[REBOL] Re: Emailing to a server ?
Hi Jason, Jason Does anyone have experience/advice/ideas using REBOL [or another scripting Jason language] for automatic email services to work with a server-side bot? Sure, it's really easy. Jason I want [authorized] users to be able to directly email to a server-sde email Jason address. A bot-script will then parse the email and add content to Vanilla site Jason [or similar]. Authorization may include appropriate syntax within the email Jason which the Vanilla site admin can est and edit. If you take a look at the script library, there's a section on email; http://www.reboltech.com/library/script-email.html It's really easy to read mails and you get the relevant fields in a rebol object such as mail/from mail/subject etc. I actually put an entire web blogger into my IRC bot and it also periodically checks e-mail for blogs, SMSes bound for IRC and things like that. Regards, Mat. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Email woes on IBM/AIX Risc 6000
Hi Ed, Ed connecting to: smtprelay.avnet.com Ed ** Access Error: Network timeout Ed ** Where: confirm Ed ** Near: smtp-port: open [scheme: 'smtp] Ed if email? I had something like this once. The problem was due to the mail server attempting to do an ident check on the machine which was talking to it. The timeout period of this on the mail server was longer than the default timeout period in Rebol. The solution was to turn the ident request off on the mail server although if you have no access to that you should be able to increase the Rebol timeout value instead. Regards, Mat. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: I've had it with email.
Hi Carl, Carl At this rate, I think email will be dead in a few years. In Carl fact, let me go on record saying that. A venture capitalist Carl recently commented that this was a bold statement... but just Carl watch. You watch. I'm not saying email will go away permanently. Carl I'm saying that we'll have much better ways to communicate. Carl I've said this stuff recently myself (instead of VCs it was work colleagues that looked at me as if I were insane). I had to turn off my longest standing email address (remove the alias from my mail server) because of the monumental amounts of spam it gets. The equivalent of moving house to get away from pizza flyers. As someone who uses email rather for work as well, one of the greatest failings of email is that you just don't know if anyone has read it or not. You send a letter, you send a fax, people treat this stuff seriously and in the latter case you get a delivery report and know they have a paper hardcopy. People just ignore email and that's such a huge problem that it makes email useless and forces you to interrupt people by telephoning. This is a real problem, only certain types of people are happy to conduct business on the phone and that's an inefficient communications mechanism at best, being real time and relying on how good people are at making sure the salient points are all covered. I think there's lessons to be learnt in the take up of instant messenger clients. I have no idea how one combats the momentum of email but at least the instant messenger clients managed to get installed and find wide use. Likewise a new email system where it was possible to see delivery status and see visual, perhaps automatic, status responses to your email. Having a proper binary transport mechanism that doesn't base86 encode to squeeze 8-bit data into legacy systems wouldn't hurt. But ultimately some sort of third party mediation may be required just to authenticate senders and receivers (and clients, since undoubtedly some will want to override the 'features' which made such a system attractive in the first place) - that'd be the only true defence against spammers. Regards, Mat. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: I've had it with email.
Hi Charles, I think there's lessons to be learnt in the take up of instant messenger clients. I have no idea how one combats the momentum of email but at least the instant messenger clients managed to get installed and find wide use. Charles Getting a shy off topic, I have to disagree there. I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with exactly. All I said was there are lessons to be learned from them, I didn't advocate them blindly nor did I claim they were spam-proof at any stage. The point I was trying to illustrate was that instant messenger clients have demonstrated that if a communications system offers something they need above existing standards, then they can still take off and become a big thing. Charles Another problem with IM clients is like phone - you *have* to Charles deal with the person *now*, or ignore them. Well I agree it's a problem but it's also a feature and pretty much why people took to them in the first place. It's a sort of point to point IRC system. I use MSN Messenger as I find it a fairly light weight solution that just works. On the other hand, I've turned off all the 'display alerts' on events stuff to get around being interrupted. Charles Email, you can get to it when you have time. Or not at all. Or they forget. Etc. E-mail with a built-in bugging system would be quite nice in fact, I guess that's more of a client issue. I know I'd like my client to bug me that I haven't replied to stuff. Forcing the issue, delete it, mark it to ignore deliberately or get reminded to reply. Of course even if I did that, no one else would use the same system. Charles Instant messaging leaves a lot to be desired, and I do not Charles believe should be used as an example of how things should be Charles done. Neither was I putting it forward as such, oddly enough. Regards, Mat. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol channel on IRC
Hi Boleslav, Boleslav BTW, is there some REBOL IRC client? Boleslav Or at least protocol? Protocol might have been nice but it's simple enough with Rebol's TCP handling. I've written an IRC bot in Rebol. Actually, probably the most feature-rich IRC bot the world has ever seen given I've been adding stuff to it for absolutely ages and it's so easy in Rebol. :) And I actually do it, believe it or not, by opening a TCP/IP socket and reading in line mode. No fancy buffering, nothing and it works perfectly. However someone else wrote a bot which was in 'better' Rebol than mine (I'm still a crap programmer), particular in the way it handled the low level stuff. It also did all the sort of channel police type things where as mine is purely an Infobot. It's also a million times more suitable for looking at the code than mine is :) I can't recall who did it, perhaps they'll pipe up now. Regards, Mat. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Block manipulation: help!
