[TANKS] Re: UK Announce: Battle, 11th July

[Pureteenlard]

I shall be there with a Valentine - hopefully a mobile Valentine - and
possibly a supply vehicle or conceivably two (but don'y hold your
breath)

Pete.

On Jun 8, 10:35 pm, Chris Malton  wrote:
> To all UK battlers,
>         You are now being made aware that a battle will take place on July 
> 11th
> on private grounds - participants should make themselves known (with
> asset list and declared allegiance where appropriate) to the Chelmsford
> Challenger Crew (C3) by replying to this message and as indication of
> your acceptance into the battle further details will be emailed to you.
>
> Primarily, I am declaring war on the Funky Tank Foundry and its members,
> and there is no doubt there can only be one winner.
>
> --
> Chris Malton
>
> Assets:
>   |-|---|-|       _
>   | |-o-| |      /     \
> |--|---|--|    /  o    \
> |  |---|  |   ||===||
>     FA006         T027
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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Mike Mangus]

Hi!  Welcome to the group.  :)

 If you don't want to use a web photo album like Flicker or simply attached the 
pics to your emails to this group, then perhaps you can ask Frank P to make a 
spot in the Pending Designation section of the RC Tank Combat web site.

 Frankly though, it might be easier to use one of the web photo albums.  :)

 After your tank is moving on it's down power, just video it, upload it to 
youtube, and post the link here and ask for designation.  

Mike





From: Suprtrpr17674 
To: R/C Tank Combat 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:46:55 AM
Subject: [TANKS] Tank Build


Hey I'm new to the group but I'm about half done with my 1/4 scale
Bulldog tank.  My question is how do I post my build on the website.



  
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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[jvragu47]

Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
Coming to Gettysburg?

John

On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank combat 
> battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high at the 
> top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits though.  
> It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only advantage it 
> would have is speed and modestly small size.
>
>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read, it was 
> the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and ability to 
> travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The Scorpion's 
> ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human 
> standing on foot.  
>
>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than the basic 
> dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman first!
>
> Mike
>
> 
> From: Clark Ward Jr 
> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>
> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the Falklands/Malvinas
> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
>
> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
> get the Sherman built.  :)
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[TANKS] Re: Anyone have any treadmill belts?

[Don Shankin]

Derek,

That'd be great, thanks!

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:

> Don,
>
> We have a small gym in town.  Maybe they have some.  I'll see if I can
> swing by during work one of these days this week.
>
> Derek
> T065
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Don Shankin  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I'm making some progress with my Abrams, and I'd like to begin work on the
>> tracks.  Does anyone have a sufficient amount of treadmill belt that they'd
>> be willing to sell?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Don
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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[TANKS] can't make the battle this weekend

[OdysseySlipways]

sorry guys, i was hoping to have been there this weekend to see everyone  
and everything, but i have a date with a group of people (and the local radio 
 station making this possible) who are runner ups for winning a 2009 Suzuki 
 Equator truck (2 door, 2 wheel drive, manual 5spd). there will be 1000 of 
us  there hoping to win it, but i have a better chance at the truck than the 
 lottery registration for the 1000 runner ups is between 10 and noon 
when the  fun (not) begins (the 1000 have to register then and be present to 
the  drawing).
 
because of being one of the 1000, i had put pretty much everything on hold  
(spending) until after this weekend - have to come up with taxes and such 
if i  where to win it.
 
if i don't, i'll be back to spending on the tank again.
 
anyway, it looks like it'll be a very nice weekend weather wise (but  that 
can change overnight), so there shouldn't be too many tank meltdowns or  
deep fried drivers.
 
make sure to take lots of video and pictures!
 
Chris,
_Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) 

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[TANKS] Re: Canon design, gas pressure and the likes

[Adams, Kevin]

Dwell time does affect velocity.  Paintball velocity adjustment is accomplished 
by two methods.  One is adjustment of the operating pressure (via a regulator) 
and the other is adjustment of dwell.  Paintball markers advertized as "Low 
pressure operation" achieve reasonable muzzle velocities by high flow rates 
through their valves and long dwell (valve open) time.  I would agree that 
having the valve open for a full second would be a waste, but this is only 
because the projectile should be long down range by then and no longer affected 
by your propellant.

 

From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Måne
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:52 AM
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TANKS] Re: Canon design, gas pressure and the likes

 

I don't know if I can help very much, but what I do know is that the time the 
valve is open does not effect velocity. If the valve is open for a tenth of a 
second or a whole second, it will not effect the paintball's speed as long as 
the pressure is the same. And about the compressor, if you were to use that, 
will the pump have to constantly run? If not, as the gun is fired, the pressure 
would reduce and the compressor would have to fill up so that the reservoir 
provides enough pressure. Will this be computerized or metered somehow?

