[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-22 Thread RoadieRyan
As others have said a work stand for sure worth every penny.

with two Y wrenches; hex (4 5 6mm) and socket (8 9 10) I can just about 
take apart an entire bike. My favorite tools.

I am usually a less is more kind of guy, but when it comes to bearing 
grease more is better.  I have found the factory built wheels I sometimes 
use on old 10 speed rebuilds are miserly with the grease, sigh, do not 
skimp on bearing grease.

The most important thing I have ever learned- when you get frustrated with 
your buildwalk away..cool down...come back later.  Never ceases to 
amaze how much clearer a calm head sees.  


Ryan in West Seattle





On Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:41:23 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Put something meaningful on your bike. To make it your own.
 Leafs. Twine. Ring. whatever 

 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, 
 quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when 
 building up a new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-22 Thread LF


 Favorite two tricks ...

1) from Heavy Metal Bikes, San Francisco ... favorite treatment for cable 
ends is to heat them with a small butane torch (or cigarette lighter) and 
melt on a mardi gras bead ... prevents fraying, looks great!
2) from Jobst Brandt, wreckBike ... cut pieces of reflective tape so they 
fit between the spokes, then place 5 or 6 in a row ... then do the same 
with the rim of the other wheel ... safety, randoneer style.

L

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-21 Thread blakcloud
As others have said:

A bike repair stand. I bought a Cinelli almost thirty years ago and it was 
the best $75.00 I ever spent. 
Separate tool box. I have one of those mechanic ones with multiple sections 
and wheels. This is just for bike tools and parts. 
Tool trolley. It is just a light weight but when I am taking apart my bike 
I can put the components on it. 
Professional apron, I use one thanks to Lynne for reminding me how useful 
it is. 
Specific bicycle tools. My latest purchase, Park head set press, remover 
and crown race tool. Won't use it often but I won't to leave my bike at the 
shop and wait for it to be done either. 
Moving parts get grease, static parts get anti-seize. 

Thanks for the other tips, I am glad to learn a few new tricks. 

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-21 Thread Michael
 
1. Rear car trunk rack as repair stand (learned from Jim Langley site).
 

 2. Hand clamp as third hand for holding pads against rims while attaching 
 brake cables.

3. Leave brake cable adjuster barrel half way in/out so you can adjust 
either way depending on if the newly attached cable stretches at all or 
not at all after removing hand clamp (learned from LBS mechanic).
4. Linesman's pliers work great for cutting fender stays if no bolt cutters 
or dremels around.
5. Screw, nut, and flat piece of metal set up for gently opening a used 
NITTO stem clamp jaw to fit Noodle bar collar through without scratching it 
(read online on a fourm).
6. Keep valve stem nuts backed off out of contact from rim so they don't 
rust/oxidize to rim and leave you stuck on the road fixing a flat because 
you can't get rusted on nut off to get tube off. Never happened to me. I 
happened to see them patina-ed at home and got them loose. Good thing I 
didn't get stuck with them that way on the road.
 

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-21 Thread Manuel Acosta
Put something meaningful on your bike. To make it your own.
Leafs. Twine. Ring. whatever 

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-21 Thread Christopher Chen
Melon
On Nov 21, 2013 11:41 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Put something meaningful on your bike. To make it your own.
 Leafs. Twine. Ring. whatever

 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease,
 quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when
 building up a new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
My secret? Let Rivendell elves use their secrets and stay out their way! 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:04:07 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Labor $60/hr.
If you watch: $80/hr.
If you give advice: $120/hr.


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 My secret? Let Rivendell elves use their secrets and stay out their way!
 Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:04:07 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease,
 quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when
 building up a new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread islaysteve
Great tips, guys!  Steve, thanks for the memories of friction tape.  Remember 
seeing the blue sparks when you peel it from the roll in the dark?  Patrick, 
wholeheartedly agree with all of you points, especially the stand!

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread George Schick
In keeping with the Dremel tool, use a rotary cutting disc to whack off the 
extra end of an SKS fender stay once fitting and positioning has been 
completed, placing a putty knife blade between the stay and the plastic 
fender to protect it  from being gouged.  Then, switch over to a 
cylindrical grinding bit, using the concave end of it to de-burr and bevel 
the end of the cut-off stay.  For easier installation of the plastic end 
cap, quickly slide it onto the end of the Dremeled stay while it's still 
warm.

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:04:07 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Jan Heine
Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensive, superlight and look nice.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Ryan
MeI like those Nitto barend plugs
On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:45:50 PM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote: 

 Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensive, superlight and look nice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Moore
Only if the wine is grand cru.

Patrick Moore, busily drinking vin *tres* ordinaire in ABQ, NM.


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote:

 MeI like those Nitto barend plugs
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:45:50 PM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote:

 Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensive, superlight and look nice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Bill Gibson
Use needlenose pliers when substituting a hammer, nail, and nut for a chain
tool.
No bike stand? Hang the bike from a tree or a skyhook with a loop of cord.
Portable and versatile, too, when far from shop and home.



