Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread ascpgh
Really come to love the BBQ I was lucky to enjoy when I lived and went to 
school in Arkansas, sort of crossroads between a lot of the mentioned 
styles so far. 

Memphis was always a destination in the spring for the Memphis in May BBQ 
competition. The local place I always visit is Charlie Vergo's Rendezvous. 
The best way to describe how to get there is to go to the Peabody Hotel 
lobby bar (patronize or not), watch the duck master march the ducks from 
the large lobby fountain, along the red carpet rolled out for them, to the 
elevator and their evening trip to their rooftop aviary. When returning 
your empty to the bar, ask how to ge tot the Rendezvous. They'll point to 
the door that, when you exit it, will have you in eyeshot of the door a 
half block away leading down the stairs to the BBQ restaurant. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh (after several locations down there)

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06:08 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I like to go to Gates in KC and get a pound an in other words a 
 sandwich with 1.5 lbs of brisket on it, and also some burnt ends and 
 baked beans. 

 KC is hickory sauce BBQ, whereas down here in Texas it's vinegar and 
 mesquite.  Of course in Carolina it's mustard, and BBQ is pork. 

 Lockhart is all about BBQ as Ron mentioned, they have like 4 BBQ 
 places in about a 10 block radius.  I like it because it's less 
 pretentious than the popular places like the Salt Lick and County Line 
 in Austin.  Plus you can ride your bike to Lockhart without fearing 
 for your life.  I would never ride my bike on the roads to the Salt 
 Lick, too many drunk cowboys in trucks and SUVs, and no shoulder. 

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Tim Gavin 
 tim@littlevillagemag.com javascript: wrote: 
  No no no.  Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper BBQ. 
  Meaning, it's slow smoked.  I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and 
  Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC. 
  
  I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia 
  style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et al. 
  
  Growing up in Iowa, I was introduced to Iowan BBQ.  Meaning: 
  un-smoked 
  chicken or beef roast, cooked in a crock pot with syrupy sweet 
 store-bought 
  (often Cookie's) barbecue sauce, then scooped onto white bread buns 
 like a 
  sloppy joe. 
  
  That is the worst style, by far.  Un-BBQ!  Church lady BBQ! 
  
  There are now a couple decent BBQ joints up here, with proper smokers, 
  usually started by southern emigrants. 
  
  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare sub-standard 
 cuts 
  of meat and keep them moist.  In Iowa (a top pork producer), we get the 
 pick 
  of the pig that doesn't need to be smoked.  I never saw all the other 
 parts 
  (jowls, feet, neck, etc) until I visited the South! 
  
  Tim Gavin 
  Cedar Rapids, IA 
  
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  Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the 
 worst 
  at least? 
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread Ron Mc
my cousin used to be the head graphic artist for the Memphis newspaper and 
their publishing concern.  He won in the Memphis competition a couple of 
times.  But around here, pulled pork is carnitas en chile rojo, and I much 
prefer it that way.  

On Friday, November 21, 2014 7:23:30 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote:

 Really come to love the BBQ I was lucky to enjoy when I lived and went to 
 school in Arkansas, sort of crossroads between a lot of the mentioned 
 styles so far. 

 Memphis was always a destination in the spring for the Memphis in May BBQ 
 competition. The local place I always visit is Charlie Vergo's Rendezvous. 
 The best way to describe how to get there is to go to the Peabody Hotel 
 lobby bar (patronize or not), watch the duck master march the ducks from 
 the large lobby fountain, along the red carpet rolled out for them, to the 
 elevator and their evening trip to their rooftop aviary. When returning 
 your empty to the bar, ask how to ge tot the Rendezvous. They'll point to 
 the door that, when you exit it, will have you in eyeshot of the door a 
 half block away leading down the stairs to the BBQ restaurant. 

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh (after several locations down there)

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:06:08 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I like to go to Gates in KC and get a pound an in other words a 
 sandwich with 1.5 lbs of brisket on it, and also some burnt ends and 
 baked beans. 

