Re: Simple question?
Thanks for the reply. Do you mean the "Insert file link" button when I click "edit link" in text editor? This is the option I´ve tried, and should work(?) if I get this right: "Click to select a file from an Asset Manager folder as reference target. You can choose a file from your local computer, or from a folder on the RedDot Content Server." Im not sure what text editor I´m using but it should be the default provided by RedDot. On 18 Nov, 15:13, Chris Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You've got to use the media link in the text editor, or reference asset if > using FCKeditor. > > Chris Nixon > Director of Communication Technology Services > University Relations - University of Arkansas > 800 Hotz Hall - Fayetteville, AR 72701 > 479-575-5629 > > > > -Original Message- > From: RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of RedDot > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:05 AM > To: RedDot CMS Users > Subject: Re: Simple question? > > Edit: It seems like that the whole path is not found to the file. I > tried to use a media placeholder and added a pdf file to it. In > SmartEdit mode, the only thing that was shown was the path to the file > in text. If I then copy this path to the "href" textbox when editing > my link in text editor it works fine. But the question still remains; > why is not this path included just when I add a file to a text link or > a media placeholder? > > Regards > > On Nov 18, 9:54 am, RedDot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > > > I´m pretty new to RedDot, been a part of a small team implementing a > > clients home page in RedDot and am now responsible for service and > > support of our clients homepage. To my surprise I found a seeemingly > > easy task not working for me. > > > What I´m trying to do is simply link some text in the text editor to a > > pdf file. I´ve selected my text and clicked "edit link" and added my > > file to the link. When I then click on my link I get the message that > > there is no page to show or a blank window is opened if I set the > > target to "new" or "_blank". I´ve seen this in a old project and this > > works fine in this project. > > > Anyone have any ideas? Must be something I´m missing here... > > > Regards- Dölj citerad text - > > - Visa citerad text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
No multi-value placeholder in RedDot... what are the alternatives?
Hi all, I have a template where I need users to be able to say "This page falls into the following categories:" and then select any number of those categories. I'm aware there's no built-in way of doing that, but have never had to find a workaround until now. I thought of creating a simple HTML/JavaScript popup with a set of checkboxes, and getting that to output a comma-separated value for putting in a placeholder. That would be ideal, except it needs RQL or something to then write that value back to the page. Are there any bright ideas out there for getting me over this hurdle? Thanks very much! Simon Lewis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: No multi-value placeholder in RedDot... what are the alternatives?
Simon-- There are three ways to get by, 1)Leverage the RedDot Categories/Keywords built-in feature. Multiple Keywords can be assigned to a page instance. Though one at a time it is still an easy implementation for you the developer and the editors. 2)Build each category of your category list as an option list. Use the category value as the option list name and populate it as "yes" or "no". Place them in a group and designate the first option list as parent and all others as child elements. 3)Use simple html and specify "multi" and when the button is clicked, concatenate all the selected options and insert it into a standard text field. The 3rd option involves an RQL "write" which has to happen outside the page instance. So they script has to live somewhere else and be called asynchronously. When the write is done, you force a re-load of the page and the selected value will be shown. The trouble with the 3rd is that it is laborious for the developer. Every time the page loads, you also need to parse the standard text field value, parse them apart and populate them accordingly in the multi-select so that the user knows what has been selected. Henry Lu On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Simon Lewis, UK < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a template where I need users to be able to say "This page > falls into the following categories:" and then select any number of > those categories. I'm aware there's no built-in way of doing that, > but have never had to find a workaround until now. > > I thought of creating a simple HTML/JavaScript popup with a set of > checkboxes, and getting that to output a comma-separated value for > putting in a placeholder. That would be ideal, except it needs RQL or > something to then write that value back to the page. > > Are there any bright ideas out there for getting me over this hurdle? > > Thanks very much! > > Simon Lewis. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: No multi-value placeholder in RedDot... what are the alternatives?
