Re: [RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 13:51 -0700, William wrote: > Jim > > It's true that most freewheels can be removed with a big wrench. Most > of the freewheels that are too much for a wrench can be removed by a > vise. Those that cannot be removed with a vice are few. If it's been > on for 10+ years and was used a lot, I'd guess that Minh will need a > vice, but it's only a guess. Or, if it's been on a tandem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
Jim It's true that most freewheels can be removed with a big wrench. Most of the freewheels that are too much for a wrench can be removed by a vise. Those that cannot be removed with a vice are few. If it's been on for 10+ years and was used a lot, I'd guess that Minh will need a vice, but it's only a guess. Bill On Apr 9, 12:38 pm, Jim Cloud wrote: > I've never experienced any problems removing a freewheel (with the > proper freewheel tool) and a large adjustable wrench. I have a Sears > "Craftsman" 12 inch adjustable wrench which does the trick every > time. As long as the freewheel tool is tightened down with the > skewer, it's not going to slip. Campagnolo made a freewheel wrench, > specifically for the two-prong Regina type freewheel, and this tool is > 12 inches in length (I happen to own one). Team mechanics used this > tool to remove innumerable freewheels, I don't think that it's > necessary to use a bench vise, and I never owned one. > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ > On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, yavo wrote: > > > One more data point on freewheel removal. I follow the steps mentioned in > > prior posts, but use my really big adjustable wrench over which I slip a > > 4-foot length of pipe. Then the leverage from this jumbo tool easily > > "breaks" the bond. > > -- > > Fred Yavorsky > > Jenkintown, PAhttp://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, RoadieRyan wrote: > > > "72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets? > > > > I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show > > > in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there. > > > > Ryan > > > > On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > > > > My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that > > > freewheel, but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert. You should be able > > > to > > > order a remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight > > > to the freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on > > > the remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover > > > and/or engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if > > > you > > > don't. > > > > > Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli > > > and on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly, > > > Phil Wood will refurbish the hubs for you. > > > > > --Eric N > > > > Sent from the iPad 2 > > > > > On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh wrote: > > > > > > And for times when they get you into trouble. So i'll take the retro- > > > > > derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up. For some > > > > > odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans > > > > > towards the old. After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension > > > > > in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from > > > > > 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old > > > > > age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older > > > > > then me. > > > > > > Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself > > > > > into trouble buying the old stuff. I picked up this wheel recently > > > > > and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early > > > > > 80's. Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano > > > > > 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use > > > > > this wheel as is. The FW looks to be in ok condition. My concern is > > > > > that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel > > > > > off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to > > > > > remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that > > > > > i'll be able to remove it in a few years. This is an either or > > > > > because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off > > > > > (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one > > > > > small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself. > > > > > > And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up > > > > > this far no reason to think it won't keep going. > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/ > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/ > > > > > > And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on > > > > > freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub > > > > > wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old > > > > > phil wood wheel still spins smooth. > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group a
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
I've never experienced any problems removing a freewheel (with the proper freewheel tool) and a large adjustable wrench. I have a Sears "Craftsman" 12 inch adjustable wrench which does the trick every time. As long as the freewheel tool is tightened down with the skewer, it's not going to slip. Campagnolo made a freewheel wrench, specifically for the two-prong Regina type freewheel, and this tool is 12 inches in length (I happen to own one). Team mechanics used this tool to remove innumerable freewheels, I don't think that it's necessary to use a bench vise, and I never owned one. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, yavo wrote: > One more data point on freewheel removal. I follow the steps mentioned in > prior posts, but use my really big adjustable wrench over which I slip a > 4-foot length of pipe. Then the leverage from this jumbo tool easily > "breaks" the bond. > -- > Fred Yavorsky > Jenkintown, PAhttp://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, RoadieRyan wrote: > > "72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets? > > > I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show > > in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there. > > > Ryan > > > On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > > > My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that > > freewheel, but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert. You should be able to > > order a remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight > > to the freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on > > the remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover > > and/or engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if you > > don't. > > > > Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli > > and on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly, > > Phil Wood will refurbish the hubs for you. > > > > --Eric N > > > Sent from the iPad 2 > > > > On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh wrote: > > > > > And for times when they get you into trouble. So i'll take the retro- > > > > derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up. For some > > > > odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans > > > > towards the old. After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension > > > > in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from > > > > 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old > > > > age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older > > > > then me. > > > > > Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself > > > > into trouble buying the old stuff. I picked up this wheel recently > > > > and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early > > > > 80's. Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano > > > > 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use > > > > this wheel as is. The FW looks to be in ok condition. My concern is > > > > that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel > > > > off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to > > > > remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that > > > > i'll be able to remove it in a few years. This is an either or > > > > because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off > > > > (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one > > > > small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself. > > > > > And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up > > > > this far no reason to think it won't keep going. > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/ > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/ > > > > > And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on > > > > freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub > > > > wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old > > > > phil wood wheel still spins smooth. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > . > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
