Re: [realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-25 Thread Toni Alatalo
On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Peter Steinlechner wrote:

> Yes, I tested the builds you mentioned and it sounds like its the same issue 
> you must have had. Thanks for this hint and I will try laters to find those 
> files. By any chance you have a hint about the file name ? 

16:00 < Pforce> appdata/etc../configuration
16:00 < Pforce> .ini files from there
16:01 < Pforce> prolly some uiexternal.ini
16:01 < Pforce> matti had many crashes before clearing that file

.. i think it's the appdata in your users home dir and realXtend dir there 
etc., am not on windows not so can't check

> Pedro

~copy-paste-man

> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Toni Alatalo  wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Peter Steinlechner wrote:
>> When i try to use the build tool the viewer crashes no matter if I use it in 
>> Fisu or on the local Taiga 0.2.0 
> 
> Did you test the Enne builds at some point on that machine, the ones where 
> the external windows + docking feats were first introduced? I had the prob on 
> one box that got crashes with 0.4 builds 'cause had incompatible .ini files 
> (with the window setup saved) lying around.
> 
> if that's the case, I don't know yet what ini file / where to remove, but we 
> can figure out.
> 
>> Pedro
> 
> ~Toni
> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Toni Alatalo  wrote:
>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:45 PM, mattiku wrote:
>> > Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.
>> 
>> Apparently a bug sneaked in that broke old mediaurls (the ones attached to 
>> textures with the old viewer, not using EC_3dCanvasSource directly) -- had 
>> happened in a refactoring I made a while ago. Just noticed it today 'cause 
>> some friendly person had added one to world.realxtend.org:9000 and the test 
>> bot that logs in there after each commit reported the fail.
>> 
>> Fix is in develop now, and at least the bot doesn't complain anymore. Will 
>> test more at some point, and I guess we'll have to do a fix release 
>> soon'ish.. can wait a while if people report other possible probs too.
>> 
>> > Matti Kuonanoja
>> 
>> ~Toni
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Re: [realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-25 Thread Peter Steinlechner
Hi Toni

Yes, I tested the builds you mentioned and it sounds like its the same issue
you must have had. Thanks for this hint and I will try laters to find those
files. By any chance you have a hint about the file name ?

Cheers
Pedro

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Toni Alatalo  wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Peter Steinlechner wrote:
>
> When i try to use the build tool the viewer crashes no matter if I use it
> in Fisu or on the local Taiga 0.2.0
>
>
> Did you test the Enne builds at some point on that machine, the ones where
> the external windows + docking feats were first introduced? I had the prob
> on one box that got crashes with 0.4 builds 'cause had incompatible .ini
> files (with the window setup saved) lying around.
>
> if that's the case, I don't know yet what ini file / where to remove, but
> we can figure out.
>
> Pedro
>
>
> ~Toni
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Toni Alatalo  wrote:
>
>> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:45 PM, mattiku wrote:
>> > Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.
>>
>> Apparently a bug sneaked in that broke old mediaurls (the ones attached to
>> textures with the old viewer, not using EC_3dCanvasSource directly) -- had
>> happened in a refactoring I made a while ago. Just noticed it today 'cause
>> some friendly person had added one to world.realxtend.org:9000 and the
>> test bot that logs in there after each commit reported the fail.
>>
>> Fix is in develop now, and at least the bot doesn't complain anymore. Will
>> test more at some point, and I guess we'll have to do a fix release
>> soon'ish.. can wait a while if people report other possible probs too.
>>
>> > Matti Kuonanoja
>>
>> ~Toni
>>
>> --
>> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
>> http://www.realxtend.org
>>
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Re: [realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-25 Thread Toni Alatalo
On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:20 PM, Peter Steinlechner wrote:
> When i try to use the build tool the viewer crashes no matter if I use it in 
> Fisu or on the local Taiga 0.2.0 

Did you test the Enne builds at some point on that machine, the ones where the 
external windows + docking feats were first introduced? I had the prob on one 
box that got crashes with 0.4 builds 'cause had incompatible .ini files (with 
the window setup saved) lying around.

if that's the case, I don't know yet what ini file / where to remove, but we 
can figure out.

> Pedro

~Toni

> 
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Toni Alatalo  wrote:
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:45 PM, mattiku wrote:
> > Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.
> 
> Apparently a bug sneaked in that broke old mediaurls (the ones attached to 
> textures with the old viewer, not using EC_3dCanvasSource directly) -- had 
> happened in a refactoring I made a while ago. Just noticed it today 'cause 
> some friendly person had added one to world.realxtend.org:9000 and the test 
> bot that logs in there after each commit reported the fail.
> 
> Fix is in develop now, and at least the bot doesn't complain anymore. Will 
> test more at some point, and I guess we'll have to do a fix release 
> soon'ish.. can wait a while if people report other possible probs too.
> 
> > Matti Kuonanoja
> 
> ~Toni
> 
> --
> http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> http://www.realxtend.org
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Re: [realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-24 Thread Peter Steinlechner
Hi all

V 0.4 looks great so far. Thanks for the great job you are doing.

