Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Patrick Moore]

Bill: I've been wrestling in prayer with one of my dimmer senior
engineering clients, and with that as back screen I have to say: thank you
for the clarity of your descriptions, the quality of your photographs, and
the thoroughness of your experiments. Also, get a SA AM hub. And you can't
have that Libertas.



On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 2:37 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Eighth summit on my eighth bike in the eighth month today.  This time it
> was on my Crust Single Speed Lightning Bolt, set up with a Gates Belt drive
> and a 3-speed hub.
>
> The album is updated:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 12:42:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Because I've gotten in the habit, I have kept my streak going of riding
>> to the top of Mount Diablo every month in 2024.  My seventh month in a row
>> was on my seventh different bike.  It was HOT, but nowhere near as bad as
>> it could have been.  The max I saw on my Wahoo was 37C.
>>
>> I can see a path to going 12 for 12, including the forthcoming RoadUno
>> being one of the bikes this Fall.  I stopped by Riv HQ to straddle the 54.5
>> and the 58 RoadUno, just to make sure I want to go HUGE.  The standover on
>> the 58 is "right there" but riding it is so perfecto, that I've just got to
>> go big.
>>
>> The seven for seven album is updated:
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>>>
>>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>>>
>>> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics
>>> prove it:
>>>
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism
 on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e.
 "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the
 specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".

 I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable,
 (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has
 improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm
 a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive 
 about *something
 , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a
 good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny
 S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking
 W's.

 My big picture goals for 2024 include:

 10,000km ridden
 Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
 Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
 Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
 Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
 Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
 Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my
 birthday as a regular event

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

Eighth summit on my eighth bike in the eighth month today.  This time it 
was on my Crust Single Speed Lightning Bolt, set up with a Gates Belt drive 
and a 3-speed hub.  

The album is 
updated: https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 12:42:51 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Because I've gotten in the habit, I have kept my streak going of riding to 
> the top of Mount Diablo every month in 2024.  My seventh month in a row was 
> on my seventh different bike.  It was HOT, but nowhere near as bad as it 
> could have been.  The max I saw on my Wahoo was 37C.  
>
> I can see a path to going 12 for 12, including the forthcoming RoadUno 
> being one of the bikes this Fall.  I stopped by Riv HQ to straddle the 54.5 
> and the 58 RoadUno, just to make sure I want to go HUGE.  The standover on 
> the 58 is "right there" but riding it is so perfecto, that I've just got to 
> go big.  
>
> The seven for seven album is updated:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>>
>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>>
>> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
>> prove it:
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism 
>>> on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. 
>>> "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the 
>>> specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>>>
>>> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
>>> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
>>> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
>>> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
>>> *something 
>>> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a 
>>> good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny 
>>> S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking 
>>> W's.  
>>>
>>> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>>>
>>> 10,000km ridden
>>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>>> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
>>> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
>>> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
>>> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
>>> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
>>> birthday as a regular event
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

Because I've gotten in the habit, I have kept my streak going of riding to 
the top of Mount Diablo every month in 2024.  My seventh month in a row was 
on my seventh different bike.  It was HOT, but nowhere near as bad as it 
could have been.  The max I saw on my Wahoo was 37C.  

I can see a path to going 12 for 12, including the forthcoming RoadUno 
being one of the bikes this Fall.  I stopped by Riv HQ to straddle the 54.5 
and the 58 RoadUno, just to make sure I want to go HUGE.  The standover on 
the 58 is "right there" but riding it is so perfecto, that I've just got to 
go big.  

The seven for seven album is updated:

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/

BL in EC

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>
> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>
> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
> prove it:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism 
>> on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. 
>> "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the 
>> specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>>
>> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
>> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
>> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
>> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
>> *something 
>> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a 
>> good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny 
>> S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking 
>> W's.  
>>
>> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>>
>> 10,000km ridden
>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
>> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
>> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
>> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
>> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
>> birthday as a regular event
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[aeroperf]

Since 2016 my goal has generally been to do one more mile in a month than I 
did in that month the year before.
The real reason for this was to be reasonably healthy for an annual bike 
tour - Nantes to Brest Canal in Brittany, the Camino de Santiago across 
northern Spain - that kind of thing.

But getting old is not for sissies.  This year I turned 75, noticably 
slower, and my touring partner is down for a heart repair. 

So… 2024 New Goal:  Electrify my touring bike (a Soma Saga Disc) with a 
Tongsheng mid drive unit.  If that works, then the goal for 2025 will be to 
electrify my Sam Hillborne and ride the GAP.  Looking forward to that.

Has anybody admitted to doing an electric Sam?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

For me, I'm waiting till the schedule ramps down to the 100k mixto on
8/18.  For you, there is that 400k, after the 300k, that you've been
itching to do :).

Toshi, relaxing in Oakland.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

>
> thanks Toshi.  Randonesia in full effect, I signed up for Old Caz 300.
> That's another monster, but it has a lot fewer off-road miles.
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

thanks Toshi.  Randonesia in full effect, I signed up for Old Caz 300. 
 That's another monster, but it has a lot fewer off-road miles.