Hello folks, Here's another newbish type question. I've never really gotten my head around block/series manipulation in Rebol. As a result of this my code is full of silly hacks that keep building temporary data structures to get the results I want. I was hoping that someone may help my cog drop into place so I can write some decent Rebol at last. Here's a typical problem; Let's say we have a file which is full of cars and the colours they are available in; Saloon Red Coupe Red Coupe Yellow Pickup Truck Red Pickup Truck Yellow Pickup Truck Orange Pickup Truck Blue Now what if I want to scan through this file and build up a list of cars but then just state which colours they are available in after in the structure. I'll assuming an elegant format is this; FinalData: make block! [ Saloon [Red] Coupe [Red Yellow] Pickup Truck [Red Yellow Orange Blue] ] So, reading the file is easy enough. CarLines: read/lines %file foreach CarLine CarLines [ Car: pick (parse CarLine none) 1 Colour: pick (parse CarLine none) 2 ; ; ??? ; ] The question is, how do I create final data? I can do a find on the FinalData to see if a car is there already. But all this does is return the data after. I've always been puzzled about the lack of a word/function to return the position in a series/block of a find, if found. So anyhow, here's the best I can think of; either found? find FinalData Car [ ; Already have an entry for this car... ; Select at least allows retrieving of the block following our ; found element easily... ; existingcolours: select FinalData Car ; ; Great so add the new colour to the existing colours ; append existingcards Car ; ; But how do we poke it back? We don't have a position to do a poke? ; ][ ; ; Plug in the new car, plug in the block which has the colour in it ; append FinalData Car append FinalData reduce[reduce[Colour]] ] I don't really understand the block navigation issues to solve this problem or to somehow poke more data in without having a position. As usual any stupid stuff I've missed and elegant solutions gratefully received. Regards, Mat Bettinson -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Encoded lines in email, parsing/decoding in Rebol?
Folks, I got this parsed out of an E-mail as a name. Manually, of course, since import-email doesn't save the real name. =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTlM4NhsoQiAbJEJNNUc3GyhC?= This appears to be a Japanese name specified on the From: line with a Japanese character set. I didn't even know you could do this! For my application I need to display the name on a web page, which is fine my HTML will select the right character set. But does anyone know how to turn the above into the real sequence that will be printable into a HTML page? Regards, Mat Bettinson -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: local vars in functions
Hello Gregg, GI UNFREEZE context GI extend context GI FREEZE context Actually it would have felt a bit more intuitive for me to actually specify variables that were global, and not mention variables that are local specifically. If only because the way I code that would have a hell of a lot less behind /local :) Anyhow, I appreciate this isn't going to happen and it's no big deal. Regards, Mat Bettinson -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] import-mail
Folks, import-mail doesn't actually extract the name from the From: header field or am I missing something? Regards, Mat Bettinson -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Trouble using Rebol/view as a CGI bin
Folks, I'll try again to see if anyone has any ideas what could be the problem here. I'm using Rebol/command and Rebol/Core just fine in Xitami as a CGI application for my scripts. Great. The problem is that one script needs shell access so I need to use Rebol/view/pro since there's no core/pro. However when Xitami launches it, absolutely nothing happens. The Rebol tasks is running, I can see it in the task manager. No work gets done, no GUI appears, eventually it times out and Xitami kills the task. The obvious thing would be for Rebol/view to be trying to open a GUI to get configured. However that just doesn't appear to be the case. I can drop to the consol and invoke Rebol/view with the -cs switch and it gracefully starts and exits just as you'd expect. I'm at a loss to explain this behavior. Has anyone got a suggestion on what I might to do track down the problem? Regards, Mat Bettinson -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Rugby/firewall question
Guys, Thought I'd take a look at Rugby to find out what the fuss is about. It looks quite cool and I can think of some applications. However I have a showstopping problem. test remote function ahoy! ** Access Error: Cannot connect to 192.168.0.2 ** Where: rexec ** Near: open/no-wait/direct dest write-msg msg dest The key bit here is the ip. That's not a real ip, the server is behind NAT. It is however the dirty-net of the firewall so a request to the IP will work. However I need to get rugby to report some other IP to connect to rather than the bogus real/local IP which it has sent to my client. Is this something where I'm going to have to get my hands dirty with Rugby itself? Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rugby/firewall question
Hello Maarten, MK The simplest way would be for you to create your own stub functions set MK using rexec or sexec using the correct ip addresses. Excellent, cheers for the pointer. I'll check it out. Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol/view as a CGI app
Hello Andrew, AM It sounds like your rebol installation is bad. I think that Rebol/View AM doesn't like being called %rebolcmd.exe. It's probably trying to install AM itself when called by Xitami? No, that's now what I have done. The command line I quoted works; #!C:\Rebol\rebolcmd.exe --cgi -s This really IS Rebol/Command. The above also works if I use just plain rebol.exe, IE Rebol/Core. What does NOT work is if I do ANYTHING like the following; #!C:\Rebol\view\rebol.exe --cgi -s This just doesn't work. It hangs. Doesn't matter what switches I use either, I've tried dozens of combinations. I can run the exact path and my Rebol/View just goes straight into the console and doesn't try to install itself with the nasty pop up GUI thing. AM If you want to run Rebol/View and Rebol/Core at once, consider doing what AM I've done, which is to have one directory, like: AM %/C/Rebol/ AM with two subdirectories, inside it like: AM %/C/Rebol/View/ AM and: AM %/C/Rebol/Core/ I just leave Rebol/Core and Rebol/Command in the %/C/Rebol/ dir. AM Then put Rebol/Core in it's directory and Rebol/View in it's directory. AM Then check them out to make sure that both work OK, then try them out again. They all work, I'm not a complete fool. :) AM Be sure that the REBOL_HOME variable in your autoexec.bat file is changed AM and that you've rebooted your system. The end result is two Rebol AM executables which are at: AM %/C/Rebol/Core/Rebol.exe AM and: AM %/C/Rebol/View/Rebol.exe AM Then in the %/C/Rebol/ directory, you can store your Rebol scripts and AM it's all tidy and so on. I didn't know about the REBOL_HOME var actually. Not that it appears to matter much. I have Rebol/view (pro) registered in the system to execute scripts without security etc. It works well. AM I hope that helps! If not, please let me know, or email the list? The only solution I can think of is to work out what the hell is happening with Rebol/View when I'm calling it. Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol/view as a CGI app
Hi Andrew, AM You do know that Rebol/View's %User.r and %Rebol.r are different from AM Rebol/Core's %User.r and %Rebol.r, don't you? It sounds like you've got all AM the rebol versions using the same versions of these files. Well not exactly. Rebol/core and Rebol/command are using the user.r and rebol.r in C:/Rebol/ but Rebol/view uses the files in C:/Rebol/View/ because that's where's it's installed. Now Rebol/view when you set it up IE run it for the first time, appears to set up it's path independently. I'm not sure where, but it works and it's installed and I don't have to touch it to run scripts. So I fail to see why it just hangs when called as a CGI app from Xitami. I didn't know about the REBOL_HOME var actually. AM It's recommended to be put into autoexec.bat for Rebol/Core. I've never needed it on any machine to date. AM On Windows 95+ systems, edit the C:\autoexec.bat file and add a line such AM as: This is a Win2K box. AM I hope that helps! Not really but I'm somewhat past caring, the old rebol/command appears capable of running the scripts I need so I guess I'll have to keep using that ;) Regards, Mat. -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Style R flavour checker ;-)
Hello, I'm trying to get Rebol to work with Xitami. I've actually done it before but the box suffered a melt-down. I'm not really interested in doing anything fancy like that fast-CGI type implementation. I just want to do some very simple stuff such as you see in the script library. Anyone know exactly what you do? I've tried a load of different things. Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Rebol/view as a CGI app
Hello Mat, Firstly sorry for not changing the subject. MB I'm trying to get Rebol to work with Xitami. Turns out what I was doing wrong was trying to use Rebol/view. This just doesn't work at all. Rebol/core does of course. However I needed the shall command so I've had to use the ancient Rebol/command I have. I assume this is desired behavior and --cgi is disabled on Rebol/view in some unfathomable marketing/product positioning decision? Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] How to get a redirected url?
