Re: [RBW] Favorite Rivendell model names?

[J.Schwartz]

I don’t think anyone mentioned the Long Low. Love that one 

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[RBW] Jan's post

[j.schwartz]

It appears that Jan's post was taken down.  Either he took it down himself 
or the moderator did.

For those of you that missed it , Jan is offering to pass on the revenue 
from Bicycle Quarterly subscriptions to Black Lives Matter 
LINK HERE 


If his original post was taken down by anyone other than Jan,  I find this 
deeply disturbing.

There are currently active posts on this RBW Owners Bunch google group 
related to fly fishing rods, "wrenching for the homeless" , Nikon cameras 
and someone seeing advice on a recumbent bike for their dad

None of those are really in line with what this group is supposed to 
discuss. 

Jan is offering a magazine that most, if not all, members would be 
interested in and letting the group know that currently he's donating those 
funds to an organization.Grant has done similar promotions to inspire 
his customer base to buy items that would benefit a cause.

If the cause Jan is supporting doesn't appeal to you, then don't buy the 
magazines.   But, if this group can't handle the content of Jans' post or 
is somehow offended by the prospect of supporting Black Lives Matter, then 
that is a sad reflection on the nature of this online community.

I suspect this group is comprised of *mostly* older white men.   That is 
important to keep in check when analyzing why this post may have been 
removed. 
I would like to know why it is gone.  
I do hope Jan removed it himself.



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[RBW] WTB quickbeam or simple one

[j.schwartz]

Are you looking for F/F/HS or complete ?

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[RBW] Re: WTB quickbeam or simple one

[j.schwartz]

I think you'd actually be a 58 on that bike...for more roadish use...  56 
would work too
I'm 5'10" with an 84.5pbh and have a 58 SO ...and used to have a 58 
QBboth with tires maxed out.  it wasn't too big.




On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 9:46:46 AM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> Likely a long shot. Probably a 54 or 56. 5’10 and 84 PBH. 

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[RBW] Re: Dark Green B17 Special

[j.schwartz]

Thanks Benz
Looks like that links to a saddle that's been purchased...maybe I was too 
slow.
JS



On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 8:57:03 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
> A bit expensive for a used Brooks, but this  is 
> available. I know that someone was discounting titanium-railed Finesse 
> saddles (fits like a short B17) for about $150 on eBay, but those seemed to 
> have sold out.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: WOOL here (Riv Aussie, jerseys - short/long, new & used)

[j.schwartz]

Hi David
not sure if you received my PM
following up re: the Green Short Sleeve shirt
thanks
Jason 

On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 10:11:08 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> I’ll take the green short sleeve 
> Thank you 

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[RBW] FS: WOOL here (Riv Aussie, jerseys - short/long, new & used)

[j.schwartz]

I’ll take the green short sleeve 
Thank you 

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[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[j.schwartz]

Root Beer!


On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:32:22 AM UTC-4, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
> Getting back to the original topic, what is the old color being brought 
> back for the new batch if Hillbornes? I would guess by the wording that 
> it’s not a color that was previously used for Hillbornes. There’s been some 
> nice greens in the past - as dark one that some Simple Ones had. That would 
> look great. I’ve seen a copper/cream color on some Homers and Legolas 
> models over the years. Might be my favorite Rivendell color ever. I think 
> the black/cream and sage ones were the best colors the model has come in so 
> far. There’s been a lot of blue and orange variations over the years, but 
> who knows? 
>
> Eamon 
> Seattle 

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[j.schwartz]

Hey David
the saddle is from Obsidian Monarch
it was a birthday gift from a friend of mine a few years ago...his friend 
makes these saddles in CA.
I think he uses old Brooks frames and stretches new leathers over them and 
does some psychedelic artwork etching in the leather.
http://www.obsidianmonarch.com




On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 4:45:31 PM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote:
>
> Please tell us about that saddle cover. Custom leatherwork to a Berthoud?
> Really nice!
>
> David Lipsky
>
> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 8:46:13 AM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> Farmers Market Run
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[j.schwartz]

What are the approximate sizes for the tubes here?
Did you spec the wheel size or did GP ? 
Plans for racks? Looks great.



On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:13:35 AM UTC-4, Bill Schairer wrote:
>
> “ It's perfect. Comfortable, beautiful, with a nice springy 
> ride..basically it's a Rivendell. But a Rivendell built to my size and 
> riding style, with my CRAZY-good-looking choice of Joe Bell paint. I'm so 
> glad I finally did this, I love it!” 
>
> Joe, 
>
> I had a custom touring bike built for me in 1978 and it is still the bike 
> I ride the most.  42 years plus what you expressed  is what makes it so so 
> worth it.  Congratulations.  That is YOUR bike and nobody else has one. 
>
> Bill S 

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[RBW] good deal on 60cm Ram near Phoenix

[j.schwartz]

no relation , just came across this listing:
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bik/d/mesa-rivendell-rambouillet-road-bike/7113747837.html

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

[j.schwartz]

FYI
the old Tektro arms that are on there now (not sure of the model number) 
are 110mm from center of bolt to brake wire.