Sorry I did not realize that your goal is to have a few checkboxes not multi-select, but the methods mentioned are all valid. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Henry Lu, Sun Certified Java Programmer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon-- > > There are three ways to get by, > > 1)Leverage the RedDot Categories/Keywords built-in feature. Multiple > Keywords can be assigned to a page instance. Though one at a time it is > still an easy implementation for you the developer and the editors. > 2)Build each category of your category list as an option list. Use the > category value as the option list name and populate it as "yes" or "no". > Place them in a group and designate the first option list as parent and all > others as child elements. > 3)Use simple html and specify "multi" and when the button is > clicked, concatenate all the selected options and insert it into a standard > text field. > > The 3rd option involves an RQL "write" which has to happen outside the page > instance. So they script has to live somewhere else and be called > asynchronously. When the write is done, you force a re-load of the page and > the selected value will be shown. > > The trouble with the 3rd is that it is laborious for the developer. Every > time the page loads, you also need to parse the standard text field value, > parse them apart and populate them accordingly in the multi-select so that > the user knows what has been selected. > > Henry Lu > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Simon Lewis, UK < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I have a template where I need users to be able to say "This page >> falls into the following categories:" and then select any number of >> those categories. I'm aware there's no built-in way of doing that, >> but have never had to find a workaround until now. >> >> I thought of creating a simple HTML/JavaScript popup with a set of >> checkboxes, and getting that to output a comma-separated value for >> putting in a placeholder. That would be ideal, except it needs RQL or >> something to then write that value back to the page. >> >> Are there any bright ideas out there for getting me over this hurdle? >> >> Thanks very much! >> >> Simon Lewis. >> >> >> > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: File Upload from a form:
Wouldn't you just need an image or media element placeholder on your template? On Nov 19, 4:49 pm, mave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Can I upload a file to the Reddot CMS via a webform? If yes can you > please let me know how to do that? > > Thanks, > Mave. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: No multi-value placeholder in RedDot... what are the alternatives?
Hi, maybe this helps: http://www.reddotcmsblog.com/reddot-cms-plugin-checkbox-or-radio-button-editing Cheers, Frederic --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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RE: RedDot gripes
Just to jump on the thought-train. While Reddot may have issues, so does every other CMS out there. We've used a number of the major players over the last few years and none are perfect, it just depends on what you are looking for in a system. What may be a major issue to one person isn't important to another. I've seen comments about the bug/support system from Reddot. Believe me, there are far worse out there. One of the leading CMS vendors, who shall remain unnamed, couldn't even get their training course material to be bug free... you were unable to complete the course exercises as they were missing some of the necessary components on the installation CDs. You can only imagine what state their support system was like ;) Question for Frederic... are there any plans for an English section to the user forums/wiki? Paul -Original Message- From: RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of markus giesen Sent: Wed, November 19,2008 20:45 To: RedDot CMS Users Subject: Re: RedDot gripes I work with RedDot since 2001/2002. And it definetly was state of the art at this time. I can agree that there are a lot of open source CMS out there, like TYPO3 which back in the days was not that good but since now made some great efforts. But still I'm ore than sure, that RedDot has it's place in the enterprise cms world. The bugs and how they manage them is definetly something to discuss, but I think another blog which only figures out the negative sites or maybe negative ones is the wrong platform. Better publish some articles in a forum, I think even the google group is not the final solution for reddot related information. On 19 Nov., 20:29, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to publicise some bugs, design flaws, and usability issues > relating to RedDot, for those who might be evaluating it. I'm trying > to foster debate about what kinds of features a modern day CMS needs > and how they might be implemented. I'm trying to gauge public opinion > - to what