 

-Mike M

2009/6/6 Modena 


As has been discussed previously markers down-under are a problem,
this means we need to home-make a "marker". This isn't all bad as it
gives a chance to make things fit nicely as required into whatever
turret/chassis you may be working on.

I'm looking at either going the on-board compressor route like Chris
Barthelson has done (see T030), or going with a HPA bottle. So I have
a couple of questions which people with experience in pulling markers
apart should be able to answer.

This is all my understanding from limited reading on the subject,
some, most or all may be wrong! A C02 system runs at about 600-800psi,
HPA runs at about 3000psi, In either case I believe you need about
120psi to actually fire a paintball with a reservoir-like setup, but
on a real marker w/C02 is it just using the 600psi and only opening
the valve for a tiny amount of time? I'm guessing HPA would be
similar, with the regulator bringing it down to a pressure similar to
that of C02.

I guess what I need to know is, what pressure, volume and length of
time do I need to shoot gas in order to fire the ball? E.g. do we use
600psi for a smaller amount of time, or 120psi and a larger volume?

Chris B has provided me with some good test data based on his 120psi
compressor setup, but with C02 or regulated HPA I'm hoping to be able
to get some pressure/volume data or advice out of commercial marker
use?

Ben





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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Doug Conn]

Is this correct ? I thought all support vehicles had a 'one hit anywhere'
defensive rating regardless of construction.

- Doug

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From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of jvragu47
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 AM
To: R/C Tank Combat
Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated


Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
Coming to Gettysburg?

John

On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank combat
battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high at the
top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits though.
 It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only advantage it
would have is speed and modestly small size.
>
>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read, it was
the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and ability to
travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The Scorpion's
ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human
standing on foot.  
>
>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than the
basic dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman
first!
>
> Mike
>
> 
> From: Clark Ward Jr 
> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>
> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the Falklands/Malvinas
> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
>
> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
> get the Sherman built.  :)


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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Clark Ward Jr]

Technically, only a 'Tank' gets the immunity to hits from the front...

But the defensive rating table doesn't specify which type of vehicle,
it only counts armor thickness.  So, an FV103 presumably having
between 1mm and 34mm of armor, gets 2 hits.

On 6/9/09, Doug Conn  wrote:
>
>
> Is this correct ? I thought all support vehicles had a 'one hit anywhere'
> defensive rating regardless of construction.
>
>   - Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of jvragu47
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 AM
> To: R/C Tank Combat
> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>
>
> Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
> you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
> Coming to Gettysburg?
>
> John
>
> On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
>>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank combat
> battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high at the
> top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits though.
>  It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only advantage it
> would have is speed and modestly small size.
>>
>>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read, it was
> the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and ability to
> travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The Scorpion's
> ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human
> standing on foot.
>>
>>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than the
> basic dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman
> first!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> 
>> From: Clark Ward Jr 
>> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
>> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>>
>> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
>> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the Falklands/Malvinas
>> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
>> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
>>
>> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
>> get the Sherman built.  :)
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Clark in Georgia
M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Derek Engelhaupt]

I think John was referring to if it was used as a Scorpion tank that it
would get two hits and frontal immunity, but I'm sure he can clarify that.
As far as I know, all supply vehicles still get one hit to kill regardless
of armor rating.  Clarification?

Derek
T065

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:

>
> Technically, only a 'Tank' gets the immunity to hits from the front...
>
> But the defensive rating table doesn't specify which type of vehicle,
> it only counts armor thickness.  So, an FV103 presumably having
> between 1mm and 34mm of armor, gets 2 hits.
>
> On 6/9/09, Doug Conn  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is this correct ? I thought all support vehicles had a 'one hit anywhere'
> > defensive rating regardless of construction.
> >
> >   - Doug
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of jvragu47
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 AM
> > To: R/C Tank Combat
> > Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
> >
> >
> > Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
> > you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
> > Coming to Gettysburg?
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
> >>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank
> combat
> > battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high at
> the
> > top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits
> though.
> >  It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only advantage
> it
> > would have is speed and modestly small size.
> >>
> >>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read, it
> was
> > the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and ability
> to
> > travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The
> Scorpion's
> > ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human
> > standing on foot.
> >>
> >>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than the
> > basic dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman
> > first!
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Clark Ward Jr 
> >> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
> >> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
> >>
> >> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
> >> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the Falklands/Malvinas
> >> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
> >> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
> >>
> >> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
> >> get the Sherman built.  :)
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Clark in Georgia
> M4 Sherman
>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: Anyone have any treadmill belts?