On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 9:29:04 AM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the info everybody and especially the chart of arm lengths.

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[RBW] Re: Tall Arm V-Brakes

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Thanks for all the info everybody and especially the chart of arm lengths.

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[RBW] Re: Analog Cycles: Free Tubeless Clinic on Instagram Live

[j.schwartz]

Maybe headset installs and maintenance?  also BB install and removal. 
 (also the associated tools needed)
I guess most people on this list are using threaded headsets and sq.tape 
bb's.
It's sort of the last frontier of home mechanics since the frames often 
come with the headsets and bottom brackets installed.




On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:
>
> Hey thanks to everyone who showed up yesterday evening.  We had a really 
> good turn out.  Thanks to Leah for putting it together.  Now that I can 
> post in real time, I'll be able to easily add more clinics.  Holler with 
> ideas, we'll try to get to them all.  Right now we are thinking:  
>
>
>- How to wrap bars / shellac / twine.  It's easy, but we'll break it 
>down so you KNOW it's easy.
>- Basic wheel truing
>- Basic derailleur adjustments
>- Adjusting Canti brakes and installing new pads
>- Adjusting mechanical disc brakes, truing rotors
>- Adjusting V brakes, installing new pads
>- Clean your drivetrain and re oil
>- Drop bar and saddle set up
>- Customize your cloth handlebar tape
>
> We can also do talks on things, rather than just clinics, IE geometry 
> talks, fitting talks, gearing, wheel building, loading your bike, ways to 
> make bad coffee taste good, top 5 melvins albums, early american gardens, 
> etc.  
>
> I'm thinking we'll push the clinics back to 8pm so folks out west can more 
> easily join in.  Probably try to do two a week, Mondays and Wednesdays.
>
> -James / Analog Cycles
>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 4:59:03 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> ***Posted on behalf of James and Candice, whose posts are delayed on the 
>> List*** 
>>
>> Analog Cycles, a Rivendell dealer out of rural Vermont has mounted 500 
>> tubeless tires and counting. They have honed their technique and are 
>> willing to share their tips on all things tubeless. James and Candice are 
>> offering us a FREE tubeless clinic. They will cover tubeless mounting, 
>> maintenance, and flat-fixing via an Instagram Live session. You will be 
>> able to ask your questions via text during the video and get your answers, 
>> straight from Analog. 
>>
>> If you’ve been considering going tubeless or if you have just wanted to 
>> know how it all works, join us Wednesday, April 15 at 5 pm EASTERN time. 
>> Most folks are working from home, so hope those from other time zones can 
>> hop on. Follow Analog Cycles on Instagram and look for them to go live 4.15 
>> at 5pm EST. 
>>
>> Thanks so much, James and Candice - I can’t wait to tune in. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: First(ish) impressions of Sam Hillborne

[j.schwartz]

looks pretty much perfect. Congrats.
I've had a few Rivs come in and out of my life and currently have 4 (Sam, 
Joe, Clem, SimpleOne)
The only one that I've never thought about moving on is my very first Riv. 
 A 2009 first generation 56cm Sam.
If I only kept one bike, that would be it.  






On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 10:03:37 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Congratulations on acquiring a Sam. They do rock! Love mine. Only wish it 
> had canti brakes.
>
> What saddle bag are you using?
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 10:16:39 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
>>
>> Following along on the Roadini thread...
>>
>> I just finished building up my Sam H. and could not be happier. I knew I 
>> wanted a Rivendell, but I churned internally for years about which model 
>> was going to the 'right' model for me. I was looking for something to ride 
>> 70/30 road/trail, mostly unloaded and with big clearances. I had zero'd in 
>> on a Sam early on but I couldn't stop thinking that it would be too 'stiff 
>> and heavy' for its intended usage. My fears were completely unfounded and 
>> -- to me at least -- the Sam feels just as "fast" as the Columbus SL tube'd 
>> Basso frame it replaced. The only major departure (as far as ride quality 
>> is concerned) is that the Sam is several orders of magnitude more 
>> comfortable. 
>>
>> A *huge* (and long overdue) "thank you" goes out to Jason, Mike and co. 
>> at Maine Bike Works  for sourcing the 
>> frame and working with my now wife to surprise me with it a few seasons 
>> ago. I can't speak more highly of the work they do and urge anyone in the 
>> area to check them out.
>>
>> Here's the high level build specs:
>> 55cm Canti Sam Hillborne
>> Campagnolo Veloce 10 Speed Ergos
>> Crust Towel Rack bars
>> Paul Neo Retro / Touring Canti
>> 9 speed Shimano XT Shadow mech
>> CX-50 front der.
>> TA Zephyr crank (46/34)
>> Velocity Quill rims / Generic Velocity Hubs
>> Compass Snoqualmie Pass tires
>>
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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[j.schwartz]

Hudson Valley, about two hour north of the city
Been up here for about 3 years after many years in Brooklyn 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Saluki on Ebay

[j.schwartz]

Was unusual for this frame to be made without canti posts? or there were 
just different runs?
Does anyone know the standover for the 56 with presumably the max tires 
under fenders?  This frame was essentially a 650b proto hilsen if I 
remember correctly?
Were there any differences? 
How is it different from a Bleriot?





