Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
Ack - that's a good point. Are basic chain tools like the CT-5 being reconfigured to work for 9/10/11 speed chains? I haven't progressed past 8 speed (and don't plan to). I wonder if I should start to stockpile chain tools... Hugh old Flynn Newburyport, MA On May 5, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Matthew J wrote: Be sure to carry the right chain tool. I stopped to help a cyclist in distress once. His skinny (maybe 10 speed? possibly 11) chain had snapped. My conventional chain tool sort of worked after about 20 minutes of tries. We broke about 4 additional links before getting the chain together well enough that he did not have to walk what he said was about 10 miles to his car. On Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:09:44 AM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Have used my chain tool more times than I care to remember, mostly from mountain biking (where I've had a few snapped links or pretzeled derailleurs)... Never travel without one. On Saturday, May 3, 2014 9:46:38 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: If you have a broken link you need the chain tool to remove the pin(s) before you can even install a power link. It's not something I pack on the road (where power links usually wear out first), but offroad, there are more things that can hit your chain and produce a random failure. On Friday, May 2, 2014 11:09:56 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote: So many of you have mentioned carrying a chain tool in even a fairly minimalist kit. I don't want to jinx myself, but I have never needed one on the road. What are the common problems that require a chain tool? Busted link? From what? Learning slowly, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
Anton Wrote: Here's another scenario, which did happen to someone in a group ride that I was part of-- her rear derailleur jammed and self-destructed. She didn't have a chain tool, but someone in the group did, and with it she removed a bunch of links and made the bike a single-speed for the rest of the ride. Couldn't have done it without a chain tool... I believe I was on that ride with you Anton, and it's worth noting that the rider in question did not carry a chain tool herself, and that she needed to go through several multi-tool chain tools offered to her by riders in our group to find one that actually worked. I now make a point to carry a dedicated chain tool like the Park CT-5. The CT-5 is small enough to fit in any kit and works much better than any multi-tool chain tool I've ever tried. Hugh Chain Brute Flynn Newburyport, MA On May 3, 2014, at 12:34 AM, Anton Tutter wrote: After speaking to some mechanics and others more knowledgeable than myself, the consensus is that my incident with a chain pin coming loose wasn't at all common. But it's a a data point. Here's another scenario, which did happen to someone in a group ride that I was part of-- her rear derailleur jammed and self-destructed. She didn't have a chain tool, but someone in the group did, and with it she removed a bunch of links and made the bike a single-speed for the rest of the ride. Couldn't have done it without a chain tool... Anton On Friday, May 2, 2014 9:09:56 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote: So many of you have mentioned carrying a chain tool in even a fairly minimalist kit. I don't want to jinx myself, but I have never needed one on the road. What are the common problems that require a chain tool? Busted link? From what? Learning slowly, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I used to carry a CrankBros multi-with chain tool but the chaintool bit broke on the trail when I was trying to fix a guys chain. I carry a separate Park mini chain tool now. Not as convenient but hopefully more reliable. Steve On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:57 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Joan, I've become a fan of the Crank Bros. Multi-tool with flask: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=14674category=214 Particularly nice not to have to carry a separate chain breaker. Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net Apr 28 08:28PM -0500 I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I guess it's easy to leave off details in the inventory. The Ibu is a given, along with a Rivendell coin purse full of fasteners. On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:39:07 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: My toolkit for anything linger than my daily commute: Park multitool (or any multitool) One tube One patch kit Tire lever Pump Couple pieces of tyvek Zip ties Latex gloves Couple of alcohol wipes Two spare chain links and pins (on my last ride I had a Shimano chain pin come loose, disabling the bike) Not so much tools as first aid: Two band aids Two tabs of Ibuprofen and Tylenol Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
Ron, ...Rivendell coin purse full of fasteners Brilliant. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