[Derek Engelhaupt]

Couldn't get a hold of the owner yet, but do you have like a "Second Wind"
place around you anywhere, Don?  I'm sure they like to put new belts on the
used tread mills they take in on trade.  That would be another idea.
Cheapest new treadmill belt I've found online was $74.  Far from free.  :)
If they do have one laying around, I'll be down in the twin cities this
weekend.  I should be able to let you know by tomorrow if they have any.

Derek
T065

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Don Shankin  wrote:

> Derek,
>
> That'd be great, thanks!
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Derek Engelhaupt wrote:
>
>> Don,
>>
>> We have a small gym in town.  Maybe they have some.  I'll see if I can
>> swing by during work one of these days this week.
>>
>> Derek
>> T065
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Don Shankin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I'm making some progress with my Abrams, and I'd like to begin work on
>>> the tracks.  Does anyone have a sufficient amount of treadmill belt that
>>> they'd be willing to sell?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --
> Donald Shankin
> Computer Engineering Undergrad
> Blue Marble Security Member
> IEEE Vice Chair, MTU Chapter
> NSBE Telecommunications Chair, MTU Chapter
> CAEL Partner
> (507) 301-2499
> dtsha...@mtu.edu
> dshan...@gmail.com
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>
>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Clark Ward Jr]

As a tank, I agree that it'd get 2 hits, ignoring hits from the
front... but I can't find anything in the rules that says SV's don't
go by the Defensive Rating table...

Not to be a rules lawyer (but to be one :)

Section III.4 says:
"Defensive Rating
Each asset will be given a defensive rating based on the maximum
frontal armor carried by the asset. The defensive rating determines
the number of hits needed to destroy the asset, using the following
table:"

nothing else in the rules gives a defensive rating to vehicles;  If
there's been an informal thing in which SV's get 1 hit only, then I
would concede the point :)


Clark 'Got my Juris Doctorate thru mail order' in Georgia

On 6/9/09, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:
> I think John was referring to if it was used as a Scorpion tank that it
> would get two hits and frontal immunity, but I'm sure he can clarify that.
> As far as I know, all supply vehicles still get one hit to kill regardless
> of armor rating.  Clarification?
>
> Derek
> T065
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:
>
>>
>> Technically, only a 'Tank' gets the immunity to hits from the front...
>>
>> But the defensive rating table doesn't specify which type of vehicle,
>> it only counts armor thickness.  So, an FV103 presumably having
>> between 1mm and 34mm of armor, gets 2 hits.
>>
>> On 6/9/09, Doug Conn  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Is this correct ? I thought all support vehicles had a 'one hit
>> > anywhere'
>> > defensive rating regardless of construction.
>> >
>> >   - Doug
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of jvragu47
>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 AM
>> > To: R/C Tank Combat
>> > Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>> >
>> >
>> > Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
>> > you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
>> > Coming to Gettysburg?
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
>> >>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank
>> combat
>> > battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high at
>> the
>> > top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits
>> though.
>> >  It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only advantage
>> it
>> > would have is speed and modestly small size.
>> >>
>> >>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read, it
>> was
>> > the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and ability
>> to
>> > travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The
>> Scorpion's
>> > ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human
>> > standing on foot.
>> >>
>> >>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than the
>> > basic dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman
>> > first!
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >> From: Clark Ward Jr 
>> >> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
>> >> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>> >>
>> >> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
>> >> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the Falklands/Malvinas
>> >> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
>> >> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
>> >>
>> >> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
>> >> get the Sherman built.  :)
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clark in Georgia
>> M4 Sherman
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>


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M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: High Power Servo Hack

[Mike Lyons]

Correction: I removed all the 2-terminal SMDs (from memory there were
three, presumably capacitors to reduce noise).  I did not remove the
two PNP transistors that form the top legs of the H-bridge.



On Jun 9, 4:08 pm, Mike Lyons  wrote:
...
> I took a cheap analog servo and removed the motor and all surface-
> mount devices connected to the motor terminal pads.
...

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Derek Engelhaupt]

I didn't see anything to contradict your conclusionas an SV it looks
like it does get two hits, but not the frontal "tank" exclusion unless a
turret is installed and the "asset" is re-designated as a tank.

Derek (no mail order law degree in any state... ;) )
T065

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:

>
> As a tank, I agree that it'd get 2 hits, ignoring hits from the
> front... but I can't find anything in the rules that says SV's don't
> go by the Defensive Rating table...
>
> Not to be a rules lawyer (but to be one :)
>
> Section III.4 says:
> "Defensive Rating
> Each asset will be given a defensive rating based on the maximum
> frontal armor carried by the asset. The defensive rating determines
> the number of hits needed to destroy the asset, using the following
> table:"
>
> nothing else in the rules gives a defensive rating to vehicles;  If
> there's been an informal thing in which SV's get 1 hit only, then I
> would concede the point :)
>
>
> Clark 'Got my Juris Doctorate thru mail order' in Georgia
>
> On 6/9/09, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:
> > I think John was referring to if it was used as a Scorpion tank that it
> > would get two hits and frontal immunity, but I'm sure he can clarify
> that.
> > As far as I know, all supply vehicles still get one hit to kill
> regardless
> > of armor rating.  Clarification?
> >
> > Derek
> > T065
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Technically, only a 'Tank' gets the immunity to hits from the front...
> >>
> >> But the defensive rating table doesn't specify which type of vehicle,
> >> it only counts armor thickness.  So, an FV103 presumably having
> >> between 1mm and 34mm of armor, gets 2 hits.
> >>
> >> On 6/9/09, Doug Conn  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Is this correct ? I thought all support vehicles had a 'one hit
> >> > anywhere'
> >> > defensive rating regardless of construction.
> >> >
> >> >   - Doug
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> >> rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
> >> > On Behalf Of jvragu47
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 AM
> >> > To: R/C Tank Combat
> >> > Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
> >> > you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
> >> > Coming to Gettysburg?
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
> >> >>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank
> >> combat
> >> > battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high
> at
> >> the
> >> > top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits
> >> though.
> >> >  It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only
> advantage
> >> it
> >> > would have is speed and modestly small size.
> >> >>
> >> >>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read,
> it
> >> was
> >> > the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and
> ability
> >> to
> >> > travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The
> >> Scorpion's
> >> > ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human
> >> > standing on foot.
> >> >>
> >> >>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than
> the
> >> > basic dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman
> >> > first!
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >> From: Clark Ward Jr 
> >> >> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
> >> >> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
> >> >>
> >> >> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
> >> >> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the
> Falklands/Malvinas
> >> >> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
> >> >> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
> >> >> get the Sherman built.  :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Clark in Georgia
> >> M4 Sherman
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Clark in Georgia
> M4 Sherman
>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: High Power Servo Hack

[Mike Lyons]

Good news to report: My very slow but very high-torque servo is now
working nicely.

WARNING:  ;~}  High technology information follows.  There are no
relays, microswitches, baling wire, or tobacco spit used.  If this
offends you, stop reading.  ;~}

I took a cheap analog servo and removed the motor and all surface-
mount devices connected to the motor terminal pads.  I connected the
pad to the inputs of a TLE 5206-2 H-bridge (as recommended elsewhere
by Steve Tyng - thanks Steve!!!).  I connected the ground of the servo
board to the ground of the bridge.  The H-bridge is supplied by a 12
volt SLA battery.  The H-bridge output drives a gearmotor, the shaft
of which drives a 5K pot via plastic gears.

I'll take photos and post them when I build the next one.

The gearmotor arm now moves steadily, slows down as it approaches the
target location, then stops.  No overshoot, no hunting, no humming.
(No guarantee this will be true with a faster motor.)

I suspect the problem with the previous approach was NOT the momentum
of the geartrain but rather the slow turn-on and turn-off of the
SSRs.  The new H-bridge chip turns on and off in a few us (worst case
30).

I'm very pleased with the result so far.  Two minor issues: the travel
is about 135 degrees (vs 80 for the original servo) and the motor is
not running at full speed under servo control.

The travel is no doubt due to different electrical rotation angles
between the original pot and my replacement pot (which is much easier
to mount reliably).  I will check this later and report.  I can fix it
with a different pot, different gear ratios between the motor shaft
and pot shaft, or use a "servo stretcher" to adjust the endpoints.

I wasn't expecting the speed reduction.  I suspect the servo duty
cycle is significantly less than 100% at full speed.  (It's possible
this is a design "feature", to avoid possible shoot-through when
suddenly changing directions at full speed.)  If anyone has access to
a scope and can measure the duty cycle for any analog servo, I'd
appreciate a report.

One caution: I zapped an H-bridge chip by not paying attention to the
specs.  The supply voltage can be up to 40V, but the logic input
cannot exceed 7V.  This means you can't pull these inputs up to the H-
bridge supply (e.g. if you had an NPN open-collector output).  The
output from the servo board is a little under 6V or a little above
zero, which works just fine.



On May 16, 1:10 pm, Mike Lyons  wrote:
> I've just completed a prototype of a custom servo with massive torque
> - the gearmotor has a reduction ratio of 1636 (and RPM of 1.5).
...

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[TANKS] Re: High Power Servo Hack

[Doug Conn]

>> If anyone has access to a scope and can measure the duty cycle for any
analog servo, I'd
appreciate a report.

>From http://www.societyofrobots.com/actuators_servos.shtml

The motor of an analog servo receives a signal from the amplifier 30 times a
second or at 30Hz. This signal allows the amplifier to update the motor
position. Digital servos use a high frequency amplifier that updates the
servo motor position 300 times a second or at 300Hz. By updating the motor
position more often, the digital servo can deliver full torque from the
beginning of movement and increases the holding power of the servo. The
quick refresh also allows the digital servo to have a tighter deadband.

