Re: [RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-09-03 Thread Fullylugged
 have found that the prices for used bicycles drop like a stone whenever I get 
ready to sell a bike. Works every time.

--Eric Norris
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You thinking of selling anything soon? :)

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-09-02 Thread Dave Redmon
I enjoyed your pictures. Looks like joyous times!

Dave in Kansas

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-09-02 Thread Mark Roland
Hi Brynnar. First I need the garage.

Yeah, the 84 Trek is one size down from the largest, but the jumps are big. 
Still perfectly doable for me, especially as a Hillibike, since I am just 
shy of 5' 11". I'm thinking of a dirt drop stem and some version of 
Albatross style bars. Cosmetically it is the most challenged. I'm not 
usually a big fan of touch up, or a repaint, but this one has many open 
scrapes that are rusticating.

The other issue, of course, is, too many bikes. While I realize that is not 
technically possible, it does become a factor. Especially with no garage. 
And plans to reacquire a Clementine. Which of course is also a refined and 
improved descendant of the vintage mountain bikes. 


On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 10:36:00 PM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Mark, 
>
> I totally agree, and I'm also tempted by the tall 80s MTBs all the time. 
> All three you got recently would be hard for me to pass up, but a tall '84 
> 830? Pretty cool. 
>
> More garage ceiling hooks. Problem solved!
>
> Brynnar
> Indy
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-09-01 Thread ctifusion
Mark, 

I totally agree, and I'm also tempted by the tall 80s MTBs all the time. All 
three you got recently would be hard for me to pass up, but a tall '84 830? 
Pretty cool. 

More garage ceiling hooks. Problem solved!

Brynnar
Indy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread MCT
Joe.  If I were close, I would buy the x-stream while it was on fire.  I sold 
two recumbents and both times to new riders trying out recumbents. 

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread Joe Bernard
I have three at the moment and my upcoming Riv Custom will be four, at which 
point I'll sell one of the others. A friend an I have been discussing this 
topic lately, and I've come around to her view that having a bunch of bikes is 
- as you say - cluttery for the brain. I think I'm done with the clutter. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread Joe Bernard
It could be worse, you could be selling a recumbent! I recently paid what I 
thought was a low/fair price for one, then decided to turn it around so I could 
buy different one. Oops! There is NO market for 2-wheelers out there, everybody 
wants a trike. I'm going to end up fire-sale-ing this thing as a partial 
donation to someone who'd like to get into 'bents for cheap. You win, you lose! 
🤷

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have found that the prices for used bicycles drop like a stone whenever I get 
ready to sell a bike. Works every time.

--Eric Norris
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@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On Aug 31, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Ed Carolipio  wrote:
> 
> Used bike sales are seasonal so that may be a factor in what you've observed. 
> I've found the best time to sell bike stuff is in early Spring as folks are 
> taking stock of their stables, thinking about what kind of riding they're 
> going to do through the fall, and reading up on the new models released by 
> the big brands. Winter is the worst time to sell, with fall a close second. 
> (There's a small spike around Thanksgiving and early December when you can 
> get lucky catching the eyeballs of some wayward Christmas shoppers.) If 
> you've got the room, probably best to stash the bike today and wait until 
> late Feb/early March to list it again. If it's slow going then, I think at 
> that point something else bigger is going on and maybe it's time to drive 
> down to the co-op.
> 
> I like the point others made about e-bikes as well, though I think the impact 
> on the used (non e-bike) market is that tinkerers would be searching for 
> models that are easy to convert it into e-bikes. If the used bike or frame 
> your selling is conducive to such a conversion - like an old school MTB or a 
> Clem L- and it's still not moving, that may also indicate something bigger is 
> going on.
> 
> --Ed C.
> 
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 7:49:54 AM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
> I've been working on selling off my older bikes and there just doesn't seem 
> to be any buyers out there.  Riv content is that these are decent steel 
> bikes, from the 80s-90s, still comfortable to ride, with new parts like 
> cables/housing/brake pads, and tuned up so all the remaining older parts work 
> smoothly and reliably.  Most recently I had an early 90s Specialized Hardrock 
> on Craigslist for a month.  When I wasn't even getting any interest calls at 
> $80 I just gave it away instead of dropping the price any further.
> 
> Is anyone else experiencing this, or have ideas about what is going on?  Is 
> the economy doing too well for people to buy inexpensive used bikes?  Is 
> there less of a market due to Jump and other bike share companies?  At this 
> point I may just donate some of the bikes to the local Bicycle Kitchen 
> instead of tuning them up to sell myself.
> 
> Curious in Sacramento,
> Eric
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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread Ed Carolipio
Used bike sales are seasonal so that may be a factor in what you've 
observed. I've found the best time to sell bike stuff is in early Spring as 
folks are taking stock of their stables, thinking about what kind of riding 
they're going to do through the fall, and reading up on the new models 
released by the big brands. Winter is the worst time to sell, with fall a 
close second. (There's a small spike around Thanksgiving and early December 
when you can get lucky catching the eyeballs of some wayward Christmas 
shoppers.) If you've got the room, probably best to stash the bike today 
and wait until late Feb/early March to list it again. If it's slow going 
then, I think at that point something else bigger is going on and maybe 
it's time to drive down to the co-op.