extent am I on my own here, and how much do others share my > thoughts? I'm trying to let off some steam. > > On Nov 19, 7:15 pm, "Adam Boyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't think you've really answered Morgan's first question. > > > You're interested in the comments, but what are you trying to achieve with > > your blog? > > > What purpose do you hope the comments generated by your blog will serve? > > > Adam > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sayno more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1. I'm interested in the comments, as evidenced - I think - by my > > > responses > > > to them. I'd like responses to my blog posts which are not "how do I do > > > this" type questions, which would obviously not be appropriate in a blog > > > format, by critical evaluations of a piece of software, and its design. > > > > 2. I'll be interested to see how many of the gripes have been, or will be, > > > addressed. As you point out, some of these gripes are genuine flaws of the > > > software as it stands right now, and will be useful information for those > > > who are considering adopting RedDot for their website. > > > > 3. This sounds quite positive, so we'll all wait and see what the outcome > > > is. > > > > 4. I've done just that with a dedicated follow-up post. Thanks. > > > > 2008/11/18 theHam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Hey [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > >> 1. to clarify what you are trying to achieve with these blog posts, > > >> are you attempting to get some assistance and/or information with the > > >> issues you are describing? I think from the amount of people that have > > >> contributed to this post already that it should be demonstrated that > > >> there are people here looking to help you if you want it. Or from the > > >> sounds of your comment "I cannot see how I could possibly get a > > >> positive outcome from this software, given the flaws that, IMO, are > > >> pretty fundamental" have you made a decision and will not be > > >> interested in the comments from people here? If you could let everyone > > >> be aware of your position i think it will help the more passionate > > >> people here and hopefully stop this becoming an unproductive flame war > > >> (as these things types of threads tend to become) > > > >> 2. "I would love it if the RedDot engineers took some notice of these > > >> comments." RedDot have taken notice of these comments. The next > > >> version of reddot coming out will be addressing your gripe #1 as the > > >> text editor is being replaced. Gripe #2 is being addressed (i believe > > >> around may next year) with a cms frontend rewrite based on usability > > >> fundamentals. Yes these have not been released yet and do not address > > >> your issues "right now" but based on my previous comment other gripes > > >> like the ones you have been mentioned have in the past been > > >> progressively acknowledged and addressed - there is hope. > > > >> 3. You ask
Running asp code
Ok, this is my problem... i can run anythign under hte son for asp except... anythign doign wihta request. I was told that we would need to setup our liveserver to send the asp code to iis and then back. I am just unclear on how to get that setting into liveserver... I wanted to know if anyone has done this and how can i go about doing this. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
List Order
When users add pages through a list element they are entered in, in the opposite direction of the nav manager. So when I call a nav area I created through the list the order is upside down. How can I fix this? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
isActive isCurrent
Hi,
I've spent an insane amount of time trying to get isActive and
isCurrent to work on my site -- and it just doesn't. I followed the
instructions in the RedDot Community article and had to make a few
modifications for my particular situation. Basically, the nav I'm
looking to get is this:
Item 1 (not active)
Item 1 subnav 1 (not active)
Item 1 subnav 2 (not active)
Item 2 (ACTIVE)
Item 2 subnav 1 (not active)
Item 2 subnav 2 (ACTIVE)
This is in my foundation template:
<% If isCurrent("<%list_LeftNav%>") Then %>
Current: <
%hdl_Headline%><%con_leftnav_selected%>
<% ElseIf isActive("<%list_LeftNav%>") Then %>
Active: <
%hdl_Headline%><%con_leftnav_selected%>
<% Else %>
None: <%hdl_Headline%><%con_leftnav_nonselected%>
<% end if %>
The templates for con_leftnav_selected and con_leftnav_nonselected are
exactly the same for now, but eventually I want to also have
preexecute script in there to determine which item I'm currently on.
I'm really stumped with this. I can't believe I'm the first person to
need nested isActive isCurrent functionality... and for now I an't
even get the main level to display correctly.
Kristy
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Re: No multi-value placeholder in RedDot... what are the alternatives?