On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 3:29:38 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I tell ya, Ted, I love the traditional look of a flat toptube but I see 
> why they've largely fallen out of favor. The reach on that frame would fit 
> me perfect with a Bosco-ish bar, but the saddle would be slammed and I 
> would have 0 standover. Dangit! 

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Re: [RBW] Clem L 3-speed traily camper van

[j.schwartz]

Hey Patrick 
I really just wanted to use the Melvin,...fun project. 
I'm sure I could've cobbled together a 3 speed cassette with spacers, etc 
and done it more like a 1x.  not sure about range though.



On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 11:54:22 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'm curious why you choose 3 chainrings and 1 cog instead of 3 cogs and 1 
> chainring, given that the latter system is simpler (the latter requires 
> just one chain management device instead of 2) and gives greater ratio 
> variety for a given tooth difference. I'm not complaining, just asking.
>
> That aside, me, I love 3 speeds.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:51 PM j.schwartz  > wrote:
>
>> I've been riding this a lot lately after finishing up the build over the 
>> winter ...and it's feeling very good
>> 59cm Clem L , new batch 
>> 44/34/24 Silver Crankset with an 18t cog in the back and a Paul Melvin 
>> tensioner.  
>> I'm usually in the 34 ring and will push into the 44 when moving along on 
>> flats.   The low 24/18 combo is pretty good for climbing , but I have't 
>> tested it out on a long climb with full saddleback.  That's the older large 
>> version btw. 
>> I'm loving riding on 29x2.35's (Thanks Adam) ...still need to wire up the 
>> tail light and I'm envisioning a Nitto basket rack with my large Wald up 
>> front .
>> Here's to hoping the New York State opens up those campgrounds before the 
>> summer is over 
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[RBW] Re: Chocomoose Versions

[j.schwartz]

One more question about this bar...for anyone..
Could someone who is currently using the bar give me a sense of the forward 
reach for the hand position that is the curved & dropped area when the 
stem is moderately low to slammed?
I know this would change depending on head tube angle ,, etc but we all 
ride similar bikes.
I'm currently riding a 55 Appa and I'm on the lower end of the sizing 
spectrum for that bike.
It's got 29x2.1 tires and it's both tall and long , for me.  Not *too* tall 
or long but I wouldn't put a long stem on this bike unless I was bars that 
swept back generously.
Currently, I'm running flared drops with one of those Analog 30mm quill 
stems.
I'd like to know if the hand position on the bars where the curves that 
drop down would be too stretched out for me.  
thank you



On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 10:32:51 AM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Thanks Joe
> I think the optical illusion with this bar and photos is based on how much 
> ppl slam the stem or not.
> To my eye, and knowing what I know about how I like to set up my bikes, a 
> bike with this bar set up high doesn't seem that it would be comfortable to 
> me, however on some of the photos I've seen where it's pretty low or even 
> slammed, it looks like it would sync up with my riding style.  Also my 
> bikes have pretty long head tubes, (first gen SH, Apppaloosa, 2019 Clem)
> Do you have a sense on what the vertical extension would be if the moose 
> were slammed?
> Thanks for the reach number.
> Jason 
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 10:06:44 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Forgot the pic. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 7:02:41 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> > I did an 'eyeing it' measurement on my ChocoMoose from top of my 
>> headset to the theoretical top of the stem if it went up parallel to the 
>> top of the bar like a 7-shaped stem would. I got about 17.5cm with it 
>> buried a couple mm below the Max Height line. Stem reach is 12cm. 
>> > 
>> > Hopefully this gives you a rough idea of height and reach when deciding 
>> if your bike can use a ChocoMoose.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Chocomoose Versions

[j.schwartz]

Thanks Joe
I think the optical illusion with this bar and photos is based on how much 
ppl slam the stem or not.
To my eye, and knowing what I know about how I like to set up my bikes, a 
bike with this bar set up high doesn't seem that it would be comfortable to 
me, however on some of the photos I've seen where it's pretty low or even 
slammed, it looks like it would sync up with my riding style.  Also my 
bikes have pretty long head tubes, (first gen SH, Apppaloosa, 2019 Clem)
Do you have a sense on what the vertical extension would be if the moose 
were slammed?
Thanks for the reach number.
Jason 




On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 10:06:44 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Forgot the pic. 
>
> On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 7:02:41 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > I did an 'eyeing it' measurement on my ChocoMoose from top of my headset 
> to the theoretical top of the stem if it went up parallel to the top of the 
> bar like a 7-shaped stem would. I got about 17.5cm with it buried a couple 
> mm below the Max Height line. Stem reach is 12cm. 
> > 
> > Hopefully this gives you a rough idea of height and reach when deciding 
> if your bike can use a ChocoMoose.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Chocomoose Versions

[j.schwartz]

Thanks all
Maybe I am thinking of the BoscoMooses.
The context with which I'm asking the question is really just about knowing 
as I'm interested in potentially getting a set and when looking at photos 
of other bikes online with this bar, some look slightly different to my eye 
than others.  Really it's that sometimes, when viewing a photo of the 
chocomoose, it looks like it would work well for me (I like the 
downward/flipped drop of the bars) and sometimes it doesn't .
Only one way to find out. 
I didn't know blue lug sold those bars new.  Very interesting. 

