charmap info from locale?

2002-08-17 Thread John Ellson

Can anyone tell me how a program can determine what character encoding 
(charmap) it should
expect in a user's environment?   I want to use UTF-8 internally, but I 
need to know what to ask
iconv() to convert from.

I can't find anything in the default environment and the locale 
command doesn't seem to
provide charmap data.

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Re: charmap info from locale?

2002-08-17 Thread Miloslav Trmac

On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 05:10:00PM -0400, John Ellson wrote:
 Can anyone tell me how a program can determine what character encoding 
 (charmap) it should
 expect in a user's environment?   I want to use UTF-8 internally, but I 
 need to know what to ask
 iconv() to convert from.
Probably nl_langinfo (CODESET). AFAIK there is no guarantee that the
returned name can be used for iconv, but I hope that glibc is sane
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Shutting down a Windows 2000 server from Linux or vice-versa (slightly off-topic)

2002-08-17 Thread Mike Pelley

Folks,

I have a RH7.0 server and a Windows 2000 server and only one UPS (APC
Back-UPS 1000).  Is there some way that I can have the RH7.0 box
shutdown the Win2K box when the power fails?  Of course, the reverse
would also work!

Thanks!

Cheers,
Mike


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Re: Shutting down a Windows 2000 server from Linux or vice-versa (slightly off-topic)

2002-08-17 Thread Dominic Coallier

there is an add-on card you can add to these UPSes usually to be able to
plug 2 or more computers to it, therefore, to send shutdown signals to both
of them...

I don't know with your model can support this add-on, but the higher end
models support it for sure...

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 Folks,

 I have a RH7.0 server and a Windows 2000 server and only one UPS (APC
 Back-UPS 1000).  Is there some way that I can have the RH7.0 box
 shutdown the Win2K box when the power fails?  Of course, the reverse
 would also work!

 Thanks!

 Cheers,
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Re: Shutting down a Windows 2000 server from Linux or vice-versa (slightly off-topic)

2002-08-17 Thread Kevin Myers

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:46:45 -0230, you wrote:

Folks,

I have a RH7.0 server and a Windows 2000 server and only one UPS (APC
Back-UPS 1000).  Is there some way that I can have the RH7.0 box
shutdown the Win2K box when the power fails?  Of course, the reverse
would also work!

I'm using nut and win-nut to do this sort of thing with a Socomec

NUT http://www.exploits.org/nut/
WinNUT at: http://csociety.ecn.purdue.edu/~delpha/winnut/



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Re: Need help splitting PS file

2002-08-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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I need to split up my Postscripfile in pages.
How can i do this the best way.
I have problem when i use psselect.
[snip]
psselect -p$i ${psfile}  ${pspage}.$i

The first page works fine but the next pages dont work, i can send them
to the printer but not convert them with ps2pdf then it complains on the
ps file format.

There is header information in the PS file. I would guess that ps2pdf
needs that data to do the conversion. But since it only exists in the
first page, it cannot convert the other pages.

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Minor bash problem

2002-08-17 Thread Ragnar Wiencke

Hi guys.

I need to now how to change the cursor prompt. The user gets
sh-2.05$ instead of  something like [user@host folder]$

TIA.
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Re: Can't Open Display: :0

2002-08-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Joseph Wright wrote:
I am trying to get X to start when ever I launch and X app like xclock,
but right now I just get Can't Open Display: :0.

I have tried DISPLAY=:0.0 which still gives me the same error.

An X app depends on X being already running. The app will not start X for
you.

I am receiving this when trying to launch xclock from the physical
machine, but my next step is there a way I can launch xclock via telnet
and have it show up on the physical machine and not on the remote side.

Yes. SSH into the remote machine, set the DISPLAY variable, then launch
the X app. It should display on the X session running on your local
machine.

Forget telnet, it sends passwords in the clear. SSH is probably already
setup if you're running a recent Linux distro.

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Re: Minor bash problem

2002-08-17 Thread Ed Wilts

On Sat, Aug 17, 2002 at 01:17:37PM +0100, Ragnar Wiencke wrote:
 I need to now how to change the cursor prompt. The user gets
 sh-2.05$ instead of  something like [user@host folder]$

man bash
/PROMPTING

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RE: unsubscribe

2002-08-17 Thread Carter, Shaun G

try this

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Re: xcdroast

2002-08-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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I get problems with my RH7.3 installation. The latest
I have are related to xcdroast:

Whenever I try to launch xcdroast, after giving the root passwd,
it dies and I get the following message:

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server

Try using the tarball instead of the included RPM. With the tarball, you
do not have to run it as root. Then you won;t have a problem connecting to
the X server.

