RE: Finding CPU Utilization %

2003-08-02 Thread SKY
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This might be splitting hairs, but the load average,
as I understand it, is not exactly CPU utilization.
Rather, it is a count of the number of runnable processes.

This suffices as a crude measure of system activity 98%
of the time. But how would you query actual CPU occupancy?

Something like measured number of jiffies / jiffies per second * n

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 On Thu Jun 05 2003 at 06:12, girish sondur wrote:
 
  I want to find out the CPU Utilization of the Linux Machine. I
  dont want to use TOP since it is in itself CPU intensive. Please
  suggest the best way to do so?
 
 $ cat /proc/loadavg
 
 Cheers
 Tony
 
 
 


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C question

2003-08-02 Thread Buz Davis
Sorry if this is as dumb as I feel, but I haven't been successful at
digging out
an answer.

I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
pressed,
and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been) there was a c
routine
called getch() that would do just this.  I can't seem to find one under
Linux.

I have tried calls to setvbuf specifying _IONBF, hoping that it would
alter the
workings of fgetc(stdin), but it didn't seem to help.  I tried copying
the unbuffered
getchar routine (which uses read(0,c,1)) from KR, but it waits for me
to press
ENTER, too.  The only success I've had involved guessing at how to use
Curses.
Unfortunately, although the man pages for individual curses routines
(like it's getch)
say 'see also curses(3x)'  there apparently is no such page on my
system, so
I really don't know if I am misusing things or not.
(Second question: is there an overview of Curses available somewhere ?).

Could somebody point me in the right direction ?

Thanks,

Buz Davis


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Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:36:17 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote:

 Is your configuration a SCSI?  If it is then there is a explanation

That wouldn't access the harddisk drives as /dev/hda and /dev/hdb,
respectively.

Btw, it would be great if you could trim your quotes. There's no need in
quoting list footers and superfluous things.

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Re: GRUB failure

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:47:47 -0400, Kenneth Goodwin wrote:

 Anyone know for certain who is printing out the INitial GRUB
 message?
 
 The MBR or phase two piece.

MBR (stage1) prints only GRUB because of space constraints. It has
only very few and short error messages.

The next code (stage 1.5) is still loaded directly from harddisk,
but after that GRUB is able to access the ext2 file-system and load
stage2 and other files.

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Re: GRUB Failure

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 19:40:49 -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote:

 There is also a explanation if the volumes are LVM or RAID.

No.

LVM is not available before the initrd is loaded and the kernel is
started. Same for Software-RAID. You boot from a physical device,
not a logical one. With Hardware-RAID, the two drives would not
appear as individual drives hda and hdb.

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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 03:19:07 -0400, Buz Davis wrote:

 I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
 pressed,
 and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
 Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been) there was a c
 routine
 called getch() that would do just this.  I can't seem to find one under
 Linux.

It requires quite a bit more than calling a single function.
Find a program that does it and read its source code. From the
top of my head, I know that sidplay2 http://sf.net/projects/sidplay2
does it, for instance.

 Unfortunately, although the man pages for individual curses routines
 (like it's getch)
 say 'see also curses(3x)'  there apparently is no such page on my
 system, so
 I really don't know if I am misusing things or not.
 (Second question: is there an overview of Curses available somewhere ?).

In the ncurses-devel package you get all manual pages for ncurses,
including ncurses(3x).

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usb mouse not working after recompiling kernel

2003-08-02 Thread Olivier Vanderstraeten
I have the same problem, but I think I know why (but can't fix it though).
I recompiled RH9 on my laptop and the USB mouse worked, but I recompiled RH9 on my 
server and that failed, the only difference between the 2 lsmod results are that on 
the laptop, input is:
 
input   [mousedev keybdev hid]
 
while the server lacks the hid module under input.  My take on this is that the OS 
doesn't look to the hid devices for input, but I don't know how to load hid as part of 
the input group.  My USB and and input config trees under the kernel tree build spec 
are identical on the laptop and the server.  I can't just take my working laptop 
kernel config file over to the server and recompile though because of the server being 
smp and shock full of scsi devices  In case you're wondering, a cat of  
/proc/bus/usb/devices correctly shows my mouse (if it's plugged in) on the server, 
it's just not under the input module tree.
 
Anyone have a suggestion??
 
Thanks in any case-
Olivier


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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Buz Davis wrote:

 I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
 pressed,
 and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
 Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been) there was a c
 routine
 called getch() that would do just this.  I can't seem to find one under
 Linux.

Okay, this is going to be an unorthodox answer, but it may get you where 
you need to go...

If your program is only going to run on PC's, you can always go to the 
BIOS memory.  I can't remember the exact address (though I'll look it up 
when I get home, if you like) but the BIOS has a keyboard buffer and two 
pointers.  When I was writing a video game way back in '91-'92, we took 
control of the buffer and buffer pointers with C pointers, and it worked 
great!  

Of course, you'd have no portability

Ben


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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
man getch

Looks like it's found in curses.h

Jon

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:

 On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Buz Davis wrote:

  I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
  pressed,
  and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
  Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been) there was a c
  routine
  called getch() that would do just this.  I can't seem to find one under
  Linux.

 Okay, this is going to be an unorthodox answer, but it may get you where
 you need to go...

 If your program is only going to run on PC's, you can always go to the
 BIOS memory.  I can't remember the exact address (though I'll look it up
 when I get home, if you like) but the BIOS has a keyboard buffer and two
 pointers.  When I was writing a video game way back in '91-'92, we took
 control of the buffer and buffer pointers with C pointers, and it worked
 great!

 Of course, you'd have no portability

 Ben


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RE: GRUB failure

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
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  Is your configuration a SCSI?  If it is then there is a explanation
 
 That wouldn't access the harddisk drives as /dev/hda and /dev/hdb,
 respectively.
 
 Btw, it would be great if you could trim your quotes. There's no need
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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread MKlinke
On Saturday 02 August 2003 02:19, Buz Davis wrote:
 Sorry if this is as dumb as I feel, but I haven't been successful at
 digging out
 an answer.

 I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
 pressed,
 and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
 Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been) there was a c
 routine
 called getch() that would do just this.  I can't seem to find one
 under Linux.

 I have tried calls to setvbuf specifying _IONBF, hoping that it would
 alter the
 workings of fgetc(stdin), but it didn't seem to help.  I tried
 copying the unbuffered
 getchar routine (which uses read(0,c,1)) from KR, but it waits for
 me to press
 ENTER, too.  The only success I've had involved guessing at how to
 use Curses.
 Unfortunately, although the man pages for individual curses routines
 (like it's getch)
 say 'see also curses(3x)'  there apparently is no such page on my
 system, so
 I really don't know if I am misusing things or not.
 (Second question: is there an overview of Curses available somewhere
 ?).

