[RBW] FS: 59cm Legolas Full Bike

[William Henderson]

This is my dream bike for adventure riding in Oregon. As you probably know, 
these don't come up very often – I sought after one for many years before I 
finally found the frame right here on this list. 

I have built the bike up slowly, acquiring exactly the parts I imagined 
would complete a perfect build. This includes:
- Velocity quill rims laced to a Shutter Precision dynamo front hub & 
titanium body Dura Ace fh-7900 rear
- Busch Mueller IQ-x front lamp, micro rear
- Paul Minimoto brakes
- Nitto soba bars with TRP RRL SR levers
- Mix of Sun, Shimano, Nitto parts
- Brooks Swallow Titanium saddle

Alas, soon after I finally got it dialed in to perfection, my whole life 
changed. I now need to sell this bike, and I hope it will go to someone who 
loves it as much as I do. Asking $3400 plus shipping from Portland, Oregon.

Photos and full build details are available here:
https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d

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Re: [RBW] Re: On Topic / Off Topic

[William Henderson]

What I observed was a really reasonable, civil topic highlighting BLM and an 
fundraising effort that Jan is making with Bicycle Quarterly. Maybe I missed 
something inflammatory in it, but the email is now lost (along with the link ( 
https://www.renehersecycles.com/a-small-thing-bq-fund-drive-to-benefit-black-lives-matter/
 ) ).

Like others, I want this to remain a civil community. However, I find the 
judgement call about what is "on topic" problematic. If this is about civility, 
let's focus on that and not muddy the waters with any other areas for 
subjectivity.

Here are some different actions that could be taken:

- Write a code of conduct for the group and post it as a sticky post. Be clear 
about what constitutes uncivil behavior, what kinds of topics are explicitly 
disallowed, and what the consequences are when someone breaks the rules.

- When it comes to deleting threads, I think it's really important to preserve 
the thread so that people can see how the code is being enforced. This provides 
accountability in both directions. The obvious exception would be for threads 
or messages that are hateful or abusive. I'd suggest a policy like this:

* When someone posts something uncivil, it will be deleted.

* When someone posts something about a topic that is explicitly disallowed, the 
thread will be locked (but not deleted) along with a reminder about the code of 
conduct.

* When someone posts something that isn't uncivil seems like it could be taking 
the thread in that direction, the thread will be locked (but not deleted) along 
with a personal statement from the moderator about them making the call to shut 
it down in order to protect the community sense of safety and civility.

Again, this is ultimately your community Jim and you have the power & 
responsibility to make the call here. The rest of us have the power & 
responsibility to make sure that we are participating in a community that is 
compatible with our core values.

William

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> 
> 
> Thank you for your thoughtful post, Franklyn. I agree that race is an
> in-bounds topic here, but name-calling is unacceptable and
> counter-persuasive. I’ve seen more people bend away from their reflexive
> answers in the last few days than ever before on the internet, and only in
> response to kindness while explaining a different perspective.
> 
> 
> 
> I’m sorry that stuff happens to you. It sounds much worse than my
> experience with people in cars who feel I’m a just target for being on
> “their” roads. I’m glad you persist in riding. I also particularly enjoy
> your photos of Berkeley views.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Blahg No. 21 & Instagram post Sam brake cable thing?

[William Henderson]

If you were gonna do a single disc brake retro fit it’d be much better to 
replace the fork and put it up front... the so-called “mullet” treatment.

William
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> 
> I'm definitely wrong, but I say he's going to finagle a disc drag brake in
> there cuz there must be one around the shop from a HubbuhHubbuh. Do it,
> Roman!
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

[William Henderson]

I don't think anyone here is making the case that racing bikes with skinny 
tires should have disc brakes.

William
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> Yes, Jan Heine wrote a post about that. In the first year that TdF riders
> were allowed to use disc brakes, they used them in just one TT stage, and
> only then because of pressure from the manufacturers.
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

[William Henderson]

They could create a mullet option – an optional disc fork for $100 more, 
standard frame with rim brakes in the back. Most of the practical benefits of 
disc brakes come from the front end, and the resulting irreverence and lack of 
symmetry would be quite Rivendellian IMO.

William
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> At this point all disc talk is howling at the moon, the bike has v-brakes.
> If it sells well everybody wins, and I hope it does.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cargo e-bikes are an amazing concept, but the options are imperfect

[William Henderson]

Another plus one on the center stand. Xtracycle has this nailed. This is 
probably the worst thing about the Tern, but thankfully there is an aftermarket 
center stand available (for major $$).

William
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> 
> 
> Plus one for the center stand (which the bakfiets has in spades). You will
> never be able to control the climbing in and out factor without it & they
> will climb when you’re least ready
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Re: [RBW] Re: Whoah! 1 x 12?????

[William Henderson]

Grant’s not the only one! I’ve slowly drifted from 7 to 8 to 9 and now 10-seed 
cassettes. To be fair, I think the early N+1 speed systems really were a lot 
worse for practical riding. They always seem to start out less reliable, less 
inter-compatible and much more expensive. Then the manufacturers figure out the 
tricks to make it work, they copy one another and converge on some 
interchangeability among brands, and finally they allow the new tech to trickle 
down into their lower end line ups. By that point, it’s as mature, reliable and 
inexpensive as the tech it replaced.

As an aside, I wonder if this strategy isn’t just about maximizing profit on 
the high-end, but also about delivering reliable inexpensive components on the 
low-end. Some of the best and most reliable components I’ve used are decidedly 
low-end, and some of the most high-maintenance and annoying ones are high-end. 
But it’s not simply that low-end components always get new tech last. 
Sometimes, like with the beloved "big-jockey” Shimano Altus mech, we see new 
tech debut in the low-end stuff! But those innovations are practically-minded, 
and they are invisible to most customers rather than be flashy selling points. 
After all, if you are buying a bike and don’t care about getting a high-end 
machine with the latest frills, you are probably going to be most interested in 
a bike that you can ride hard, never tweak and seldom maintain.

William

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> 
> This was especially funny to me as recently I have been reading the early 
> Readers (thanks, Reed!) and there are many instances of Grant lamenting the 
> unavailability of quality 6spd freewheels.  Now here's an Atlantis with 
> double that number of cogs out back!
> 
> Living in the flatlands, I've come to appreciate more closely spaced gears 
> than the 1x systems can offer, at least without greatly sacrificing overall 
> range. 9 speeds out back with two or three chainrings up front seems to be 
> the sweet spot for me.  
> 
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2018 at 3:36:53 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
> The industry has gone to 12 now?
> 
> They have a 1 x 12 on an Atlantis. Far out!.
> 
> 
> I also wonder if, with the existing 11 and 12 cogset setups if you are tied 
> in to a certain manufacturer, component-wise, like with indexing.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ridden both 26"/700c Atlantis'?

[William Henderson]

Hi Darin,
I never owned a 26” Atlantis, just ridden one that is similarly setup to mine 
(noodles roughly even with saddle). I’m sort of in the middle of sizes on the 
Riv sizing chart (6’, 31” inseam, I forget my pbh), but I feel supremely 
comfortable on my 61cm and on the smaller bike I did indeed feel cramped. 
Perhaps that could probably be adjusted for with the right stem and saddle set 
back. That said, as I graduated to running bigger and bigger tires on my 
Atlantis, standover became somewhat of an issue for me. It was fine on roads 
but on rough stuff I often wondered if I should be on a smaller frame. That 
(and wanting to run even bigger tires without taking off my fenders) was what 
ultimately motivated me to convert it to 650b. And yes it does now roll just a 
touch slower on smooth roads. 

William

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:21 PM, DarinM  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for weighing in. I know the geometry is varied to keep the 
> steering characteristics and bottom bracket height similar between the small 
> and large frames, but still was curious if there are any  notable differences 
> in the way they ride, aside from the influences of wheel diameter/weight. I 
> do like the lower feeling that William noted in his comparison, but 700c 
> Atlantii (and all Rivs, really) have pretty low BB's compared to other bikes 
> so that's a plus.
> 
> Doug, thanks for the feedback. Pretty sums up what I'm starting to realize. 
> If it was a 58, I probably wouldn't even think about it, but two sizes is 
> hard to ignore. On the other hand, the 61 only has a 2cm longer top tube, the 
> difference is mostly in stack.
> 
> Nate, yes this the one! The seller didn't post it on list but it was outed 
> here by another member. Interesting that you remember this feeling large 
> given the bikes you ride now. I kind of have that feeling too. What brakes 
> did you use for the 650b conversion? I'm not interested in selling now but 
> will let you know if that changes.
> 
> William, did you own a 26" Atlantis or just ride one? How does your 61 fit 
> you? Did you feel noticeably cramped on the smaller size? It's odd to me that 
> mine doesn't exactly feel small, but maybe part of that could be due to large 
> tires and wide bars. 
> 
> Thanks for all the comments everyone. If there are any 61cm Atlantis riders 
> in the Seattle area, I'd love to take yours for a spin. Will buy 
> lunch/beer/etc!
> 
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Re: [RBW] Off or on-topic? Cannabis oil

[William Henderson]

Surely it is within the domain of a Rivendell group to talk about what is 
within the domain of a Rivendell group. How else is the community able to 
define and enforce its rules?

William
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> On Sep 11, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> 
> Why?  Was it mentioned in a Blagh?  If not, I can't see any reason why it 
> would be.  This list is, after all, about Rivendell, bicycles and bicycling, 
> not about pain relief remedies.  It's only when Grant himself mentions 
> something in one of the Rivendell blogs that it falls under the Rivendell 
> aegis.
> 
> 
>> On 09/11/2018 02:18 PM, William! wrote:
>> To be clear this topic isn’t about cannabis oil it’s about whether or not 
>> cannabis oil is on topic, which clearly it is
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for GPS computers?

[William Henderson]

Yep, many folks do just that – use Ride Report for quick daily trips and
Strava for longer rides out of town.