 KC is hickory sauce BBQ, whereas down here in Texas it's vinegar and 
 mesquite.  Of course in Carolina it's mustard, and BBQ is pork. 

 Lockhart is all about BBQ as Ron mentioned, they have like 4 BBQ 
 places in about a 10 block radius.  I like it because it's less 
 pretentious than the popular places like the Salt Lick and County Line 
 in Austin.  Plus you can ride your bike to Lockhart without fearing 
 for your life.  I would never ride my bike on the roads to the Salt 
 Lick, too many drunk cowboys in trucks and SUVs, and no shoulder. 

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Tim Gavin 
 tim@littlevillagemag.com wrote: 
  No no no.  Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper BBQ. 
  Meaning, it's slow smoked.  I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and 
  Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC. 
  
  I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia 
  style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et al. 
  
  Growing up in Iowa, I was introduced to Iowan BBQ.  Meaning: 
  un-smoked 
  chicken or beef roast, cooked in a crock pot with syrupy sweet 
 store-bought 
  (often Cookie's) barbecue sauce, then scooped onto white bread buns 
 like a 
  sloppy joe. 
  
  That is the worst style, by far.  Un-BBQ!  Church lady BBQ! 
  
  There are now a couple decent BBQ joints up here, with proper smokers, 
  usually started by southern emigrants. 
  
  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare sub-standard 
 cuts 
  of meat and keep them moist.  In Iowa (a top pork producer), we get the 
 pick 
  of the pig that doesn't need to be smoked.  I never saw all the other 
 parts 
  (jowls, feet, neck, etc) until I visited the South! 
  
  Tim Gavin 
  Cedar Rapids, IA 
  
  On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com 
  wrote: 
  
  Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the 
 worst 
  at least? 
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread Edwin W
You say of course in Carolina it's mustard. I would say that Mustard 
sauce is popular in the Columbia, SC, area, but the dominant theme in the 
Carolinas is pulled pork with a vinegar-based sauce. My family is from the 
Pee Dee region of SC, and that's what we tend to.

Edwin

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:06:08 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I like to go to Gates in KC and get a pound an in other words a 
 sandwich with 1.5 lbs of brisket on it, and also some burnt ends and 
 baked beans. 

 KC is hickory sauce BBQ, whereas down here in Texas it's vinegar and 
 mesquite.  Of course in Carolina it's mustard, and BBQ is pork. 

 Lockhart is all about BBQ as Ron mentioned, they have like 4 BBQ 
 places in about a 10 block radius.  I like it because it's less 
 pretentious than the popular places like the Salt Lick and County Line 
 in Austin.  Plus you can ride your bike to Lockhart without fearing 
 for your life.  I would never ride my bike on the roads to the Salt 
 Lick, too many drunk cowboys in trucks and SUVs, and no shoulder. 

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Tim Gavin 
 tim@littlevillagemag.com javascript: wrote: 
  No no no.  Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper BBQ. 
  Meaning, it's slow smoked.  I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and 
  Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC. 
  
  I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia 
  style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et al. 
  
  Growing up in Iowa, I was introduced to Iowan BBQ.  Meaning: 
  un-smoked 
  chicken or beef roast, cooked in a crock pot with syrupy sweet 
 store-bought 
  (often Cookie's) barbecue sauce, then scooped onto white bread buns 
 like a 
  sloppy joe. 
  
  That is the worst style, by far.  Un-BBQ!  Church lady BBQ! 
  
  There are now a couple decent BBQ joints up here, with proper smokers, 
  usually started by southern emigrants. 
  
  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare sub-standard 
 cuts 
  of meat and keep them moist.  In Iowa (a top pork producer), we get the 
 pick 
  of the pig that doesn't need to be smoked.  I never saw all the other 
 parts 
  (jowls, feet, neck, etc) until I visited the South! 
  
