[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[Bill Lindsay]

I have Jitensha bars on my Rosco Bubbe Road.  I used it as a commute bike, 
which I often do 14 miles each way.  I've put over 1000 miles on the bike, 
most of it in that Jitensha bar configuration.  The bike is still 
configured that way but now it lives "upstairs" in Gold Country, where I 
use it for errands in town.  

I'm way too accustomed to drop bars to seriously consider doing a brevet or 
other long day with Jitensha bars.  Maybe on a bet or similar challenge.  I 
imagine it could work.

Bill Lindsay
Arnold, CA

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 3:52:35 PM UTC-8, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[S]

Great looking bike. Clean and classic. I like that green. 

I have similar bars on my single speed Trek. I like them, but I doubt they 
would be comfortable on an all day ride. I suppose a bar like the 
Albatross, which has more sweep and allows for multiple hand positions, 
would be better. 

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 3:52:35 PM UTC-8, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

I've done centuries and multi-day tours with the black sheep bars I had that 
were a similar shape (30° sweep). They were 800mm wide though so I had three 
solid hand positions.

-Tim 

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[Ron Mc]

I added hand positions to my Ahearne Map bar using a Nitto 2-70 double lamp 
bracket and a pair of mountain bar ends
Did it first just for winter mag trainer time to give me different torso 
positions.  But when I tried it on the road, loved it and wrapped it 
permanent.  

 


This is an all-day bike with more time spent in the middle of the bar than 
on the ends.  

 


Also changed the bike from a parachute into a pretty good headwind slicer.  

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[Rick Thompson]

After decades of riding various drop bars I've realized that Jitensha type 
bars with ergo grips just work better for me. The wrist angle with around 
35 degree sweep is all day comfortable, and the shaped grips put less ulnar 
pressure than holding a round tube. I first tried them on my old steel road 
bike converted to commuter: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ricks_boats/44643454201/in/dateposted-public/
That was so nice, I put almost the same on a custom Fitz rando for 
multi-day rides: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ricks_boats/47872330271/in/dateposted-public/
Drop bars are touted as having many available hand positions. My theory is 
you need to keep changing, because none of them are comfortable ;-)

Rick (flat bars forever) Thompson

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 3:52:35 PM UTC-8, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[masmojo]

I rode them for a bit on my CrossCheck prior to selling it to a bike shop 
employee who never changed them & subsequently sold the bike on to a third 
person whom I am sure hasn't changed them, when something just "works" to the 
point that changing it doesn't even occur to you; isn't that what we are all 
striving for!?

That said doubt I would want to do more than 30 or 40 miles on them.

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[tc]

David,
I would say "No" to all-day riding with the Jitensha bar.  It's not wide 
enough, nor does it have a grip area large enough to afford multiple hand 
positions, at least comfortable ones.

My recommendations for non-drop bars for hours of riding and multiple hand 
positions would be, in order:
1.  Albatross.  See this excellent video:  https://youtu.be/pGokAt6XAi0 (I 
set up my Sam with extra long cork grips and moved the brake levers up as 
he suggests ... really nice!)
2.  Wavie
3.  Ahearne+Map

If you're into more of a funky looking, but supremely comfortable and 
functional bar, then the Jones butted loop H-bar, which you can get in 
silver if that matters:  
https://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-h-bar-butted-loop-aluminum/

Tom

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 6:52:35 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[Kieran J]

I've done some longer (100k-ish) rides on the Soma Clarence bars, which 
have a similar but not identical shape to these. No issues came up for me 
at all running thick foam grips and MTB trigger shifters. For mixed terrain 
in particular, those are my preferred shape.

KJ


On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 3:52:35 PM UTC-8, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[David B]

After thinking on this a bit, I think I'm going to have two handlebar 
setups ready to go. I'm going to swap in Mafac Raids (will help with fender 
clearance too) and put on slotted cable stops. With this setup, I'll have 
two handlebar setups with brake cables installed and straddle hangers on 
the ends of the brake cables. I'll just need to remove straddle hangers 
from straddle cable on the Raids and loosen the quill bolt and everything 
should be able to come out in one piece. Shifting is minimal so going to 
stick with downtube shifters. I'm adding aluminum fenders too so might have 
to go full rinko and figure out the split rear fender operation.
Thanks for the input!
David

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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