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:22 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> RideReport looks cool. Will I be able to run RideReport and Strava
> simultaneously on my iPhone?  Seems like I should since they would both
> just simple consumers of GPS data.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

[William Henderson]

Ah, the mythical Hunqamullet: performance in the front, classic in the back.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM DarinM  wrote:

> Those of you who want a disc-Riv, how would you feel about Rivendell
> offering just a disc fork option for a few of the exiting bikes? The front
> brake does most of our braking anyways, the rear is arguably only there for
> emergency use, except for maybe on dedicated MTB's which Riv doesn't really
> offer anyways.
>
> It may simplify things for them while also keeping everyone happy as you
> could order one or the other with your frame. I ask as someone who doesn't
> really see where discs would fit in their current line-up anyways, aside
> from maybe the Hunq.
>
> Darin in eastern WA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

[William Henderson]

Cost was $450 for a custom fork (matches original except disc tab and
stoutness) and ~200 to add a tab to the frame. ISO mounts.

I already needed a paint job and a new fork, so it was a no brainer for me.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:50 PM EasyRider  wrote:

> Kinda surprising that more people haven't done as William, and had disc
> mounts added their Atlantis, Hunq, Sam, etc., What would it cost, a few
> hundred? Plus repaint? Or maybe get Waterford to make a disc fork? I'd
> guess that'd be 400-500. Anyway, a lot less than buying a new disc Riv,
> were one to exist.
>
> Pete
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who wants a Hunqadiscer?

[William Henderson]

Switching my Atlantis to disc brakes represents somewhat of a controlled
experiment, and I can tell you that if anything changed about the “ride
quality” it is undetectable. Perhaps on a road bike with skinny tires it
would be different.
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:05 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Again, sure, why not? But that doesn't mean someone else can't look at
> bicycle braking technologies and decide, with equal validity, why? It may
> not be a popular decision, it may be seen as "impeding progress" or simply
> as stubborn. But it doesn't make it wrong. This decision by itself may or
> may not be a game changer, but as more and more of these choices acrue, the
> path changes irrevocably. I know everyone says cars are so much better now
> than back in the day, but most guys no longer have the tools or the
> $100,000 diagnostic computer needed to tinker with them, never mind teach
> their sons. And a rear view mirror, which you could once adjust by rolling
> down the window and giving it a twist, is now electronically operated and
> costs a fortune to replace or fix. We see all the shiny positives in these
> developments and plunge in wholeheartedly, but truly, there are drawbacks,
> both for individuals and society. The best choice there would have been to
> limit our use of cars and design things around trains and trolleys and
> bicycles and walking. You make cars more "efficient" and "safe" and then
> you fall into things like Jevon's Paradox, and now you need more parking
> lots and roads and other infrastructure and maintaining it all, not to
> mention the increased time humans spend in automobiles shuffling ourselves
> about. And as we know, that's just the tip of the problem's iceberg.
>
> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 2:57:22 AM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:
>>
>> I wrote a big, long response sharing my personal experiences with moving
>> to new tech related to bikes and cars, but in the end, I came to the same
>> place...
>>
>> Why not?  Disc brakes are good.  Maybe they they don't have the character
>> or aesthetics of our beloved rim brakes, but they are good, even better
>> when added to the already wonderful qualities of a Riv. (lugged Hunqadiscer
>> for me please)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:30:33 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that I've conjured up my future-Riv on the "what type of bike"
>>> thread (full disclosure: I also sent an email to Roman @ Riv), I guess I'll
>>> campaign for it on its own thread.
>>>
>>> I know Grant/Riv isn't big on disc brakes, but a lot of people prefer
>>> them in the dirt. I'm not sure there's much of a market for a pricier
>>> fully-lugged disc Riv, but a Hunqapillar-ish semi-TIGed 650B model in the
>>> Clem/Roadini price range would be the bee's pajamas. Would you buy a Riv
>>> dirt bike (I'm campaigning for a small "dirt bike" decal, too) with
>>> mechanical discs?
>>>
>>> Joe "weak hands" Bernard
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[William Henderson]

In rainy Portland I wear out my front pads about once a season. So far my
sintered disc pads are on track to wear out at about the same rate, perhaps
a little faster. The difference is that with rim brakes I can check their
status whenever I look down at a stop light. I know when they’re going to
wear out, and can replace them before it happens during a long wet ride.

Best,
William

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 3:28 PM Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:

> When was the last time you had to replace a pair of caliper brake pads on
> the road because you wore them out during a ride?  I usually get
> years-to-decades from mine.
>
> On 12/27/2017 06:19 PM, William Henderson wrote:
>
> Yikes! I keep spare pads in my patch kit because it’s hard to watch pad
> wear so I’m paranoid about wearing a pair out during a ride. Now I have
> another reason to!
>
> Out of curiosity, what sort of material were the pads? I’ve broken
> resin-type pads while inserting them before but sintered pads seem to be a
> bit more durable (and long lasting).
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 2:49 PM ascpgh <asc@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Uh, I had a simple flat fix turn complicated when I replaced the front
>> wheel in the fork, missing the gap between the pads in the caliper by a
>> smidge and shearing the pad's braking material off the backer plate. That's
>> not a roadside repair unless you carry a replacement pair in your bag.
>>
>> Short answer was to snag a rear pad out of the caliper to replace the now
>> toothless front pad and put the padless plate into the rear caliper and
>> riding home gingerly.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:07:53 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>>>
>>> Roadside maintenance easier on rim or disc brakes?
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[William Henderson]

Yikes! I keep spare pads in my patch kit because it’s hard to watch pad
wear so I’m paranoid about wearing a pair out during a ride. Now I have
another reason to!

Out of curiosity, what sort of material were the pads? I’ve broken
resin-type pads while inserting them before but sintered pads seem to be a
bit more durable (and long lasting).
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> Uh, I had a simple flat fix turn complicated when I replaced the front
> wheel in the fork, missing the gap between the pads in the caliper by a
> smidge and shearing the pad's braking material off the backer plate. That's
> not a roadside repair unless you carry a replacement pair in your bag.
>
> Short answer was to snag a rear pad out of the caliper to replace the now
> toothless front pad and put the padless plate into the rear caliper and
> riding home gingerly.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 2:07:53 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> Roadside maintenance easier on rim or disc brakes?
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Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[William Henderson]

You’d be surprised! Most folks look right at it and never notice the
difference…

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> I'm trying to figure out how there's a disc Riv out there somewhere and we
> never heard about it!
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Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

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Right, I forgot to mention that it is already running disc brakes so moving
the studs won’t be an issue. If I had a set of 650b wheels sitting around
I’d throw them on but in lieu of that I was hoping someone else might
already have tried (whether by moving the studs or some other method).
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM Ian A  wrote:

> The canti posts are the issue. It would certainly be possible to move the
> posts to the 650b position and use brakes with enough adjustment to
> accommodate either 650b wheels or 700c.
>
> But, the costs of moving the posts and dealing with painting the frame and
> fork afterwards would be significant. As to whether it would significantly
> change the ride of the bike, hard to say. The bottom bracket would sit a
> fraction lower.
>
> 650b rims are predominantly disc only nowadays. There are still rim brake
> options available, but personally I think a new bike would be a better
> investment. Something like the Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross Disc
> (which I believe is still in prototype phase).
>
> Keep the Atlantis the way G intended. It's good that way.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Shikoro 700 x 48

[William Henderson]

Try Universal Cycles too. They are closer to $50 and you can usually get
another 10% off via their email list.

Best,
William

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:13 AM dougP  wrote:

> Well this got me onto the Soma site & they have more options (almost too
> many).
>
> The 42 mm Cazadero is now listed as being available in blackwall, and
> there is also a 50 mm Cazadero in black.  Both price mid-$70s, a bit above
> the $60ish of other chubby 700c options.  The 50 mm Caz has a listed weight
> of 570 gr vs 670 for the 48 mm Shikaro.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 7:14:40 AM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote:
>>
>> I had Compass Snoqualmie Pass ELs on my Joe, but I wanted something with
>> a little more width and some more puncture protection. I tried the Schwalbe
>> Almotion 700 x 50, but both tires wobbled (one badly) and the road feel was
>> a little dead. I also briefly fitted some Continental Race Kings (29 x
>> 2.2), and while they fit just fine, an MTB tire wasn't really what I was
>> after.
>>
>> I didn't find a lot of reviews of the Shikoro, but someone on this board
>> referenced their durability, so I decided to take a chance. I mounted the
>> tires last night and thought I'd register my first impression and the
>> measured width for anyone who may be considering them.
>>
>> The tires roll well. I was surprised not to notice a huge difference
>> between the Compass treads and the Shikoros. They are a stiffer tire and
>> twice the weight, but a short ride on familiar terrain tells me I'm going
>> to like them a lot. No noticeable extra resistance climbing, and swift,
>> smooth roll down the hills. On gravel, a nice cushion and good grip (for a
>> "treadles" tire).
>>
>> The rear tire measurres 47.32mm on a Mavic A719 at 50lbs. The front
>> measures 46mm on the same rim at 40lbs. For reference, the Compass 700 x
>> 44s--after a couple of months--measure about 41mm on DT Swiss TK540s, front
>> and rear. Lighter riders will run these at lower pressures, so 45-46mm
>> inflated width is about what you should expect.
>>
>> I've always favoured all-black tires, but I really like the look of
>> these.
>>
>> Jay
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Re: [RBW] Soma Shikoro 700 x 48

[William Henderson]

They wear quite well, just like to Jack Browns blues. I bought my Shikoros
in December 2015 and according to Ride Report I have about 3.5k miles on
them, mostly on pavement and some dirt. I expect I'll get over 5k before
they are done.

Best,
William

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> Hey, Jay
>
> I'm so glad you posted this! I've been thinking about those tires for my
> Proto-Joe and almost started a thread the other day to learn more about
> them. These seem like a great balance of ride quality/protection. You'll
> have to report back on their durability after you've put some miles on them.
>
> I like that dark tan sidewall, but I know it will start looking gnarly
> quick in the winter riding here in Portland.
>
> Also, I'm glad to see someone else putting stickers on their Riv!
>
> Thanks!
> Tim
> Portland, OR
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[William Henderson]

Agreed. I typically ride at higher pressures (70-80psi) for my commute,
though I'll drop down for gravel rides and other such. I started with the
Soma Supple Vitesse, which are absolutely lovely but just flatted too often
for me. After a few weeks of that, I switched to the Shikoros. The do feel
a bit stiffer, but they are still quite lively. They seem to roll almost on
their own.

