[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Just came back from a visit to New England which included 5 days biking in Vermont on my new to me Sam. Beautiful part of the world this time of year. The hills were a bit much for this flatlander, especially self supported, but managed to have a really good time anyway. Jay On Aug 26, 11:44 pm, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Went on my first S24O this week on my new Sam. I rode from Burlington to Jerusalem and camped in the Camel's Hump State Forest. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3RjVQ7WAEVo/TlgFrCEVRNI/BA... This is what I brought: Slickersack Trangia cookset Book to read Wiggy's sleeping bag (on top) Headlamp Coffee setup Marinated stir-fry, Eggs, bit of salami, macadamia nuts, larabar, rasberries blueberries, dark chocolate Saddlesack Hennessy Hammock Tools Pump Fleece Jacket Ibex longies Spare shirt Spare socks Opinel knife Hozan Y wrench (as this was the first time out with this Sam and these racks, thought I may need to make adjustments, and that thing rocks for making adjustments to the nitto racks) Keven's Bag Phone Wallet Camera Pencil Crossword Puzzle Some things I learned: - The Sam is just fine handling this amount of load. No sway, felt solid underneath me the whole time. (for the record, I weigh about 220 lbs, so this is a lot of total weight. i think the marathon duremes may help with the stable feel of the ride, but it's hard to say). - Riding on the curves of the Albatross bar is 4/5 as good as riding in drops for me. It got me down out of the wind, and handling was just fine. - The Sam is so much fun on descents, it's one of the most fun things I have ever done. - Leave earlier or ride shorter. I pushed it and ended up making camp in the dark, it sucked. - Side roads in Vermont can be brutal. I am fine on long ascents, but the crazy uphill stuff on Vermont dirt roads really takes it out of me. I ended up walking the bike a fair bit on these, and ended up being way more tired than I would normally be after riding this long. - I don't need so much food. I ate like half of what I brought. - The trangia cookset is awesome. My first time using it, and it was solid. Way way better than just using the little triangle windscreen thing and then cooking in something else. - I am not much for taking pictures when I am riding. I brought the camera, but didn't pull it out. I was also really feeling the pressure of trying to make good time and beat the sunset, so that was part of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Zack, You sure don't waste time getting going! Love the setup but man that rear bag looks huge! I'm interested in the food, did you actually make eggs for breakfast? Minh--who's dreaming of an S240 this weekend himself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Minh - I did indeed make eggs for breakfast. I think the bag looks right-sized - but I am 6'3 and 220 and riding a 64 cm Sam! I cracked the eggs and put them in a little nalgene bottle right before I left (eggs keep for a while. i wouldn't have done this if I was going to be in 100 degree heat all day, but everything I read led me to believe I would be fine leaving them overnight). One thing that was pretty cool was I rode past about four farms that I usually get food from in my daily life - Laplatte beef, Rockville Market Eggs, and a few Organic Valley dairies. I actually had that beef and those eggs in my bag as I rode past! Next time maybe i'll pick stuff up as I roll, could be pretty fun. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lHf2nX5ROugJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Earlier this year I did the egg breakfast on a bike-picnic. Less tedious than I thought. I wrapped the eggs in cloth and put the in a ziploc screw-top bowl. http://tinyurl.com/3gvhd9a Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3CBwBsCG-4MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
I can't remember which bag it actually is - what is the difference between the mini bar and the kevens? It looks to me like a kevens bag, so that's why I call it that. Purchased it a few years ago when it was on sale I think. The use of the bag was definitely one thing that I learned - it's nice to have an easy place to grab stuff out of the bars when riding (snacks, wallet, phone, and camera, which I will indeed take out of the bag more next time). The slickersack would benefit from a little zippy pocket on the part of the bag that faces the rider I think. As it is, the addition of that bag on the handlebars on my setup was nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mFC-66u5PRAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My first S24O