Hello, If you have a URL that redirects somewhere, how can you tell where it is redirecting? IE obtain the URL where you are being redirected. If you read it, Rebol will display two connecting to: entries in the console and returns the redirected page but that doesn't help the goal above. Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Block/array manipulation
Folks, Here's a simple thing which I've needed to do quite a bit of, but couldn't quite figure out how you'd do it in Rebol so tended to do things the long way. Let's take a block of stuff; Stuff: make block! [fire water air water water air] Now the object of the excersize is to to build block with all of the unique values. That bit is easy; foundstuff: make block! [] foreach bitofstuff stuff [ if found? find foundstuff bitofstuff [ append foundstuff bitofstuff ] ] After this, all of the unique values are loaded into the 'foundstuff' block. The question is, say I wanted to do this but count each instance of the words as they are subsequently found? IE I could somehow tell that water was found 3 times and air was found twice. This is where my rudimentary grasp of Rebol fails me. :) Regards, Mat Bettinson Codeplay Tel: +44 (0)20 7482 3382 140-142 Kentish Town Rd, London, NW1 9QB http://www.codeplay.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: simple editor for rebol
Heya CPN, CPSSCCC I would be glad if you could keep me informed of the course-monography (I CPSSCCC don't know if it's the right English word for it) Two words for the content of a class/school subject etc; syllabus and curriculum In old matters of schooling, English frequently falls back to Latin :) I believe the former applies more to a single course instead of an overall content for a school year or or something like that for the latter. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Call - setting current directory
Heya Michal, MK you can set it directly from REBOL, you don't need a .bat file: change-dir %"/C/Program Files/Microsoft Office/Office" Good lord, I didn't know that. Cheers! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: View-Pro 1.1 available for more platforms
Heya Holger, Carl said; That said, even when running on Workbench you see 4megs of memory dissapear by just launching the calculator Hehe. You should render view in a MUI window, just to piss the Amiga die-hards off even more :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Can I Ping in REBOL?
Heya Geraint, GJ Now to the problem I have: I am a Computer Technician for a GJ college in the UK and the Network Administrator here wants to GJ write a CGI Ping tool. No. RT hath decreed that there is no use for ICMP in Rebol. So we've had to use other languages for that task. GJ will another language do it? Certainly. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Can I Ping in REBOL?
Heya Geraint, GJ Thanks for the response, but since Perl can't use ICMP without being logged-in as the root user and it won't GJ work properly with other protocols, which CGI language can we use to ping our own server periodically where GJ security is an issue? Or is it possible to code our own ICMP functions in REBOL or Perl, and if so, how (bearing GJ in mind that I am an amateur REBOL programmer but the Network Administrator here is fluent in Perl)? You could always use Rebol/view/pro and call an external application to do the pinging? I wrote a whole load of game server polling stuff in Rebol (UDP funkiness) and then found someone had written a command line application that did just about every game server under the sun and also had a funky raw output with your own delimiter chosen. Threw out all my code and slapped that in. It's currently running under Rebol/Command but I've just bought view/pro so I'll probably run that as my other network stuff doesn't work properly under /command. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Compression
Heya Paul, PT Imagine with 400 byes of compressed data (representing a gig or PT more) what this could mean to handheld devices like portable mp3 PT players or digital cameras. The capablity to store your entire mp3 PT collection in a portable device. Is it especially good crack where you come from? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Compression
Heya Paul, PT Actually I expected that kind of remark. :) I also expect more of the same PT and looked in the mirror several times asking similiar questions. Don't worry, the effects wear off after awhile. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Compression
Heya Paul, PT I tried talking to math professionals looking for an answer but PT couldnt get one. None of them explained the laws of entropy to you then? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: View/Pro now available.
Heya Rishi, RO I don't suppose the key for rebol/view/pro works on RO all platforms. Is it $49 per platform? Or does $49 RO cover all platforms...in that case i'd pay... Be a bit of a bargain then wouldn't it! Bloody nice you get the shell stuff in it for $49. Now for the first time I'm actually looking at view as something I might want to use. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: View/Pro now available.