You had me at flask, but you lost me when I realized it was just a case for the tool. I figured some warming sauce may be a good part of any kit. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:57 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Joan, I've become a fan of the Crank Bros. Multi-tool with flask: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=14674category=214 Particularly nice not to have to carry a separate chain breaker. Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net Apr 28 08:28PM -0500 I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
it's a vicious circle - you carry the rum, you need the cigar, etc. On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:18:39 AM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote: You had me at flask, but you lost me when I realized it was just a case for the tool. I figured some warming sauce may be a good part of any kit. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:57 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: Joan, I've become a fan of the Crank Bros. Multi-tool with flask: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=14674category=214 Particularly nice not to have to carry a separate chain breaker. Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. Joan Oppel oppe...@verizon.net javascript: Apr 28 08:28PM -0500 I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:02:37 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: it's a vicious circle - you carry the rum, you need the cigar, etc. Isn't that why S24O's are in the tool kit? Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I use that crank bros tool as well and like it (I don't use the flask). Dan Abelson On Apr 30, 2014 1:43 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: That's the same Crank Brothers set that I carry. It's a pretty nice set of tools. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:57 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Joan, I've become a fan of the Crank Bros. Multi-tool with flask: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=14674category=214 Particularly nice not to have to carry a separate chain breaker. Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net Apr 28 08:28PM -0500 I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I've put together a dedicated kit for each bike, so I don't have to think before leaving the house. Each kit includes: Multi tool with real, usable, allen wrenches The Park AWS-11 is a favorite, but any set of basic metric hardware store wrenches like this will do: http://www.amazon.com/7-PC-METRIC-FOLDING-ALLEN-WRENCH/dp/B004HM9IKK/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8qid=1398827415sr=8-5keywords=metric+folding+allen+wrench+set) Chain Tool A real one. Park CT-5C or Rivoli are favorites, but I've used others. I won't cary a multi-took chain tool. No matter how light they make them, the all weight too much as I've never seen one that actually works. 8mm allen adapter for 6mm allen wrench for crank bolts. I've never needed to use this tool, but when the day comes BAM! I'll be the guy who planned well for 30 years and THAT will be my time to shine. 8 and 10mm box wrenches Small Screwdriver With reversible slotted/philips tip Tire levers Spare tube Wrapped nicely in a spare cloth so I have something to clean my hands with when the tube swap is complete. Patch Kit Only the smallest dime size patches will do. Collection of M5 Bolts in case something shakes loose. Old Power Bar wrapper to be used as tire boot if needed. Adds no appreciable weight and I've never needed it. Hugh Flynn Newburyport, MA On Apr 29, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: I've actually evolved kinda/sorta the same kit for each bike. It took a while before I figured out the causal link between leaving a specific tool in another bike bag and having that particularly part break... These usually are centered around a multi-tool of some sort - I've got Ritchey, Crank Bros., a Park and one other I can't recall across several different bikes. I really think most of these are of about the same quality. The only thing which matters is they must have a chain tool and the appropriate hex sizes - which is really only three if you cover the crankset. Generally, I don't use any wrench bits. With that, I also have a small 8/10 Park wrench for adjusting brakes (or for the oddball bike which uses a 9, it has that one). On fendered bikes, I usually have the socket Y-wrench which I bought a few of over the years. A much faster way to adjust SKS style fenders. Two tubes. Two patch kits. It's a ritual. A talisman. Always have about 3 inches of chain. Singlespeed/fixed leaves you no ability to adapt to a snapped link. And this is more for regular rides. On multi-day outings, I'll add in a small headset/pedal wrench pair (the one Park used to make which could be mounted under your water bottle) and maybe a BB tool or anything which is reasonably esoteric and not otherwise mimicable. Zip ties x several. I tend to steer away from accessories which have tiny hex nuts or similar idiosyncrasies. I usually have a latex glove pair in there, as well as a small bottle of waterless hand cleaner. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
