[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-06 Thread Corwin
My bike/weight:

62cm Quickbeam

Built as follows:

Front wheel - PJW built Shimano 3N80 Dynamo laced to a Velocity Dyad
Rear wheel - Rich built Phil double sided single speed hub laced to a 
Velocity A23
Schwalbe 38mm Marathon Supremes
SKS P45 fenders
Cantilever brakes
Sugino XD cranks, 40, 32 chainrings
Cane Creek hoods
MKS track pedals
Nitto Jaguar seat post
Fizik saddle
Nitto Technomic Deluxe 11cm stem
Nitto Noodle bars
Nitto mini front rack
Nitto Platrack
Slickersack
Schmidt Edelux dynamo light
Portland Design Cygolite Hot Shot taillight
Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit lock

34.8 pounds

If we leave out the lock (as I sometimes do riding to Downtown Berkeley), 
the weight is 30.6 pounds.

We won't talk about the 50 - 60 pounds of groceries in the trailer I pull 
home several times a week.

Regards,


Corwin

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread David Spranger


Okay, here is my (surprising to me) results on my three Rivs:

63 cm AHH ~32 lbs 
with Woody's Fenders, Brooks B17 Select saddle, Nitto M12 front rack, Tubus 
Cosmo rear rack, Bosco Bullmoose bars, IRD/Silver thumb shifters, SP dynamo 
hub and Phillips lights, VO Raid rims, VO Grand Cru Touring hub on rear 
wheel, Sugino Triple crank, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 35 tires, Thin 
Gripster pedals.

62 sm SimpleOne ~26 lbs 
with VO Zepplin fenders, Brooks B17 saddle, Nitto Mini front rack, 
Carradice Bagman saddlebag support, Mustache bar, Sanyo Dyanamo with BM 
Cyo/Seculite lights, VO Raid Rims, VO Grand Cru flip/flop rear hub, VO 
Grand Cru crank with 46t ring, Schwalbe Little Big Ben tires, Thin Gripster 
pedals, Civia chainguard.

60cm Rambouillet ~26 lbs 
with VO Hammered fenders, VO Model 6 saddle, VO Randonneur front rack, 
Carradice 
Bagman saddlebag support, 48 cm Noodle bar, IRD/Silver stem shifters, 
Shimano 3N80 Dynamo hub with BM Cyo/Seculite lights, VO PBP rims, Shimano 
105 rear hub, VO Grand Cru crank with 46t/30t rings, Schwalbe Kojak tires, 
MKS Grip King pedals.

David Spranger
Charlotte, NC

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
unfortunately i don't have a scale at home, but when i picked up my 
simpleone from the bike shop once the mechanic said, it's lighter than i 
expected. ha. that seems like a win to me! although i assured him that was 
only because the medium saddesack and wald basket were empty.

-hudson in atx

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:20:41 AM UTC-5, David Spranger wrote:



 Okay, here is my (surprising to me) results on my three Rivs:

 63 cm AHH ~32 lbs 
 with Woody's Fenders, Brooks B17 Select saddle, Nitto M12 front rack, 
 Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Bosco Bullmoose bars, IRD/Silver thumb shifters, SP 
 dynamo hub and Phillips lights, VO Raid rims, VO Grand Cru Touring hub on 
 rear wheel, Sugino Triple crank, Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 35 tires, Thin 
 Gripster pedals.

 62 sm SimpleOne ~26 lbs 
 with VO Zepplin fenders, Brooks B17 saddle, Nitto Mini front rack, 
 Carradice Bagman saddlebag support, Mustache bar, Sanyo Dyanamo with BM 
 Cyo/Seculite lights, VO Raid Rims, VO Grand Cru flip/flop rear hub, VO 
 Grand Cru crank with 46t ring, Schwalbe Little Big Ben tires, Thin Gripster 
 pedals, Civia chainguard.

 60cm Rambouillet ~26 lbs 
 with VO Hammered fenders, VO Model 6 saddle, VO Randonneur front rack, 
 Carradice 
 Bagman saddlebag support, 48 cm Noodle bar, IRD/Silver stem shifters, 
 Shimano 3N80 Dynamo hub with BM Cyo/Seculite lights, VO PBP rims, Shimano 
 105 rear hub, VO Grand Cru crank with 46t/30t rings, Schwalbe Kojak tires, 
 MKS Grip King pedals.

 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Samuel Hillborne

56cm, single TT
Soba bars, Shimano brakelevers, silver barcon shifters, pearl stem, paul 
touring cantilevers
Ritchey 94/58 supercompact double (42/29), campy front der XT short cage 
rear, Riv 9sp 12-34 cassette. SRAM chain, XT SPD pedals
Matrix ceramic rims 32 hole, C-Line tires 700x38, xt hubs and skewers
Original Flite saddle, XC pro seatpost
two king cages, nitto mini front rack, brass bell

25.0lbs

Gunnar Double speed

Waterford custom Gunnar, dura ace headset
Tech DLX stem, noodle bars, tektro levers, newbaums tape
tektro bigmouth brakes, phil 32 hole bolt on hub, mavic open pro rims, 
skinny 26mm new express tires
campy mirage 110bcd cranks 35/38 rings, white Dos freewheel 16/19
marks rack, HARack, HA panniers (empty), sackville trunksack small (with 
toolkit)
Nitto s83 seatpost Avocet Ti R40 saddle
One king cage

27.0 lbs

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:40:21 AM UTC-7, Hudson Doerge wrote:

 unfortunately i don't have a scale at home, but when i picked up my 
 simpleone from the bike shop once the mechanic said, it's lighter than i 
 expected. ha. that seems like a win to me! although i assured him that was 
 only because the medium saddesack and wald basket were empty.

 -hudson in atx




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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
Clayton, that is EPIC.  Those fierce pannier flair bits are particularly 
cool.  Tell us about your frame decals?