 Could somebody point me in the right direction ?

 Thanks,

 Buz Davis

A quick google search shows many links about this 

The comp.lang.c 'C' FAQ section 19.2 list some advice about this:

http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/s19.html
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man 3 termios
and the following routine senting up termios that seems to be what 
you're after:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=getch+linuxhl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8selm=8243-244521904%40townsq.comrnum=4

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understand there may be some differences between this and MSDOS 
operation.

man curs_getch - if you haven't tried this variation of the man page

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Re: Pre-make 'configure' program can't find mysql libraries?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Fratoni
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On Friday 01 August 2003 10:07 am, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
[...]
 I'm runnning RedHat 8.0, with everything up2date.  I hadn't had
 mysql-devel installed, so I installed that with up2date, cleared the
 config cache and tried it again.  Again, configure isn't finding the
 libraries.  The configure program said to check the ld.so.conf file for
 entries for the libraries.  It looks right to me (file shown at the
 bottom of the post).  So, I ran ldconfig and then cleared the cache
 again, and still no dice.

 I have the following RedHat RPMs installed:

 mysql-devel-3.23.56-1.80
 mysql-3.23.56-1.80
 mysql-server-3.23.56-1.80

 my /etc/ld.so.conf looks like:

 /usr/kerberos/lib
 /usr/X11R6/lib
 /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib
 /usr/lib/sane
 /usr/lib/mysql
 /usr/include/mysql

The mysql directory above looks suspect. It should be the path to the 
mysql libraries, not to the mysql include directory.
Try replacing /usr/include/mysql with
/usr/lib/mysql
Then run ldconfig again.

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Suport for cedilha

2003-08-02 Thread Robert Mena
Hi Bret,

I am facing the same problem.  I can use all accent
characters but even with KDe configured the  and ç
dows not work under Redhat 9.

Unfortunately no one in this list or redhat seems to
have experience with that or interest of solving it.

Valeu

- rt


Hi,

  I've been an end user of Mandrake Linux for a number
of years now, 
but
recently decided to give Red Hat 9 a try. I've had two
big problems so
far.


  The second problem has to do with keying in the c
cedilha. I use a US
keyboard with dead keys to key in accented letters and
the c cedilha. 
In
the bash shell and in emacs, Red Hat is acting the
same as Mandrake 
when
I type in the usual '-c combination -- an accented c.
That is not what 
I
want but is acceptable, since I normally don't use
accented letters in
bash or emacs. However, in several other programs in
which I do, Ximian
Evolution and Lyx, in particular, the key combination
gives completely
useless  results. In Evolution, the combination
produces an underscore
while in Lyx it isn't even recognized.

   I am using the us_intl keymap, as I did in
Mandrake, and I think 
I've
tried every possible keyboard type that's within
reason, but nothing
works. So what's going on? If XFree86 isn't taking
care of the 
keyboard,
what is?

 Best regards, Brett Carlson

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Re: usb mouse not working after recompiling kernel

2003-08-02 Thread ABrady
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 07:51:09 -0400
Olivier Vanderstraeten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have the same problem, but I think I know why (but can't fix it
 though). I recompiled RH9 on my laptop and the USB mouse worked, but I
 recompiled RH9 on my server and that failed, the only difference
 between the 2 lsmod results are that on the laptop, input is:
  
 input   [mousedev keybdev hid]
  
 while the server lacks the hid module under input.  My take on this is
 that the OS doesn't look to the hid devices for input, but I don't
 know how to load hid as part of the input group.  My USB and and input
 config trees under the kernel tree build spec are identical on the
 laptop and the server.  I can't just take my working laptop kernel
 config file over to the server and recompile though because of the
 server being smp and shock full of scsi devices  In case you're
 wondering, a cat of  /proc/bus/usb/devices correctly shows my mouse
 (if it's plugged in) on the server, it's just not under the input
 module tree.
  
 Anyone have a suggestion??

Not the kind of suggestion that's going to make you happy.

I use both USB mouse and keyboard. To date not a single kernel I've
compiled has seen USB work.As an experiment, I turned everything on,
turned off the obvious things I didn't need that also had zero to do
with USB (like some of the firewalling and networking, some of the radio
stuff, etc) and compiled. Still no USB.

I read a complaint of a similar nature on one of the Redhat lists I was
subscribed to at the time, and I later saw a question concerning the
same subject by someone else on this list. Who knows how many exist that
I either missed, haven't said anything about it or just don't subscribe
to any lists I read. But it's apparent to me that USB compiling has some
oddities and uncertainties.

There may be some unusual qualities to the devices themselves. In my own
case, though,  that would also mean I had to coincidentally own 2 such
keyboards and 2 such mice that just happened to be made by different
manufacturers on 3 separate machines with 3 different motherboard
manufacturers.

So my suggestion is, go back to something that works (pre-compiled) or
use something non-USB devices.

Sorry. I can't think of any other alternative since I can't tell you
what's causing it.

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RE: GRUB failure

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  That wouldn't access the harddisk drives as /dev/hda and /dev/hdb,
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Re: Pre-make 'configure' program can't find mysql libraries?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Fratoni
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On Saturday 02 August 2003 10:58 am, Michael Fratoni wrote:
 On Friday 01 August 2003 10:07 am, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:

  my /etc/ld.so.conf looks like:
 
  /usr/kerberos/lib
  /usr/X11R6/lib
  /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib
  /usr/lib/sane
  /usr/lib/mysql
  /usr/include/mysql

 The mysql directory above looks suspect. It should be the path to the
 mysql libraries, not to the mysql include directory.
 Try replacing /usr/include/mysql with
 /usr/lib/mysql
 Then run ldconfig again.

Oops, pre coffee answer, sorry. I missed the /usr/lib/mysql line that is 
already there.

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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:20:35AM -0500, Benjamin J. Weiss wrote:
 On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Buz Davis wrote:
  I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
  pressed, and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
  ...
 
 Okay, this is going to be an unorthodox answer, but it may get you where 
 you need to go...
 BIOS read recommended 
 ...
 Of course, you'd have no portability

To put it mildly...

You're interacting with the stdio library.  Use 'getc'--do man getc--for
single-character input.  Since terminal input is line buffered, you will
have to make a call to 'setbuf'.