So disappointed... Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: You had me at flask, but you lost me when I realized it was just a case for the tool. I figured some warming sauce may be a good part of any kit. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:57 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Joan, I've become a fan of the Crank Bros. Multi-tool with flask: http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=14674category=214 Particularly nice not to have to carry a separate chain breaker. Paul Germain Midlothian, Va. Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net Apr 28 08:28PM -0500 I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I like the Park MT 1. No chain tool, but I've needed a chain tool only 2X that I can remember in 50 years of riding. I've ruined cogs or chainrings as often! In addition to the Park tool I carry at least 2 tubes -- containing Stan's for the Fargo and the Ram, and in addition patch kits for the two customs that don't have Stan's in the tubes (the Kojaks and, surprisingly, the very skinny, light, HP 23 mm Pro Race 3s don't get nearly as many flats as the tires on the two other bikes). And of course tire levers (Quik Stiks where the tires are loose enough for them), tire boots, saddle cover, a tiny little pocket knife, and on the 2 night bikes extra AAA batteries for auxiliary lights. All the kit, including the small HP Lezyne for the gofast, fits into a small saddle wedge. Pumps: HpXs for the Ram and '03 Riv, Lezyne minis for the Fargo and '99 gofast, though I might swap to a full size pump on the last. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
WRT to a chain tool: forgot to say that I use masterlinks on all 4 chains, which largely removes the danger of chain breaking caused by operator error. On the 2 X my chain came apart or started knocking the rd cage plates it was because I'd re-assembled the separated links incorrectly. With master links there is no danger of such botched reassembly. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I like the Park MT 1. No chain tool, but I've needed a chain tool only 2X that I can remember in 50 years of riding. I've ruined cogs or chainrings as often! In addition to the Park tool I carry at least 2 tubes -- containing Stan's for the Fargo and the Ram, and in addition patch kits for the two customs that don't have Stan's in the tubes (the Kojaks and, surprisingly, the very skinny, light, HP 23 mm Pro Race 3s don't get nearly as many flats as the tires on the two other bikes). And of course tire levers (Quik Stiks where the tires are loose enough for them), tire boots, saddle cover, a tiny little pocket knife, and on the 2 night bikes extra AAA batteries for auxiliary lights. All the kit, including the small HP Lezyne for the gofast, fits into a small saddle wedge. Pumps: HpXs for the Ram and '03 Riv, Lezyne minis for the Fargo and '99 gofast, though I might swap to a full size pump on the last. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I just posted a pic of my current set-up on Flickr: http://tinyurl.com/n7wr3as I usually also have a few links of spare chain in there but not sure where I put it at the moment. My kit's been in flux as I've been switching around bikes lately. Best, Lee On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: WRT to a chain tool: forgot to say that I use masterlinks on all 4 chains, which largely removes the danger of chain breaking caused by operator error. On the 2 X my chain came apart or started knocking the rd cage plates it was because I'd re-assembled the separated links incorrectly. With master links there is no danger of such botched reassembly. On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I like the Park MT 1. No chain tool, but I've needed a chain tool only 2X that I can remember in 50 years of riding. I've ruined cogs or chainrings as often! In addition to the Park tool I carry at least 2 tubes -- containing Stan's for the Fargo and the Ram, and in addition patch kits for the two customs that don't have Stan's in the tubes (the Kojaks and, surprisingly, the very skinny, light, HP 23 mm Pro Race 3s don't get nearly as many flats as the tires on the two other bikes). And of course tire levers (Quik Stiks where the tires are loose enough for them), tire boots, saddle cover, a tiny little pocket knife, and on the 2 night bikes extra AAA batteries for auxiliary lights. All the kit, including the small HP Lezyne for the gofast, fits into a small saddle wedge. Pumps: HpXs for the Ram and '03 Riv, Lezyne minis for the Fargo and '99 gofast, though I might swap to a full size pump on the last. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I thought I would reply to the tool choice thread. I recently got some of the Fix It Sticks and was quite impressed - and they are made in the USA. www.fixitsticks.com I have them in stock - if you want give me a call Regards, Bruce Gordon www.bgcycles.com www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com (707) 762-5601 On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I carry enough to cover the bolts I have on the bike . Also, 2 tubes and a repair kit, and my all time favorite the Quick stick for removal. A chain tool . The Park MT-1 is decent tool, but I went thru 3 or 4 of them from REI to find one that the hex ends were properly fitting ! When is 4mm not 4mm ? Seek this tool, and you'll know ! Some of the hex fittings were very sloppy fitting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I find room for a spoke wrench and a spare master link too. On Monday, April 28, 2014, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote: I'm in the market for a new multi-tool for on-bike repairs and adjustments. I don't think I need all of the 26 or 27 items I currently carry. The ones I've used most have been the allen wrenches in various sizes up to 8, the chain tool, the 10mm box wrench (I think 10, it's whatever size adjusts the nuts on fenders), and very occasionally the flat screwdriver. The chain tool is a definite keeper, I've used it a number of times to help friends (and once for myself). I thought there was a discussion a few months ago about on-bike tools, but a search of the archives didn't turn up anything. Thanks! Joan PS -I also carry a couple of zip ties, duct tape wrapped around a piece of cardboard (has seen various uses including to keep bandages on), couple of cut-up segments of old tires and plastic tire levers/patch kit/tube. On a tour, a few other bits and pieces in case of missing bolts, broken chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I have a tool set for each of my bikes inspired by Tool Kit B: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-003/000.html One of my kits has a Ritchey CPR 14 as shown, the rest have the smaller CPR 9. They fit into an Altoids-type can very well. In addition to the tools shown, I have a tiny Swiss Army folding pliers thingy in one tool kit and in another I carry a small jackknife that was my Dad's. There is a surprising amount of stuff that can be put into an Altoids can. FWIW Tool Kit A is Jobst Brandt's. I have several Cool Tools that I have picked up over the years and would be my tool of choice when touring. It's a pretty complete package that can do most things that need to be done on the road with a bike. One of the comments on the Pardo site is very important: the best bike tool is preventive maintenance- periodically inspect the bike for things that are wearing out or breaking. The best bike part failure is the one that doesn't happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
Each bike has either a muti-tool or a Park WTK-1 kit. Then in the handlebar bag is usually a Park MT-1. Try to also have a small Swiss Army knife on each bike. Had been carrying 1 tube per bike, but after a recent spate of flats, may go up to two. Also, all the kits have a chain tool of some sort. Have twice helped folks with busted/twisted chains to get back on the road. Yes, I'm way over-prepared. For 99 percent of my riding could get by with the MT-1 and a tire lever. Still prefer the mental safety net of the extra tools. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: I have a tool set for each of my bikes inspired by Tool Kit B: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-003/000.html One of my kits has a Ritchey CPR 14 as shown, the rest have the smaller CPR 9. They fit into an Altoids-type can very well. In addition to the tools shown, I have a tiny Swiss Army folding pliers thingy in one tool kit and in another I carry a small jackknife that was my Dad's. There is a surprising amount of stuff that can be put into an Altoids can. FWIW Tool Kit A is Jobst Brandt's. I have several Cool Tools that I have picked up over the years and would be my tool of choice when touring. It's a pretty complete package that can do most things that need to be done on the road with a bike. One of the comments on the Pardo site is very important: the best bike tool is preventive maintenance- periodically inspect the bike for things that are wearing out or breaking. The best bike part failure is the one that doesn't happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
My toolkit for anything linger than my daily commute: Park multitool (or any multitool) One tube One patch kit Tire lever Pump Couple pieces of tyvek Zip ties Latex gloves Couple of alcohol wipes Two spare chain links and pins (on my last ride I had a Shimano chain pin come loose, disabling the bike) Not so much tools as first aid: Two band aids Two tabs of Ibuprofen and Tylenol Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
i simply note all the fastener sizes on my bike and carry the appropriate tool for each. that includes spoke wrench, chain tool and spare link, tire boot, and 8mm square taper crank nut loose allen keys are preferred over the multi-toll variety The #1 Worst Carb Ever? Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar #40;Don#39;t Eat This!#41; http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/535f03c895e293c84baest01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] On-bike tools: what is your choice or favorite?
I really like carrying one of the triangle park tools hex wrenches. it's lightweight and easier to use for most things than a loose allen key, at least i find that to be the case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.