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:59:37 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hHXOS8apfs/U-EpEAW5TbI/ADA/67rjfKUlDpA/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG

 36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front 
 and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount 
 kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and 
 Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT 
 is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

 Clayton


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hHXOS8apfs/U-EpEAW5TbI/ADA/67rjfKUlDpA/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG

36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front 
and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount 
kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and 
Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT 
is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

Clayton

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Joe Broach
63 Riv Canti-Rom
28.5 pounds with pump and lights but without toolkit and usual around town
load
more or less stock build except
nitto m12 front rack
aerohead wheelset with SON front hub and Phil freewheel rear
B17

Following Grant's rule for stating bike weights, rider weighs about 5x the
bike. I also have a Rawland Nordavinden built up about 4 pounds lighter. I
can't tell the weight difference between them, so I guess my tolerance is
at least +/- 4 pounds.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Clayton, that is EPIC.  Those fierce pannier flair bits are particularly
 cool.  Tell us about your frame decals?


 On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:59:37 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8hHXOS8apfs/U-EpEAW5TbI/ADA/67rjfKUlDpA/s1600/IMG_1930.JPG

 36.6 Lbs for my Atlantis with fenders, Nitto mini front rack, Tubus front
 and rear racks, Brooks special, USE suspension seatpost, rear mount
 kickstand and two (one medium and one small) home made frame bags, and
 Profile aero bars without the extensions. As shown? Grocery store trip (IT
 is my car)...probably 85-90 lbs. Thankfully no hills.

 Clayton

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Cecily Walker
This is just a SWAG, but

55cm Betty Foy = around 38-ish pounds, without my pannier. 

Build list: (Sorry about the formatting, I copied it directly from an excel 
spreadsheet)

  Crankset Sugino XD 600 26-36-46  Bottom Bracket Shimano  Pedals Velo 
Orange Grand Cru Sabot  Chain SRAM PC 971  Cassette / Freewheel SRAM 11-32  
   Derailleur (front) Shimano Tiagra Triple  Derailleur (rear) Shimano Deore
   Hubs Shimano Deore LX 36 hole  Spokes (front / rear) Sapim Strong 13-14G 
/ Dt Swiss Nipples  Rim (pair) VO Diagonale 650B Silver  Tubes Standard  Rim 
Tapes Schwalbe Cloth  Tire (pair) Soma New Express 650b Terra Cotta   
Seatpost Velo Orange Grand Cru  Stem Soma Sutro
 Handlebar Nitto Boscos
 Grips / Tape Ergon GP1  Headset Shimano Ultegra  Shifters IRD Thumb 
Shifters  Shifter Cables Jagwire Stainless Steel  Brake Levers Shimano BLR 
550 Silver  Brake Calipers Tektro 559 Long Reach  Brake Cables

Jagwire Stainless Steel

SKS Longboards (Cream)
Nitto  Mark's Rack

 

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread eflayer
FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with threaded bottom 
bracket. Nearly 100% perfect condition. $800 shipped. Feel the lightness of 
being.
On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, the Unbearable Lightness of Being! I want to play, too, but I've been
out of town. Will weight and list and post before this thread dies.

Patrick and if I don't, who cares?Moore


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:48 PM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote:

 FS: 2009 Specialized Roubaix Pro frameset, 61 cm, XXL, with threaded
 bottom bracket. Nearly 100% perfect condition. $800 shipped. Feel the
 lightness of being.

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread ascpgh
Hmm, I don't have a scale.

Observations from the real world on last week's group ride: I didn't have 
to ride around standing water from recent rainfall to avoid striping my 
back, didn't have to ride around gravel on the roadway in places where 
streets had been torn up but not yet repaved, I was not unnerved by uneven 
road surfaces descending and I stopped to provide aid with my full-size 
frame pump to a rider on a CF super light who had a flat to a 23c tire and 
flubbed his CO2 thingy and had no other way to air up the new tube. As we 
rode back to the tail of the group I enjoyed my second bottle of water on 
the subsequent climb, CF guy stopped at a trash can along the river path 
and discarded both the tube and the empty gas bulbs. Weighing me down. 
Yeah.

I'll weigh my Rambouillet sometime and it'll be a number. I tend to think 
of it as bringing enough bike when the peripherals draw weight 
consternation from the obsessive camp. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Marc Irwin
Those stickers are available from Cycle Chic through Cafe Press.  I 
absolutely had to have one when I saw it.  

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 5:10:57 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where did you get that sticker??? 
 Awesomeness!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:



 I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.



 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mY1_t_hJZIQ/UQNIbGcLQtI/Dts/NB1OYr5uyD8/s320/IMG_0225.JPG


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells 
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete 
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread cyclotourist
Thanks!
http://www.cafepress.com/copenhagenchic.503775045


Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those stickers are available from Cycle Chic through Cafe Press.  I
 absolutely had to have one when I saw it.


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 5:10:57 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where did you get that sticker???
 Awesomeness!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com wrote:



 I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.



 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mY1_t_hJZIQ/UQNIbGcLQtI/Dts/NB1OYr5uyD8/s320/IMG_0225.JPG


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including fenders/
 bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since dismantle-ization would be
 unfair to expect of a complete build. But no bags/bottles on board, 
 please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Bill Lindsay



Andy

I like what you had to say about utility.  I agree that a truly stripped 
down bike that is often not enough bike for the job is kind of lame.  That 
said, a stripped down bike that is just enough bike for a stripped down 
application can be cool, too.  Anyway, the only build I have that I sweated 
the weight is not a Rivendell.  It's my main brevet bike.  I list it here, 
at the risk of being too far OT, just because it's a build kit that could 
work just as well on a Rivendell.  The summary highlight is that it's a 
steel frameset, wide tires, all metal parts, a front rack and decaleur, 
dynamo hub, front and rear lights, full coverage fenders and fender flap, 
and a bell, and still weighs 21.0 lbs.  It features a lot of nice MUSA 
parts.  