Curiously, the Shikoros flatted several times too – at first (including one
flat during the World Naked Bike Ride. Made for pretty awkward pumping).
This may have been terrible luck, but I wonder if the brand new tires were
somehow 'stickier' and tended to pick up glass and other debris. I got two
or three flats in the first two weeks of daily riding, and almost gave up.
I'm glad I persisted: a year and a half later I'm still riding them and I
haven't had a single flat. The tires have worn nicely, plenty of tread left
(according to Ride Report I've put 3.5k miles on them).

Best,
William

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 9:45 AM Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> In my experience, outside a glass or thorn heavy environment, a low
> inflation, wide, supple tire is its own flat protection, as the suppleness
> allows the tire to compress around sharp rocks etc. I've only gotten pinch
> flats (from underinflation) and from riding the tires after the tread was
> worn down.
>
> Patrick of the Moore swears by using liquid latex in his tubes to prevent
> flats in his goat head infested niche of the world.
>
> There seems to be a wide variety of what works for people (no doubt for a
> variety of reasons) on commutes. Experience will be the best teacher. I'd
> aim for the plushest ride first and add flat protection if you get a lot of
> flats that aren't fixed by proper inflation (which can take a bit to dial
> in -- the basic idea is just enough air to prevent pinch flats and tire
> rolls in curves).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:33:48 AM UTC-6, Birdman wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, that's one I hadn't encountered before.
>>
>> What about a Compass tire-ish ride WITH flat protection?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis! Tire question

[William Henderson]

That's be the Shikoro or Jack Brown Blue, I think.

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>
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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[William Henderson]

It wasn't out yet, I was just locking in a very favorable currency exchange
rate
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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[William Henderson]

Got mine from bike24 a couple weeks ago. Ordered in October =)
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:08 PM Anton Tutter  wrote:

> I ordered mine a few weeks ago, got it in two weeks. I've ordered many
> times from bike24.de, they've always delivered in about two weeks. Never
> had a problem.
>
> Anton
>
>
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>> So has anyone received their lights from bike-discount yet? Website says
>> they are in stock, I'm just waiting to pull the trigger
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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[William Henderson]

Right. Sort of an unfortunate design when combined with the fact that the
light is always on. The ideal behavior is that light would somehow suppress
the bright light unless it had enough power to keep it on for several
seconds. Sort of an inverse standlight.

Best,
William

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:51 PM Eric Norris  wrote:

> My IQ-X does seems flash a bit more at very low speeds than my other LED
> dyno lights. I attribute that to the brighter LED, which probably requires
> a little more power to light up.
>
> Anyway, we’re talking *walking* speed here—get on the bike and start
> riding and the headlight lights up like any other at a very slow *riding*
> speed.
>
> --Eric N
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> On Mar 8, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Mark Anderson  wrote:
>
> I too have an Eyc with daytime running mode and automatic senso-whatever
> switching. The Eyc does not respond to/get confused by oncoming vehicle
> lights, but it does flash the daytime high-beam lights when going under
> Chicago's brighter streetlamps.   I am not fond of that.  The flashing
> distracts me quite a bit.  The rapid change and loss of a clear beam
> pattern on the road somehow looks like the lights of a rapidly overtaking
> vehicle behind me --- at least to some deep, lizard-like part of my brain.
>
> Regarding the flashing at low speed: That is just a fundamental fact of
> bicycle lighting life.  Both hub and sidewall generators are magnetos,
> which generate alternating current, the frequency being dependent of the
> rotational frequency of the wheel. So, LED lights (and to some extent even
> incandescents) are always flashing as they light up on only half of the
> time or so.
>
> To the OP:  I would be very interested to hear about the performance of
> the stand light on the IQ-X.  The stand light on the Eyc has been a real
> disappointment for me in that it is just a little too dim to seem
> noticeable in town.  I know it cannot be anywhere near as bright as when
> riding, but the Eyc stand light seems much, much weaker than my taillight's
> stand light (a Toplite Line), even more so than the efficiency penalty of
> white LEDs.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
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Re: [RBW] Re: IQ-X Headlight

[William Henderson]

I should also mention this – I noticed an immediate difference when I
started using this light during the day. Drivers pulled out in front of me
or cut me off far less frequently. I'd recommend anyone using a dynamo
setup keep there lights on, and I’d recommend anyone in the market take a
look at the Senso lights with daytime mode.

Best,
William

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:57 AM William Henderson <
william.c.hender...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I’ve been using another B Senso light (the Eyc T) for a few years and
> have never had an issue with it switching off when it shouldn’t. The
> daytime brightness seems to be quite reasonable, and most of the beam at
> night is focused where it should be (on the path in front of me). I’ve
> never had drivers or other riders complain about the light’s brightness.
>
> The one complaint I have had is when the bike is at *very *low speeds
> (often when I am walking with the bike), the light blinks. It’s not
> particularly garish compared to many blinky lights, but the fact that it is
> always on is annoying and has led to some awkward situations. I’d prefer if
> it didn’t blink at low speeds, or at least not during the daytime.
>
> Best,
> William
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:38 AM Eric Norris <campyonly...@me.com> wrote:
>
>> Haven't tried it, but I think it would take more than an oncoming car to
>> make it switch. The manual says the light waits a few seconds before
>> switching when conditions change, to keep the output from fluctuating too
>> much.
>>
>> --Eric N
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>>
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:07 AM, David Banzer <daban...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious about the senso-only mode. Does it work well? My concern
>> would be oncoming traffic lights making the IQ think that there's
>> sufficient light and switch to daytime lights. Maybe I'm overthinking this
>> one.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 8:33:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> My report thus far on the IQ-X headlight:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2016/03/busch-and-muller-iq-x-headlight.html
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: IQ-X Headlight

[William Henderson]

I’ve been using another B Senso light (the Eyc T) for a few years and
have never had an issue with it switching off when it shouldn’t. The
daytime brightness seems to be quite reasonable, and most of the beam at
night is focused where it should be (on the path in front of me). I’ve
never had drivers or other riders complain about the light’s brightness.

The one complaint I have had is when the bike is at *very *low speeds
(often when I am walking with the bike), the light blinks. It’s not
particularly garish compared to many blinky lights, but the fact that it is
always on is annoying and has led to some awkward situations. I’d prefer if
it didn’t blink at low speeds, or at least not during the daytime.

Best,
William

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 6:38 AM Eric Norris  wrote:

> Haven't tried it, but I think it would take more than an oncoming car to
> make it switch. The manual says the light waits a few seconds before
> switching when conditions change, to keep the output from fluctuating too
> much.
>
> --Eric N
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> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:07 AM, David Banzer  wrote:
>
> I'm curious about the senso-only mode. Does it work well? My concern would
> be oncoming traffic lights making the IQ think that there's sufficient
> light and switch to daytime lights. Maybe I'm overthinking this one.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 8:33:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> My report thus far on the IQ-X headlight:
>>
>>
>> http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2016/03/busch-and-muller-iq-x-headlight.html
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Soma Supple Vitesse EX 700x42c tires

[William Henderson]

Yes.

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:21 AM Eric Wiens  wrote:

> Are they 700 x 42?
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2015 at 3:11:37 PM UTC-5, William! wrote:
>>
>> Bought these to see what everyone is talking about. They are round and
>> roll fast, basically a wider Jack Brown Green. However, this is the version
>> without the Kevlar belt and I found I wanted more flat protection for my
>> daily commute. Alas, my adventuring bike cannot fit such a girth. According
>> to Ride Report, these tires have 176 miles on them.
>>
>> $80 shipped for the pair, $70 for PDX pickup.
>>
>>
>> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/supple-vitesse-ex-700c-clincher-tire
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?

[William Henderson]

This may have been covered, but has anyone tried the Barlow Pass tires on a 
Roadeo? This review says they fit, though I wonder with how much room to 
spare...


http://www.roadbikerider.com/product-reviews/wheels-tires/compass-barlow-pass-extralight-700-x-38-tires







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On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Paul,
 what psi are you running your Grand Bois 28 tires With my 23mm rims, I run 
 55front, 65rear.
 On Sunday, July 6, 2014 at 1:15:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I love the Ram; it just feels right -- in the sense that it encourages 
 hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. 

 But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to turn in; 
 while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. 
 That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, 
 reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as 
 another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 
 handles those duties. 

 I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss 
 trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and 
 I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In 
 particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build.

 My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long 
 stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother 
 back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat

[William Henderson]

Nice. Please do, Tim.

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 I wanted to try this, so I recently had my vintage Schwinn KOM frame bead
 blasted.  My local powder coater wasn't convinced that his coatings would
 be as crystal clear as I'd like, so he hooked me up with a former employee
 of his who now paints auto finishes.  That gent is putting on a couple
 coats of clear paint, no primer.  I'll report back with photos once I get
 the frame back from the painter.
 Tim
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  On 02/08/2015 06:43 PM, Steven Butcher wrote:

 Bruce, I'm new to RBW but check in often.  I'd like to give a plug for
 Groody Brothers in Kansas City,  Missouri.  They have a very informative
 website.  I've had them powder coat a frame which turned out nicely.  To
 remove the old paint, they used a glass bead blasting process which is much
 gentler to the metal than sandblasting.  I know they can do a clear powder
 coat.  I really like that raw metal look.  Good luck.  Steve.

 On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 at 1:41:57 PM UTC-5, Bruce Baker wrote:

 Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear
 powder coat??  Would there be any downside to this??
 I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be
 interesting have a Sam like that.  Any thoughts or comments??
 Bruce


 Last I heard, those raw clearcoat powdercoated bikes rusted pretty quickly
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Ritchey Road Logic Frame, fork and Chris King headset

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Can’t find it, I don’t think I did. Maybe try again?  

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Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm Ritchey Road Logic Frame, fork and Chris King headset

[William Henderson]

I believe the TT is 58. I can measure when I get home. Condition is very good. 
There are some minor paint chips (mostly on the underbelly of the DT, some have 
been touched up) but the steel is immaculate.  
  
William

On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:  
 I doubt the tt is 57 cm c-c, but just in case: what is it? I'd love one that 
 fit me, and 60 X 56.5-57 is just right.
  
 Condition? Looks good, but the photos are somewhat obscure.  
  
  
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  here:http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/4515526421.html  
   
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Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm Ritchey Road Logic Frame, fork and Chris King headset

[William Henderson]

I’ll double check. I have no idea how to measure the ST angle. Today’s Road 
Logics list 
(http://ritcheylogic.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/e/web-geo-road-logic.jpg)
 at 73.5º for this size frame, not sure if that has changed since this frame 
was made.  