HOWEVER, if you're on Unix/Linux, you'll also have to turn off buffering
in the tty driver.  This involves a call to tcgetattr, clearing at
least ICANON, in the c_lflag element, and then a call to tcsetattr.
(This will still show the input character being echoed; you'll have to
separately turn that off.)  Man 'termios' for all this.

It sounds uglier than it is--the following really stupid example shows
how to do it.  You should--as I don't here--check return values, etc.
(FOR THE NITPICKERS:  I REPEAT, IT IS A QUICK AND DIRTY EXAMPLE.
DON'T POST OR MAIL TO TELL ME IT SHOULD BE MORE ROBUST...)

#include stdio.h
#include termios.h
#include unistd.h

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
char foo;
struct termios krod;

setvbuf(stdin,NULL,_IONBF,0);

tcgetattr(fileno(stdin),krod);
krod.c_lflag ^= (ICANON|ECHO);
tcsetattr(fileno(stdin),TCSANOW,krod);

for(;;)
{
foo = getc(stdin);
printf(Got %c\n, foo);

if ( foo == 'x' )
break;
}
}

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RE: GRUB failure

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Re: Sound driver latency

2003-08-02 Thread Greg Bell

An update on this issue...  the Xmms output driver has a setting that 
controls the latency.  I set this to 30ms (it was 3000ms, matching the 
latency I was experiencing).

I also set the aRtsd latency to 30ms via the control panel.  I also set 
realtime scheduling and made sure artsdwrapper was SUID root.

However, Xmms still has a latency of 3s, making it nearly unusable.

Interestingly, Xmms using OSS does NOT show the latency, nor does the 
noatun player using aRtsd server.  Interesting.  So I decided it was 
something specific to the Xmms aRtsd output plugin and posted a bug to 
bugs.xmms.org.

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Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Sevatio
Hardware Scenario: 2 PCs connected to a hub/switch and the hub/switch is 
connected to a Comcast cable modem that is then connected to the Comcast 
Cable Internet system.

Main Question: Is it possible to route things in a manner that enables 
the 2 PCs to send data (via FTP or whatever) to each other at LAN speed 
(10/100mbps)?  What happens now is that the data transfer is limited to 
Comcast's upstream limit (256kbps) because the packets are going out to 
the internet and coming back to the other PC.  How would I set this up 
so that the packets to go directly through the hub/switch to the other 
PC resulting in a much faster transfer rate?

Side note: I noticed that 2 PCs running Windows w/ Netbeui and file 
sharing, the data transfer is that of LAN speed.

So what is Netbeui  Windows File Sharing doing that is allowing the LAN 
speed connection between the 2 PCs and how can I get my 2 Linux boxes to 
 ftp to each other at LAN speed given the hardware scenario?

Thanks,
Sevatio
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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 08:22:52AM -0700, Sevatio wrote:
 Hardware Scenario: 2 PCs connected to a hub/switch and the hub/switch is 
 connected to a Comcast cable modem that is then connected to the Comcast 
 Cable Internet system.
 
 Main Question: Is it possible to route things in a manner that enables 
 the 2 PCs to send data (via FTP or whatever) to each other at LAN speed 
 (10/100mbps)?  

Absolutely yes, LAN speeds is what most people who have this arrangement
are getting.

How did you get it setup so that all the packets have to go out to the 
internet instead of going directly to the other PC?

Are your PC's running Linux?

Have you run tcpdump to see what the packets are doing ?




What happens now is that the data transfer is limited to 
 Comcast's upstream limit (256kbps) because the packets are going out to 
 the internet and coming back to the other PC.  How would I set this up 
 so that the packets to go directly through the hub/switch to the other 
 PC resulting in a much faster transfer rate?
 
 Side note: I noticed that 2 PCs running Windows w/ Netbeui and file 
 sharing, the data transfer is that of LAN speed.
 
 So what is Netbeui  Windows File Sharing doing that is allowing the LAN 
 speed connection between the 2 PCs and how can I get my 2 Linux boxes to 
   ftp to each other at LAN speed given the hardware scenario?
 
 Thanks,
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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sevatio
 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Comcast  Routing
 
 Hardware Scenario: 2 PCs connected to a hub/switch and the hub/switch
 is
 connected to a Comcast cable modem that is then connected to the
 Comcast
 Cable Internet system.
 
 Main Question: Is it possible to route things in a manner that enables
 the 2 PCs to send data (via FTP or whatever) to each other at LAN
 speed
 (10/100mbps)?  What happens now is that the data transfer is limited
 to
 Comcast's upstream limit (256kbps) because the packets are going out
 to
 the internet and coming back to the other PC.  How would I set this up
 so that the packets to go directly through the hub/switch to the other
 PC resulting in a much faster transfer rate?
 
 Side note: I noticed that 2 PCs running Windows w/ Netbeui and file
 sharing, the data transfer is that of LAN speed.
 
 So what is Netbeui  Windows File Sharing doing that is allowing the
 LAN
 speed connection between the 2 PCs and how can I get my 2 Linux boxes
 to
   ftp to each other at LAN speed given the hardware scenario?
 
 Thanks,
 Sevatio
 
 
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Are you connected through a hub or a router.  In any case if your
computers are networked together, why do you need to use ftp at all.
Setup the systems as nfs or if they are windows map the drives and you
should not need ftp because you can access the files directly.  The
answer to your question is routing.  If you are using a hub then you
will not have the problem as long as the two computers have a common
protocol to use (windows are using netbeui).


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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Cowles, Steve
Sevatio wrote:
 Hardware Scenario: 2 PCs connected to a hub/switch and the hub/switch
 is connected to a Comcast cable modem that is then connected to the
 Comcast Cable Internet system.
 
 Main Question: Is it possible to route things in a manner that enables
 the 2 PCs to send data (via FTP or whatever) to each other at LAN
 speed (10/100mbps)?  What happens now is that the data transfer is
 limited to Comcast's upstream limit (256kbps) because the packets are
 going out to the internet and coming back to the other PC.  How would
 I set this up so that the packets to go directly through the
 hub/switch to the other PC resulting in a much faster transfer rate?

1) please show your route tables. i.e. netstat -rn

2) Are the PC's that are connecting to Comacast PPPoE based? groan In
other words... a /32 bit mask?

 
 Side note: I noticed that 2 PCs running Windows w/ Netbeui and file
 sharing, the data transfer is that of LAN speed.

NetBeui is a non routable protocol.

 
 So what is Netbeui  Windows File Sharing doing that is allowing the
 LAN speed connection between the 2 PCs and how can I get my 2 Linux
   boxes to ftp to each other at LAN speed given the hardware scenario?

NetBeui does not ride on top of TCP/IP (like netbios). In fact, netbeui does
not require TCP/IP to even be loaded.