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FrkwigUjetg/U9-dA0VGLTI/CIg/YFuFnMUguq0/s1600/IMG_3494.JPG

My Rawland Stag
Frameset: Rawland Stag Size Large (58cm), Jeff Lyon custom threadless fork, 
Miche headset

Wheelset:  White T11 R hub, Schmidt front, Pacenti PL23 rims, Pari-moto 
tires, Schwalbe SV14A tubes (from Riv), allen key skewers

Drivetrain:  Rene Herse cranks, Ultegra SPD pedals, Dura Ace 10sp F+R Ders, 
and DT shifters.  SRAM 11-26 cassette and chain, WI Ti BB.  

Components:  Soba bars, Kelly Stem, CR720 brakes (from Riv), modified 
Tektro brakelevers, Paul Funky Monkey hangers, Ultegra Seatpost, Selle 
Italia SLR Ti saddle, newbaums tape (from Riv)

Extras:  Grand Bois rack, Berthoud decaleur, hanging Edelux headlamp (from 
Riv), Ti King Cages (from Riv), alloy crane bell, Honjo hammered fenders, 
homemade flap, Pixeo battery powered taillight.

The only carbon bit on the bike is the rear derailer pulley cage has some 
carbon.  I did a few weight shaving tricks in the build.  I had been 
shooting for under 19lbs when the fenders and lights were off, but as you 
could predict, I never ride it with the fenders and lights removed, so who 
knows whether I actually made it.  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA



On Monday, August 4, 2014 2:15:10 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:

 Hmm, I don't have a scale.

 Observations from the real world on last week's group ride: I didn't have 
 to ride around standing water from recent rainfall to avoid striping my 
 back, didn't have to ride around gravel on the roadway in places where 
 streets had been torn up but not yet repaved, I was not unnerved by uneven 
 road surfaces descending and I stopped to provide aid with my full-size 
 frame pump to a rider on a CF super light who had a flat to a 23c tire and 
 flubbed his CO2 thingy and had no other way to air up the new tube. As we 
 rode back to the tail of the group I enjoyed my second bottle of water on 
 the subsequent climb, CF guy stopped at a trash can along the river path 
 and discarded both the tube and the empty gas bulbs. Weighing me down. 
 Yeah.

 I'll weigh my Rambouillet sometime and it'll be a number. I tend to think 
 of it as bringing enough bike when the peripherals draw weight 
 consternation from the obsessive camp. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  





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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread justinaugust
Question for weight savings:
Given the mass of different objects, where does it make sense to go aluminum OR 
titanium over steel? Leaving out crabon since that's not the discussion
- seatpost
- Stem
- Bolts for braze ons
- Bottom Bracket
- Saddle rails
- Racks(Al)
- pedal spindles
- any others? Excluding frame

Where do you gain the most weight advatage by picking the lighter material?

-J

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread john muhl
33.7 lbs 61cm Atlantis
32x36 Synergy rims, SON28 dyno, Luxos B and Secula Plus, Mark’s rack with 
small Wald basket, HAR, B17 Select, Thin Gripsters, two King cages, BG Rock 
’n Road tires, Albastache/Dirt Drop, Newbaums, Silver barends, TRP levers, 
CR720 cantis with Funky Monkey hangers, Crane brass bell, 7 speed cassette, 
Microshift front and Deore rear derailers, Pletscher double legger.

31.5 lbs 58cm Betty Foy
32x32 Pacenti PL23 rims, Sanyo dyno, Luxos B, Mark’s rack with small Wald 
basket, Terry Butterfly, Thin Gripsters, King cage, GB Hetre tires, chromo 
Bosco/Tallux, Ergon BioKork grips, Silver thumbies, Tektro FL750 levers, 
R559 sidepulls, Crane brass bell, 7 speed cassette, Deore derailers, 
Pletscher double legger.

25.7 lbs 58cm Saluki
32x32 A23 rims, SON28 dyno, Edelux II, Selle Anatomica Titanico X, Thin 
Gripsters, two King cages, Soma Grand Rando tires (green label), 
Noodle/Tallux, Newbaums, Silver DT shifters, TRP drillium levers, CX70 
cantis, Crane brass bell, SunTour XC Comp double, Ultegra RD, FSA FD, 9 
speed cassette.

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
I was happy with my gravel grinding Atlantis until I saw Bill's 21# Stag. 
 I will post the build and if anyone sees a reasonable way to save weight, 
I am open to suggestions.  I was really impressed with how light the San 
Marcos is.

Atlantis
61
26# with Nitto R-14
Sugino triple
9-speed
Paul's Touring Retro brakes
Shimano bar-ends
Cane Creek levers
Sele Anatomica Titantico-X
Soba bars
Nitto stem
Nitto seat post
Shimano XT spd pedals
Mavic A119 rims 36 spokes
Shimano LX hubs
Continental SpeedRIDE 700x42 tires
King SS bottle cages
brass bell, Garmin mount, Newbaum's cloth tape

Soma San Marcos
59
21.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag
Sugino triple crankset
9-speed
Tektro side-pull brakes
Cane Creek levers
Shimano bar-ends
Selle Anatomico Titantico-X
Noodle bars
Nitto stem
Nitto seatpost
Shimano XT spd pedals
Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke
Shimano 105 hubs
Jack Brown Blue 
King SS bottle cages
bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape

1996 Santana Noventa
60 x 47 fillet-brazed Columbus Encore
48# with Jandd rack
Custom built for a 6'5 x 5'4 400# team, but it fits our 6' x 5'3 300# 
team well enough.  Saving up for a new (lighter) set of wheels.

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive.  That Atlantis 
build has basically nothing light on it, has full-on heavy wheels, and 
still is only 26 pounds?  That's a big surprise.   The San Marcos would be 
under 20lbs if you took off the kickstand, pump and seat bag?  That's 
incredible.  I never would have thought that possible.  It's got 2 top 
tubes for gosh sake!  There are pounds to be taken off both builds, but 
'reasonable' is in the eye of the beholder.  I assume you mean reasonable 
in dollars.  Chasing grams on a perfectly good build is a fool's errand. 
 Chasing grams from a blank sheet of paper is bad enough.  