On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 4:24:19 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
>
> I think there was only one batch of 200mm bullmoose bars, with all the 
> others being 150mm. I suspect they are rare and am glad to have one. 
> Similarly I’m glad I snagged a chocomoose before they were all gone 
> (apparently for good). 
> As others have observed elsewhere, if rbw has something you want buy it 
> directly. Do not assume it’ll be there in the future.

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[RBW] Chocomoose Versions

[j.schwartz]

Greetings, 
hope everyone is staying safe and sane out there.
Question about the Chocomoose bars.
Were there multiple versions of this integrated stem/bar handlebar?  Was 
there an initial version that was improved later on?
thanks
JS

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[RBW] Re: What Fenders Are These?

[j.schwartz]

Is is possible it could be these 63mm VO fenders?
Looks like it , including the kick-in bend for the rear to make room for 
the chainrings 
https://velo-orange.com/collections/fenders/products/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c


On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 6:01:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> SimWorks by Honjo. I believe this is the fender on that Appaloosa.
>  
> https://sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo/products/smooth-62?variant=24951437955
>
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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[j.schwartz]

No, it's the Spank Flare bar that Analog sells 
https://www.analogcycles.com/product/spank-flare-25-degree-bars/
unique in that its 31.8mm around all the way across the flats , from the 
clamp area until the the bends ...really comfortable on the hands.




On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:37:28 PM UTC-4, David Hays wrote:
>
> Hi J,
> Nice build. Is that the On One Midge Bar?
> Thanks.
> David
>
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 6:15 PM, j.schwartz  > wrote:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
> Appaloosa after some minor tweaks, including silver shifters on 31.8 Paul 
> mounts,  on a ride in New York today 
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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[j.schwartz]

one of the best oranges Riv has done , especially lately 




On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 7:06:33 PM UTC-4, Ann L wrote:
>
> Beautiful bike and congratulations!  I am intrigued by the chain 
> ring/crank set up.  What components did you use?
>
> On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 1:04:09 PM UTC-6, Bill F wrote:
>>
>> Appaloosa presale is up today.   
>>
>> I pulled the trigger on a blue 60 cm for my first Rivendell.
>
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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

[j.schwartz]

Thanks Bill
good food for thought

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 4:00:43 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I've had two bikes set up with 42 in front and 11-32 in back.  My Sam 
> Hillborne, which I use as an all-purpose road bike, and have done several 
> 200k brevets and one 300k on it in moderately hilly California.  My Legolas 
> is also set up 42x11-32.  
>
> I converted my Hillborne back to a 3x9 to prepare it for loaded touring.  
>
> I use 2x10 drivetrains more often.  My traditional brevet bike has a 42/26 
> and an 11-28 cassette.  My Roadeo is 46/30 and a 12-27 cassette.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> Bill
>> In your experience a 42 single ring up front and an 11-32, say 10-speed, 
>> cassette in the back is appropriate for a more roadish bike with moderate 
>> to sometimes intense hills?
>> I will be building up a similar bike and have some Sram Apex 10-speed 
>> drivetrain bits including cassette, derailleur and brifters, but no 
>> crankset yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
>>> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
>>> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
>>> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
>>> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
>>> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
>>> than a 42x11.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me 
>>>> here. I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No 
>>>> club rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no 
>>>> hills to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are 
>>>> perfect, and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. 
>>>> I'd like to keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has 
>>>> to look handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single 
>>>> speed lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>>>> getting something new...
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

[j.schwartz]

Bill
In your experience a 42 single ring up front and an 11-32, say 10-speed, 
cassette in the back is appropriate for a more roadish bike with moderate 
to sometimes intense hills?
I will be building up a similar bike and have some Sram Apex 10-speed 
drivetrain bits including cassette, derailleur and brifters, but no 
crankset yet.






On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
> than a 42x11.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>
>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
>> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
>> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
>> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
>> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
>> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
>> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
>> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>> getting something new...
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[j.schwartz]

Thanks Justin
totally agree 
This group needs to stay in it's lane or it's really not worth being a part 
of.





On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 8:16:07 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> As someone who has two loved ones on the front lines and another at high 
> risk all of this anti-science dismissal confirms my choice to step away 
> from this group as a contributing member. 
>
> It’s fucking gross, dangerous and will potentially have seriously damaging 
> impacts on people. 
>
> Grow up. 
>
> -Justin

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[RBW] Re: WTB: IRD Quill Shifter Mount

[j.schwartz]

Hey Marty
I PM'd you ...not sure it went through successfully though
thanks
JS

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 6:14:28 PM UTC-4, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
> I think I do. Do you need the whole thing or just the hinged section? PM 
> me your address and I'll start digging. 
>
> Marty
>
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 6:06:15 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> Hi 
>> Sadly I cracked my IRD quill mount and I'd like to find a new one.
>>
>> [image: IMG_3564.JPG]
>>
>> Curious if anyone has one on this list who'd like to move it along
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: TIRES - 29x2.1 - Vittoria Mezcal, 120 TPI - Barely used

