Re: Size of swap Partition

2002-05-07 Thread ABrady

On Tue, 7 May 2002 11:28:15 +0530
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 Size of swap partition is usually recommended to be 2 * (size of ram).
 But recently i went thru one article wherein it was mentioned that
 redhat linux wont be looking to swap beyond 128mb even though we give
 the swap partition size of much more than that.
 I have here a dell poweredge 2450 box with twin pentium-3  733hz
 processors and 1gb ram.
 It really makes me wonder whether I should give it 2gb swap space ..??
 Any advices please ??
 
 Thanks,
 Ramesh C Pathak

This keeps coming up, and I don't know why people keep writing it and
confusing people.

In the 2.2.X kernel I was doing some heavy duty compiling once. I had at
that time about 500MB swap. The compile kept failing (not to mention the
system was running really slow in the interim). I finally added another
500MB swap just to test things. The compile completed successfully. This
was with 96MB hard RAM.

The extra 500MB should have been overkill and unused swap. Other than
compiling that one program it mostly sat useless. But, the points are,
the claim you read is false, and the amount needed can (but seldom does
to a large degree) vary with the conditions.

The rule of thumb is, 2-2.5 times RAM. I currently have 384MB installed
and 1GB swap. Most of my swap never gets used under most conditions.
I've had it up to about 700MB used once in the last 6 months. This on a
2.4.X kernel which supposedly makes even more use of swap than the 2.2.X
kernels did.

Do you need all of that swap space? I don't know. The rule would say
yes, though I admit it sure sounds like a lot.

Maybe someone else can shed some light on that. I personally wanted to
go after the 128MB myth. That was true at one time (sort of). That
hasn't been true for quite some time.

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Re: system security

2002-05-07 Thread Jack Bowling

** Reply to message from julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 06 May 2002 
21:06:45 -0700

snip
 I never had to consider security issues before, therefore I would also 
 appreciate if you could point me to some good tutorials.

Oskar Andreasson has gone to a lot of work just for you, Julius. Check out his 
iptables tutorial at:

http://people.unix-fu.org/andreasson/iptables-tutorial/iptables-tutorial.html

jb

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Re: Size of swap Partition

2002-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 01:47 07 May 2002, ABrady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| The rule of thumb is, 2-2.5 times RAM. I currently have 384MB installed
| and 1GB swap. Most of my swap never gets used under most conditions.
| I've had it up to about 700MB used once in the last 6 months. This on a
| 2.4.X kernel which supposedly makes even more use of swap than the 2.2.X
| kernels did.
| 
| Do you need all of that swap space? I don't know. The rule would say
| yes, though I admit it sure sounds like a lot.
| 
| Maybe someone else can shed some light on that. I personally wanted to
| go after the 128MB myth. That was true at one time (sort of). That
| hasn't been true for quite some time.

As you say, the 128Mb limit is long dead.

2 to 2.5 is a good rule of thumb - if you need more than that then
_typically_ you will be thrashing and performance will suck anyway.

The main exception is big, often idle and for extended periods, tasks
with state that's a pain to reestablish.

For example, supposing you have some chunky things (live VMware sessions,
big and remote VNC desktops, a large ongoing project with a big image
in the gimp, etc) where you legitimately have a big fat program which
_on_its_own_ fits ok into memory, but not with everything else. Supposing
you have a few of these, but you only ever use one at a time, and that
for a while at any one sitting.  In that case it's well worth having
lots of swap so you can have these things sitting there. When you
sawitch tasks you'll sit for some time while lots of paging happens,
and then you can proceed.

So in short, if all your programs are generally active, having more
swap than RAM just stops things crashing from lack of memory, but will
soon thrash.

But for some workloads where you're effectively using your swap for _swap_
as opposed to _paging_, it's worth it.

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Re: Do NOT mirror updates daily! (was Re: Hacked again...)

2002-05-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:38:26PM -0500, Bret Hughes wrote:
 
 This makes it sound like I am downloading each file every time I run
 mirror.  I am not.  I only get new files once and then only check it
 each time I run mirror.

A daily mirroring means that you connect to the ftp site, get a listing
of the updates present, compare it with the updates present locally
and download any differences between the two.

Even if there are no updates to download, the listing will still have
been transfered and this results in a 120K download. This may not seem
like much but multiply it by numbers-of-users and times-per-week and
you start getting into numbers that only a big site can handle.

If the site you're mirroring from is a small one, it would be far more
polite to ask the ftp admin for permission and the most appropriate
time interval to do this at.

 we have around 40  redhat boxes and about to ad 10 more and to think
 that everytime I add another I would have to re-download the updates is
 seriously crazy.  I only have a dsl connection at the office.

Obviously, mirroring is the best solution in this case.

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Re: Red Hat 7.3 Package List Question...

2002-05-07 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 08:47:40PM -0500, Jim Hale wrote:

 I was looking at the package listing for the new Red Hat and was just
 wondering, is this the list of stuff that gets INSTALLED (if you use an
 'Install Everything') or the stuff that's AVAILABLE if you want to add
 stuff after the initial install...

Since postfix and sendmail are both present in that list (and I doubt
you'll be able to use both at once), I'm betting that this is the
list of available packages more than anything else. :-)

Emmanuel



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Re: Hacked again...

2002-05-07 Thread Glen Lee Edwards

Rodolfo J. Paiz writes:
It is true that Glen should never have been hacked three times, and that 
this fact alone shows carelessness or ignorance bordering on 
irresponsibility. It is also true that most of us are, at one time or 

Some things we need to get clear here:

The first time I was hacked was on a remote Linux server I was leasing which was
behind a firewall that I did not control.  That system was configured wholly
different from my home system and is in a different state.

The second time I was hacked, it was on my home system.  I immediately wiped the
computer and upgraded it as far as I could considering that the Red Hat
installer no longer runs on 16 MB RAM.