On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:06:47 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 I was happy with my gravel grinding Atlantis until I saw Bill's 21# Stag. 
  I will post the build and if anyone sees a reasonable way to save weight, 
 I am open to suggestions.  I was really impressed with how light the San 
 Marcos is.

 Atlantis
 61
 26# with Nitto R-14
 Sugino triple
 9-speed
 Paul's Touring Retro brakes
 Shimano bar-ends
 Cane Creek levers
 Sele Anatomica Titantico-X
 Soba bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seat post
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Mavic A119 rims 36 spokes
 Shimano LX hubs
 Continental SpeedRIDE 700x42 tires
 King SS bottle cages
 brass bell, Garmin mount, Newbaum's cloth tape

 Soma San Marcos
 59
 21.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag
 Sugino triple crankset
 9-speed
 Tektro side-pull brakes
 Cane Creek levers
 Shimano bar-ends
 Selle Anatomico Titantico-X
 Noodle bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seatpost
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke
 Shimano 105 hubs
 Jack Brown Blue 
 King SS bottle cages
 bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape

 1996 Santana Noventa
 60 x 47 fillet-brazed Columbus Encore
 48# with Jandd rack
 Custom built for a 6'5 x 5'4 400# team, but it fits our 6' x 5'3 300# 
 team well enough.  Saving up for a new (lighter) set of wheels.

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  



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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Chris Chen
I always include bags, racks, and locks, because, well, I am going to ride
somewhere, aren't I?


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive.  That
 Atlantis build has basically nothing light on it, has full-on heavy wheels,
 and still is only 26 pounds?  That's a big surprise.   The San Marcos would
 be under 20lbs if you took off the kickstand, pump and seat bag?  That's
 incredible.  I never would have thought that possible.  It's got 2 top
 tubes for gosh sake!  There are pounds to be taken off both builds, but
 'reasonable' is in the eye of the beholder.  I assume you mean reasonable
 in dollars.  Chasing grams on a perfectly good build is a fool's errand.
  Chasing grams from a blank sheet of paper is bad enough.

 On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:06:47 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 I was happy with my gravel grinding Atlantis until I saw Bill's 21# Stag.
  I will post the build and if anyone sees a reasonable way to save weight,
 I am open to suggestions.  I was really impressed with how light the San
 Marcos is.

 Atlantis
 61
 26# with Nitto R-14
 Sugino triple
 9-speed
 Paul's Touring Retro brakes
 Shimano bar-ends
 Cane Creek levers
 Sele Anatomica Titantico-X
 Soba bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seat post
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Mavic A119 rims 36 spokes
 Shimano LX hubs
 Continental SpeedRIDE 700x42 tires
 King SS bottle cages
 brass bell, Garmin mount, Newbaum's cloth tape

 Soma San Marcos
 59
 21.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag
 Sugino triple crankset
 9-speed
 Tektro side-pull brakes
 Cane Creek levers
 Shimano bar-ends
 Selle Anatomico Titantico-X
 Noodle bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seatpost
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke
 Shimano 105 hubs
 Jack Brown Blue
 King SS bottle cages
 bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape

 1996 Santana Noventa
 60 x 47 fillet-brazed Columbus Encore
 48# with Jandd rack
 Custom built for a 6'5 x 5'4 400# team, but it fits our 6' x 5'3 300#
 team well enough.  Saving up for a new (lighter) set of wheels.

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Anne Paulson
The San Marcos build weight sounds like it might be too good to be true.
21.5 pounds for a double top tube bike with a triple and a kickstand?


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive.  That
 Atlantis build has basically nothing light on it, has full-on heavy wheels,
 and still is only 26 pounds?  That's a big surprise.   The San Marcos would
 be under 20lbs if you took off the kickstand, pump and seat bag?  That's
 incredible.  I never would have thought that possible.  It's got 2 top
 tubes for gosh sake!  There are pounds to be taken off both builds, but
 'reasonable' is in the eye of the beholder.  I assume you mean reasonable
 in dollars.  Chasing grams on a perfectly good build is a fool's errand.
  Chasing grams from a blank sheet of paper is bad enough.

 On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:06:47 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 I was happy with my gravel grinding Atlantis until I saw Bill's 21# Stag.
  I will post the build and if anyone sees a reasonable way to save weight,
 I am open to suggestions.  I was really impressed with how light the San
 Marcos is.

 Atlantis
 61
 26# with Nitto R-14
 Sugino triple
 9-speed
 Paul's Touring Retro brakes
 Shimano bar-ends
 Cane Creek levers
 Sele Anatomica Titantico-X
 Soba bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seat post
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Mavic A119 rims 36 spokes
 Shimano LX hubs
 Continental SpeedRIDE 700x42 tires
 King SS bottle cages
 brass bell, Garmin mount, Newbaum's cloth tape

 Soma San Marcos
 59
 21.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag
 Sugino triple crankset
 9-speed
 Tektro side-pull brakes
 Cane Creek levers
 Shimano bar-ends
 Selle Anatomico Titantico-X
 Noodle bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seatpost
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke
 Shimano 105 hubs
 Jack Brown Blue
 King SS bottle cages
 bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape

 1996 Santana Noventa
 60 x 47 fillet-brazed Columbus Encore
 48# with Jandd rack
 Custom built for a 6'5 x 5'4 400# team, but it fits our 6' x 5'3 300#
 team well enough.  Saving up for a new (lighter) set of wheels.

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch


Oops !!!

I had my eyes dilated for an eye exam this morning before I weighed the 
bikes.  The Atlantis and Santana weights are correct, but the Sam Marcos is 
26.5 pounds.  I thought 21.5 was too good to be true.  Sorry for the bum 
scoop...

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Metin Uz
I would have to agree, both of those weights look very optimistic. My 
lightest steel bike is a 54cm Della Santa made with very lightweight OS 
tubing, full Campy Record 10-speed group, Ti stem and seatpost, Speedplay 
pedals,  and non-leather seat with Ti rails, yet it is just under 20 lbs.