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 Thanks. Again, it is a very long shot, but if it is 57 or slightly less, I am 
 interested. Center to center, please.
  
 Also, is the seat tube angle no more than 73*?
  
  
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  I believe the TT is 58. I can measure when I get home. Condition is very 
  good. There are some minor paint chips (mostly on the underbelly of the DT, 
  some have been touched up) but the steel is immaculate.  

  William
   
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   I doubt the tt is 57 cm c-c, but just in case: what is it? I'd love one 
   that fit me, and 60 X 56.5-57 is just right.

   Condition? Looks good, but the photos are somewhat obscure.  


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Re: [RBW] Ghost shift on a 61cm Atlantis?

[William Henderson]

8 speeds on a Shimano 105 long cage derailler.  It's got some miles but I've 
been seeing this issue since it was new...—
William
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Are you shifting 8 or 9? Perhaps it's technique? While I happily shift 9
 and even 10 with friction shifters, I know that it *does* require a fine
 touch and just a wee bit of misalignment can cause slippage.
 FWIW, when I shifted 10 (very crisply, I might add) with Simplex
 Retrofrictions, the cable ran through a Rivendellian molded-in cable groove
 and I felt no ill effect at all from that manner of routing.
 All that said, how many miles on what sort of RD? Could the derailleur's
 pivots be sloppy?
 This does not apply to your case, but in case it's of interest to anyone
 else: I build my own cogsets from out-of-series cogs and I've found that
 some adjacent cogs just don't play nice together -- this happens even with
 7 speed cogsets. When it last happened on the Fargo's home-made 9, I
 replaced the -- I think it was -- #4 from the outside, a 16, and shifts to
 and from the middle/5 17 were crisper and the ghost shifting stopped. The
 Fargo has Silver BES.
 Incidentally, I've never swapped pulleys and I've never had problems,
 either.
 On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 10:52 AM, William! william.c.hender...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 My Atlantis has had occasional ghost shifting issues since I first built
 it up. Usually when standing up to pedal, only in the middle cogs (highest
 and lowest cog are fine).

 Things I've tried:

- The whole drive train has been replaced a few times as I've worn it
out. I've learned the hard way and keep a careful eye on chain stretch and
tooth wear. So the problem is probably not the drive train.
- The silver bar end shifters are tight, probably tighter than needed.
I've tried beeswax, replacing the plastic thingies. Pretty sure they are
not slipping, the problem is probably not in the shifters.
- Tried using a cable liner along the bottom bracket shell. The thing
tends to slip up and become useless after a few dozen shifts and I don't
think it is making a difference even when properly aligned. The problem
could be here.

 At this point I'm thinking it's the frame – either the bottom bracket
 shell cable routing or excessive frame flex. I'm thinking of tapping the
 bottom bracket shell to install a proper cable route. Anyone tried that?
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Re: [RBW] Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

[William Henderson]

Hi David,  
I have gotten a pretty overwhelming response on the tandem and there are a 
couple folks ahead of you in line. It’s likely I will sell it tomorrow, but I 
will let you know if anything changes.


Best,
William



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 I'll take as pictured it if you can wait until after the weekend. I'm working 
 the weekend but can drive up from San Francisco after if available.
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Fully Riv'd Santana Touring Tandem

[William Henderson]

Thanks, Bill. It’s good advice but we just sprung for a long-tail bike to haul 
kiddo and selling the tandem was part of the deal =(.  

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On Thursday, March 13, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 That's an incredibly low price on a spectacular family tandem.  But please 
 don't sell it!  Buy a burley solo trailer and go out all three of you.  Then, 
 buy a Burley Piccolo when your son is a little bigger, then consider getting 
 a kiddie crank so he can stoke for you.  Before you know it he'll be stoking 
 for you without the kiddie crank!
  
 I just finished that waiting game, and my son is now able to stoke for me on 
 our Ibis tandem.  Let me know if you want a very inexpensive Burley Solo or 
 Burley Piccolo, as my kids have both outgrown them.  :-)
  
 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA
  
 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:13:57 PM UTC-7, William! wrote:
  I've come to the painful realization that our tandem needs to go. The bike 
  was lovingly restored by me and has seen many wonderful journeys. However, 
  since our son was born the only time it sees any uses is when I use it to 
  pick people up from the train station =(.
   
  Look at the pictures first:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941256@N00/13133971214/in/set-72157642312563303
   
   
  The frame is a late 80's or early 90's, beautifully fillet brazed Columbus 
  tubing. Not sure what measurements are appropriate to give, but my wife and 
  I are about 57 and 6 respectively. It has the original Araya 27 tandem 
  wheels. The bike could be converted to 700c but the wheels have many miles 
  left on them so I haven't bothered.
   
  The cockpit features albatross bars, silver shifters and mountain style 
  levers. Captain and stoker both get shellacked cork grips and Honey Brooks 
  B-17's. On the rear I've got a stainless steel touring rack with a fancy 
  Nigel Smythe trunk bag. This bike is equally ready to ride on an extended 
  tour or a Sunday picnic in the park.
   
  I'd like to get $1,000 as pictured, though I'd consider selling without 
  saddles, bags etc if you prefer. I've spent considerably more building it 
  up and I suspect it might fetch more on Craigslist or Ebay, but given the 
  sentimental value I would love to sell this bike to someone on-list.  
   
  Located in Portland, Oregon.   
  
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[RBW] Re: Sackville BarSack

[William Henderson]

Seriously eyeing this bag. I may go check it out this weekend if I'm
feeling up to the hour BART ride. My questions:

- How big is the main compartment? (will it fit, say, an iPad?)
- How easy is it to take on and off? (easy enough so that I can take
it off the bike each time I lock up?)
- How much water can it take?

wc.

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 I noticed they posted some pictures and a price for the Sackville
 BarSack. It looks nice. I'm not sure how it will effect handling. If I
 didn't have a Berthoud already I'd consider trying this.

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-barsack/20-208

 Anyone order one yet?

 --mike

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[RBW] Rivish Recipe

[William Henderson]

At some point on yesterday's 2 Rock/Valley Ford I was asked about what
it was I was eating with such delight. Actually, I think the comment
came after I was observed bombing down a hill with a goofy grin and a
muffin in my mouth (don't try this at home, or anywhere for that
matter). Upon reaching the second control at (3) Rock and raising more
than one eyebrow with my curious food purchase there (not a gel shot
but a stack of salami), the topic came up again. Thus, I went into
some detail about the remarkable anti-bonking properties of my
buttered rye molasses muffins. Maybe the asker was just being polite,
but either way these things are too good not to share. Luckily the
muffin maker has generously agreed to offer up her recipe (plus a
recap of the event as experienced from the kitchen) for all:

http://www.paprikahead.com/2010/01/molasses-muffins.html

Or, you can just wait for the 300k - I always pack extra.

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[RBW] Pickups for SF Folks?

[William Henderson]

I like to go to Riv now and then, but it's an expensive BART ticket
from SF and quite a bit of time if I'm just getting an odd part or
two. On the other hand, I don't want to pay shipping for a cheap part
nor do I like the idea of packaging and trucking a part that I can
carry in my pocket home.

Propposed solution: I order my parts, they wait at Riv for a couple
days, and then on the weekend we take turns doing a mass pick up for
SF folks. Informally, one pickup gets you one free shipment. The
courier can meet the rest of us back in the city at a central location
(coffee shop), where there will be much rejoicing, perhaps a quick
ride, etc.

Anyone interested?
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[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting

[William Henderson]

I've been through this nonsense.  I bought a cheap front Tektro brake
and stole the bolt from it.  I put that on the rear, and then I
drilled out the front fork to accept a recessed allen.

I also tried that rear-on-front trick, and I don't recommend it.  The
brake wiggled itself loose after a few weeks, stripping the bolt in
the process.

Really and truly though, the easiest route is to get the VO nutted.
It's the exact same brake, as handsome as you please, and won't leave
you drilling out that classic bike of yours.

wc.

On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote:
 Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell
 Silver brake to a nutted mounting?  I've found one reference on a
 Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was
 possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a cheap Tektro 800
 brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting.

 By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro
 R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify
 a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes.  This is intended for a
 conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27 wheel size to 700c.

 Jim Cloud
 Tucson, AZ

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[RBW] Re: If you haven't done so already, check out our new and improved web catalog

[William Henderson]

I take it back.  Looks like they've already fixed the bug!  Nice work.

wc.

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wrote:
 Great work, although it seems that at least some of the urls were
 jumbled in the process.  A link I sent emailed the other day now
 points to a different product...

 On Dec 14, 9:35 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:



  It's got some cool new features, and we like it a lot.

  Cheers,

  John
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[RBW] Re: If Filson and Berthoud had a baby....

[William Henderson]

That is a ridiculously sweet bag.  Certainly dead-on in terms of
looks.  Despite the lack of pannier hooks, I'd consider Adam were it
not for his wait list.  He should raise his prices, in my opinion.

wc.

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 I don't think this precisely fits the bill, but I did want to make a
 quick plug for Adam over at Zugster Bags.  His queue can be similar to
 a custom frame at times, but his work is excellent.  The reason I
 mention this is from an image he posted this weekend 
 -http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/4106703347

 It's an in the wild photo of this bag, I think 
 -http://www.flickr.com/photos/aalpern/4064339425

 and it's different enough from the Nigel Smythe, Sackville and BrandV
 designs to be complimentary.

 Also, it looks like the Nitto Mini Front racks are back in stock as of
 this weekend.

 - Jim

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  I'm still looking for the perfect go-everywhere bag.  Something with a
  classic style (leather?), a solid strap for carrying off the bike, and
  some means of attaching to the bike so it isn't on my back when I
  ride.
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[RBW] Re: Will a Pitlock seatpost binder bolt work w. the new Quickbeam?

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Works great on my older Atlantis.  AFAIK Riv hasn't changed their
seatpost collar style...

It's a pretty simple system.  All you really need is for the outsides
of the collar to be flat so the clamp can work.  It's ok if it also
has a recess for a nut (as the Atlantis does).

wc.
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 and I'd prefer to get a Pitlock system over the Zefal that RBW sells.
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[RBW] If Filson and Berthoud had a baby....