BL in EC

On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 9:56:59 AM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote:

> Hats off to you Bill!  That's a huge accomplishment.  
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 9:59 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> "The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin 
>> Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable."
>>
>> I rode the Marin Mountains 200k yesterday.  I did the ride, and finished 
>> the full course, so I'm calling it done.  In a lot of ways, that ride is 
>> the icing on the cake for a bunch of smaller wins that served as prep for 
>> this ride.  Technically, I was 11 minutes over the time limit, though, so 
>> if you look it up on my RUSA record, it might not be there.  It was a 
>> MONSTER.  Here's the route:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36612186
>>
>> Two more to go!
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 10:22:41 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> In January I listed 7 S.M.A.R.T. goals and had completed 3 of them.  I 
>>> finished another S.M.A.R.T. goal yesterday, and this one took some real 
>>> determination and focus.  This one was to complete 25% of each individual 
>>> city of Contra Costa County on Wandrer.earth.  The extra 
>>> determination/effort was the act of curating a bunch of rides and doing a 
>>> lot of driving to get to a ride out at the nether regions of my county.  
>>> The last city on the list was Antioch.  25% was the number because Wandrer 
>>> gives a bonus at 25%, so that program of getting 25% of every city 
>>> maximized my points and cements my #1 status for Contra Costa County.  I 
>>> had been doing a kind of tug-of-war with one other rider who wanted to have 
>>> that top spot.  This 25% goal was part of my "shock and awe" campaign to 
>>> put my top-spot out of reach.  1 point on Wandrer represents 1 new-mile 
>>> covered.  At the end of 2023, both me and "the challenger" were around 3000 
>>> points in Contra Costa County.  Now that the "shock and awe" campaign is 
>>> complete, the challenger is at 3200 points, and I'm at 7200 points, because 
>>> of all the bonuses I've been racking up.  I wanted to get this done before 
>>> the real summer heat kicked in, because the eastern/inland part of Contra 
>>> Costa is where the >100 degree days are common.
>>>
>>> The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin 
>>> Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:

 Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes

 I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
 prove it:

 https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a 
> schism on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: 
> i.e. 
> "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the 
> specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>
> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal 
> has 
> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. 
> I'm 
> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive 
> about *something 
> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a 
> good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny 
> S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking 
> W's.  
>
> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>
> 10,000km ridden
> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
> birthday as a regular event
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hats off to you Bill!  That's a huge accomplishment.

Toshi


On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 9:59 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> "The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin
> Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable."
>
> I rode the Marin Mountains 200k yesterday.  I did the ride, and finished
> the full course, so I'm calling it done.  In a lot of ways, that ride is
> the icing on the cake for a bunch of smaller wins that served as prep for
> this ride.  Technically, I was 11 minutes over the time limit, though, so
> if you look it up on my RUSA record, it might not be there.  It was a
> MONSTER.  Here's the route:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36612186
>
> Two more to go!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 10:22:41 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> In January I listed 7 S.M.A.R.T. goals and had completed 3 of them.  I
>> finished another S.M.A.R.T. goal yesterday, and this one took some real
>> determination and focus.  This one was to complete 25% of each individual
>> city of Contra Costa County on Wandrer.earth.  The extra
>> determination/effort was the act of curating a bunch of rides and doing a
>> lot of driving to get to a ride out at the nether regions of my county.
>> The last city on the list was Antioch.  25% was the number because Wandrer
>> gives a bonus at 25%, so that program of getting 25% of every city
>> maximized my points and cements my #1 status for Contra Costa County.  I
>> had been doing a kind of tug-of-war with one other rider who wanted to have
>> that top spot.  This 25% goal was part of my "shock and awe" campaign to
>> put my top-spot out of reach.  1 point on Wandrer represents 1 new-mile
>> covered.  At the end of 2023, both me and "the challenger" were around 3000
>> points in Contra Costa County.  Now that the "shock and awe" campaign is
>> complete, the challenger is at 3200 points, and I'm at 7200 points, because
>> of all the bonuses I've been racking up.  I wanted to get this done before
>> the real summer heat kicked in, because the eastern/inland part of Contra
>> Costa is where the >100 degree days are common.
>>
>> The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin
>> Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>>>
>>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>>>
>>> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics
>>> prove it:
>>>
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism
 on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e.
 "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the
 specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".

 I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable,
 (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has
 improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm
 a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive 
 about *something
 , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a
 good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny
 S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking
 W's.

 My big picture goals for 2024 include:

 10,000km ridden
 Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
 Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
 Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
 Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
 Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
 Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my
 birthday as a regular event

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

"The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin 
Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable."