Many thanks to both of you. I've gone with the plugin that Frederic recommended. Wow... it works a treat! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: File Upload from a form:
No, I can't use the ASP.NET as this is not running on IIS but a unix box. I think webservice and reference dynament may help. But I am not sure how to use them. Anybody ever used it? Thanks, Mave On Nov 20, 7:14 am, camdev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't you just need an image or media element placeholder on your > template? > > On Nov 19, 4:49 pm, mave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Can I upload a file to the Reddot CMS via a webform? If yes can you > > please let me know how to do that? > > > Thanks, > > Mave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: isActive isCurrent
Couple of questions:
Where did you put your actual isActive isCurrent asp functions?
Also, where is your code to create the breadcrumb string used by the
two functions?
You are using anc_Main for your href, but lst_LeftNav as the
controlling list - what is anc_Main?
Wayne.
On Nov 20, 9:41 am, Kristy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've spent an insane amount of time trying to get isActive and
> isCurrent to work on my site -- and it just doesn't. I followed the
> instructions in the RedDot Community article and had to make a few
> modifications for my particular situation. Basically, the nav I'm
> looking to get is this:
>
> Item 1 (not active)
> Item 1 subnav 1 (not active)
> Item 1 subnav 2 (not active)
>
> Item 2 (ACTIVE)
> Item 2 subnav 1 (not active)
> Item 2 subnav 2 (ACTIVE)
>
> This is in my foundation template:
>
>
>
> <% If isCurrent("<%list_LeftNav%>") Then %>
>
> Current: <
> %hdl_Headline%><%con_leftnav_selected%>
>
> <% ElseIf isActive("<%list_LeftNav%>") Then %>
>
> Active: <
> %hdl_Headline%><%con_leftnav_selected%>
>
> <% Else %>
>
> None: <%hdl_Headline%> A><%con_leftnav_nonselected%>
>
> <% end if %>
>
>
>
> The templates for con_leftnav_selected and con_leftnav_nonselected are
> exactly the same for now, but eventually I want to also have
> preexecute script in there to determine which item I'm currently on.
>
> I'm really stumped with this. I can't believe I'm the first person to
> need nested isActive isCurrent functionality... and for now I an't
> even get the main level to display correctly.
>
> Kristy
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Re: List Order
Hmm, I don't know if there's a fix for this at all: RedDot always attaches new items in lists and containers at the top while Navigation Manager always sorts it top down. The only way to fix this would be the use of RQL. But there's no "page created" event, where you can attach your RQL script to. So I think this would be quite tricky. We hat this issue quite often but no solution sofar. So I really would appreciate any hint on that matter. ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: RedDot gripes
Never let it be said that I don't listen to constructive criticism. Blog moved: http://reddotmusings.blogspot.com/ Blog renamed: RedDot CMS: gripes and goodies Real name disclosed: Jonathan Frazier (I'm hoping my name will appear correctly against these posts; I'm still using the same 'anonymous' email address) And, as of tomorrow, I shall be adding some 'goodies' to the blog. Tomorrow's gripe has a closely-related goody, which I'm hoping will help showcase some of the positives. I /have/ been struggling to come up with some good features of RedDot that I really value, however; perhaps some of the contributors here could help out. I'd love to hear, for example, you top three favourite features of RedDot. Regards, - Jonathan On 20 Nov, 15:04, "Smith Paul \(SLH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to jump on the thought-train. While Reddot may have issues, so does > every other CMS out there. We've used a number of the major players over the > last few years and none are perfect, it just depends on what you are looking > for in a system. What may be a major issue to one person isn't important to > another. > > I've seen comments about the bug/support system from Reddot. Believe me, > there are far worse out there. One of the leading CMS vendors, who shall > remain unnamed, couldn't even get their training course material to be bug > free... you were unable to complete the course exercises as they were missing > some of the necessary components on the installation CDs. You can only > imagine what state their support system was like ;) > > Question for Frederic... are there any plans for an English section to the > user forums/wiki? > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of markus giesen > Sent: Wed, November 19,2008 20:45 > To: RedDot CMS Users > Subject: Re: RedDot gripes > > I work with RedDot since 2001/2002. And it definetly was state of the > art at this time. > I can agree that there are a lot of open source CMS out there, like > TYPO3 which back in the days was not that good but since now made some > great efforts. > But still I'm ore than sure, that RedDot has it's place in