  Tim Gavin 
  Cedar Rapids, IA 
  
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  Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-21 Thread Ron Mc
Steve is right that BBQ originated as way to make cheap cuts of meat 
palatable for farm hands and migrant workers.  In Texas, it was German 
butchers smoking brisket for the migrant field hands.  The classic Texas 
BBQ market is in fact a meat market selling prime cuts, whole fresh 
vegetables and smoked meats on the side.  You skinny up to the counter, buy 
some meat, a tomato and an onion, it's handed to you wrapped in butcher 
paper.  You grab a Big Red from the cooler, and you're on your own from 
there.  Hope you brought a knife.  One of the best I grew up with was 
Menger Creek Market in Boerne, but alas, they went by the wayside after 100 
years.  It was a shame to see them go.  
People travel from near and far to line up at Smitty's.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP533.jpg
  

The other thing we have in the Texas hill country is smoked and dried 
Alsatian sausage.  I'm a connoisseur of the stuff.  The best is Riverside 
Market in Boerne and a very close second is Dziuk's Meat Market in 
Castroville - this is their venison

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/dziuksf.jpg

Keeps forever (gets better with age), easy to haul, and makes a great 
fishing, kayaking or biking lunch.  
http://www.dziuks.com/shop/beef-pork-dried-sausage

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:23:53 PM UTC-6, EricP wrote:

 Okay, I found Steve's comment extremely funny.  Mainly as my wife has 
 worked for USDA for 25+ years.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

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 javascript: wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:
  

  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard* 
 cuts of meat and keep them moist.  


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard, 
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade? 
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread lungimsam
Is Maryland a northern or southern state? I think they were with the Union 
during the civil war.

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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Maryland is up by Texarkana - we don'/t consider that south.  We've had a 
week of chill, with lows into the 20s.  I managed to get a window Sunday 
morning for a 30-mi ride.  It was breaking 50 but the 95% humidity was 
fairly penetrating (still better than summer here).  Met a guy with a 
Rivendell custom at my halfway stop.  I don't think they had it so good, 
though, because it was raining right after I got home.  We're expecting 
clear and sunny this Sunday into the mid 70s.  All through winter we will 
get a weekend into the 70s every month.  

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 Is Maryland a northern or southern state? I think they were with the Union 
 during the civil war.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Eunice Chang
Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon
line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the mason-dixon line.

Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore southern.

In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were below
freezing Monday night!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-below-freezing-temperatures/

-E.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a 
northern county.  After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S 
or E-W.  

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon 
 line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the mason-dixon line.

 Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore 
 southern.

 In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were below 
 freezing Monday night!

 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-below-freezing-temperatures/

 -E.

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 Is Maryland a northern or southern state? I think they were with the 
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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Gavin
The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line.  No Waffle Houses north of
the M-D line.  I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House to IHOP.
Mmmm, pecan waffles...

I'm not the first to make this observation.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,9630/

Other foods I miss from the South:  Good BBQ, in its many regional
variants.  Cajun cuisine.  Fresh seafood, especially Gulf shrimp.  Beans 
rice.  Cheese grits.  Bananas Foster.  Beignets.  Muffalettas.

I flew as a flight instructor based in Pensacola, FL, and we made fuel
stops all over the south.  Often, the choice for where to stop was based on
what local food was available.  Typical phone call: Hello, Lake Charles
Flight Service?  You're serving Crawfish Etoufee today?  Sweet, we'll be
there in a couple hours.

However, when I lived in the south, I couldn't get: Good sweet corn (Iowa's
is tops).  German food.  And usually their green veggies were swimming in
pork grease.

And I never understood how there are probably twice as many ice cream shops
(per capita) in the North compared to the South?  I mean, it's warm down
there so you'd think ice cream would sell well.  Go figure.

-Tim


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a
 northern county.  After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S
 or E-W.

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon
 line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the mason-dixon line.

 Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore
 southern.

 In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were
 below freezing Monday night!
 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-
 below-freezing-temperatures/

 -E.



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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Goshen Peter
Hell when I lived in South Carolina they spoke of those uppity damn Yankees
in Charlotte and in most of NC, haha. I really miss shrimp and grits,
steampots, fresh steamed crawfish and of course mustard bbq, the best hands
down.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com
wrote:

 The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line.  No Waffle Houses north
 of the M-D line.  I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House to
 IHOP.  Mmmm, pecan waffles...