The third time I was hacked WHOEVER HACKED ME FOUND A SECURITY HOLE IN EITHER
NAMED OR SENDMAIL.  THERE WERE NO OTHER PORTS ACTIVE.  I HAD ONLY NAMED AND
SENDMAIL RUNNING.  ALL OTHER SERVICE PORTS WERE CLOSED.  TELNET, INETD, and FTP
WEREN'T EVEN INSTALLED.

The only mistake I made was in remaining loyal to Red Hat after they adopted a
policy to put out distributions that I can't install.  I should have immediately
dumped them.

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partition problems

2002-05-07 Thread Gary Stainburn

Alternative subject lines:
Ooops
Oh Shit!
AGGG!!!
I want my mummy

Initial situation

Drive 1 20GB, with Linux installation and 8GB for Win98.
Drive 2 8GB, with Windows partition containing Flight Sim and Linux backup.

Various problems with Windows were traced to 'D' drive which was proved when 
scandisk lock up the PC every time it checked 'D'. 

I shut down to dos, reformatted 'D' and rebooted windows.  Scandisk started 
complaining about the last block on 'D' not being available.  From Linux I 
did some checks and all looked fine, so using the linux FDISK I deleted 
/dev/hdb1.  I them rebooted Windows to fdisk/reformat 'D'

Windows wouldn't boot., complaining that the OS was missing - I called in 
some help.

It turned out that /dev/hdb1 was actually  drive 'C' and /dev/hda5 was 
actually drive 'D'.   So that's 'C' on the second drive and 'D' on the first 
- something I've never seen before and something I was unaware of.

I'd removed the wrong partition but it didn't really matter as there was not 
much on Windows that I needed to keep and what there was I'd got a copy of on 
Linux.  

We then decided to physically swap the drives making the Windows disk drive 
1, and then re-install windows from scratch.  Once again, scandisk compained 
about the last block being missing on drive 'D', so Andrew fired up fdisk 
(DOS version) and removed the vfat partition.  Unfortunately, it proceeded to 
remove all partitions in the extened partition -removing all of my Linux 
except the boot partition.

So, now we have the situation that we have no partition table.  I know that 
if you have the start and end cylinder numbers you can just re-create the 
partition table entry. I do know the layout (shown below), but do not know 
any start/end cylinder numbers.  Has anyone got any ideas how I can find them?

Based on some info we found on the net, we have found that if you know the 
start number, you can create a partition bigger than the original, run 
dumpe2fs on the partition and it will give you the correct size and therefire 
the end cylinder.  We then set about starting at the end of the disk, 
creating a partition 2490-2491 and tried dumpe2fs, then repeated for 
partition 2489-2491 etc.  until we got to creating the partition 3-2491.  
Unfortunately, we didn't find anything.

Layout of disk

hda11-2 boot/boot
hda23-2491  extended
hda53-? vfat/mnt/win_c (turned out it was actually 'D')
hda6?-? linux   /
hda7?-? swap
hda8?-? linux   /home

(I could live with just getting back /home)

I've actually done the drive swap, so the affected drive is now hdb, and I've 
got a full Linux install on what used to be the windows disk so that I've got 
all the tools available (hdb was disconnected while I did the install so I 
know it hasn't shagged it any more that it already was)
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Re: AntiVirus For Email?

2002-05-07 Thread Mike Burger

I'm using a combination of RBL sites and SpamAssassin.

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Jim Hale wrote:

 OK - spent all weekend and with everyone's help, got Postfix+QPopper+Mailman working 
the way (I think) they should be.
 
 Now, the next question is, what is the best way to setup AntiVirus Protection for 
incoming/outgoing mail (Personal and Mailing Lists) and maybe also a Spam Filter?
 
 Any and all suggestions welcome. :)
 
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Re: monitor disc/net i/o per process?

2002-05-07 Thread Alan Peery

gregory mott wrote:

does anyone know of an app useful for monitoring disc and/or network i/o
per process?

As a very poor approximation:
strace program  2 /tmp/strace 
tail -f /tmp/strace | grep write

basically i'd like something just like top,

Sorry, I haven't seen anything with this level of detail.

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Re: can't find perl-curses rpm for rh 7.2

2002-05-07 Thread Mike Burger

Have you tried CPAN?

On Mon, 6 May 2002, LuisMi wrote:

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 Can anyone tell me where I can find perl-curses package for redhat 7.2?
 I need it to install bastille linux properly.
 I searched into rpmfind but it doesn't exist. :-/ at least for rh7.2
 
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 Connecting your business  
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Problem with RedHat's `network' initscript

2002-05-07 Thread Lars Riger

There seems to be a problem with /etc/rc.d/init.d/network on various RedHat
distributions. I'm not sure if there is already a workaround or if I'm
simply just missing something. In any case, please let me know :)

Problem description:

RedHat's initscript script does the following in this order:

1) bring up interface
2) bring up default route
3) add static routes

This is the order I think it should be done in or at least how my network
configuration requires it to be done in:

1) bring up interface
2) add static routes
2) bring up default route

Or something like that. With our network setup here I cannot add the default
route before I didn't add the resp. network (static route).

The next is, when I use `any' in the /etc/sysconfig/static-routes I get a
`SIOCADDRT: File exists' error upon running the network script. When I use
`eth0' instead the route isn't set at all (and I couldn't find any reference
to a resp. command in the initscript either).

So for now I added the static route and the default gateway to
/etc/rc.d/rc.local but I don't like that way :(

Someone help please? :)


--Lars



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RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...

2002-05-07 Thread Jim Hale

No - I installed everything WAY before I decided I needed to start
learning Linux. :/

Jim Hale
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 Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:22 PM
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 Subject: Re: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...
 
 
 Hello Jim,
 
 Is your Windows 2000 Domain in Mixed Mode ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Pieter
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jim Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mailing List - Red Hat (Co) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:38 AM
 Subject: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...
 