[William Henderson]

I'm still looking for the perfect go-everywhere bag.  Something with a
classic style (leather?), a solid strap for carrying off the bike, and
some means of attaching to the bike so it isn't on my back when I
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[RBW] Oh noes!

[William Henderson]

http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3202/quarterview.jpg
Rival!
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[RBW] Re: Oh noes!

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I guess none of y'all read Yehuda Moon...

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[RBW] Re: Ethics: What to do if I am scammed by a list member?

[William Henderson]

Seriously, this is a problem.

On Oct 8, 11:43 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Out him to save the rest of us your problem.





 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I like this group. I learn alot and like to know there is a community
  out there that ride and understand functional bikes beyond the racing
  scene. I also have an intentional naive trust of list members. I have
  occasionally bought, sold, and traded items, often with items passing
  in the mail.

  Recently though a list member posted here asking for an exchange.
  After some correspondence, he and I agreed. I mailed my item Priority
  within a few days. This individual said he mailed his item a few days
  later. Now it has been a month, nothing received here, and this
  individual is not answering my emails for nearly 2 weeks.

  I have his name and address that I would like to post to this group so
  that you will know there has been issues before you do business with
  him. Is this the proper thing to do?

  And unfortunately I will have to modify my naivete here and do
  business in a way that I cannot be taken advantage of. This makes me
  sad and shrinks my world view just a little.

  Your thoughts are appreciated

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[RBW] Re: Yet another fender question...

[William Henderson]

Just wondering which SKS fenders you have?  Some of the ones I've seen
out there are quite a bit longer than others.

wc.

On Oct 2, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I'm thinking of putting metal fenders on my Hilsen. I have
 Berthouds on my Rambouillet and really like them. With my Hilsen I'm
 thinking of putting on some hammered Honjos (700x45). I won't be
 attaching the front fender to a rack and I'm wondering if it will
 vibrate a lot. Isn't this a problem with Honjos sometimes? It isn't an
 issue with my Berthouds but I think that's because they are steel as
 opposed to aluminum.

 I currently have SKS fenders with leather flaps on my Hilsen but they
 just aren't long enough in the front. I should mention that a coworker
 picked up an extra rear SKS fender, trimmed it and mounted on the
 front. It seems to be working well for him.

 I live in Portland and fenders are essential. This isn't entirely
 about bike fashion.

 --mike
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[RBW] Tandems?

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I want to build a tandem bike.  Not something super expensive or
luxurious, but something I can depend on all the same and take on
longer rides and tours. Ideally I'd find a decently priced older
complete or frame and go from there, as I've done with many classy old
steel single-seaters.  What would be the tandem-equivalent of a Trek
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[RBW] STI Bell Levers?

[William Henderson]

I'm sold on my bar end shifters but I don't love my stem-mounted bell
so much.  I use it a lot in the city and it is just plane awkward.
Now, shifting when you brake makes no sense, but belling when you
brake - there's an idea!  Anyone else dream about STI levers hooked up
to a bell?  Maybe the right lever could control a pair of traditional
brass ringers on my seat stays and the left lever could control an
occasionally-used fog horn up front!
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[RBW] Re: The myth of the all-rounder.

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Yes, Atlantis.

wc.

On Sep 6, 8:27 pm, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have always had a difficult time owning just one bicycle.  It seems
 that no matter how many times I imagine the most ideal bicycle model
 and setup I change my mind after a few weeks or months and alter the
 setup.  My solution to this is to have more than one bike, set up and
 designed for different purposes or types of riding.  There is a
 correlation with how much I enjoy bicycling and how many bikes I own -
 they seem to feed off each other and both increase because of each
 other.  This trend changed a little when I found Rivendell.  The
 versatility of their bike gives the potential for one frame to take on
 many different lives and for one bike setup to have enough crossover
 into other areas that a near all rounder status can be reached.  Has
 anyone been able to achieve a one-bike-for-everything-I-need goal?   I
 think part of the situation is that with  enthusiasts of anything the
 line between need and want gets blurry.

 Jason
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[RBW] QB on NYT

[William Henderson]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/23/business/smallbusiness/23venture.html?_r=2ref=business

Looks like a cool bag maker as well.  I like that some of her bags
have purse straps so you can take your bag of stuff with you when you
lock up outside.

wc.
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[RBW] Re: Touring 101 and beyond

[William Henderson]

My girlfriend and I had great success by doing a bit of looking at
some routes Bikely and then just setting out on our bikes.  We started
in SF, went up to Vallejo from Napa to Sonoma through wine country,
then and over to Tamales via Petaluma, then back down the coast
again.  Along the way, we used a combination of Google Maps on my
phone and advice from local bike shops. The only part of it that was
NOT that great way 121 from Napa to Sonoma (a designated bike route).
There's some construction going on that closed the shoulder and the
weekend traffic was quite aggressive. A local told us that going along
the bay and up to Sonoma is a better route – though I bet on a weekday
it would have been fine.

I wouldn't worry too much about planning everything out.  Carry maps,
ask some locals, have a rough idea but generally go where you want
each day - and you should be just fine.

wc.

On Aug 19, 5:28 pm, alexander chmod...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's a pretty good Krebs map for the wine country area called
 'North San Francisco Bay  Wine Country Bicycle Touring Map'.  That
 would give you a really great start.  For other places and routes, I
 would take a look at the Adventure cycling maps.  The maps are pricey
 but I think you can download waypoints for their routes for free.

 As far as transporting your bike, you can bring it on the plane with
 you (taken apart and packed in a bike box) for some extra cost
 depending on the airline, or you could ship it to an address via fedex
 or usps.  Flying in to SFO, taking BART into the city, and then riding
 north from there could make for a great trip.

 On Aug 19, 5:17 pm, Don donl...@bellsouth.net wrote:



  I am not new to biking but I am new to touring. I've got the bike/s
  (Sam Hillborne, Myata 610) and most of the basics. I also have a
  handle on touring within my state (Florida). But I need some help with
  planning some tours in other parts of the USA and overseas. I have
  some (probably dumb) questions about how one transports their bike to
  other distant locations and how one get a good guide for some of these
  tours. For example, after Easter I will have a week and my wife and I
  want to head to Northern California and do some touring that would
  take in the wine country and surrounding area. I don't really want to
  book a guided tour with rented bikes etc. Now maybe to start that is
  absolutely the best way to go. But all of the ones I have seen are
  very pricey and extremely structured to the group. Being new to this
  group I just figured I would lay it out there and see what information
  I might be able to gather. I am sure that there are various websites
  or other resources I could be directed to. I am not sure if this is OK
  but I will give you my email address so that if any want to send me
  stuff they can. Thanks in advance for any help you might give.
  Cheers,
  Don
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[RBW] Re: NOS dirt drop handlebars at RBW

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Dern if these bars don't have me curious (does Grant know how good he
is at making things into cult items?).  I like my noodles fine but
have recently been considering getting wider ones.  I'm tall but
fairly narrow shouldered, and I'm wondering if the narrow-tops/wide-
flares might fit better.  Can anyone whose owned and ridden these
provide a bit of insight?

wc.

On Aug 14, 4:21 pm, Murray Love murray.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sweet!  Ordered a pair...i've been wanting to try these for a long
  time.  I've got kind of a flared drop bar fetish.

  On Aug 13, 5:59 pm, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'll be the messenger, I guess.
 http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/146

 There are/were several models of dirt drop bar on the market--on most
 varieties, the flare begins at the top of the bend, so the brake levers
 flare out as well, which some people find uncomfortable.  The
 Nitto/BSC/Grant design is superior, imo, because the flare begins beneath
 the brake levers, which remain vertical.  So you get a nice traditional
 on-the-hoods position, but with a comfortable flare on the drops.  These are
 really nice bars, and it's a shame the design appears to be dead.

 Murray
 Victoria, BC
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[RBW] Re: Best Bag ever

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Yup, it's a Swiss Army 'bread bag' - somebody identified it for me off
list. Now, before you go out and buy one (they are absurdly cheap, I
found), here my story:

I've been riding with this bag since we found it, a few days.
Yesterday I was riding downtown, with a couple books and a u-lock in
it. All of a sudden, my rear wheel locked up and I came screeching to
a halt. Bewildered, I looked back to find that one of the leather
straps on the bag had come off and the pannier had swung into my
spokes and jammed into the rack and frame. I spent much of last night
truing and replacing bent spokes.

Upon closer inspection I found that the straps were not very well
secured - just some small tacking and a bit of stitching. This is
surprising, but perhaps if it really was for bread then it wasn't
meant to carry much weight. In any case, this will need to be
improved. I ordered a few of these bags the other day and plan on
taking one apart to see how it is constructed - especially where load-
bearing and reliability are concerned.

wc.

On Aug 5, 5:29 am, Don donl...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Hey,
 That looks like a military pouch. This summer I was in an Army/Navy
 surplus store
 in North Carolina and saw some bags similar to this one. I think the
 one I saw was
 Swiss. if I can find their address I am going to forward the photo to
 the store and see if they have some.
 Don

 On Aug 3, 3:35 am, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  Just the other day I was discussing bags with R., envisioning the
 perfectbagfor urban use.  It would be easy to attach, hold just
  enough, be stylish and practical off the bike, be mostly waterproof...

  I was trying to convince her to make the first, but she wasn't sure.
  Well, the next day she was walking down a quiet avenue in the magic
  morning fog and found the BestBagEver.  It exactly fits the criteria
  above, and I've never seen anything like it.  The main pouch holds a
  book, an apple (but not an Apple), pump and spare, a light sweater and
  your keys.  A waxed canvas top piece folds over and secures behind a
  leather band, ingeniously holding the shoulder strap in place when the
 bagis on your bike.  Two leather straps quickly snap onto the rack
  and snap off even easier (just tug).  Far quicker than Riv's leather
  straps, but more classic and secure-seeming than velcro.  On the
  outside there are two loops originally for godknowswhat that now fit a
  u-lock perfectly.  The whole thing is so elegant and clean, the work
  of an era past – and yet it seems clearly designed for the modern
  needs of bicycle transportation.  We wonder if it was originally an
  equestrian accessory.  The only distinguishing marks are the
  engravings on the leather stiffener: H BURKHARDT AADORF.

