Re: Private LANs FQDN

[Anthony E. Greene]

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Patrick Nelson wrote:
>I'm just not sure what is the best way to name systems on the private
>side of our LAN.  We tried using just single names but some programs
>seem to have problems with it.  Like NIS and SendMail.  What is the best
>way to name systems on a LAN behind a firewall that don't have internet
>names?

I use "localdomain", eg: linuxbox.localdomain.

Tony
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Newbie gets errors on restarting computer

[Daniel Goldin]

Everytime I restart the computer after it's turned off in an unnatural
way--for example, power-outage--I get filesystem errors.

Example : "inode 543546 i_block is 125, should be 88."

I get a lot of these. In fact. I had to run fsck manually today.

Anybody know what's going on? BTW, I'm running redhat 7.1.


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Re: Private LANs FQDN

[Peter Kiem]

Hi Patrick,

> I'm just not sure what is the best way to name systems on the private side
> of our LAN.  We tried using just single names but some programs seem to have
> problems with it.  Like NIS and SendMail.  What is the best way to name
> systems on a LAN behind a firewall that don't have internet names?

How about singlename.localdomain ?

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Private LANs FQDN

[Patrick Nelson]

I'm just not sure what is the best way to name systems on the private side
of our LAN.  We tried using just single names but some programs seem to have
problems with it.  Like NIS and SendMail.  What is the best way to name
systems on a LAN behind a firewall that don't have internet names?



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Re: I'm behind again

[ABrady]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:03:51 -0600
Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> implied:

> I got busy and have not had the time to catchup on the 600+ messages
to
> this list that I have not read.  Would every one please not send any
> more mails for a day or two so I can get caught up?  I hate to just
> declare them read and dump 'em because I learn so much by reading this
> list.

Absolutely. And to show you I mean it, I won't reply to this one either
until you have had time to catch up on all of the others. Just let me
know when to hit 'send' and I'll do it, okay?

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How can I umount the loopback file system correctly?

[huter liu]

Hi,everyone!
 I just downloaded the RH7.2 iso files in my harddisk,I know the iso files can be 
mounted in file system directly,I do it use mount command:mount 
/where/iso/is/enigma-i386-disc1.iso -t iso9660 -o loop back /var/ftp/rh72/cd1,it's 
Ok,so I wonder why not mount it automatically via /etc/fstab???so I append two line in 
fstab file,/where/iso/is/enigma-i386-disc1.iso /var/ftp/rh72/disc1 iso9660 ro,loop 0 
0,when I boot the system it work Ok,but when I reboot or halt the system,it can't be 
umount automatically...Is there something odd with loopback file system???
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Re: ide bus speed not optimal?

[christopher j bottaro]

i'm running the kernel that comes with redhat 7.2.  (i think its 2.4.7 or 
2.4.9).  i have an abit kt7 (i know it has a UDMA 66 controller).

i tried "idebus=66" but then dmesg said something about not being able to do 
that and to try "ide0=ata66" instead.  so i tried that, and now dmesg | grep 
66 shows:

Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/hda5 hdd=ide-scsi ide0=ata66
ide_setup: ide0=ata66
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 22) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci00:07.1
VP_IDE: ATA-66/100 forced bit set (WARNING)!!
hda: 78165360 sectors (40021 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=4865/255/63, UDMA(66)

any idea what the warning is about?  oh well, at least the last line says 
"UDMA(66)" now...=)

christopher

On Tuesday 13 November 2001 10:04 pm, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2001 05:14 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, christopher j bottaro wrote:
> > > ide: Assuming 33MHz PCI bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> > > idebus=xx hda: 78165360 sectors (40021 MB) w/2048KiB Cache,
> > > CHS=4865/255/63, UDMA(33)
> > >
> > > but my hard drives are UDMA 100, how do i get them to run at optimal
> > > speed?
> >
> > What kernel are you running?  What motherboard?
> >
> > If the kernel reports the drives as UDMA 33, then your motherboard's
> > controller is probably only a UDMA 33 controller.
>
> I have the same thing here.
> With both kernel-2.4.9-13 and kernel-2.4.13-0.5 on a DFI  CA64-TN
> motherboard:
>
> ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx
>
> VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686b (rev 40) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:07.1
>
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
>
> hda: WDC WD205BA, ATA DISK drive
> hdb: WDC AC310200R, ATA DISK drive
>
> hda: 40088160 sectors (20525 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=2495/255/63,
> UDMA(33)
> hdb: 20044080 sectors (10263 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=1247/255/63, UDMA(33)
>
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Re: I'm behind again

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 11:32 PM -0500, you wrote:
>Eh?  So let's see...  You fell behind, so we're all supposed to stop and
>wait for you?  Get real.

Jason... you need to drink less coffee. Now, go back and read the man's 
post again. See the sarcasm dripping? He was KIDDING, dear sir.

Lay off the caffeinated mints, too.


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Re: I'm behind again

[Jason Costomiris]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:03:51PM -0600, Bret Hughes wrote:
: I got busy and have not had the time to catchup on the 600+ messages to
: this list that I have not read.  Would every one please not send any
: more mails for a day or two so I can get caught up?  I hate to just
: declare them read and dump 'em because I learn so much by reading this
: list.

Eh?  So let's see...  You fell behind, so we're all supposed to stop and
wait for you?  Get real.



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RAID 1 question

[Justin Zygmont]

I'm wondering if anyone's tried to raid a fat partition on a dual boot
system?  I know booting dos would throw the raid out of sync, would there
be a way to resynchronize it after?




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xhost

[Blake Thornton]

I'm not sure why xhost behaves as it does and was hoping someone could 
tell me.

As a normal user, if I su to root, I can run just about everything in X --
emacs, galeon, netscape.  But not up2date.  So, as a normal user, I can
type

xhost +localhost

and now, when I su root, I can also run up2date.

So, my question is, why can root only run somethings and not others?

Also,  is there a better alternative then using xhost to be able to do 
this?  I seem to recall hearing there was a better way, but I don't recall 
what it is.

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Re: Kernel upgrade with up2date: your results?

[Mike Burger]

Yes.

Up2date does a "rpm -U"...but it doesn't edit your lilo.conf file and 
doesn't run lilo.

If you're going to upgrade your kernel with a prepackaged RPM, download 
it, yourself, install it with "rpm -i" and then edit your lilo.conf file 
and run lilo...

You can, using "rpm -i", install multiple kernels...this way, you can keep 
your current kernel in place, and test the new one, first.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, John P. Verel wrote:

> I'm contemplating a kernel upgrade using up2date.  Anyone ever have any
> problems with this?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: setting up email

[EdwardSPL]

Mike Irwin wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:18:59PM -0700, doug piper wrote:
> > I have attempted to set up sendmail, I have attempted to set up
> > fetchmail and I have tried to use Netscape. Nothing so far gets me my
> > email so I am forced to reboot into windows, use my Mac, or use another
> > Windows machine.
>
> Are you on dial-up? What mail client would you like to use? If you don't
> know, I'd recommend Mutt. Lastly, what version of Red Hat are you using?
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Hello,

What is Mutt ?
Easy to install and esay to use ?
Thank,

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Re: Copying Filesystems

[Cameron Simpson]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 07:57:44PM -0600, Mike Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Will rsync copy the hidden files too?

There's no such thing as a hidden file on UNIX.

| What about static and symbolic links?

There's no such thing as a static link. If you mean "hard link" then make sure
you use the -H flag to rsync.

Soft/symbolic links copy just fine.
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Re: Bash globbing

[Harry Putnam]

Emmanuel Seyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> ?
> the "^" before "sent" searches for the beginning of the line.
> It will not fail for `unsent' or `notsent' but for `sentun'
> and `sentnot' .

Gack... my original composure, before I started editing also contained 
`sent~' .. The kind of file emacs leaves behind.  That was supposed to
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Re: Kernel upgrade with up2date: your results?

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 10:27 PM -0500, you wrote:
>I'm contemplating a kernel upgrade using up2date.  Anyone ever have any
>problems with this?