--Metin

On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:30:38 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Those Atlantis and San Marcos weights are really impressive.  That 
 Atlantis build has basically nothing light on it, has full-on heavy wheels, 
 and still is only 26 pounds?  That's a big surprise.   The San Marcos would 
 be under 20lbs if you took off the kickstand, pump and seat bag?  That's 
 incredible.  I never would have thought that possible.  It's got 2 top 
 tubes for gosh sake!  There are pounds to be taken off both builds, but 
 'reasonable' is in the eye of the beholder.  I assume you mean reasonable 
 in dollars.  Chasing grams on a perfectly good build is a fool's errand. 
  Chasing grams from a blank sheet of paper is bad enough.  

 On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:06:47 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:

 I was happy with my gravel grinding Atlantis until I saw Bill's 21# Stag. 
  I will post the build and if anyone sees a reasonable way to save weight, 
 I am open to suggestions.  I was really impressed with how light the San 
 Marcos is.

 Atlantis
 61
 26# with Nitto R-14
 Sugino triple
 9-speed
 Paul's Touring Retro brakes
 Shimano bar-ends
 Cane Creek levers
 Sele Anatomica Titantico-X
 Soba bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seat post
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Mavic A119 rims 36 spokes
 Shimano LX hubs
 Continental SpeedRIDE 700x42 tires
 King SS bottle cages
 brass bell, Garmin mount, Newbaum's cloth tape

 Soma San Marcos
 59
 21.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag
 Sugino triple crankset
 9-speed
 Tektro side-pull brakes
 Cane Creek levers
 Shimano bar-ends
 Selle Anatomico Titantico-X
 Noodle bars
 Nitto stem
 Nitto seatpost
 Shimano XT spd pedals
 Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke
 Shimano 105 hubs
 Jack Brown Blue 
 King SS bottle cages
 bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape

 1996 Santana Noventa
 60 x 47 fillet-brazed Columbus Encore
 48# with Jandd rack
 Custom built for a 6'5 x 5'4 400# team, but it fits our 6' x 5'3 300# 
 team well enough.  Saving up for a new (lighter) set of wheels.

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  



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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
Haha!  26.5 is much more believable.  

That Atlantis is still hot at 26lbs, because it's so bomber and still 
respectable in weight.  You could drop 2 pounds or more but it may cost you 
$1500 to do it.  


On Monday, August 4, 2014 1:28:19 PM UTC-7, Tony McG wrote:



 Oops !!!

 I had my eyes dilated for an eye exam this morning before I weighed the 
 bikes.  The Atlantis and Santana weights are correct, but the Sam Marcos is 
 26.5 pounds.  I thought 21.5 was too good to be true.  Sorry for the bum 
 scoop...


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch
The Atlantis deserves a better wheelset, but it will have to wait; the 
tandem's wheels are on their last leg.

My poor mans Atlantis (Surly LHT)
60
28# with Pletscher rack
Sugino triple
9-speed
Tektro CR720 brakes
Tektro levers
Shimano bar-ends
WTB Shadow-V saddle
Thudbuster ST seatpost
Salsa Cowbell 2 bars
Cane Creek S6 headset
Truativ stem
Shimano DX spd pedals
Mavic T52 rims 32 spokes
Shimano XT hubs
Schwalbe Dureme 700x42
King SS bottle cages
Newbaum's cloth tape

I built this bike about a month before I found my Atlantis.  It has been 
hanging in the garage since.

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread RJM
I put this in the Roadeo thread; I'll put it here too. 

Rivendell Roadeo 53cm Orange w/ white headtube

20.8 lbs. - That ain't bad for a bike I didn't really prioritize light 
weight on. The only thing I would add to this bike to go out on a ride is 
my Garmin 500, water bottle or two and a Marks tool wrap held on the brooks 
with a John's strap. I usually take a tube or two, small pump, tire levers 
and a couple of allen keys of appropriate size.

Ultegra 6800 groupset w/ 50x34 compact crankset.
Rolf Vigor RS wheelset
11x28 cassette (Ultegra 6800)
Nitto Mark's Handlebars
Look Keo Classic pedals
32mm Compass Stampede Pass tires (regular not ultra light ones)
Tektro R539 brakes
Chris King headset (threaded)
Nitto Lugged quill stem
Brooks B17 Select
Nitto S83 seatpost
2 wire bottle cages, the kind every bike store in the world carries.
Nitto Bar Plugs
Newbaums cloth tape (twined and shellacked)
Garmin mount for bike computer

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:04:20 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread dougP
My curousity beat my who cares? attitude.  58 cm Atlantis, pretty 
standard Rivendell build (Brooks, Sugino triple, etc), with Soma C-lines on 
Mavic A-719 rims, Tubus Cosmo rear rack  small Nitto front, Acorn boxy bag 
with usual assortment of junk:  36-1/2 lbs.(dry; no water).  Since I had 
the scale handy I weighed the Acorn bag alone @ 5 lbs.

To get under 30 lbs would mean giving up a lot of utility (not my 
kickstand!).  Ain't gonna happen.  Still, this is a fun exercise every once 
in a while.  IIRC, my bike always gains weight.  

Just weighed my wife's 47 cm Atlantis:  30 lbs as she usually rides it:  
Riv built plus kickstand, cheap aluminum rack with REI trunk bag, and small 
Acorn handlebar bag.  Without the trunk bag, 27 lbs.  32 hole wheels 
w/Compass tires.  Can't recall the seat but it's not a Brooks, something 
lighter.  

dougP  

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread 'Jack' via RBW Owners Bunch


 I posted the weight of my 54cm Hunqapillar yesterday (31.4 lbs. with 
 nothing but a rear rack) and now I'm 'weighing in' with my 56cm Atlantis. 
 It tips the scales at a svelte 29.4 pounds with SKS fenders and a Nitto 
 rear rack. The Atlantis is built with components typical for a Rivendell: 

   Brooks B17 saddle
   Soma mustache bars 
   Nitto Technomic stem
   Sugino XD2 triple crankset, 
   Silver bar end shifters
   Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes
   Tektro 200 brake levers
   Grip King pedals
   Deore XT hubs
   8-speed cassette 
   Deore rear der
   Suntour XC LTD front der
   Alex DA16 rims with 1.5 x 26 Pasela Tourguard tires 

It would be reasonable to expect a Hunqapillar to weight about two pounds 
more than an Atlantis with roughly the same components and accessories. At 
least that is my experience. Some of the difference in my case is the 
26x1.5 Pasela tires on my Atlantis are significantly lighter than the 
700x50 Schwalbe Big Bens on the Hunq. 