 
  I can map Linux Drives on Windows machines but can't go the 
 other way 
  - I'm wanting to remove as much of the Micro$oftism here but the 
  problem is that my Win2K server that stores my files is 
 also my Tape 
  Backup server and I've spent too much money for things like 
 Veritas to 
  completely throw everything out the Window (no pun intended).
  
  I've tried that Network Neighborhood tool but still to no 
 avail. I am 
  working in a Win2K Domain environment and not strictly peer-to-peer 
  (if that makes a difference). :/
  
  Any info would be greatly appreciated. :)
  
  Thanks!
  
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Re: Do NOT mirror updates daily! (was Re: Hacked again...)

2002-05-07 Thread Ray Curtis

 bh == Bret Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

bh On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 18:34, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
 At 5/7/2002 01:24 AM +0200, you wrote:
 Hit the nearest ftp site for the Powertools and get the rpm for mirror.
 Install it and edit /etc/mirror.defaults to suit you.
 Then create a config file to mirror Red Hat's updates.
 You can then run `mirror config_file` every once in a while
 (what I do at home) or put it in /etc/cron.daily (what I do at work).
 
 Try to avoid doing this on a daily basis; much better is to do it once a 
 week during the middle of the night, and then trigger it manually when you 
 know there is a particular update you want.
 
 Mirroring daily seriously increases the bandwidth drain on the mirror 
 servers (especially since you get bunches of packages you don't even have 
 installed!), thereby raising everyone's cost of supporting Linux in general 
 and Red Hat in particular. And BTW, the more people that do this, the 
 slower everyone's downloads become.
 
 In short, it's rude as hell. Ideally, get only the updates *you* need by 
 using up2date. If you wish to mirror or need to mirror, then make sure that 
 you are supplying more than just one or two computers so that you don't hog 
 a bunch of Net space for kicks.

bh This makes it sound like I am downloading each file every time I run
bh mirror.  I am not.  I only get new files once and then only check it
bh each time I run mirror.  I have not put it in a cron job but run it
bh whenever I get a notification there is an update.  I have intended to
bh run it nightly though.  Am I missing something?  I also use :
bh  recurse_hard=true
bh because in my reading I found references that it takes a little more
bh bandwidth but MUCH less processing time on the remote machine.  Is this
bh true in your opinion?   

bh we have around 40  redhat boxes and about to ad 10 more and to think
bh that everytime I add another I would have to re-download the updates is
bh seriously crazy.  I only have a dsl connection at the office.

bh If I am in error in my understanding of how mirror works please
bh enlighten me.

Nope, IMHO you are doing what you should instead of running something
like up2date on each machine.
Not sure how this thread really got started, but I also have a local
mirror of updates which I use to update my complete network, along
with a couple of other networks locally that I provide support.
 
I only download new updates when they are added to the updates, and
in my case I even check for large rpm updates, that I don't require
and don't download those.


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Re: Hacked again...

2002-05-07 Thread Gerry Doris

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:

 At 5/6/2002 06:45 PM -0400, you wrote:
 With all due respect you sir are an idiot and a hazard to the rest of the
 community.  After being hacked three separate times I would've thought
 that you would agree that you need more security.  However, you continue
 to spout the above dribble to those trying to help you.
 
 Gerry, the point is overdramatized and rather offensive despite being based 
 on some hard truths.
 
 It is true that Glen should never have been hacked three times, and that 
 this fact alone shows carelessness or ignorance bordering on 
 irresponsibility. It is also true that most of us are, at one time or 
 another, so stubborn that we resist help, even help we desperately need.
 
 Glen has clearly fscked up here. However, all of us (you too, I'm sure) 
 have been that stupid at one time or another and this is *NOT* a reason to 
 give up. If all who committed stupid mistakes went home, there would be, as 
 Patrick said, no one left to run servers.
 
 Besides, while stubborn and careless Glen shows intelligence and a 
 willingness to admit when he's wrong; both of which are worth respect in 
 their turn.

Well, perhaps I wasn't my most patient and understanding self when I wrote 
that note but I still maintain that he's a menance to the rest of us.  

From what I have seen of his emails he still insists that the ONLY mistake
he's made is to continue using Redhat.  For the life of me I don't
understand how he can blame them for anything.

After stating that he's been cracked three times and receiving several
suggestions on how to proceed (I was one of those posters) he sent out a
note that firewalls were too hard to set up and were too restrictive.  I
believe his comment was to the effect that he had no intentions of living
on an island.  That's what triggered me off!

I totally disagree with your last statement.  He does not show 
intelligence and a willingness to admit he's wrong.  Just the opposite.  
He sees no problem with leaving his system without a firewall, he leaves 
open port 53 (give me one reason why a home user would open DNS...of 
course without a firewall he has no way to close it), and is intent on 
continuing down the path to be cracked again.

It's not his lack of knowledge that bothers me...it's his insistence to 
continue regardless of the consequences to himself and others.

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Re: (no subject)

2002-05-07 Thread Edward Marczak

On 5/6/02 11:51 AM, Jeff Besecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RH 7.1
 
 While connected using a telnet session, I will be
 typing and the telnet connection gets
 dropped. I cannot find anything in /var/log. If I just
 keep the telnet connection up but
 do not type it stays connected.  In order to telnet
 from the same PC I have to restart
 inetd. Any suggestions?

IP Address conflict?
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Re: 240 megabyte update in 40 hours

2002-05-07 Thread Edward Marczak

On 5/6/02 8:05 AM, Gary Stainburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 06 May 2002 4:47 am, R Talbot wrote:
 [snip]
 Glen
   I can understand your concern regarding security and I agree.
 But... my contention was with the other 210 megabytes which were not
 a security update..
 
 Sorry Rob, but I've got quite a chuckle over this thread.
 