Used to be I was told not to do this. So I installed the new kernel with 
"rpm -ivh" so it would install next to the old one, edited lilo.conf by 
hand, ran /sbin/lilo so the new config would "take", then rebooted with my 
heart in my hand.

I am happy to report that I've just installed two 7.2 systems (one clean, 
one upgrade). On both, I immediately told up2date to install the newer 
kernel along with everything else. Up2date handled it well, and upon reboot 
I was offered the option of the new kernel *and* the old for safety, as it 
should be done.

I have tested both, and they work without problems.

P.S. I *lve* GRUB.


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RE: Kernel upgrade with up2date: your results?

[Green, Aaron]

I've done it successfully several times.  If your using LILO, you will have to update 
the conf file.  But GRUB detects the new kernel automaticly.  

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> problems with this?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: Kernel upgrade with up2date: your results?

[ABrady]

Been working fine with 7.1. Worked OK boht on a previous install and a
current install. Had endless problems with 7.2, which is one of several
reasons why I dropped 7.2 and went backward.

> I'm contemplating a kernel upgrade using up2date.  Anyone ever have
any
> problems with this?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Kernel upgrade with up2date: your results?

[John P. Verel]

I'm contemplating a kernel upgrade using up2date.  Anyone ever have any
problems with this?

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RE: Cert problem popping with 7.2 / encrypt pop / imap

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 07:30 PM -0500, you wrote:
>encrypt pop and imap:
>
>1. chkconfig imaps / ipopds or ipop3s (whatever) on
>2. cd /usr/share/ssl/certs
>3. make imapd.pem or ipop3.pem (or whatever)
>4. xinetd reload
>
>That's it!  Now to get it certified - get it from CA?

How to configure the client? Man, I swear if you help me encrypt all email 
and get it working, I'm buying you a few beers the next time I'm in Miami.


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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 08:05 PM -0600, you wrote:
>I seem to remember that Eudora also supports several different authentication
>modes including one that sendmail and POP don't support.  Check to see if 
>you're
>using "passwords" instead of kerberos, APOP or RPA.

A good and worthy thought; however, "passwords" is the default and I had 
also specifically double-checked it. As I said, the same config works on a 
7.0 server with all updates... unfortunately the problem is not so obvious.

Thank you for playing, however!


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modules after a recompile

[BobH]

Hi,
  Having at least been somewhat successful in recompiling and starting to
play with NAT another question arises.  Using kernel 2.4.9-13, modules are
installed in /lib/modules/2.4.9-13custom directory.  Now is there a way to
change that name and still have the kernel see the correct module
directory.

  Also, the originial set of modules from the working system that I keep in
say /lib/modules/2.4.9-13.original are no longer available to the original
kernel which I keep as a 'safe' startup.  I am using grub.  How can I make
the original kernel see its' set of modules if I choose it rather than the
newest kernel?

TIA

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Re: setting up email

[Anthony E. Greene]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, doug piper wrote:
>I am running 6.0. I would choose one of the non GUI email clients
>available after having tried them after I can receive email on Linux.  
>
>The problem with Netscape beyond the ugly fonts (another issue) is that
>it doesn't get me my email. I can set up a Mac or Windows machine in a
>couple of minutes but Netscape on Linux brings me no messages. 

What error messages do you see?

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KDE GUI for IPTables?

[Mike Burger]

Can anyone point me at a GUI config/monitor for KDE that will read my existing
IPTables configuration, keep it intact, and then allow me to add to it, 
subtract from it, and monitor hits, etc?

So far, all the ones I've tried don't seem to recognize the already running
configuration.

I suppose Gnome based tools would be ok, too.

However, firestarter is out...it adds too much extraneous drop routes, right
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Re: setting up email

[Jeremy West]

doug piper wrote:

>This is actually a reply to 2 messages.
>
>I am running 6.0. I would choose one of the non GUI email clients
>available after having tried them after I can receive email on Linux.  
>
>The problem with Netscape beyond the ugly fonts (another issue) is that
>it doesn't get me my email. I can set up a Mac or Windows machine in a
>couple of minutes but Netscape on Linux brings me no messages. 
>
>What could be the difference.
>
>Thanks again,
>
This is interesting, as I use the mozilla messenger, for my email.  I 
have multiple pop, and imap account configured and it works great.  I 
know you're happy with your non guy client, but are you sure you 
configured it right?  I'm not meaning to slam you.  Just wondering why 
it didn't work.  I prefer mozilla over netscape, even though they are 
powered the same way.

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Re: Problem with 7.2 Upgrade: eth0 not recognized - fixed

[Rick Warner]

Sounds more like a BIOS/motherboard issue.  Have you turned off PnP in
the BIOS?  

- rick warner

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Mike Watson wrote:

> This was the standard binary kernel supplied on the distribution disks.
> 
> I've fixed it, but I'm wondering why it didn't fix itself.  I was getting an
> insmod error while trying to load the 3c59x module on startup.  It didn't like
> the IRQ which was 11 just like a PCI NIC on the Dell should have been.  So I
> turned off the NIC, ran kudzu and removed the configuration. Then turned the NIC
> back on, ran kudzu again and went through the configuration.  Still didn't work.
> 
> So finally, I edited modules.conf removing the NIC references, and went through
> the sequence above.  Didn't work on just a reboot, but if I powered off and then
> back up to get a POR, kudzu recognized it and the kernel module was successfully
> loaded.  Apparently once modules.conf had a "bad" entry it stayed bad until I
> manually deleted it from the config file.
> 
> COuld this be a kudzu problem?
> 
> Mike W
> 
> Jason Taylor wrote:
> > 
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > 
> > You can try recompiling the kernel for support for your NIC. I am
> > quite certain the 503 is in there, you might be able to insmod it if
> > it is built as a module.
> > 
> > - -Jason
> 
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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Mike Watson]

I seem to remember that Eudora also supports several different authentication
modes including one that sendmail and POP don't support.  Check to see if you're
using "passwords" instead of kerberos, APOP or RPA.

mw

"Rodolfo J. Paiz" wrote:
> 
> At 11/14/2001 07:39 AM -0800, you wrote:
> >Seems to me, that there is a setting in Eudora to use SSL.  But I'd guess
> >you've already checked that.
> 
> I've told Eudora always to use SSL "if available." This was always my
> normal config, and have not changed it. However, I've tried "always" and
> "never" now and neither works.
> 
> Note that I wasn't trying to encrypt; I was just trying to POP. Encryption
> I'll try later.
> 
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Re: Copying Filesystems

[Mike Watson]

Will rsync copy the hidden files too?  What about static and symbolic links?

mw

Cameron Simpson wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:43:27PM -0600, Mike Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I've just installed a larger disk and want to move my / and /boot filesystems
> | from the current (and smaller) disk to the new larger disk.  Is there an easy way
> | to do this? would rsync be suitable?  I've never done this with linux/unix.
> 
> Rsync should be fine. It would be best to come up single user, mount
> originals read only, mount targets read write, rsync (with the -x flag -
> very important!).
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Problem with 7.2 Upgrade: eth0 not recognized - fixed

[Mike Watson]

This was the standard binary kernel supplied on the distribution disks.

I've fixed it, but I'm wondering why it didn't fix itself.  I was getting an
insmod error while trying to load the 3c59x module on startup.  It didn't like
the IRQ which was 11 just like a PCI NIC on the Dell should have been.  So I
turned off the NIC, ran kudzu and removed the configuration. Then turned the NIC
back on, ran kudzu again and went through the configuration.  Still didn't work.

So finally, I edited modules.conf removing the NIC references, and went through
the sequence above.  Didn't work on just a reboot, but if I powered off and then
back up to get a POR, kudzu recognized it and the kernel module was successfully
loaded.  Apparently once modules.conf had a "bad" entry it stayed bad until I
manually deleted it from the config file.

COuld this be a kudzu problem?

Mike W

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> it is built as a module.
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Re: Bash globbing

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:26:10PM +0100, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, how about
>>> echo `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
>>
>> Damn! I should have thought of that.
>> Thanks to both of you.
>
>Both: 
>s#Mail/sent## 
>and 
>`ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
>Will fail in the event of filenames like `unsent' or `notsent'

Not quite. The pattern '^sent' will not match "unsent" or "notsent".
However, it will not perform as intended for files like sent-mail. So how
about this:

  echo `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent$'`

This pattern anchors both the beginning and the end of the string so only
one filename can match. The user may need to look at ways to exclude
directories since they do not contain messages.