I rode the Marin Mountains 200k yesterday.  I did the ride, and finished 
the full course, so I'm calling it done.  In a lot of ways, that ride is 
the icing on the cake for a bunch of smaller wins that served as prep for 
this ride.  Technically, I was 11 minutes over the time limit, though, so 
if you look it up on my RUSA record, it might not be there.  It was a 
MONSTER.  Here's the route:  https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36612186

Two more to go!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 10:22:41 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> In January I listed 7 S.M.A.R.T. goals and had completed 3 of them.  I 
> finished another S.M.A.R.T. goal yesterday, and this one took some real 
> determination and focus.  This one was to complete 25% of each individual 
> city of Contra Costa County on Wandrer.earth.  The extra 
> determination/effort was the act of curating a bunch of rides and doing a 
> lot of driving to get to a ride out at the nether regions of my county. 
>  The last city on the list was Antioch.  25% was the number because Wandrer 
> gives a bonus at 25%, so that program of getting 25% of every city 
> maximized my points and cements my #1 status for Contra Costa County.  I 
> had been doing a kind of tug-of-war with one other rider who wanted to have 
> that top spot.  This 25% goal was part of my "shock and awe" campaign to 
> put my top-spot out of reach.  1 point on Wandrer represents 1 new-mile 
> covered.  At the end of 2023, both me and "the challenger" were around 3000 
> points in Contra Costa County.  Now that the "shock and awe" campaign is 
> complete, the challenger is at 3200 points, and I'm at 7200 points, because 
> of all the bonuses I've been racking up.  I wanted to get this done before 
> the real summer heat kicked in, because the eastern/inland part of Contra 
> Costa is where the >100 degree days are common.
>
> The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin 
> Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>>
>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>>
>> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
>> prove it:
>>
>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism 
>>> on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. 
>>> "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the 
>>> specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>>>
>>> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
>>> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
>>> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
>>> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
>>> *something 
>>> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a 
>>> good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny 
>>> S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking 
>>> W's.  
>>>
>>> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>>>
>>> 10,000km ridden
>>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>>> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
>>> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
>>> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
>>> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
>>> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
>>> birthday as a regular event
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Sorry for my late reply!  I'm catching up on the posts after a busy week.

Brady, you are doing great and are smart to realize when it's not your day
and throw in the towel.  The SR series will happen, no doubt!

--Ted, I agree that sometimes we can get obsessed with the goal and both
fail to enjoy the process and pursue the goal to the detriment of our
health and wellbeing too.  At the same time I can relate to the sunk cost
situation where I am 11/12ths of the way there, and even though the 12th
one is going to be horrible, I don't want to start over at 1 again.

It's important to remind ourselves that we are riding for fun
(acknowledging that there are different types of "fun") and while
perseverance is something to foster, it should not be to the detriment of
our long-term health and well being.

Stay safe and have "fun"!
Toshi in Oakland, CA

P.S. I'm planning on a Santa Cruz 200k on June 22nd, which should be
relatively relaxed (compared to Bill's Marin mountains challenge!).  After
that a 100k mixed terrain ride up Mt. Tam--super fun SFR ride in August (El
Paseito Mixto).  Maybe I'll see some list members that day?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Brady Smith]

I definitely get what Ted is saying about putting yourself in a prison with
objective goals.

My big goal this year was to do my first SR series. I did a 200-300-400k
last year. All I needed was to add a 600. Easy, right?

I wound up calling it quits on the 400k last weekend with about 100 miles
to go. I'd already endured an extremely difficult 300k, followed by a week
in Washington DC with 80 8th graders in which we probably walked 50 miles,
then a mild bout of the flu acquired from the aforementioned kids, and then
another cold that arrived the day before the 400k set out. I was tired when
I started, and I knew it. I pushed too hard over the first 60 miles trying
to stay with a group and out of the wind, and then pushed through another
80 windy, hot, hilly miles alone as cramps and body aches set in, none of
which seemed to respond to any amount of calories or fluids.

By the time I got to a nice park bench next to a stream in Marysvale, UT, I
knew I had a choice: I could call it quits and find a ride back to the
start, or I could sleep for a few hours, stock up on water and food, and
ride through the night in the hopes of getting to the finish by the 8am
deadline. The latter was certainly possible, and I think, had I been trying
to qualify for something, I could have done it, but it would have meant
blowing up Sunday at home, and probably Monday at school, a day when I was
supposed to be helping our 8th graders get ready for graduation. Even after
calling it quits I had to duck out of a Monday afternoon assembly for fear
of snoring through a student drama performance. I fell asleep with my head
on my desk like a tired child for the last half hour of school until the
sound of kids outside woke me up.

All of which is to say that the thing I constantly struggle with is
balancing my rather grandiose cycling ambitions with the reality of being a
teacher, a husband, and a dad. I suppose a lot of us probably do. I hope to
do an SR series someday, probably next year, but for now I'm letting that
goal go and doing a final 300k safe in the knowledge that I'll only be away
from home for one night instead of two. For the rest of the summer the goal
is combining as much cycling and fishing as possible while also civilizing
the rather savage (but amazing!) Jack Russell terrier we adopted a few
weeks ago.