  Now obviously this is not only a wonderful gift from some two-wheeled
  gypsy goddess, but a sign that R. can and must copy and produce such a
 bagfor the rest of us.  Though it is without her consent, I'd like to
  see a show of hands of how many out there might be interested in such
  abag.  It would be hand crafted here in San Francisco, would be
  available for a Rivish but reasonable price, and might be available in
  a slightly larger version for toting a laptop.  If enough of you are
  interested, I'll try to make sure it happens.  Even if she declines,
  I'll at least take it to Riv and see if they can make good on it.

 http://twitpic.com/clv5s
  More pics later
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[RBW] Best Bag ever

[William Henderson]

Just the other day I was discussing bags with R., envisioning the
perfect bag for urban use.  It would be easy to attach, hold just
enough, be stylish and practical off the bike, be mostly waterproof...

I was trying to convince her to make the first, but she wasn't sure.
Well, the next day she was walking down a quiet avenue in the magic
morning fog and found the Best Bag Ever.  It exactly fits the criteria
above, and I've never seen anything like it.  The main pouch holds a
book, an apple (but not an Apple), pump and spare, a light sweater and
your keys.  A waxed canvas top piece folds over and secures behind a
leather band, ingeniously holding the shoulder strap in place when the
bag is on your bike.  Two leather straps quickly snap onto the rack
and snap off even easier (just tug).  Far quicker than Riv's leather
straps, but more classic and secure-seeming than velcro.  On the
outside there are two loops originally for godknowswhat that now fit a
u-lock perfectly.  The whole thing is so elegant and clean, the work
of an era past – and yet it seems clearly designed for the modern
needs of bicycle transportation.  We wonder if it was originally an
equestrian accessory.  The only distinguishing marks are the
engravings on the leather stiffener: H BURKHARDT AADORF.

Now obviously this is not only a wonderful gift from some two-wheeled
gypsy goddess, but a sign that R. can and must copy and produce such a
bag for the rest of us.  Though it is without her consent, I'd like to
see a show of hands of how many out there might be interested in such
a bag.  It would be hand crafted here in San Francisco, would be
available for a Rivish but reasonable price, and might be available in
a slightly larger version for toting a laptop.  If enough of you are
interested, I'll try to make sure it happens.  Even if she declines,
I'll at least take it to Riv and see if they can make good on it.

http://twitpic.com/clv5s
More pics later
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell racks

[William Henderson]

It seems to have been a design goal to make the load ride higher.  See
the description of the product on the site, or just its name =).

Take it or leave it - Riv/Grant does not seem to be into making
lorider racks.  Anyway there are already plenty of nice ones out
there.

wc.

On Jul 27, 5:53 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 The new front rack looks nice but has some design problems, IMHO.
 It sits very high on the bike, mainly because it is designed to mount
 through the canti studs..  The picture on the web site even shows a
 fork with rack braze-ons below the brakes.  If it comes with a second
 set of attachments, it cold be mounted a good bit lower on the fork,
 which would work a lot better.
 Michael

 On Jul 27, 6:18 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:



  There are pages up for two new racks on the Rivendell website. Both
  look interesting.

 http://www.rivbike.com//#product=20-203

  and

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bags_and_racks#product=20-187

  --mike
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell racks

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On Jul 28, 5:44 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
  However I
 now see the weight listed as  about 2 lbs. 15.5 oz.  I'm assuming
 that's a typo.

Sounds about right to me.  Hefty, eh?

.wc
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[RBW] Re: Stolen Atlantis

[William Henderson]

Hope you find it!

wc.

On Jul 9, 3:16 pm, Mike mikesw...@gmail.com wrote:
 My Atlantis was stolen back in February of this year. I just learned
 of this group yesterday. It is a 54.5 size- standard Atlantis color,
 mustache bars, large Nitto rear rack, bar end shifters and honey color
 brooks saddle- to give a quick, at a glance type description. Frame
 serial # AT1277. Bike was taken in San Diego, CA. Who could guess
 where it is by now though. So, if you find a really sweet deal on an
 Atlantis...let me know. Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order

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I will say that, while nice, the bag isn't perfect for canti breaks.
It hangs below the cable hanger for the front break and rubs against
the brake cable, putting a bit of weight on it when the bag has stuff
in it.  Not sure that's a big deal (may wear out bag and/or cables?)
but it could certainly be improved.  Otherwise, this little bag is
wonderful and I'm not complaining, given the price =).

wc.

On Jun 25, 6:35 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Me too. It's great. I can't believe it was considered a wrongly made
 bag (although I understand what they meant by that). They should make
 this one of the staple handlebar bags. I have the new bag on the
 handlebar of the Ram and the tweed mini-loafer in the rear. It's a good
 set-up for long S24 rides.

 On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Bruce wrote:



  ditto. Very nice quality leather trim.

  Hanging on the Saluki even as we speak

  From: d2mini d2creat...@gmail.com
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  Subject: [RBW] Re: Got the special tweed bag on order

  Mine was delivered today. Very nice! :)
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[RBW] Rivendells for Bicycle Cops

[William Henderson]

This post has absolutely no grounds in reality and I have little hope
of ever seeing it happen.

...anyway... I was reading an article a couple weeks back about how
poorly setup most police bicycles are.  Bike cops spends 6+ hours a
day in the saddle and they have all needs of a typical Rivendell
owner: need a dependable, durable bike; need to run big tires and
fenders; need to haul things; need a (dare I say) stylish ride.
However, most of the officers I see are stuck on poorly fitted
mountain bikes with tiny frames, low bars and crummy saddles.  Some
large percentage complain of pain in the groin, back, neck.  This is
sad, especially given that these are people who are there to improve
our streets and are also acting as important stewards of bike culture
(whatever your feelings about cops in general, bike cops are one of
the few large groups of bicyclists who use a bicycle in a public and
official capacity).  Feeling sad, I started wondering what bicycle
cops would be like if they rode around on comfortable, practical and
proud bicycles.

So I'm just indulging this fantasy, wondering what a Rivendell Police
Bike (the Rohirrim?) would look and act like.  As a starting point, it
would definitely have to be black (a good example here:
http://d2creative.smugmug.com/photos/51638748_QpZ2C-M.jpg - imagine
that with a set of sackville luggage), should probably use Riv's new
'expanded frame' geometry to make a given frame easier to fit (also,
cops probably spend a lot of time standing over the top tube), should
have some decent upright bars, huge slickish tires...
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[RBW] 60cm Quickbeam FS in SF

[William Henderson]

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1194364108.html

Not mine but that's not a bad price at all.
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[RBW] Re: perils of roofracks

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Flip side of the story: I got a great deal on my atlantis F/F/HS
because a previous owner hadn't secured it on his roof rack and it
fell down and put some superficial dents in the head tube.
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[RBW] Re: ARGH! Killed my fork!

[William Henderson]

You'll be fine with only one drop out.  This is why they make Riv's
out of steel!

wc.

On May 20, 8:43 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 Mark Nobilette, Riv's current custom builder, is in Denver...

 On May 20, 8:17 pm, boulderreccycle boulderreccy...@gmail.com wrote:



  I PROMISE I wasn't sword fighting vs. a carbon fork.  Bike tipped over
  on my roof rack, bending my right dropout (doesn't look like the fork
  blade is bent at all).  Any ideas of where to get this fixed?  I'm in
  Boulder, CO.  Should I call Riv and send it to those guys?  Anybody
  else get their frame or fork repaired by someone they'd recommend?
  The right dropout is 90 degrees to vertical.  Yikes.  Thanks, gang...
  - Chris
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[RBW] No Rivendell merit badge for you

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http://www.missionbicycle.com/blog/kirk/mission-bicycle-fiveten-studio-oakland#comment-1183
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[RBW] Re: FS: My Raleigh DL1: $333.00

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Sweet

On May 11, 1:40 pm, John at Rivendell j...@rivbike.com wrote:
 Probably Bay Area local sale only, since it would be a bear to pack.

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/1165684514.html

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[RBW] Re: Pitlock Seatpost Binder on my Atlantis

[William Henderson]

Here it is on my atlantis:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941...@n00/3513540540/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941...@n00/3512732367/in/photostream/


wc.


On May 6, 7:20 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
wrote:
 A while back on another thread, a fellow member mentioned that he had
 put a Pitlock seatpost binder on his Heron frame by using some
 creative use of washers.  He even provided 
 pictures:http://www.flickr.com/photos/24103...@n08/3465986632/in/set-721576171...

 I just did the same and it seems to work just fine.  I didn't put any
 washers on the outside - just enough to fill the recesses (I'm not
 even sure if that was necessary - it seems to hold fine without
 them).  According to Peter White and several posts here this shouldn't
 be possible, but as far as I can tell it isn't a problem.

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[RBW] Re: Pitlock Seatpost Binder on my Atlantis

[William Henderson]

I just placed some washers in the recesses to 'build them out'.
However, as I said, I'm not sure this was needed.  The pitlock fits
and works fine without them.

wc.

On May 8, 11:22 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm interested in how you were able to get the Pitlock seatpost binder
 bolt to work on your Atlantis. I have a Bleriot with a similar
 integrated seatpost collar, where the binder bolt head is recessed.
 You mentioned using washers, but I'm not clear on their placement.
 Thanks.

 On May 8, 10:33 am, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  Here it is on my 
  atlantis:http://www.flickr.com/photos/57941...@n00/3513540540/http://www.flick...

  wc.

  On May 6, 7:20 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   A while back on another thread, a fellow member mentioned that he had
   put a Pitlock seatpost binder on his Heron frame by using some
   creative use of washers.  He even provided 
   pictures:http://www.flickr.com/photos/24103...@n08/3465986632/in/set-721576171...

   I just did the same and it seems to work just fine.  I didn't put any
   washers on the outside - just enough to fill the recesses (I'm not
   even sure if that was necessary - it seems to hold fine without
   them).  According to Peter White and several posts here this shouldn't
   be possible, but as far as I can tell it isn't a problem.

   wc.
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[RBW] Pitlock Seatpost Binder on my Atlantis

[William Henderson]

A while back on another thread, a fellow member mentioned that he had
put a Pitlock seatpost binder on his Heron frame by using some
creative use of washers.  He even provided pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24103...@n08/3465986632/in/set-72157617180006138/

I just did the same and it seems to work just fine.  I didn't put any
washers on the outside - just enough to fill the recesses (I'm not
even sure if that was necessary - it seems to hold fine without
them).  According to Peter White and several posts here this shouldn't
be possible, but as far as I can tell it isn't a problem.