I like the point others made about e-bikes as well, though I think the 
impact on the used (non e-bike) market is that tinkerers would be searching 
for models that are easy to convert it into e-bikes. If the used bike or 
frame your selling is conducive to such a conversion - like an old school 
MTB or a Clem L- and it's still not moving, that may also indicate 
something bigger is going on.

--Ed C.

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 7:49:54 AM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> I've been working on selling off my older bikes and there just doesn't 
> seem to be any buyers out there.  Riv content is that these are decent 
> steel bikes, from the 80s-90s, still comfortable to ride, with new parts 
> like cables/housing/brake pads, and tuned up so all the remaining older 
> parts work smoothly and reliably.  Most recently I had an early 90s 
> Specialized Hardrock on Craigslist for a month.  When I wasn't even getting 
> any interest calls at $80 I just gave it away instead of dropping the price 
> any further.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this, or have ideas about what is going on?  
> Is the economy doing too well for people to buy inexpensive used bikes?  Is 
> there less of a market due to Jump and other bike share companies?  At this 
> point I may just donate some of the bikes to the local Bicycle Kitchen 
> instead of tuning them up to sell myself.
>
> Curious in Sacramento,
> Eric
>

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread S
I forgot about ebikes. When I go riding, I see only a very slight uptick 
in, eg, gravel bikes, but a relatively large increase in ebikes. 

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 11:59:53 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Also, ebikes. People like 'em and the depreciation is atrocious (ask me 
> how I know). First time buyers looking to test the electric waters are 
> finding unbelievable deals out there. 

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread Joe Bernard
Also, ebikes. People like 'em and the depreciation is atrocious (ask me how I 
know). First time buyers looking to test the electric waters are finding 
unbelievable deals out there. 

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[RBW] Re: Reduced market for used older bikes?

2019-08-31 Thread S
Here in the PNW, the used bike market is all over the place. I see $80 
mountain bikes and I see touring bikes with rusty parts that the owner 
won't sell for less than $500. The market for higher-end bikes such 
Rivendell, Gunnar, etc., seems fairly strong, but I wouldn't be surprised 
if that changed in the next few years. My guess is that many people these 
days want disc brakes and hence older bikes with rim brakes are falling out 
of favor. Also, cycling seems less popular in general. 

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 7:49:54 AM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> I've been working on selling off my older bikes and there just doesn't 
> seem to be any buyers out there.  Riv content is that these are decent 
> steel bikes, from the 80s-90s, still comfortable to ride, with new parts 
> like cables/housing/brake pads, and tuned up so all the remaining older 
> parts work smoothly and reliably.  Most recently I had an early 90s 
> Specialized Hardrock on Craigslist for a month.  When I wasn't even getting 
> any interest calls at $80 I just gave it away instead of dropping the price 
> any further.
>
> Is anyone else experiencing this, or have ideas about what is going on?  
> Is the economy doing too well for people to buy inexpensive used bikes?  Is 
> there less of a market due to Jump and other bike share companies?  At this 
> point I may just donate some of the bikes to the local Bicycle Kitchen 
> instead of tuning them up to sell myself.
>
> Curious in Sacramento,
> Eric
>

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