One more data point on freewheel removal. I follow the steps mentioned in prior posts, but use my really big adjustable wrench over which I slip a 4-foot length of pipe. Then the leverage from this jumbo tool easily "breaks" the bond. -- Fred Yavorsky Jenkintown, PA http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, RoadieRyan wrote: > "72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets? > > I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show > in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there. > > Ryan > > On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > > My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that > freewheel, but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert. You should be able to > order a remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight > to the freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on > the remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover > and/or engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if you > don't. > > > > Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli > and on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly, > Phil Wood will refurbish the hubs for you. > > > > --Eric N > > Sent from the iPad 2 > > > > On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for times when they get you into trouble. So i'll take the retro- > > > derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up. For some > > > odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans > > > towards the old. After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension > > > in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from > > > 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old > > > age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older > > > then me. > > > > > Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself > > > into trouble buying the old stuff. I picked up this wheel recently > > > and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early > > > 80's. Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano > > > 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use > > > this wheel as is. The FW looks to be in ok condition. My concern is > > > that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel > > > off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to > > > remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that > > > i'll be able to remove it in a few years. This is an either or > > > because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off > > > (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one > > > small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself. > > > > > And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up > > > this far no reason to think it won't keep going. > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/ > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/ > > > > > And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on > > > freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub > > > wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old > > > phil wood wheel still spins smooth. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
"72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets? I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there. Ryan On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that freewheel, > but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert. You should be able to order a > remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight to the > freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on the > remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover and/or > engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if you don't. > > Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli and > on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly, Phil > Wood will refurbish the hubs for you. > > --Eric N > Sent from the iPad 2 > > On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh wrote: > > > > > > > > > And for times when they get you into trouble. So i'll take the retro- > > derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up. For some > > odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans > > towards the old. After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension > > in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from > > 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old > > age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older > > then me. > > > Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself > > into trouble buying the old stuff. I picked up this wheel recently > > and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early > > 80's. Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano > > 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use > > this wheel as is. The FW looks to be in ok condition. My concern is > > that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel > > off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to > > remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that > > i'll be able to remove it in a few years. This is an either or > > because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off > > (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one > > small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself. > > > And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up > > this far no reason to think it won't keep going. > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/ > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/ > > > And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on > > freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub > > wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old > > phil wood wheel still spins smooth. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
Sadly, Shaw's in Santa Clara just closed recently. On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:36 PM, bfd wrote: > > > On Apr 8, 3:49 pm, doug peterson wrote: >> Minh: >> >> Where are you located? There's probably a list member that can >> suggest a shop in your area. >> > Agree, or check to see if any of these shops are near you as any one > of them should be able to help you: > > http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/Bike_shops.htm > > Good Luck! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
On Apr 8, 3:49 pm, doug peterson wrote: > Minh: > > Where are you located? There's probably a list member that can > suggest a shop in your area. > Agree, or check to see if any of these shops are near you as any one of them should be able to help you: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/Bike_shops.htm Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
Minh: Where are you located? There's probably a list member that can suggest a shop in your area. Nice Hillborne, I love that orange. Whoever installed the drillium on the chainrings can remove your freewheel. One way or the other dougP On Apr 8, 2:47 pm, Minh wrote: > That's an option, but that assumes that they have the tool :) or they > plan on destroying the freewheel, which seems like a lot of work for > them. I'm also searching for a bikeshop that still works on old > bikes... > > On Apr 8, 5:15 pm, bfd wrote: > > > > > On Apr 8, 2:08 pm, Minh wrote: > > > > There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no > > > longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a > > > tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the > > > archives.http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx > > > > the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit. > > > At $8, its not too pricey. Nevertheless, for about that much, or a few > > dollars more, why not take it into your LBS and have them remove it, > > especially if you're planning never using that fw again. Unless you > > want yet another bike specific tool in your toolbox, you may want to > > consider just taking it in and let the pros do it! Good Luck!- Hide quoted > > text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