Brady in SLC



On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:47 PM Ted Durant  wrote:

> I am a numbers guy to a fault. Having suffered some over-training issues
> in 2020, I spent 2021 and 2022 trying to be a bit less gung-ho about being
> on the bike every day. Going into 2023, I had a goals discussion with the
> guy I ride with a lot (an actuary ... very hard core numbers guy). We've
> done SR's and an R-12 together, so lots of km's under our wheels. In our
> conversation we talked about the prison we can put ourselves in with
> objective goals. At some point it can become all about meeting the goals,
> rather than enjoying the experiences that those goals represent. I'm not
> saying it happens to everyone, and I'm not saying it even happened to us,
> though my friend did a solo 200km ride on a -10 degree (Farenheit) January
> 31st to earn his R-12. He's glad he did it and achieved his goal, but he
> couldn't say he enjoyed that last ride. So, at the end of the conversation
> I formulated my goals for 2023: Ride a lot. Enjoy all of it. At the end of
> the year I felt I had achieved those goals. I accumulated 8,555 kms on 176
> rides, which seems like a pretty large number, and I honestly enjoyed all
> of it. So, I'm committed to those same goals for 2024.
>
> I also have a running "ride your age" (in miles) streak going with my
> step-sister, who's just a couple of years behind me. She lives on Cape Cod
> and her birthday is in early January. My birthday is in November, so we
> both face weather challenges that are more significant than the distance,
> at this point. We aren't too persnickety about it happening right on the
> birthday.
>
> In the back of my mind I wonder about doing a 1200k in my age (in hours).
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Ted Durant]

I am a numbers guy to a fault. Having suffered some over-training issues in 
2020, I spent 2021 and 2022 trying to be a bit less gung-ho about being on 
the bike every day. Going into 2023, I had a goals discussion with the guy 
I ride with a lot (an actuary ... very hard core numbers guy). We've done 
SR's and an R-12 together, so lots of km's under our wheels. In our 
conversation we talked about the prison we can put ourselves in with 
objective goals. At some point it can become all about meeting the goals, 
rather than enjoying the experiences that those goals represent. I'm not 
saying it happens to everyone, and I'm not saying it even happened to us, 
though my friend did a solo 200km ride on a -10 degree (Farenheit) January 
31st to earn his R-12. He's glad he did it and achieved his goal, but he 
couldn't say he enjoyed that last ride. So, at the end of the conversation 
I formulated my goals for 2023: Ride a lot. Enjoy all of it. At the end of 
the year I felt I had achieved those goals. I accumulated 8,555 kms on 176 
rides, which seems like a pretty large number, and I honestly enjoyed all 
of it. So, I'm committed to those same goals for 2024.

I also have a running "ride your age" (in miles) streak going with my 
step-sister, who's just a couple of years behind me. She lives on Cape Cod 
and her birthday is in early January. My birthday is in November, so we 
both face weather challenges that are more significant than the distance, 
at this point. We aren't too persnickety about it happening right on the 
birthday.

In the back of my mind I wonder about doing a 1200k in my age (in hours). 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm already working on the mental aspects, and need to make sure my 
hydration strategy is sound.

BL in EC

On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 11:26:29 AM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote:

> Good job, Bill!  Good luck on the Marin Mountains 200k.  That's way harder 
> than any 400k I've ridden.
>
> Toshi in Oakland, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Good job, Bill!  Good luck on the Marin Mountains 200k.  That's way harder
than any 400k I've ridden.

Toshi in Oakland, CA

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[RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

In January I listed 7 S.M.A.R.T. goals and had completed 3 of them.  I 
finished another S.M.A.R.T. goal yesterday, and this one took some real 
determination and focus.  This one was to complete 25% of each individual 
city of Contra Costa County on Wandrer.earth.  The extra 
determination/effort was the act of curating a bunch of rides and doing a 
lot of driving to get to a ride out at the nether regions of my county. 
 The last city on the list was Antioch.  25% was the number because Wandrer 
gives a bonus at 25%, so that program of getting 25% of every city 
maximized my points and cements my #1 status for Contra Costa County.  I 
had been doing a kind of tug-of-war with one other rider who wanted to have 
that top spot.  This 25% goal was part of my "shock and awe" campaign to 
put my top-spot out of reach.  1 point on Wandrer represents 1 new-mile 
covered.  At the end of 2023, both me and "the challenger" were around 3000 
points in Contra Costa County.  Now that the "shock and awe" campaign is 
complete, the challenger is at 3200 points, and I'm at 7200 points, because 
of all the bonuses I've been racking up.  I wanted to get this done before 
the real summer heat kicked in, because the eastern/inland part of Contra 
Costa is where the >100 degree days are common.

The last three on my list are: 25% of Marin County, Finish the Marin 
Mountains 200k, and ride 10,000km.  Those are all still achievable.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 4:45:47 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>
> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>
> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
> prove it:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism 
>> on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. 
>> "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the 
>> specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>>
>> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
>> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
>> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
>> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
>> *something 
>> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a 
>> good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny 
>> S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking 
>> W's.  
>>
>> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>>
>> 10,000km ridden
>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
>> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
>> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
>> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
>> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
>> birthday as a regular event
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

A whisky and go to bed early!

