Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
Patrick, Yes, I’m like you - I use a cheapo $10 small crockpot with a removable crock to heat the wax. I’ve been using Gulf Wax found in any Walmart (in the food section with the instant pudding and jello - go figure) I’ll have to give MSW a try after I use up all the paraffin I have. Thanks for the tip. ~Mark > On Feb 18, 2019, at 14:27, Patrick Moore wrote: > > With plain paraffin, I'd get at most 100 miles before my chains started > making quiet squeaking noises. This is doubled, at least, with Molten. > > Also, the nearby Albertson's stopped selling canning paraffin and it is just > as easy to order Molten as the plain stuff. > > I know others swear by pure paraffin. It certainly does keep grit from > sticking to the chain. > > How do you apply your paraffin? I've never used a double boiler, but I can > vouch for the convenience of a small, cheap crockpot (I think I paid $4.95 or > so at GW). I prefer models with removable ceramic pots, the easier to discard > used wax when it gets too dirty (I've been using the same batch for over a > year now; still good, as far as I can tell.) > >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:00 AM esoterica etc >> wrote: >> >> Patrick, >> >> In what way do you feel Molten Speed Wax is better than pure paraffin wax? I >> started waxing my chains about six months ago and can’t say enough good >> things about it. I’m curious how something so great could get even better. >> Thanks, >> >> ~Mark >> >> >>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 13:46, Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>> I've been using Molten Speed Wax for the last 12-18 months, after having >>> used paraffin and, later, various dry lubes -- forget names; Pro Link was >>> one. >>> >>> The MSW keeps the squeaking away longer than paraffin, but keeps the >>> outside of the chain cleaner (important in sandy, dusty conditions). Using >>> a crockpot and masterlinks, re-waxing is easy. >>> >>> https://moltenspeedwax.com/ >>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:19 AM tc wrote: Patrick, what dry lube do you like? Thanks, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Still 'round the corner there may wait >>> A new road or a secret gate, >>> And though we pass them by today, >>> Tomorrow we may come this way >>> And take the hidden paths that run >>> Towards the Moon or to the Sun. >>> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >>> --- >>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >>> Other professional writing services >>> Expensive! But good. >>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > > > > > Still 'round the corner there may wait > A new road or a secret gate, > And though we pass them by today, > Tomorrow we may come this way > And take the hidden paths that run > Towards the Moon or to the Sun. > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- > You r
Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
With plain paraffin, I'd get at most 100 miles before my chains started making quiet squeaking noises. This is doubled, at least, with Molten. Also, the nearby Albertson's stopped selling canning paraffin and it is just as easy to order Molten as the plain stuff. I know others swear by pure paraffin. It certainly does keep grit from sticking to the chain. How do you apply your paraffin? I've never used a double boiler, but I can vouch for the convenience of a small, cheap crockpot (I think I paid $4.95 or so at GW). I prefer models with removable ceramic pots, the easier to discard used wax when it gets too dirty (I've been using the same batch for over a year now; still good, as far as I can tell.) On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:00 AM esoterica etc wrote: > > Patrick, > > In what way do you feel Molten Speed Wax is better than pure paraffin wax? > I started waxing my chains about six months ago and can’t say enough good > things about it. I’m curious how something so great could get even better. > Thanks, > > ~Mark > > > On Feb 18, 2019, at 13:46, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I've been using Molten Speed Wax for the last 12-18 months, after having > used paraffin and, later, various dry lubes -- forget names; Pro Link was > one. > > The MSW keeps the squeaking away longer than paraffin, but keeps the > outside of the chain cleaner (important in sandy, dusty conditions). Using > a crockpot and masterlinks, re-waxing is easy. > > https://moltenspeedwax.com/ > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:19 AM tc wrote: > >> Patrick, what dry lube do you like? >> >> Thanks, >> Tom >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
