[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Completed bikes now posted on the Blug!! 

It looks like the 52cm would work for me!!  I did a quick mock-up in 
BikeCad, using some stats from other RBW 650B bikes and some eyeball 
guesses.  It would be a longer haul because I would have to buy a frameset 
AND new wheels but it's something I'll seriously consider.  

I would set it up as a 1x9 with Deore components and Big Apples.  



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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Kevin Mulcahy]

Is the geometry posted anywhere yet?  This look's like it would be a great 
kid-hauler. 

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Cecily Walker]

Orange...clementine*drools*  *babbles incoherently*


On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 4:51:59 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm sure most of you check every day, but for those who missed it, there 
> are a few ClemSamples back from paint displayed on the BLUG.  Plan on 
> visiting Riv HQ next week and take a test ride!
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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

['velo59' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Why not just run the cable to the noodle from underneath?  Point the noodle 
down rather than up.  Ladies frames with caliper brakes on the seat stay 
bridge used this routing.

Downside is that moisture collects in the inverted housing.  With stainless 
housing and cable, this is less of an issue.  In the past, this would 
result in a rusted cable and an inoperative brake.

Jason Cloutier
Pawtucket, RI

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[lungimsam]

 
My wife has a Raleigh comfort bike with the same style of top tube that 
curves.
The brake cable and housing runs under the TT, like the Clementine's stops 
are positioned, and then, from the junction of the TT and ST, it curves up 
the ST and terminates at the V brake noodle.
You can see it here. But you have to click on the color link for "Purple" 
to see that frame version: 
http://archive.raleighusa.com/archive/2012-hybrid/detour-2-5-12/ 


I was surprised when I saw the Clem's TT that way. It makes the bike look 
like many of the modern ladies' hybrid/comfort bikes that way.

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[lungimsam]

My wife has a Raleigh comfort bike with the same style of top tube that 
curves.
The brake cable and housing runs under the TT, like the Clementine's stops 
are positioned, and then, from the junction of the TT and ST, it curves up 
the ST and terminates at the V brake noodle.
You can see it here: 
http://archive.raleighusa.com/archive/2012-hybrid/detour-2-5-12/

I was surprised when I saw the Clem's TT that way. It makes the bike look 
like many of the modern ladies' hybrid/comfort bikes that way.

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RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I have a Wilbury – no problem there, the rear brake is mounted on the midstay 
bridge, so the cable run is straight to the brake straddle cable.  (For 
centerpulls; for sidepulls I think you can just install the cable upside down, 
no straddle required.)  On the Clemmie-girl, the canti posts are up near the 
seat stay bridge, but the cable runs along the upper downtube, which meets the 
seat tube very low, well below the seat stay bridge – hence the need to figure 
out the cable run without a kink-inducing sharp turn downward.  Something like 
that.

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dougP
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:19 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

Cyclotourist has a Glorious in the family.  Maybe he'll comment on what kind of 
brakes & how they're rigged.  I occasionally see a Glorious around town and 
noticed it had Dura-Ace center pulls (how old are those??) but never noticed 
the actuation.

dougP

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 1:59:37 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
Seatpost binder bolt mounted pulleys are the usual solution, both on older 
step-throughs for centerpull  and step-through MTBs with cantis from the '80s. 
I have a few stashed away for whatever projects might call for one.
David
Chicago

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 3:48:49 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
That's funny, I just called Walnut Creek to get the answer to that very 
question, relative to my pre-ordered blue 52cm.  (Also funny because we're all 
sitting here worrying about build issues for a frame we're not even going to 
have for another 7 months at the earliest!)  I got Miesha, then Will, who said 
it would probably require some sort of pulley arrangement, but that V-brakes 
were really better for the Clementine for this reason, and then (after a brief 
Will-Mark consultation) suggested I email Mark because he might have an 
alternative approach.  Which I did, just now.  Will report back on whatever I 
learn.

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[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Harrop
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:42 PM
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

Nice! I can't wait for mine. Did I say mine? I meant my wife's...

One thing I haven't got my thick head around yet is the routing for the rear 
brake cable. We'll see soon enough when some build pics go up I guess, but I'm 
wondering what the trick is to get the cable from under the 'mixte stay' to a 
cable stop for a rear canti brake?