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sound for an A30 thinkpad

2002-08-17 Thread Stephen DEsch



I have no sound on my a30 think pad...when i run 
Linux7.1 Has there been a fix in later versions for the sound card or do i 
have to give up on eve having the sound card in my laptop every work? 

 Stuck in silence
 
Stephen


looking for ati 8500dv all-in-wonder drivers for 7.3

2002-08-17 Thread dogface

hello,
im looking for drivers for the ati 8500dv all-in-wonder 
video card. i tried a search on google but came up short.
im running 7.3.

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Re: Minor bash problem

2002-08-17 Thread Martin Mewes

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Hi,

Am Samstag, 17. August 2002 14:17 schrieb Ragnar Wiencke:

 I need to now how to change the cursor prompt. The user gets
 sh-2.05$ instead of  something like [user@host folder]$

This is mine ;-)

PS1='\t \u@\H:\w \$ '
PS2='  '
ignoreeof=1
export PS1 PS2 ignoreeof

Which does this:

17:34:36 macmewes@linux:~ $

bis dahin

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Wireless Network

2002-08-17 Thread Ben Donahue

I have a RedHat 7.3 machine, I just recently set up a
wireless network.  The problem I have is that I
decided in my wireless.opts file to set DHCP='y', but
what i want is a static IP address.  Supposedly in the
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts directory there is
supposed to be a ifcfg-eth0 file that represents
setting for my wireless ethernet card, but for some
reason it does not exist.  I dont know why. Has anyone
had a similar problem?

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Re: sound for an A30 thinkpad

2002-08-17 Thread Patrick Beart
Title: Re: sound for an A30 thinkpad


At 10:53 AM -0400 8/17/02, Stephen DEsch wrote:
I have no
sound on my a30 think pad...when i run Linux7.1 Has there been a
fix in later versions for the sound card or do i have to give up on
eve having the sound card in my laptop every work?
 Stuck in silence

Stephen


Stephen:

 Several
people have noted the problems with sound on certain machines. I use
an IBM Thinkpad 600 (eBay deal) with Red Hat 7.2 (Enigma) and the
default (FULL) install has never produced sound. I get
system beeps when I plug and unplug the power cord, but
that's it.

Upon startup (runlevel 5), I get the following error:

 Error
while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened.
(no such device)

 Sndconfig runs fine from the command line and
can detect the CS4232 driver (Crystal Semiconductor) in
/usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.4.7/sound/CS4232 . However, this changes
nothing (no sound, even from headphones) and still produces
errors.

The problem seems to be in the 2.4.7-10 kernel. Note the September
2001 section of this page:



http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/tp600lnx.htm .

The fix is noted here:

http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/pnpbios.html





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Configuration for Wireless

2002-08-17 Thread Marc Audard

Hi

I have a Linksys WPC11 Wireless card that I would like to
configure. I know that the prism2_cs driver should be sufficient.
However, when I try to configure eth0 with neat/internet-druid,
the list of drivers isn't explicit enough for me to find which
in the list corresponds to prism2_cs.

1) Which driver can I use?
2) How can I configure (using a gui) a wireless card?

Thanks

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Re: Help: running LDAP in RHL73

2002-08-17 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 18:05, Joe Tseng wrote:
 
 # service ldap start
 Starting slapd: /etc/openldap/slapd.conf: Permission denied
 [FAILED]
 
 I had my permissions for slapd.conf set to 700 per recommendations from a
 book

Red Hat's security is better than the book's recommendation :)
Red Hat's init script runs the slapd daemon as the ldap user.  As that
user, it has read access to the slapd.conf file.

 and the owner was set to root; this message goes away if I change it to
 740

Exactly.  You have observed that the default configuration works
properly.  Logical conclusion:  Don't change the default configuration
;)

 I also do not get any messages if I run slapd -f slapd.conf from the
 command line. 

In that case, you're running it as root.

 Any have any ideas why this occurs?  I thought init scripts
 were always run as root.

The init scripts are, but they have the capability of running the daemon
as another user.  That is the case with slapd.  It runs as a non-root
user, because it doesn't need root access to anything.

 Also I have my rootpw in slapd.conf encrypted.  Would this be acceptable if
 my permissions were 740?