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here

[William Henderson]

What's wrong with a chaincase?

wc.

On Apr 24, 5:25 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 You could do a 3sp QB without coldsetting.

 I cringe at the thought of ruining a nice bike with a chaincase,
 though.

 On Apr 23, 9:39 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  Not so.  There have been many folks who have setup an 8+ speed
  Quickbeam simply by coldsetting the frame.  I'm not saying that's the
  best solution, but it has be done and works fine.  Still, I'd like to
  see a wider spaced Quickbeam, with all the braze-on fixin's for a
  proper internaly-geared setup (and braze-ons for a real chain case,
  while we're at it).

  wc. looks forward to the day where his touring bike can be the perfect
  city bike.  Or vice-versa.

  On Apr 23, 6:49 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   I'd buy one of those in a heart beat. The 120 spacing on my 'beam 
   precludes rigging with an internal 8 without respacing the chainstays.

   Sent From My iPhone

   On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:08 PM, William Henderson 
   william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote:

   I love the quickbeam.  Anyone else hoping they'll add one with an 8-
   speed internal hub?  Perfect city bike!

   wc.

   On Apr 23, 3:50 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote:
   The Quickbeams will always be cool, but orange was definitely my favorite.

   From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com
   Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
   To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Subject: [RBW] Quickbeams are here

   Just noticed this on the site:

   Sneak peak can be found here. We are building and shipping them AQAP.

  http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-150

   Cheers!
   cm
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here

[William Henderson]

I should clarify: I meant a 'full chain guard', not a 'chaincase'.

Something like this (less ugly, hopefully):
http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/images/Deluxe%207%20chain%20guard.jpg

Not this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cmAE9Fczut8/SDbsGL8EtkI/AYs/7DBoWaOyAlk/s400/chaincase

wc.

On Apr 24, 9:21 am, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
wrote:
 What's wrong with a chaincase?

 wc.

 On Apr 24, 5:25 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:



  You could do a 3sp QB without coldsetting.

  I cringe at the thought of ruining a nice bike with a chaincase,
  though.

  On Apr 23, 9:39 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   Not so.  There have been many folks who have setup an 8+ speed
   Quickbeam simply by coldsetting the frame.  I'm not saying that's the
   best solution, but it has be done and works fine.  Still, I'd like to
   see a wider spaced Quickbeam, with all the braze-on fixin's for a
   proper internaly-geared setup (and braze-ons for a real chain case,
   while we're at it).

   wc. looks forward to the day where his touring bike can be the perfect
   city bike.  Or vice-versa.

   On Apr 23, 6:49 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I'd buy one of those in a heart beat. The 120 spacing on my 'beam 
precludes rigging with an internal 8 without respacing the chainstays.

Sent From My iPhone

On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:08 PM, William Henderson 
william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote:

I love the quickbeam.  Anyone else hoping they'll add one with an 8-
speed internal hub?  Perfect city bike!

wc.

On Apr 23, 3:50 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote:
The Quickbeams will always be cool, but orange was definitely my 
favorite.

From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com
Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Quickbeams are here

Just noticed this on the site:

Sneak peak can be found here. We are building and shipping them AQAP.

   http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-150

Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here

[William Henderson]

I love the quickbeam.  Anyone else hoping they'll add one with an 8-
speed internal hub?  Perfect city bike!

wc.

On Apr 23, 3:50 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote:
 The Quickbeams will always be cool, but orange was definitely my favorite.



  From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com
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  Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [RBW] Quickbeams are here

  Just noticed this on the site:

  Sneak peak can be found here. We are building and shipping them AQAP.

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-150

  Cheers!
  cm
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here

[William Henderson]

Not so.  There have been many folks who have setup an 8+ speed
Quickbeam simply by coldsetting the frame.  I'm not saying that's the
best solution, but it has be done and works fine.  Still, I'd like to
see a wider spaced Quickbeam, with all the braze-on fixin's for a
proper internaly-geared setup (and braze-ons for a real chain case,
while we're at it).

wc. looks forward to the day where his touring bike can be the perfect
city bike.  Or vice-versa.

On Apr 23, 6:49 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I'd buy one of those in a heart beat. The 120 spacing on my 'beam precludes 
 rigging with an internal 8 without respacing the chainstays.

 Sent From My iPhone

 On Apr 23, 2009, at 6:08 PM, William Henderson 
 william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love the quickbeam.  Anyone else hoping they'll add one with an 8-
 speed internal hub?  Perfect city bike!

 wc.

 On Apr 23, 3:50 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote:
 The Quickbeams will always be cool, but orange was definitely my favorite.

 From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com
 Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Quickbeams are here

 Just noticed this on the site:

 Sneak peak can be found here. We are building and shipping them AQAP.

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/bicycle_models#product=50-150

 Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[William Henderson]

Interesting.  I may try putting a pitlock on my atlantis seat post and
ditching the leash...

On Apr 22, 8:37 am, Len Lescosky 172tur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Someone asked off-list for a photo of the pitlock seatpost binder
 bolt. Currently I have it on a Heron, which is more or less the same
 thing.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/24103...@n08/sets/72157617180006138/

 In this flickr set I included the pitlock, a comparable Rivendell
 shot, and some other standard binder bolts. To use something other
 than a standard seatpost binder bolt I head over to Ace Hardware and
 get whatever stainless steel washers make the replacement bolt work.

 Len

 On Apr 19, 9:48 am, Len Lescosky 172tur...@gmail.com wrote:



  Pitlocks including saddle pit and mini U-lock

  or

  Mini U-lock and independent cable lock for wheels.

  Len in Atlanta
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[RBW] Re: xo-1 - in box on ebay

[William Henderson]

You guys will never guess what I saw in the park today.

Nah!  Couldn't be!  But you never see them new...and it's looks like
a 52...

Long story short I met the proud new owner of the XO-1 today and rest
assured that it is being ridden as Grant intended.  He hasn't changed
a thing about it - original tires and tubes (still hold air), original
white corky tape, and of course those classic bars.  He is going to
put a third chainring on, though =)


Here's proof:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/koshi/3453519772/

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[RBW] Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[William Henderson]

If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less.  If the
former, no explanation needed or wanted.

Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock -
two sometimes)
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[William Henderson]

I meant no explanation if you have a second bike.
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[RBW] Re: New York Times Fashion Pieces on Dutch Bicycles

[William Henderson]

Personally, I was really happy about this article.  Sure it was a bit
superficial at times, even trite - but this is mainstream coverage of
bicycles, and USEFUL ones at that!  With all the work that NYC has
been doing on their bicycle infrastructure of late, it's nice to see
some work done on the culture as well.

Rivs make great and comfortable rambling machines and wide tires,
relaxed geometry, and load-carrying abilities are all crucial features
for a city bike.  But for what it's worth, I think there's still a
thing or two Riv could learn from the Dutch bikes.

wc.

On Apr 17, 12:11 am, aaronweis aaronw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Funny lil bit about dutch bicycles as a new accessory in 
 fashion.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/fashion/16CODES.html?em

 Fashion show with absurdly expensive outfits, and an equally absurdly
 priced vintage Raleigh 3 speed at 
 $275!http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/04/15/fashion/20090416-codes-sl...

 Someone talking about the pleasures of upright bicycles.  I especially
 liked the line, for men, there's been a little bit of a stigma
 associated with things like fenders and a chainguard.  Ha!! I guess
 it depends on what biking circles you run in.  No stigma in this group
 that I'm aware 
 of.http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/04/15/style/20090416-dutchbik...
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[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

[William Henderson]

That's one of my favorite grant posts in a long time.

wc.

On Apr 13, 7:06 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think someone has been listening in on our conversation...

 http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/125





 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think a blog is made by being updated somewhat regularly.  The whole
  idea is that it is easier and quicker for the writer to update the
  blog and get it published than it is to update the website, Riv could
  have used one years ago during the long dark period when their website
  bore little or no basis to reality. VO is probably one of the better
  bike industry blogs there is. You read it then click through to their
  products and maybe you buy something. Riv does not post enough to get
  people to visit daily or even weekly.

  On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net
  wrote:

   I second Gino's thoughts.  VO's comments often become very petty and
   devolve into sniping.  Makes you wonder why the people who are
   interested in VO's fine products behave that way.  Unlike this forum,
   I don't really want to be one of their group.

   I agree with that. Comments do not make a blog. I just like the
   regularity of the posts to VO's blog and the interesting doo-dads it
   includes.

   Maybe if there was a nice way of seeing ALL of the new items or
   changed descriptions or what-not on rbw's website then I wouldn't need
   to hunt around to see the new staff bikes section, for example.

   -sv

  --
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  tas at tariksaleh dot com
  in los alamos, po box 208, 87544
 http://tariksaleh.com
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[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

[William Henderson]

also, a news section != a blog.

no comments.

On Apr 12, 9:15 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I meant a frequently updated blog.  :-)

 On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
  It's called Peeking Through the Knothole, available atwww.rivbike.com

  :-)

  On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

  they should have a blog

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[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

[William Henderson]

Yup.  Saying it wasn't a blog wasn't meant to imply it should be.  The
average blog comments section is filled with the most mindless, inane
stuff...though the VO blog comments seems pretty good.

It might be nice, though, to have some sort of digital medium (other
than this list) for readers to express themselves.  So many of you are
quite knowledgeable, and all of us passionate, of course...

Maybe a wiki?

wc.

On Apr 13, 3:04 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Knowing the caliber of some of the comments that a Riv mention in some
 cycling magazines would likely provoke, i'm very happy that there
 *aren't* comments on the Riv news area. This list serves well as a
 commentary on the company and products, and the level of discourse
 here is way higher than the average string of blog comments. I'd love
 to have more Readers or a weekly new post from Grant, but i suspect
 that the increased blog-type posts would include more the sort of
 limit-pushing ideas and experimentation that would raise the most
 howls and tend to drive him away again.

 --
 Bill Connell
 St. Paul, MN

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 william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote:

  also, a news section != a blog.

  no comments.