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[James Warren]

Here's a good reason for more water bottle holders on a good "town" bike: If you're shopping, it's sometimes nice to have a bottle cage for a newly purchased bottle of something you got at the store. If the bottle's the right size, the cages can hold "non-athletic" drink containers. Seems fitting for a town bike. Better for a town bike that will be ready for "dirt sport" action like the Clem.
-Original Message- From: Tim Gavin Sent: Mar 13, 2015 8:34 AM To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG 

They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the seat tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on the BLUG.The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.  




On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer <daban...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.DavidChicago
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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[dougP]

Cyclotourist has a Glorious in the family.  Maybe he'll comment on what 
kind of brakes & how they're rigged.  I occasionally see a Glorious around 
town and noticed it had Dura-Ace center pulls (how old are those??) but 
never noticed the actuation.  

dougP

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 1:59:37 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Seatpost binder bolt mounted pulleys are the usual solution, both on older 
> step-throughs for centerpull  and step-through MTBs with cantis from the 
> '80s. I have a few stashed away for whatever projects might call for one.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 3:48:49 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>
>> That's funny, I just called Walnut Creek to get the answer to that very 
>> question, relative to my pre-ordered blue 52cm.  (Also funny because we're 
>> all sitting here worrying about build issues for a frame we're not even 
>> going to have for another 7 months at the earliest!)  I got Miesha, then 
>> Will, who said it would probably require some sort of pulley arrangement, 
>> but that V-brakes were really better for the Clementine for this reason, 
>> and then (after a brief Will-Mark consultation) suggested I email Mark 
>> because he might have an alternative approach.  Which I did, just now. 
>>  Will report back on whatever I learn. 
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Tom Harrop 
>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:42 PM 
>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG 
>>
>> Nice! I can't wait for mine. Did I say mine? I meant my wife's... 
>>
>> One thing I haven't got my thick head around yet is the routing for the 
>> rear brake cable. We'll see soon enough when some build pics go up I guess, 
>> but I'm wondering what the trick is to get the cable from under the 'mixte 
>> stay' to a cable stop for a rear canti brake? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[David Banzer]

Seatpost binder bolt mounted pulleys are the usual solution, both on older 
step-throughs for centerpull  and step-through MTBs with cantis from the 
'80s. I have a few stashed away for whatever projects might call for one.
David
Chicago

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 3:48:49 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> That's funny, I just called Walnut Creek to get the answer to that very 
> question, relative to my pre-ordered blue 52cm.  (Also funny because we're 
> all sitting here worrying about build issues for a frame we're not even 
> going to have for another 7 months at the earliest!)  I got Miesha, then 
> Will, who said it would probably require some sort of pulley arrangement, 
> but that V-brakes were really better for the Clementine for this reason, 
> and then (after a brief Will-Mark consultation) suggested I email Mark 
> because he might have an alternative approach.  Which I did, just now. 
>  Will report back on whatever I learn. 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tom Harrop 
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:42 PM 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG 
>
> Nice! I can't wait for mine. Did I say mine? I meant my wife's... 
>
> One thing I haven't got my thick head around yet is the routing for the 
> rear brake cable. We'll see soon enough when some build pics go up I guess, 
> but I'm wondering what the trick is to get the cable from under the 'mixte 
> stay' to a cable stop for a rear canti brake? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Tom Harrop]

Now now, what we are doing is "considering", not worrying!

I recently had a canti epiphany so I would prefer them to Vs for the added 
fender clearance... but on the other hand if there are no nice 60 mm slicks 
in 584 I guess we'll go with something smaller anyway, so it's a non issue.

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RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

That's funny, I just called Walnut Creek to get the answer to that very 
question, relative to my pre-ordered blue 52cm.  (Also funny because we're all 
sitting here worrying about build issues for a frame we're not even going to 
have for another 7 months at the earliest!)  I got Miesha, then Will, who said 
it would probably require some sort of pulley arrangement, but that V-brakes 
were really better for the Clementine for this reason, and then (after a brief 
Will-Mark consultation) suggested I email Mark because he might have an 
alternative approach.  Which I did, just now.  Will report back on whatever I 
learn.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

Nice! I can't wait for mine. Did I say mine? I meant my wife's...

One thing I haven't got my thick head around yet is the routing for the rear 
brake cable. We'll see soon enough when some build pics go up I guess, but I'm 
wondering what the trick is to get the cable from under the 'mixte stay' to a 
cable stop for a rear canti brake?

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RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Tom Harrop]

Nice! I can't wait for mine. Did I say mine? I meant my wife's...

One thing I haven't got my thick head around yet is the routing for the rear 
brake cable. We'll see soon enough when some build pics go up I guess, but I'm 
wondering what the trick is to get the cable from under the 'mixte stay' to a 
cable stop for a rear canti brake?

