Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
Mixte Tandem! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gitane-tandem-vintage-lightweight-road-bike-26-034-10-speed-touring-tour-de-france-/281265983671?_trksid=p2056016.l4276 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jonathan Poor jpoorra...@aol.com wrote: http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/tandem/322 I have a Bike Friday Family Tandem. It is a twenty inch wheel bike, and the small wheels lets you have a lot of flexibility -- It works as well with two adults as it does with very little kids in back -- and without the clamp on kid tandem crank**. I rode it to school with my 4 year old daughter as the stoker -- (now 13!) and I've also been the stoker myself, with my brother up front. It is technically a folding bike, but I've rarely taken it apart. It goes nicely up on a Yakima rack on my Volvo 240 wagon. ** for really little stokers, I have crank shorteners which thread in where the pedal usually goes, and gives you three shorter options for the pedals. Another cool thing is the use of a Sachs 3x7 rear hub, which makes a front derailleur unnecessary, and lets you run the timing chain on the right side, connecting the stoker's small ring to a right side crank in front. -- no need for tandem specific cranks. Also very nice to be able to downshift the internal gear 3spd hub when stopped. I currently use it mostly to haul groceries with a burley trailer. Bike Friday even makes a Family Tandem Triple! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
I had one of those Gitane mixte tandems that I used in my early kid-crank tandem experiments. I wouldn't, under any circumstances, ride it with my wife or any other adult. To say that it had disconcerting flexiness with me and my then 4-yo daughter would be an understatement. On Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:50:12 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Mixte Tandem! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gitane-tandem-vintage-lightweight-road-bike-26-034-10-speed-touring-tour-de-france-/281265983671?_trksid=p2056016.l4276 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jonathan Poor jpoor...@aol.comjavascript: wrote: http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/tandem/322 I have a Bike Friday Family Tandem. It is a twenty inch wheel bike, and the small wheels lets you have a lot of flexibility -- It works as well with two adults as it does with very little kids in back -- and without the clamp on kid tandem crank**. I rode it to school with my 4 year old daughter as the stoker -- (now 13!) and I've also been the stoker myself, with my brother up front. It is technically a folding bike, but I've rarely taken it apart. It goes nicely up on a Yakima rack on my Volvo 240 wagon. ** for really little stokers, I have crank shorteners which thread in where the pedal usually goes, and gives you three shorter options for the pedals. Another cool thing is the use of a Sachs 3x7 rear hub, which makes a front derailleur unnecessary, and lets you run the timing chain on the right side, connecting the stoker's small ring to a right side crank in front. -- no need for tandem specific cranks. Also very nice to be able to downshift the internal gear 3spd hub when stopped. I currently use it mostly to haul groceries with a burley trailer. Bike Friday even makes a Family Tandem Triple! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
Yeah, I somehow don't see the words lightweight and tandem belonging together. I know they don't have to be tanks but still. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I had one of those Gitane mixte tandems that I used in my early kid-crank tandem experiments. I wouldn't, under any circumstances, ride it with my wife or any other adult. To say that it had disconcerting flexiness with me and my then 4-yo daughter would be an understatement. On Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:50:12 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Mixte Tandem! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gitane-tandem-vintage- lightweight-road-bike-26-034-10-speed-touring-tour-de- france-/281265983671?_trksid=p2056016.l4276 On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Jonathan Poor jpoor...@aol.com wrote: http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/tandem/322 I have a Bike Friday Family Tandem. It is a twenty inch wheel bike, and the small wheels lets you have a lot of flexibility -- It works as well with two adults as it does with very little kids in back -- and without the clamp on kid tandem crank**. I rode it to school with my 4 year old daughter as the stoker -- (now 13!) and I've also been the stoker myself, with my brother up front. It is technically a folding bike, but I've rarely taken it apart. It goes nicely up on a Yakima rack on my Volvo 240 wagon. ** for really little stokers, I have crank shorteners which thread in where the pedal usually goes, and gives you three shorter options for the pedals. Another cool thing is the use of a Sachs 3x7 rear hub, which makes a front derailleur unnecessary, and lets you run the timing chain on the right side, connecting the stoker's small ring to a right side crank in front. -- no need for tandem specific cranks. Also very nice to be able to downshift the internal gear 3spd hub when stopped. I currently use it mostly to haul groceries with a burley trailer. Bike Friday even makes a Family Tandem Triple! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
I use an old, Tom Ritchey road tandem. I think it is from about 1980. It is painted metallic berry (Dupont Imron) and is fillet brazed. It is a truly, stunning bike. I got it from the second owner on craigslist in Princeton NJ. I have it set up for my12 yr old son as the stoker and myself as captian. Great bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
http://www.bikefriday.com/bicycles/tandem/322 I have a Bike Friday Family Tandem. It is a twenty inch wheel bike, and the small wheels lets you have a lot of flexibility -- It works as well with two adults as it does with very little kids in back -- and without the clamp on kid tandem crank**. I rode it to school with my 4 year old daughter as the stoker -- (now 13!) and I've also been the stoker myself, with my brother up front. It is technically a folding bike, but I've rarely taken it apart. It goes nicely up on a Yakima rack on my Volvo 240 wagon. ** for really little stokers, I have crank shorteners which thread in where the pedal usually goes, and gives you three shorter options for the pedals. Another cool thing is the use of a Sachs 3x7 rear hub, which makes a front derailleur unnecessary, and lets you run the timing chain on the right side, connecting the stoker's small ring to a right side crank in front. -- no need for tandem specific cranks. Also very nice to be able to downshift the internal gear 3spd hub when stopped. I currently use it mostly to haul groceries with a burley trailer. Bike Friday even makes a Family Tandem Triple! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
I have seen a lot of men spend a lot of futile money trying to get their wives on a tandem. As others have mentioned, the fit issues are often a real compromise (at best). Unless you're willing to pony up $5000-plus for a custom, your odds of finding a tandem that is comfortable for both of you is pretty slim. You can buy a quality used tandem for a song (from a formerly enthusiastic husband), and then spend many years and thousands of dollars trying to get it to fit. If you do that, you'll probably have to let go of your Rivendell aesthetic sensibilities and open yourself up to some new options for handlebars, etc. Tandems are not something you can dive into casually or cheaply and expect good results. Both husband and wife need to be fully on-board with the idea. If the stoker/wife is lukewarm on the idea, no amount of enthusiasm from the captain will make it work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
