[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
I had that granularity in the Shimano 8-speed bar ends on my Rambouillet in friction mode. It was clear enough of a position defining-feeling, even though there were many more of them than gears, that I occasionally stopped short of a good clean shift by their distraction. They got benched in lieu of some black Suntour 7-speed AccuShift levers in friction mode. Smooth. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, March 10, 2014 7:52:52 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: I haven't tried the silvers I have with a 9sp cassette, but I do think the granularity of control they yield is a bit coarser than what I get from some old suntour acushift 7/8sp levers. I was using those older levers with 9sp successfully for a while until I got a new Suntour XCD to sub out my old xc-pro rd, and went back to indexing with shimano levers. On Monday, March 10, 2014 11:58:41 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: Jim, Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes? My bike has a 9-speed cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and sometimes I get frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load. On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
Jim, Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes? My bike has a 9-speed cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and sometimes I get frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load. On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
For the record: Others will have their own opinions, but I shift a home brew 9 speed cassette -non-aligned ramps- with Silver bar end shifters and I don't have a problem. Perhaps I am more deft than others, or perhaps I have lower standards. Patrick Moore iPhone On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clampe9...@yahoo.com wrote: Jim, Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes? My bike has a 9-speed cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and sometimes I get frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load. On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
I friction shifted 9 speeds with Silver bar-ends, with no problem. (11-32
cassette, Microshift rear der). I don't pay attention to the ratchet
clicks, just move the shifter gently until the desired cog is engaged.
I've since retro-fitted to 7 speeds, but not because of shift quality. I
went back to my Riv's original ('97) Phil FW hubs and rebuilt them with
Synergy 650b rims.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
A while back (ten-ish years maybe?) the Rivendell Custom order form had an option that said something along the lines of like an Atlantis but fancier. I got the impression that a fancy Atlantis- inspired Custom was pretty common from the early literature and site. I am sure the people at Riv can point you in the right direction and tell you what has been done in the past. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
Leslie, The Bombadil was a frame and fork listed on Riv's site as a FF or full build, now it's a custom frame set with IIRC stouter tube's. It's not cheap though but sounds like what you'd be looking for. I'd give Riv a call. I think Grant at this time is over seas so he might not be chiming in on this one. But Keven, Will, Dave and all the others at Riv will gladly help you out ~Hugh On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:53:16 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Bombadil? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
I love my bombadil but I don't see the point of buying one new nowadays if it's the same price as a custom. I know they are built to order but for that price I would want specific things that my bombadil doest have. Don't flame me here but if I had a custom like the bombadil it would be a true 58 with a level TT but still with 650b, and clearance for 60s. Just one man's small opinion. On Mar 10, 2014 7:25 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Leslie, The Bombadil was a frame and fork listed on Riv's site as a FF or full build, now it's a custom frame set with IIRC stouter tube's. It's not cheap though but sounds like what you'd be looking for. I'd give Riv a call. I think Grant at this time is over seas so he might not be chiming in on this one. But Keven, Will, Dave and all the others at Riv will gladly help you out ~Hugh On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:53:16 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Bombadil? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
Peter, I'd figure for the price of a custom, the Bombadil would be a starting point. Since I've never had a custom built I'm speculating but it seems they would help design one with your specific desires in mind or they might discuss why an idea may or may not be feasible. Just my 2 cents. ~Hugh ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I love my bombadil but I don't see the point of buying one new nowadays if it's the same price as a custom. I know they are built to order but for that price I would want specific things that my bombadil doest have. Don't flame me here but if I had a custom like the bombadil it would be a true 58 with a level TT but still with 650b, and clearance for 60s. Just one man's small opinion. On Mar 10, 2014 7:25 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Leslie, The Bombadil was a frame and fork listed on Riv's site as a FF or full build, now it's a custom frame set with IIRC stouter tube's. It's not cheap though but sounds like what you'd be looking for. I'd give Riv a call. I think Grant at this time is over seas so he might not be chiming in on this one. But Keven, Will, Dave and all the others at Riv will gladly help you out ~Hugh On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:53:16 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote: Bombadil? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/6nHwZ1a0TRs/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