BL in EC

On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 7:00:44 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:

> Great job!
>
> What are you doing to celebrate?
>
> On May 19, 2024, at 7:45 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:
>
>
> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>
> I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
> prove it:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism 
>> on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. 
>> "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the 
>> specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>>
>> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
>> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
>> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
>> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
>> *something 
>> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a 
>> good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny 
>> S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking 
>> W's.  
>>
>> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>>
>> 10,000km ridden
>> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
>> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
>> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
>> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
>> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
>> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
>> birthday as a regular event
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Jason Noonievut]

Great job!What are you doing to celebrate?On May 19, 2024, at 7:45 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikesI did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics prove it:https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism on how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. "average 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the specificity: i.e. "have more fun on the bike".I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about something , so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a good thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny S.M.A.R.T. goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking W's.  My big picture goals for 2024 include:10,000km riddenSummit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikesPut myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevetComplete the Marin Mountains 200k brevetComplete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on WandrerComplete 25% of Marin County on WandrerRide 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my birthday as a regular eventBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA



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[RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Bill Lindsay]

One of my 2024 goals is knocked down.  I stated the goal:

Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes

I did my fifth summit of Diablo today on my fifth different bike.  Pics 
prove it:

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313832831/

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 6:48:14 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism on 
> how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. "average 
> 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the specificity: 
> i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>
> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
> *something 
> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a good 
> thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny S.M.A.R.T. 
> goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking W's.  
>
> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>
> 10,000km ridden
> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
> birthday as a regular event
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Brenton Eastman]

I'm claiming 2024 miles in 2024. Should be pretty easy to knock out, half 
the challenge will be remembering to hit record on the RWGPS app!

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 6:36:29 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> John, well said!!!   At the risk of using a word that has become 
> trivialized by consumer culture, you have eloquently described the Zen of 
> cycling.  I don't find it on every ride, but it is indeed my goal, and is 
> what keeps me coming back for more. 
>
> Steve
> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> May each of you reach and fully enjoy reaching each of your SMART goals 
>> throughout the upcoming year! 
>>
>> Steve, I really align with your goal of enjoying each ride, and this will 
>> continue to be a goal for me. I find the crux of the matter lies in being 
>> *present* during each of my rides; the more present I am the more I seem 
>> to enjoy the ride. Being present means I listen to my tires roll over the 
>> trail, smell the cedars, and glimpse the birds, fish, and other wildlife or 
>> flowers and fungi that adorn our forest and river trails. I feel the 
>> vibrations and textures of the landscape, and I appreciate the working of 
>> my legs, lungs, and heart in concert to keep me moving. I often find that 
>> my mind has a mind of its own and wants to wander to places and times other 
>> than the here and now. It's so easy to be distracted by other cares only to 
>> snap to some time later and realize that I haven't taken in any of the 
>> things that make riding so wonderful. It is a long-standing goal to try and 
>> practice this in all I do, and especially when I do that which I love- 
>> riding a bike.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:16:00 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> I like the Wandrer goals especially because it forces one to explore 
>>> their surroundings thoroughly. I haven't set a goal specific to this, but I 
>>> should consider it. It's probably my top pick for things that are magical 
>>> about riding a bike.  It's my kind of competitive. 
>>>
>>> The only goal I've explicitly set for myself is to bike-commute at least 
>>> once every week for the year, excluding vacation weeks. I only need to go 
>>> in twice a week, otherwise i'm wfh. It's about an hour's ride each way; not 
>>> too long but long enough it takes a bit of commitment.  I typically end up 
>>> in the 6000 - 7500 km range for the year. 
>>>
>>> Another, less explicit goal is to get out for at least a few overnighter 
>>> campouts on the bike. Three to six nights is reasonable. We have two dogs, 
>>> one of which is quite reactive and a stress-ball, so we can't get 
>>> dog-sitters nor take him with; this means I have to leave my partner to 
>>> take care of both dogs (which need to be walked separately) so being away 
>>> is a bit of an ask; hence the modest goal here. It's a balance. 
>>>
>>> On Friday 12 January 2024 at 18:32:41 UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 My goals for 2024 are to enjoy every ride I take and to break for 
 coffee outdoors on any ride over one hour in duration. We'll see if I can 
 achieve them. 

 Steve in Asheville


 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 8:19:54 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> I'm planning on completing a 200k, 300k and 400k randonee in 
> preparation for the SRCC Terrible Two (TT), where I am hoping to finish 
> with at least an hour of time to spare.  I've only completed the TT with 
> under 30 minutes to spare and am trying to pick up the pace for "fun", 
> why 
> not?
>
> Toshi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Steve]

John, well said!!!   At the risk of using a word that has become 
trivialized by consumer culture, you have eloquently described the Zen of 
cycling.  I don't find it on every ride, but it is indeed my goal, and is 
what keeps me coming back for more. 