This thread is interesting - so much of the weight of a bike is in the 
components, lights, accessories, racks, bags, and what is inside the bags. 
That stuff has weight, but it is what makes a bicycle more comfortable, 
practical and useful.  

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread RJM


 Just weighed my Sam Hillborne. I use this bike for everything that doesn't 
 involve pure road riding that I do with the Roadeo


29.6 lbs. 

48cm frame - Orange, canti post
Nitto 7cm stem
Brooks B17 special
Ultegra 6500 triple crank
Ultegra 6500 bottom bracket
Ultegra 6500 derailers
Ultegra 6500 cassette 
Thin gripster pedals
Nitto Noodle bar 41cm
Newbaum's cloth tape
silver bar end shifters
Regular Sam Hillborne seat post and headset
two wire bottle cages
Nitto M12 front rack
Bontrager rear rack with a rear blinky attached
Saddlesack small
Shimano LX/Synergy wheelset
Fatty Rumpkin tires
XT v brakes
Tektro v brake levers
single legged kickstand.
Brass bell

Fenders are off of it now; those go on in fall.


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Bill Lindsay


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x2j9H0NY_7w/U-BGWNgrpsI/CJU/PyAIgjrI5e8/s1600/IMG_3498.JPG
My Bombadil:

56cm Bomba
32 hole Synergy rims, XT hubs, force field Fatty Rumpkin
Sugino Mity 900 cranks, Thin Gripsters, XTR Rear der, campy front
8sp Shimano barcons
CR720 brakes, SRAM levers
Noodles, Nitto Lugged Stem
Brooks B17 Nitto S83 post
Nitto Big Front and Big Rear Racks
Jandd panniers (empty)
Wald big front basket
Sackville Large Shopsack (empty)
2 King Cages
Brass Bell
SKS Fenders, Kickstand

Using the same bathroom scale that says my Rawland is 21.0 lbs, she weighs 
in at.40.5 lbs

I freaking love that bike.  




On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:10:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 Andy

 I like what you had to say about utility.  I agree that a truly stripped 
 down bike that is often not enough bike for the job is kind of lame.  That 
 said, a stripped down bike that is just enough bike for a stripped down 
 application can be cool, too.  Anyway, the only build I have that I sweated 
 the weight is not a Rivendell.  It's my main brevet bike.  I list it here, 
 at the risk of being too far OT, just because it's a build kit that could 
 work just as well on a Rivendell.  The summary highlight is that it's a 
 steel frameset, wide tires, all metal parts, a front rack and decaleur, 
 dynamo hub, front and rear lights, full coverage fenders and fender flap, 
 and a bell, and still weighs 21.0 lbs.  It features a lot of nice MUSA 
 parts.  



 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FrkwigUjetg/U9-dA0VGLTI/CIg/YFuFnMUguq0/s1600/IMG_3494.JPG

 My Rawland Stag
 Frameset: Rawland Stag Size Large (58cm), Jeff Lyon custom threadless 
 fork, Miche headset

 Wheelset:  White T11 R hub, Schmidt front, Pacenti PL23 rims, Pari-moto 
 tires, Schwalbe SV14A tubes (from Riv), allen key skewers

 Drivetrain:  Rene Herse cranks, Ultegra SPD pedals, Dura Ace 10sp F+R 
 Ders, and DT shifters.  SRAM 11-26 cassette and chain, WI Ti BB.  

 Components:  Soba bars, Kelly Stem, CR720 brakes (from Riv), modified 
 Tektro brakelevers, Paul Funky Monkey hangers, Ultegra Seatpost, Selle 
 Italia SLR Ti saddle, newbaums tape (from Riv)

 Extras:  Grand Bois rack, Berthoud decaleur, hanging Edelux headlamp (from 
 Riv), Ti King Cages (from Riv), alloy crane bell, Honjo hammered fenders, 
 homemade flap, Pixeo battery powered taillight.

 The only carbon bit on the bike is the rear derailer pulley cage has some 
 carbon.  I did a few weight shaving tricks in the build.  I had been 
 shooting for under 19lbs when the fenders and lights were off, but as you 
 could predict, I never ride it with the fenders and lights removed, so who 
 knows whether I actually made it.  :)

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Monday, August 4, 2014 2:15:10 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:

 Hmm, I don't have a scale.

 Observations from the real world on last week's group ride: I didn't have 
 to ride around standing water from recent rainfall to avoid striping my 
 back, didn't have to ride around gravel on the roadway in places where 
 streets had been torn up but not yet repaved, I was not unnerved by uneven 
 road surfaces descending and I stopped to provide aid with my full-size 
 frame pump to a rider on a CF super light who had a flat to a 23c tire and 
 flubbed his CO2 thingy and had no other way to air up the new tube. As we 
 rode back to the tail of the group I enjoyed my second bottle of water on 
 the subsequent climb, CF guy stopped at a trash can along the river path 
 and discarded both the tube and the empty gas bulbs. Weighing me down. 
 Yeah.

 I'll weigh my Rambouillet sometime and it'll be a number. I tend to think 
 of it as bringing enough bike when the peripherals draw weight 
 consternation from the obsessive camp. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  







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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Chris Chen
Magic 40! Now we're talkin!