- Doug


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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Clark Ward Jr]

LOL Derek, my wife is the lawyer in the family :)

I think that building a multipurpose vehicle on a common hull is a
cool idea... I had been looking at M113's for that.  But a Scorpion!
:) Glee!


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M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Suprtrpr17674]

When I go to the Main Web page under Table of Contents and click on
Tanks a list of 68 tanks numbered T001 thru T068 comes up.  I would
like to post on this page but can not find any links to add my tank.
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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Derek Engelhaupt]

Just keep telling yourself"Sherman, Sherman, Shermanmust finish
Sherman..."  I have a 1/18 scale model of the M113 that I have been taking
measurements off of.  My plan is to mount some of my EV warriors in it at
12V with almost no gear reduction.  Make it light enough and fast enough to
do powerslides in the grass and leap tree stumps.;)

Derek

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:

>
> LOL Derek, my wife is the lawyer in the family :)
>
> I think that building a multipurpose vehicle on a common hull is a
> cool idea... I had been looking at M113's for that.  But a Scorpion!
> :) Glee!
>
>
> --
> Clark in Georgia
> M4 Sherman
>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Clark Ward Jr]

No fear on that, Derek, my boat-battling buddy Mike Mangus won't send
me the FV103 plans until he sees video of the Sherman rolling around &
shooting :)   I got more done on fiberglassing the M4's hull bottom,
and I'm 1/6th done with the steel suspension arms.



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M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Mike Mangus]

Clark, were you wanting the FV103 Spartan AFV plans or a set of plans for a 
FV101 Scorpion CVR(T)?  

Mike 





From: Clark Ward Jr 
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:05:24 AM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated


No fear on that, Derek, my boat-battling buddy Mike Mangus won't send
me the FV103 plans until he sees video of the Sherman rolling around &
shooting :)   I got more done on fiberglassing the M4's hull bottom,
and I'm 1/6th done with the steel suspension arms.



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M4 Sherman



  
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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Clark Ward Jr]

I think Frank has to add your build or something like that.  I look
forward to seeing your Bulldog.


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M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Mike Mangus]

The web master has to create the page before you can post on it.  He probably 
won't make the page until you request a tank designation.  To get a tank 
designated, it must move on its own power.

Mike





From: Suprtrpr17674 
To: R/C Tank Combat 
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:50:56 AM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: Tank Build


When I go to the Main Web page under Table of Contents and click on
Tanks a list of 68 tanks numbered T001 thru T068 comes up.  I would
like to post on this page but can not find any links to add my tank.


  
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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Derek Engelhaupt]

Each tank on that page has a "designation" (ie: T001 or T045, etc) number
for points, stats, etc.  It used to be that a lot of tanks were posted on
that page before they were in running order.  That has changed.  Now in
order to post to that page your vehicle must at least be in a "rolling
chassis" state whereas it can be controlled by a tethered remote or wireless
remote.  No turret, gun, or other bits are required to be a rolling
chassis.  Frank P. would be the man to make the page once your tank meets
the rolling chassis requirement.

Derek
T065

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Suprtrpr17674  wrote:

>
> When I go to the Main Web page under Table of Contents and click on
> Tanks a list of 68 tanks numbered T001 thru T068 comes up.  I would
> like to post on this page but can not find any links to add my tank.
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Mike Mangus]

That is correct.  Supply vehicles get one hit regardless of actual full size 
armor thickness.  

Only tanks get a defensive value based on full size armor thickness.

Mike





From: Derek Engelhaupt 
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:57:57 AM
Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

I think John was referring to if it was used as a Scorpion tank that it would 
get two hits and frontal immunity, but I'm sure he can clarify that.  As far as 
I know, all supply vehicles still get one hit to kill regardless of armor 
rating.  Clarification?

Derek
T065


On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:


Technically, only a 'Tank' gets the immunity to hits from the front...

But the defensive rating table doesn't specify which type of vehicle,
it only counts armor thickness.  So, an FV103 presumably having
between 1mm and 34mm of armor, gets 2 hits.