 I'm not the first to make this observation.
 http://www.theonion.com/articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,9630/

 Other foods I miss from the South:  Good BBQ, in its many regional
 variants.  Cajun cuisine.  Fresh seafood, especially Gulf shrimp.  Beans 
 rice.  Cheese grits.  Bananas Foster.  Beignets.  Muffalettas.

 I flew as a flight instructor based in Pensacola, FL, and we made fuel
 stops all over the south.  Often, the choice for where to stop was based on
 what local food was available.  Typical phone call: Hello, Lake Charles
 Flight Service?  You're serving Crawfish Etoufee today?  Sweet, we'll be
 there in a couple hours.

 However, when I lived in the south, I couldn't get: Good sweet corn
 (Iowa's is tops).  German food.  And usually their green veggies were
 swimming in pork grease.

 And I never understood how there are probably twice as many ice cream
 shops (per capita) in the North compared to the South?  I mean, it's warm
 down there so you'd think ice cream would sell well.  Go figure.

 -Tim


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a
 northern county.  After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S
 or E-W.

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon
 line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the mason-dixon line.

 Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore
 southern.

 In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were
 below freezing Monday night!
 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-
 below-freezing-temperatures/

 -E.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ.  
This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP535.jpg

Sauce?  We dun need no sauce  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP539.jpg

But you better bring your knife, or everyone will know you're not from here




On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:12:14 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:

 Hell when I lived in South Carolina they spoke of those uppity damn 
 Yankees in Charlotte and in most of NC, haha. I really miss shrimp and 
 grits, steampots, fresh steamed crawfish and of course mustard bbq, the 
 best hands down. 

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line.  No Waffle Houses north 
 of the M-D line.  I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House to 
 IHOP.  Mmmm, pecan waffles...

 I'm not the first to make this observation.  
 http://www.theonion.com/articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,9630/

 Other foods I miss from the South:  Good BBQ, in its many regional 
 variants.  Cajun cuisine.  Fresh seafood, especially Gulf shrimp.  Beans  
 rice.  Cheese grits.  Bananas Foster.  Beignets.  Muffalettas.

 I flew as a flight instructor based in Pensacola, FL, and we made fuel 
 stops all over the south.  Often, the choice for where to stop was based on 
 what local food was available.  Typical phone call: Hello, Lake Charles 
 Flight Service?  You're serving Crawfish Etoufee today?  Sweet, we'll be 
 there in a couple hours.

 However, when I lived in the south, I couldn't get: Good sweet corn 
 (Iowa's is tops).  German food.  And usually their green veggies were 
 swimming in pork grease.

 And I never understood how there are probably twice as many ice cream 
 shops (per capita) in the North compared to the South?  I mean, it's warm 
 down there so you'd think ice cream would sell well.  Go figure.

 -Tim


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a 
 northern county.  After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S 
 or E-W.  

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Some believe the North/South designations are designated by Mason-Dixon 
 line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the mason-dixon 
 line.

 Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore 
 southern.

 In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were 
 below freezing Monday night!
 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-
 below-freezing-temperatures/

 -E.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Goshen Peter
Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst
at least?

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ.
 This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart.


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP535.jpg

 Sauce?  We dun need no sauce


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP539.jpg

 But you better bring your knife, or everyone will know you're not from here




 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:12:14 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:

 Hell when I lived in South Carolina they spoke of those uppity damn
 Yankees in Charlotte and in most of NC, haha. I really miss shrimp and
 grits, steampots, fresh steamed crawfish and of course mustard bbq, the
 best hands down.

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com
  wrote:

 The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line.  No Waffle Houses north
 of the M-D line.  I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House to
 IHOP.  Mmmm, pecan waffles...

 I'm not the first to make this observation.  http://www.theonion.com/
 articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,9630/

 Other foods I miss from the South:  Good BBQ, in its many regional
 variants.  Cajun cuisine.  Fresh seafood, especially Gulf shrimp.  Beans 
 rice.  Cheese grits.  Bananas Foster.  Beignets.  Muffalettas.