[j.schwartz]

New York’s Hudson Valley 

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[RBW] FS: TIRES - 29x2.1 - Vittoria Mezcal, 120 TPI - Barely used

[j.schwartz]

Bump $50 incl shipping

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[RBW] Re: Help me buy a Riv

[j.schwartz]

sounds like you're describing a Hilsen or a Hillborne 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires: Teravail Cumberland 29x2.6 - Light & Supple - Brand New

[j.schwartz]

Thanks , good idea

FYI, the 2.6 Teravail's have been traded for some 2.35  Maxxis Ikon's
think that will be the sweet spot




On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 11:16:57 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>
> Typically,  there's some adjustability to the kickstand. Try loosening the 
> main bolt & fudging it between hitting the tire or hitting the crank.

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[RBW] FS: Tires: Teravail Cumberland 29x2.6 - Light & Supple - Brand New

[j.schwartz]

Perfect new shoes for your upcoming Wolbis.
I bought these brand new last week in the hopes of maxing out my new Clem 
L...and they are just a bit too big.
I'd heard of other users successfully running 29x2.6 tires on their new 
Clems, but the clearance is too tight for me.
These are brand new , mounted once tonight.  Not ridden at all.
Selling for $35 ea ...but as a pair, so $70. shipping included 
I can post real pics tomorrow of the tires mounted 
thank you

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[j.schwartz]

So far looks pretty great..
I think Oranges are tricky to get right and I don't think Rivendell always 
nails with their oranges. ...
I do also think the Butterscotch color from the Original Apps should be an 
always color for that bike..like Hunqapillar Green or Atlantis Submarine 
Green

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 4:34:16 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yep, that's what I'm seeing. That color looks even better in person, 
> although I must express the sacrilege that I like it better on the Susie 
> without the creamy headtube. I know!

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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters on non-Riv mounts

[j.schwartz]

Bummed to hear the Silver 2 shifters don't mount perfectly on the Paul 
thumbies...even with the adapter.
That was my plan ..to use the Paul mounts in 31.8mm size and the silver 2 
shifter.
Does anyone know if there's another shifter mount with a 31.8mm clamp size?





On Thursday, January 23, 2020 at 6:55:09 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> Grant points out in his latest blog:
>
> "They fasten together fine, the angle of the exit-housing is right on, but 
> the cable groove in the lever sits obviously outboard of the cable hole in 
> the mount, so there's cable rubbing on aluminum, extra friction, and 
> so--bummer."  NOTE: This is on Microshift mounts.  He makes a good point 
> that a little rubbing of the cable on the aluminum is no big deal.  
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2nd-of-2020
>
> Not sure if it qualifies as a bummer but glad he pointed it out.  I tried 
> mounting on Paul's Thumbie mounts & had the same result.  Since I plan to 
> get Rivendell's mounts when they show up (soon?), I just left well enough 
> alone for now.  I didn't want to build everything up, only to tear it apart 
> again when the real mounts arrive.  
>
> Anyone else tinkered around with the Silvers on any other mounts?
>
> dougP
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New 55cm 700c Atlantis. Same as my 55cm 700c Appaloosa?

[j.schwartz]

Anyway, it will be interesting to see the new Appaloosa's too.
This new 55, 700c Atlantis looks to my untrained eye to be a slightly 
longer Appaloosa with a more than slightly longer wheelbase.




On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 7:14:25 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> 5.4mm of rake?  LOL. 54mm, also known as 5.4cm, is correct
>
> Bill metric Lindsay
> El Cerrito Ca
>

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[RBW] Re: New 55cm 700c Atlantis. Same as my 55cm 700c Appaloosa?

[j.schwartz]

Also, it' looks like Bike Insights already has the updated new Geometry for 
the new Atlanti 
Here's a comparison between the new 55 Atlantis and the latest 55 Appaloosa

https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries[]=5b8578f548f3a30004789b05[]=5e1faf637f17da00170c6e27[]=[]=






On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 11:05:29 AM UTC-5, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> I know these bikes are essentially interchangeable , but I thought the 
> difference was in wheelsize preference...  Now that they are both 700c, I'm 
> just curious is one being moved into a different category than the other?
> The published Geo numbers are slightly different, but are they different 
> enough to be two different bikes?
> I suspect a 2º difference in HT angle is sufficient to affect the handling 
> of a bike, what about 1/2º difference in ST angle?
> Are they both touring bikes?
> Geo below
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-01-19 at 11.02.38 AM.png]
>
>

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[RBW] New 55cm 700c Atlantis. Same as my 55cm 700c Appaloosa?

[j.schwartz]

I know these bikes are essentially interchangeable , but I thought the 
difference was in wheelsize preference...  Now that they are both 700c, I'm 
just curious is one being moved into a different category than the other?
The published Geo numbers are slightly different, but are they different 
enough to be two different bikes?
I suspect a 2º difference in HT angle is sufficient to affect the handling 
of a bike, what about 1/2º difference in ST angle?
Are they both touring bikes?
Geo below

[image: Screen Shot 2020-01-19 at 11.02.38 AM.png]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

[j.schwartz]

@Iambbo APPROVE 

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[RBW] Re: 2020 Goals

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Congratulations to Joe and Doug! 