Patrick, In what way do you feel Molten Speed Wax is better than pure paraffin wax? I started waxing my chains about six months ago and can’t say enough good things about it. I’m curious how something so great could get even better. Thanks, ~Mark > On Feb 18, 2019, at 13:46, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I've been using Molten Speed Wax for the last 12-18 months, after having used > paraffin and, later, various dry lubes -- forget names; Pro Link was one. > > The MSW keeps the squeaking away longer than paraffin, but keeps the outside > of the chain cleaner (important in sandy, dusty conditions). Using a crockpot > and masterlinks, re-waxing is easy. > > https://moltenspeedwax.com/ > >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:19 AM tc wrote: >> Patrick, what dry lube do you like? >> >> Thanks, >> Tom >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > > > > > Still 'round the corner there may wait > A new road or a secret gate, > And though we pass them by today, > Tomorrow we may come this way > And take the hidden paths that run > Towards the Moon or to the Sun. > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
I've been using Molten Speed Wax for the last 12-18 months, after having used paraffin and, later, various dry lubes -- forget names; Pro Link was one. The MSW keeps the squeaking away longer than paraffin, but keeps the outside of the chain cleaner (important in sandy, dusty conditions). Using a crockpot and masterlinks, re-waxing is easy. https://moltenspeedwax.com/ On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:19 AM tc wrote: > Patrick, what dry lube do you like? > > Thanks, > Tom > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
Patrick, what dry lube do you like? Thanks, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
+1. It took me a number of years riding fixed to learn (more or less) not to fight headwinds. Windy days are actually fun it you treat them right! I'll add a dry chain lube; at least around here, wind means dust to one degree or another. On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 10:15 PM tc wrote: > ... > > PS: windproof outer shell, eye covering (prevents dry eyes and dirt), and > a geometry that allows just enough tuck while still being comfortable and > producing decent power. That’s all I got, nothing earth-shattering. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
The greenway where I ride 90% of the time seems not to follow the weather report to know what it’s supposed to be doing. No matter which direction I’m going, I’m facing a headwind. Just last Sunday I was thinking about how the headwinds seem to follow me like the smoke of a campfire. I was preturbed by it; I mean, I was working too hard to keep my pace! I was having to use that (perfectly good) bend up front on my Wavie bar just to keep my upper body sail from slowing me down further. How stupid. I’d bet it was blowing no more than 12-15 mph. It was a gorgeous day. Saw the first red-headed woodpeckers of the year that day, and realized how perfectly great the bike felt, very natural. Everything was where it needed to be. Why think of pace? Really?! I really like the Deacon’s perspective - whatever’s there, go with it, have fun! Tom PS: windproof outer shell, eye covering (prevents dry eyes and dirt), and a geometry that allows just enough tuck while still being comfortable and producing decent power. That’s all I got, nothing earth-shattering. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
I commuted for years W-E/E-W across town, from the city's low point at the Rio Grande to within 1.5 miles of the Sandia foothills, a gradual climb of some 7 miles along Rt 66 (total 15-16 depending on starting point -- I moved -- and route). This was for by far the most part on fixed gears in the 67" to 70" range. It was always frustrating that the return leg, again 7 miles downhill, was never any faster than the outbound leg; the reason being the afternoon westerlies that blow almost all year round. Of course, the winds only started up about noon. On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY < kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote: > Headwinds- I'll keep my chin up, not looking at the ground, pretending to > go really fast. > Tailwinds- hardly exist. In the winter I've always got headwinds on my way > to work, and they never end up as tailwinds for the ride home. It's the > darndest thing, I suppose I'm affected by something akin to tidal currents. > -Kai > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
Headwinds- I'll keep my chin up, not looking at the ground, pretending to go really fast. Tailwinds- hardly exist. In the winter I've always got headwinds on my way to work, and they never end up as tailwinds for the ride home. It's the darndest thing, I suppose I'm affected by something akin to tidal currents. -Kai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