Heya Holger, HK $49 for all platforms. The order page does not ask which HK platform you have, so the same key works on all platforms. Sold! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Buffered file reading
Hi Guys, I'm making a sort of batch URL mover in Rebol. It will take it's commands via E-mail and download files from the net and upload them where specified. Naturally we need to use some sort of buffered scheme. I asked about this before and drew a blank but then I found this document on rebol.com: http://www.rebol.com/docs/network.html Take a look at the following extract; -- Cut -- Transferring large files requires special considerations. You may want to transfer the file in chunks to reduce the memory required by your computer and to provide user feedback while the transfer is happening. Here is an example that downloads a very large binary file in chunks. inp: open/binary/direct ftp://ftp.site.com/big-file.bmp out: open/binary/new/direct %big-file.bmp buf-size: 20 buffer: make binary! buf-size + 2 while [not zero? size: read-io inp buffer buf-size][ write-io out buffer size total: total + size print ["transferred:" total] ] -- Cut -- Well no, that code obviously wont ever work. (total not initialised) But it's probably close. The odd thing is that it only transfers about 20 and I'm not sure why that would be. It only seems to read a few K at a time and I've no idea why size would be zero when the magical number of 20 is hit. Any ideas? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Buffered file reading
Heya Mat, MB inp: open/binary/direct ftp://ftp.site.com/big-file.bmp MB out: open/binary/new/direct %big-file.bmp MB buf-size: 20 MB buffer: make binary! buf-size + 2 MB while [not zero? size: read-io inp buffer buf-size][ MB write-io out buffer size MB total: total + size MB print ["transferred:" total] MB ] Actually, I got this working; inp: open/binary/direct ftp://ftp.site.com/big-file.bmp out: open/binary/new/direct %big-file.bmp buf-size: 20 buffer: make binary! buf-size + 2 total: 0 while [not zero? size: read-io inp buffer buf-size][ write-io out buffer size clear buffer total: total + size print ["transferred:" total] ] close inp close out This works. The notable difference being the clear buffer, which was actually just a guess from me since I don't really know what it does other than resetting a pointer. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Parse doing weird things...
Heya, While I'm at it; I've noticed this issue repeatedly in my data mining scripts. The parse command sometimes just will not work with the following format; webpage: read http://www.yaddayadda.com datamine: make string! "" parse webpage [thru "something" copy datamine to "somethingelse"] In the vast bulk of cases it works but right now I'm sitting in my Rebol console with a bag load of HTML fragment in a variable and parse turns up false every time. Now the rules DO match the content in the html! Specifically; parse tmp/content [thru "Etymology:" copy DictEnty to "br"] Here's everything I've tried that I can remember. tmp/content comes from HTTP-TOOLS and I've tried loading it into another variable, no luck. Etymology: *does* exist. If I put 'to end' instead of the br tag then it parses true. Find also turns up Etymology as well. It doesn't appear to matter WHAT I put in the quotes at the end. IE I can hunt for a couple of plain letters that are in the string directly following Etymology. It doesn't appear to make any difference that this is a tag. Finally, all of this worked before and now it doesn't. In the past to cure this random parse blowout, I've had to cut down on the data I'm trying to parse. All of the above leads me to think there is some sort of restriction to how much data can be parsed before some sort of feature/limitation/bug is run into. Anyone seen this before? Comments? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Shell access for Rebol, was: zip file support
Heya Jamey, JC Again, RT has the right to do anything they want with Rebol. Unfortunately, JC programmers have the NEED to get their jobs done. I have already been forced JC to scrap one application I was writing for work in Rebol and re-do it in JC Tcl/Tk. Tcl allowed me to do the vital shell access I needed. I'd just like to add here that I'm going to side with the school of thought on Core having some sort of shell access. I've thought a bit about why RT are doing it the current way and I can see the benefit in having platform independence 100% with Core as it stands. However to my mind that's just 'nice' balanced against something which Rebol could *really* use to get a nice hook into the hobbyist as well as the professional development sectors. I believe there is a niche in a lovely little language like Rebol being able to do things on the PC rather like folks used to do things on the Amiga with Arexx. A powerful, easy to use language that ultimately had shell access. I know how good it could be because I have it in Rebol/Command and it's astoundingly useful. I think there's more than enough differentiation with Rebol/Command having direct DLL and ODBC access for the higher end developers. Ultimately a higher user-base would benefit RT more than the commercial exploitation of Command to those just wanting shell access. I think we all know folks that have run off to do things in Perl or TCL purely because they couldn't do things with Rebol. I think this is a great shame. I've done some amazing things to make my friends and colleagues go "Oo, I didn't know you were a ninja programmer". Yet I'd have a hard time evangelising it as it currently stands. Which is a shame. I like to evangelise things like Rebol because they're speechlessly cool. But this is a holding it back for much useful applications and a wider acceptance imo. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Parse doing weird things...
Heya Mat, MB All of the above leads me to think there is some sort of restriction MB to how much data can be parsed before some sort of MB feature/limitation/bug is run into. So I tried to fix this myself; parse copy/part find tmp/content "Etymology:" 256 [thru "Etymology:" copy DictEnty to "br"] == false The above line should limit the parsing to a 256 character length string starting from exactly where we were going to 'thru' to anyhow. It *still* doesn't work. I mean look for yourself! print copy/part find tmp/content "Etymology:" 256 Etymology: Portugueseipeatilde;o/iamp;Frenchipion,/ifromMedievalLatinipedon-,pedo/ifootsoldier--moreatahref="dicti onary?book=Dictionaryva=pawn"fontsize="-1"PAWN/font/abrDate: 1609brb1/bb:/banyofvariousworkersinIndia,SriLa There's the Etymology: and there's the goddamn br! Why the hell doesn't it work?! Argh! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Parse doing weird things...
Heya jelinem1, jnc If the problem really is that you are looking for a TRUE return from jnc 'parse, then the explaination is simple. 'parse will return TRUE only if it jnc can successfully match the entire string according to the given rules. jnc Placing "to end" as your final rule should give you the result you desire. Hmm OK, but it always appeared to return true if it worked. IE there's the correct value loaded into the var. When it returns false, I generally get nothing. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: ftp question
Heya ryan, rcic When you use REBOL's built-in FTP protocol, does it send a "bye" command rcic when it is finished downloading? Or does it just let the FTP connection rcic time out? It hangs around for ages on the offchance it might get reused. I find quite a lot of the FTP behavior quite annoying but Holger wrote a mail saying why that was all good and so that was that :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Ping?