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x2j9H0NY_7w/U-BGWNgrpsI/CJU/PyAIgjrI5e8/s1600/IMG_3498.JPG
 My Bombadil:

 56cm Bomba
 32 hole Synergy rims, XT hubs, force field Fatty Rumpkin
 Sugino Mity 900 cranks, Thin Gripsters, XTR Rear der, campy front
 8sp Shimano barcons
 CR720 brakes, SRAM levers
 Noodles, Nitto Lugged Stem
 Brooks B17 Nitto S83 post
 Nitto Big Front and Big Rear Racks
 Jandd panniers (empty)
 Wald big front basket
 Sackville Large Shopsack (empty)
 2 King Cages
 Brass Bell
 SKS Fenders, Kickstand

 Using the same bathroom scale that says my Rawland is 21.0 lbs, she weighs
 in at.40.5 lbs

 I freaking love that bike.




 On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:10:00 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:


 Andy

 I like what you had to say about utility.  I agree that a truly stripped
 down bike that is often not enough bike for the job is kind of lame.  That
 said, a stripped down bike that is just enough bike for a stripped down
 application can be cool, too.  Anyway, the only build I have that I sweated
 the weight is not a Rivendell.  It's my main brevet bike.  I list it here,
 at the risk of being too far OT, just because it's a build kit that could
 work just as well on a Rivendell.  The summary highlight is that it's a
 steel frameset, wide tires, all metal parts, a front rack and decaleur,
 dynamo hub, front and rear lights, full coverage fenders and fender flap,
 and a bell, and still weighs 21.0 lbs.  It features a lot of nice MUSA
 parts.



 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FrkwigUjetg/U9-dA0VGLTI/CIg/YFuFnMUguq0/s1600/IMG_3494.JPG

 My Rawland Stag
 Frameset: Rawland Stag Size Large (58cm), Jeff Lyon custom threadless
 fork, Miche headset

 Wheelset:  White T11 R hub, Schmidt front, Pacenti PL23 rims, Pari-moto
 tires, Schwalbe SV14A tubes (from Riv), allen key skewers

 Drivetrain:  Rene Herse cranks, Ultegra SPD pedals, Dura Ace 10sp F+R
 Ders, and DT shifters.  SRAM 11-26 cassette and chain, WI Ti BB.

 Components:  Soba bars, Kelly Stem, CR720 brakes (from Riv), modified
 Tektro brakelevers, Paul Funky Monkey hangers, Ultegra Seatpost, Selle
 Italia SLR Ti saddle, newbaums tape (from Riv)

 Extras:  Grand Bois rack, Berthoud decaleur, hanging Edelux headlamp
 (from Riv), Ti King Cages (from Riv), alloy crane bell, Honjo hammered
 fenders, homemade flap, Pixeo battery powered taillight.

 The only carbon bit on the bike is the rear derailer pulley cage has some
 carbon.  I did a few weight shaving tricks in the build.  I had been
 shooting for under 19lbs when the fenders and lights were off, but as you
 could predict, I never ride it with the fenders and lights removed, so who
 knows whether I actually made it.  :)

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Monday, August 4, 2014 2:15:10 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:

 Hmm, I don't have a scale.

 Observations from the real world on last week's group ride: I didn't
 have to ride around standing water from recent rainfall to avoid striping
 my back, didn't have to ride around gravel on the roadway in places where
 streets had been torn up but not yet repaved, I was not unnerved by uneven
 road surfaces descending and I stopped to provide aid with my full-size
 frame pump to a rider on a CF super light who had a flat to a 23c tire and
 flubbed his CO2 thingy and had no other way to air up the new tube. As we
 rode back to the tail of the group I enjoyed my second bottle of water on
 the subsequent climb, CF guy stopped at a trash can along the river path
 and discarded both the tube and the empty gas bulbs. Weighing me down.
 Yeah.

 I'll weigh my Rambouillet sometime and it'll be a number. I tend to
 think of it as bringing enough bike when the peripherals draw weight
 consternation from the obsessive camp.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.






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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Tom Virgil


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QmGinrFmagw/U-BMNW_ovJI/AF0/BqiNnKKshFE/s1600/14130213923_0c4dda5fba_o.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QmGinrFmagw/U-BMNW_ovJI/AF0/BqiNnKKshFE/s1600/14130213923_0c4dda5fba_o.jpg
35 pounds for this puppy.

~Tom



On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-04 Thread Tom Virgil
Oh.  I see I'm not playing nice.

Model: 2013 Sam Hillborne
Framesize: 52 cm (old sizing)
Weight:  35 lbs includes Sackville small seat bag with Sackville tool roll 
inside (tube, patch kit, multitool inside), empty bottles, Acorn handlebar 
bag (empty), bottles (empty), and Zefal Pump.  I am going to guess 31-32 
lbs without all of that.

It is a standard build with change outs of noodle bars for Albas and 
additions of a Brooks B67 saddle, Shimano Dura-Ace bar ends for silver 
levers, and Thin Gripsters.  The 36 hole Velocity Atlas front rim was 
changed out for a 32 hole Velocity Synergy with a Shimano LX Dynamo and 
there is an Eyc front headlamp (cool little light) and Dyno Rack Light.  I 
added a Nitto Mark's Front Rack M1 and Nitto M14 in back.  Hoommm.  Let's 
not be hasty.  I guess i's not a standard build any more.  That seems to 
happen with these bikes.

~Tom








On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:15:33 PM UTC-7, Tom Virgil wrote:


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QmGinrFmagw/U-BMNW_ovJI/AF0/BqiNnKKshFE/s1600/14130213923_0c4dda5fba_o.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QmGinrFmagw/U-BMNW_ovJI/AF0/BqiNnKKshFE/s1600/14130213923_0c4dda5fba_o.jpg
 35 pounds for this puppy.

 ~Tom



 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  



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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Marc Irwin




I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mY1_t_hJZIQ/UQNIbGcLQtI/Dts/NB1OYr5uyD8/s320/IMG_0225.JPG


On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Chris Chen
Well that was easy.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9096121718/in/photostream/


On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:



 I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.



 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mY1_t_hJZIQ/UQNIbGcLQtI/Dts/NB1OYr5uyD8/s320/IMG_0225.JPG


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread cyclotourist
Where did you get that sticker???
Awesomeness!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:



 I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.