Yes, it is.  Changing permissions to 0740 only grants read access to the
ldap group.  Unless you've added untrusted users to the LDAP group, it
will only be readable by the slapd daemon.




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Re: Netatalk and libcrypto.so.0.9.6.1 dependency issue

2002-08-17 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 14:26, Patrick Beart wrote:
 
   I'm trying to network my office Macintosh(-es) and my 
 Thinkpad (running RH 7.2), using Netatalk (v. 1.5.3.1) and I'm 
 running into a dependency issue...

Consider installing the packages from Red Hat 7.3:
http://www.dragonsdawn.net/html/apt/redhat/7.3/en/i386/RPMS.os/netatalk-1.5.2-3.i386.rpm
http://www.dragonsdawn.net/html/apt/redhat/7.3/en/i386/RPMS.updates/openssl095a-0.9.5a-18.i386.rpm
http://www.dragonsdawn.net/html/apt/redhat/7.3/en/i386/RPMS.updates/openssl096-0.9.6-13.i386.rpm
http://www.dragonsdawn.net/html/apt/redhat/7.3/en/i386/RPMS.updates/openssl-0.9.6b-28.i386.rpm

Either that, or get the src.rpm from where ever you found the i386.rpm
package, and use 'rpmbuild --rebuild' to create a binary package
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Re: NIS User cannot login to other xwindows client

2002-08-17 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 01:39, Nicholas Yau wrote:
 
 - i have a server 7.0 which running NIS master . the server which i
 called him titan
 - all user are only added in titan . means i wanted to let user  to use
 single password to login in anywhere.
 - i have a client 7.3 workstation which wanted to authenticate user
 which is added from titan.
 
 [scenarios ]
 1. login from shell or terminal = no problem.
 
 but : users home directory not found. then cannot use the base directory
 automatically.

Either NFS mount /home from titan to your workstations, or use
pam_mkhomedir to create home directories for your users on all of your
workstations.  (The former is probably easier)



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Re: Configuration for Wireless

2002-08-17 Thread Mike Burger

I believe I've read, here, that the orinoco driver should work.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Marc Audard wrote:

 Hi
 
 I have a Linksys WPC11 Wireless card that I would like to
 configure. I know that the prism2_cs driver should be sufficient.
 However, when I try to configure eth0 with neat/internet-druid,
 the list of drivers isn't explicit enough for me to find which
 in the list corresponds to prism2_cs.
 
 1) Which driver can I use?
 2) How can I configure (using a gui) a wireless card?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Configuration for Wireless

2002-08-17 Thread Marc Audard

Yeah maybe, but this one is also not in neat's adapters list.

Furthermore, is there a specific wireless configuration gui 
(e.g., to set the ESSID, etc)?

Marc
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RE: Configuration for Wireless

2002-08-17 Thread Carter, Shaun G

prism2_cs works also, that's what I'm using.  As a side note, since 7.2 (I
think, could have been 7.1) the install configures this card automagically
(I use the same card, beware of lockups though, if you lock up, eject and
reseat the card).  I don't think the new Neat (7.3 and higher) has wireless
config options.  I've been looking for them ever since so I can configure
the wireless AND cabled nics.  Hopefully someone from redhat will respond as
to why this option was removed.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Burger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Configuration for Wireless


I believe I've read, here, that the orinoco driver should work.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Marc Audard wrote:

 Hi
 
 I have a Linksys WPC11 Wireless card that I would like to
 configure. I know that the prism2_cs driver should be sufficient.
 However, when I try to configure eth0 with neat/internet-druid,
 the list of drivers isn't explicit enough for me to find which
 in the list corresponds to prism2_cs.
 
 1) Which driver can I use?
 2) How can I configure (using a gui) a wireless card?
 
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RE: Configuration for Wireless

2002-08-17 Thread Carter, Shaun G

Last I heard WEP is not available, see my last info for the gui answer.

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Yeah maybe, but this one is also not in neat's adapters list.

Furthermore, is there a specific wireless configuration gui 
(e.g., to set the ESSID, etc)?

Marc
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Re: Configuration for Wireless

2002-08-17 Thread Marc Audard

Hi
Carter, Shaun G wrote:
 
 prism2_cs works also, that's what I'm using.  As a side note, since 7.2 (I
 think, could have been 7.1) the install configures this card automagically
 (I use the same card, beware of lockups though, if you lock up, eject and
 reseat the card).  I don't think the new Neat (7.3 and higher) has wireless
 config options.  I've been looking for them ever since so I can configure
 the wireless AND cabled nics.  Hopefully someone from redhat will respond as
 to why this option was removed.
 