 If I ready it correctly, you're upset that RH continue to develop a system
 after they've frozen a release, and that they not only allow you unrestricted
 access to these improvements but supply a tool to automate that access.
 
 This think - if it were available in the first place - how much you would
 have to PAY for this service from a company using a traditional sales model.
 
 You have to bear in mind just what goes into developing, producing and
 distributing a CD set.  Then bear also bear in mind that this process is not
 actually RH's main income source.

Plus, this development allows you to choose the updates you're interested
in!
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Re: RHL 7.3 is out!

2002-05-07 Thread Martín Marqués

On Lun 06 May 2002 11:56, Jim Hale wrote:
 Is there a way to do an Upgrade or would it be 'cleaner' just to do a fresh
 install?

I almost always do upgrades. Why not?

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Re: buying redhat 7.3

2002-05-07 Thread Edward Marczak

On 5/6/02 12:56 PM, daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so i went to the redhat site
 and went through the whole process of buying a copy of redhat
 (my first time)
 and on the last step
 i was informed that as a Canadian, i'm looking $40something usd
 
 FOR SHIPPING
 
 total cost came to over $100usd
 i just can't do it
 to pay nearly double the cost of the product in shipping
 
 anyone know of a Canadian distributor of the software?

Dunno 'bout Canada, but in the US, it'll be hitting the (computer) store
shelves Real Soon Now.  Or, you could download it (either from a mirror, or
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Re: Do NOT mirror updates daily! (was Re: Hacked again...)

2002-05-07 Thread Edward Marczak

On 5/7/02 8:17 AM, Ray Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nope, IMHO you are doing what you should instead of running something
 like up2date on each machine.
 Not sure how this thread really got started, but I also have a local
 mirror of updates which I use to update my complete network, along
 with a couple of other networks locally that I provide support.

You can set up2date to use a different source...so you download your updates
to a central machine, and each local machine uses up2date to pull from your
local source.  Not saying it's the best solution, just that it's possible.
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[OT] About 7.3

2002-05-07 Thread Ismael Touama

Hi rhml,

Rh7.3 is out, and i ask myself some questions.
My knowledge of how linux get work is seemlessly NULL.

We've just buy rh7.2(january), and I upgrade my kernell
after having upgrade soft, rpms... concerned by erratas.

But now, what is actually the method to implement OS that
they're in constant evolution.
What's the major difference or technology bounce between
one project to another one. :o\
I'm kind of lost as for what policy is bringing up at RedHat.
(and other distro).
Which kernell is used for the 7.2 and which one for 7.3 ?

Sorry for these multiple question.
It is just by curiosity, so don't waste your time if you busy.
*who is not busy ?*
It's just to bring little bit more linux culture in my head, 
waiting for investigation of my own.

Thx,
bbsc,
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Re: [OT] About 7.3

2002-05-07 Thread Eric Wood

- Original Message -
From: Ismael Touama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 But now, what is actually the method to implement OS that
 they're in constant evolution.

Upgrade.  Most people only tweak a few applications.  The rest of package
will upgrade with no problem.

 What's the major difference or technology bounce between
 one project to another one. :o\
 I'm kind of lost as for what policy is bringing up at RedHat.
 (and other distro).

Uhh I'm going to have to plead the 5th amendment on these questions.

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TR: What's the deal after compilling....

2002-05-07 Thread Ismael Touama

Oï,

Yesterday I erase my binary rpm based apache distribution.
I compile and then install (make install) mod_perl and apache_1.3.24.
Still yesterday httpd -l gave me the right good modules.

But today I can't use httpd anymore !
I've got severals:
# find / -name httpd
/home/httpd
/usr/share/doc/qt-devel-2.3.1/examples/httpd   # whiwh is this one !!?
/usr/local/apache/bin/htpd   # the previous apcahe (rpm based)
/usr/local/mod_perl-1.26/t/httpd# from my mod_perl, didn't try it
/usr/local/apache_1.3.24/src/httpd  # my new fresh, compiled apache
/var/log/httpd
/etc/httpd

None do the good stuff.
bash yells command not found bozo !

So I missed one thing, no httpd start, no apachectl !

Can someone explain me the tricks ?
Must I re-compile again ?
What must I do to tell the system keeping last compilation that
I install ?

Thx,
bbsc,
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RE: [OT] About 7.3

2002-05-07 Thread Ismael Touama

From: Ismael Touama [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 But now, what is actually the method to implement OS that
 they're in constant evolution.

Upgrade.  Most people only tweak a few applications.  The rest of package
will upgrade with no problem.

$ So what ?! sorry, don't understand...
$ I don't speak about linux user, I speak 
$ about linux developpers.
$ The whole redhat team.

 What's the major difference or technology bounce between
 one project to another one. :o\
 I'm kind of lost as for what policy is bringing up at RedHat.
 (and other distro).

Uhh I'm going to have to plead the 5th amendment on these questions.

$  You have rights to keep silence.
$  All you can say can be remind against
$  you !

$ So I improve you don't want to tell some silly things ;op
$ bbsc,
$ ism

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RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...

2002-05-07 Thread EricRyd

Try this,


-Original Message-
From: Jim Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...


CLOSE - but I need to go the OTHER way... I can already access Linux
Shares from the Win2K Machines, I need to be able to access Win2K Shares
from a LINUX machine. :)

Thanks for the info though - that proggie might help for other means.

Jim Hale
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Jim  Kathy's Website Collection
http://hale.dyndns.org

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael S. 
 Dunsavage
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...
 
 
 http://www.pharfruminsain.com/programs/quickiemap.asp
 
 may help
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf  Of Jim Hale
 
 Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:39 PM
 To: Mailing List - Red Hat (Co)
 Subject: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...
 
 
 I can map Linux Drives on Windows machines but can't go the 
 other way - I'm wanting to remove as much of the Micro$oftism 
 here but the problem is that my Win2K server that stores my 
 files is also my Tape Backup server and I've spent too much 
 money for things like Veritas to completely throw everything 
 out the Window (no pun intended). 
 