 I flew as a flight instructor based in Pensacola, FL, and we made fuel
 stops all over the south.  Often, the choice for where to stop was based on
 what local food was available.  Typical phone call: Hello, Lake Charles
 Flight Service?  You're serving Crawfish Etoufee today?  Sweet, we'll be
 there in a couple hours.

 However, when I lived in the south, I couldn't get: Good sweet corn
 (Iowa's is tops).  German food.  And usually their green veggies were
 swimming in pork grease.

 And I never understood how there are probably twice as many ice cream
 shops (per capita) in the North compared to the South?  I mean, it's warm
 down there so you'd think ice cream would sell well.  Go figure.

 -Tim


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a
 northern county.  After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either N-S
 or E-W.

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Some believe the North/South designations are designated by
 Mason-Dixon line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the
 mason-dixon line.

 Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore
 southern.

 In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were
 below freezing Monday night!
 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-bel
 ow-freezing-temperatures/

 -E.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Last time I was in Kansas, they tried to feed me Mexican food.  I go south 
to eat Mexican food.  

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:57:27 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:

 Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst 
 at least?

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 We can really get a fight started if we bring on BBQ.  
 This is Smitty's Market in Lockhart.  


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP535.jpg

 Sauce?  We dun need no sauce  


 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Erin%20II/cP539.jpg

 But you better bring your knife, or everyone will know you're not from 
 here




 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:12:14 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote:

 Hell when I lived in South Carolina they spoke of those uppity damn 
 Yankees in Charlotte and in most of NC, haha. I really miss shrimp and 
 grits, steampots, fresh steamed crawfish and of course mustard bbq, the 
 best hands down. 

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.
 com wrote:

 The Mason-Dixon line, aka the Waffle House line.  No Waffle Houses 
 north of the M-D line.  I'm a Yankee from Iowa, but I prefer Waffle House 
 to IHOP.  Mmmm, pecan waffles...

 I'm not the first to make this observation.  http://www.theonion.com/
 articles/masondixon-line-renamed-ihopwaffle-house-line,9630/

 Other foods I miss from the South:  Good BBQ, in its many regional 
 variants.  Cajun cuisine.  Fresh seafood, especially Gulf shrimp.  Beans  
 rice.  Cheese grits.  Bananas Foster.  Beignets.  Muffalettas.

 I flew as a flight instructor based in Pensacola, FL, and we made fuel 
 stops all over the south.  Often, the choice for where to stop was based 
 on 
 what local food was available.  Typical phone call: Hello, Lake Charles 
 Flight Service?  You're serving Crawfish Etoufee today?  Sweet, we'll be 
 there in a couple hours.

 However, when I lived in the south, I couldn't get: Good sweet corn 
 (Iowa's is tops).  German food.  And usually their green veggies were 
 swimming in pork grease.

 And I never understood how there are probably twice as many ice cream 
 shops (per capita) in the North compared to the South?  I mean, it's warm 
 down there so you'd think ice cream would sell well.  Go figure.

 -Tim


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Texas thing - it's jokes - Canada is up by Dalhart, Ohio is a 
 northern county.  After all, it's 900 miles to get across Texas, either 
 N-S 
 or E-W.  

 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:11:53 AM UTC-6, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Some believe the North/South designations are designated by 
 Mason-Dixon line. As in there's no good sweet tea or grits above the 
 mason-dixon line.

 Maryland is just right below the mason-dixon line, and therefore 
 southern.

 In reality, it doesn't matter as all of 50 states (even Hawaii) were 
 below freezing Monday night!
 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/18/all-50-states-have-bel
 ow-freezing-temperatures/

 -E.

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Tim Gavin
No no no.  Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper BBQ.
Meaning, it's slow smoked.  I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and
Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC.

I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia
style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et al.

Growing up in Iowa, I was introduced to Iowan BBQ.  Meaning:  un-smoked
chicken or beef roast, cooked in a crock pot with syrupy sweet store-bought
(often Cookie's) barbecue sauce, then scooped onto white bread buns like
a sloppy joe.