Actually, I read more on this list. Apparently (as a user coming from
Mandrake 8.2), RH7.3 is a shitty version compared to RH7.2... I have
had lots of problem related to bugs. Anyway, I just submitted a bug
about this to RH through bugzilla. Hopefully a new redhat-config-network
will be delivered soon.

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Internet Faxing...

2002-08-17 Thread Jim Hale

Is this possible WITHOUT using an external service?

I setup a Fax Server today (WinFax Pro) for me and my wife and I was
just wondering if it was possible to transmit faxes  thru the Internet. 

I have it setup on a phone line but was just wondering if it was
possible to send/receive thru the net.

Currently the box is a WinXP Pro box but would gladly switch it over to
Red Hat if there was a program that will allow me to set it up as a
Server and send faxes via Win2K and WinXp Pro Clients over the net (via
IP) or a phone line - and also receive (of course) :)

Thanks! :)

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Re: Internet Faxing...

2002-08-17 Thread Chris Mason

It's not free, of course, but I use the maxemail service that allows me
to send an email and it is faxed to the intended. I can attach PDF files
to the email and they are rendered.


On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 17:28, Jim Hale wrote:
 Is this possible WITHOUT using an external service?
 
 I setup a Fax Server today (WinFax Pro) for me and my wife and I was
 just wondering if it was possible to transmit faxes  thru the Internet. 
 
 I have it setup on a phone line but was just wondering if it was
 possible to send/receive thru the net.
 
 Currently the box is a WinXP Pro box but would gladly switch it over to
 Red Hat if there was a program that will allow me to set it up as a
 Server and send faxes via Win2K and WinXp Pro Clients over the net (via
 IP) or a phone line - and also receive (of course) :)
 
 Thanks! :)
 
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rpm database and dependecies question

2002-08-17 Thread Al Sparks

I'm trying to install python on my RH 7.2 machine.  I mount the CD, and cd over to the 
RPMS
directory, and 

$ sudo rpm -i python-1.5.2-35.i386.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
libz.so.1   is needed by python-1.5.2-35

I then
$ sudo find /usr -name 'libz.so*'
and I find the shared object.

Now I know that this is because I've probably installed some software w/o rpm that 
installed the
libz shared object.

My questions are:
1.  What's an easy way to find what RH rpm (preferably located on the RH 7.2 disk 
set)?  I already
tried http://www.rpmfind.net.  I also searched Red Hat's site.

2.  I already know that I can force rpm to install python, even with that error.  But 
can I, in
some way manually update the RPM database? 
  === Al


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Re: xcdroast

2002-08-17 Thread Dale Kosan

Or edit the file /etc/security/console.apps/xcdroast and change
SESSION=false to SESSION=true
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Re: rpm database and dependecies question

2002-08-17 Thread Mark C

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 23:10, Al Sparks wrote:
 I'm trying to install python on my RH 7.2 machine.  I mount the CD, and cd over to 
the RPMS
 directory, and 
 
 $ sudo rpm -i python-1.5.2-35.i386.rpm 
 error: failed dependencies:
 libz.so.1   is needed by python-1.5.2-35

install zlib and zlib-devel

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Re: xcdroast

2002-08-17 Thread Marc Audard

Dale Kosan wrote:
 
 Or edit the file /etc/security/console.apps/xcdroast and change
 SESSION=false to SESSION=true


Wonderful. This is what I expected to read.

Tx

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Re: BSD vs Linux ?

2002-08-17 Thread Jonathan Bartlett

 Yes and no.  Linux is more in the news and popular these days, so you
 might find user apps coming out for linux before BSD (of course the
 linux apps will still run on BSD), but some companies will release drivers
 for BSD before linux so they don't have to give away the source code. (GPL
 vs BSD license).

Actually, you don't have to release source code for binary-only drivers in
Linux.

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Re: rpm database and dependecies question

2002-08-17 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Saturday 17 August 2002 06:10 pm, Al Sparks wrote:

 My questions are:
 1.  What's an easy way to find what RH rpm (preferably located on the
 RH 7.2 disk set)?  I already tried http://www.rpmfind.net.  I also
 searched Red Hat's site.