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Re: setting up email

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:18:59PM -0700, doug piper wrote:
> 
> I'd appreciate any bits of wisdom anyone can throw at me.

Hey, Doug.

Can you answer these for me?

What type of connection do you have between you and
the mailserver (dail-up, cable, DSL, LAN)?
Can you ping the mail server you're trying to connect to?
Can you telnet to port 110?
Does running `fetchmail -v` with the following in your .fetchmailrc
file do anything:
poll SERVER proto pop3 user USER password PASS fetchall

where SERVER is the name of the machine you're connecting to,
USER your username and PASS your password.

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Re: Bash globbing

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:25:15PM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote:
> 
> Both: 
> s#Mail/sent## 
> and 
> `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
> Will fail in the event of filenames like `unsent' or `notsent'

?
the "^" before "sent" searches for the beginning of the line.
It will not fail for `unsent' or `notsent' but for `sentun'
and `sentnot' .

[seyman@munshine tmp]$ ll
total 0
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 bar
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 foo
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 notsent
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 sent
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:06 sentnot
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:06 sentun
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 titi
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 toto
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:05 unsent
[seyman@munshine tmp]$ ls ~/tmp | grep -v '^sent'
bar
foo
notsent
titi
toto
unsent

Completing the line like this (as I did in my script):

ls ~/tmp | grep -v '^sent$'

makes sure that only the file `sent' is excluded.

[seyman@munshine tmp]$ ls ~/tmp | grep -v '^sent$'
bar
foo
notsent
sentnot
sentun
titi
toto
unsent

As for sed s#Mail/sent##, it will filter out only the first sent
and will definatly not react to `unsent' or `notsent'

[seyman@munshine seyman]$ ll tmp/*
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:24 tmp/notsent
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:21 tmp/sent
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:21 tmp/sent.
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:21 tmp/senta
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:24 tmp/unsent
[seyman@munshine seyman]$ echo tmp/* | sed s#tmp/sent##
tmp/notsent  tmp/sent. tmp/senta tmp/unsent

> >> ls Mail/[a-rt-z]*
> >> It will show all files except those beginning with `s'
> >
> > As I said in my first message, close but not close enough.
> 
> Really?.. All I see is:
> `echo [^sent]*`
> `echo [^s]*`
> 
> I see no examples of `ls' at all.

My "close but not close enough" refers to the "It will show..." line,
not the one directly above it.
I assure you that [^s]* is equivalent to [a-rt-z]* except in
regards of it really showing all files except those beginning with
`s' (even those starting with capitals or digits).

Please don't take any notice of ls vs echo.
The idea is to show all the filenames except sent, which these
commands both do. The differences are details.

> Can you show an example of what gets included with above 
> `ls [a-rt-z]*' syntax,
> changing the name if need be, to something that conveys the problem?

[seyman@munshine seyman]$ ll tmp/*
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:27 tmp/Bar
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:27 tmp/Foo
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:30 tmp/bar
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:30 tmp/foo
-rw-rw-r--1 seyman   seyman  0 nov 15 01:27 tmp/sent
[seyman@munshine seyman]$ ls tmp/[a-rt-z]*
tmp/bar  tmp/foo

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RE: Cert problem popping with 7.2 / encrypt pop / imap

[Andrew Judge]

encrypt pop and imap:

1. chkconfig imaps / ipopds or ipop3s (whatever) on
2. cd /usr/share/ssl/certs
3. make imapd.pem or ipop3.pem (or whatever)
4. xinetd reload

That's it!  Now to get it certified - get it from CA?

Andy Judge
Grove Networks Inc.
Miami, FL

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At 11/14/2001 10:23 AM -0600, you wrote:
>is there any advantage to taking advantage of the SSL?

Messages travel encrypted; the advantages are obvious.

>what steps are needed to configure the server to use SSL?

How would I know? Arrrgh; Eric, if you'd read my message, it notes that I 
am not *trying* to secure POP yet; I'm just trying to use POP. Hence I 
don't know why Eudora isn't working. Let's not mix threads, shall we?

Start a new thread: "POP over SSL" or "Encrypting POP" and ask your 
question that way. I (and everyone else) will do our level best to help 
you. But don't confuse the issue on another, existing thread.


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Re: I'm behind again

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Bret Hughes wrote:

>I got busy and have not had the time to catchup on the 600+ messages to
>this list that I have not read.  Would every one please not send any
>more mails for a day or two so I can get caught up?  I hate to just
>declare them read and dump 'em because I learn so much by reading this
>list.

Try:

$ for file in Maildir/ ; do
> cat $file |grep -viE 'spam|annoying\ vacation\ messages' \
> /dev/brain; done

- -d


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I'm behind again

[Bret Hughes]

I got busy and have not had the time to catchup on the 600+ messages to
this list that I have not read.  Would every one please not send any
more mails for a day or two so I can get caught up?  I hate to just
declare them read and dump 'em because I learn so much by reading this
list.

Thank You,
Bret

BTW this is the only one I really worry about.  I have no compunction
regarding deleting the other 2K + messages I have not read as I usually
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lm_sensors and kernel modules

[Nicolas Bock]

Hi,

I tried to post this before, but I think unsuccessfully, so let me try this
again: I am trying to use lm_sensors to monitor my cpu's temperature. As far
as I understand the documentation of this program I will need some kernel
modules that can read out the sensor hardware of my computer. I don't know
though where to find these, as far as I can tell there are not in the
lm_sensors rpm. Does anyone know where I can find them? Do I have to get some
source from somewhere and compile the modules by myself? I know that they are
in the modules shipped with RH7.2, but what do I do if I have compiled my own
kernel?

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Re: previously email

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Doug Piper wrote:

>Since I sent the first message to the list, I have been playing around
>with Netrscape and trying to get it to retreive my email.  Its behavior
>is really bizarre. The version is 4.51.

Netscape stinks.  Download and use the latest Mozilla.  Infinitely 
better mail client, and more stable browser.

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previously email

[Doug Piper]

Since I sent the first message to the list, I have been playing around
with Netrscape and trying to get it to retreive my email.  Its behavior
is really bizarre. The version is 4.51.

I am unable to quit  Netscape. It creates a lock file which I can't
kill. I can rm the lock file but I can't kill the process.  Do I need a
better version or what? I am still not able to get email with Netscape
although I checked my preferences again for the zillionith time.

Actually, I am beginning to really dislike the newer versions of
Netscape on any platform. Each new version is more intrusive and doesn't
do HTML tags properly, i.e.,  always  puts a graphic left
justified.

Thanks,

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Re: rpm4 on RH 6

[Matthew Melvin]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 at 8:33am (-0500), Vincent Cojot wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:00:26PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> > > The problem isn't with upgrading the machines to use rpm4 - we acutally do
> > > that.  The problem is that the version of rpm used by the redhat installer
> > > (anaconda?) itself doens't properly understand packages built with rpmv4.
> > [...]
> >
> > I knew I'd be overlooking something - thanks for the explanation! So, to
> > handle this situation correctly, RH would have needed to provide an update
> > for the installer as well?
> >
> > Cheerio,
> >
> > Thomas
> 
> Hello Martthew and Thomas,
> 
>   In fact, I tried upgrading the Rh6.2 "instimage" directory from
> rpm3 to rpm4 with correct libraries but it didn't seem to work.. I suspect
> this is because rpm-python from "instimage" was built with rpm3 and
> upgrading the "rpm" command under "instimage" doesn't help... The
> behaviour we got when we applied the first rpm4 package to our kickstart
> installs (I believe it was ucd-snmpd*) was that the package would be
> present in the rpm-db but no files (or several missing files) were to be
> found on the actual filesystem.. I may not have investigated that issue
cd> enough but it should be feasible - I think - to upgrade an rpm3-based
> instimage from rh6.2 to an rpm4 tree..