Ha! Well, theologically speaking, we are all elves (aveternal), so none of us are “mere mortals.” Grin. I don’t know if you want to exclude my response for other reasons, though. Still, I’m cocky enough to offer it. Grin. If it helps, I turned around once because of wind. Climbing Pikes Peak on the QB, I didn’t have a low enough gear for riding into 60mph steady winds while climbing at 13,000. That, plus a wrong lean at the wrong time could have put me in Tennessee by the time I landed. Grin. But on my regular rides, I’ve climbed and descended both with and against up to 60mph sustained winds, though 40 sustained with gusts to 60 is more common. Swirling is the worst, as there is no way to know which way to lean, so I aim for the middle and tuck as low as I go. There is a spot notorious for strong swirling winds, including impressive dust devils. It can be the hardest several hundred yards of a ride when all comes together just right. Grin. Some rides there is a concern that if I don’t pedal hard enough I’ll go east whilst aiming west. “I aimed for Woodland Park, honey, but ended up in Limon. Can you, er, come get me?” Grin. Wind is a great example of how fishnet long johns have transformed my riding. I used to have to choose between being too warm and boil-in-a-bag but with wind block, or too cold. Not now. Today’s ride was 30-38˚F with 40mph winds and a tasty squall blustering through. I wore fishnet long john top, medium weight cotton flannel shirt, scarf (I can adjust air flow as needed, but this time of year it generally keep it snug), and Walz ear flap cap. Warm, dry, and felt like a gentle summer breeze keeping me just right in a light shirt (this is how the fishnet long john system always feels when dialed in for a given condition, be it raining, snowing, calm, blowing, 50, or minus 20. Oh, and be sure to breathe only through your nose. It eliminates that gaspy feeling when the wind creates a vacuum around your mouth and you can’t suck in air. It filters out dust and bits of tin roof, barn wood, an occational lamb or cockapoo that weren’t properly tied down. What else did you ask? “What do you consider a strong wind, and where do you stop riding? ... What's your technique, mental as well as physical? What gear?” Strong: above 40mph. Where do I stop riding. I suppose much over 60mph. I’ve walked in 100mph winds before and that is something to experience once and avoid thereafter. Grin. You wonder my mental technique? Seriously? (I know, I know, you DQ’d me. Tough. Grin.). I ride. Like there isn’t a wind. Same as a hill. It’s just the conditions that are between me and where I’m going, so why let them weigh me down by focusing on them? There are what they are. So what? Nothing I can do but tuck and ride and have fun because of how mind blowingly moronic I am. Grin. How’s that for mental technique, aye? Kind of gave away my physical technique too. Tuck. Elbows too, and head to stem. I relax my hips back, roll my back forward and I micro-stand, because if I stand more than that, I end up in wheat fields. Micro standing takes more arm work than full standing, but still allows for gravity assist via my body weight to aid the downstroke enough that it helps. What gear? Whatever gear I’m in. I generally do not change gear for the wind until significant climbing/altitude is involved, so 72” on the QB, 62” on the Hunqabeam (wet snow necessitates a downshift, powder up to 6” does not). With abandon, Patrick, too daft to notice the wind much anymore, doesn’t seem to matter if I do. Grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ride in the wind -- or not?
Spring winds season beginning; winds today moderately brisk at gusts to 30; but it's also 10* cooler than yesterday, and I was down late last night and up early this morning for work. Ride or not to ride? Actually, this is a discussion question. Me, I've decided not to ride, since I'm tired -- unless I ride to church this evening. But the discussion: How do youse handle wind? What do you consider a strong wind, and where do you stop riding? I know Dn Patrick rides up glaciated mountain trails with gale-force winds while smoking a pipe, but I mean more merely mortal (just came up with that one!) men and mwomen. I've ridden in 35 mph winds, back when it was warm, I was younger, and there were multiple gears; in fact I recall one day when winds were gusting to 45-50 and I was out on my mountain bike: the sorts of wind where you have to stand to make progress on the flats. Now I think twice if winds much exceed 20 -- tho' there is dirt riding in the somewhat protected bosque. I've added middle gears, as well as cruising and bailouts, to the 2 Rivs for this year's winds. What's your technique, mental as well as physical? What gear? Or do you take a walk, or just doze by the fire or over your iPad? Me, I'll take a walk in the bosque. -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