When i try to use the build tool the viewer crashes no matter if I use it in
Fisu or on the local Taiga 0.2.0

Cheers
Pedro

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Toni Alatalo  wrote:

> On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:45 PM, mattiku wrote:
> > Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.
>
> Apparently a bug sneaked in that broke old mediaurls (the ones attached to
> textures with the old viewer, not using EC_3dCanvasSource directly) -- had
> happened in a refactoring I made a while ago. Just noticed it today 'cause
> some friendly person had added one to world.realxtend.org:9000 and the
> test bot that logs in there after each commit reported the fail.
>
> Fix is in develop now, and at least the bot doesn't complain anymore. Will
> test more at some point, and I guess we'll have to do a fix release
> soon'ish.. can wait a while if people report other possible probs too.
>
> > Matti Kuonanoja
>
> ~Toni
>
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Re: [realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-24 Thread Toni Alatalo
On Jan 21, 2011, at 1:45 PM, mattiku wrote:
> Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.

Apparently a bug sneaked in that broke old mediaurls (the ones attached to 
textures with the old viewer, not using EC_3dCanvasSource directly) -- had 
happened in a refactoring I made a while ago. Just noticed it today 'cause some 
friendly person had added one to world.realxtend.org:9000 and the test bot that 
logs in there after each commit reported the fail.

Fix is in develop now, and at least the bot doesn't complain anymore. Will test 
more at some point, and I guess we'll have to do a fix release soon'ish.. can 
wait a while if people report other possible probs too.

> Matti Kuonanoja

~Toni

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Re: [realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-21 Thread Antti Ilomäki
I would again like to thank Enne guys from Spain. Their contributions
were very welcome and I hope their example will encourage others to
join in as well. So thank you again to everyone who has contributed
code, testing, good ideas or a few encouraging words. Let's keep
working together and see the community grow.

2011/1/21 mattiku :
> Hi,
>
> Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.
>
> It's meant to be used with Taiga 0.2.0 server backend like
> world.realxtend.org:9000 test world.
>
> New features and changes since the 0.3.4.1 version.
> - External widgets with docking capability
> - Text-to-speech  for text chat and notifications
> - Reorganized menu items
> - Box selection for edit mode
> - Render to texture support
>
> Changes from 0.4.0 RC3 version.
> - More tts voices including English
> - minor ui tweaks
> - bug fixes
>
> More detailed change log can be found here:
> http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali#Changelog_and_History
>
> You can find the installer here (100MB) : 
> http://code.google.com/p/realxtend-naali/downloads/
>
> Special thanks to studio Enne for external widget and tts features.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matti Kuonanoja
> realXtend developer
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[realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release

2011-01-21 Thread mattiku
Hi,

Naali viewer 0.4.0 is now ready for use.

It's meant to be used with Taiga 0.2.0 server backend like
world.realxtend.org:9000 test world.

New features and changes since the 0.3.4.1 version.
- External widgets with docking capability
- Text-to-speech  for text chat and notifications
- Reorganized menu items
- Box selection for edit mode
- Render to texture support

Changes from 0.4.0 RC3 version.
- More tts voices including English
- minor ui tweaks
- bug fixes

More detailed change log can be found here:
http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali#Changelog_and_History

You can find the installer here (100MB) : 
http://code.google.com/p/realxtend-naali/downloads/

Special thanks to studio Enne for external widget and tts features.


Cheers,

Matti Kuonanoja
realXtend developer

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[realXtend] Naali 0.4.0 release candidate out for testing

2010-12-31 Thread Toni Alatalo
Hi,

a quick note - more info coming next week (year!), when the final
release is targeted too. You can use the release candidate to test if it
works for you, and report probs. Grab 0.4.0-RC3 from the usual place,
http://code.google.com/p/realxtend-naali/downloads/list

Partial changelog, to be updated, at
http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Naali#Version_0.4_.28Under_construction.29

Biggest new thing is the inclusion of the UiExternalModule and
corresponding changes from studio Enne in Spain -- made independently of
the other dev here in Oulu. We haven't even seen the guys, except on
irc, but are happy that the code appeared on github :) Enne made the
work for their needs on their own, but it's very useful generally too.

In practice that shows so that when you open any Naali GUI window like
inventory or dotsceneupload, you can also drag it outside the main Ogre
window -- must have for dual screen setups. There's also docking so that
when you drag the windows to the borders of the main window, they dock
to a panel there .. and if you drag multiple, they go in their own tabs
there.

We configured this now for the official release so that the old special
top-left round menu from earlier Naali releases is still used. In Enne
build/config there is a normal application menubar, and a normal button
toolbar. Which menu style to use is configurable in .ini files now. We
felt that the old Naali style is more suitable for an end user viewer,
has less GUI areas hiding the 3d view. Enne also has the tool menus only
in the config for authors, end user builds have it disabled. But the
official Naali release is a bit mixed case, 'cause it is for end user
viewing but also for authoring. Feedback on which way is preferred is
welcome -- a major reason for this release is getting feedback on how
the UI works.

Kudos to Matti Kuonanoja for working on the Enne integrations and
working on the UI codes to get them to the way we wanted! And for making
the release in general.

Besides the GUI work, Enne also contributed a text-to-speech synthesis
module, using the Festival library. Some voices and languages are
bundled by default in the release, so the download size grew. 

For the final release, we are considering making minimal & full
packages .. minimal might go down to 50MB download if it doesn't have
Telepathy for XMPP chat & video conferencing (which brings ffmpeg and
lots of gnome libs), and full would be >130MB with more text-to-speech
voices. Feedback on the usefulness of such different packages is welcome
too. I know in some places ppl have 100MB home connections so it doesn't
matter, but in other places on Earth even a 10MB download can take long.
For later an add-on install system for optional stuff might be nice, but
we don't have it and there are not *that* many modules either (yet).

~Toni

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