Seems you've been down a fairly similar road to me on this one.  I didn't 
make much more progress than you.  It seems doable but it didn't seem worth 
me learning python to make it happen. :)

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Re: setting up email

[doug piper]

This is actually a reply to 2 messages.

I am running 6.0. I would choose one of the non GUI email clients
available after having tried them after I can receive email on Linux.  

The problem with Netscape beyond the ugly fonts (another issue) is that
it doesn't get me my email. I can set up a Mac or Windows machine in a
couple of minutes but Netscape on Linux brings me no messages. 

What could be the difference.

Thanks again,

Doug

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> >Although I have been using Linux fo quite some time, I still have no
> >clue how to get email working.
> >
> >I have attempted to set up sendmail, I have attempted to set up
> >fetchmail and I have tried to use Netscape. Nothing so far gets me my
> >email so I am forced to reboot into windows, use my Mac, or use another
> >Windows machine.
> 
> GUI-based clients like Netscape Messenger and Mozilla mail work
> exactly like their Windows counterparts.  You just need to know your
> SMTP server and POP/IMAP server, same as always (the ones assigned by
> your ISP).
> 
> What problem are you having?
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Re: setting up email

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doug piper wrote:

>Although I have been using Linux fo quite some time, I still have no
>clue how to get email working.
>
>I have attempted to set up sendmail, I have attempted to set up
>fetchmail and I have tried to use Netscape. Nothing so far gets me my
>email so I am forced to reboot into windows, use my Mac, or use another
>Windows machine.

GUI-based clients like Netscape Messenger and Mozilla mail work 
exactly like their Windows counterparts.  You just need to know your 
SMTP server and POP/IMAP server, same as always (the ones assigned by 
your ISP).

What problem are you having?

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Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

[Jerry Winegarden]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Talkington wrote:

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> >> >> >Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?
> >> >
> >> >Well, you can give the operational equivalent of it by giving it extremely 
> >> >large lease times in dhcpd.conf.  For example:
> >> 
> >> What problem does this solve?
> >
> >I didn't say I was trying to solve his problem.  His post really had two 
> >parts:  help solve my problem; and how do you give infinite leases.
> >
> >I answered the infinite leases question.  Not that it solves his problem, 
> >because it won't.
> 
> Right.  Years of public service have taught me that the first 
> reaction, when someone comes to me and says, "How do I make this 
> convoluted solution work?", should always be skepticism.  People have 
> a nasty habit of half-solving their problems and bringing me the mess 
> they made, instead of coming to me at the ground level to help them 
> define the real problem.  So our job is to gently help them see the 
> forest through the trees.  =)
> 

I agree.  I don't usually just give people what they ask for 
because it's often not what they need.

However, in this case, the dhcp leases info is actually useful for some 
people (it's what I use in my community center installations).  So, I included a 
whole dhcpd.conf file.

Maybe I'll attempt to help him solve the problem.

He doesn't know that dhcpd is actually functioning.  Also, the funky 
Windows dhcp client can be exasperating, too.  For example, I just found a 
place where 2 PC's (new ones just added) couldn't get dhcp-assigned 
numbers, but 5 others appeared to be working.  The local system manager 
did not check his chains box to see if dhcpd was actually running.
He thought maybe we had bad cards in the new box, but what was really 
happening is that the machines that had been working were only making it 
look like they were getting a number from dhcpd; in reality they were just 
remembering what they had used before (funky client).  When I got him to 
actually look at the server, found out that dhcpd was not running 
successfully because the system disk had filled up (probably from some 
repeated error message).  Cleaning up some space, restarting, restarting 
the PC's cleared up the problem.  In this case, the wonderful clients on 
the Doze boxes confused this guy and masked the real problem.

Like I said, maybe I'll take a moment and read about the symptoms.


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Re: RedHat 7.1: kernel 2.4.3-16: mm: critical shortage of bounce buffers.

[Trond Eivind Glomsrød]

"Eric P. Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am running RedHat 7.1 and I am now getting the following message:
>  
> mm:critical shortage of bounce buffers.
>  
> I cannot figure out what it means.
>  
> Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 4400 with 3G RAM running the 2.4.3-16 kernel
> and Oracle 9.0.1.1.

Upgrade the kernel to get a newer highmem kernel.  

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Re: setting up email

[Mike Irwin]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 02:18:59PM -0700, doug piper wrote:
> I have attempted to set up sendmail, I have attempted to set up
> fetchmail and I have tried to use Netscape. Nothing so far gets me my
> email so I am forced to reboot into windows, use my Mac, or use another
> Windows machine.

Are you on dial-up? What mail client would you like to use? If you don't
know, I'd recommend Mutt. Lastly, what version of Red Hat are you using?

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Re: vim, backspace in INSERT mode?

[Statux]

What is TERM set to when you run vim?

echo $TERM

there are a few termtypes that have strange keymaps.

telnet often exhibits this behavior.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Kevin wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Call me crazy but i swear i used to be able to use the
> BACKSPACE key in INSERT mode to delete text in vim. 
> Now all i am getting are lines of Ctrl carrots and ?
> marks.  Did something change in vim from RH7.1 to
> RH7.2?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> VekTeReX
> 
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Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

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>> >> >Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?
>> >
>> >Well, you can give the operational equivalent of it by giving it extremely 
>> >large lease times in dhcpd.conf.  For example:
>> 
>> What problem does this solve?
>
>I didn't say I was trying to solve his problem.  His post really had two 
>parts:  help solve my problem; and how do you give infinite leases.
>
>I answered the infinite leases question.  Not that it solves his problem, 
>because it won't.

Right.  Years of public service have taught me that the first 
reaction, when someone comes to me and says, "How do I make this 
convoluted solution work?", should always be skepticism.  People have 
a nasty habit of half-solving their problems and bringing me the mess 
they made, instead of coming to me at the ground level to help them 
define the real problem.  So our job is to gently help them see the 
forest through the trees.  =)

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setting up email

[doug piper]

Although I have been using Linux fo quite some time, I still have no
clue how to get email working.

I have attempted to set up sendmail, I have attempted to set up
fetchmail and I have tried to use Netscape. Nothing so far gets me my
email so I am forced to reboot into windows, use my Mac, or use another
Windows machine.

Where do I start. (I have read everything that I can get my hands on but
have had not had a breakthrough.) There is nothing exotic about the
server I get my mail from and I have no problems with either Mac or
Windows.

I'd appreciate any bits of wisdom anyone can throw at me.

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Re: vim, backspace in INSERT mode?

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>On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:18:20PM -0500, Kevin wrote:
>> Call me crazy but i swear i used to be able to use the
>> BACKSPACE key in INSERT mode to delete text in vim. 
>> Now all i am getting are lines of Ctrl carrots and ?
>> marks.  Did something change in vim from RH7.1 to
>> RH7.2?

CTRL+H always works.

- -d

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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 10:23 AM -0600, you wrote:
>is there any advantage to taking advantage of the SSL?

Messages travel encrypted; the advantages are obvious.

>what steps are needed to configure the server to use SSL?

How would I know? Arrrgh; Eric, if you'd read my message, it notes that I 
am not *trying* to secure POP yet; I'm just trying to use POP. Hence I 
don't know why Eudora isn't working. Let's not mix threads, shall we?

Start a new thread: "POP over SSL" or "Encrypting POP" and ask your 
question that way. I (and everyone else) will do our level best to help 
you. But don't confuse the issue on another, existing thread.


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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 05:03 PM +0100, you wrote:
>Strange...

Quite.

>Have you tried telnetting to the box to see if you can do POP by hand?

Yes, I had tried it. I succeeded.

>If this works, I'ld look at Eudora's settings.

Same settings as always on Eudora 5.1. Works on sendmail-8.11.6 and 
imap-4.72 on my 7.0 box; upgrading to 7.2 (with imap2000) caused Eudora to 
"break". I just don't know what it is that's actually broken, hence don't 
know how to fix it.


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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Rodolfo J. Paiz]

At 11/14/2001 07:39 AM -0800, you wrote:
>Seems to me, that there is a setting in Eudora to use SSL.  But I'd guess
>you've already checked that.