On 6/9/09, Doug Conn  wrote:
>
>
> Is this correct ? I thought all support vehicles had a 'one hit anywhere'
> defensive rating regardless of construction.
>
>   - Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of jvragu47
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:29 AM
> To: R/C Tank Combat
> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>
>
> Nicely done. But two hits is better than one for a supply vehicle and
> you also get the frontal hit exclusion for being a tank. Looks great.
> Coming to Gettysburg?
>
> John
>
> On Jun 8, 11:25 pm, Mike Mangus  wrote:
>>  I think the Scorpion would make a neat little tank on the RC tank combat
> battlefield.  At 1/6 scale, it would be around 34" long and 13" high at the
> top of the turret.  Armor was 25mm, which would give it only 2 hits though.
>  It's 76 mm cannon would give it the full 40 rounds.  The only advantage it
> would have is speed and modestly small size.
>>
>>  Clark, you mentioned the Falklands conflict.  From what I've read, it was
> the only "tank" on the islands because of it's light weight and ability to
> travel over soft surfaces that a modern MBT would sink into.  The Scorpion's
> ground pressure is merely 4 lbs per square inch ... less than a human
> standing on foot.
>>
>>  I'll send you a set of plans as soon as I draw up a nicer set than the
> basic dimensional drawing I used.  Oh, and you must finish the Sherman
> first!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> 
>> From: Clark Ward Jr 
>> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:12:02 AM
>> Subject: [TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated
>>
>> I have always loved the Scorpion.  Not sure why.  But as I explained
>> to someone who derided it in a discussion about the Falklands/Malvinas
>> war...  When you're the only TANK on the island, nobody cares if
>> you're a LIGHT tank or not!  You're a TANK!
>>
>> Mike, ole buddy, you need to email me the plans/measurements AFTER i
>> get the Sherman built.  :)
>
>
> >
>


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M4 Sherman






  
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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Clark Ward Jr]

Either way, I had figured that you've got the Spartan plans, and that
I could rough them into a Scorpion... but if you are going to do that,
then that's fine, too :)

What part of the rules says the one-hit thing for supply vehicles,
though?  I thought I scoured them pretty well...

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M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Frank Pittelli]

Suprtrpr17674 wrote:
> When I go to the Main Web page under Table of Contents and click on
> Tanks a list of 68 tanks numbered T001 thru T068 comes up.  I would
> like to post on this page but can not find any links to add my tank.

You can't post anything to the website until your tank is granted an 
official designation.  In order to receive a designation, you have to 
demonstrate a "rolling chassis".  In other words, a working power train 
and the vehicle has to be able to drive around under remote control 
(either wireless or tethered).

Frank P.

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Derek Engelhaupt]

I hated cutting suspension arms especially because I used carriage bolts
(square holes).  I had to drill the approximate hole size after cutting the
arm to length on a steel cutting chop saw and then use my Skill saw to cut
out the square.  Once the square was close, I used a file to clean up the
edges of the hole and do the final fitting.  Very time consuming indeed.
Then the bar stock I used was fairly thin.  So thin that the square part of
the bolt interfered with getting the nut tight.  Rather than start over with
a different design, I squared out some holes on some large washers to act as
spacers.  Had to go through the whole process a second time.  And then a
third time to mate the carriage bolts to the chassis.  Ended up having to
make 48 square holes

Derek
T065

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:

>
> No fear on that, Derek, my boat-battling buddy Mike Mangus won't send
> me the FV103 plans until he sees video of the Sherman rolling around &
> shooting :)   I got more done on fiberglassing the M4's hull bottom,
> and I'm 1/6th done with the steel suspension arms.
>
>
>
> --
> Clark in Georgia
> M4 Sherman
>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: Who holds the Atlanta to Savannah land speed record? (plus some tank pics)

[Michael Clark]

Looking good. There must be something psychological about living in Georgia
and building a Sherman.



On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:

>
> General Sherman!  (my mom and my wife hate that joke :)
>
> Anyhow, even with finals next tuesday, I couldn't stay out of the
> shop...  Here are some pics of the progress!  The maintenance hatch is
> not properly attached with a hinge yet, but it sits there nicely.
> Also, the front end has yet to receive the fancy laminated round part
> that'll make it look right.  The turret is going to be made as a plug
> and then I get a mold to make multiple turrets...  So someday I might
> use that extra right sponson I made :)
>
> Oh, the pic at the end is the wooden mockup of the VVSS suspension,
> sans springs...
>
>
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/tugboat706/?action=view¤t=M4-02.jpg
>
>
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/tugboat706/?action=view¤t=M4-03.jpg
>
>
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/tugboat706/?action=view¤t=M4-05.jpg
>
>
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/tugboat706/?action=view¤t=M4-06.jpg
>
>
> http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/tugboat706/?action=view¤t=M4-08.jpg
> --
>
> Clark in Georgia
> M4 Sherman
>
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Clark Ward Jr]

I'm using 1/4" thick by 1/2" wide steel.  I forget the particular
alloy, but I picked one off of McMaster's site that was rated highly
for durability and 'good' for machinability...  4 bars per suspension
station (2 per wheel).  I'm doing 4 per day in amongst the rest of it.
 I posted some links to pics in my 'Atlanta to Savannah speed record'
post, which shows how far the hull has come.  5 days from now, I'll
have the suspension ready for drilling and mounting :)  (That's why
I've been fiberglassing the lower hull furiously so that it's ready,
too!)

