warm. I 
> rode. Climbing that next ridge will always warm you up! Once I couldn't 
> ride up the steep trail of Sentinel, I tied off the Hunqapillar and hoofed 
> it the rest of the way to the tundra. Amazing views of the Sangre de Cristo 
> and Collegiante ranges, as well as Lost Creek Wilderness, and South Park. 
> After returning to my bike, I felt good so headed to Horsethief Falls, 
> getting back to camp about 5pm. Standard day's food for dinner of beef 
> jerky, butter, and dried potatoes.
>
> Day three: a leisurely breakdown of camp as I wanted things to thaw/dry 
> before I hauled out extra weight, then up and over the three ridges before 
> the trail ended and I rode Edlow road and Hwy 24 back home.
>
> Amazing trip and my brain has a bit more cushion again! We'll see if the 
> snow allows more overnight trips or not this year. 
>
> My second eldest daughter had a blast taking photos of me riding, and she 
> has a real artistic eye emerging. 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157636166222556/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>  
>

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[RBW] '80s Peugeot built for off road riding, limited Riv content

[RoadieRyan]

Tom,  I always like to see stories about getting classic steel bikes back on 
the road.  It's always a bit surprising how much clearance a lot the 10/12 
speeds have, I have run 37mm with fenders on a vintage Nishiki, Chapeau on your 
build. I especially like the use of the Nexus rear hub.

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: A weekend in the Methow Valley

[RoadieRyan]

I have camped many times at the North Cascades Ranger station in 
Marblemount and hiked around Diablo and Colonial creek areas but have never 
ridden my bike there - its on the bucket list.  Looks like you had a great 
time and wonderful early fall weather.

On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:33:50 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> A group of 7 friends and I took a long weekend trip to the Methow Valley 
> in the North Cascades of Washington. Long before I got a Betty Foy, I 
> dreamed of riding single track, but couldn't find much locally that wasn't 
> very technical trails that required mountain bikes. My friend Kay, a 
> seasoned mountain bike enthusiast, ensured me that the blue trails in the 
> Okanogan National Forest would be a piece of cake for the Betty Foy, and 
> she was right. 
>
> Here's a map of where we rode: 
> http://www.mvsta.com//images/sunmap_summer.jpg
>
> It was my first time doing riding of this sort, and it took some getting 
> used to. The trail was a mixture of large loose gravel, sandy soil, mud, 
> and pine needles over hard packed dirt. To make matters worse, the 
> osteoarthritis in my right knee really flared up a couple of days before 
> the trip, and unfortunately the cortisone shot I had the day before my 
> departure didn't do much for the inflammation. I was undaunted though.
>
> Friday morning dawned cool with cerulean blue skies with nary a cloud in 
> sight. The layer of cool air was fairly shallow, because by the time we got 
> our bikes unloaded from the car, things had warmed up enough for me to go 
> on without a jacket. 
>
> We combined the Beaver Pond and Rodeo trails to do a loop around Beaver 
> Lake. I had some trouble finding the right gear to match the ground 
> conditions at first, but after about the first 20 minutes I seemed to get 
> the hang of things. The only times I had to get off my bike were to push up 
> a couple of short, steep inclines I didn't change gears quickly enough for, 
> and to scale down a "rock garden" incline that Kay thought might be a bit 
> much for a novice rider on Soma New Express tires. 
>
> Because I got out to the country and put the Betty Foy through her paces, 
> I feel as if I'm finally a part of the Rivendell club. I'm sad to say that 
> the summer single track season is rapidly coming to a close, but there's 
> always next year!
>
> Here are a few photos from the weekend. We stopped a lot on the way to 
> Winthrop, and were particularly taken with the views from Washington Pass. 
> There's a photo of me riding singletrack in the set from the weekend: 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/sets/72157635790163246/
>

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[RBW] Re: Back to Earth 2

[RoadieRyan]

Very nice loved the trip by bike and the union suit ;-) makes me realize I 
need to S24O soon !