I've got a box - literally - of freewheels, and the 4 or 5 Shimano 600's I have are among my favorites. All mine come off with the regular Shimano freewheel tool, still easily available from Park and in most decent bike shops. Some of the older Shimano freewheels take the old style "boss" tool which is harder to find and harder to use - the inner diameter is small enough you actually have to remove the locknut to get the tool on. But I've never seen a 600 that uses this. And putting the freewheel tool down in the bench vise and turning the wheel COUNTER CLOCKWISE has always worked for me. With tough ones I sometimes think I'm gonna bust a spoke, but it's never happened yet, and I've never been defeated by a truly stuck freewheel. I HAVE had some freewheels that gave me a devil of a time when I tried to dis-assemble them for cleaning. The Shimano ones with the little lockring are a bi*** because you can't start them with a chainwhip, but so far as I know, that doesn't include the 600's. 2 pluses on the 600's - they have a nice dustcap that does a pretty good job sealing the mechanism - though it can crack. And once you have it all broken down with cogs removed, the frreewheel has 2 oil ports (resembles Dura-Ace freewheels this way. May be the same freewheel as far as I can tell). I snag any cheap 600 freewheels I run across and have never regretted running one. Whoops - just looked at your picture. Um, nevermind. Haven't seen that one. On Apr 8, 1:07 pm, Minh wrote: > And for times when they get you into trouble. So i'll take the retro- > derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up. For some > odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans > towards the old. After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension > in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from > 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old > age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older > then me. > > Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself > into trouble buying the old stuff. I picked up this wheel recently > and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early > 80's. Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano > 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use > this wheel as is. The FW looks to be in ok condition. My concern is > that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel > off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to > remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that > i'll be able to remove it in a few years. This is an either or > because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off > (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one > small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself. > > And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up > this far no reason to think it won't keep going. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/ > > And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on > freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub > wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old > phil wood wheel still spins smooth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
That's an option, but that assumes that they have the tool :) or they plan on destroying the freewheel, which seems like a lot of work for them. I'm also searching for a bikeshop that still works on old bikes... On Apr 8, 5:15 pm, bfd wrote: > On Apr 8, 2:08 pm, Minh wrote: > > > There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no > > longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a > > tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the > > archives.http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx > > > the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit. > > At $8, its not too pricey. Nevertheless, for about that much, or a few > dollars more, why not take it into your LBS and have them remove it, > especially if you're planning never using that fw again. Unless you > want yet another bike specific tool in your toolbox, you may want to > consider just taking it in and let the pros do it! Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
On Apr 8, 2:08 pm, Minh wrote: > There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no > longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a > tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the > archives.http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx > > the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit. At $8, its not too pricey. Nevertheless, for about that much, or a few dollars more, why not take it into your LBS and have them remove it, especially if you're planning never using that fw again. Unless you want yet another bike specific tool in your toolbox, you may want to consider just taking it in and let the pros do it! Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the archives. http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...
The two prong freewheel tool setup was problematic, but you should be able to get it off when you need to do so. This is the procedure I always used in my years at the bike shop. 1. Freewheel tool into the freewheel 2. QR skewer back onto the wheel holding the freewheel tool snug against the freewheel 3. Freewheel tool flats get held TIGHT with your bench vice 4. Turn the wheel to break freewheel free 5. Remove skewer 6. Finish unthreading freewheel The bench vice is non-negotiable. You have to have a bench vice. If you can get it off with a bigass crescent wrench then it was never tight in the first place. If you skip step 2, or if you dont use a bench vice, you take on significant risk of damaging the slots in the freewheel body, or the tool or both. Once those flat slots become ramped slots, you could be hosed. For freewheels that are impossible to remove, you use a pin spanner or a drift punch to unscrew the bearing retainer, remove the sprockets part of the freewheel, let the bearings all fall on the floor. Pull the ratchet pawls and springs, and you'll be left with just the inner body, which will have places on it where you can squeeze that in your bench vice and get it off. This destroys the freewheel but allows you to use your wheel. On Apr 8, 1:07 pm, Minh wrote: > And for times when they get you into trouble. So i'll take the retro- > derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up. For some > odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans > towards the old. After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension > in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from > 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old > age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older > then me. > > Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself > into trouble buying the old stuff. I picked up this wheel recently > and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early > 80's. Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano > 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use > this wheel as is. The FW looks to be in ok condition. My concern is > that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel > off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to > remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that > i'll be able to remove it in a few years. This is an either or > because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off > (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one > small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself. > > And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up > this far no reason to think it won't keep going. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/ > > And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on > freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub > wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old > phil wood wheel still spins smooth. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