 I've tried that Network Neighborhood tool but still to no 
 avail. I am working in a Win2K Domain environment and not 
 strictly peer-to-peer (if that makes a difference). :/
 
 Any info would be greatly appreciated. :)
 
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RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...

2002-05-07 Thread EricRyd

Sorry, the link didn't attach.

http://www.bnro.de/~schmidjo/

LinNeighborhood is a great utility that uses samba, gives it an easy
configurable gui and allows you to browse over all types of windows based
computers.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Eric Rydberg 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 9:13 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...


Try this,


-Original Message-
From: Jim Hale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...


CLOSE - but I need to go the OTHER way... I can already access Linux
Shares from the Win2K Machines, I need to be able to access Win2K Shares
from a LINUX machine. :)

Thanks for the info though - that proggie might help for other means.

Jim Hale
-
Jim  Kathy's Website Collection
http://hale.dyndns.org

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael S. 
 Dunsavage
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...
 
 
 http://www.pharfruminsain.com/programs/quickiemap.asp
 
 may help
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf  Of Jim Hale
 
 Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:39 PM
 To: Mailing List - Red Hat (Co)
 Subject: Still Can't Map To Win2K Server Drives...
 
 
 I can map Linux Drives on Windows machines but can't go the 
 other way - I'm wanting to remove as much of the Micro$oftism 
 here but the problem is that my Win2K server that stores my 
 files is also my Tape Backup server and I've spent too much 
 money for things like Veritas to completely throw everything 
 out the Window (no pun intended). 
 
 I've tried that Network Neighborhood tool but still to no 
 avail. I am working in a Win2K Domain environment and not 
 strictly peer-to-peer (if that makes a difference). :/
 
 Any info would be greatly appreciated. :)
 
 Thanks!
 
 Jim Hale
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Re: Size of swap Partition

2002-05-07 Thread Javier Gostling

Hi all,
If you are not sure about how much disk space to devote to swap space,
you can be empirical about it. Install MRTG, either from the Redhat RPM
or from source (compiles cleanly) and write some scripts to monitor
memory and swap space usage. After some time, check the graphs to see
how much swap space you have effectively used.

Alternatively, you can use the sar package to check on this values.

You can monitor almost any system parameter you like this way to help
you make better hardware upgrade decissions about your system.

Cheers,
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RH 7.3 Install Hanging On aic7xxx driver...

2002-05-07 Thread Jim Hale

Finally finished downloading 7.3 and went to install it (via bootable CD) - It runs 
thru it's paces and then gets hung on the 'Loading aic7xxx driver' screen.

7.2 didn't do this and installed without a hitch. :/

I hear a couple of clicks coming from the system when it gets to this point and then 
that's it...

Any ideas? :)

Jim Hale



Re: system security

2002-05-07 Thread Billy R Nordyke

Hi,
I've been using Pegasus Direct satellite internet for a few months now. 
As far as I know it doesn't support linux either.  I have 3 computers
networked together and receive the satellite transmissions on one with an
AMD Athlon 1.4G processor.  The others, one similar to the first dual
boots to RH7.2 and win98. The 2nd is an old IBM Aptiva 486 boosted to
100.  Without any manual configuration they receive and send using the
satellite.  Only the one with the direct connection to the satellite
receiver gets the full speed of the satellite. The others receive at 20K
or so.

Planned on using the 486 for a firewall, but I can't find a 16 bit
network card that is 10/100 only 10.  I didn't know whether that would
slow things down too much or not so haven't tried to setup the satellite
receiver on it yet.  All 3 computers dual boot with RH7.2 and win98se.

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Re: can't find perl-curses rpm for rh 7.2

2002-05-07 Thread Juan Martinez

You can also roll your own rpm with the tarball from CPAN.  All you have to
do is run /usr/lib/rpm/cpanflute from the rpm-build package.

Juan

On Tue, 7 May 2002, Mike Burger wrote:

 Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 05:39:09 -0400 (EDT)
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 Have you tried CPAN?

 On Mon, 6 May 2002, LuisMi wrote:

  Can anyone tell me where I can find perl-curses package for redhat 7.2?
  I need it to install bastille linux properly.
  I searched into rpmfind but it doesn't exist. :-/ at least for rh7.2
 
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Re: system security

2002-05-07 Thread yarddog

I was concerned about the secondary connections at 20k. How do you have
them connected? I will have mine connected with ethernet cards and a hub,
will that help any? The primary computer will be a dell laptop with xp
loaded.

Is it stable?

Jim.


On Tue, 7 May 2002 09:25:19 -0500
Billy R Nordyke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been using Pegasus Direct satellite internet for a few months now. 
 As far as I know it doesn't support linux either.  I have 3 computers
 networked together and receive the satellite transmissions on one with
 an AMD Athlon 1.4G processor.  The others, one similar to the first dual
 boots to RH7.2 and win98. The 2nd is an old IBM Aptiva 486 boosted to
 100.  Without any manual configuration they receive and send using the
 satellite.  Only the one with the direct connection to the satellite
 receiver gets the full speed of the satellite. The others receive at 20K
 or so.
 
 Planned on using the 486 for a firewall, but I can't find a 16 bit
 network card that is 10/100 only 10.  I didn't know whether that would
 slow things down too much or not so haven't tried to setup the satellite
 receiver on it yet.  All 3 computers dual boot with RH7.2 and win98se.
 
 Bill
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Re: system security

2002-05-07 Thread Billy R Nordyke

Hi,
I have them connected with ethernet cards and a hub also.  On the fast
computers they are netgear cards.  Don't have the model right handy.  On
the 486 it's a generic 16 bit card.  That really doesn't seem to make
much difference.  It does seem that keeping the activity on the computer
connected to the internet (I guess gateway box would be correct) may
help.  It seems that there should be a way to to get full speed with all
the boxes but I haven't figured that out yet.  I'm no expert, self taught
and have more gaps in my knowledge base than anything else.