If your PC's connection to Comcast is PPPoE based, your only solution (that
I'm aware of) is to install a firewall that makes the PPPoE connection to
Comcast on a separate interface (eth0) and then configure your PC's to use
an rfc1918 based network behind the firewall. i.e. eth0 of firewall connects
to comcast, eth1 of firewall connects to hub or switch.

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Wireless card problem

2003-08-02 Thread lserver
Gentleman,
i already spent about week trying to solve this ...
but so far not many positive results.
I don't want to post all details here. Just please
take a quick look here:
ttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=threadid=68526perpage=30pagenumber=1

my login name there is DBabo.

any ideas would help me a lot


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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread James Gibbon

Buz Davis wrote:

 
 I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single
 key pressed, and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to
 be pressed. Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been)
 there was a c routine called getch() that would do just this.  I
 can't seem to find one under Linux.
 

look up getc and relatives in a C manual - it's very do-able.




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Re: Pre-make 'configure' program can't find mysql libraries?

2003-08-02 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
snip
  my /etc/ld.so.conf looks like:
 
  /usr/kerberos/lib
  /usr/X11R6/lib
  /usr/lib/qt-3.0.5/lib
  /usr/lib/sane
  /usr/lib/mysql
  /usr/include/mysql
 
 The mysql directory above looks suspect. It should be the path to the 
 mysql libraries, not to the mysql include directory.
 Try replacing /usr/include/mysql with
 /usr/lib/mysql
 Then run ldconfig again.

Um../usr/lib/mysql is the second from the bottom line.

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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread James Gibbon

Dave Ihnat wrote:

 HOWEVER, if you're on Unix/Linux, you'll also have to turn off
 buffering in the tty driver.  This involves a call to tcgetattr,
 clearing at least ICANON, in the c_lflag element, and then a call
 to tcsetattr. (This will still show the input character being
 echoed; you'll have to separately turn that off.)  Man 'termios'
 for all this.
 

Don't really need to do this unless there's a 'real time' 
element, or some reason that buffered chars can't be used.

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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Sevatio


Otto Haliburton wrote:

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sevatio
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Comcast  Routing
Hardware Scenario: 2 PCs connected to a hub/switch and the hub/switch
is
connected to a Comcast cable modem that is then connected to the
Comcast
Cable Internet system.
Main Question: Is it possible to route things in a manner that enables
the 2 PCs to send data (via FTP or whatever) to each other at LAN
speed
(10/100mbps)?  What happens now is that the data transfer is limited
to
Comcast's upstream limit (256kbps) because the packets are going out
to
the internet and coming back to the other PC.  How would I set this up
so that the packets to go directly through the hub/switch to the other
PC resulting in a much faster transfer rate?
Side note: I noticed that 2 PCs running Windows w/ Netbeui and file
sharing, the data transfer is that of LAN speed.
So what is Netbeui  Windows File Sharing doing that is allowing the
LAN
speed connection between the 2 PCs and how can I get my 2 Linux boxes
to
 ftp to each other at LAN speed given the hardware scenario?
Thanks,
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Are you connected through a hub or a router.  In any case if your
computers are networked together, why do you need to use ftp at all.
Setup the systems as nfs or if they are windows map the drives and you
should not need ftp because you can access the files directly.  The
answer to your question is routing.  If you are using a hub then you
will not have the problem as long as the two computers have a common
protocol to use (windows are using netbeui).

So, you're saying that it makes a difference whether I use a hub or a 
router?  I have both but I've noticed no difference between the two 
because I still can't send packets directly from one pc to another 
through the hub/switch via ftp.  Also, the netbeui thing was an 
experiment.  I prefer not using netbeui and Windows.

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Re: C question

2003-08-02 Thread David Eduardo Gomez Noguera
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 02:19, Buz Davis wrote:
 Sorry if this is as dumb as I feel, but I haven't been successful at
 digging out
 an answer.
 
 I would like a routine to read the keyboard and report the single key
 pressed,
 and give me control back without waiting for ENTER to be pressed.
 Under MSDOS (where all of my c experience has been) there was a c
 routine
 called getch() that would do just this.  I can't seem to find one under
 Linux.
 
 I have tried calls to setvbuf specifying _IONBF, hoping that it would
 alter the
 workings of fgetc(stdin), but it didn't seem to help.  I tried copying
 the unbuffered
 getchar routine (which uses read(0,c,1)) from KR, but it waits for me
 to press
 ENTER, too.  The only success I've had involved guessing at how to use
 Curses.
 Unfortunately, although the man pages for individual curses routines
 (like it's getch)
 say 'see also curses(3x)'  there apparently is no such page on my
 system, so
 I really don't know if I am misusing things or not.
 (Second question: is there an overview of Curses available somewhere ?).
 
 Could somebody point me in the right direction ?
 

you might want to read the infopage of (g)libc on Terminal Modes.
But maybe it would be easier to take a look at ncurses (which i never
had), I have heard there are a routines to dealt with those sort of
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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton


 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sevatio
 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:16 AM
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 Subject: Re: Comcast  Routing
 
 
 
 Otto Haliburton wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sevatio
 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Comcast  Routing
 
 Hardware Scenario: 2 PCs connected to a hub/switch and the
 hub/switch
 is
 connected to a Comcast cable modem that is then connected to the
 Comcast
 Cable Internet system.
 
 Main Question: Is it possible to route things in a manner that
 enables
 the 2 PCs to send data (via FTP or whatever) to each other at LAN
 speed
 (10/100mbps)?  What happens now is that the data transfer is limited
 to
 Comcast's upstream limit (256kbps) because the packets are going out
 to
 the internet and coming back to the other PC.  How would I set this
 up
 so that the packets to go directly through the hub/switch to the
 other
 PC resulting in a much faster transfer rate?
 
 Side note: I noticed that 2 PCs running Windows w/ Netbeui and file
 sharing, the data transfer is that of LAN speed.
 
 So what is Netbeui  Windows File Sharing doing that is allowing the
 LAN
 speed connection between the 2 PCs and how can I get my 2 Linux
 boxes
 to
   ftp to each other at LAN speed given the hardware scenario?
 
 Thanks,
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  Are you connected through a hub or a router.  In any case if your
  computers are networked together, why do you need to use ftp at all.
  Setup the systems as nfs or if they are windows map the drives and
 you
  should not need ftp because you can access the files directly.  The
  answer to your question is routing.  If you are using a hub then you
  will not have the problem as long as the two computers have a common
  protocol to use (windows are using netbeui).
 