back when my then-riding buddy and I were out riding all the time, friends of ours upgraded to a Santana and put their big red Cannondale up for sale. We looked at each other, thought about it, and he bought it. The first test ride around the Fairmount loop was equal parts of fun and scary - he was much more into downhill speed than I ever was. Took us a couple of outings to get used to it, and each other on the tandem (ride around Hagg Lake). Figuring out how to stand was fun. Not as easy as you'd think. Then we took it on a century. Many centuries. Two-day event rides. Seattle to Portland in a day. We were both strong singles riders, which probably helped. Much ongoing negotiation on how fast we were going to descend. Much crabbiness on my part when he didn't call all the bumps on the Burke-Gilman trail. It was more fun than not fun, but it did take some work. One fun memory - me calling out the turns through Vancouver BC at the finish of RSVP, with a whole swarm of pilot fish! His wife later thanked me for training him how to be a good captain. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
I have an early 90s Burley Rumba and the price was right (under $2000), made in the US. and my wife and I ridden it regularly since then on tours, centuries, and club rides. Lots of upgrades (Noodles on the front, Dreams on the back), change to Campy Ergo since the original Shimano STI were terrible. I use a Brooks seat on the front and the drag brake is heavy but indestructable. Been running Ruffy Tuffys with no problems. So all in all, we've gotten our money's worth. On Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:43:24 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: I have a 1993 Burley tandem with cantilevers. I am running 700x32 and upgraded the bike to a freehub setup and 9 speed. Also got longer seatposts, a threaded stem extension and 48cm noodles. We enjoy this bike but I wouldn't recommend it if you have other options. It's very heavy, probably 50lbs dry, and it handles like an old truck. I've had some white knuckle moments with it for sure. Easily the worst handling bike I have ever ridden. But it's the tandem we have, so we ride it. On Jan 30, 2014 12:39 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife? I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord willing. They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in. I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do that on a tandem. Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are lighter materials in order for a frame of that size? Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
Yes. I'm surprised Eunice didn't mention this. Most stokers are more sensitive to a bikes suspension than they are on singles. The pilot needs to warn when any bumps are coming up and most stokers like a sprung post or saddle. That said, don't give up. Tandems are great fun and most stokers prefer their position because it gives them a lot of freedom to look around take pictures, as Eunice posts illustrates. Michael On Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:53:02 PM UTC-5, Larry Powers wrote: We ride a Bilenky lugged steel tandem. We also have an aluminum Cannondale and my wife (stoker) says the steel bike is much more comfortable. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:39:50 -0800 From: john1...@gmail.com javascript: To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems? And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife? I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord willing. They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in. I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do that on a tandem. Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are lighter materials in order for a frame of that size? Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
I haven't been on a tandem bike for over six months so I'd forgotten all about that. The bike friday does have something called thudbuster, and I liked that. I used a sprung saddle for a while and hated it, but that might have to do with the actual saddle/seatpost than anything else (it kept slipping down and tipping back and forth). And yes, the bumps can be worse on a tandem- which is why I usually paid more attention to the road than the captain (our deal was he talked to folks in group rides, and I looked at the map and the road). It becomes less obvious on more frequently traveled roads b/c I got used to where all the bumps were and muscle memory kicked in. :) -E. On Friday, January 31, 2014 5:30:27 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: Yes. I'm surprised Eunice didn't mention this. Most stokers are more sensitive to a bikes suspension than they are on singles. The pilot needs to warn when any bumps are coming up and most stokers like a sprung post or saddle. That said, don't give up. Tandems are great fun and most stokers prefer their position because it gives them a lot of freedom to look around take pictures, as Eunice posts illustrates. Michael On Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:53:02 PM UTC-5, Larry Powers wrote: We ride a Bilenky lugged steel tandem. We also have an aluminum Cannondale and my wife (stoker) says the steel bike is much more comfortable. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:39:50 -0800 From: john1...@gmail.com To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems? And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife? I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord willing. They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in. I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do that on a tandem. Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are lighter materials in order for a frame of that size? Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife? I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord willing. They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in. I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do that on a tandem. Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are lighter materials in order for a frame of that size? Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
I have a 1993 Burley tandem with cantilevers. I am running 700x32 and upgraded the bike to a freehub setup and 9 speed. Also got longer seatposts, a threaded stem extension and 48cm noodles. We enjoy this bike but I wouldn't recommend it if you have other options. It's very heavy, probably 50lbs dry, and it handles like an old truck. I've had some white knuckle moments with it for sure. Easily the worst handling bike I have ever ridden. But it's the tandem we have, so we ride it. On Jan 30, 2014 12:39 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife? I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord willing. They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in. I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do that on a tandem. Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are lighter materials in order for a frame of that size? Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
We ride a Bilenky lugged steel tandem. We also have an aluminum Cannondale and my wife (stoker) says the steel bike is much more comfortable. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:39:50 -0800 From: john11.2...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems? And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife? I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord willing. They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in. I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do that on a tandem. Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are lighter materials in order for a frame of that size? Wonder if RBW will ever go tandem, not that I could afford it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