  On Apr 12, 9:15 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok, I meant a frequently updated blog.  :-)

  On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
   It's called Peeking Through the Knothole, available atwww.rivbike.com

   :-)

   On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM, David Estes 
   cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

   they should have a blog

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[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

[William Henderson]

None of these are really groaners - just things I wish Riv would do/do
more of:
- Internally geared bikes.  Until they build a full chainguard for a
front derailler, anyway.  'Bout the only thing that bugs me about my
Atlantis is rolling up my pants before I jump on.
- Lighting.  It's a complicated and confusing world, and Riv's current
offerings don't seem sufficient.  I wish they had more so I could buy
from them and life would be simple and good again.
- Plastic fenders.  Really, I just can't love the SKS fenders.
- Panniers.  Love my ortliebs, but I'd much rather see Riv carrying
some nice looking, waterproofish, easy to mount MUSA ones.  I've heard
something is in the works..
- s'more books/articles helping people who are trying to get into
touring.

Oh, and despite all the convincing arguments and silliness of special
shoes, I think I'll always love my clipless petals.  That's probably
just me, though.

As for the loves - I think most of them have been covered by y'all.  I
love my Atlantis more every time I ride it, sometimes even when its
just sitting in the house waiting to be take out.  Cornering on JB's
is a wonderful thing.

wc.

On Apr 13, 6:40 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Love: Grant's cycling philosophy and writing style, his willingness to
 put new ideas into the stream, and the general wackiness like the
 ongoing 'e'-less Raven contest. The value of beausage (whether you
 like his word for it or not). I also support the idea of the new
 Taiwanese-built frames, in the hope that it means i can eventually
 afford a Quickbeam-like frame.

 Meh: Lack of continuity in things like the bike bags. I'm sure this is
 as much as supplier issue as anything, but it would be good to have a
 core lineup of things like the Atlantis. I liked the Speedblends too,
 i thought they were pretty cool, but probably too expensive for the
 younger crowd that might take to them better.

 --
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 St. Paul, MN
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[RBW] Re: UK touring documentary

[William Henderson]

This was lovely!  Thanks for sharing.

wc.

On Apr 4, 5:51 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
 This is an interesting bit about touring and also shows the UK as it
 was in the 1970s...very nostalgic for me.
 Nice use of Carradice capes and saddlebags is shown in part 2

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKfNK...eature=related

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahGaL6ehjcNR=1
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[RBW] Re: xo-1 - in box on ebay

[William Henderson]

holy st. patrick!

On Apr 3, 7:54 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think this counts as rivendell-ish:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150336604999

 Supposedly a 1993 xo-1 still in the box.

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[RBW] Re: Zefal Lock'n'Roll System

[William Henderson]

Good question.  Maybe the black will polish off...

On Jan 19, 1:12 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 TheZefaldoo-dads are very interesting.  When do they come in silver?

 On Jan 19, 10:36 am, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  The Pitlocks are nice looking - anyone know if the seatpost lock will
  fit on my Atlantis?

  On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   I lock up my Atlantis often in SF, as well as my Quickbeam and 
   Canti-Rom.  You need to pick your spot, certainly, and cable lace the 
   wheels.  That said, have you looked at the pit-lock system sold by Peter 
   White?  I think that's a better locking system.  Pricey, but tougher to 
   bust.

   RS

   --- On Sun, 1/18/09, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
   From: William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
   Subject: [RBW]ZefalLock'n'Roll System
   To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 12:10 PM

   Not sure when it was added, but I just noticed theZefal
   Lock'n'Roll
   anti-theft QR skewers for sale on Riv's 
   website:http://www.rivbike.com/#product=18-304

   Sounds like an awesome idea!  I'd be curious to hear if anyone's tried
   them.  I loath to lock up my Atlantis in SF, and this might help me
   worry a little less about those wheels I built.  Now, the next
   question is, of course: what about the saddle?  Fact is,
  Zefal's
   apparently already thought of that.  According to their website, they
   sell a set with a skewer for the saddle too.  You can buy it 
   here:http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/page.php?nom=PRODUITppkey=5905F...

   Now I wonder why Riv doesn't sell that one?  It looks like the saddle
   skewer might not fit in a Riv?  I sure hope not...
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[RBW] Re: Zefal Lock'n'Roll System

[William Henderson]

Note however that I still haven't seen anyone stress test these.  For
now at least, I'd still recommend cable locking the wheels...

On Feb 4, 1:23 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Just got the word from Spencer at Rivendell: theZefalseat post
 things ARE compatible and they are for 
 sale:http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/saddles_and_seat_posts#product=1...

 wc.

 On Jan 19, 1:21 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:



  The pitlock seatpost binder is not compatible with Rivendell frames.
  In fact, they're not compatible with much.

  On Jan 19, 12:36 pm, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   The Pitlocks are nice looking - anyone know if the seatpost lock will
   fit on my Atlantis?

   On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I lock up my Atlantis often in SF, as well as my Quickbeam and 
Canti-Rom.  You need to pick your spot, certainly, and cable lace the 
wheels.  That said, have you looked at the pit-lock system sold by 
Peter White?  I think that's a better locking system.  Pricey, but 
tougher to bust.

RS

--- On Sun, 1/18/09, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com 
wrote:
From: William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
Subject: [RBW]ZefalLock'n'Roll System
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 12:10 PM

Not sure when it was added, but I just noticed theZefal
Lock'n'Roll
anti-theft QR skewers for sale on Riv's 
website:http://www.rivbike.com/#product=18-304

Sounds like an awesome idea!  I'd be curious to hear if anyone's tried
them.  I loath to lock up my Atlantis in SF, and this might help me
worry a little less about those wheels I built.  Now, the next
question is, of course: what about the saddle?  Fact is,
   Zefal's
apparently already thought of that.  According to their website, they
sell a set with a skewer for the saddle too.  You can buy it 
here:http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/page.php?nom=PRODUITppkey=5905F...

Now I wonder why Riv doesn't sell that one?  It looks like the saddle
skewer might not fit in a Riv?  I sure hope not...
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[RBW] Re: Zefal Lock'n'Roll System

[William Henderson]

The Pitlocks are nice looking - anyone know if the seatpost lock will
fit on my Atlantis?

On Jan 18, 2:07 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I lock up my Atlantis often in SF, as well as my Quickbeam and Canti-Rom.  
 You need to pick your spot, certainly, and cable lace the wheels.  That said, 
 have you looked at the pit-lock system sold by Peter White?  I think that's a 
 better locking system.  Pricey, but tougher to bust.

 RS

 --- On Sun, 1/18/09, William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: William Henderson william.c.hender...@gmail.com
 Subject: [RBW] Zefal Lock'n'Roll System
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 12:10 PM

 Not sure when it was added, but I just noticed the Zefal
 Lock'n'Roll
 anti-theft QR skewers for sale on Riv's 
 website:http://www.rivbike.com/#product=18-304

 Sounds like an awesome idea!  I'd be curious to hear if anyone's tried
 them.  I loath to lock up my Atlantis in SF, and this might help me
 worry a little less about those wheels I built.  Now, the next
 question is, of course: what about the saddle?  Fact is,
 Zefal's
 apparently already thought of that.  According to their website, they
 sell a set with a skewer for the saddle too.  You can buy it 
 here:http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/page.php?nom=PRODUITppkey=5905F...

 Now I wonder why Riv doesn't sell that one?  It looks like the saddle
 skewer might not fit in a Riv?  I sure hope not...
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[RBW] Zefal Lock'n'Roll System

[William Henderson]

Not sure when it was added, but I just noticed the Zefal Lock'n'Roll
anti-theft QR skewers for sale on Riv's website:
http://www.rivbike.com/#product=18-304

Sounds like an awesome idea!  I'd be curious to hear if anyone's tried
them.  I loath to lock up my Atlantis in SF, and this might help me
worry a little less about those wheels I built.  Now, the next
question is, of course: what about the saddle?  Fact is, Zefal's
apparently already thought of that.  According to their website, they
sell a set with a skewer for the saddle too.  You can buy it here:
http://www.xxcycle.com/php/boutique/page.php?nom=PRODUITppkey=5905FROM=froogle

Now I wonder why Riv doesn't sell that one?  It looks like the saddle
skewer might not fit in a Riv?  I sure hope not...
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[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's

[William Henderson]

I work for Apple and just build my first Riv.


wc.

On Jan 13, 7:14 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be fun here,
 too.

 How many Riv owners are Mac-owners?

 Conjured up a quick survey here 
 -http://www.opinionpower.com/Surveys/257056185.html

 - Jim

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[RBW] Re: front derailer question

[William Henderson]

I've got the same setup on my Atlantis except I went with the Sora
derailler.  Works great - just the right clearance and never throws
the chain.

wc.

Doug Peterson wrote:
 Fellow Rivendellers:



 What FDs work best on an Atlantis, set up with a triple?  I bought mine from
 Riv as a complete bike in 03  here's the back story:



 My Atlantis came with a Sugino XD crank with 24/36/46 rings  a Shimano
 Deore FD (just plain Deore; no extra letters or numbers on it).  Setting the
 FD with as little clearance as possible to the chainstay, there is a large
 gap between the outer cage plate  the big ring.  I've always tried to get
 that gap down to 1/16 on other bikes but this isn't possible on the
 Atlantis.  It's more like 3/8.



 The bike shifted OK with the original rings (some pins  ramps) but has
 always been sensitive about FD travel  a bit prone to tossing the chain
 over the big ring.  A few months back I finally replaced the original rings
 with a 34  44 that I had in stock.  Now the chain tossing has become
 annoying.



 Just chopping off the bottom of the FD to allow it to fit closer to the
 rings is an obvious kluge but if there's a simple FD replacement that's a
 better fit I'd be interested in hearing it.  What works for others?



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[RBW] Looking for Light Touring Bike in Bay Area...

[William Henderson]

Hey All,
I'm in San Francisco and looking for a lighter steel bike to do some
daily road rides, S24O's and occasional longer tours.  I pack light
and am a light rider (~150lbs) so I was looking at the AHH/Bleriot or
equivalent instead of the Atlantis, even though I plan on some longer
(500m+) rides in the distant future.  Mostly though, I want it to be
fast enough for quicker day rides and quick trips.  Anyway, I'm about
6 feet and a 59cm AHH felt just about right last time I rode one.
$3200's a bit much for my pocket book...I have built bikes before so
I'm thinking of buying the frame and then parting it up myself, but
thought I might check here first in hopes of finding something.  Also
interested in the Bleriot but of course it seems to have gone the way
of the Dodo and I don't know much about those 650b's.  Anybody got
some advice or else a bike to sell me?  thanks,

wc.

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