I haven't tried the silvers I have with a 9sp cassette, but I do think the granularity of control they yield is a bit coarser than what I get from some old suntour acushift 7/8sp levers. I was using those older levers with 9sp successfully for a while until I got a new Suntour XCD to sub out my old xc-pro rd, and went back to indexing with shimano levers. On Monday, March 10, 2014 11:58:41 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: Jim, Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes? My bike has a 9-speed cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and sometimes I get frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load. On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
I think it's B Patrick... On Monday, March 10, 2014, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: For the record: Others will have their own opinions, but I shift a home brew 9 speed cassette -non-aligned ramps- with Silver bar end shifters and I don't have a problem. Perhaps I am more deft than others, or perhaps I have lower standards. Patrick Moore iPhone On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Chris Lampe 2 clampe9...@yahoo.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','clampe9...@yahoo.com'); wrote: Jim, Is this specific to Silver shifters or is it something that is relatively common with a mix of friction and 9-speed cassettes? My bike has a 9-speed cassette and those cheap thumb shifters that RBW sells and sometimes I get frequent ghost shifts, even under a very easy pedaling load. On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: custom Atlantis color
YES YES!! That thar's a funmobile! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
Hi Dan, Yea I looked at the Troll and like it but it has 26 wheels and I want to use my current parts to reduce costs plus the Atlantis and the Trucker are similar in geometry so my thinking is it might be easier to get the same fit. I'm starting to think of the one bike does it all approach since I plan to downsize considerably lifestyle wise. Basically for my general kind of riding a heavy built 'rando' bike that can go off road, sometimes carry a load and still be ridden briskly unloaded. I keep coming back to drop bars for comfort and the mirror I like to use so that influences my choice also. I have a generator set up for lighting and don't want to discard that either. I'll probably give Riv a call unless Grant wants to chime in... On Apr 1, 11:30 am, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: Other than the traditional looks the surly troll seems close to what you are looking for. I have one and riding it never fails to put a smile on my face. Dan Abelson On Apr 1, 2012 12:27 PM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Anybody ever have an Atlantis built with heavier tubing? What I am talking about is a heavier down tube etc.to increase the load carrying ability while still maintaining the traditional look and fit of the Atlantis design in my particular sizing. Been looking at a Hunk but I am thinking I am right in between sizes with the 54cm giving me too much seat post and the 58cm not quite enough clearance for bigger tires later (due to the up sloping top tube). I currently ride a 58 cm Surly and it fits me. My parts could easily interchange (with a 700c Atlantis). I get some ghost shifting with the Surly when I load it up hence my thought toward a stiffer frame. I'm heavier (257 now) and want a frame that I can use for occasional camping but mostly road riding. I'm not much of an off roader but I can see doing more of it in the future when I start to lose my nerve for riding on the road. I'm 53 and this will probably be my last frame purchase so I've been thinking about it from several perspectives.versatility, longevity, load carrying, traditional looks, ability to stand over for big tires and off road riding in the future etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
Thanks Jim you are probably correct. I'll try the cleaning and greasing again since its covered in some winter road grit now. I have newer cables, chain and rear cassette and always run with fenders but after thinking about it the Silver shifters on the down tube sometimes slip. I still want a nicer lugged frame someday and the idea of a somewhat beefier Atlantis appeals... On Apr 1, 12:04 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, the Surly LHT is considerably stiffer than the Atlantis (the Atlantis being closer to the Cross-check than LHT). Ghost shifting on a LHT seems unlikely to be caused by frame flex, even with a heavy load. I'd suspect some misadjustment, loose shifter, or worn or mismatched parts. If it is indeed a case of frame flex, usually a smear of grease where the cables go under the BB will fix it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/79l_tAN82WAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Custom Atlantis?
Agree with both Jim and Leslie on this. If you are looking for a Rivendell, then maybe a Bombadil would be closer to your needs. Have also owned both an Atlantis and (currently) a LHT and the latter is a stiffer bike. Not huge, but noticeable. And weighed more than you, Charlie, when I had the Atlantis. Also agree with Jim on the shifting matter. Couldn't get Silver and 9 speed to coexist on my bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:03:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd tend to look at the silver shifters as the culprit, especially if you're running a 9sp cassette. There's enough slop between clicks in the ratchet system in those shifters that even if the shifter is tight enough, derailleur/chain placement will be imprecise in some gears. In that case, a tiny amount of frame-flex-induced cable pull may tip it into an adjacent gear. This would be less likely with 7/8sp cassettes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cPXZesb7hWQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