the > enterprise cms world. > The bugs and how they manage them is definetly something to discuss, > but I think another blog which only figures out the negative sites or > maybe negative ones is the wrong platform. > Better publish some articles in a forum, I think even the google group > is not the final solution for reddot related information. > > On 19 Nov., 20:29, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm trying to publicise some bugs, design flaws, and usability issues > > relating to RedDot, for those who might be evaluating it. I'm trying > > to foster debate about what kinds of features a modern day CMS needs > > and how they might be implemented. I'm trying to gauge public opinion > > - to what extent am I on my own here, and how much do others share my > > thoughts? I'm trying to let off some steam. > > > On Nov 19, 7:15 pm, "Adam Boyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't think you've really answered Morgan's first question. > > > > You're interested in the comments, but what are you trying to achieve with > > > your blog? > > > > What purpose do you hope the comments generated by your blog will serve? > > > > Adam > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sayno more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 1. I'm interested in the comments, as evidenced - I think - by my > > > > responses > > > > to them. I'd like responses to my blog posts which are not "how do I do > > > > this" type questions, which would obviously not be appropriate in a blog > > > > format, by critical evaluations of a piece of software, and its design. > > > > > 2. I'll be interested to see how many of the gripes have been, or will > > > > be, > > > > addressed. As you point out, some of these gripes are genuine flaws of > > > > the > > > > software as it stands right now, and will be useful information for > > > > those > > > > who are considering adopting RedDot for their website. > > > > > 3. This sounds quite positive, so we'll all wait and see what the > > > > outcome > > > > is. > > > > > 4. I've done just that with a dedicated follow-up post. Thanks. > > > > > 2008/11/18 theHam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> Hey [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > > >> 1. to clarify what you are trying to achieve with these blog posts, > > > >> are you attempting to get some assistance and/or information with the > > > >> issues you are describing? I think from the amount of people that have > > > >> contributed to this post already that it should be demonstrated that > > > >> there are people here looking to help you if you want it. Or from the > > > >> sounds of your comment "I cannot see how I could possibly get a > > > >> positive outcome from this software, given the flaws that, IMO, are > > > >> pretty fundamental" have you made a decision and
Re: RedDot gripes
(OK, NOW my real name should be showing :-) Hi Paul, I'm not looking for perfection - as you suggest, it probably does not - and cannot - exist. However, I am interested in why RedDot (and, again, other CMS products) seem to fall so short (IMHO) of the quality I have come to expect from web applications and other software. Take something like trac, for example. Whilst it is an absolute pig to install, in general, it is a very usable, high-quality product, with an excellent accompanying community. It does its job very well indeed. I reiterate: maybe a 'CMS' is just too big a product to ever really be as clean, usable, and robust as other types of software. - Jonathan On 20 Nov, 15:04, "Smith Paul \(SLH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to jump on the thought-train. While Reddot may have issues, so does > every other CMS out there. We've used a number of the major players over the > last few years and none are perfect, it just depends on what you are looking > for in a system. What may be a major issue to one person isn't important to > another. > > I've seen comments about the bug/support system from Reddot. Believe me, > there are far worse out there. One of the leading CMS vendors, who shall > remain unnamed, couldn't even get their training course material to be bug > free... you were unable to complete the course exercises as they were missing > some of the necessary components on the installation CDs. You can only > imagine what state their support system was like ;) > > Question for Frederic... are there any plans for an English section to the > user forums/wiki? > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of markus giesen > Sent: Wed, November 19,2008 20:45 > To: RedDot CMS Users > Subject: Re: RedDot gripes > > I work with RedDot since 2001/2002. And it definetly was state of the > art at this time. > I can agree that there are a lot of open source CMS out there, like > TYPO3 which back in the days was not that good but since now made some > great efforts. > But still I'm ore than sure, that RedDot has it's place in the > enterprise cms world. > The bugs and how they manage them is definetly something to discuss, > but I think another blog which only figures