I've told Eudora always to use SSL "if available." This was always my 
normal config, and have not changed it. However, I've tried "always" and 
"never" now and neither works.

Note that I wasn't trying to encrypt; I was just trying to POP. Encryption 
I'll try later.


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Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Talkington wrote:

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> >On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Talkington wrote:
> >
> >> Nat B. wrote:
> >> 
> >> >I have dhcp-2.0pl5-4 server on RH7.1
> >> >sometimes DHCP clients don't take leases from linux servers.
> >
> >
> >> 
> >> >Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?
> >
> >Well, you can give the operational equivalent of it by giving it extremely 
> >large lease times in dhcpd.conf.  For example:
> 
> What problem does this solve?

I didn't say I was trying to solve his problem.  His post really had two 
parts:  help solve my problem; and how do you give infinite leases.

I answered the infinite leases question.  Not that it solves his problem, 
because it won't.


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RE: Newbie Problems and Questions - Kernel Source Installation

[Alexander Shaw]

Do I need install a whole kernel though when it's the header files I
require?

The instructions I'm trying to follow can be found at:
http://www.dwrees.co.uk/linmodem.php#binary

Alex

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On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 08:13:26PM -, Alexander Shaw wrote:
> Am new to Linux and battling to get my modem working. I have some
> instructions that tell me I need to install the kernel source and then set
> up things with it.
> It is totally confusing me at the moment. What exactly do I need to
download
> for this?

Check this out this howto:

http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/kernel-upgrade/kernel-upgrade.
html

Let me know if you need more help.

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Re: Newbie Problems and Questions - Kernel Source Installation

[Mike Irwin]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 08:13:26PM -, Alexander Shaw wrote:
> Am new to Linux and battling to get my modem working. I have some
> instructions that tell me I need to install the kernel source and then set
> up things with it.
> It is totally confusing me at the moment. What exactly do I need to download
> for this?

Check this out this howto:

http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/kernel-upgrade/kernel-upgrade.html

Let me know if you need more help.

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Re: vim, backspace in INSERT mode?

[Mike Irwin]

On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:18:20PM -0500, Kevin wrote:
> Call me crazy but i swear i used to be able to use the
> BACKSPACE key in INSERT mode to delete text in vim. 
> Now all i am getting are lines of Ctrl carrots and ?
> marks.  Did something change in vim from RH7.1 to
> RH7.2?

Try recompiling Vim, or alternatively, put this code in you .vimrc:

:if &term == "xterm"
:   set t_kb=
:   fixdel
:endif

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Re: Bash globbing

[Harry Putnam]

Emmanuel Seyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:01:35PM -0500, Brad Cox wrote:
>>
>> How about echo Mail/* | sed s/ sent//g
>
> Make that `echo Mail/* | sed s#Mail/sent##` and
> you've got yourself a deal. Thanks Brad!
>

Emmanuel Seyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> What does `ls Mail' print?

> A whole load of names which I don't feel comfortable giving out
> over the Internet.

You could change names to give the scope of the problem.  However if
you are unwilling to provide example data, you will continue to get
half answers.

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:26:10PM +0100, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:
>> 
>> Well, how about
>> echo `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
>
> Damn! I should have thought of that.
> Thanks to both of you.

Both: 
s#Mail/sent## 
and 
`ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
Will fail in the event of filenames like `unsent' or `notsent'

The `ls' example I cited can be refined to sort out those cases or any
others too.

>> Probably this will work depending on what file names are in there?
>> 
>> ls Mail/[a-rt-z]*
>> It will show all files except those beginning with `s'
>
> As I said in my first message, close but not close enough.

Really?.. All I see is:
`echo [^sent]*`
`echo [^s]*`

I see no examples of `ls' at all.

Can you show an example of what gets included with above 
`ls [a-rt-z]*' syntax,
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vim, backspace in INSERT mode?

[Kevin]

Hello all,

Call me crazy but i swear i used to be able to use the
BACKSPACE key in INSERT mode to delete text in vim. 
Now all i am getting are lines of Ctrl carrots and ?
marks.  Did something change in vim from RH7.1 to
RH7.2?


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Anyone get Oracle 8.0.5 installed on Red Hat 7.0-7.2???

[Rhugga]

I know there is the glibc issue which requires the patch and the relink against the 
compat rpm's.
However, this patch requires that you install Oracle first, then patch. I cannot get 
Oracle to
install at all. It dies in the link phase. I tried applying the patch to the install 
staging area
and this did not work.

Once again, I am trying to install Oracle 8.0.5 on a Red Hat 7.2 system. (I know I 
should be 
running 8i or even 9i but are Pro C stuff will not work with 8i yet)

Any help is greatly appreciated..

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Newbie Problems and Questions - Kernel Source Installation

[Alexander Shaw]

HI 
all,
 
Am new to Linux and 
battling to get my modem working. I have some instructions that tell me I need 
to install the kernel source and then set up things with it.
It is totally 
confusing me at the moment. What exactly do I need to download for 
this?
 
I would really 
appreciate it if someone could contact me off list and talk me though this 
one.
 
Alex

Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

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Jerry Winegarden wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Talkington wrote:
>
>> Nat B. wrote:
>> 
>> >I have dhcp-2.0pl5-4 server on RH7.1
>> >sometimes DHCP clients don't take leases from linux servers.
>
>
>> 
>> >Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?
>
>Well, you can give the operational equivalent of it by giving it extremely 
>large lease times in dhcpd.conf.  For example:

What problem does this solve?

- -d

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Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

[Jerry Winegarden]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Talkington wrote:

> Nat B. wrote:
> 
> >I have dhcp-2.0pl5-4 server on RH7.1
> >sometimes DHCP clients don't take leases from linux servers.


> 
> >Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?

Well, you can give the operational equivalent of it by giving it extremely 
large lease times in dhcpd.conf.  For example:

/etc/dhcpd.conf

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.200;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
default-lease-time 2592000; 
max-lease-time 2592;
# these are in seconds - are these close enough to infinity for you?
domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1, 198.79.53.11;
}


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Re: pattern matching

[dave brett]

Thanks to all I will look into both books.

david

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Gordon Messmer wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 02:48:07PM -0800, Gordon Messmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | I think you want this:
> > | find / -type d -maxdepth 1 -exec du {} \; | egrep -v "/[^/]*/"
> > 
> > You can make that even simpler:
> > /.*/
> > No need to use [^/] there...
> 
> That's true, but I mostly quit using '.*' after some very serious 
> performance problems with a Perl CGI a while back.  One '.*' is fine, but 
> using more than one can cause a string to get traversed in some awful, 
> awful ways.  I try to be more concise.
> 
> > Or of course the cool sed/awk O'Reilly book, which also has regexp stuff.
> 
> Absolutely.  Doesn't O'Reilly have a book on regex's specifically?
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Re: Accesing windows software in a networked computer

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Manuel Camacho wrote:

>I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS 
>software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a "server", and let all the Linux 
>workstations access the MS software on this server???

The only way I can think of is terminal server, and that's not much
use to you unless there's a terminal services client for Java or 
Linux.

>As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses.

You're probably not going to achieve that result. Read the licenses, 
with special attention to issues of concurrent usage and client 
access licenses.

I'll be very interested in any solution you come up with, because I've
faced the same problem.  The solution so far has always been to wean
my people from the Microsoft apps they think they need.  You can ditch
Project ... there are other ways to accomplish its goals.  I'm not
qualified to comment on AutoCAD, though; I don't know the lay of the
land there.

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Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

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Nat B. wrote:

>I have dhcp-2.0pl5-4 server on RH7.1
>sometimes DHCP clients don't take leases from linux servers.
>Is there a bug in the DHCP package on RH7.1?

What does syslog say?

>Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?

Sure.  Assign static IP addresses and do away with DHCP.  An
"infinite" lease would defeat the purpose of DHCP.

But I don't think that's really what you want.  It sounds like you 
just want to solve the problem at hand, which is that your clients 
apparently don't always get leases assigned.  So ... what does syslog 
say, on both the client and the server?