Install the rpmdb-redhat package, which allows you to querry packages 
which aren't installed.
This will allow you to do:
$ rpm -q --redhatprovides libz.so.1
zlib-1.1.3-25.7

 2.  I already know that I can force rpm to install python, even with
 that error.  But can I, in some way manually update the RPM database?

Yes, you can manually update the database, but you probably don't want to 
do that. If you want to tell rpm a package is installed, (did I mention 
you don't want to do this?) You can run:
rpm -ivh --justdb (perhaps --nodeps --force) /path/to/package.rpm

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xscreensaver fading: not with KDE?

2002-08-17 Thread Marc Audard

Hi

I noticed that the fading option for xscreensaver when using
KDE does not work. Indeed I can only access this option with
xscreensaver-demo, not with the preferences accessible with
the KDE lock button. Is this a feature, or a bug?

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Question on menu items

2002-08-17 Thread Monte Milanuk

I've been playing w/ Debian 3.0 lately for some low end machines I have.  
One thing that I noticed (again) that is really nice about the way Debian 
does things is the menu system.  For those not familiar w/ Debian, it 
maintains a consistent menu 'hierarchy', for lack of a better term, so 
that the menus will be pretty much the same in every windowmanager on the 
machine.  It also automatically updates the menu entries when new 
software is added.  

As an example, I had a bare-bones X-Windows system installed, did an 
apt-get install of WindowMaker, then once I was in WindowMaker, I 
realized that I only had xterm.  Just for personal taste, I prefer rxvt, 
given the choice.  So I opened an xterm, su'd to root, did an apt-get 
install of rxvt, and a few minutes later (remember, slow system here), 
the menu hierarchy looked like this: (from a right click in WindowMaker)

Apps
Games
Help
Screen
Windowmanagers
Workspace
XShells -- Rxvt
Xterm
Xterm (Unicode)


With rxvt being automagically added.  To test that it would actually be 
added to all windowmanagers, I exited from X, edited my .xinitrc to start 
XFCE instead, did a startx, and now from a right-click in XFCE,

New Window
User Menu   ---User Menu
Run Program Edit Menu
Arrange Icons   Debian  ---Apps
Iconify All GNOME   Games
Refresh KDE Screen
Shuffle Up  Windowmanagers
Shuffle DownWorkspace
SettingsXShells ---Rxvt
Quit   
 Xterm
   
 Xterm (Unicode)

Right now I'm starting to look around and see if there is some port of 
this available.  If anyone knows of one, please let me know.

I for one would like to see something like this for at least the 
applications on the RedHat install CDs, if not more.  Just figure it'd be 
easier (for RedHat) to make this work consistently w/ at least the 
'factory' packages.  The menu system from what I gather, is somewhat 
configurable, so you can make the different menu titles what you want, 
and so you can control how many entries in a sub-menu, so that if you 
have something like 20 different editors installed, they wouldn't all 
have to be lumped under 'Apps -- Editors'.  Instead you could have a 
'Apps -- Editors -- Novice' or 'Apps -- Editors -- Advanced'.  
Obviously, there has to be away to turn it off, so that if an 
administrator installs a test version of a program, it doesn't show up on 
everybody's desktop menu, especially if it doesn't work ;)

So, what do y'all think?

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Re: xf86ttfontool-0.1-14.i386.rpm

2002-08-17 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Saturday 17 August 2002 01:11 am, Michael Fratoni wrote:
 On Saturday 17 August 2002 12:43 am, Hal Burgiss wrote:
[...]
  I did an rpm of the 16 bit ones a while back (before cabextract was
  around), and that license seems to me allows redistribution:
[...]
 I have an rpm containing the 32 bit versions, rather than downloading
 via a script. I'll make it available at some point.
[...]
 The license for the 32 bit versions is quite similar, and also seems to
 allow redistribution.

 *  Reproduction and Distribution. You may reproduce and distribute an
 unlimited number of copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT; provided that each
 copy shall be a true and complete copy, including all copyright and
 trademark notices, and shall be accompanied by a copy of this EULA.
 Copies of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT may not be distributed for profit either
 on a standalone basis or included as part of your own product.

It appears to me that providing the complete archive of the core fonts for 
the web and not charging a fee for the product meets the requirements 
above. Since I'm not a lawyer, that probably doesn't mean a lot. Anyone 
who happens to be a lawyer should feel free to jump right in and save me 
from myself. ;) 

http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/core_fonts-0.1-3.noarch.rpm
http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/core_fonts-0.1-3.src.rpm

Install the package and execute /usr/X11R6/bin/core_font_install.sh

The package requires cabextract, which I've also packaged.

http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/cabextract-0.6-1.i386.rpm
http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/cabextract-0.6-1.src.rpm

Enjoy!