Zack, As I look forward to start doing my own S24Os and configure my setup, yours is certainly a great representation of the setup I'm considering with some variations. I already have the Platrack and Sickersack for my commute and really like it for the front. I also have a Carradice Long-flap Camper that I'd like to try in the back but that large Saddlesack is quite enticing as well. So many options, so little time to just go and get lost... René Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I can't remember which bag it actually is - what is the difference between the mini bar and the kevens? It looks to me like a kevens bag, so that's why I call it that. Purchased it a few years ago when it was on sale I think. The use of the bag was definitely one thing that I learned - it's nice to have an easy place to grab stuff out of the bars when riding (snacks, wallet, phone, and camera, which I will indeed take out of the bag more next time). The slickersack would benefit from a little zippy pocket on the part of the bag that faces the rider I think. As it is, the addition of that bag on the handlebars on my setup was nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mFC-66u5PRAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Again with the SaddleSack Large! You are killing me, man! :) It doesn't help that I used to have a tweed Mini-Bar bag too (yours looks like the Mini-Bar in the photo... is it actually a Keven's?)... but I confess I don't miss it as much as I do that SaddleSack Large. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean who wishes for small-ish front (separate) TourSack-ish panniers... no mounting clips/brackets/hangers, just straps and a dowel! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1ZqplHcN2fkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O
Zach, Great Bike and Congrats on your first S240. They become easier and easier each time you do one. Congrats Dustin G Walnut Creek Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vKQtWg_9owcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My First S24O
Rob, Looks like a great trip, but how does one get to the secret gravel path? Russ On Aug 30, 12:39 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: This past weekend I finally got a chance to try a S24O. What a great idea! It was a gorgeous weekend in the Seattle area. I rode out to Vashon Island from our house in the Mt. Baker neighborhood--one way about 22 miles plus a nice ferry ride. Not epic by any means, but perfect for my first time bike camping. I rode my 650B Saluki. The draw was the Vintage Motorcycle Enthusiasts Isle of Vashon TT, a vintage motorcycle rally I have attended for many years on various motorcycles. I sold my last bike a couple months ago (http://bigbirdcage.blogspot.com/2010/05/selling-my-motorcycle.html ) but didn't want to let not having a motorcycle get in the way of hanging out with old friends. For the last six years we've camped at the Eagles Club, which always proves to be interesting. A nice big grassy lawn for tents, very cheap drinks in the evening and a big ol' breakfast buffet in the morning. Nothin' like camping at the bar;) Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/sets/72157624837312162/with/... A few things worked really well: • I switched out my 8-speed 12-28 cassette and DA 7800-series rear derailleur for a Harris Cyclery custom 13-34 cassette and an XTR RD, along with a new SRAM chain. I was really glad I did! I was able to shift into the 26T chainring and 34T sprocket and slowly toodle on up the ~300' elevation gain from the ferry. The XTR RD shifts as well as the DA. Took a little getting used to the low-normal, since it reversed the function on the levers on the ErgoPower brifters. This particular Harris custom cassette number CS837 (http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#8 ) has the following sprockets: 13-15-17-19-21-23-26-34. There's a big jump between the 26T and the 34T, and that is the only problematic gear change. It does eventually jump up there though. I may try fiddling with the barrel adjusters, see if that makes any difference. • With the rains fast approaching, I decided to switch tires, from my beloved Pari-Motos to the Schwalbe Marathons I bought from Franklyn. I put in a set of Schwalbe tubes while I was at it. While they don't feel as nice as the Pari-Motos, I really appreciate the extra confidence of knowing I'm unlikely to flat. This ride went through a fair amount of industrial area with bad pavement, and not having to worry as much about glass in the road was super nice. • I'm liking the Trail Designs Caldera Ti-Tri stove. The whole thing is super light and compact, and burns alcohol or wood. Nicest thing about alcohol is it's so quiet! A couple things I'll change when I can: • The medium Wald basket is a touch small...though I wouldn't necessarily want to carry a heavier load up front. I'm saving up for a PlatRack, which I can take off more easily when it's not necessary. I haven't found the basket as universally useful as I thought it would be. • My yellow Ortleib Backroller Classic panniers worked totally fine, but were a bit of a pain to get in an out of, and clash with the butterscotch of the Saluki. (Oh NO! ;)) I didn't have a handlebar bag, and I was using my Panasonic GF-1, which doesn't quite fit in a jersey pocket. Maybe I'll try Grant's strap technique. Eventually I'd like to invest in a SaddleSack Large. • Definitely would like a lighter shelter. Looking at either making a RayWay tarp and bug net, or a hammock. I like the Warbonnet Blackbird hammock. Between cutting down the weight of luggage + rack, and a lighter shelter I could probably take ~7 lbs off the setup. Which would probably be made up in food, if I was camping somewhere besides the lawn outside a bar:) Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: My First S24O: Vashon Island