 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mY1_t_hJZIQ/UQNIbGcLQtI/Dts/NB1OYr5uyD8/s320/IMG_0225.JPG


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes
 weigh.

 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and
 not expected.

 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.

 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread William!
Measured as I ride them, on my bathroom scale:

58cm Roadeo with Brooks swallow, mavic 32h wheels with green jack browns, 
misc spd clipless, sram force group, soba bars, acorn saddle bag, 
flat/spare/toolkit: 20.5lbs

61cm Atlantis with Shimano Deore/Sugino/Tektro/Silver 'group', beefy 36h 
wheels with shimano dyno hub, fenders, BM eyc dyno light, brooks b17, jack 
brown blues, mks 'battle axe' grip king pedals, tubus cosmo rear rack, v. 
old large baggins bag, small berthoud from RBW garage sale containing 
flat/spare/toolkit, u-lock and saddle-security-cable: 31lbs.

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 2:10:57 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where did you get that sticker??? 
 Awesomeness!

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:



 I'm afraid to even find out about the Hunq.



 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mY1_t_hJZIQ/UQNIbGcLQtI/Dts/NB1OYr5uyD8/s320/IMG_0225.JPG


 On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:04:20 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. (Including 
 fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells 
 is ok since dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete 
 build. But no bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see 
 what everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and 
 not expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Tom Harrop
20 lb eh? I weighed my 68 cm Bomba with racks and lock but no bags recently 
when I was considering boxing it up to ship to myself. SON dyno front hub, 
Phil Wood rear, 60 mm Big Apples, Berthoud SS fenders. It was 18 kg and 
change. I put an Ursus Jumbo kickstand on today, so I'm thinking I might 
have tipped 20 kg... If I go past a public weighbridge anytime soon I'll 
weigh in and report back!

Heavy-ass bike yes, but I don't think there's one single component I would 
want to remove. Everything's paying its way.

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread jphillip...@icloud.com
I climbed on the bathroom scale with my Hunqapillar and the scale said 
47lbs (minus the rider)! So I emptied my saddle sack onto the kitchen scale 
and the contents came to 5lbs (maybe I don't need so many Irish straps?), 
and I would guess the medium saddlesack is about 3-4lbs, since the the 
medium shopsack is 1lb, so my 54cm Hunq is about 38-39lbs with:

Standard Hunqapillar albatross bar build
Nitto small front  big back racks
Medium Wald basket
SKS fenders  Riv mudflaps
50mm Marathon Supremes
Brooks flyer select saddle
White Industries pedals  BG halfclips
Son Dynamo  Luxos U headlamp
2 King Cage Iris bottle cages
1 brass Crane bell
1 mirror

  I guess I better recheck how much weight my bike racks can hold.

Cheers,
John

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:04:20 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Since there has been curiosity about peoples' complete bikes' and/or 
 frames' weights, I figured it would be fun to reveal how much our Rivbikes 
 weigh.
  
 Would be informative to know:
 1. Model
 2. Framesize
 3. Weight of complete build, or your frameset. 
 (Including fenders/bottlecages/racks/lights/bells is ok since 
 dismantle-ization would be unfair to expect of a complete build. But no 
 bags/bottles on board, please).
 4. Build list, if you feel up to all that typing. Would be fun to see what 
 everyone is hanging on their Rivs anyway. But that is a lot to ask and not 
 expected.
  
 I would start, but I have to go home and weight the bikes first.
 So I will try to report back soon with my Sam and Bleriot weights.
  
 And if you guys feel strongly about this being inappropriate for 
 Riv-culture, please delete the thread, but don't run me outta the forum on 
 a rail. This is all intended in good fun and info-purposes.
  


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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Garth

   Lol :)
  
   Some things are better left unsaid, so said my Bombadil  !  



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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Goshen Peter
My bombadil is a large sturdy friend who is always there to get me home. I
won't shame him by outing his heft. 
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Lol :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Robert F Harrison
And I can't figure out if it should be with racks, bags, and baskets...and if 
so, which racks, bags, and baskets?

In any case my Hunq, with motor, feels about a half pound lighter than it did 
this morning before my 20 mile ride. Does that count?

Aloha, Bob

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm confused. Do you want the weight of the bike going uphill or coming 
downhill? 'Cause there's no way they're the same.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread lungimsam
Patrick, just measure the weight going up, and then measure going down and 
divide by 2 to get the average weight.

Grades don't matter, so pick your grade!

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread 'Jack' via RBW Owners Bunch
My 54cm Hunqapillar weighs 31.4 pounds with no fenders, bags or pump. Here 
are some aspects of the build that might impact on the weight:

Schwalbe  50mm Big Ben tires
SON dyno hub
Soma mustache bars
Brooks B17
MKS Grip King pedals
2 Blackburn bottle cages
Avid V-brakes
Simplex Retrofriction shifters
Sugino XD2 triple crankset 
Racktime Addit rear rack (advertised weight 1.6 pounds)
Cateye 5-LED rear light

So not a lightweight bike, but if that is what I wanted I would have bought 
something in carbon fiber. 





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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread rob markwardt
The weigh-in was had...contenders had a pretty nice stare down...the 
results are:

Bleriot 
34.4 lbs.  Heavy weight build includes Schwalbe tires, B17, big Carradice 
(didn't empty...just a tube or two, couple levers, patch kit, etc), 
fenders, Blackburn rear rack, MKS Touring pedals, battery light.  It's a 
smooth 34 pounds.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14596538148/


Riv Road 
25.6.  B17, frame pump, Sugino PX crank and mainly 105 components. Tires 
are Pasela TG's.  Feels pretty light to me.  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14508252566/


The lightest in fleet is a 74 Hetchins.  Comes in at about 23lbs.  Going to 
do a triathlon on this in a couple weeks...should freak out the tri geeks.

  











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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread lungimsam


 Rob,


What kinda saddle bag is that on the Road?

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

2014-08-03 Thread rob markwardt
An older Velo Orange...new ones are a different color.

On Sunday, August 3, 2014 8:31:52 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

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 What kinda saddle bag is that on the Road?


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