 
 
 So, you're saying that it makes a difference whether I use a hub or a
 router?  I have both but I've noticed no difference between the two
 because I still can't send packets directly from one pc to another
 through the hub/switch via ftp.  Also, the netbeui thing was an
 experiment.  I prefer not using netbeui and Windows.
 
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That's why because you have a hub and a router.  You are using the
router to have direct access to the internet from both system as well as
probably to have a firewall also.  I am not sure why you have the hub
also.  But here we go, everything (I think) that's being sent from any
PC is being routed through the ISP and then getting routed back to the
other computer because the router is dynamically assigning the IP
addresses for each of the PC's, but it should be able route traffic
between the PC's without using the ISP so you need to find out how to do
that.  If you were using the hub only then you would lose the firewall
but everything that was going through the hub would be on the LAN.  You
would hook the ISP to the hub and the computers through the hub and then
select one computer to connect to internet and all others would talk to
the internet via proxy to that computer so that you don't have to pay
for extra IP addresses.  You will need a software firewall.  There are
some that are free.  You should at that point be able to see all the
computer on the LAN from each of the computers.  Now I am sure that you
can setup the router and hub together to stop routing through the ISP
but you need to look at your documentation for the router to figure out
how to do it.


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Re: Suport for cedilha

2003-08-02 Thread Tom Pollerman
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 07:59:51 -0700 (PDT)
Robert Mena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Bret,
 
 I am facing the same problem.  I can use all accent
 characters but even with KDe configured the  and _
 dows not work under Redhat 9.
 
 Unfortunately no one in this list or redhat seems to
 have experience with that or interest of solving it.
 
 Valeu
 
 - rt
 
 
 Hi,
 
   I've been an end user of Mandrake Linux for a number
 of years now, 
 but
 recently decided to give Red Hat 9 a try. I've had two
 big problems so
 far.
 
 
   The second problem has to do with keying in the c
 cedilha. I use a US
 keyboard with dead keys to key in accented letters and
 the c cedilha. 
 In
 the bash shell and in emacs, Red Hat is acting the
 same as Mandrake 
 when
 I type in the usual '-c combination -- an accented c.
 That is not what 
 I
 want but is acceptable, since I normally don't use
 accented letters in
 bash or emacs. However, in several other programs in
 which I do, Ximian
 Evolution and Lyx, in particular, the key combination
 gives completely
 useless  results. In Evolution, the combination
 produces an underscore
 while in Lyx it isn't even recognized.
 
I am using the us_intl keymap, as I did in
 Mandrake, and I think 
 I've
 tried every possible keyboard type that's within
 reason, but nothing
 works. So what's going on? If XFree86 isn't taking
 care of the 
 keyboard,
 what is?
 
 Check out:

   http://randell.myby.co.uk/jim/tips-compose.html

I used it to get ¾ and ° mapped. Also works with ç.


   Best,

   Tom
 


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C Source Code Formatter

2003-08-02 Thread Mike McMullen
Hi all,

I've googled looking for the above and got a bunch of hits.

I wanted to hear recommendations from anyone on the list 
who may be using a C source code formatter.

Open Source would be a plus.

Thanks,

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Re: C Source Code Formatter

2003-08-02 Thread Tao Chen
Is 'cb' (C beautify ) not good enough for you ?

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 I wanted to hear recommendations from anyone on the list 
 who may be using a C source code formatter.
 
 Open Source would be a plus.


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Re: Pre-make 'configure' program can't find mysql libraries?

2003-08-02 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
  All,
 
 snip
  I set out to recompile Nagios with MySQL support.  The first step is to
  run ./configure --with-mysql-xdata, but it's not finding the mysql
  libraries.
 
 Never used any of the software you mentioned, but did you check all the 
 configuration option? Usually there is a configure option to let you tell it 
 where to find the mysql lib. 
 If that doesn't work, then probably you get better luck asking at the software 
 (Nagio) mailing list, if such exists.
 
 HTH
 RDB

Well, I used the manual switches to tell the configure program where to 
find the MySQL libraries.  I still don't know it couldn't find them via 
the ld.so.conf file.  That bugs me, but I don't know much about the 
c programming side of linux yet. *sigh*

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Book recommendation request: Programming in C for Linux

2003-08-02 Thread Benjamin J. Weiss
All,

I haven't done any serious work in C for about ten years, and that was 
with Borland C products on MS-DOS platforms.  The programming 
I've done in Linux has basically been having some fun with perl and java.  
Well, I'd like to try some programming in C on my RedHat box.

I am very interested in learning the linux-specific stuff.  How do I set 
up the configure utility properly?  How do I set up the make stuff 
properly?  How do I use /etc/ld.so.conf?  I want to make sure that I learn 
all the correct habits for creating proper code in this new environment.

I still have my C reference books (assuming that the language hasn't 
changed significantly in the last 10 years) and am *not* interested in 
C++.  What I'm looking for is a good reference (in paper or online) that 
will help me through all of the proper steps.

Any recommendations?

Thanks!

Ben


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Re: C Source Code Formatter

2003-08-02 Thread Mike McMullen

From: Tao Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: C Source Code Formatter


 Is 'cb' (C beautify ) not good enough for you ?

I looked for it on my 7.3 system but didn't see it. 
I'll look for it.

Thanks,

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RE: Book recommendation request: Programming in C for Linux

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
Try going to www.gnu.org. And look for documentation on the gnu compiler
(gcc) and you should get way more than you want or need.

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 All,
 
 I haven't done any serious work in C for about ten years, and that was
 with Borland C products on MS-DOS platforms.  The programming
 I've done in Linux has basically been having some fun with perl and
 java.
 Well, I'd like to try some programming in C on my RedHat box.
 
 I am very interested in learning the linux-specific stuff.  How do I
 set
 up the configure utility properly?  How do I set up the make stuff
 properly?  How do I use /etc/ld.so.conf?  I want to make sure that I
 learn
 all the correct habits for creating proper code in this new
 environment.
 
 I still have my C reference books (assuming that the language hasn't
 changed significantly in the last 10 years) and am *not* interested in
 C++.  What I'm looking for is a good reference (in paper or online)
 that
 will help me through all of the proper steps.
 
 Any recommendations?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Ben
 
 
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RE: Book recommendation request: Programming in C for Linux

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
BTW the gcc compiler under linux works for java, C/C++, fortran and etc.
and is ansi c compatible and has fixed all of the problems with
Microsoft c and Borland c.  and make comes with the package and
debuggers and etc...

