Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My reaction is not the same. The seatpost/seat-tube junction is not an uncommon problem area in bicycles. I've seen the problem enough to give any company the benefit of the doubt on it. Yes, they shouldn't see it as tolerable, and Waterford shouldn't repeatedly make a mistake, but I know Riv well enough that I'm not going to assume they think the problem is acceptable. Also, I've seen simple fixes to seatpost slipping. Maybe, even if warranted, it's not worth it to the customer to send the whole frame back for a replacement. In principle, the customer should get a flawless product. Despite the existence of that principle, it might still be in the better interest of the customer to get help with the quick fix, because often with the seatpost problem, the fix is lasting. It's worth considering as opposed to the personal labor and waiting time involved with frame replacement. So if Rivendell were helpful (as I've always found them to be) as they gave advice on how to prevent the slipping, that would not cause me to be disappointed in the company. -Jim W. On May 1, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Christopher Murray wrote: Wow!! I don't understand how this is acceptable by either Waterford or Rivendell. I would want a new bike and I don't feel like I should have to ask or insist... Rivendell should be insisting on delivering a defect free product not making half-assed solution suggestions. I have owned 4 Rivendells and I can say after hearing this I can't see buying another. I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed in Rivendell. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Thanks for posting this additional bit of information. I'm not surprised, given the reputation of RBW for supporting customers after the sale but it's good to see it verified. Having said that, if there have been multiple Hunq's with this problem, then maybe RBW needs to rethink their QC procedures. On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote: This wasn't acceptable to Rivendell. I left out this part of the story, but maybe I shouldn't have: Keven and the others at Rive were all over me to send the frame back or otherwise tell them what I needed to get this issue resolved. As readers of this forum understand, there's probably no better customer service and customer support in the world than Rivendell's. Not sending the frame back was my choice; frankly, I was having such a good time with my new Hunqapillar that the thought of waiting X number of weeks for a replacement just wasn't an attractive one. Rivendell is a great company and I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from them, and in fact am already putting a slight bit of pressure on my wife to let me buy her a Riv of her own. On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:58:27 PM UTC-4, Christopher Murray wrote: Wow!! I don't understand how this is acceptable by either Waterford or Rivendell. I would want a new bike and I don't feel like I should have to ask or insist... Rivendell should be insisting on delivering a defect free product not making half-assed solution suggestions. I have owned 4 Rivendells and I can say after hearing this I can't see buying another. I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed in Rivendell. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Riv always tries to make good on their products. Some small details can be a bit disappointing but I always forget about that stuff when I go for a ride on one of my Rivendell's. Bruce in San DIego On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: This wasn't acceptable to Rivendell. I left out this part of the story, but maybe I shouldn't have: Keven and the others at Rive were all over me to send the frame back or otherwise tell them what I needed to get this issue resolved. As readers of this forum understand, there's probably no better customer service and customer support in the world than Rivendell's. Not sending the frame back was my choice; frankly, I was having such a good time with my new Hunqapillar that the thought of waiting X number of weeks for a replacement just wasn't an attractive one. Rivendell is a great company and I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from them, and in fact am already putting a slight bit of pressure on my wife to let me buy her a Riv of her own. On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:58:27 PM UTC-4, Christopher Murray wrote: Wow!! I don't understand how this is acceptable by either Waterford or Rivendell. I would want a new bike and I don't feel like I should have to ask or insist... Rivendell should be insisting on delivering a defect free product not making half-assed solution suggestions. I have owned 4 Rivendells and I can say after hearing this I can't see buying another. I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed in Rivendell. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZmyJUmPGiWs/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