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:33:35 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> A couple of months ago, my buddy Jesus Beltran of Zumpango Films and I 
> went on a S240 to Half Moon Bay.
> You can read about it here.
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjGmF74X
>
> Again, Chin did a great job capturing the general feel for the whole ride. 
>
> "Not all great adventures are memorable for the things you want it to be. "
>
> Video proved that Chin filmed it.
> http://vimeo.com/zumpangofilms/backtoearthtwo
>
>
> -Manny "There's another one?!" Acosta
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

[RoadieRyan]

It goes against "Doctrine" but I like bib shorts in particular Castelli or 
DeMarchi, I find wool boxer briefs with MUSA shorts fine for rides under 20 
miles but for the longer stuff I go to the bibs.  I hear great things about 
Ibex wool blend bibs and intend to try them some day.  As for Jerseys 5 
years ago it was basically 100% poly blend in my closet and now its nearly 
all Merino wool jerseys/polos/t shirts love stuff and can't really imagine 
wearing a poly jersey again.

Ryan

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:26:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>
> What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or 
> English, etc.
>  
> I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from 
> Walnut Creek.
>  
> But I just cannot go more than 20 miles in regular pants without 
> sweat-soaked undergarments just squeaking away against my flesh like a 
> squeegee. Ouch!!
>  
> I use LBS padded shorts for long rides but looking for something with a 
> thicker pad and maybe bigger in the back for my upright Alba riding 
> posture, since that puts more sitting area on the rear of the rear, so to 
> speak.
>  
> Thanks for any advice.
>

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[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

[RoadieRyan]

Your Mileage my vary but my experience was I needed two sets of cork grips 
to get one set successfully mounted, and the instructions that talked about 
gluing them onto the bars... HA  I had to *grease *the bars to get the 
$#)!@ things mounted.   Granted once they were mounted and had a coat of 
shellac they did look pretty darn good .  My Advice - take it slow, have a 
second set available, and don't use any glue until you have at least done a 
dry fit.  More likely you will need some grease.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:34:11 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>
> Hi Y'all,
>  
> Getting ready to put cork grips on my Albas and was wondering what 
> everyone uses and how long you have to wait after applying to ride on them. 
> Thanks for the info.
>

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[RBW] Re: Cork grips glue suggestions?

[RoadieRyan]

Your Mileage my vary but my experience was I need to sets of cork grips to 
get one set successfully mounted, and the instructions that talked about 
gluing them onto the bars... HA  I had to grease the bars to get the $#)!@ 
things mounted.   Granted once they were mounted and had a coat of shellac 
they did look pretty darn good .  My Advice - take it slow, have a second 
set available, and don't use an glue until you have at least done a dry 
fit.  More likely you will need some grease.

Ryan

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:34:11 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>
> Hi Y'all,
>  
> Getting ready to put cork grips on my Albas and was wondering what 
> everyone uses and how long you have to wait after applying to ride on them. 
> Thanks for the info.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

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I just pretend, with the Brooks creak, that I'm an old cowhand from the Rio 
Grande

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[RBW] Riv'ed LHT

[RoadieRyan]

Nicely done good to start small and build up. I wanted a Riv and started with a 
Handsome devil, very close in spec to the LHT, love the Devil and still want a 
Riv.  Enjoy riding with your bro that's the important piece.

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: San Juan Islands Tour Advice

[RoadieRyan]

As a West Seattleite I will say that  there can be some good riding from 
Southworth to Port Orchard but I think the Interurban trail to Whibey 
Island was a good choice by Adam as it more directly gets them to good 
Island riding.  Enjoy Adam

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:15:09 PM UTC-7, samh wrote:
>
> > I would love to hear any feedback about our routes that would be 
> helpful as well 
>
> What's your thinking on not taking the ferry west from Seattle?  Is there 
> actually a good route north from Seattle?
>

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[RBW] Re: New-to-Me Saluki

[RoadieRyan]

Sweet build - nice levers ;-)

On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:38:02 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
>
> Congrats on the new bike Michael. It looks great. 
>
> --mike
>
>

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