Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-12 Thread Paul G
I should say that one person's opinion of what constitutes acceptable safe 
fender clearance may differ from another. In any case, fitting Jack Browns 
under the SKS P45s on my Roadeo takes careful installation to max out the 
available clearance. It is a tight fit. Perhaps tighter than some may be 
comfortable with. Nevertheless, Rivendell marketed the Roadeo as being able 
to do so and sold them like that. And I have never had any issues with my 
installation other than an occasional leaf getting caught and making a 
racket against the spinning tire. I am careful about running over sticks, 
etc. as any rider with fenders ought to be.

On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 at 12:26:55 AM UTC-7, Paul Y wrote:
>
> Very interesting to know that Jack Brown's will fit under SKS P45s! 
>
> My Compass 32mm Stampede Pass tires seem tight under my SKS P45s (albeit 
> they are 13 years old, dimensions may have been updated since)
>
> Nonetheless I have been wanting to buy a pair of JBs for fenderless days 
> and am now inclined to try the combination. Thanks for posting that!
>
>
> On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:54:50 AM UTC+8, Paul G wrote:
>>
>> The bar is a 44cm Nitto 177 Noodle on an 8cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe.
>>
>> Crank set is a 46x30 Velo Orange Grand Cru 175mm.
>>
>> Pedals are Shimano 105 5700 era.
>>
>> I originally had SKS Longboards on but the front one broke so I replaced 
>> the front with a Chromoplastics version of the P45 with a PB mudflap 
>> attached to it that I had lying around. I chose SKS due to the ease of 
>> installation, they allow me to fit Jack Browns, and I can put the bike in 
>> my car (front wheel on) without ruining the front fender. I do agree that 
>> the metal fenders mentioned have better coverage and look classier...and if 
>> anybody has safely fit Jack Browns under them on their Roadeo, I'd be 
>> interested in your installation tips and tweaks.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-12 Thread Paul Y
Very interesting to know that Jack Brown's will fit under SKS P45s! 

My Compass 32mm Stampede Pass tires seem tight under my SKS P45s (albeit 
they are 13 years old, dimensions may have been updated since)

Nonetheless I have been wanting to buy a pair of JBs for fenderless days 
and am now inclined to try the combination. Thanks for posting that!


On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:54:50 AM UTC+8, Paul G wrote:
>
> The bar is a 44cm Nitto 177 Noodle on an 8cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe.
>
> Crank set is a 46x30 Velo Orange Grand Cru 175mm.
>
> Pedals are Shimano 105 5700 era.
>
> I originally had SKS Longboards on but the front one broke so I replaced 
> the front with a Chromoplastics version of the P45 with a PB mudflap 
> attached to it that I had lying around. I chose SKS due to the ease of 
> installation, they allow me to fit Jack Browns, and I can put the bike in 
> my car (front wheel on) without ruining the front fender. I do agree that 
> the metal fenders mentioned have better coverage and look classier...and if 
> anybody has safely fit Jack Browns under them on their Roadeo, I'd be 
> interested in your installation tips and tweaks.
>
> -Paul
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-11 Thread Max S
Just a side note / PSA for forks with steerers threaded down low — which prob 
does not to be said for this group, but still — just make sure the quill stem 
expander bolt sits fully below where the threads begin on the steerer, 
regardless of whether the “maximum height” marker gets buried below the top 
locknut on the headset. 

- Max “over abundance of caution” in A2 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-11 Thread Paul G
I forgot to mention that there are 20mm of spacers total.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-11 Thread Paul G
Austin,

I forgot to mention that there are 20mm of headset spacers total. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-11 Thread Paul G
Austin, when my frameset arrived from Waterford to Rivendell, the fork steerer 
was cut to length after Mark at Rivendell called me and asked how tall the 
stack of spacers ought to be. I sensed there was latitude depending on my 
desired bar height and future height potential. I decided to use the same 
height as the test Roadeo I had ridden prior to ordering. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-11 Thread Austin B.
Some nice looking bikes on this thread! The White/Blue like John's seems to 
be a rarity--but it's such a nice combination.

@Paul G: I'm also running the 46x30 VO crankset. I love that 46x30 gearing! 
It's currently paired with a lightweight Ultegra 11-28 cassette but I also 
have an 11-34 if I expect to do some significant climbing.

Also, do I see 15mm of spacers on that headset? Did you replace the fork or 
did it come from RBW like that? Mine only has 10mm of spacers.

Unfortunately, I can't help with fendering the Roadeo. I only put fenders 
on my Black Mountain Monstercross which has loads of clearance over my 38 
Barlow Pass's.

Austin in MD

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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-11 Thread DHans
Max,
That's a classy looking Roadeo, and the jersey is excellent.
Doug

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 5:54:51 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Great bike, great color.  I never pass up a chance to post a picture of my 
> Roadeo - in same colors! Not set up for brevets, but pretty well travelled:
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2h8QWXZ
>
> Max B
> Santa Rosa CA
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-10 Thread Paul G
The bar is a 44cm Nitto 177 Noodle on an 8cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe.

Crank set is a 46x30 Velo Orange Grand Cru 175mm.

Pedals are Shimano 105 5700 era.

I originally had SKS Longboards on but the front one broke so I replaced the 
front with a Chromoplastics version of the P45 with a PB mudflap attached to it 
that I had lying around. I chose SKS due to the ease of installation, they 
allow me to fit Jack Browns, and I can put the bike in my car (front wheel on) 
without ruining the front fender. I do agree that the metal fenders mentioned 
have better coverage and look classier...and if anybody has safely fit Jack 
Browns under them on their Roadeo, I'd be interested in your installation tips 
and tweaks.

-Paul

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Lovely! The setup almost exactly panders to my own prejudices.

What bar -- make and model, width? And what is the stem -- make and model,
and reach?

Pro 5 Vis double? What teeth on the rings?

What are those pedals?

Iris cage: I approve.

Curious: Why SKS fenders instead of Honjos or discount but still very nice
Velo Oranges? Aluminum fenders IME are lighter, less flexible, give more
coverage, look better, and resist damage sufficiently to make it worthwhile
to consider them. Your Roadeo would truly shine with even the relatively
thrifty VO aluminum fenders.

I say this as someone who has used umpteen sets of SKS and PB and Bluemels
and Avocet plastic fenders, as well as many Honjos, VOs, and Berthouds --
and Kelpies!

That said, for fenders that resist abuse and damage, regardless of coverage
or aesthetics or sun warping, SKS's and PBs rule the roost.

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:34 PM Paul G  wrote:

> Here's mine, but without the rear Saddlesack Medium attached. I had taken
> it off for this particular ride.
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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-03 Thread reynoldslugs
In response to an off-list query, the seat bag is a Brooks Isle of Wight.

Max

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 2:54:51 PM UTC-7, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Great bike, great color.  I never pass up a chance to post a picture of my 
> Roadeo - in same colors! Not set up for brevets, but pretty well travelled:
>
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2h8QWXZ
>
> Max B
> Santa Rosa CA
>
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>
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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-03 Thread Paul Y
Lovely! What bag is that? 

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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

2020-05-02 Thread reynoldslugs
Great bike, great color.  I never pass up a chance to post a picture of my 
Roadeo - in same colors! Not set up for brevets, but pretty well travelled:


https://flic.kr/p/2h8QWXZ

Max B
Santa Rosa CA





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