That is the worst style, by far.  Un-BBQ!  Church lady BBQ!

There are now a couple decent BBQ joints up here, with proper smokers,
usually started by southern emigrants.

But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare sub-standard cuts
of meat and keep them moist.  In Iowa (a top pork producer), we get the
pick of the pig that doesn't need to be smoked.  I never saw all the other
parts (jowls, feet, neck, etc) until I visited the South!

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

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wrote:

 Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst
 at least?



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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:


But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare 
*sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist.


Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard, 
i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade?

http://www.meatgrades.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the 
planet, so I don't have to go very far.  
Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/bambi.jpg  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/abite.jpg

yes, anything after two days on the smoker is wonderful, goat, javelina, 
and it's next to impossible to beat a good sirloin roast off the smoker.  


On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:29:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:
  

  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard* 
 cuts of meat and keep them moist.  


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard, 
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade? 
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Chris Chen
mm

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the
 planet, so I don't have to go very far.
 Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/bambi.jpg

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/abite.jpg

 yes, anything after two days on the smoker is wonderful, goat, javelina,
 and it's next to impossible to beat a good sirloin roast off the smoker.


 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:29:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:


  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard*
 cuts of meat and keep them moist.


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard,
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade?
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Bronson
I like to go to Gates in KC and get a pound an in other words a
sandwich with 1.5 lbs of brisket on it, and also some burnt ends and
baked beans.

KC is hickory sauce BBQ, whereas down here in Texas it's vinegar and
mesquite.  Of course in Carolina it's mustard, and BBQ is pork.

Lockhart is all about BBQ as Ron mentioned, they have like 4 BBQ
places in about a 10 block radius.  I like it because it's less
pretentious than the popular places like the Salt Lick and County Line
in Austin.  Plus you can ride your bike to Lockhart without fearing
for your life.  I would never ride my bike on the roads to the Salt
Lick, too many drunk cowboys in trucks and SUVs, and no shoulder.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote:
 No no no.  Kansas City style is decent; at least it's proper BBQ.
 Meaning, it's slow smoked.  I had some great BBQ at Arthur Bryant's and
 Oklahoma Joe's on my last trip to KC.

 I also love west Texas spicy BBQ brisket, Carolina Gold, tart Virginia
 style, smoky Alabama style, Tenessee dry rub, et al.

 Growing up in Iowa, I was introduced to Iowan BBQ.  Meaning:  un-smoked
 chicken or beef roast, cooked in a crock pot with syrupy sweet store-bought
 (often Cookie's) barbecue sauce, then scooped onto white bread buns like a
 sloppy joe.

 That is the worst style, by far.  Un-BBQ!  Church lady BBQ!

 There are now a couple decent BBQ joints up here, with proper smokers,
 usually started by southern emigrants.

 But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare sub-standard cuts
 of meat and keep them moist.  In Iowa (a top pork producer), we get the pick
 of the pig that doesn't need to be smoked.  I never saw all the other parts
 (jowls, feet, neck, etc) until I visited the South!

 Tim Gavin
 Cedar Rapids, IA

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 wrote:

 Oh no Ron, lets keep it friendly and agree that Kansas style is the worst
 at least?


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Bronson
I've only spit watermelon seeds in Luling.  What bbq places are good there?

I haven't been out to Llano since the 90s.  My first wife had family in
Brady, so we used to go through Llano a few times a year.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the
 planet, so I don't have to go very far.
 Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/bambi.jpg

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/abite.jpg

 yes, anything after two days on the smoker is wonderful, goat, javelina,
 and it's next to impossible to beat a good sirloin roast off the smoker.


 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:29:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:


  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard*
 cuts of meat and keep them moist.


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard,
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade?
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Chris Chen
Llano is okay, Cooper's is there, the brisket is pretty good. But for real
Central Texas BBQ my heart rests in Lockhart, in Smitty's Market.

There's a family feud there, but I love walking back to the pit at
Smitty's. Top notch.