I've got to go to work now.  Will check back over lunch hour.

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Re: system security

2002-05-07 Thread yarddog

Ok, thx for the info. I'm looking forward to it tomorrow. I've had dialup
here in the desert that gives me an average download of 1.5 k/s. Sick. So,
even 20k will be one hell of a mark up. Sounds like it will be fine. Thx.

Jim.

On Tue, 7 May 2002 09:50:03 -0500
Billy R Nordyke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I have them connected with ethernet cards and a hub also.  On the fast
 computers they are netgear cards.  Don't have the model right handy.  On
 the 486 it's a generic 16 bit card.  That really doesn't seem to make
 much difference.  It does seem that keeping the activity on the computer
 connected to the internet (I guess gateway box would be correct) may
 help.  It seems that there should be a way to to get full speed with all
 the boxes but I haven't figured that out yet.  I'm no expert, self
 taught and have more gaps in my knowledge base than anything else.
 
 I've got to go to work now.  Will check back over lunch hour.
 
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Re: partition problems

2002-05-07 Thread Thierry ITTY

Gary,

you should find somewhere the description of partition tables, there's a
difference between the primary partition entries and the logical volume
entries. for what I understand, you tried to create a primary partition
that would have had to map a logical volume, maybe this could explain why
you didn't find anything.

also, you're giving a layout which is I suppose in cylinder units. sometime
weird things happen if you allocate partitions (or logical volumes) giving
partitions extents in other units (MB). you should have to remember how you
initially allocated and use the same unit, if you want to have a chance
getting a good mapping.

what I'd do just before cryin' for mum' whould be to write a script (you
said that you had an up'n running linux on hda) that would create a
partition on hdb from cylinder X to last one and call mount (-t e2fs),
looping from 3 to last - 1, and stop if the mount succeeds (this should
happen only for your old / and /home). I don't know if fdisk has some kind
of batch mode, but there are tools that can be command line driven (of
course I don't remember a name).

good luck



...
We then decided to physically swap the drives making the Windows disk drive 
1, and then re-install windows from scratch.  Once again, scandisk compained 
about the last block being missing on drive 'D', so Andrew fired up fdisk 
(DOS version) and removed the vfat partition.  Unfortunately, it proceeded
to 
remove all partitions in the extened partition -removing all of my Linux 
except the boot partition.

So, now we have the situation that we have no partition table.  I know that 
if you have the start and end cylinder numbers you can just re-create the 
partition table entry. I do know the layout (shown below), but do not know 
any start/end cylinder numbers.  Has anyone got any ideas how I can find
them?

Based on some info we found on the net, we have found that if you know the 
start number, you can create a partition bigger than the original, run 
dumpe2fs on the partition and it will give you the correct size and
therefire 
the end cylinder.  We then set about starting at the end of the disk, 
creating a partition 2490-2491 and tried dumpe2fs, then repeated for 
partition 2489-2491 etc.  until we got to creating the partition 3-2491.  
Unfortunately, we didn't find anything.

Layout of disk

hda1   1-2 boot/boot
hda2   3-2491  extended
hda5   3-? vfat/mnt/win_c (turned out it was actually 'D')
hda6   ?-? linux   /
hda7   ?-? swap
hda8   ?-? linux   /home

(I could live with just getting back /home)
...

- * - * - * - * - * - * -
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COM ADSL Modem Telnet

2002-05-07 Thread Brossin Pierrick



Hi,

I'd like to access my ZyXEL ADSL Modem through the 
COM Port.

Is there any software you would advise me to use 
?

Thanx


Re: COM ADSL Modem Telnet

2002-05-07 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 06:00:23PM +0200, Brossin Pierrick wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'd like to access my ZyXEL ADSL Modem through the COM Port.
 
 Is there any software you would advise me to use ?

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Re: partition problems

2002-05-07 Thread Gary Stainburn

On Tuesday 07 May 2002 2:10 pm, Thierry ITTY wrote:
 Gary,

 you should find somewhere the description of partition tables, there's a
 difference between the primary partition entries and the logical volume
 entries. for what I understand, you tried to create a primary partition
 that would have had to map a logical volume, maybe this could explain why
 you didn't find anything.

The basic problem is quite simple - the partitions ain't there no more.


 also, you're giving a layout which is I suppose in cylinder units. sometime
 weird things happen if you allocate partitions (or logical volumes) giving
 partitions extents in other units (MB). you should have to remember how you
 initially allocated and use the same unit, if you want to have a chance
 getting a good mapping.

The initial allocation was done using Druid while perform the RH72 install, 
so knowing Druid anything could have happened.


 what I'd do just before cryin' for mum' whould be to write a script (you
 said that you had an up'n running linux on hda) that would create a
 partition on hdb from cylinder X to last one and call mount (-t e2fs),
 looping from 3 to last - 1, and stop if the mount succeeds (this should
 happen only for your old / and /home). I don't know if fdisk has some kind
 of batch mode, but there are tools that can be command line driven (of
 course I don't remember a name).

This won't work because the mount would fail because the current and 
predefined sizes don't match.

The script we did write simply called dumpe2fs which just looks at the 
superblock and returns information about the partition including the size.

That script didn't find anything.

However, I have downloaded testdisk which is a partition finder/undeleter so 
I'll try that one tonight.


 good luck


Ta, I need it



 ...

 We then decided to physically swap the drives making the Windows disk
  drive 1, and then re-install windows from scratch.  Once again, scandisk
  compained about the last block being missing on drive 'D', so Andrew
  fired up fdisk (DOS version) and removed the vfat partition. 
  Unfortunately, it proceeded

 to

 remove all partitions in the extened partition -removing all of my Linux
 except the boot partition.
 