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[lungimsam]

They look great!

But I see they are built with heavy duty tubing. Why couldn't they make 
them with lighter tubing for less weight to get up them hills?

I would like to get a Riv one day for my wife to ride, if I can convince 
her. But I don't want to put anymore weight against her feet than 
necessary. She doesn't like hills and just likes her gentle rides to and 
from work.

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RE: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

But once you get ‘em spinning…WHEE!

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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 3:11 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

Thanks, that's the plumpness!  but, holy camoly, you're right, that's a whole 
lotta grams to spin.

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:42:48 AM UTC-5, 
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Jay, these are the size you're looking for, but not sure about all that mass 
you would be spinning around... 1125g is two tires worth of rubber!
http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/super-moto-x
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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

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Thanks, that's the plumpness!  but, holy camoly, you're right, that's a 
whole lotta grams to spin.   

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:42:48 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Jay, these are the size you're looking for, but not sure about all that 
> mass you would be spinning around... 1125g is two tires worth of rubber!
> http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/super-moto-x
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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[drew beckmeyer]

on the 46cm protovelo we have, there is absolutely no room for a water 
bottle on the back of the seat tube with or without a fender.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Deacon Patrick]

I just talked with Mark at Riv. and he said he's pretty sure there will be 
a second set of bottle mounts on the upper part of the "top" tube, high 
enough to no interfere with step through. Putting the bosses on the back of 
the seat tube could limit fender clearance in some sizes, so they nixed 
that idea.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Deacon Patrick]

Keith, I'd rather my wife and daughters have the option of a second bottle 
cage and choose not to use it. As for contaminants, all kind soft solutions 
exist, including putting a cloth cover with elastic over the top of the 
bottle. I just wipe away the dirt and drink away. Of course most people 
think me insane anyway, so that's just more evidence. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 12:47:53 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote:
>
> I don't know about the water-bottle-behind-the-seat-tube idea.  I'm 
> not particularly worried about this under normal circumstances (I know many 
> people who will only use camelbacks when mountain biking, because of 
> concerns about trail dirt and animal dung), but it seems like this is just 
> asking for trouble.   Unless you have *really good* fenders (which might 
> make it too tight and not an option anyway) then there's a pretty high 
> likelihood of splashing contaminants from the road or trail right onto the 
> valve that you drink out of.  Ick.
>
> An everything cage for "stuff" could be pretty neat though.   Ideally, 
> they'd add a third boss there, but that's a lot to ask considering how many 
> braze-ons these appear to have already.  These are an AMAZING value, in 
> that respect!!!  Might only  work on the 59, with skinny tires and no 
> fenders, too.  
>
> I think a pair of pump pegs on the back of the seat tube would be the 
> ultimate winner, personally.
>
> All-in-all, these are even more beautiful than I had expected.   Just, 
> WOW!   I'm quite happy with my sight-unseen selection of dark blue, too!
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 10:26:29 AM UTC-6, Jay B wrote:
>
>> +3 on all that useful space behind the seat tube!  a great place for a 
>> water bottle or a Salsa Anything cage, and it frees up the main triangle 
>> for a capacious frame bag.  
>>
>> and speaking of the massive tire clearances, are there any "great for 
>> nothing, good for everything" 650b x 60mm tires out there?  perhaps 
>> something like the available 650b x 50 Big Ben, but fatter?  
>>
>> i really like what RBW is doing here,
>> Jay B.  
>>
>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:08:12 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
>>> I was thinking the same about a second cage behind the seat tube. Maybe 
>>> a nice place for a tool roll or even a paleo sandwich. There's a Porcelain 
>>> Rocket/Rick Hunter long-wheelbase fat bike that has a custom behind 
>>> seat-tube bag.
>>>
>>> http://www.porcelainrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sandsledbefore2.jpg
>>>
>>> The colors are great, and white "RBW" on the headtube reinforcements is 
>>> a nice touch. 
>>>
>>> I'm digging the curved seat stays, too. A graceful curve to match the 
>>> fork. (Riv forks have such nice curves.)
>>>
>>> Enjoy the bikes!
>>> shoji
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the 
 seat tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier 
 on 
 the BLUG.

 The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.  