Steve
On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 11:41:40 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> May each of you reach and fully enjoy reaching each of your SMART goals 
> throughout the upcoming year! 
>
> Steve, I really align with your goal of enjoying each ride, and this will 
> continue to be a goal for me. I find the crux of the matter lies in being 
> *present* during each of my rides; the more present I am the more I seem 
> to enjoy the ride. Being present means I listen to my tires roll over the 
> trail, smell the cedars, and glimpse the birds, fish, and other wildlife or 
> flowers and fungi that adorn our forest and river trails. I feel the 
> vibrations and textures of the landscape, and I appreciate the working of 
> my legs, lungs, and heart in concert to keep me moving. I often find that 
> my mind has a mind of its own and wants to wander to places and times other 
> than the here and now. It's so easy to be distracted by other cares only to 
> snap to some time later and realize that I haven't taken in any of the 
> things that make riding so wonderful. It is a long-standing goal to try and 
> practice this in all I do, and especially when I do that which I love- 
> riding a bike.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:16:00 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I like the Wandrer goals especially because it forces one to explore 
>> their surroundings thoroughly. I haven't set a goal specific to this, but I 
>> should consider it. It's probably my top pick for things that are magical 
>> about riding a bike.  It's my kind of competitive. 
>>
>> The only goal I've explicitly set for myself is to bike-commute at least 
>> once every week for the year, excluding vacation weeks. I only need to go 
>> in twice a week, otherwise i'm wfh. It's about an hour's ride each way; not 
>> too long but long enough it takes a bit of commitment.  I typically end up 
>> in the 6000 - 7500 km range for the year. 
>>
>> Another, less explicit goal is to get out for at least a few overnighter 
>> campouts on the bike. Three to six nights is reasonable. We have two dogs, 
>> one of which is quite reactive and a stress-ball, so we can't get 
>> dog-sitters nor take him with; this means I have to leave my partner to 
>> take care of both dogs (which need to be walked separately) so being away 
>> is a bit of an ask; hence the modest goal here. It's a balance. 
>>
>> On Friday 12 January 2024 at 18:32:41 UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> My goals for 2024 are to enjoy every ride I take and to break for coffee 
>>> outdoors on any ride over one hour in duration. We'll see if I can achieve 
>>> them. 
>>>
>>> Steve in Asheville
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 8:19:54 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
>>>
 I'm planning on completing a 200k, 300k and 400k randonee in 
 preparation for the SRCC Terrible Two (TT), where I am hoping to finish 
 with at least an hour of time to spare.  I've only completed the TT with 
 under 30 minutes to spare and am trying to pick up the pace for "fun", why 
 not?

 Toshi



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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[John Rinker]

May each of you reach and fully enjoy reaching each of your SMART goals 
throughout the upcoming year! 

Steve, I really align with your goal of enjoying each ride, and this will 
continue to be a goal for me. I find the crux of the matter lies in being 
*present* during each of my rides; the more present I am the more I seem to 
enjoy the ride. Being present means I listen to my tires roll over the 
trail, smell the cedars, and glimpse the birds, fish, and other wildlife or 
flowers and fungi that adorn our forest and river trails. I feel the 
vibrations and textures of the landscape, and I appreciate the working of 
my legs, lungs, and heart in concert to keep me moving. I often find that 
my mind has a mind of its own and wants to wander to places and times other 
than the here and now. It's so easy to be distracted by other cares only to 
snap to some time later and realize that I haven't taken in any of the 
things that make riding so wonderful. It is a long-standing goal to try and 
practice this in all I do, and especially when I do that which I love- 
riding a bike.

Cheers, John

On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:16:00 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I like the Wandrer goals especially because it forces one to explore their 
> surroundings thoroughly. I haven't set a goal specific to this, but I 
> should consider it. It's probably my top pick for things that are magical 
> about riding a bike.  It's my kind of competitive. 
>
> The only goal I've explicitly set for myself is to bike-commute at least 
> once every week for the year, excluding vacation weeks. I only need to go 
> in twice a week, otherwise i'm wfh. It's about an hour's ride each way; not 
> too long but long enough it takes a bit of commitment.  I typically end up 
> in the 6000 - 7500 km range for the year. 
>
> Another, less explicit goal is to get out for at least a few overnighter 
> campouts on the bike. Three to six nights is reasonable. We have two dogs, 
> one of which is quite reactive and a stress-ball, so we can't get 
> dog-sitters nor take him with; this means I have to leave my partner to 
> take care of both dogs (which need to be walked separately) so being away 
> is a bit of an ask; hence the modest goal here. It's a balance. 
>
> On Friday 12 January 2024 at 18:32:41 UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My goals for 2024 are to enjoy every ride I take and to break for coffee 
>> outdoors on any ride over one hour in duration. We'll see if I can achieve 
>> them. 
>>
>> Steve in Asheville
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 8:19:54 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm planning on completing a 200k, 300k and 400k randonee in preparation 
>>> for the SRCC Terrible Two (TT), where I am hoping to finish with at least 
>>> an hour of time to spare.  I've only completed the TT with under 30 minutes 
>>> to spare and am trying to pick up the pace for "fun", why not?
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Jason Fuller]

I like the Wandrer goals especially because it forces one to explore their 
surroundings thoroughly. I haven't set a goal specific to this, but I 
should consider it. It's probably my top pick for things that are magical 
about riding a bike.  It's my kind of competitive. 

The only goal I've explicitly set for myself is to bike-commute at least 
once every week for the year, excluding vacation weeks. I only need to go 
in twice a week, otherwise i'm wfh. It's about an hour's ride each way; not 
too long but long enough it takes a bit of commitment.  I typically end up 
in the 6000 - 7500 km range for the year. 