Heya Holger, HK Ping is HK a useful diagnostic tool for net admins, but IMHO has no place in applications HK or scripting. Recent application requirement. Ping a load of DSL routers and report on their status as being up or down. Output to a web page etc. I thought Rebol, realised it didn't do it. Someone else did it in another language. No money for me. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Ping?
Heya Chris, C Why not try connecting to a well-known port? auth is often visible even C through firewalls and AFAIK most systems will allow connections to auth C - if the connection is made then you know the server is there... Regular NAT-enabled DSL in the UK provided by British Telecom does not. Some people have SMTP servers, ftp ports etc but there is no port you can guarantee. Even telnet, oddly. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL Books
Heya Elan, E I take it that you mean to make a distinction between a critique, and E offering your advice. I don't see why this distinction would have any E relevance regarding the statements you make about my book. Tim said my earlier post was a critique, it wasn't. This post you replied obviously was. Chapter 1. The Rebol Programming language (because you didn't know before you bought the book apparently) E Thank you. You are very smart! This is part of advice, not of critique, E yes? Ahh, I see you've taken this to heart and are charging in blindly in defence of your book. Why did I get into this? sigh Tim claimed this book was for an advanced user and I'm replying. Had you read the thread you would see this - obviously my statements are not news to you. I said it was not for the advanced user and you are seemingly agreeing with me. I've covered the critique thing. I notice you don't quote my line at the end saying "Is that a better critique?" :) Chapter 2. Installing Rebol (yes it's that hard) E Perhaps not for you. I would hardly describe myself as an advanced user. I had no problem with these sections - you are taking my comments out of context. Now in *my* opinion there's no way you'd use Rebol for coding a database anyhow - it's just not suitable for that sort of thing. E Now is *that* so? I guess that's "*my* opinion", is it? Did you EARN the E starts you use to point at yourself? I assume this lost something in the typing. I can't exactly see how you can find fault with me offering an opinion and making it clear that it is only that. It's probably just easier to call me an arsehole :) It's not a bad book at all, it just wont suffice as an only book. E shrug It depends on your needs. If it's only going to be one book, E then I'd say it's a pretty good choice. But, in all fairness, as its E author, I may be a little biased. Well quite, so I rather hoped you'd be a little more level headed about my opinion on the matter. After all I paid cash for it. To be perfectly frank, I fear for anyone after advice here on what book(s) to get. IMO it's not optimal having the author's prowling the list trying to skew the third-party opinion. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL Books
Heya Tim, TJ I must respectfully differ with Matt's opinion here. His opinion provides TJ *no* real information as to the content of Elan's book, nor does he do TJ any credit to the enormous amount of work that went into it. shrug I wasn't writing a critique. I was writing a recommendation on what books I think he should buy in order to best learn Rebol. TJ If you want to learn how to put together a distributed database system TJ using rebol , AND learn rebol at the same time - this is for you. But TJ it will take some time, and is for the serious student of both rebol AND TJ database programmer. Well that's true. However it says Rebol the Official Guide on the cover. It doesn't say Rebol and Distributed Databases. I guess that's what annoyed me. It has skimpy documentation of network protocols, pretty much no reference section at all which as an 'Official Guide' I would have thought mandatory. I bought this before that User Guide PDF became available. IE when I wanted to know about X in Rebol, I flipped to the index and tried to look it up and more often than not it wasn't there at all. TJ "Rebol the Official Guide" is a book for the advanced and needs advanced TJ discipline. "Rebol for Dummies" may be for the less adbanced. The official guide is for the advanced? Now it's my turn to respectfully differ. Chapter 1. The Rebol Programming language (because you didn't know before you bought the book apparently) Chapter 2. Installing Rebol (yes it's that hard) Chapter 3. Taking the First Steps (which includes such classics such as 'Loading Rebol under Windows' and 'Using Print') Chapter 4. Rebol Basics (etc et etc) It reads like a highschool guide to BASIC (along with how to complete your first project) quite frankly. Granted the entire sections on handling data are good, well that's basically the bulk of the book. Now in *my* opinion there's no way you'd use Rebol for coding a database anyhow - it's just not suitable for that sort of thing. What it *is* good for is advanced data mining of the Web and utility scripting etc especially the native net support. That's not catered for very well here at all. IE it doesn't even tell you how to delete a mail from a pop3 box except to say that you need to use low-level port functions to do it. It's not a bad book at all, it just wont suffice as an only book. Is that a better critique? TJ If I were to make a recommendation to some who wished to earn money TJ with rebol, then I would recommend both books above, as well as the TJ PDF and this mailing list. Fair comment. For an enthusiast, I recommend Rebol User Guide and this mailing list and possibly the Rebol for Dummies as the CGI section example on rebolpress looks good. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: REBOL Books
Heya Robert, RP Is it better/worse/same as : RP Rebol : The Offical Guide Recommend you skip this, it's nasty. The guide you can get in PDF is a million times better. More of a reference guide, I suppose, but this is basically what you need in conjunction with snooping readymade scripts. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: script library on rebol.com vs rebol.org
Heya Graham, GC The more the merrier. I'd settle for one that was updated. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: IRC BOT
Heya Paul, PT I know this issue has come up alot with people wanting to create PT an IRC BOT with REBOL. I have made substanial progress in making PT one. Now I would like to make it a full fledge project with help PT from everyone. I wrote a fully functional one. It's an info bot though, I can't be bothered doing channel enforcement stuff when Eggdrop does that fine. Your stuff to do with multiple servers and reconnection etc sounds pretty good - I do REALLY basic stuff on that front. I find my DSL and the IRC server I use pretty damn reliable just to retry the same one. PT What I want to next is expand this bot even greater as I got alot PT of ideas for it. I would like the initial interface for starting PT the bot to be in /View gui. I'm utterly uninterested in a GUI for an IRC bot. It doesn't need one and I'm not happy with the situation with Rebol/view anyhow. PT I would like it to become more compatible with other irc clients - PT Dword limit problem mentioned earlier. I would like someone very PT familiar with eggdrop to provide input as well. Look at the Eggdrop source? It's only done in TCL. PT all conversation in a channel. I will be making alot of error PT function corrections as well to get much better error handling. That stuff sounds useful for me. PT Anyone looking to volunteer to join me and a few others in this effort? Well I can give you a WHOLE LOAD of nifty functions that I added into mine. Stuff like translate based on Bablefish. Ping, whois functions. Dictionary lookup function. Expression Calculation. E-mailing and SMS gatewaying complete with a CGI script which manages the users of this. Tagline telling, joke telling (another site), BBC news headlines, country TLD lookup. Google web search (the most useful by far!) and FTPsearch (Lycos). I've even got Half-Life game server polling stuff. All in my quick and dirty ultra-fast code - nasty as hell but they work. I'd like to rework by bot's error handling stuff so maybe we can work something out to share code. Heh, if anyone can stand the sight of mine :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Evaluating a maths expression in a string?