This wasn't acceptable to Rivendell. I left out this part of the story, but maybe I shouldn't have: Keven and the others at Rive were all over me to send the frame back or otherwise tell them what I needed to get this issue resolved. As readers of this forum understand, there's probably no better customer service and customer support in the world than Rivendell's. Not sending the frame back was my choice; frankly, I was having such a good time with my new Hunqapillar that the thought of waiting X number of weeks for a replacement just wasn't an attractive one. Rivendell is a great company and I wouldn't hesitate to buy anything from them, and in fact am already putting a slight bit of pressure on my wife to let me buy her a Riv of her own. On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:58:27 PM UTC-4, Christopher Murray wrote: Wow!! I don't understand how this is acceptable by either Waterford or Rivendell. I would want a new bike and I don't feel like I should have to ask or insist... Rivendell should be insisting on delivering a defect free product not making half-assed solution suggestions. I have owned 4 Rivendells and I can say after hearing this I can't see buying another. I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed in Rivendell. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Thanks for the additional info. That sound much more like the Rivendell I know. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Ron, On the old Rovers to which I'm referring, the steel chassis we're painted, and the steel body cappings were galvanized; the zinc coating was much closer to aluminum and wouldn't suffer galvanic corrosion. But on locations where a non-galvanized steel bracket was riveted to the aluminum body tub, there is usually massive amounts of corrosion of the aluminum. I've replaced many aluminum Rover body panels due to the amount of corrosion present. I wasn't calling you out in reference to what's happening in bikes; only countering the statement that aluminum/steel galvanic corrosion is a myth: it's not a myth, it's fact. Aluminum is often used as an anode to protect steel. Thinking about it further, another significant difference between a what happens in a Rover and a bicycle is that there are currents present in a vehicle, w/ the engine/battery, starter/alternator, lighting/wiring, ground connections, etc... On a bicycle (well, unlit bicycles), there shouldn't be any electrical currents present, at least not in a considerable amount. I think that's why aluminum against painted steel on a bike doesn't have a problem, the way Rovers can. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Wow!! I don't understand how this is acceptable by either Waterford or Rivendell. I would want a new bike and I don't feel like I should have to ask or insist... Rivendell should be insisting on delivering a defect free product not making half-assed solution suggestions. I have owned 4 Rivendells and I can say after hearing this I can't see buying another. I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed in Rivendell. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Maybe it was locally concentrated ferric chloride from corrosion of the steel in salt, but there is insufficient galvanic difference between steel and aluminum to cause galvanic corrosion. Leslie, this is my profession and what pays for my bicycles. On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 9:21:17 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 10:46:21 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: again, the galvanic difference between aluminum and steel is insufficient to promote galvanic corrosion - the occurrence is a bike shop myth. You don't need a barrier between the two metals, but a barrier between the metal surface and condensation. Stop! That's not rightI've been through PLENTY of old Land Rovers, where the aluminum is eaten away where it contacts the steel it is not a myth, it's real chemistry at work. Now, I will concede, it may not a big deal for bicycles; most of mine I keep in good enough shape, that I've not had any problems w/ such, but, the science is legit that galvanic corrosion between aluminum and steel does occur -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 10:46:21 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: again, the galvanic difference between aluminum and steel is insufficient to promote galvanic corrosion - the occurrence is a bike shop myth. You don't need a barrier between the two metals, but a barrier between the metal surface and condensation. Stop! That's not rightI've been through PLENTY of old Land Rovers, where the aluminum is eaten away where it contacts the steel it is not a myth, it's real chemistry at work. Now, I will concede, it may not a big deal for bicycles; most of mine I keep in good enough shape, that I've not had any problems w/ such, but, the science is legit that galvanic corrosion between aluminum and steel does occur -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Hi Keith. Thanks again for the excellent work, and I'm still amazed by the coincidence that you also are a Hunqapillar owner. I just passed the hundred mile mark on the Hunq this morning, and the seatpost remains firmly in place. The dirtiest experience was also this morning - the CO canal was its usual post-rain mess of clay, mud, ruts and puddles; bike came through like a trooper, but it'll be due for a bath tonight. On Friday, May 1, 2015 at 2:08:00 PM UTC-4, Keith Muller wrote: Kevin, I'm glad to hear that what I did to your Hunq seemed to fix the problem. Let me know if you have any other issues. Did you find a replacement bolt and nut for the seat cluster. Hopefully you've had a chance to get your new bike dirty! Best, Keith On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 10:17:04 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Kevin, I'm glad to hear that what I did to your Hunq seemed to fix the problem. Let me know if you have any other issues. Did you find a replacement bolt and nut for the seat cluster. Hopefully you've had a chance to get your new bike dirty! Best, Keith On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 10:17:04 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Ron, On the old Rovers to which I'm referring, the steel chassis we're painted, and the steel body cappings were galvanized; the zinc coating was much closer to aluminum and wouldn't suffer galvanic corrosion. But on locations where a non-galvanized steel bracket was riveted to the aluminum body tub, there is usually massive amounts of corrosion of the aluminum. I've replaced many aluminum Rover body panels due to the amount of corrosion present. I wasn't calling you out in reference to what's happening in bikes; only countering the statement that aluminum/steel galvanic corrosion is a myth: it's not a myth, it's fact. Thinking about it further, another significant difference between a what happens in a Rover and a bicycle is that there are currents present in a vehicle, w/ the engine/battery, starter/alternator, lighting/wiring, ground connections, etc... On a bicycle (well, unlit bicycles), there shouldn't be any electrical currents present, at least not in a considerable amount. I think that's why aluminum against painted steel on a bike doesn't have a problem, the way Rovers can. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I found out by sheer accident that Frame Saver in the seat tube in contact with the seatpost make it very difficult to move ! I have Salsa Shaft(matte finish black) on the Bombadil and it is really long , so long that it came in contact with the Frame Saver I had applied in the ST . I could barely get in . I immediately checked the post to make sure it really was 27.2 , and it was . The seat tube is 27.2 for sure, as I had a Campy seatpost in it prior. I squirted some Boeshield on a rag and rubbed it around the top part of the tube to diminish to stickiness of the Frame Save and now I can at least move the post a bit easier . So Frame Saver may work for someone looking for a anti friction kind of solution while still preserving and protecting the steel . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My Sam's post did the same thing. I used a snap punch to create a grid of punches about a centimeter wide in the area of the clamp. Punches were about 2-3 mm apart. After a bit of sanding with some fine sandpaper the fit got just about perfect. I wound up with some of the scratching exposed, not real attractive but functional. I spent about an hour on this. Post hasn't slipped since. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Matt B. matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:08:37 AM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote: For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt Definitely with you on that, you don't want to encourage seizing between the aluminum and steel.Grease works for this but I've also used anti-seize compound sometimes, which I think is less prone to slippage. In any case, sounds like the OP is all set now that the cable hanger has been ID'ed as the culprit. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:08:37 AM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote: For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt Definitely with you on that, you don't want to encourage seizing between the aluminum and steel.Grease works for this but I've also used anti-seize compound sometimes, which I think is less prone to slippage. In any case, sounds like the OP is all set now that the cable hanger has been ID'ed as the culprit. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. Dear Eric, Interesting. I've not messed with Gunnars, but I've built up/owned eight waterford-built products since 1998 (a Heron, two lugged road bikes, four TIG-welded Boulder Bicycle prototypes, and one production TIG welded Allroad (on the stand right now). I've never had a slipping seatpost. Their paint has gotten better. My Waterfords chipped badly and with little provocation. My road-going Boulder Bicycle has done well (other than the chip at the top tube dent, but that had a metal beam dropped on it--not its fault). My Allroad is pretty chipped up, but it lives a hard life. The 1998 Heron, finished by waterford, has tough paint. Their frames have been straight on the frame table and have ridden fine. Two of the prototypes had oddities in the braze-ons (one had a visually crooked cantilever post, which would have been a rebuild in a production bike), another had an off-axis set of downtube bottle bosses, and I know they added a fork crown restraint to their fork fixtures practice back in 2001, when they had a run of properly-aligned forks (i.e. the wheel sat right wrt the frame) with with twisted crown orientation (plays hell with caliper brake adjustment). I got one of the special forks from that era, and complained to my dealer, who got them to tighten up their spec. there. Best Regards, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 6:46:33 PM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote: My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still looks great after six years) On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
No offense, Matt outdoor weathering neglect is the only thing that will fuse a seatpost and seat tube by corrosion. Galvanic corrosion between aluminum and steel is a myth, and in fact, lithium in grease is great for steel in resisting corrosion, but Bad for aluminum. If you need something other than grease to get a grip on your seatpost, you're not going to destroy anything by doing it. Licensed professional corrosion engineer. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:37 PM UTC-5, hangtownmatt wrote: For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
“chaperone nightmare” made me laugh! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:18 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost The anti slip build paste we use takes the place of grease and creates a barrier between the metals. For lack of better explanation, it's like grease with sand in it. I agree that completely bare metals dancing too close is a chaperone nightmare. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