- -d

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Re: RH 7.2 recompile behavior re: GRUB

[Ed Wilts]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:31:10AM -0600, BobH wrote:
>   Just screwed up a recompile, but I noted behavior with 'grub' that I did
> not expect.  After recompiling the 2.4.9-13 kernel I went to modify the
> /etc/grub.conf file and found that it had already been modified -
> presumably by the ? makefile ? - and that all reference to the prior kernel
> had been removed and only the new kernel is referenced.
> 
>   Is this now standard behavior.  Lilo always required you to add the new
> kernel to the /etc/lilo.conf file and this always left me the option of
> naming the old working kernel as 'safe' to allow the machine to restart if
> I really messed up.


This is not standard behavior if you install the Red Hat rpm.  The rpm will
add the new kernel to the grub file and leave the old one there.  I've
currently got 3 kernels to choose from at boot time.

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Re: Bash globbing

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 12:01:35PM -0500, Brad Cox wrote:
>
> How about echo Mail/* | sed s/ sent//g

Make that `echo Mail/* | sed s#Mail/sent##` and
you've got yourself a deal. Thanks Brad!

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Re: Bash globbing

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 08:51:25AM -0800, Harry Putnam wrote:
> 
> How can we tell you what globbing syntax to use if you don't show us
> the file names?

Everything but "sent".
I could give you some names but I'm sure you can think something up.

> What does `ls Mail' print?

A whole load of names which I don't feel comfortable giving out
over the Internet.

> Probably this will work depending on what file names are in there?
> 
> ls Mail/[a-rt-z]*
> It will show all files except those beginning with `s'

As I said in my first message, close but not close enough.

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Re: Layout editing software

[Reuben D Budiardja]

On Tuesday 13 November 2001 07:13 pm, you wrote:
> Reuben D Budiardja wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Does anyone know a good layout / setting software that will do similar
> > things like Adobe Pagemaker for windows, or Quarks for Mac?
> > Any suggestion at all?
>
> Go to freshmeat.net and search on Scribus.
>
> jb
>
Thanks. I just installed Scribus. Something like that is what I want, 
although scribus is still in a very early version.
For other who suggested to use Lyx / latex, I do use it for most purposes, 
but it's sometime just too hard to edit the layout using lyx.

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Re: Bash globbing

[Brad Cox]

How about echo Mail/* | sed s/ sent//g

> Emmanuel Seyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I'm trying to find a way to get the names of the files in my Mail folder
>> but would like to exclude the sent folder.



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Re: Bash globbing

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 05:26:10PM +0100, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:
> 
> Well, how about
> echo `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`

Damn! I should have thought of that.
Thanks to both of you.

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Re: Bash globbing

[Harry Putnam]

Emmanuel Seyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to find a way to get the names of the files in my Mail folder
> but would like to exclude the sent folder.
> I'm trying to find the parameters to echo that will send me the list
> but I'm having a hard time and I was wondering if somebody could help me.

How can we tell you what globbing syntax to use if you don't show us
the file names?

What does `ls Mail' print?
Probably this will work depending on what file names are in there?

ls Mail/[a-rt-z]*
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RH 7.2 recompile behavior re: GRUB

[BobH]

HI,
  Just screwed up a recompile, but I noted behavior with 'grub' that I did
not expect.  After recompiling the 2.4.9-13 kernel I went to modify the
/etc/grub.conf file and found that it had already been modified -
presumably by the ? makefile ? - and that all reference to the prior kernel
had been removed and only the new kernel is referenced.

  Is this now standard behavior.  Lilo always required you to add the new
kernel to the /etc/lilo.conf file and this always left me the option of
naming the old working kernel as 'safe' to allow the machine to restart if
I really messed up.

TIA

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Re: Bash globbing

[Thomas Ribbrock]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 04:30:08PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:01:22AM -0500, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
> > 
> > You could always take advantage of grep:
> > 
> >   `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
> 
> I thought of that but I need all the info on one line, hence the echo.

Well, how about

echo `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`

then?

$SOMEVAR=`ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`

works, too, and you can do with $SOMEVAR whatever you like, then.

Cheerio,

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Best Method - base config for kernel compile

[BobH]

Hi,
  Still trying to get NAT going.  Upgraded to 2.4.9-13 and had an unuseable
kernel.  I started from scratch on the configuration but have since found
the 'configs' subdirectory under the 2.4.9-13 src directory.  Should I just
open the appropriate config file and use this as my base to add the items
for NAT?  I think the answer is yes but don't want to spend the time for a
long recompile it it is 'no' - don't find any reference to this in any of
the multiple linux books on the shelf.

TIA

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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[eric clover]

is there any advantage to taking advantage of the SSL?
what steps are needed to configure the server to use SSL?

Postfix-Snapshot-20010808
imap-2000c-1.6.0

TIA
eric
- Original Message -
From: "Keith Morse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:39 AM
Subject: [RHL] Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2


On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:

> Friends, countrymen, penguins:
>
> I am *thoroughly* baffled. Have set up a new 7.2 mailserver, using
standard
> RedHat packages:
>
>  * sendmail-8.11.6
>  * imap-2000c-15
>
> Now, Eudora cannot POP my mail from that box (same config as on 7.0/7.1
> boxen, of course); it complains about a bad cert and suggests that I add
> the cert to my trust chain. Since I'm not trying to encrypt anything but
> just to use normal POP on port 110, this is confusing to say the least.
> Worse yet is that MS LookOut and Express work "properly"; they POP without
> problems.
>
> *No* changes were made to the default config on the server other than SMTP
> AUTH (LOGIN PLAIN) which is working properly and letting sendmail listen
to
> the outside network. Can anyone suggest what the hell may have changed?
> I've found two files that interest me:
>
>  * /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
>  * /usr/share/ssl/certs/ipopd.pem
>
> However, I'm not sure what the heck to do with them. "make usage" in that
> directory gives a list of instructions which I do not understand, and I'm
> not trying to use secure POP (yet); just POP. That is, the pop3s service
is
> OFF; only ipop3 is ON.
>
> xinetd has been restarted, the entire box has been restarted, configs have
> been checked... the obvious has been done unless I forgot something.  grin> Is Eudora broken here, or is something else going on?


Seems to me, that there is a setting in Eudora to use SSL.  But I'd guess
you've already checked that.



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Accesing windows software in a networked computer

[Manuel Camacho]

Dear Friends:

At the office, the management is thinking about changing all the network 
from Novell and Windows to Linux. But, we require some software that only 
exists in Windows version, such as AutoCAD and MSProject. 

I know there is VMWare and Win4Lin, but, is it possible to let all the MS 
software and a VMWare or Win4Lin in a "server", and let all the Linux 
workstations access the MS software on this server???

Would a VMWare/Win4Lin required on every client?

As you may guess, the idea is to avoid paying the MS licenses.

TIA,

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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 06:28:33AM +, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
> 
> However, I'm not sure what the heck to do with them. "make usage" in that 
> directory gives a list of instructions which I do not understand, and I'm 
> not trying to use secure POP (yet); just POP. That is, the pop3s service is 
> OFF; only ipop3 is ON.

Strange...

Have you tried telnetting to the box to see if you can do POP by hand?

telnet mailserver pop3
USER login
PASS X
STAT (which should give you the amount
  of mails and the size of the mailbox)
QUIT

If this works, I'ld look at Eudora's settings.

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Re: Cert problem popping with 7.2

[Keith Morse]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:

> Friends, countrymen, penguins:
> 
> I am *thoroughly* baffled. Have set up a new 7.2 mailserver, using standard 
> RedHat packages:
> 
>  * sendmail-8.11.6
>  * imap-2000c-15
> 
> Now, Eudora cannot POP my mail from that box (same config as on 7.0/7.1 
> boxen, of course); it complains about a bad cert and suggests that I add 
> the cert to my trust chain. Since I'm not trying to encrypt anything but 
> just to use normal POP on port 110, this is confusing to say the least. 
> Worse yet is that MS LookOut and Express work "properly"; they POP without 
> problems.
> 
> *No* changes were made to the default config on the server other than SMTP 
> AUTH (LOGIN PLAIN) which is working properly and letting sendmail listen to 
> the outside network. Can anyone suggest what the hell may have changed? 
> I've found two files that interest me:
> 
>  * /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
>  * /usr/share/ssl/certs/ipopd.pem
> 
> However, I'm not sure what the heck to do with them. "make usage" in that 
> directory gives a list of instructions which I do not understand, and I'm 
> not trying to use secure POP (yet); just POP. That is, the pop3s service is 
> OFF; only ipop3 is ON.
> 
> xinetd has been restarted, the entire box has been restarted, configs have 
> been checked... the obvious has been done unless I forgot something.  grin> Is Eudora broken here, or is something else going on?