I left Texas in 1999 but maan if you're driving the Austin-Bergstrom
it's just so easy to make a wrong turn and end up in Lockhart, and miss
your flight.

You know? :)

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've only spit watermelon seeds in Luling.  What bbq places are good there?

 I haven't been out to Llano since the 90s.  My first wife had family in
 Brady, so we used to go through Llano a few times a year.

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the
 planet, so I don't have to go very far.
 Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/bambi.jpg

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/abite.jpg

 yes, anything after two days on the smoker is wonderful, goat, javelina,
 and it's next to impossible to beat a good sirloin roast off the smoker.


 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:29:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:


  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare
 *sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist.


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard,
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade?
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Goshen Peter
That is a nice smoker Ron. I have the big boy webber with smoker box
attached inside, not as much capacity as you but ribs out of mine after 7
hours are amazing. We are lucky to have a few smokehouses in the summer
locally, one in riding distance I went to all to often this summer, haha.
On Nov 20, 2014 7:07 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've only spit watermelon seeds in Luling.  What bbq places are good there?

 I haven't been out to Llano since the 90s.  My first wife had family in
 Brady, so we used to go through Llano a few times a year.

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the
 planet, so I don't have to go very far.
 Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/bambi.jpg

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/abite.jpg

 yes, anything after two days on the smoker is wonderful, goat, javelina,
 and it's next to impossible to beat a good sirloin roast off the smoker.


 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:29:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:


  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare
 *sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist.


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard,
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade?
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Eric Platt
Okay, I found Steve's comment extremely funny.  Mainly as my wife has
worked for USDA for 25+ years.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

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  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:


  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare *sub-standard*
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 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard,
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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-20 Thread Ron Mc
Luling City Market and Smittys Market in Lockhart seem to polarize people 
about which is The best - they're both great, but I'm a Smitty's fan, 
partly because I used to eat there when they didn't offer plastic 
silverware - there was a pullpit with a butcher knife on a chain and if you 
didn't bring your knife, you had to cut your meat there.  

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 6:07:51 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I've only spit watermelon seeds in Luling.  What bbq places are good there?

 I haven't been out to Llano since the 90s.  My first wife had family in 
 Brady, so we used to go through Llano a few times a year.

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Between Lockhart, Luling and Llano, we have the 5 best BBQ stop on the 
 planet, so I don't have to go very far.  
 Here's a little of my own, venison flanks and backstrap

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/bambi.jpg  

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/decoy/abite.jpg

 yes, anything after two days on the smoker is wonderful, goat, javelina, 
 and it's next to impossible to beat a good sirloin roast off the smoker.  


 On Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:29:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 11/20/2014 04:18 PM, Tim Gavin wrote:
  

  But then, smoked BBQ is traditionally a method to prepare 
 *sub-standard* cuts of meat and keep them moist.  


 Are you talking about USDA quality and yield grades below Standard, 
 i.e., Commercial grade and Utility, Cutter and Canner grade? 
 http://www.meatgrades.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Mark Reimer
Frigid? That looks absolutely perfect! 15C can't be beat, in my opinion.
I'd way rather go for a cool ride followed with camping in pants and
flannel shirts than sweat it out in the summer heat. Enjoy!

On my side of things, I just picked up a -30C sleeping bag yesterday...
stay tuned for some VERY cold overnight reports [?]

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 Looks like it was an absolutely frigid weekend:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15622928030/in/set-72157647014127884

 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it.

 David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend.  We'll get
 kicked off the list :-).

 dougP

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 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Bill Lindsay
Whatever it takes to keep your fAtlantis out there where it belongs.  That 
bike is BUTCH

On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:39:19 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Frigid? That looks absolutely perfect! 15C can't be beat, in my opinion. 
 I'd way rather go for a cool ride followed with camping in pants and 
 flannel shirts than sweat it out in the summer heat. Enjoy!

 On my side of things, I just picked up a -30C sleeping bag yesterday... 
 stay tuned for some VERY cold overnight reports 

 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:36 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Looks like it was an absolutely frigid weekend: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15622928030/in/set-72157647014127884

 On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript: 
 wrote:

 Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it.  