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 Subject: Book recommendation request: Programming in C for Linux
 
 All,
 
 I haven't done any serious work in C for about ten years, and that was
 with Borland C products on MS-DOS platforms.  The programming
 I've done in Linux has basically been having some fun with perl and
 java.
 Well, I'd like to try some programming in C on my RedHat box.
 
 I am very interested in learning the linux-specific stuff.  How do I
 set
 up the configure utility properly?  How do I set up the make stuff
 properly?  How do I use /etc/ld.so.conf?  I want to make sure that I
 learn
 all the correct habits for creating proper code in this new
 environment.
 
 I still have my C reference books (assuming that the language hasn't
 changed significantly in the last 10 years) and am *not* interested in
 C++.  What I'm looking for is a good reference (in paper or online)
 that
 will help me through all of the proper steps.
 
 Any recommendations?
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Lee Flier
I will soon have a similar situation... I have two computers at home.  
One is the one I'm using now which is currently dual boot RH9/Windows 
98.  It's connected to the Internet via cable modem (RCA) and has a 
static IP address.

What I would like to do is install RH9 on a second computer, have a 
private LAN with the two machines, so that files/printers can be 
shared.  I would also like them to share my Internet connection without 
having to obtain a second static IP address from my ISP.  I am not a 
network guru by any means, so I've been reading up on the subject, and 
it seems there are several different ways this could be done.  What I am 
thinking would be the simplest way is this:

1) Establish the LAN using private IP addresses and a hub.

2) Connect the hub to the cable modem.

3) Connect to the Internet directly from the Linux box, then configure 
the Windoze box to use the Linux box as a proxy server so I can surf the 
web from the Windoze box (all my email etc. will go to the Linux box).

Is this workable?  Is it the simplest way to do what I want or is there 
a better way?

Also, if I want to share my printer between the two machines, in you 
guys' experience is it better/simpler to hang the printer off the 
Windows box or the Linux box?

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: Book recommendation request: Programming in C for Linux

2003-08-02 Thread Mike McMullen

I recommend the following three from memory.

C Primer Plus
C - The Complete Reference
C Unleashed

All three have been very useful to me.

Mike

  To: Redhat List
  Subject: Book recommendation request: Programming in C for Linux
  
  All,
  
  I haven't done any serious work in C for about ten years, and that was
  with Borland C products on MS-DOS platforms.  The programming
  I've done in Linux has basically been having some fun with perl and
  java.
  Well, I'd like to try some programming in C on my RedHat box.
  
  I am very interested in learning the linux-specific stuff.  How do I
  set
  up the configure utility properly?  How do I set up the make stuff
  properly?  How do I use /etc/ld.so.conf?  I want to make sure that I
  learn
  all the correct habits for creating proper code in this new
  environment.
  
  I still have my C reference books (assuming that the language hasn't
  changed significantly in the last 10 years) and am *not* interested in
  C++.  What I'm looking for is a good reference (in paper or online)
  that
  will help me through all of the proper steps.
  
  Any recommendations?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Ben
  
  
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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
Yes, what you are wanting to do is doable, but remember that in general
you will not get support from Comcast for linux, so if you can't get by
on your own I would do the reverse until you are up to speed on how the
network stuff works. Also look into getting SAMBA to work and NFS etc.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Flier
 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 3:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Comcast  Routing
 
 I will soon have a similar situation... I have two computers at home.
 One is the one I'm using now which is currently dual boot RH9/Windows
 98.  It's connected to the Internet via cable modem (RCA) and has a
 static IP address.
 
 What I would like to do is install RH9 on a second computer, have a
 private LAN with the two machines, so that files/printers can be
 shared.  I would also like them to share my Internet connection
 without
 having to obtain a second static IP address from my ISP.  I am not a
 network guru by any means, so I've been reading up on the subject, and
 it seems there are several different ways this could be done.  What I
 am
 thinking would be the simplest way is this:
 
 1) Establish the LAN using private IP addresses and a hub.
 
 2) Connect the hub to the cable modem.
 
 3) Connect to the Internet directly from the Linux box, then configure
 the Windoze box to use the Linux box as a proxy server so I can surf
 the
 web from the Windoze box (all my email etc. will go to the Linux box).
 
 Is this workable?  Is it the simplest way to do what I want or is
 there
 a better way?
 
 Also, if I want to share my printer between the two machines, in you
 guys' experience is it better/simpler to hang the printer off the
 Windows box or the Linux box?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: C Source Code Formatter

2003-08-02 Thread Mike McMullen
Ok I give. Can someone tell me where to get cb. I remember it being on the
system in 7.0 but I can't track it down in 7.3.

Any help appreciated,

Mike

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Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: C Source Code Formatter


 
 From: Tao Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: Re: C Source Code Formatter
 
 
  Is 'cb' (C beautify ) not good enough for you ?
 
 I looked for it on my 7.3 system but didn't see it. 
 I'll look for it.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Lee Flier
Otto Haliburton wrote:

Yes, what you are wanting to do is doable, but remember that in general
you will not get support from Comcast for linux,
Yes, I'm aware of that. :-)  I already have it working fine with Linux 
on my dual boot machine, it's just making the two private IP's work with 
the one static/public IP that I'm a little hazy on.

so if you can't get by
on your own I would do the reverse until you are up to speed on how the
network stuff works.
How do you mean do the reverse?

Also look into getting SAMBA to work and NFS etc.

Yes, I think I'm getting a grip on all that, though I may have questions 
when I get into it!

Thanks,
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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
Do the windoze to get support from Comcast and setup proxy account with
linux and it doesn't matter where you get your email from or browse the
internet.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Flier
 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 4:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Comcast  Routing
 
 Otto Haliburton wrote:
 
 Yes, what you are wanting to do is doable, but remember that in
 general
 you will not get support from Comcast for linux,
 
 Yes, I'm aware of that. :-)  I already have it working fine with Linux
 on my dual boot machine, it's just making the two private IP's work
 with
 the one static/public IP that I'm a little hazy on.
 
  so if you can't get by
 on your own I would do the reverse until you are up to speed on how
 the
 network stuff works.
 
 How do you mean do the reverse?
 
  Also look into getting SAMBA to work and NFS etc.
 
 
 Yes, I think I'm getting a grip on all that, though I may have
 questions
 when I get into it!
 
 Thanks,
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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread amead
I hope this isn't being sent as HTML... if so, I'm sorry, there is no option in this 
web interface to turn it off.