Seems to me, that there is a setting in Eudora to use SSL.  But I'd guess
you've already checked that.



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Re: Problem with 7.2 Upgrade: eth0 not recognized

[Trond Eivind Glomsrød]

Jerry Winegarden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 13 Nov 2001, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
> 
> > Red Hat Linux 7.2 discussions are much better off on enigma-list.
> 
> enigma-list?  what enigma list?
> at least according to your mailing-lists page, there doesn't appear to be 
> one to subscribe to! :-(

https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

I've mailed its absense on our other mailinglist page to our web people.

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Re: Problem with 7.2 Upgrade: eth0 not recognized

[Jerry Winegarden]

On 13 Nov 2001, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:

> Red Hat Linux 7.2 discussions are much better off on enigma-list.

enigma-list?  what enigma list?
at least according to your mailing-lists page, there doesn't appear to be 
one to subscribe to! :-(
If your goal is to encourage use of the enigma or whatever list instead of 
the main redhat-list every time there is an update, then might it be nice 
to make sure there is a subscription link available?  TGIA


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Re: Bash globbing

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:01:22AM -0500, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
> 
> You could always take advantage of grep:
> 
>   `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`

I thought of that but I need all the info on one line, hence the echo.

[seyman@munshine seyman]$ echo ~/Mail/* | grep -v sent
[seyman@munshine seyman]$

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Re: Bash globbing

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At 10:01 14-11-2001 -0500, you wrote:
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> >I'm trying to find the parameters to echo that will send me the list
> >but I'm having a hard time and I was wondering if somebody could help me.
> >
> >I've tried `echo [^sent]*` which send back every file but those starting
> >with s, e, n and t. `echo [^s]*` sends back every file but those
> >starting with s but that's not enough. Any globbing experts out there?
>
>You could always take advantage of grep:
>
>   `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`
>
>Tony
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Re: Bash globbing

[Anthony E. Greene]

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
>I'm trying to find a way to get the names of the files in my Mail folder
>but would like to exclude the sent folder.
>I'm trying to find the parameters to echo that will send me the list
>but I'm having a hard time and I was wondering if somebody could help me.
>
>I've tried `echo [^sent]*` which send back every file but those starting
>with s, e, n and t. `echo [^s]*` sends back every file but those
>starting with s but that's not enough. Any globbing experts out there?

You could always take advantage of grep:

  `ls ~/mail | grep -v '^sent'`

Tony
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Bash globbing

[Emmanuel Seyman]

I'm trying to find a way to get the names of the files in my Mail folder
but would like to exclude the sent folder.
I'm trying to find the parameters to echo that will send me the list
but I'm having a hard time and I was wondering if somebody could help me.

I've tried `echo [^sent]*` which send back every file but those starting
with s, e, n and t. `echo [^s]*` sends back every file but those
starting with s but that's not enough. Any globbing experts out there?

Emmanuel



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Re: DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

[Mike Burger]

Do you have enough IPs doled out in the DHCP server to cover all your 
clients?

The only way I can think to give an "infinite lease" is to assign an IP to 
the MAC address of the client's NIC card.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Nat B. wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have dhcp-2.0pl5-4 server on RH7.1
> sometimes DHCP clients don't take leases from linux servers.
> Is there a bug in the DHCP package on RH7.1?
> 
> Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Regards
> 
> Nathalie
> 
> 
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Re: rpm4 on RH 6

[Vincent Cojot]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:00:26PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> > The problem isn't with upgrading the machines to use rpm4 - we acutally do
> > that.  The problem is that the version of rpm used by the redhat installer
> > (anaconda?) itself doens't properly understand packages built with rpmv4.
> [...]
>
> I knew I'd be overlooking something - thanks for the explanation! So, to
> handle this situation correctly, RH would have needed to provide an update
> for the installer as well?
>
> Cheerio,
>
> Thomas

Hello Martthew and Thomas,

In fact, I tried upgrading the Rh6.2 "instimage" directory from
rpm3 to rpm4 with correct libraries but it didn't seem to work.. I suspect
this is because rpm-python from "instimage" was built with rpm3 and
upgrading the "rpm" command under "instimage" doesn't help... The
behaviour we got when we applied the first rpm4 package to our kickstart
installs (I believe it was ucd-snmpd*) was that the package would be
present in the rpm-db but no files (or several missing files) were to be
found on the actual filesystem.. I may not have investigated that issue
enough but it should be feasible - I think - to upgrade an rpm3-based
instimage from rh6.2 to an rpm4 tree..

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Re: webalizer stopped working

[cgalpin]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 07:11:31AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Out of the blue, webalizer (1.3) has stopped producing stats. No changes
> > have been made to it or it's configuration in ages.
> 
> This is a known bug on Webalizer 1.3 .
> It ignores every log entry dated post-4th October.
> Upgrade to webalizer 2 or download the patch from the webalizer site.

thanks. I had checked the FAQ on the wbsite, but didn't notice the "What's
new" section where it is clearly stated!

thanks again
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Re: what is what in Linux

[Dave Ihnat]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 04:56:21PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> I'm not familar with 'what' but it looks like it's just seeking out the RCS
> identifiers hidden in the binaries...

SCCS strings.

> 'ident' does this on linux..

Yes.  Equivalent.  And just as unreliable.

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DHCP doesn't give lease sometimes

[Nat B.]

Hi all,

I have dhcp-2.0pl5-4 server on RH7.1
sometimes DHCP clients don't take leases from linux servers.
Is there a bug in the DHCP package on RH7.1?

Is there a way to give infinite leases to DHCP clients?

Thanks for your help

Regards

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Re: webalizer stopped working

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 07:11:31AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Out of the blue, webalizer (1.3) has stopped producing stats. No changes
> have been made to it or it's configuration in ages.

This is a known bug on Webalizer 1.3 .
It ignores every log entry dated post-4th October.
Upgrade to webalizer 2 or download the patch from the webalizer site.

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Re: rpm4 on RH 6

[Thomas Ribbrock]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 11:00:26PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> The problem isn't with upgrading the machines to use rpm4 - we acutally do
> that.  The problem is that the version of rpm used by the redhat installer
> (anaconda?) itself doens't properly understand packages built with rpmv4.  
[...]

I knew I'd be overlooking something - thanks for the explanation! So, to
handle this situation correctly, RH would have needed to provide an update
for the installer as well?

Cheerio,

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Re: rpm4 on RH 6 (was: Is there ever going to any logic to the rpmupdates version numbers??????)

[Matthew Melvin]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 at 1:37pm (+0100), Thomas Ribbrock wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:01:35PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> > P.S.
> > 
> > I can definitly sympathise with the rpm4 problem with rh6.2 - at WC we
> > rebuild all the recent redhat errata on a rpm3 system for folding back into
> > our kickstart installs.  Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
> 

> I'm curious - I have no experience with kickstart, but what would be the
> problem with "simply" upgrading all machines in question to rpm4? I'm pretty
> certain I'm missing something here which probably doesn't surface in your
> standard home environment, that's why I'm asking... :-)

The problem isn't with upgrading the machines to use rpm4 - we acutally do
that.  The problem is that the version of rpm used by the redhat installer
(anaconda?) itself doens't properly understand packages built with rpmv4.  
So even through kickstart actually uses rpm v4 and all the other errata when
creating a new install unless first rebuild the packages with rpm v3 the
install doens't work.  Clear?  Like mud.. ;)

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Re: NMAP

[Lewi]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 09:42:12AM +, Jorge Gossain Filho wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to know how really nmap works, how it get all that informations 
> from a host,how ports open for example and how can I do not permit this ?? if 
> possible of course
with iptables, i use 
/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP 
(from rc.firewall) deny port scanning


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permissions on a vfat partition.