48 is a LOT of square holes...


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M4 Sherman

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[TANKS] Re: Who holds the Atlanta to Savannah land speed record? (plus some tank pics)

[Clark Ward Jr]

Thanks :)  I'm not really a Georgian,  I'm a transplanted Virginian,
like John Carter on Barsoom...  kind of.

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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Modena]

Derek, would have been easier (and much quicker!) to grind the square
bits down to round

On Jun 10, 9:23 am, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:
> I hated cutting suspension arms especially because I used carriage bolts
> (square holes).  I had to drill the approximate hole size after cutting the
> arm to length on a steel cutting chop saw and then use my Skill saw to cut
> out the square.  Once the square was close, I used a file to clean up the
> edges of the hole and do the final fitting.  Very time consuming indeed.
> Then the bar stock I used was fairly thin.  So thin that the square part of
> the bolt interfered with getting the nut tight.  Rather than start over with
> a different design, I squared out some holes on some large washers to act as
> spacers.  Had to go through the whole process a second time.  And then a
> third time to mate the carriage bolts to the chassis.  Ended up having to
> make 48 square holes
>
> Derek
> T065
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Clark Ward Jr  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > No fear on that, Derek, my boat-battling buddy Mike Mangus won't send
> > me the FV103 plans until he sees video of the Sherman rolling around &
> > shooting :)   I got more done on fiberglassing the M4's hull bottom,
> > and I'm 1/6th done with the steel suspension arms.
>
> > --
> > Clark in Georgia
> > M4 Sherman- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Modena]

> It used to be that a lot of tanks were posted on that page before they were 
> in running order.

I didn't know that - I guess that explains why there are so many tanks
from so many years ago which have never appeared in battle
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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[jvragu47]

On Jun 9, 2:57 pm, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:
> I think John was referring to if it was used as a Scorpion tank that it
> would get two hits and frontal immunity, but I'm sure he can clarify that.
> As far as I know, all supply vehicles still get one hit to kill regardless
> of armor rating.  Clarification?
>
> Derek
> T065
>
Correct assumption Derek. Customarily all support vehicles have only
been allowed 1 hit, but Clark,Monsieur Le Barrister, is correct in his
statement. I guess we'll need clarification from Chief Justice Frank.

John" yes Kurt I'm working on the ammo hopper" Pittelli

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[TANKS] Re: Anyone have any treadmill belts?

[jvragu47]

Don,
   Try this item on Ebay.Item number: 160340249359  It's on sale
for 30 bucks and has enough for a couple of vehicles.

John



On Jun 8, 9:06 pm, Don Shankin  wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I'm making some progress with my Abrams, and I'd like to begin work on the
> tracks.  Does anyone have a sufficient amount of treadmill belt that they'd
> be willing to sell?
>
> Thanks,
> -Don
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[TANKS] Re: Anyone have any treadmill belts?

[Don Shankin]

Thanks John, I'm going to keep an eye on it and I'll snag it if I can't find
anything locally.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM, jvragu47  wrote:

>
> Don,
>   Try this item on Ebay.Item number: 160340249359  It's on sale
> for 30 bucks and has enough for a couple of vehicles.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 9:06 pm, Don Shankin  wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I'm making some progress with my Abrams, and I'd like to begin work on
> the
> > tracks.  Does anyone have a sufficient amount of treadmill belt that
> they'd
> > be willing to sell?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Don
> >
>


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[TANKS] Re: SV015 Designated

[Derek Engelhaupt]

I need the square to keep the suspension arms in the correct orientation.
As the pivot, well pivots the square portion keeps the shaft from turning.
I attached my springs to a bolt (lever arm) substituted for the set screw in
a shaft collar.  When the shaft collar and lever rotates against the spring,
the square portion of the bolt moves the swing arm on the outside of the
chassis.  That way I can tighten the nut and shaft collar for a little more
resistance if needed.  The whole thing is riding on bearings (one on the
inside of the chassis and the other on the outside).  Simple in design, lots
of labor.