You almost have it.  Two things:  First, some magic has to happen to allow both 
machines to share a single IP address.  Recent Windows calls it Connection Sharing, 
IIRC, and in Linux circles it's called NAT (Network address translation) or IP 
Masquerading.  So you will need some sort of device, either a computer or a network 
device plugged in between your LAN and the Internet to perform NAT.  The *simplest* 
solution is to but a cheap network device.  My Linksys device cost about $120, IIRC, 
and has a 4-port dual speed hub, acts as a wireless access point, runs a DHCP server, 
is a DHCP client, and has a pretty good web-based interface for configuration.

A linux box could easily do NAT and the DHCP stuff.  I did this usng RH for a long 
time, then replaced it with a LEAF (Linux router; leaf.sourceforge.net) box, then 
bought the Linksys box for the wireless access.  DHCP, in case you're not familiar, 
relieves you from having to manually assign static internal network addresses... not a 
big deal for two computers but a nice feature sometimes.  My laptop appreciates it, 
for example.

Why do you have a static IP?  If you expect any in-bound traffic (e.g., you want to 
host games like Unreal Tournament or you're running a web- or mail server) then it 
will be important to be able to expose internal ports externally.  The LEAF Linux 
distribution and the Linksys (and surely other dedicated devices/distros) have special 
ways to make this easy.  I would say that the Linksys device is much simpler to 
configure but far more limited than the LEAF distro.

Second, maybe this is just semantics, but you do not need a proxy server. (did you 
mean connection sharing?)  A proxy catches web requests and checks to see if it 
already has the page in its cache.  This will speed up web access in some situations 
enormously but I've never thought the it was worthwhile for one or two people.  

If the Windows is one of the old DOS flavors, forget it.  If it's a choice between a 
Windows NT flavor and Linux/Samba then it's more of a toss, up.  I'd see which has 
been driver support.  Support in RH 9 seems very good, click-click-click and I've set 
up printers that I could never make work properly using earlier versions.  Linux will 
be more reliable than WIndows, IMHO. 

-Alan 


-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Sat 8/2/2003 4:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Subject:Re: Comcast  Routing
I will soon have a similar situation... I have two computers at home.  
One is the one I'm using now which is currently dual boot RH9/Windows 
98.  It's connected to the Internet via cable modem (RCA) and has a 
static IP address.

What I would like to do is install RH9 on a second computer, have a 
private LAN with the two machines, so that files/printers can be 
shared.  I would also like them to share my Internet connection without 
having to obtain a second static IP address from my ISP.  I am not a 
network guru by any means, so I've been reading up on the subject, and 
it seems there are several different ways this could be done.  What I am 
thinking would be the simplest way is this:

1) Establish the LAN using private IP addresses and a hub.

2) Connect the hub to the cable modem.

3) Connect to the Internet directly from the Linux box, then configure 
the Windoze box to use the Linux box as a proxy server so I can surf the 
web from the Windoze box (all my email etc. will go to the Linux box).

Is this workable?  Is it the simplest way to do what I want or is there 
a better way?

Also, if I want to share my printer between the two machines, in you 
guys' experience is it better/simpler to hang the printer off the 
Windows box or the Linux box?

Thanks,
Lee


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[OT] Probably the most original 404 error...

2003-08-02 Thread Zoran's mailinglist account
... in the history of the Net... :-)

http://high5.net/mirrors/m0n0.ch/wall/cdrom-pb14r457.iso


P.S. Don't worry,  the download won't happen as the file doesn't exist...!

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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Sevatio
The way I've done it is to have your linux box contain two NICs.  Eth0 
(NIC#1) connects to your cable modem.  Eth1 (NIC#2) connects to your 
Windows Box's NIC via a cross-over cat5 cable.  Then activate connection 
sharing in your Linux box by assigning Eth0 to your internet IP address 
and Eth1 to your local IP address (192.168.0.1) which will be the 
gateway for your Windows box.  On your Windows box, set your ip address 
to 192.168.0.2 and your gateway address to 192.168.0.1 and netmask 
255.255.255.0.  For DNS, use the same settings as your Linux box.  Also, 
connection sharing in your linux box might end up running a DHCPd in 
which case, you could just set your Windows box to DHCP.  This path 
eliminates the need for a hub or switch.  If down the road you want to 
get more PCs then you'll need that hub/switch.

Lee Flier wrote:
I will soon have a similar situation... I have two computers at home.  
One is the one I'm using now which is currently dual boot RH9/Windows 
98.  It's connected to the Internet via cable modem (RCA) and has a 
static IP address.

What I would like to do is install RH9 on a second computer, have a 
private LAN with the two machines, so that files/printers can be 
shared.  I would also like them to share my Internet connection without 
having to obtain a second static IP address from my ISP.  I am not a 
network guru by any means, so I've been reading up on the subject, and 
it seems there are several different ways this could be done.  What I am 
thinking would be the simplest way is this:

1) Establish the LAN using private IP addresses and a hub.

2) Connect the hub to the cable modem.

3) Connect to the Internet directly from the Linux box, then configure 
the Windoze box to use the Linux box as a proxy server so I can surf the 
web from the Windoze box (all my email etc. will go to the Linux box).

Is this workable?  Is it the simplest way to do what I want or is there 
a better way?

Also, if I want to share my printer between the two machines, in you 
guys' experience is it better/simpler to hang the printer off the 
Windows box or the Linux box?

Thanks,
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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Lee Flier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Second, maybe this is just semantics, but you do not need a proxy server. (did you mean connection sharing?)  A proxy catches web requests and checks to see if it already has the page in its cache.  This will speed up web access in some situations enormously but I've never thought the it was worthwhile for one or two people. 

Maybe I'm delusional, but I thought setting up a proxy server (like 
squid) and allowing access to my Windoze box would allow me to surf the 
web from the Windoze box without having to set up IP masquerading.  
Assuming I have the 2 machines plugged into a hub (I do already have a 
hub) and the uplink of the hub goes to the cable modem, and the 2 
machines are via private IP LAN, I could configure my browser to 
retrieve web pages from the proxy server (the RH box), which would go 
out and get the web page off the Internet and send it to the Windoze 
browser.  No?

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RE: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Otto Haliburton
I believe that is correct, I also believe that connection sharing is a
fancy way of using a proxy.  I could be wrong but I don't think so.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Flier
 Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Comcast  Routing
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Second, maybe this is just semantics, but you do not need a proxy
 server. (did you mean connection sharing?)  A proxy catches web
 requests and checks to see if it already has the page in its cache.
 This will speed up web access in some situations enormously but I've
 never thought the it was worthwhile for one or two people.
 