[Gary Stainburn]

Hi all,

I've got a dual boot, with the windows partition mounted as /drvc as show in 
the /etc/fstab extract.  As you can see, it's mounted with my UID/GID so I 
own it.  

I can then create/amend/delete files in the root dir of that fs, but once I 
go down a level, in this case to 'Program Files', I can no longer update.  I 
believe that this is to do with the lack of the 'w' permissions, as shown in 
the 'ls' command.

Anyone know how I can fix this? I've tried using chmod, but of course as it's 
a vfat FS it's ignored.

Ta,
Gary

/etc/fstab entry:
/dev/hda2   /drvc   vfatgid=500,uid=500 0 0

'ls listing':
[gary@dcomp2 windows]$ ls -ld / /drvc/ /drvc/Program\ Files/
drwxr-xr-x   20 root root 4096 Nov  6 09:36 /
drwxr-xr-x   12 gary gary 4096 Nov 14 12:29 /drvc/
dr-xr-xr-x   13 gary gary 4096 Nov 14 12:27 /drvc/Program Files/
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RE: linux box as router : performance ?

[Burke, Thomas G.]

Well, that's as good as I can get, I suppose...  my firewall rules are
available at http://tomii.dnsalias.com/firewall.txt  



> -Original Message-
> From: Thierry ITTY [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:41 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: linux box as router : performance ?
> 
> A 07:23 13/11/01 -0500, vous avez écrit :
> >Not sure if i't what you're asking for, but...
> 
> Yes, that's exactly waht i'm looking for
> i'd just like some feedback about "stronger" configurations, say several
> 100 Mbps NICs or even Gbps, hundreds of routes or more, simple or complex
> filters, aso...
> thanks
> 
> >> just interested in performance data that anyone could have collected
> when
> >> trying to run a linux box with one or several NICs as a router (simple
> >> router with static routes, complex with OSPF or BGP, dynamic, policy,
> >> filters...), some kind of table(s) showing overall performance
> (packets/s,
> >> bytes/s...) and configuration (cpu, memory, nics...)
> 
> >RH 3.2 on a pentium 75: 10Mb coax w/ 3Com etherlink III combo cards...
> > As a workstation - ~7Mbps transfers through a linux router (exact
> >same specs as the workstation - used as a dynamic router, but no DNS -
> this
> >was supported by a SUN server) - this had 10Mb ether on each side...
> >
> >RH 6.2 on a PII-450:  Same ethernet cards as above, two different
> >configurations for the internal network - used to be on thin ether (50
> ohm
> >coax), recently migrated to CAT-5...  Transfer rates between M$ Win98 &
> the
> >server ~8-9Mbps.  Through the server - running apache, samba, masq'ing
> >connections, ipchains firewall, sshd, sendmail, & some other stuff -
> maxed
> >out the throughput of the cable modem (~1.5Mbps down & 256kbps up)...
> Load
> >meters during biggest loads (starting a game on the server & piping it's
> >output through X windows - while doing a large download via ftp/http)
> showed
> >my disk doing some peaky stuff, but the processor kept a load average
> below
> >10%...  When the game quit loading, I could hardly tell a difference
> between
> >a transfer going through or not...
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> Si nous avons chacun une idee et que nous les echangeons,
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rpm4 on RH 6 (was: Is there ever going to any logic to the rpm updates version numbers??????)

[Thomas Ribbrock]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:01:35PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> P.S.
> 
> I can definitly sympathise with the rpm4 problem with rh6.2 - at WC we
> rebuild all the recent redhat errata on a rpm3 system for folding back into
> our kickstart installs.  Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

I'm curious - I have no experience with kickstart, but what would be the
problem with "simply" upgrading all machines in question to rpm4? I'm pretty
certain I'm missing something here which probably doesn't surface in your
standard home environment, that's why I'm asking... :-)

Cheerio,

Thomas
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Re: Is there ever going to any logic to the rpm updates version numbers??????

[Thomas Ribbrock]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:01:35PM +1000, Matthew Melvin wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 at 5:04am (-0500), Vincent Cojot wrote:
[...]
> I can't speak to the general issue except to say that the basic scheme being
> that 'bigger' is 'newer'.  But in this particular case there was already a
> sendmail-8.11.6-1.6.x (earlier release of the same alert I beleive) so the
> next one had to be sendmail-8.11.6-1.6.y and I think that illistrates the
> problem...

Hm... I'd have expected "sendmail-8.11.6-2.6.x" instead, but maybe that's
just me...

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webalizer stopped working

[cgalpin]

Out of the blue, webalizer (1.3) has stopped producing stats. No changes
have
been made to it or it's configuration in ages.

When I run it I get

[root@pooh webalizer]# /usr/bin/webalizer -c
/etc/webalizer/mydom.com.conf
Webalizer V1.30-04 (Linux 2.2.13) English
Using logfile /var/log/httpd/mydom.com/access.log.resolved
Creating output in /var/log/httpd/mydom.com/usage
Hostname for reports is 'MyDom.com'
Reading history file... webalizer.hist
Reading previous run data.. webalizer.current
93 records (93 ignored) in 0.01 seconds

Everytime it says all the records are ignored, and the stats don't get
updated (last occured Oct 4th).

I'm going to upgrade to 2.x, but would like to understand why this
happened.

thanks
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Re: Simple VPN setup

[cgalpin]

On 13 Nov 2001, Trond Eivind [iso-8859-1] Glomsrød wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> > On 12 Nov 2001, Trond Eivind [iso-8859-1] Glomsrød wrote:
> > > 
> > > CIPE can solve that, and is included.
> > 
> > How about for 6.2? I can't find it.
> 
> 6.2 is ancient ;) - it was added for RHL 7.

rofl. Ok, ancient as it may be, it's 1K miles away, and I don't trust Mom
to do a remote upgrade :)

So, it's just a kernel patch and some userland utils right? Any idea what
kernel might be a good one to build from?

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Re: Is there ever going to any logic to the rpm updates versionnumbers??????

[Matthew Melvin]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 at 5:04am (-0500), Vincent Cojot wrote:

> 
> Hello list, hello redhat packagers (if any are reading this list),
> 

[...]

> Here is what I mean (from RHSA-2001:106-08):
> 
>   RH7.1   RH7.0   RH6.2
> Prev. sendmail verion:8.11.6-1.7.18.11.6-1.7.08.11.6-1.6.x
> 
> This sounds logical (1.7.1 sounds like version 1 of the package and it's
> for rh7.1, 1.7.0 is version 1 of the package and it's for rh7.0, 1.6.x is
> version 1 of the package and it's for all rh6.x versions - where x is 0,1
> or 2).
> 
> Following this logic, it sounds logical that the latest sendmail update
> from RH is numbered like this:
> 
>   RH7.1   RH7.0
> New sendmail verion:  8.11.6-2.7.18.11.6-2.7.0
> 
> But for some obscure logical reason, instead of calling the same update
> "8.11.6-2.6.x" for RH6.x, it was decided by someone at RH to call the
> update "8.11.6-1.6.y"? And even worse, in order to propagate the "error",
> the same sendmail update for 5.x versions is also called ""8.11.6-1.5.y".
> I didn't diff'ed the changelogs between the sendmail packages for all of
> the dists but if the reason behind the numbering is that the fixes are
> different, then these updates should not be part of the same RHSA
> advisory..

I can't speak to the general issue except to say that the basic scheme being
that 'bigger' is 'newer'.  But in this particular case there was already a
sendmail-8.11.6-1.6.x (earlier release of the same alert I beleive) so the
next one had to be sendmail-8.11.6-1.6.y and I think that illistrates the
problem... it's just too damn hard to predict the future.  That said - I
can't help but agree.. the version number is a signifant pain buto long as
'$old cmp $new' still gives the right result I isn't too bad.

M.

P.S.

I can definitly sympathise with the rpm4 problem with rh6.2 - at WC we
rebuild all the recent redhat errata on a rpm3 system for folding back into
our kickstart installs.  Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

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