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[RBW] Re: Riv. Redwood >> paint color code?

[j.schwartz]

Hi Jay
Did you ever find out the color code for the Redwood?


On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 11:25:43 AM UTC-4, Jay P wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am would like to have my Atlantis repainted the same green (or so) as 
> the Redwood.
>
> Does anyone know the color code and style (pearlescent?  flamboyant?)  ?
>
> Thank you -  Jay 
>

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[RBW] Re: compatibility question: double FD on triple

[j.schwartz]

Thank you for this.
I have had luck pushing the limits but in this case, I'll just get a triple 
specific FD.
was tempted by the price on that Claris.


On Sunday, November 17, 2019 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-5, aeroperf wrote:
>
>
> The Claris FD-R2400 that came with the double Suguino XD2 on my Sam did 
> not have enough throw when I took off the bashguard and added a third ring.
> My rings were 46-36-26.  It was not an adjustment thing.  The 2400 was not 
> physically able to move far enough.
> The FD-R2000 lists the same 43.5 chainline as the 2400.  So I would say NO.
>
> I would suggest going to a triple, like a Sora FD-R3030.
>
> The chainline thing is interesting.  Chainrings are typically 5mm apart.  
> The chainline is the middle of the chainring set, measured in mm from the 
> bike centerline.
> For road bikes, Shimano spec, a double crankset has one ring at 41 and one 
> ring at 46.  For triples, one ring is at 40, one at 45, and one at 50.
> So the chainline for a double is at 43.5, and the shifter has to be able 
> to bring the chain in to 41 and out to 46.  For a triple the chainline is 
> at 45 and it has to bring it in to 40 and out to 50.
>
> That's Shimano spec.  Rivs Silver cranks are installed with bottom 
> brackets that move the chainline out to 47, probably because of the 135mm 
> rear (MTB) spacing.
> Now a Shimano road double derailleur would have to be able to move to 
> about 52, plus some for adjustment, to the outside of a triple on a Riv.  
> They're just not designed for that.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New vs. old Homer geometry, ride characteristics

[j.schwartz]

I don't have much to say on ride characteristics bc I've never ridden an 
AHH, but...as far as aesthetic design goes, I have an interesting take.
I purchased my first Riv in late 2008.  It was the first gen SH , the green 
and gold one.  
I think it was their first "expanded" geo bike.  I was really visually 
turned off on upsloping tube but at about half the cost of the AHH (and the 
fact that it had cantis), it made more sense for me to get that one.
Fast forward to over 10 years later and now my bike design eye has totally 
shifted. I find horizontal top tubes unattractive because I know they'd be 
more uncomfortable for my riding style.
I still have that SH and have had other Riv's come and go.  I also have a 
silver 55 Appaloosa which in many ways is an evolved SH and I think both 
bikes with their 6º (or so) up slope look "correct" and beautiful.

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[RBW] compatibility question: double FD on triple

[j.schwartz]

Greetings, 

Curious if the group thinks this on-sale Claris "double" front derailleur 
would work well with a Riv Silver 44/34/24 triple crankset on a Clem L?
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/garage-sales-parts/products/claris-double-front-derailleur

In my experience, cranksets with smaller large chainwheels don't always 
require a "triple" derailleur with such a big cage.
thank you

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Re: [RBW] briar tires

[j.schwartz]

I really like this name for these type of tires. 
I may put Briar Tires on my Hillibike.

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[RBW] Re: Clem L front derailleur

[j.schwartz]

Can someone who knows tell us the FD clamp size is for the new 59cm Clem-L?





On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 9:20:18 AM UTC-5, David Carner wrote:
>
> You did not mention the size of your Clem L and as Joe mentioned the tube 
> size may vary by bike size. My August, 2019 Clem L 52 also requires a 
> 31.8.  I was interested to note that the seat tube is tapered, 31.8 at the 
> bottom, approximately 28.6 at the top. 
> David
>
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:50:55 PM UTC-6, Keith Swanson wrote:
>>
>> I sold my Hillborne frame to switch to a Clem L and discovered that the 
>> front derailleur clamp is too small.  I have a 3x8 set up with a Deore rear 
>> derailleur.  What size clamp is needed for the front derailleur and does 
>> anyone have a suggestion of which I should get?  
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Specialties TA Syrius 50/34, 9 or 10 speed Chainrings for 110bcd - $80

[j.schwartz]

Chainrings are sold
thank you



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Budget Triple Crankset

[j.schwartz]

FYI that Sugino sold

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 1:29:31 PM UTC-4, Jeffrey B wrote:
>
> Here is a genuine Sugino for $60
>
> http://www.718c.com/movesale
>

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[RBW] What size BB spindle comes on new 59cm Clem framesets?

[j.schwartz]

110 or 113?