Thanks for looking William! Next S24O I hope will be with kids! On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:55 AM, wrharper wrote: Rob, Looks like a great trip, but how does one get to the secret gravel path? Russ Hey Russ, Coming from the north along Beach Drive SW you get to what is signed as a dead end, but continue down what looks like an alley, and you get to this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4939824319/in/set-72157624837312162/ Very nice! Coming from the south--say from the ferry--you just turn left at the first parking lot for Lincoln Park, and go down the steep hill to the water. You'll pass by picnic shelters, then Colman Pool. The gravel path is beyond Colman Pool. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My First S24O
Excellent work. Clearly the first of many. Thanks for sharing the shots! On Aug 30, 12:39 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: This past weekend I finally got a chance to try a S24O. What a great idea! It was a gorgeous weekend in the Seattle area. I rode out to Vashon Island from our house in the Mt. Baker neighborhood--one way about 22 miles plus a nice ferry ride. Not epic by any means, but perfect for my first time bike camping. I rode my 650B Saluki. The draw was the Vintage Motorcycle Enthusiasts Isle of Vashon TT, a vintage motorcycle rally I have attended for many years on various motorcycles. I sold my last bike a couple months ago (http://bigbirdcage.blogspot.com/2010/05/selling-my-motorcycle.html ) but didn't want to let not having a motorcycle get in the way of hanging out with old friends. For the last six years we've camped at the Eagles Club, which always proves to be interesting. A nice big grassy lawn for tents, very cheap drinks in the evening and a big ol' breakfast buffet in the morning. Nothin' like camping at the bar;) Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/sets/72157624837312162/with/... A few things worked really well: • I switched out my 8-speed 12-28 cassette and DA 7800-series rear derailleur for a Harris Cyclery custom 13-34 cassette and an XTR RD, along with a new SRAM chain. I was really glad I did! I was able to shift into the 26T chainring and 34T sprocket and slowly toodle on up the ~300' elevation gain from the ferry. The XTR RD shifts as well as the DA. Took a little getting used to the low-normal, since it reversed the function on the levers on the ErgoPower brifters. This particular Harris custom cassette number CS837 (http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/k7.html#8 ) has the following sprockets: 13-15-17-19-21-23-26-34. There's a big jump between the 26T and the 34T, and that is the only problematic gear change. It does eventually jump up there though. I may try fiddling with the barrel adjusters, see if that makes any difference. • With the rains fast approaching, I decided to switch tires, from my beloved Pari-Motos to the Schwalbe Marathons I bought from Franklyn. I put in a set of Schwalbe tubes while I was at it. While they don't feel as nice as the Pari-Motos, I really appreciate the extra confidence of knowing I'm unlikely to flat. This ride went through a fair amount of industrial area with bad pavement, and not having to worry as much about glass in the road was super nice. • I'm liking the Trail Designs Caldera Ti-Tri stove. The whole thing is super light and compact, and burns alcohol or wood. Nicest thing about alcohol is it's so quiet! A couple things I'll change when I can: • The medium Wald basket is a touch small...though I wouldn't necessarily want to carry a heavier load up front. I'm saving up for a PlatRack, which I can take off more easily when it's not necessary. I haven't found the basket as universally useful as I thought it would be. • My yellow Ortleib Backroller Classic panniers worked totally fine, but were a bit of a pain to get in an out of, and clash with the butterscotch of the Saluki. (Oh NO! ;)) I didn't have a handlebar bag, and I was using my Panasonic GF-1, which doesn't quite fit in a jersey pocket. Maybe I'll try Grant's strap technique. Eventually I'd like to invest in a SaddleSack Large. • Definitely would like a lighter shelter. Looking at either making a RayWay tarp and bug net, or a hammock. I like the Warbonnet Blackbird hammock. Between cutting down the weight of luggage + rack, and a lighter shelter I could probably take ~7 lbs off the setup. Which would probably be made up in food, if I was camping somewhere besides the lawn outside a bar:) Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first S24O - in New York City!
On Jul 30, 1:15 pm, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: Just found out that I'm going camping in Central Park next weekend. There's a lottery with the Parks Department, and we are one of thirty families that got in. The supply the tents and food; we supply everything else, which means the sleeping bags and pads are going on my bike. Time to get a basket! what a great idea - should be a very unique camping experience! given the food options around central park, however, I might opt for some take-out :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