again, the galvanic difference between aluminum and steel is insufficient to promote galvanic corrosion - the occurrence is a bike shop myth. You don't need a barrier between the two metals, but a barrier between the metal surface and condensation. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:18:17 AM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: The anti slip build paste we use takes the place of grease and creates a barrier between the metals. For lack of better explanation, it's like grease with sand in it. I agree that completely bare metals dancing too close is a chaperone nightmare. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
whatever seals out the weather solves the weathering corrosion problem On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 9:46:21 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: again, the galvanic difference between aluminum and steel is insufficient to promote galvanic corrosion - the occurrence is a bike shop myth. You don't need a barrier between the two metals, but a barrier between the metal surface and condensation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
The anti slip build paste we use takes the place of grease and creates a barrier between the metals. For lack of better explanation, it's like grease with sand in it. I agree that completely bare metals dancing too close is a chaperone nightmare. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 10:08:37 PM UTC-6, hangtownmatt wrote: For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
And the fool says in their heart, there is no Perfection. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 4:22:53 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote: On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off the seat post. The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot of hairspray on the seat post. I have a couple of bikes that have the same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other case with the second. No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;) Figure that one out . . . lol. Obviously, this is what you have in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
The used Toyo Atlantis I picked up had a supposedly Riv installed shim... Thin aluminum. It was trimmed so you didn't really notice if but I always thought it was of. Pretty sure that frame had a brazed on rear cable hanger. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
god said the path to perfection is wide, for perfection is an affront to the lord referring to themselves in the third persons. Stay pure, don't try too hard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
For as long as I can remember, grease has been applied to seat posts to prevent corrosion that WILL fuse the seat post to the seat tube. Am I the only one who thinks it is a mistake to eliminate grease from this contact point? Matt On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger. Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around the block a few times with no rear brake (and no cable hanger) to see if that makes a difference? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My favorite Steve Palinscar game! I'll play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uRX8Buu88 On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 1:22:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote: On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off the seat post. The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot of hairspray on the seat post. I have a couple of bikes that have the same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other case with the second. No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;) Figure that one out . . . lol. Obviously, this is what you have in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
On 04/27/2015 04:28 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: My favorite Steve Palinscar game! I'll play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3uRX8Buu88 Good one! Glad it's working for you. :-) My Evil Twin PalinSCar played no role in this... On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 1:22:53 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote: On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off the seat post. The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot of hairspray on the seat post. I have a couple of bikes that have the same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other case with the second. No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;) Figure that one out . . . lol. Obviously, this is what you have in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Kevin I have several thoughts on this. First and foremost, I will agree with the several responders who said you deserve to be happy and frustration-free on your new bike. Now, here's a checklist. 1. Tolerances. As others have said, you can measure the seatpost and the hole in the frame to see if they both are exactly 27.2mm. I will assume you don't have the tool to do that. That's OK, the absolute measurement is not as important as the relative measurement, and you have what you need to do that. When the bolt is loose, does the seatpost FALL down into the frame? Is it noticeably rattling inside the hole? If yes, then the seatpost is undersized or the frame is oversized. If the seatpost slides in easily, but does not FALL in, and there is little to no discernible rattle, then you are fine. 2. Interference from the brake hanger. There is a narrow slot between the ears. That slot gets pinched when you tighten the bolt. The brake hanger lives in that slot. If it prevents the ears from being pinched together, then you aren't clamping your seatpost. You are clamping your brake hanger. The test for this is first try to twist your seatpost with the bolt tight. If it is slipping down the way you describe, it should be shockingly easy to move. Assuming that is the case, take the bolt all the way out to free the hanger. Put the bolt back in and tighten it, just normal tightness. Can you still twist the saddle? If yes, move on. If no, that was your problem. Make Riv give you a new hanger that is made from thinner material. These two tests will take you about 10 minutes. Let us know what happens from that. You should not have to resort to knurling or loctite until you know what problem you are solving. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 7:17:04 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