 So, now we have the situation that we have no partition table.  I know
  that if you have the start and end cylinder numbers you can just
  re-create the partition table entry. I do know the layout (shown below),
  but do not know any start/end cylinder numbers.  Has anyone got any ideas
  how I can find

 them?

 Based on some info we found on the net, we have found that if you know the
 start number, you can create a partition bigger than the original, run
 dumpe2fs on the partition and it will give you the correct size and

 therefire

 the end cylinder.  We then set about starting at the end of the disk,
 creating a partition 2490-2491 and tried dumpe2fs, then repeated for
 partition 2489-2491 etc.  until we got to creating the partition 3-2491.
 Unfortunately, we didn't find anything.
 
 Layout of disk
 
 hda1 1-2 boot/boot
 hda2 3-2491  extended
 hda5 3-? vfat/mnt/win_c (turned out it was actually 'D')
 hda6 ?-? linux   /
 hda7 ?-? swap
 hda8 ?-? linux   /home
 
 (I could live with just getting back /home)

 ...

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 Mais ne pourrais-je pas l'être mieux ?
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Re: AntiVirus For Email?

2002-05-07 Thread Francisco Neira

I am testing AMaViS with F-Prot over Postfix. No good results yet.  amavis is invoked 
by postfix (piped) but seems that the scanned message is never requeued to the final 
recipient... I'll keep trying.

Mailscanner is another option, with the spam control as a plus, unfortunately doesn't 
works with F-prot free (as in beer) antivirus.

Regards

Francisco

 OK - spent all weekend and with everyone's help, got Postfix+QPopper+Mailman working 
the way (I think) they should be.
 
 Now, the next question is, what is the best way to setup AntiVirus Protection for 
incoming/outgoing mail (Personal and Mailing Lists) and maybe also a Spam Filter?
 
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Re: system security

2002-05-07 Thread daniel

i'm just wondering
why have a router
  THEN a firewall
  and THEN a hub with multipule machiens on it?

isn't the router serving as a firewall itself?
why have two?
why not connect the linux box to the modem
and not use the router at all?

_
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starving programmer

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dying is about wishing you'd made more


- Original Message -
 I am glad to see discussion about  system security because I am just
 considering to build a small LAN.
 Currently, I use a DSL connection with a SMC Barricade router in front of
my
 RedHat 7.2 box. SMC advertised Barricade as a router that has an effective
 built-in firewall.

 I do not plan to connect the rest of the computers to the SMC router, but
to
 a separate switch, through a second ethernet card on the RedHat box.

   |
   |
   DSL modem
   |
  SMC Barricade router
   |
   |
 eth0
RedHat 7.2 box
   eth1
  |
  switch
 |||
  other computers



 Could somebody please tell me how reliable the  SMC Barricade is, and
suggest
 what other protection(s) I should Iconsider.


 I never had to consider security issues before, therefore I would also
 appreciate if you could point me to some good tutorials.


 Julius



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Re: COM ADSL Modem Telnet

2002-05-07 Thread Brossin Pierrick

 On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 06:00:23PM +0200, Brossin Pierrick wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  I'd like to access my ZyXEL ADSL Modem through the COM Port.
  
  Is there any software you would advise me to use ?
 
 minicom

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How do I change eth0 to eth1 at boot

2002-05-07 Thread Kjetil Tjensvold

How do I changer linux to look for eth1 as default
card when dhcpcd  is run during boot?

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Re: How do I change eth0 to eth1 at boot

2002-05-07 Thread Amir Tal

On Tuesday 07 May 2002 19:50, Kjetil Tjensvold wrote:
 How do I changer linux to look for eth1 as default
 card when dhcpcd  is run during boot?

use linuxconf, and define eth1 as dhcp enabled instead of eth0.
dont forget to switch the cables in the NIC's though ;)

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Re: Making RAID 1 Array

2002-05-07 Thread Joe kocias

Thanks for the information.  My Server is co-located, so It will be hard to
test before I try to implement the change.  I do have a DAT Tape drive in
the box, but It is a highly customized webserver, and I would hate to rely
on the tape for restoring the system partition/files.  I could always image
the drive to a spare before trying anything, but I need to know what program
to use.  I  use Ghost exclusively, and I have seen some people say that
Ghost does not do a good job on non-win32 formatted/partitioned drives.
What program should I use?

Joe


- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Making RAID 1 Array


 No one would give a waranty that this would work!
 My gut feeling says that the software raid tools would not destroy the
data
 from the first disk, but just mirror it to the second one.
 But again, if it trashes your harddrive, you are on your own.
 Can you afford some sort of backup?

 One trick that I would suggest is (and you are still on your own if it
fails):
 - install the second drive.
 - make a raid 1 with only that drive in it.
 - make file system on that raid device (usually md0)
 - copy all your files to that raid device.
 - check if the files are intact.
 - erase your old hardisk, and then hotadd it to the raid device.

 If step two fails, then you can probably create the raid 1 with 2 devices,
 that second drive and one bogus drive (/dev/hdsomething).
 Your raid will be in degraded mode when it is created. When both drives
are
 in the raid, then do a hotremove fror the bogus drive.

 You can play arround with software raid tools by creating several small
 partitions in the new harddrive and then raid them.
 See if raid tools would allow you to do raid 1 one device. See if it will
 allow data in the primary partition if it is raided with other device.
 If you do these tests, let me know your results. I am doing several test
 with software raid tools myself.




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Re: ximian red carpet vs. up2date

2002-05-07 Thread Jeff Bearer

I use both, How can this be you say? I use a script, that I got of this
very list.  It takes all the Ximian packages that red-carpet manages and
puts those in the up2date skip list. so you can use up2date for non
desktop packages, and red-carpet for the Ximian packages.

Enjoy!

