[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
Big change just to get faster tires! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on his. On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote: My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
In case those aren't long enough, I believe the Shimano BR R-550 cantis have a tad more reach. Good luck! Lee Chae San Francisco, CA On Feb 1, 6:48 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on his. On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote: My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
Oops, I just realized this bike may be going from 559 to 584. Moving along... Lee On Feb 1, 8:12 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: In case those aren't long enough, I believe the Shimano BR R-550 cantis have a tad more reach. Good luck! Lee Chae San Francisco, CA On Feb 1, 6:48 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on his. On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote: My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
I have done it before, http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html You have to use Tektro Oryx which has enough adjustment for it. If you do like this better, you may want to invest on a set of Paul MotoBMX. Some may complain about the higher bottom bracket height, but I am use to higher BB height in general, so I don't really care. In case you are those who believe lower BB height, you may want to read this. http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2007/2/21/bottom-bracket-height.html Ron On Feb 1, 8:25 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I just realized this bike may be going from 559 to 584. Moving along... Lee On Feb 1, 8:12 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: In case those aren't long enough, I believe the Shimano BR R-550 cantis have a tad more reach. Good luck! Lee Chae San Francisco, CA On Feb 1, 6:48 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on his. On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote: My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
OK, thanks. On Feb 1, 11:23 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Hey Ron Jon, could you post some pics of your rigs on the All Rounder Flickr group? http://www.flickr.com/groups/allrounder/ Marty (keepin' my eyes peeled for a 61cm AR) On Feb 1, 12:38 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote: I have done it before, http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html You have to use Tektro Oryx which has enough adjustment for it. If you do like this better, you may want to invest on a set of Paul MotoBMX. Some may complain about the higher bottom bracket height, but I am use to higher BB height in general, so I don't really care. In case you are those who believe lower BB height, you may want to read this. http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2007/2/21/bottom-bracket-he... Ron On Feb 1, 8:25 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, I just realized this bike may be going from 559 to 584. Moving along... Lee On Feb 1, 8:12 am, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: In case those aren't long enough, I believe the Shimano BR R-550 cantis have a tad more reach. Good luck! Lee Chae San Francisco, CA On Feb 1, 6:48 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on his. On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote: My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
Roy, this has been covered in the past on this list or on the 650B list so a search of archives should disclose those cantis that have more adjustability. I have an old, cheap pair of shijmanos (Altus model) that do reach up enough to reach 584 from 559. The real solution is to get some Paul Moto BMX V-brakes. I found some used on ebay for not too much ( but then I used to look constantly for these very items). This year my Atlantis (56 cm with 559 wheels) will be used some of the year with some new 650b wheels I will build. Later in the summer the touring 559 wheels will be back on for a tour down the west coast. On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote: My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and fork clearance looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical adjustment to reach the 650B rim. Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts designed for 26 inch? At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible Thanks, ...Roy BTW My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a ride calls for. On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
Ron: Thanks for the Dave Moulton article about BB height. Grant has many times made the case that a bike with a lower BB has some handling advantage, which I never fully understood, and, since it came from Grant, I never questioned the wisdom. In recent years, however, I have had quite a bit of experience with higher BB bikes, and have come to slightly prefer the higher BB (feels more stable, easier to go no-handed, easier to run over stuff). Of course, I live in Minnesota where the terrain and road layout is generally different than it is in Walnut Creek. Perhaps a daily diet of steep, winding roads would change my tune. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
I did this with my early 80s Specialized Stumpjumper, and I concluded it was a bad idea on that bike. Ultimately, I went back to 26 for the greatly increased variety of suitable tires. I used the Paul Motolite brakes (not worth the $$$ IMO), but it could probably be done with other cantilever brakes. In my experience, V-brakes tend to have more adjustment, generally. You need only a half-inch of upward adjustment, and I'm just guessing Grant designed the bike around having the pads closer to the bottom of the slot for typical cantilevers. My sense is that brakes are not likely to be much of a stumbling block. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
You can do lots of things with brakes. I purchased a bike that Ed Braley originally converted from 700 to 650B, and then for fun, moved the brake pads in the RBW sold Tektro 556s all the way down and ran 559s on it successfully. The ride was fine, but steering was negatively affected by the smaller wheels so I put t back to 650B. From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 6:50:20 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder I did this with my early 80s Specialized Stumpjumper, and I concluded it was a bad idea on that bike. Ultimately, I went back to 26 for the greatly increased variety of suitable tires. I used the Paul Motolite brakes (not worth the $$$ IMO), but it could probably be done with other cantilever brakes. In my experience, V-brakes tend to have more adjustment, generally. You need only a half-inch of upward adjustment, and I'm just guessing Grant designed the bike around having the pads closer to the bottom of the slot for typical cantilevers. My sense is that brakes are not likely to be much of a stumbling block. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
For me, it worth the investment. On Feb 1, 7:31 am, bigflax925 jonflax...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comments and thoughts. I think I'm going to do it. I just wanted to make sure no one had any negative experiences with handling before investing in the experiment. Now to find some wheels! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder
The older A/Rs were all built on 26 wheels, so changing to 650B would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section. The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to trying it. Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26 version over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster. With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch. On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes. That said, if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be to much of a problem. Don't A-Rs all have cantis though? That's your bigger headache. Have fun! On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman jflax...@uaex.edu wrote: Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with SS couplers. I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this before? What were the results? Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