Hello, I was just thinking of adding another function to my IRC bot. A mathematical evaluation expression. The question is, if I get a string which contains a mathematical expression - how would you evaluate this and get the result? Of course some form of error? try [] would be involved in case something went wrong... -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Evaluating a maths expression in a string?
Heya Ryan, RCC Here is something to get you started... expression-string: "2 + 2" RCC == "2 + 2" do load expression-string RCC == 4 Mmm quite obvious really. expression-string: "2 / 0" either error? try [expresult: do load expression-string] [ Print "Bum expression man, get some skillz!" ][ Print rejoin ["The result was: " expresult] ] Sweet! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Evaluating a maths expression in a string?
Heya Mat, MB Mmm quite obvious really. MB expression-string: "2 / 0" Next stage, it's natural for folks to enter expressions without white spaces. As rebol is a somewhat human illogical white-space sensitive language - this must be worked around. I was thinking, the easiest hack might be to replace +,-,* and / with " + ", " - ", " * " etc Sure it's going to result in redundant spaces if they DO put in spaces but it should work no? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Evaluating a maths expression in a string?
Heya Larry, either not error? try[result: do str][result]["code to handle error"] I've just realised the fatal flaw with this approach. Since I allow user input to my evaluation string - there's nothing to stop them typing out rebol code. Security issue to say the least! I suppose I could filter to make sure there are only characters that fit a character set of "0123456789+-*/()" - that might do it? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Evaluating a maths expression in a string?
Heya Mike, MM Following is a calculator in Rebol/View that encountered some of the same challenges discussed in this thread - evaluating mathematical strings, MM negating, enforcing the separation of tokens with spaces. It might be of interest or not. I'm sure it will be! Could you just give us a URL for that, Listar ate the file attach. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Network printing
Heya bo, brc Some network printers support the FTP protocol. Perhaps this would be a brc good method to try. Don't they operate out of a spool dir? Or at least Epson stuff does. You could set up FTP and FTP into the spool dir I suppose? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: creating blocks
Heya Graham, GC I have some text with newlines etc that I want to convert to GC a block of lines. I could just write it to a temporary GC file, and then do a read/lines on it, but presumably there's GC another way ... Heh, I asked that one didn't I. parse/all text "^/" -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Remove quote marks LEFT(), RIGHT() ?
Heya Donald, DD Yes, I wanted to use TRIM/WITH, but I didn't see a docs/example of how to do DD it with escaping a quote mark, until later. Along these lines, is there a super elegant way to strip off leading and/or trailing spaces from a string? IE not knowing if they exist etc. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Rebol and FTP (recursive stuff in particular)
Hi folks, I'd like to write a backup script that backs up the files on an FTP site. This because my cheap mass hosting has already dumped everyone's files. :-/ Anyhow, there's no shortage of recursive directory routines lying around the place. Unfortunately they don't work with web sites. The reason for that being that Rebol appears to keep trying to open fresh FTP sessions every time you reference a URL - even if there's a current session logged into the same site. This seems like stupid behavior given it doesn't logout any of these threads either. The solution, I suppose, is to do a low level port-based FTP client type function that operates intelligently. I'd really rather not do that! Does anyone have an idea how to try get the high-level FTP stuff in Rebol not to be so stupid? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol and FTP (recursive stuff in particular)
Heya Holger, HK No, REBOL caches and reuses the FTP control connection across HK subsequent accesses to the same host and directory. But doesn't actually close any. Is there a way of forcing them closed? How are you supposed to implement some sort of recursive system with high-level FTP when Rebol tries to open as many threads as their are directories? Clearly the concurrent user limit for the site will be hit, to say nothing of the fact this is not efficient to say the least. HK A new data HK connection has to be created for each file being transfered. That HK is not a limitation of REBOL, but rather a requirement of the FTP HK protocol. Indeed, but it's the control connection which is limited on servers. HK The only situation when REBOL creates a new control HK connection is when you change directories. That is necessary because HK FTP provides no standard way to remotely navigate through the HK directory tree (in particular up the tree) without side effects. What, other than cd .. ? I don't get it. Assuming for a second that I buy this argument, and I'm really not sure I do, then how would you recommend a recursive directory scan be implemented in Rebol? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol and FTP (recursive stuff in particular)
Heya Deryk, Assuming for a second that I buy this argument, and I'm really not sure I do, then how would you recommend a recursive directory scan be implemented in Rebol? DR You being The Fingers dare doubt the knowledge of The Holger? tsk ;) Hehe, I removed my brackets "(and I'm sure I'm being deeply foolish in the process)" :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol and FTP (recursive stuff in particular)
Heya sterling, src If you are seeing different results... like multiple command ports src open to the same host, please send as much info as you can into src feedback as a bug report so we can track down the problem. If we've established that this is not the proper behavior then absolutely, I can confirm that it does happen and that I can demonstrate it. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol and FTP (recursive stuff in particular)