On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Only if the wine is grand cru.

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 MeI like those Nitto barend plugs
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:45:50 PM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote:

 Wine corks as barend plugs. Inexpensive, superlight and look nice.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Perry
Leave some extra length in cable runs  and don't finish off handlebars. Ride it 
for a while like that and once satisfied with handlebar/stem, come back for 
final trim tape, etc. 

• Perry

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Perry
One more. If you're not planning on/sure about fenders, slip a piece of old 
inner tube over fork steerer and down to crown before assembly. Slip it over 
the bottom headset cup after assembly/adjustment. It will prevent water from 
shooting into bottom of headset like a power wash during a downpour. 2 wide 
inner tube is about perfect. Of course, this will most definitely offend anyone 
who believes that a bike without full fenders is an abomination. ;)

• Perry

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread dougP
Anti-sieze compound for stuff like stems, seat posts, pedals, cranks, etc.  
Anything subject to corrosion, especially aluminum / steel interfaces.  
Permatex anti-sieze hangs around long after grease, even Phil's, is gone.  
Been using it since the motorcycle days.  Good stuff.

dougP

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread sameness


 Leave some extra length in cable runs and don't finish off handlebars. 
 Ride it for a while like that and once satisfied with handlebar/stem, come 
 back for final trim tape, etc. 

 • Perry 


I need a sign taped to the top tube reading LEAVE HOUSING LONG every time 
I'm in an eager rush to finish a build. The surest way to guarantee I'll 
want to play with bar height is to get the cables and tape perfect 
beforehand.

I also keep an old set of longish brake and shifter cables for this express 
purpose. When everything's copacetic, I swap in the newies. I can't stand 
seeing even a hint of crimped cable before or after the bolt.

I try to never stay on one particularly troublesome task for more than 
three failed attempts or 30 minutes without taking a quick break. When I 
return, the issues are often illuminated like moonlight reflected in the 
falling tide. Or I've just grabbed a beer and a hammer.

And I'll gladly trade three correct, purpose-built tools for one ancient, 
half empty tub of Phil Hand Cleaner.

Jeff Hagedorn
Warragul, VIC Australia

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Iron Rider
I send this comment:
 

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:52:23 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:

 Anti-sieze compound for stuff like stems, seat posts, pedals, cranks, 
 etc.  Anything subject to corrosion, especially aluminum / steel 
 interfaces.  Permatex anti-sieze hangs around long after grease, even 
 Phil's, is gone.  Been using it since the motorcycle days.  Good stuff.

  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
No school like the old school. Mill Valley Cyclery used to do this to all 
their mountain bike builds in the mid-'80s.

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:21:23 PM UTC-8, Perry wrote:

 One more. If you're not planning on/sure about fenders, slip a piece of 
 old inner tube over fork steerer and down to crown before assembly. Slip it 
 over the bottom headset cup after assembly/adjustment. It will prevent 
 water from shooting into bottom of headset like a power wash during a 
 downpour. 2 wide inner tube is about perfect. Of course, this will most 
 definitely offend anyone who believes that a bike without full fenders is 
 an abomination. ;) 

 • Perry 


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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
Boom. I'm stealing this. Great idea. My uncle the mechanic always had one 
of those, along with a mirror-on-a-stick. 
Thanks!


On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:51:32 PM UTC-8, velomann wrote:

 One tool I use a lot, and I'd be lost without, is one of those retractable 
 magnet wands. Looks like a shiny pen  - or car antennae - folded up. Super 
 useful in sucking the bearings out of a wheel or BB when rebuilding. Also 
 useful for sweeping the floor for same bearings when you didn't get them 
 all in the jar lid you were using as a temporary tray.

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread rob markwardt
I've rebuilt loads of bike but it takes me foreverI'd rather ride than 
wrench.  My philosphy todayDo the easy stuff.  Drop it off at the shop 
for the rest. 

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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[RBW] Re: Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'

2013-11-20 Thread Lynne Fitz
a stand.  Best present I ever bought myself
a bike tools-only tool box.  I have a rolling one.  Best present my husband 
ever bought me
magnetic dish - many of those little parts you took off stay put.
little ratchet wrench with Allen head bits.  Oh yeah.
and unify all the bolts on your bike, as much as possible - same size Allen 
head!
shop apron - another place to have the tool you need handy, and pockets for 
all the little bits you took off the bike..  Plus you don't end up creating 
more sets of garage clothes

On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:04:07 AM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky 
 cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a 
 new bike out replacing components...?

 I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv 
 products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom 
 work at my local co-op.  I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at 
 Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds 
 and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into 
 the frame.

 I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like 
 starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and 
 available, more cush than cork under cotton.  You can also run with it 
 without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter 
 configurations or bar height.  It's really easy to work with and you can 
 even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or 
 add thickness in other places.

 What do you have!?!
 Tony



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