Another, less explicit goal is to get out for at least a few overnighter 
campouts on the bike. Three to six nights is reasonable. We have two dogs, 
one of which is quite reactive and a stress-ball, so we can't get 
dog-sitters nor take him with; this means I have to leave my partner to 
take care of both dogs (which need to be walked separately) so being away 
is a bit of an ask; hence the modest goal here. It's a balance. 

On Friday 12 January 2024 at 18:32:41 UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> My goals for 2024 are to enjoy every ride I take and to break for coffee 
> outdoors on any ride over one hour in duration. We'll see if I can achieve 
> them. 
>
> Steve in Asheville
>
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 8:19:54 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I'm planning on completing a 200k, 300k and 400k randonee in preparation 
>> for the SRCC Terrible Two (TT), where I am hoping to finish with at least 
>> an hour of time to spare.  I've only completed the TT with under 30 minutes 
>> to spare and am trying to pick up the pace for "fun", why not?
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Steve]

My goals for 2024 are to enjoy every ride I take and to break for coffee 
outdoors on any ride over one hour in duration. We'll see if I can achieve 
them. 

Steve in Asheville


On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 8:19:54 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote:

> I'm planning on completing a 200k, 300k and 400k randonee in preparation 
> for the SRCC Terrible Two (TT), where I am hoping to finish with at least 
> an hour of time to spare.  I've only completed the TT with under 30 minutes 
> to spare and am trying to pick up the pace for "fun", why not?
>
> Toshi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I'm planning on completing a 200k, 300k and 400k randonee in preparation
for the SRCC Terrible Two (TT), where I am hoping to finish with at least
an hour of time to spare.  I've only completed the TT with under 30 minutes
to spare and am trying to pick up the pace for "fun", why not?

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

My #1 2024 S.M.A.R.T. Goal is to ride 4x per week... more specifically, one 
ride per week on each of my 4 current bikes.  I hadn't ridden since 
Thanksgiving until this week but I just completed my fourth mid-day 30+ 
minute local ride of the week across 3 of my bikes so this week is a yes 
for 4 rides but a no for all 4 bikes.  I kind of started this idea back in 
late summer/early fall 2023 and despite increasing my ride frequency I 
still failed at successfully completing a single 4 ride/4bike week. I think 
I got some weeks with 4 or more rides but without rotating through all four 
bikes.  I didn't really intend to keep record last year so kind of failed 
at the measurement part but thinking I'll try to actually keep track this 
year and see the results.

Brian

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 3:41:55 PM UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> Hi Toshi, 
>
> Riding in Utah is indeed a gift. I mostly trade the bike for nordic skiing 
> in the winter, so I haven't ridden outside much of late, but riding up the 
> canyons never gets old. 
>
> Our club is so small as to manage only a handful of rides each year, 
> though in the warmer months I can piece together a nice 300k out my front 
> door (downtown Salt Lake--Emigration Canyon--Big Mountain Pass--Mountain 
> Green--Trapper's Loop Road (past Snowbasin)--North Ogden Divide--Antelope 
> Island out to Fielding Garr Ranch--back to SLC). I've thought about doing 
> that as a 300+200 or whatever if I can't manage the club 600k this year, 
> but I've finally got everything on the calendar in a way that works with 
> the rest of our family obligations, so fingers crossed. 
>
> Happy riding, 
>
> Brady
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 1:31:56 PM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> Hey Brady,
>>
>> You live in a beautiful area!  I've only been there in the winter to the 
>> ski resorts but imagine that it is amazing cycling there.  
>>
>> I don't know if your local club has 300k + 300k or something like that, 
>> then you could practice the sleep thing.  The way I approached the 600k is 
>> to ride 400k + 200k, so my practice was getting the 400k to a reasonable 
>> time where I could grab a few hours before starting the 200k after rest.  
>> I've done a few 600k events, but never a 1200k.  It won't be this year, but 
>> I'm targeting the next Gold Rush Randonee in a couple of years.
>>
>> Have fun,
>> Toshi in Oakland
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:34 AM Brady Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> As an educator, I'm also a fan of S.M.A.R.T goals, probably more so than 
>>> my middle schoolers, though. 
>>>
>>> In 2023 I managed to ride 200k, 300k, and 400k brevets. For 2024, I'm 
>>> planning on adding the 600k, in part because I've always wanted to do the 
>>> whole series, in part because I scored an entry for for LEL 2025, and I 
>>> need some practice riding, sleeping, then riding again. 
>>>
>>> I'd also like to commit to more mountain biking and finally make it up 
>>> Little Cottonwood Canyon on the road bike, a feat I've never attempted due 
>>> to its fearsome reputation and it being just a bit farther away from home 
>>> than it's less fearsome sibling. 
>>>
>>> Brady in SLC
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Brady Smith]

Hi Toshi, 

Riding in Utah is indeed a gift. I mostly trade the bike for nordic skiing 
in the winter, so I haven't ridden outside much of late, but riding up the 
canyons never gets old. 