 David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend.  We'll 
 get kicked off the list :-).

 dougP

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk 
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until 
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Pondero
To the northern folk out there...keep up the great work of getting out 
there in in the weather and document with photos, its quite entertaining. 
 Oh yeah, please don't let that frigid air spill across state boundaries.

Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread David Hays
Did manage to get a banana run in on Univega but had trouble keep ing the 
bike in a straight line and upright and the Big Apples kept finding ice 
underneath and moving sideways 6 unexpectedly.
David Hays
Kenmore, New York
Ridgeway, Ontario

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 To the northern folk out there...keep up the great work of getting out 
 there in in the weather and document with photos, its quite entertaining. 
  Oh yeah, please don't let that frigid air spill across state boundaries.

 Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Mike S
Big ups for the Morrissey reference! 

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 And a strange dust lands on your hands

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think that's the fallout.  

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Why is your sand that light color?

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk 
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until 
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-19 Thread Mike S
And I link to YouTube videos with abandon 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8UToFtrboM. It's Natalie Merchant doing 
a nice job with that, live. 

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 And a strange dust lands on your hands

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think that's the fallout.  

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Why is your sand that light color?

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk 
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until 
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Why is your sand that light color?

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 too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until we get 
 used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Ron Mc
I think that's the fallout.  

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why is your sand that light color?

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk feel 
 too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until we get 
 used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
And a strange dust lands on your hands

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think that's the fallout.  

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Why is your sand that light color?

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk 
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until 
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
What's really concerning is it vaporizes when you breathe it in. Who knows 
*what* that does to us? No one says anything about it, so it must be pretty 
bad! Increased nasal discharge is only the beginning of the horrible 
effects, I'll warrant. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Edwin W
I may be in the south, but today I could not, I say could not get my rear 
brake to work on my Yuba as I was biking my kids to school. I got home and 
fiddled around with it and aha! the brake cable had accumulated a bit of 
water and had frozen. That is not supposed to happen down here.

Cold snappin' in Nashville,

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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread dougP
Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it.  

David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend.  We'll get 
kicked off the list :-).

dougP

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
And a strange dust lands on your hands

I think I detect an epic MOZ-drop there.  Let's see if I can get the next 
line:

and on your face, on your fay-hay-hace...

Bill share some grease tea with me Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 And a strange dust lands on your hands

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think that's the fallout.  

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Why is your sand that light color?

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk 
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until 
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Cancellin' shows in a neighborhood near you!

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:46:21 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 And a strange dust lands on your hands

 I think I detect an epic MOZ-drop there.  Let's see if I can get the next 
 line:

 and on your face, on your fay-hay-hace...

 Bill share some grease tea with me Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:15:10 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 And a strange dust lands on your hands

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:11:27 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:

 I think that's the fallout.  

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:00:41 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Why is your sand that light color?

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk 
 feel too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until 
 we get used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


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[RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread Mobile Bill
Looks like Wednesday morning it will be about 10 to 15 degrees colder on 
the Gulf Coast than it is in Anchorage. Wish y'all could keep it where it 
belongs.

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:51:34 PM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk feel 
 too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until we get 
 used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n7-8t3seVSU/VGuVBTAgyQI/IsE/aychhPcZJew/s1600/15634894729_dd2dc07162_k.jpg



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Re: [RBW] Re: To the southern folk out there

2014-11-18 Thread cyclotourist
Looks like it was an absolutely frigid weekend:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/15622928030/in/set-72157647014127884

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:25 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Looks like a properly shod Atlantis can handle it.

 David, don't you dare post a link to photos from last weekend.  We'll get
 kicked off the list :-).

 dougP

 On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:51:34 AM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Enjoy yourselves down there. But please, don't make us Northern folk feel
 too bad with photos of beaches and short sleeves. At least not until we get
 used to the change. It's going to be a long winter...


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n7-8t3seVSU/VGuVBTAgyQI/IsE/aychhPcZJew/s1600/15634894729_dd2dc07162_k.jpg

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