out the negative sites or > maybe negative ones is the wrong platform. > Better publish some articles in a forum, I think even the google group > is not the final solution for reddot related information. > > On 19 Nov., 20:29, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm trying to publicise some bugs, design flaws, and usability issues > > relating to RedDot, for those who might be evaluating it. I'm trying > > to foster debate about what kinds of features a modern day CMS needs > > and how they might be implemented. I'm trying to gauge public opinion > > - to what extent am I on my own here, and how much do others share my > > thoughts? I'm trying to let off some steam. > > > On Nov 19, 7:15 pm, "Adam Boyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't think you've really answered Morgan's first question. > > > > You're interested in the comments, but what are you trying to achieve with > > > your blog? > > > > What purpose do you hope the comments generated by your blog will serve? > > > > Adam > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sayno more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 1. I'm interested in the comments, as evidenced - I think - by my > > > > responses > > > > to them. I'd like responses to my blog posts which are not "how do I do > > > > this" type questions, which would obviously not be appropriate in a blog > > > > format, by critical evaluations of a piece of software, and its design. > > > > > 2. I'll be interested to see how many of the gripes have been, or will > > > > be, > > > > addressed. As you point out, some of these gripes are genuine flaws of > > > > the > > > > software as it stands right now, and will be useful information for > > > > those > > > > who are considering adopting RedDot for their website. > > > > > 3. This sounds quite positive, so we'll all wait and see what the > > > > outcome > > > > is. > > > > > 4. I've done just that with a dedicated follow-up post. Thanks. > > > > > 2008/11/18 theHam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> Hey [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > > >> 1. to clarify what you are trying to achieve with these blog posts, > > > >> are you attempting to get some assistance and/or information with the > > > >> issues you are describing? I think from the amount of people that have > > > >> contributed to this post already that it should be demonstrated that > > > >> there are people here looking to help you if you want it. Or from the > > > >> sounds of your comment "I cannot see how I could possibly get a > > > >> positive outcome from this software, given the flaws that, IMO, are > > > >> pretty fundamental" have you made a decision and will not be > > > >> interested in the comments from people
Re: Pagination of list items...
Hi, We too use a jquery pagination library to show multiple items. I guess if you are following good RD priniciples you wont have more than 200 odd items on a list to start off with so it works well. If you also have a fade effect so nothing is seen till the page load it works well. Fortunately the jquery plugin Im using below handles the pagination and linking really well. http://9am.ten.com.au/recipes-pasta-and-noodles-and-rice.htm We use this a lot and it works well. Cheers, BjP On Nov 20, 2:01 am, bobbykjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S. There's potential for the list (of several hundred items) to > include an image per item, so the javascript method is not really > appropriate. Although I could do some dynamic image loading based on > which items are actually showing, I guess. But those without JS would > not see the images, and I'm not sure that's good enough. > > On Nov 19, 3:59 pm, bobbykjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yup, I too have had to resort to a complex combination of RedDot + > > PHP, but it's just about working. I have a RedDot page that contains a > > list of other pages (the items in the final list). Certain data is > > transferred from each item into the top-level page. The top-level page > > is then published as a PHP file containing all that data in an array. > > A separate PHP page includes the first, then manipulates the data as > > it sees fit. > > > Would be a lot easier and a LOT cleaner with a standard PHP/database > > setup, so I'm weighing up options to decouple it from RedDot. > > > - Bobby > > > On Nov 19, 11:12 am, abdn_webteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just a quick note to say we tried this method and it worked fine, > > > though we baulked at the idea of having a thousand news stories > > > rendered on one page. We therefore tried an alternative method of > > > combining PHP comment tags and conditional statements to simply > > > discard the unshown pages, and created a multi-pass to show the next/ > > > previous pages. Works well, with little overhead. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RedDot CMS Users" group. To post to this group, send email to RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/RedDot-CMS-Users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Re: RedDot gripes