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#!/bin/sh

EXCL=/var/tmp/exclude-list
CONF=/etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date

# Fixed list of packages to exclude from up2date
LIST=kernel*;*ximian*;

[ -f $EXCL ]  rm -f $EXCL

echo -n pkgSkipList=$LIST  $EXCL

# Build a list of Ximian packages to exclude as well
rpm -qa | grep -- -ximian | sed -e 's/-[0-9].*//' | while read pkg
do
   echo -n $pkg;  $EXCL
done
echo   $EXCL

mv -f $CONF $CONF.old
grep -v ^pkgSkipList= $CONF.old  $CONF
chmod 600 $CONF
cat $EXCL  $CONF
rm -f $EXCL



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  To keep a Redhat system updated, do I better use up2date or the Redhat 7.2-channel 
in Red carpet? Do they provide the same functionality, or is one for some reason a 
better choice over the other?
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Re: AntiVirus For Email?

2002-05-07 Thread Joe kocias

Take a look at RAV.  www.ravantivirus.com  Also look at spamassassin
www.spamassassin.org

Joe
  Any and all suggestions welcome. :)
 
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Re: Making RAID 1 Array

2002-05-07 Thread Javier Gostling

Joe kocias wrote:
 to use.  I  use Ghost exclusively, and I have seen some people say that
 Ghost does not do a good job on non-win32 formatted/partitioned drives.
 What program should I use?

Try using dump/restore.

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Re: Making RAID 1 Array

2002-05-07 Thread Joe kocias

I'll check the man pages for dump/restore.  Thanks very much!!

Joe


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Re: Constant system Halting

2002-05-07 Thread Lim Hock Leong

I experienced this with my system too last time. In the end, i realise it 
is the hardware locking up the system. Its either the CPU running too 
hot(using AMD XP 1800+ with a temp of 60+degree celsius) or the graphics 
card. Problem went away when i bought a new CoolerMaster casing. Think you 
might want to check on that.

At 11:26 AM 5/6/2002 +1000, you wrote:
Hi,

I have a Redhat 7.2 installed on a MSI motherboard (Kt266-Pro), 512Mb
Ram, 1.4GHz Athlon CPU, Voodoo 3 PCI Video card and a Initio 9100UW SCSI
controller.  This is hooked up to a 4.3Gb SCSI drive. I also have a 20Gb
IDE drive for general Storage. File System is Ext3.

The SCSI drive is the main boot and system drive..

Linux my_hostname 2.4.9-31 #1 Tue Feb 26 06:23:51 EST 2002 i686 unknown

FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6 ext3372M   79M  274M  23% /
/dev/sda1 ext3 45M  6.1M   37M  15% /boot
/dev/sda5 ext3703M  218M  449M  33% /home
none tmpfs250M 0  250M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda2 ext31.9G  1.1G  786M  57% /usr
/dev/sda7 ext3251M   76M  161M  32% /var
/dev/hda1 ext3 19G  2.2G   16G  12% /usr/local/backup
/dev/hda2 ext3 17G  3.6G   12G  22% /opt/archive

Modules:
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
autofs 11620   0 (autoclean) (unused)
dmfe   14172   1
usb-uhci   21732   0 (unused)
usbcore51936   1 [usb-uhci]
ext3   62624   7
jbd41156   7 [ext3]
initio 20704   6
sd_mod 11900   6
scsi_mod   98808   2 [initio sd_mod]

The whole systems runs fine.  Very nice in fact, but randomly the system
stops.  Just halts...  It appears that the SCSI drive locks up..

The screen is always blank (Due to inactivity) and I cannot get any
response.
The only way out of it is a reboot (Press the reset button).
And the log files show nothing, No erros, just empty (IE The system just
stops)

I am running the latest RH kernel 2.4.9-31 and all the latest RPM
upgrades.

I have checked and the initio BIOS is the latest available too..

As far as I know I have disabled ALL power management stuff. (but maybe
I missed one?)

This machines doesn't actually do much 90% of the time, but it does need
to be up 100% of the time..  And it's usage will only increase...

Can anyone give me some ideas as to what I may be able to tune to stop
this happening?   Or what info can I supply to maybe help diagnose ??

TIA
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Re: COM ADSL Modem Telnet

2002-05-07 Thread Brossin Pierrick

  Hi,
 
  I'd like to access my ZyXEL ADSL Modem through the COM Port.
 
  Is there any software you would advise me to use ?

 minicom

I installed and configured minicom and tried to access my modem through the
COM1 port.

[root@server /dev]# minicom
Device /dev/ttyS0 lock failed: Operation not permitted.

Any idea why it isnt working ?

The cable could be the guilty one ?

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Re: How do I change eth0 to eth1 at boot

2002-05-07 Thread Kjetil Tjensvold

I cant find linuxconf on the panel. I have redhat 7.2
kernel 2.4.18


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07 May 2002 19:50, Kjetil Tjensvold
 wrote:
  How do I changer linux to look for eth1 as default
  card when dhcpcd  is run during boot?
 
 use linuxconf, and define eth1 as dhcp enabled
 instead of eth0.
 dont forget to switch the cables in the NIC's though
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console tool to add users

2002-05-07 Thread Hernan Brun

Hi Friends.
I´ve configured a redhat 7.2 server.
I want to my secretary can add mail users by simple way.
Anybody know a easy tool for console like userconf to add users?
thanks in advance

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Re: Remotely Start NetScape

2002-05-07 Thread Statux

First export the display that X is running on. It's something like :0 or
0.0, but I forget exactly. Type set and look for DISPLAY under X to see
what yours runs on. So if it's :0, you'd do:

# export DISPLAY=:0
# netscape 

I did it once on another system I was working on. I was logged in on
another terminal and I got an X program running on someone else's display.
Not the most secure, but it worked at the time :)

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 I need to remotely start my Netscape on Redhat 7.1 so that I can view the
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