 Maybe I'm delusional, but I thought setting up a proxy server (like
 squid) and allowing access to my Windoze box would allow me to surf
 the
 web from the Windoze box without having to set up IP masquerading.
 Assuming I have the 2 machines plugged into a hub (I do already have a
 hub) and the uplink of the hub goes to the cable modem, and the 2
 machines are via private IP LAN, I could configure my browser to
 retrieve web pages from the proxy server (the RH box), which would go
 out and get the web page off the Internet and send it to the Windoze
 browser.  No?
 
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Re: C Source Code Formatter

2003-08-02 Thread Tao Chen

 Ok I give. Can someone tell me where to get cb. I remember it being on
the
 system in 7.0 but I can't track it down in 7.3.

Turns out 'cb' is not available on Redhat ( I was working on AIX, sorry.)
With a google search, you'll see two popular programs: 'bcpp' and 'indent'

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/C-C++Beautifier-HOWTO/
http://dickey.his.com/bcpp/bcpp.html


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Re: C Source Code Formatter

2003-08-02 Thread Mike McMullen
Thanks! -Mike


  Ok I give. Can someone tell me where to get cb. I remember it being on
 the
  system in 7.0 but I can't track it down in 7.3.

 Turns out 'cb' is not available on Redhat ( I was working on AIX, sorry.)
 With a google search, you'll see two popular programs: 'bcpp' and 'indent'





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basic bash shell ?

2003-08-02 Thread Bob Hartung
Hi,
  I am trying to learn a little more about the bash shell so I can figure 
out some of the script files that I see all the time.  Is there a way to 
run bash scripts or a single line of a script in an interactive mode from 
the command line and echo the output back to the shell so I can work along 
with some of the commands?

  Hope this is not to dumb of a question to elicit a meaningful response.

TIA

Bob

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Re: basic bash shell ?

2003-08-02 Thread Rus Foster

 Hi,
I am trying to learn a little more about the bash shell so I can figure
 out some of the script files that I see all the time.  Is there a way to
 run bash scripts or a single line of a script in an interactive mode from
 the command line and echo the output back to the shell so I can work along
 with some of the commands?


Try changing the top line to

#!/bin/bash -x

This puts script into debug mode

Rgds

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Re: Comcast Routing

2003-08-02 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 04:59:56PM -0400, Lee Flier wrote:
 Otto Haliburton wrote:
 
 Yes, what you are wanting to do is doable, but remember that in general
 you will not get support from Comcast for linux,
 
 Yes, I'm aware of that. :-)  I already have it working fine with Linux 
 on my dual boot machine, it's just making the two private IP's work with 
 the one static/public IP that I'm a little hazy on.

What I do is connect a Linksys router/firewall to the cable modem.  In
my case, it's got the dynamic address, but you can configure yours with
the static IP.  Then the systems connected to the firewall connect using
a private IP address (192.168.0.x) and have their default gateway set to
the router (which has two addresses - one facing in and one facing out - 
the one you want to point to is the internal one).  Once you've solved
the outgoing connections, just turn on port forwarding for the inbound
connections for things like http or smtp.

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Voice chat IM Server

2003-08-02 Thread Alex
Does anybody know if Jabber supports voice chat and if so, where can I get
more info about this. I tried www.jabber.com adn jabberstudio but I could
not find anything about this.
Also maybe you can recomend me some other IM server with voice chat support
if Jabber lacks this.

Thanks for info!

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Re: basic bash shell ?

2003-08-02 Thread Bob Hartung
Rus,
  Thanks!
Bob

Rus Foster wrote:
Hi,
  I am trying to learn a little more about the bash shell so I can figure
out some of the script files that I see all the time.  Is there a way to
run bash scripts or a single line of a script in an interactive mode from
the command line and echo the output back to the shell so I can work along
with some of the commands?


Try changing the top line to

#!/bin/bash -x

This puts script into debug mode

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Re: [OT] Probably the most original 404 error...

2003-08-02 Thread Lorenzo Prince
Zoran's mailinglist account staggered into view and mumbled:
 http://high5.net/mirrors/m0n0.ch/wall/cdrom-pb14r457.iso

Hmm.  The file exists now.  I had to edit the URL in order to see this very original 
error message.  I do hope this 
server gets some professional help before it commits suicide or something.  LOL!

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Re: [OT] Probably the most original 404 error...

2003-08-02 Thread Bret Hughes
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 23:50, Lorenzo Prince wrote:
 Zoran's mailinglist account staggered into view and mumbled:
  http://high5.net/mirrors/m0n0.ch/wall/cdrom-pb14r457.iso
 
 Hmm.  The file exists now.  I had to edit the URL in order to see this very original 
 error message.  I do hope this 
 server gets some professional help before it commits suicide or something.  LOL!
 


I thought it was pretty good too.  The things a poor server has to do to
override the IE default 404 message probably adds to the depression :-)

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Where to install codecs

2003-08-02 Thread Mike Vanecek
MPlayer works, but sometimes complains that wmvdmod.dll is not available. I
installed the following packages:

aalib-1.4rc5-fr2.i386.rpm
alsa-lib-0.9.4-fr1.i386.rpm
faad2-1.1-fr2.20030409.i386.rpm
flac-1.1.0-fr3.i386.rpm
lame-3.93.1-fr2.i386.rpm
libdv-0.99-fr2.i386.rpm
libdvdcss-1.2.7-fr1.i386.rpm
libdvdread-0.9.4-fr3.i386.rpm
libfame-0.9.0-fr2.i386.rpm
libpostproc-0.90-fr2.i386.rpm
lirc-0.6.6-fr1.i386.rpm
lzo-1.08-fr2.i386.rpm
mplayer-0.90-fr2.i386.rpm
mplayer-fonts-1.0-fr1.noarch.rpm
mplayer-skins-1.3-fr1.noarch.rpm
xine-lib-1.0.0-fr0.beta12.1.i386.rpm
xine-lib-devel-1.0.0-fr0.beta12.1.i386.rpm
xvidcore-0.9.1-fr2.i386.rpm

I then downloaded the codecs tar (extralite.tar.bz2). It contains

drv3.so.6.0  sipr.so.6.0  vid_3ivX.xa  ddnt.so.6.0  ir32_32.dll  
wma9dmod.dll  wmv9dmod.dll   QuickTimeEssentials.qtx
drv4.so.6.0  tokf.so.6.0  atrc.so.6.0  dnet.so.6.0  ir41_32.dll  
wmadmod.dll   wmvdmod.dllQuickTimeInternetExtras.qtx
dspr.so.6.0  tokr.so.6.0  cook.so.6.0  drv2.so.6.0  ir50_32.dll  
wmspdmod.dll  QuickTime.qts  qtmlClient.dll

However, it does not give me instructions on where to install them. 

Would someone please tell me how to install the codecs.




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