Our club is so small as to manage only a handful of rides each year, though 
in the warmer months I can piece together a nice 300k out my front door 
(downtown Salt Lake--Emigration Canyon--Big Mountain Pass--Mountain 
Green--Trapper's Loop Road (past Snowbasin)--North Ogden Divide--Antelope 
Island out to Fielding Garr Ranch--back to SLC). I've thought about doing 
that as a 300+200 or whatever if I can't manage the club 600k this year, 
but I've finally got everything on the calendar in a way that works with 
the rest of our family obligations, so fingers crossed. 

Happy riding, 

Brady
On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 1:31:56 PM UTC-7 ttoshi wrote:

> Hey Brady,
>
> You live in a beautiful area!  I've only been there in the winter to the 
> ski resorts but imagine that it is amazing cycling there.  
>
> I don't know if your local club has 300k + 300k or something like that, 
> then you could practice the sleep thing.  The way I approached the 600k is 
> to ride 400k + 200k, so my practice was getting the 400k to a reasonable 
> time where I could grab a few hours before starting the 200k after rest.  
> I've done a few 600k events, but never a 1200k.  It won't be this year, but 
> I'm targeting the next Gold Rush Randonee in a couple of years.
>
> Have fun,
> Toshi in Oakland
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:34 AM Brady Smith  wrote:
>
>> As an educator, I'm also a fan of S.M.A.R.T goals, probably more so than 
>> my middle schoolers, though. 
>>
>> In 2023 I managed to ride 200k, 300k, and 400k brevets. For 2024, I'm 
>> planning on adding the 600k, in part because I've always wanted to do the 
>> whole series, in part because I scored an entry for for LEL 2025, and I 
>> need some practice riding, sleeping, then riding again. 
>>
>> I'd also like to commit to more mountain biking and finally make it up 
>> Little Cottonwood Canyon on the road bike, a feat I've never attempted due 
>> to its fearsome reputation and it being just a bit farther away from home 
>> than it's less fearsome sibling. 
>>
>> Brady in SLC
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Toshi Takeuchi]

Hey Brady,

You live in a beautiful area!  I've only been there in the winter to the
ski resorts but imagine that it is amazing cycling there.

I don't know if your local club has 300k + 300k or something like that,
then you could practice the sleep thing.  The way I approached the 600k is
to ride 400k + 200k, so my practice was getting the 400k to a reasonable
time where I could grab a few hours before starting the 200k after rest.
I've done a few 600k events, but never a 1200k.  It won't be this year, but
I'm targeting the next Gold Rush Randonee in a couple of years.

Have fun,
Toshi in Oakland

On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 10:34 AM Brady Smith  wrote:

> As an educator, I'm also a fan of S.M.A.R.T goals, probably more so than
> my middle schoolers, though.
>
> In 2023 I managed to ride 200k, 300k, and 400k brevets. For 2024, I'm
> planning on adding the 600k, in part because I've always wanted to do the
> whole series, in part because I scored an entry for for LEL 2025, and I
> need some practice riding, sleeping, then riding again.
>
> I'd also like to commit to more mountain biking and finally make it up
> Little Cottonwood Canyon on the road bike, a feat I've never attempted due
> to its fearsome reputation and it being just a bit farther away from home
> than it's less fearsome sibling.
>
> Brady in SLC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Goals for 2024 (will they be S.M.A.R.T. ?)

[Brady Smith]

As an educator, I'm also a fan of S.M.A.R.T goals, probably more so than my 
middle schoolers, though. 

In 2023 I managed to ride 200k, 300k, and 400k brevets. For 2024, I'm 
planning on adding the 600k, in part because I've always wanted to do the 
whole series, in part because I scored an entry for for LEL 2025, and I 
need some practice riding, sleeping, then riding again. 

I'd also like to commit to more mountain biking and finally make it up 
Little Cottonwood Canyon on the road bike, a feat I've never attempted due 
to its fearsome reputation and it being just a bit farther away from home 
than it's less fearsome sibling. 

Brady in SLC
On Friday, January 5, 2024 at 7:48:14 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Often we do a goals thread, and there seems to me that there's a schism on 
> how to approach goals.  Some folks have very specific goals: i.e. "average 
> 10 miles a day over the year".  Others enjoy eschewing the specificity: 
> i.e. "have more fun on the bike".
>
> I'm a devotee of S.M.A.R.T. goals, which are (S)simple, (M)easurable, 
> (A)chievable, (R)relevant, (T)imply.  The notion of the S.M.A.R.T. goal has 
> improved my life in several ways and maybe in a way has saved my life. I'm 
> a compulsive person and I'm a numbers guy. I'm going to be compulsive about 
> *something 
> , *so if that something can be achievable and healthy, then that's a good 
> thing.  I've gotten into the habit of setting up tons of tiny S.M.A.R.T. 
> goals, and it sets me up to have a regular pattern of taking W's.  
>
> My big picture goals for 2024 include:
>
> 10,000km ridden
> Summit Mount Diablo 5 times on 5 different bikes
> Put myself in the position to attempt my first 400k brevet
> Complete the Marin Mountains 200k brevet
> Complete 25% of every city in Contra Costa County on Wandrer
> Complete 25% of Marin County on Wandrer
> Ride 55 miles on my 55th birthday and kick off riding my age on my 
> birthday as a regular event
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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