On 04/27/2015 04:12 PM, Garth wrote: On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off the seat post. The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot of hairspray on the seat post. I have a couple of bikes that have the same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other case with the second. No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;) Figure that one out . . . lol. Obviously, this is what you have in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsWmfljeIq0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Snap! What Bill said... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Please please pretty please, check if you can tighten it with the cable hanger removed. I'm going to have nightmares if you don't check that. Regarding knurling. This is the tool that any decent shop should have: http://1mg.me/?w=300h=300filename=JS0115.jpgf=BTI If they have that tool, the job takes 30 seconds. If their standard shop rate is $12,000 per hour, then $100 is about right. :-) On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Bill et al. - The seatpost is only just barely too loose. Honestly, I think a tin can shim might be too thick to fit in there, but the difference between the post outer diameter and the tube inner diameter is enough to make the post gradually slide down the tube as I ride. So: first thing is a stop by the friendly LBS on my way home, which has some friction paste in the back for conditions just like this (also recommended by Bryan). If that doesn't work, then I may mail the post back to Riv for a good knurling (I spoke to a local machine shop, which quoted me about $100 to knurl the post; at that rate, it'd be cheaper to buy a Thomson post, instead). Yes, it's a bit irritating to have a problem like this on what seems otherwise to be a masterpiece of a bike. However, as a former parent of two teenagers, I've learned to be understanding; these things happen. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:41:25 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote: Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger. Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around the block a few times with no rear brake (and no cable hanger) to see if that makes a difference? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off the seat post. The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot of hairspray on the seat post. I have a couple of bikes that have the same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other case with the second. No, the simplest thing of all is that no problem ever existed ;) Figure that one out . . . lol. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Bill et al. - The seatpost is only just barely too loose. Honestly, I think a tin can shim might be too thick to fit in there, but the difference between the post outer diameter and the tube inner diameter is enough to make the post gradually slide down the tube as I ride. So: first thing is a stop by the friendly LBS on my way home, which has some friction paste in the back for conditions just like this (also recommended by Bryan). If that doesn't work, then I may mail the post back to Riv for a good knurling (I spoke to a local machine shop, which quoted me about $100 to knurl the post; at that rate, it'd be cheaper to buy a Thomson post, instead). Yes, it's a bit irritating to have a problem like this on what seems otherwise to be a masterpiece of a bike. However, as a former parent of two teenagers, I've learned to be understanding; these things happen. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 3:41:25 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote: Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger. Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around the block a few times with no rear brake (and no cable hanger) to see if that makes a difference? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Yes, the Surly one is the thinnest. The aluminum cheap ones are the thickest and the least reliable in part to part variation. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:42:47 PM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: Snap! What Bill said... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
On 04/27/2015 03:14 PM, Garth wrote: After reading your replies Kevin, a new seatpost would be the first and simplest thing to try. No, the first and simplest thing to try is to wipe all the grease off the seat post. The second and almost as simple thing is to spray a shot of hairspray on the seat post. I have a couple of bikes that have the same issue, cured in one case with the first method, and in the other case with the second. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I had the same problem with my Sam. I used a piece of aluminum shim stock or you could use a piece of coke can trimmed about 1 wide x the circumference of the post. .Also there are collars out there that you can put around your seat post to keep it from slipping.. Worst case scenario is to take your seat post to a machine shop and have them lightly knurl the area on the seat post that is clamped. It's frustrating I know. Hope one of these suggestions helps. Jon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My Moser was so bad about this I found an old Campy Super Record quill post and solved the problem. One possible approach you might take is use Green Loctite (609) On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:17:04 AM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just finished building my Hunqapillar over the weekend and rode it 20+ miles to work this morning. Although still too early to tell, it has my very favorite bike stamped all over it. With one possible exception: I can't get the seatpost to stop slipping down. Despite tightening the bolt to so hard that the allen hole is starting to strip, it still inches down as I ride, and we had to stop six times on the ride in this morning to raise the seat back up. Very frustrating. I had thought that maybe the brake cable hanger was interfering with the seat tube somehow, but I don't see how that can be avoided, given the shape of the hanger and the fact that it has to remain attached to the seatpost bolt. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Best to all, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still looks great after six years) On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Isn't it nice to go into a roadie or mtb thrasher shop and discover that the crew love your old bikes? I'm glad that the problem was so easily solved (and that it seems not to be a frame quality problem). There is a high end bike shop a couple of miles from my mother's house which I used to frequent, since I spent so much time with her. They sell high end carbon fiber road and off road bikes -- Cervelos and such. But when I brought my Sam Hill, various Riv customs, '58 Rene Herse, Ken Rogers, and even my '84 Citroen Acadiane by, they all loved them. No sneers at all, at all. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Problem resolved (for now). The seatpost refusing to cooperate on my commute home, I stopped at Bike Pro, a very high-end bike shop in Georgetown at the foot of Key Bridge, to see if they had any friction paste that would at least hold the post in place until I got home. Mind you, this is one of those establishments where you go to drop $10,000 on an S-Works, Project One, etc., so I wasn't expecting much of a reception with a Riv under tow. I walked my bike in the front door and there, leaning against the far wall was... ...the only other Hunqapillar living in the D.C. area . Talk in the shop stopped when I came in (the only thing missing was the sound of a scratching record) and one of the salespeople walked quickly to the back of the shop to fetch the tech, Keith, owner of the other Hunq, who also couldn't believe that a near-twin of his bike had just come into the shop. (To those not of the east coast, where Rivs are rarely seen, this was a coincidence of near astronomical proportions.) Long story short, he pulled the seatpost and confirmed that the tolerances were a bit loose, but that the chief culprit was the brake hanger, which was blocking the seat tube from tightening all the way. He dremeled about 1/16th of an inch from the tube slot, which allowed it to tighten sufficiently, applied a liberal helping of friction paste, and reset the post. It seems to have done the trick; at least, the seat stayed in place for the remainder of my 15 miles home. To find a tech who's also a Hunq owner clearly showed the hand of God (a welcome sign in these uncertain times) :) Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote: My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still looks great after six years) On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote: I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Amazing story. And now as you get the joy of the Hunqapillar without that one irritation. I predict your fun on the bike quickly makes this whole topic vanish. My theory is that that's why the slipping seatpost thing often gets a pass. Anytime I've had it, solutions came quickly, and then I quickly forgot that it worried me. But the supernatural way your solution came is eerie this time. Go back to the shop tomorrow, and you'll hear them say, Keith the mechanic. We don't have any Keith working here... Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Kevin Lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Problem resolved (for now). The seatpost refusing to cooperate on my commute home, I stopped at Bike Pro, a very high-end bike shop in Georgetown at the foot of Key Bridge, to see if they had any friction paste that would at least hold the post in place until I got home. Mind you, this is one of those establishments where you go to drop $10,000 on an S-Works, Project One, etc., so I wasn't expecting much of a reception with a Riv under tow. I walked my bike in the front door and there, leaning against the far wall was... ...the only other Hunqapillar living in the D.C. area . Talk in the shop stopped when I came in (the only thing missing was the sound of a scratching record) and one of the salespeople walked quickly to the back of the shop to fetch the tech, Keith, owner of the other Hunq, who also couldn't believe that a near-twin of his bike had just come into the shop. (To those not of the east coast, where Rivs are rarely seen, this was a coincidence of near astronomical proportions.) Long story short, he pulled the seatpost and confirmed that the tolerances were a bit loose, but that the chief culprit was the brake hanger, which was blocking the seat tube from tightening all the way. He dremeled about 1/16th of an inch from the tube slot, which allowed it to tighten sufficiently, applied a liberal helping of friction paste, and reset the post. It seems to have done the trick; at least, the seat stayed in place for the remainder of my 15 miles home. To find a tech who's also a Hunq owner clearly showed the hand of God (a welcome sign in these uncertain times) :) Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote: My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still looks great after six years) On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com wrote: I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Problem resolved (for now). The seatpost refusing to cooperate on my commute home, I stopped at Bike Pro, a very high-end bike shop in Georgetown at the foot of Key Bridge, to see if they had any friction paste that would at least hold the post in place until I got home. Mind you, this is one of those establishments where you go to drop $10,000 on an S-Works, Project One, etc., so I wasn't expecting much of a reception with a Riv under tow. I walked my bike in the front door and there, leaning against the far wall was... ...the only other Hunqapillar living in the D.C. area . Talk in the shop stopped when I came in (the only thing missing was the sound of a scratching record) and one of the salespeople walked quickly to the back of the shop to fetch the tech, Keith, owner of the other Hunq, who also couldn't believe that a near-twin of his bike had just come into the shop. (To those not of the east coast, where Rivs are rarely seen, this was a coincidence of near astronomical proportions.) Long story short, he pulled the seatpost and confirmed that the tolerances were a bit loose, but that the chief culprit was the brake hanger, which was blocking the seat tube from tightening all the way. He dremeled about 1/16th of an inch from the tube slot, which allowed it to tighten sufficiently, applied a liberal helping of friction paste, and reset the post. It seems to have done the trick; at least, the seat stayed in place for the remainder of my 15 miles home. To find a tech who's also a Hunq owner clearly showed the hand of God (a welcome sign in these uncertain times) :) Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-4, Eric Daume wrote: My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still looks great after six years) On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
My Rockhound is a touch loose as well. I have to really crank down the collar till the ears are touching. And paint is chippy. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: My Gunnars are three for three on slipping seat posts (and also 3/3 on chipping paint). I'm not overwhelmed by Waterford's quality. My Surly Cross Check's post has never slipped (and the powder cost still looks great after six years) On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:30 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I've heard quite a few comments about Gunnar's having problems with slipping seatposts. This seems like an unacceptable level of QC on Waterford's part and on Rivendell's part. If they know a percentage of a batch of Hunq's from Wisconsin are out of spec, they need to be pulling every one of those framesets and checking them and sending them back, at Waterford's expense. I know that if I scrimped and saved long enough to buy a Rivendell and it had the problems the OP's is having, I would be extremely upset. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:53:09 PM UTC-5, RonaTD wrote: It's far more likely that the frame is the problem than the seat post. Classic Waterford issue. Ask me about all the 27.4 seat posts I had to buy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Have you called someone at Riv who knows the ins and outs of these frames like Mark about this ? You may be able to file down the hanger you have very slightly to reduce it's thickness, if this is possible . I don't know which one they use and how thick it is so take this suggestion slightly. Surly also makes a cable hanger for the rear but I can't say it's any thinner . An alternative brake hanger altogether could be a Paul Funky Monkey seatpost mounted cable hanger . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I plan to call Riv as soon as they open. Given that this is a stock frame, and that I'm using a stock hanger and the seat post they recommend, I'm hoping that it's not a mechanical problem, but something I'm doing wrong. Otherwise, as I said, it's a terrific bike. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: Have you called someone at Riv who knows the ins and outs of these frames like Mark about this ? You may be able to file down the hanger you have very slightly to reduce it's thickness, if this is possible . I don't know which one they use and how thick it is so take this suggestion slightly. Surly also makes a cable hanger for the rear but I can't say it's any thinner . An alternative brake hanger altogether could be a Paul Funky Monkey seatpost mounted cable hanger . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv. He thought it might be a problem with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit sloppy with the tolerances. His suggested choices are to use a Thompson seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to Riv and they'll knurl it. Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto. Sigh. Nothing's easy. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:59:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote: I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego. Good luck, Bruce On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Yep. As Riv recommended, I installed a Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 x 250 seat post. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:31:21 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote: I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