Heya Holger, HK I'll double-check with Sterling, but AFAIK current experimental versions HK do close the control connection first if another connection to the same HK host has to be opened. At least that is the behavior I get here. Which HK version are you using ? Command, generally. HK "cd .." does not work if a component in the path is a softlink. E.g. if HK you have just read "/foo/" and next want to read "/bar/" then "cd .." HK does not always get you back to "/", because "/foo" might actually point HK to "/a/b/c/d/", and then "cd .." would only get you to "/a/b/c/". Yes, I had a good think about it. I see what you mean. It's a real can of worms. FTP clients even have work-arounds for different servers and operating systems. HK "cd ~" works on some servers, but not all, "cd /" works on some servers, but HK not all :-). If it supported a couple of the main ones (ServU, IIS, ProFTP etc) - this would be a start. then how would you recommend a recursive directory scan be implemented in Rebol? HK Just do a sequence of reads. Well that's the point, it wont close the threads and you get some arcane internal error the instant your connection is refused because of too many users logged on. Rather like that internal error FTP writes started making for no good reason on Serv-U after day or so... -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Enhancement Request - Rebol on new Amiga
Heya Al, ABxcn It would be very nice if Rebol ran on the new Amiga: ABxcn http://www.amiga.com/press/zine/4-17-00/AW7.htm Call my cynical (I did my stint as an Amiga advocate for a number of years) but does that page not just seem like the same pile of enthusiastic idealistic rhetoric that has plagued the Amiga through it's multiple abortive rebirths? Words really ARE cheap. IMO there's a hell of a lot of real platforms right here and now that Rebol out to be running on such as EPOC32! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] http referrer
Folks, I've a need to submit a form in Rebol, using the latest (excellent) cookie-client.r script. I find the response I get back demands that I use the form on their site. I imagine this would be something to do with the http referrer field? Is there some way of setting this? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: http referrer
Heya Ryan, RCC If you probe the cgi object, you should be able to see all of the cgi RCC variables as REBOL understands them in the cgi object. http_referrer RCC should be among them. I would guess you could set this variable and RCC pass it to the executable. I think you misunderstood - I needed to tell a CGI script that was not mine, on a remote machine, what the referer was. This is a http header element and one that can be slapped into net-utils/export HTTP-Post-Header "^/" etc. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Testing if a string is an integer?
Heya Philip, PB Hi Matt, PB why can you use to-integer Madness. I tried EXACTLY the same thing but I used number: make integer! number Thanks anyhow - at least it'll work this way although it's not the most elegant :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] File association and security
Wocha, File associations. How might you set one up that launches rebol.exe on .r files but with the -s switch? My Ugly Hack TM for running a Rebol executor machine is to launch .r files with the execute function of Serv-U. But many of my scripts require security turned off. Any solutions? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: File association and security
Heya Mat, MB File associations. How might you set one up that launches rebol.exe on MB .r files but with the -s switch? I worked it out. Different in different versions of windows, typical eh. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: RES: Re: File association and security
Heya Mailbank, M Sorry for my ignorance but I allways wonder why can't M security (Windows version) be set from within the script? Rather defeats the purpose of having security then, doesn't it :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Which PDA for Rebol?
Heya Elan, E this looks really exciting. What browser do you think this thing runs? I can't see Netscape in 8MB, can you? :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Accessing the Windows Registry from Rebol/Command
Heya Dan, DR I realize that this type of work defies the cross-platform philosophy of DR Rebol, but in order for Rebol to be a practical solution to my everyday DR scripting needs, I have to be able to play outside the Rebol "sandbox". If you're using Rebol/Command at all, you've broken cross-platform philosophy so I wouldn't worry about it. I foolishly overwrote my release rebol.exe with the current experimental and started using that to execute scripts. After a few hours of running my IRC bot - rebol.exe stops working and consumes staggering amounts of CPU power. It's done this on two different scripts. Darn. So I'm using Rebol/Command even to run my core stuff. I hope it doesn't have any operational differences outside of the new interfaces... -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Accessing the Windows Registry from Rebol/Command
Heya jeff, jrnIf you can cause this leak with a simple chunk of code (or jrneven a not so simple chunk), please by all means send it jrnin. That will help us fix it the fastest! :) You really don't want to see the code :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Which PDA for Rebol?
Folks, I mentioned this before, at the bottom of one of my cries for help that went unanswered :) Anyhow - I'm looking to pick up a PDA. I have a natural bias to Psion gear with the proper keyboard and decent OS. Rebol support, however, is a major factor. I see that there's not any release of Rebol Core for EPOC ARM? :( By the looks of it, Win CE machines are the best supported? Ugh. Still I heard those things are better these days. Anyone got much experience with Rebol on one? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Which PDA for Rebol?
Heya Lorenz, L My dream is one of these days be surprised by a REBOL version for PalmOS. L That´s because to me PalmOs is the best plataform to PDAs ever. But it seems L due to a memory problem with PalmOS REBOL won´t fit PalmOS at all :( Rebol on a PDA with no keyboard, no thanks. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Which PDA for Rebol?
Heya Kolbjørn, KB But they all have keyboards, and some of them are quite usable, I do plenty KB of html and script writing on my newton using the stylus, works fine. I've only seen those 3COM Palm things. I type loads so I need a proper keyboard and a decent web browser (Opera). That's WinCE or EPOC as far as I have seen. I really like the look of the HP Jordana 720 but ... it uses a 200MHz ARM CPU and beyond - there's no Rebol for ARM WinCE. Sigh. That said it costs a fortune so the Psion 5mx or Revo Plus look like damn good units. Oh, but there's no Rebol for EPOC32 *. :( KB Also, since rebol is multiplatform, platformindependant yada yada you can KB write things on your desktop or whatever, and copy it over to the pda for KB use. It's multiplatform except for any PDA I'm considering :( No, I intend to actually do a bit of Rebol tinkering on a PDA. * I have no doubt there will be one day though, a LOAD of future 3G Mobile/data devices are using EPOC. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Which PDA for Rebol?