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[RBW] WTB: Budget Triple Crankset

[j.schwartz]

Looking for a budget, used but useable triple crank for my upcoming Clem-L 
build... which will be a 3 speed with a Paul Melvin. 
Rings need to be a 20t spreadsomething like 44/34/24 would be ideal.
I’m flexible on arm length (170-175)
Thanks 

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Re: [RBW] replacing my old B+M dyno light with what?

[j.schwartz]

Thanks Peter
Given that the price for the Cyo Premium and the newer IQ-XS are 
essentially the same, how does one make the choice of one over the other?
Jason 

Also re: the toplight...I'm not necessarily looking to change it..I just 
need to purchase another rear dyno light for a different bike and since I'm 
moving the old Cyo , I thought I'd move my old Toplight and "upgrade" it as 
well.




On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 2:02:04 PM UTC-4, Peter White wrote:
>
> I was importing that light from Philips years ago. It was a pretty good 
> light at the time, comparable to the original CYO. but it would certainly 
> not be an upgrade from the CYO. I haven't imported the Axendo from 
> Spanninga. One issue with it is the non-standard interface between the 
> light housing and its mount. If the standard mount fits your bike, all well 
> and good. But if for example you have a cantilever brake in front, there's 
> no mount available for the Axendo/Philips without bending one of the Busch 
> & Müller mounts to fit.
>
> Peter White
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 11:49 AM Ian A > 
> wrote:
>
>> The Spanniga Axendo 60 is based on the design of the Phillips Saferide. 
>>
>> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Spanninga-Axendo-60-Xdas-standlight-automatic-DRL-dynohub-bike-headlamp-/283498566248?nav=SEARCH
>>
>> I have two Saferide 60 dynamo lights in service and they are good. The 
>> Spanniga Axendo 60 would be on my list if I needed a replacement. I haven't 
>> used the Axendo personally.
>>
>> IanA
>>
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[RBW] replacing my old B+M dyno light with what?

[j.schwartz]

I have an old Busch & Muller Lumotec Cyo dynolight from about 2012.  It was 
one of the earlier LED headlights with a good beam at the time but it was 
eclipsed by newer models basically every year.  Still, it's been a great 
light for my purposes all these years.  I'm going to replace it on my main 
touring bike and it will still be used but on a different bike.
Curious what others are using and liking,.  I don't need or want to buy the 
latest and greatest...i.e. most expensive dyno light out there.  Just 
looking for an updated high quality light for mixed terrain p.m. riding 
both in town and out.
The same goes for my rear B+M toplight.  
thank you

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

[j.schwartz]

Bonus points for the Schrader valves!


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[RBW] Re: Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[j.schwartz]

Thanks everyone 

Glad to hear I can "slum it" with these old wheels.




On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 4:26:59 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:
>
> We used to run 20mm external width rims and 2.4" tires all the time back 
> when singlespeeding was hip.  Built dozens of bikes with that combo, zero 
> issues.  
> -james / analog cycles 
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:34:57 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> I am waiting for a new 59cm Clem-L to arrive and plan on building it up 
>> as a pretty basic off-road bike.  Most of the parts are things that have 
>> been floating around my bike bins for years.
>> The only new thing I'm planning on using is a Bosco 52cm alu bar I 
>> purchased earlier this year but haven't really used.
>>
>> I just replaced my old touring wheelset that was on the Appa with a new 
>> more modern and appropriate Cliffhanger wheelset 
>>
>> So I have the older wheels which are:  36h Synergy Rims laced to Shimano 
>> dyno (DH-3N72) in front and an XT hub in the back.  I've ridden these 
>> Synergy rims for about 9 years and they show no signs of any issues around 
>> the eyelets that others have reported.
>>
>> I'd like to use what I have but I want to maximize the tires for the 
>> Clem.  I'm planning to use tubes (those rims aren't good candidates for 
>> tubeless anyway)
>> Does anyone have any thoughts to how big I can go?
>>
>> Note these are 700's.
>>
>> I'd really like to mount 29x2.4's but these rims are 23mm wide with a 
>> 19mm interior width.
>>
>> I did mount some non-tubeless Vittoria Mezcals in 29x2.1 size when they 
>> were on the Appaloosa and they really didn't balloon at all.  Maybe they 
>> could've been stretched out a little better by a wider rim, but they fit 
>> and rode pretty well.
>> *Pics attached of that
>>
>> Has anyone successfully run some off roady, tubed, mountain tires on 
>> those rims in about 2.35" and up ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 8-tooth spread on QB/SO track-ends

[j.schwartz]

Thanks Patrick 
I forgot about that.
What sort of gearing numbers did you run on your off road QB?