 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  
 wrote:

> Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
> David
> Chicago
>



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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[iamkeith]

I don't know about the water-bottle-behind-the-seat-tube idea.  I'm 
not particularly worried about this under normal circumstances (I know many 
people who will only use camelbacks when mountain biking, because of 
concerns about trail dirt and animal dung), but it seems like this is just 
asking for trouble.   Unless you have *really good* fenders (which might 
make it too tight and not an option anyway) then there's a pretty high 
likelihood of splashing contaminants from the road or trail right onto the 
valve that you drink out of.  Ick.

An everything cage for "stuff" could be pretty neat though.   Ideally, 
they'd add a third boss there, but that's a lot to ask considering how many 
braze-ons these appear to have already.  These are an AMAZING value, in 
that respect!!!  Might only  work on the 59, with skinny tires and no 
fenders, too.  

I think a pair of pump pegs on the back of the seat tube would be the 
ultimate winner, personally.

All-in-all, these are even more beautiful than I had expected.   Just, 
WOW!   I'm quite happy with my sight-unseen selection of dark blue, too!

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 10:26:29 AM UTC-6, Jay B wrote:

> +3 on all that useful space behind the seat tube!  a great place for a 
> water bottle or a Salsa Anything cage, and it frees up the main triangle 
> for a capacious frame bag.  
>
> and speaking of the massive tire clearances, are there any "great for 
> nothing, good for everything" 650b x 60mm tires out there?  perhaps 
> something like the available 650b x 50 Big Ben, but fatter?  
>
> i really like what RBW is doing here,
> Jay B.  
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:08:12 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking the same about a second cage behind the seat tube. Maybe a 
>> nice place for a tool roll or even a paleo sandwich. There's a Porcelain 
>> Rocket/Rick Hunter long-wheelbase fat bike that has a custom behind 
>> seat-tube bag.
>>
>> http://www.porcelainrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sandsledbefore2.jpg
>>
>> The colors are great, and white "RBW" on the headtube reinforcements is a 
>> nice touch. 
>>
>> I'm digging the curved seat stays, too. A graceful curve to match the 
>> fork. (Riv forks have such nice curves.)
>>
>> Enjoy the bikes!
>> shoji
>>
>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the 
>>> seat tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on 
>>> the BLUG.
>>>
>>> The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>>
 Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
 David
 Chicago

>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Jay, these are the size you're looking for, but not sure about all that 
mass you would be spinning around... 1125g is two tires worth of rubber!
http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/super-moto-x



On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:26:29 AM UTC-7, Jay B wrote:
>
> +3 on all that useful space behind the seat tube!  a great place for a 
> water bottle or a Salsa Anything cage, and it frees up the main triangle 
> for a capacious frame bag.  
>
> and speaking of the massive tire clearances, are there any "great for 
> nothing, good for everything" 650b x 60mm tires out there?  perhaps 
> something like the available 650b x 50 Big Ben, but fatter?  
>
> i really like what RBW is doing here,
> Jay B.  
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:08:12 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking the same about a second cage behind the seat tube. Maybe a 
>> nice place for a tool roll or even a paleo sandwich. There's a Porcelain 
>> Rocket/Rick Hunter long-wheelbase fat bike that has a custom behind 
>> seat-tube bag.
>>
>> http://www.porcelainrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sandsledbefore2.jpg
>>
>> The colors are great, and white "RBW" on the headtube reinforcements is a 
>> nice touch. 
>>
>> I'm digging the curved seat stays, too. A graceful curve to match the 
>> fork. (Riv forks have such nice curves.)
>>
>> Enjoy the bikes!
>> shoji
>>
>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the 
>>> seat tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on 
>>> the BLUG.
>>>
>>> The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.  
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>>
 Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
 David
 Chicago

>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Anne Paulson]

There's room for an Anything Cage behind the seat tube? Wow. I knew
the chainstays were long, but I didn't realize they were THAT long. I
am so upset about this bike-- upset that I can't buy one right now for
my son. This is the bike he needs.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:26 AM, 'Jay B' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> +3 on all that useful space behind the seat tube!  a great place for a water
> bottle or a Salsa Anything cage, and it frees up the main triangle for a
> capacious frame bag.
>
> and speaking of the massive tire clearances, are there any "great for
> nothing, good for everything" 650b x 60mm tires out there?  perhaps
> something like the available 650b x 50 Big Ben, but fatter?
>
> i really like what RBW is doing here,
> Jay B.
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:08:12 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> I was thinking the same about a second cage behind the seat tube. Maybe a
>> nice place for a tool roll or even a paleo sandwich. There's a Porcelain
>> Rocket/Rick Hunter long-wheelbase fat bike that has a custom behind
>> seat-tube bag.
>>
>> http://www.porcelainrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sandsledbefore2.jpg
>>
>> The colors are great, and white "RBW" on the headtube reinforcements is a
>> nice touch.
>>
>> I'm digging the curved seat stays, too. A graceful curve to match the
>> fork. (Riv forks have such nice curves.)
>>
>> Enjoy the bikes!
>> shoji
>>
>> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the
>>> seat tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on
>>> the BLUG.
>>>
>>> The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

 Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
 David
 Chicago
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

['Jay B' via RBW Owners Bunch]

+3 on all that useful space behind the seat tube!  a great place for a 
water bottle or a Salsa Anything cage, and it frees up the main triangle 
for a capacious frame bag.  

and speaking of the massive tire clearances, are there any "great for 
nothing, good for everything" 650b x 60mm tires out there?  perhaps 
something like the available 650b x 50 Big Ben, but fatter?  

i really like what RBW is doing here,
Jay B.  

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:08:12 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> I was thinking the same about a second cage behind the seat tube. Maybe a 
> nice place for a tool roll or even a paleo sandwich. There's a Porcelain 
> Rocket/Rick Hunter long-wheelbase fat bike that has a custom behind 
> seat-tube bag.
>
> http://www.porcelainrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sandsledbefore2.jpg
>
> The colors are great, and white "RBW" on the headtube reinforcements is a 
> nice touch. 
>
> I'm digging the curved seat stays, too. A graceful curve to match the 
> fork. (Riv forks have such nice curves.)
>
> Enjoy the bikes!
> shoji
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the 
>> seat tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on 
>> the BLUG.
>>
>> The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.  
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>>> Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Shoji Takahashi]

I was thinking the same about a second cage behind the seat tube. Maybe a 
nice place for a tool roll or even a paleo sandwich. There's a Porcelain 
Rocket/Rick Hunter long-wheelbase fat bike that has a custom behind 
seat-tube bag.
http://www.porcelainrocket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/sandsledbefore2.jpg

The colors are great, and white "RBW" on the headtube reinforcements is a 
nice touch. 

I'm digging the curved seat stays, too. A graceful curve to match the fork. 
(Riv forks have such nice curves.)

Enjoy the bikes!
shoji

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the seat 
> tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on the 
> BLUG.
>
> The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.  
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Tim Gavin]

They should add a second set of bottle cage bosses on the back of the seat
tube.  They showed a strap-on twofish cage in that position earlier on the
BLUG.

The twofish cage actually works ok, from my experience, but it's ugly.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:

> Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Montclair BobbyB]

*Oh my darlin, OH my darlin*...  I ordered a 59' Clementine in orange... oh 
mercy she is beautiful... Got a slow and meticulous build plan racing 
through my head...  Oh the accessories that will be required... wow.

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 7:51:59 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm sure most of you check every day, but for those who missed it, there 
> are a few ClemSamples back from paint displayed on the BLUG.  Plan on 
> visiting Riv HQ next week and take a test ride!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Joe Bernard]

WOW. I didn't expect the cream-maybe-white lug fills on these lower-priced 
frames. I prefer same color headtubes with just the lug windows 
contrasting, so this really hits the spot. And the filled RBWs! Hoo boy..in 
spite of the fact I have all the wheels and parts ready for a build, I 
still hadn't planned on spending another $700 on bike stuff this soon. I 
predict I will change my mind! I like the blue..

Joe "just buy and ride" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 4:51:59 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I'm sure most of you check every day, but for those who missed it, there 
> are a few ClemSamples back from paint displayed on the BLUG.  Plan on 
> visiting Riv HQ next week and take a test ride!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[Bill Lindsay]

It's a regular head tube with investment cast rings brazed on either end. I use 
one of those rings as a napkin ring. 

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

['velo59' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Interesting head tube.  Looks like it might be investment cast.  Anybody 
know how they are made?

Jason Cloutier
Pawtucket, RI

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

[David Banzer]

Nice solution to bottle cage bosses on the Clementine.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 6:51:59 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm sure most of you check every day, but for those who missed it, there 
> are a few ClemSamples back from paint displayed on the BLUG.  Plan on 
> visiting Riv HQ next week and take a test ride!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I like the dark green.  A lot. Reminds me of the old Bombadils.  

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 6:51:59 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I'm sure most of you check every day, but for those who missed it, there 
> are a few ClemSamples back from paint displayed on the BLUG.  Plan on 
> visiting Riv HQ next week and take a test ride!
>
>
>

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