Heya Holger, HK We have been looking into WinCE and EPOC-32 a bit recently, and there is HK a good chance that REBOL (Core at least, in experimentals) will become HK available in the not-too-distant future both for WinCE 2.x/3.x ARM and for HK EPOC-32 v5/6 (Psion model 5, 5mx etc). Good news! HK Sorry, I cannot be more specific (regarding schedule etc.) at this time. Or even which will be first? :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: /command for AmigaOS ?
Heya Jean, HJ I hope you could follow my explanations. Certainly, very nice workaround. How I wish the Amiga survived , it was a wonderful thing :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Rebot progressing nicely!
Hi folks, I've made absolutely fantastic progress with my Rebol IRC bot. It's fully functional now and it's been amazing people how easily I drop in new commands that actually DO cool stuff. Like ripping the top 3 BBCnews headlines :) I found a port combination of /no-wait and /lines made the code really easy to use, not having to worry about a buffer and ignoring the last line until it was completed later etc. Anyhow, the code is turning into something really quite spaghetti style. I thought making it modular would be best. IE /msg rebot command args Would go off and run rebot-command.r The question is, would this be relatively quick and how do I parse args to another rebot script? I'm amazed I've got this far given how little of the basics I understand :) I'm somewhat interested in these new Rebol books that are out now. I don't consider the official guide to be very conducive to learning the language at all, unfortunately. It's irritatingly vague on all the stuff that really matters (and you guys have born the grunt of my stupid questions as a result). How do the others rate, anyone seen them? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Timer fun
Hola, I have to implement some timers but... now/precise (which Holger pointed me at) doesn't exist. Neither in my regular Rebol Core or Rebol Command *. Mmm, I need Rebol Command really so I can't go using experimentals. 1 second resolution would be OK even I suppose. Anyone got some regular timer code by nicking the seconds off now/time or something? * Actually made Rebol Command crash a few times trying to use a no-wait port and then copying from it. Weird. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Timer fun
Heya Holger, HK Command features require deep changes within REBOL, e.g. for new datatypes HK such as struct!. This goes far beyond a simple set of functions. Ahh. Well I guess so long as the experimental stuff rolls along in a reasonable time I'll be quite happy. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: try fails to catch error
Heya Graham,
GC bademail: make email! "nospam"
GC try [ send bademail {testing} ]
GC Fails in both the current experimental and stable versions
GC of win32.
Does that not depend on whether your relay accepted the mail or not?
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[REBOL] Simple question
Guys, I've been trying to get my head around parse, trying to come up with a way to split a string (a buffer from a port actually) into a block by newlines. You can't do IO stuff from port with /lines refinement, so I need a way to go parsing stuff back from a server from the buffer. I can rip out the first line easily enough with; parse test [copy freshline to newline] But how could I make a block with ALL the lines in the buffer? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Simple question
Heya Russ, R unparsed: copy portname R parsed: parse/all unparsed "^/" Heh, I tried exactly the same thing but using newline. Silly of me :) -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol and UDP
Heya Russ, R packet gets through to someone who wants it. If you want guaranteed R connectivity, use TCP or build your own two-way acknowledgement/retry R scheme on top of UDP. Well that's my point, I don't know if the high level Rebol UDP support does this for you or not. If it doesn't, it'd be fairless useless as you can't get access to packet ids like you said. R some kind of packet ID into the data format of each packet sent... create a R timeout on the sending end... resend if you didn't receive an R acknowledgement from the receiver in time, etc. Basically, build TCP! Quite. The game uses UDP so TCP isn't an option. It's fairly academic since my use now is to a server on the same box so it's more or less guaranteed to work. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Rebol and UDP
Heya Holger, HK It is extremely unlikely that any game makes use of this. Quite, and it's not like I'd use Rebol for anything hard core with game traffic. I've got my game server RCON script working nicely with these existing UDP support so I'm happy! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: More error tracing fun
Heya Mat, I said earlier; MB make object! [ MB code: 303 MB type: 'script MB id: 'expect-arg MB arg1: 'find MB arg2: 'series MB arg3: [series! port! bitset!] MB near: [if not find/match/any server-said respons MB e] MB where: none MB ] I guess no one has much of an idea. Assuming this is some internal stuff, could it be related to the fact that I have two rebol scripts working on the same ftp site? Perhaps there's an obscure internal error there? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Rebol with Xitami?
Hello, Anyone been able to get Rebol scripts to work as CGI's with the Xitami web server? I understand you have to put a line in the front of the script, so I put this; #! C:\Rebol\rebol.exe --cgi --script I used Tom's great looking test script, slapped it in cgi-bin - changed the HTML to simply refer to /cgi-bin/ etc. Nothing happens. :( -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Newbie getting head around TRY/DISARM
Hello folks, I'm new to the list. I've been tinkering with Rebol making some damn handy scripts. Never done anything this productive since the Amiga! Anyhow, I've got a damn nice script that automatically uploads me some game server log files. Unfortunately I'm having trouble trapping errors. The examples given in the official guide basically seem broken to me. For example; if error? bleet: try [ delete xUploadFile ] [ print ["* File locked, skipping..." filen] probe disarm bleet return false ][ Quite straight forward you would have thought. Ripped straight from an example in the official guide. Well, it just doesn't WORK. It blows out claiming that bleet: must have some value. So does bleet get no value if there is no error in the try block? Then why does the official guide have this example; if error? error: try [ 1/0 ] [ [probe disarm error ] Is this not exactly the same as my form? Previously I had something simply in the format of; if error? try [ delete file ] [ Whine a bit ] But suddenly I was getting zillions of errors when there were no errors (specifically ftp uploading). So I assume I need to disarm it but now I can't get this form to work at all. -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: YYYYMMDD date format
Heya Mailbank, M I was wondering how can I get M the date formatted as MMDD? nowdate: rejoin [ now/year now/month now/day ] ? -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
[REBOL] Re: Newbie getting head around TRY/DISARM
Heya Ingo, [Education on the ways of error disarming] IH I hope that helps, Oh yes, you're an scholar and a gentleman! -- Mat Bettinson - EuroGamer's Gaming Evangelist with a Goatee http://www.eurogamer.net | http://www.eurogamer-network.com -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