Derek
T065

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Modena  wrote:

>
> Derek, would have been easier (and much quicker!) to grind the square
> bits down to round
>
> On Jun 10, 9:23 am, Derek Engelhaupt  wrote:
> > I hated cutting suspension arms especially because I used carriage bolts
> > (square holes).  I had to drill the approximate hole size after cutting
> the
> > arm to length on a steel cutting chop saw and then use my Skill saw to
> cut
> > out the square.  Once the square was close, I used a file to clean up the
> > edges of the hole and do the final fitting.  Very time consuming indeed.
> > Then the bar stock I used was fairly thin.  So thin that the square part
> of
> > the bolt interfered with getting the nut tight.  Rather than start over
> with
> > a different design, I squared out some holes on some large washers to act
> as
> > spacers.  Had to go through the whole process a second time.  And then a
> > third time to mate the carriage bolts to the chassis.  Ended up having to
> > make 48 square holes
> >
> > Derek
> > T065
> >
>

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[TANKS] Re: Tank Build

[Guy Gregoire]

There is also the distance factor.  I have build two tank with a rolling 
chassis and one six wheeled ( all six wheels powered ) support vehicule, one 
T050 registered, but as I live far from the battleground, I had to enjoy ( I 
really do ) driving them around and thinking of the improvements there can be 
done on the next, after all building it and see the final result is the most 
interesting part, imo.

 

Greg.


 
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:18:01 -0700
> Subject: [TANKS] Re: Tank Build
> From: b...@holnet.net
> To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> > It used to be that a lot of tanks were posted on that page before they were 
> > in running order.
> 
> I didn't know that - I guess that explains why there are so many tanks
> from so many years ago which have never appeared in battle
> > 

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[TANKS] building is the best part

[Guy Gregoire]

This make me think, I build 3 vehicules so far, all of them 1/6 scales and made 
with 16 gages blacksteel chassis: one Tiger, one PzIII (T050) and one support 
vehicule on six wheels.  Every times one is done and in working order I play 
around with it, climb all what it can, push and drag on boxes in the garage to 
found the limits, and after a while of this I sit down and think of wich 
improvements can I do, or better design.  In the end I always end up by 
starting to draw the new vehicule im thinking at and one day I buy some more 
steel.
 
All this to say, for me, the building process ( 
draw-design-build-assemble-adjust ) is the most fun and rewarding part.  Nice 
to drive it around and prove myself I was right here and there, but this always 
bring me to the next vehicule "draw" part.  Is it the same for other in this 
hobby also?
 
Greg.
 

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[TANKS] Re: building is the best part

[Doug Conn]

It's definitely that way for me, Guy. The design, build, test and tweak
cycle is the most fun. The fact I get to write software on top of that is
icing on the cake ! Now that I have an asset to battle, I'm not particularly
concerned with how long it takes to build the next one. As long as I can
make steady progress I'm happy.

 

Don't get me wrong - the battles are tons of fun. I wouldn't be doing any of
this if there weren't any battles to attend. It's great to get together with
other people who like to build and battle these things. There are only a few
battles every year, however. I can design and build whenever I want.

 

I have an idea for you. It's a 'kill two birds with one stone' kind of
thing. For your next vehicle, just build a landing craft like an LVT. Load
up your tanks and yourself, cross the Bay of Fundy, turn South, and come
battle with us !

 

-Doug

 

From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Guy Gregoire
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:53 PM
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TANKS] building is the best part

 

This make me think, I build 3 vehicules so far, all of them 1/6 scales and
made with 16 gages blacksteel chassis: one Tiger, one PzIII (T050) and one
support vehicule on six wheels.  Every times one is done and in working
order I play around with it, climb all what it can, push and drag on boxes
in the garage to found the limits, and after a while of this I sit down and
think of wich improvements can I do, or better design.  In the end I always
end up by starting to draw the new vehicule im thinking at and one day I buy
some more steel.
 
All this to say, for me, the building process (
draw-design-build-assemble-adjust ) is the most fun and rewarding part.
Nice to drive it around and prove myself I was right here and there, but
this always bring me to the next vehicule "draw" part.  Is it the same for
other in this hobby also?
 
Greg.
 

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[TANKS] Re: building is the best part

[Pete Curran]

Greg,

I think you have hit the nail on the head so to speak, I usually don't get
to the moving part before I go the I can do this but it would be better in
this vehicle, and restart the design process

 

 

Pete

 

From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Guy Gregoire
Sent: Wednesday, 10 June 2009 12:53
To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
Subject: [TANKS] building is the best part

 

This make me think, I build 3 vehicules so far, all of them 1/6 scales and
made with 16 gages blacksteel chassis: one Tiger, one PzIII (T050) and one
support vehicule on six wheels.  Every times one is done and in working
order I play around with it, climb all what it can, push and drag on boxes
in the garage to found the limits, and after a while of this I sit down and
think of wich improvements can I do, or better design.  In the end I always
end up by starting to draw the new vehicule im thinking at and one day I buy
some more steel.
 
All this to say, for me, the building process (
draw-design-build-assemble-adjust ) is the most fun and rewarding part.
Nice to drive it around and prove myself I was right here and there, but
this always bring me to the next vehicule "draw" part.  Is it the same for
other in this hobby also?
 
Greg.
 

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