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Re: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

2002-08-17 Thread David Kramer

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:

  Yes and no.  Linux is more in the news and popular these days, so you
  might find user apps coming out for linux before BSD (of course the
  linux apps will still run on BSD), but some companies will release drivers
  for BSD before linux so they don't have to give away the source code. (GPL
  vs BSD license).
 
 Actually, you don't have to release source code for binary-only drivers in
 Linux.

You have to release the source code if you release under GPL, and if you 
don't release under GPL it's not ending up on disk 1 of the Red Hat 
distro. AFAIK, everything on disk 1 has to be open source.  Forgot why 
though.



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RE: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

2002-08-17 Thread Jonathan M. Slivko

This is my $0.02 cents on the subject:

FreeBSD appears to handle better and is more business-centric whereas
Red Hat, if used properly, can be the same. However, FreeBSD acts a
little better and is more secure on a default system install, whereas
Red Hat doesn't get such high marks, as a poster on another thread
stated not too long ago (either yesterday or today). If you are in a
mission critical environment, I would say FreeBSD would be a better bet
than Red Hat (unless you absolutely know what your doing) for the newer
people starting out in the Linux world.

As a friend of mine on IRC (Internet Relay Chat) said: 
Black Hat == cracker; White Hat == hacker; Grey Hat == guru; Red Hat ==
victim.

However, I am not saying that everyone on this list should migrate to
FreeBSD, not at all. All I'm saying is that if you want to use it in a
mission-critical production environment, it's best to have a good grasp
on Linux and the basics of Red Hat, especially in the security arena.

Well, that's my $0.02 cents worth.

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Subject: Re: [REDHAT] Re: BSD vs Linux ?

On Sat, 17 Aug 2002, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:

  Yes and no.  Linux is more in the news and popular these days, so
you
  might find user apps coming out for linux before BSD (of course the
  linux apps will still run on BSD), but some companies will release
drivers
  for BSD before linux so they don't have to give away the source
code. (GPL
  vs BSD license).
 
 Actually, you don't have to release source code for binary-only
drivers in
 Linux.

You have to release the source code if you release under GPL, and if you

don't release under GPL it's not ending up on disk 1 of the Red Hat 
distro. AFAIK, everything on disk 1 has to be open source.  Forgot why 
though.




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Re: How to compare RPM versions?

2002-08-17 Thread Bret Hughes

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 00:23, Werner Puschitz wrote:
 
 Is there a simple way to find out which RPM version is newer?
 
 For instance I have a bunch of RPM files with the same RPM name but with
 different version numbers.
 Doing a numeric comparison doesn't work in all cases since some versions
 contain letters like x, p, etc. And doing a string comparison doesn't 
 work either when you have numbers like 9 and 13 which would result in 
 9 being greater.
 
 Is there a simple method to find out which RPM version is newer?
 
I compare buildtimes in the script I wrote to remove duplicate rpms from
my local updates dir.

rpm -qp --queryformat '%{BUILDTIME}'

Bret

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Re: looking for ati 8500dv all-in-wonder drivers for 7.3

2002-08-17 Thread Bret Hughes

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 10:27, dogface wrote:
 hello,
 im looking for drivers for the ati 8500dv all-in-wonder 
 video card. i tried a search on google but came up short.
 im running 7.3.
 
 TIA
 eric
 --

Eric-

are you having specific problems?  

From 
http://xfree86.org/4.2.0/Status6.html#6

4.2.0:

Accelerated support is provided for Mach64, Rage, Rage 128 and
Radeon chips by the ati driver, as is unaccelerated support for all of
the others except the Mach8 and some early Mach32 chips.


I think the 8500 is a radeon chip IIRC.

SHould work at least at some level right out of the box.

Bret



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C shell

2002-08-17 Thread Zubair Adamjee
Hi,
I am new to Red Hat Linux and was wondering how to start a C shell ?
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Re: C shell

2002-08-17 Thread Ed . Greshko

On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Zubair Adamjee wrote:

 I am new to Red Hat Linux and was wondering how to start a C shell ?

/bin/csh   to start it from your current shell.

or

edit your entry in the /etc/passwd file to make your default shell 
C-shell.

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