I'm totally excited about your blog Jonathan! You rock dude. Best Regards, Adam PS: Seriously, you're the man. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > (OK, NOW my real name should be showing :-) > > Hi Paul, > > I'm not looking for perfection - as you suggest, it probably does not > - and cannot - exist. However, I am interested in why RedDot (and, > again, other CMS products) seem to fall so short (IMHO) of the quality > I have come to expect from web applications and other software. > > Take something like trac, for example. Whilst it is an absolute pig to > install, in general, it is a very usable, high-quality product, with > an excellent accompanying community. It does its job very well indeed. > > I reiterate: maybe a 'CMS' is just too big a product to ever really be > as clean, usable, and robust as other types of software. > > - Jonathan > > On 20 Nov, 15:04, "Smith Paul \(SLH\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Just to jump on the thought-train. While Reddot may have issues, so > does every other CMS out there. We've used a number of the major players > over the last few years and none are perfect, it just depends on what you > are looking for in a system. What may be a major issue to one person isn't > important to another. > > > > I've seen comments about the bug/support system from Reddot. Believe me, > there are far worse out there. One of the leading CMS vendors, who shall > remain unnamed, couldn't even get their training course material to be bug > free... you were unable to complete the course exercises as they were > missing some of the necessary components on the installation CDs. You can > only imagine what state their support system was like ;) > > > > Question for Frederic... are there any plans for an English section to > the user forums/wiki? > > > > Paul > > > > -Original Message- > > From: RedDot-CMS-Users@googlegroups.com [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of markus giesen > > Sent: Wed, November 19,2008 20:45 > > To: RedDot CMS Users > > Subject: Re: RedDot gripes > > > > I work with RedDot since 2001/2002. And it definetly was state of the > > art at this time. > > I can agree that there are a lot of open source CMS out there, like > > TYPO3 which back in the days was not that good but since now made some > > great efforts. > > But still I'm ore than sure, that RedDot has it's place in the > > enterprise cms world. > > The bugs and how they manage them is definetly something to discuss, > > but I think another blog which only figures out the negative sites or > > maybe negative ones is the wrong platform. > > Better publish some articles in a forum, I think even the google group > > is not the final solution for reddot related information. > > > > On 19 Nov., 20:29, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > I'm trying to publicise some bugs, design flaws, and usability issues > > > relating to RedDot, for those who might be evaluating it. I'm trying > > > to foster debate about what kinds of features a modern day CMS needs > > > and how they might be implemented. I'm trying to gauge public opinion > > > - to what extent am I on my own here, and how much do others share my > > > thoughts? I'm trying to let off some steam. > > > > > On Nov 19, 7:15 pm, "Adam Boyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think you've really answered Morgan's first question. > > > > > > You're interested in the comments, but what are you trying to achieve > with > > > > your blog? > > > > > > What purpose do you hope the comments generated by your blog will > serve? > > > > > > Adam > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sayno more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > 1. I'm interested in the comments, as evidenced - I think - by my > responses > > > > > to them. I'd like responses to my blog posts which are not "how do > I do > > > > > this" type questions, which would obviously not be appropriate in a > blog > > > > > format, by critical evaluations of a piece of software, and its > design. > > > > > > > 2. I'll be interested to see how many of the gripes have been, or > will be, > > > > > addressed. As you point out, some of these gripes are genuine flaws > of the > > > > > software as it stands right now, and will be useful information for > those > > > > > who are considering adopting RedDot for their website. > > > > > > > 3. This sounds quite positive, so we'll all wait and see what the > outcome > > > > > is. > > > > > > > 4. I've done just that with a dedicated follow-up post. Thanks. > > > > > > > 2008/11/18 theHam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >> Hey [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > > > > > >> 1. to clarify what you are trying to achieve with these blog > posts, > > > > >> are you attempting to get some assistance and/or information with > the > > > > >> issues you are describing? I think from the amount of people that > have > > > > >> contributed to this post already that it should be demonstrated > that