i sort of doubt the hanger is the problem. seems like it should be clamping firmly before squeezing into the hanger. at any rate, the stock one they send is not great. the surly one is a bit longer which allows less kinking of the cable, and the loop that goes around the binder bolt is much narrower. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat tube ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego. Good luck, Bruce On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I've used blue Loctite to solve this same problem, though I hear that the green is made for it. Wipe grease off post, smear liberally, re-install, wala! This on an undersized post that sank about 1 per 5 miles despite overtightening the bolt and distorting the ears. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:18 AM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Before doing any un-reversable mods like knurling, I would seriously give this stuff a try: http://www.tacx.com/en/products/tools/carbon-assembly-compound YES, it's for carbon. NO your Rivendell will not explode if you use it. Clean the post and frame best you can to rid it of the grease. Apply this stuff, and go ride. I've had excellent luck with it and have started using it instead of grease. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu *Kinei hos eromenon. It moves as the being-loved. *Aristotle *The Love that moves the Sun and all the other stars. *Dante -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Thomson was what was slipping so bad on my Moser http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/post.jpg I would send the post back to Bryan for knurling On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:12:22 PM UTC-5, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv. He thought it might be a problem with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit sloppy with the tolerances. His suggested choices are to use a Thompson seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to Riv and they'll knurl it. Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto. Sigh. Nothing's easy. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:59:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote: I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego. Good luck, Bruce On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
Before doing any un-reversable mods like knurling, I would seriously give this stuff a try: http://www.tacx.com/en/products/tools/carbon-assembly-compound YES, it's for carbon. NO your Rivendell will not explode if you use it. Clean the post and frame best you can to rid it of the grease. Apply this stuff, and go ride. I've had excellent luck with it and have started using it instead of grease. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
agree, that looks like the first product to try On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:18:21 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: Before doing any un-reversable mods like knurling, I would seriously give this stuff a try: http://www.tacx.com/en/products/tools/carbon-assembly-compound YES, it's for carbon. NO your Rivendell will not explode if you use it. Clean the post and frame best you can to rid it of the grease. Apply this stuff, and go ride. I've had excellent luck with it and have started using it instead of grease. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/nitto$20slipping/rbw-owners-bunch/GGghYqGbNkE/FJrTPERosOYJ On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net javascript: - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
I had this issue as well w/ my Hunqapillar I bought new last year and have a thread somewhere on here on it. I ended up just replacing the seatpost binder nut, I think I tightened the previous one too much. Haven't had the issue since. But I also talked to Bryan and he mentioned bringing in the seatpost to knurl it, I still keep meaning too but haven't done it yet as the slippage stopped. On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 10:12:22 AM UTC-7, Kevin Lindsey wrote: Just off the phone with Bryan at Riv. He thought it might be a problem with the Waterford frame; apparently, the folks at Waterford get a bit sloppy with the tolerances. His suggested choices are to use a Thompson seatpost instead of the Nitto or, as Bruce suggested, send the post back to Riv and they'll knurl it. Unfortunately, the latter will take my Hunq out of circulation for 2-3 weeks; before I consider that, I'll check out the Thompson posts and see if there's a local machine shop that'll do my Nitto. Sigh. Nothing's easy. Kevin On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 12:59:18 PM UTC-4, Bruce Smitham wrote: I had the same situation with my Sam Hillborne. I called Brian at Riv and they were able to knurl the seatpost. Problem solved. You can have a machine shop do it but I struggled to find that in San Diego. Good luck, Bruce On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: I'm surprised to hear this. Put calipers on the Nitto then. On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Someone else was recently complaining about Nitto seat posts not being to spec. Better that than the seat *tube *ID -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. James Warren jimcw...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunq's Slipping Seatpost
After reading your replies Kevin, a new seatpost would be the first and simplest thing to try. If you want to measure your Nitto first to know if it's the issue , get a cheap pair of digital calipers from Amazon or Harbor Freight. Don't store them with the battery installed , it runs the battery down. I used to be all wacky about even silver posts . . lol . . . then I tried a Salsa Shaft, (2 bolt,no longer made), that was so darn easy to adjust that I dumped my beloved Campy post ! That it was black color does not bother me in the least anymore . The bead blast type finish on it makes it anything but easy like a slick silver one , it really sticks ! My point being, there is more to good parts than Nitto or Campy or any brand . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