On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 9:21:39 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> You can get wider gear inch spread with a smaller tooth spread if you use 
> a flip-flop hub or a White Industries DosEno freewheel. Then you run little 
> cog with big chain ring, big cog with little chain ring. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 4:24:57 PM UTC-6, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> Curious if the 8-tooth "max" spread can be pushed by a tooth or two?
>> Is that just a conservative figure or has anyone successfully run a 
>> larger (9 or 10 tooth) chain ring size difference on their Quickbeam or 
>> Simpleone and still had good brake pad alignment on the rear wheel?
>> I'm rebuilding my SO and I have a 41/32 crank which is only 1 tooth 
>> larger than the spec.
>> The freewheel is 20t and the wheels are 700/43.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] 8-tooth spread on QB/SO track-ends

[j.schwartz]

Curious if the 8-tooth "max" spread can be pushed by a tooth or two?
Is that just a conservative figure or has anyone successfully run a larger 
(9 or 10 tooth) chain ring size difference on their Quickbeam or Simpleone 
and still had good brake pad alignment on the rear wheel?
I'm rebuilding my SO and I have a 41/32 crank which is only 1 tooth larger 
than the spec.
The freewheel is 20t and the wheels are 700/43.


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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Sam Frameset

[j.schwartz]

Dave
here's a link to the old geo chart with the older sized SH's on it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4/edit#gid=0

On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 12:34:40 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I received a message from a list member about a 56I forgot there used 
> to be different sizes.
>
> I'm having trouble locating the old geometry charts.  Anyone recall the 
> PBH range on the 56?  
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[j.schwartz]

Good call André.
The book is Beruit Hellfire Society by Rawi Hage.
Quite the read!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/books/review-beirut-hellfire-society-rawi-hage.html



On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 7:19:13 PM UTC-4, André P wrote:
>
> The important question, what book are you running out back?
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 15:57 j.schwartz  > wrote:
>
>> At Shaupeneak Ridge in Ulster County, New York.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

[j.schwartz]

So great 
Anyone successfully running 2.4’s on their Clem?

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[RBW] Offroad Mountain Clem-L’s

[j.schwartz]

Who has their Clem L set up as a true off-roader ?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Crust x Nitto "Shaka" Bar

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Sorry for not posting earlier

these were sold
thanks
Jason 




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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Kite Bar in Black

[j.schwartz]

Greetings
looking to purchase a slightly used Kite bar in Black.
I am wanting to avoid purchasing directly from Japan
Does anyone have one to sell? or know where one can be source stateside?
Thanks
J

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[RBW] Dustin Harbin's Teeth and Face

[j.schwartz]

I was pleasantly surprised to see Grant's re-posting of Dustin Harbin's 
(dharbin) Op-Ed in the Times today as well as his Go Fund Me page
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/aug-20-no-26-lugs-new-bikes-used-bikes
Dusty is an old friend of mine and one of the kindest, most charming, and 
talented people I know.
He a cartoonist and you can find his work here 
https://dharbin.com
He was in a bad bike wreck earlier in the summer which caused his lower jaw 
to break from the rest of his skull and is on the mend following treatment
He posted in the NY Times today about his experience being billed full 
price for his injuries due to lack of insurance and going to a Crowdfunding 
site to make that happen
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/23/opinion/crowdfunding-health-care.html

Rivendell is crediting half of the dollar amounts to donations made to him.
Amazing.
Please consider donating 

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[RBW] Re: Chacos vs. Bedrocks

[j.schwartz]

Can any Bedrock wearers speak to the differences in the models and/or 
footbeds.
is one or the other better suited to biking on flat wide pedals?





On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 7:48:25 PM UTC-4, Robert Hakim wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 12:21:22 AM UTC-6, Jonathan D. wrote:
>>
>> Chacos have a high arches and thick soles.  I tried them and the arch 
>> kills my feet and I can’t wear them without getting leg pains.   The Chacos 
>> are also really heavy. 
>>
>
> You and I are quite opposite! I love the chacos because I have a wicked 
> high arch. They are one of the few "shoes" I've found that help keep my leg 
> pain at bay. I even have a second pair I wear inside while I'm cooking or 
> standing around the house. Unless there is a foot of snow on the ground I 
> usually wear them through the winter, as they seem to fit my arches almost 
> perfectly at a fraction of the price of custom insoles. 
>
> They are fairly heavy, you are right about that... I don't usually take 
> them backpacking, or bike camping for that very reason. 
>
> As far as the bedrocks go... I get bouts of achilles tendinitis just 
> watching my friends wear them! 
>
>
> Dave, I suppose the best thing you could do is buy them from a retailer 
> with a generous return policy like REI, Zappos, or Backcountry.com so you 
> can walk around with them for a few days to see if they suit your needs. 
>
> Robert "Hell or High Arches?" Hakim
> SLC, UT
>
>
>
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[RBW] What's the latest in 700c fenders? Planet Bike Cascadia ALX (50mm), PDW Full Metal (45mm) on a Rambouillet?

[j.schwartz]

I have some used Planet Bike cascades ALX aluminum fenders with he built in 
flaps and stays that Id be happy to sell if you’re  interested .
I used them on my Hillborne for about a year and a half...and they were very 
solid and pretty carefree. I liked them a lot.
They are black like the link you posted .
Best
 Jason 

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[RBW] WTB: 31.8 Paul Thumbies

[j.schwartz]

I know the RBW group is an odd place to look for 31.8 anything , but curious if 
anyone has a set of 31.8mm clamp Paul thumbie mounts for Shimano they’d like to 
move on.
Thanks

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