Re: Problem with Sound
I've had the same problem. I found that if I log out, and then back in, the sound will work on the second login. RIc On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 06:03:19PM +0530, Rajeev Asthana wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed ver 8.0 recently. > > Everything seems to working fine except the Sound. > > Sound is not coming. Linux recognizes the sound card as Intel 810 AC'97 but > sound is not coming. > > I tried running 'aumix' but it gives an error: 'Error opening aumix' > > Pl. tell me what to do. > > Regards, > Rajeev. > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Download Redhat 9 right now
With respect for those who have paid for their Redhat network subscription, and the related early access: I will refrain from using such boot-leg sites. I would encourage others to do the same. Ric On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:36:36PM +, Unknown User wrote: > Download RedHat 9 right now with Bittorrent. > > Quick Guide: > http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/rh9.html > > Detailed Info: > http://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/31/1256236.shtml?tid=0 > > _ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [Slightly OT] XFS versus EXT3
To put it briefly: If it don't need breakin', don't fix it. There's no compelling reason to go to XFS, or JFS, or Reiserfs. If ext3 works for you, use it. I've found problems with each of the other fs types, on "some" machines. ext3 is stable. JMHO-YMMV Ric On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 09:34:00AM -0500, Chinmay Nadkarni wrote: > General purpose use really, web surfing, email, and some programming > occasionally. > > Let me put it this way ... is there any compelling reason (such as a > large performance differential) to choose xfs over ext3, given that I > have been using ext3 trouble-free for the last year and a half. > > Thanks. > - Chinmay. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Depends what you are doing, for general purpose use of the laptop like > >an end-user sort of thing, ext3 should be good enough. > > > >On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 11:40, Chinmay Nadkarni wrote: > > > > > >>I wanted to get some opinions on XFS versus ext3. I am currently running > >>ext3 (RH 7.2), but I was wondering whether it might make sense to run > >>xfs on a laptop I am going to be installing RH 8.0 on, since it seems to > >>have better performane characteristics. Any opinions, gotchas, ... > >> > >>Thanks in advance. > >>- Chinmay. > >> > >> > > -- > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. > Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://shopnow.netscape.com/ > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux vs Windows
I think we should all keep this thread alive. It offers proof of both the intelect, and maturity of an "avit wondows user" ;) It also lends some credibility to the theory that prolonged windows use causes brain damage. Ric On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:22:21PM -0600, John Nichel wrote: > Maybe one of the nice admins will rid us of this troll. > > brent nicholls wrote: > >Ovi you are doing somthing wrong with windows!! I installed windows and > >i only had to reboot once, and you dont have to reboot after changing > >your screen rez you newb you set it up so it applys the settings with > >out rebooting, if you dont like windows than you should go with the open > >source joke called linux. I am a advit windows user and will be for the > >rest of my life. No matter what you say you put a sound, network card, > >and video card in xp turn on your xp box and it finds all the drivers > >for you and you dont need to reboot, (found new hardwared, ten seconds > >go by, your new hardware is ready to use) now where did you reboot in > >that case goof. > > > >The only reason why you knock windows is because it is the domoninat > >operating system and you just cant afford it. So take your no job ass > >and go and download Linux and go on a fake windows box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows > >>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:38:42 -0500 (EST) > >> > >>Ever try installing Windows XP on a computer that is not bottable from > >>CD? > >> > >>You need no less than 6 floppies. AND, Windows doesn't check to see if > >>your system meets minimum specs until the last floppy. AND, I couldn't > >>find the program to make the floppies anywhere on the CD. I had to go > >>out > >>to MS's web site to get it... No fun. > >> > >>> On Wednesday 26 March 2003 02:03 pm, Cliff Wells wrote: > >>> > >>> I am going to agree with you to disagree with any argument that Windows > >>> is easier to install... > >>> > >>> My last experience installing Windows is just a frustrating attempt. > >>Try > >>> to count how many times a Win machine has to reboot after install > >>> before you can use it... > >>> "found a new hardware.. video card" -- reboot after installing driver > >>> before win can use it > >>> "found a new hardware.. sound card" -- reboot > >>> "found a new hardware.. plug and play monitor" -- reboot > >>> "found a new hardware.. network card" -- reboot > >>> > >>> and then.. > >>> "change display resolution" -- reboot > >>> "install a program" -- reboot > >>> > >>> WTH?? > >>> ... > >>> > >>> and try install linux. Reboot *once* after install and that's it. > >>> > >>> IE has better support for CSS? Where do you hear that from??? Mozilla > >>> support for *standard* HTML and CSS is far better than IE, no question > >>> about that. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>redhat-list mailing list > >>unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > > >_ > >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linux vs Windows
ROTFL - Till I wet myself! This one is probably one of the best troll-bait posts I've seen in a very long time! Good one! I needed the laugh. Thanks! Ric Unix Systems Administration On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:42:08AM -0500, brent nicholls wrote: > Ovi you are doing somthing wrong with windows!! I installed windows and i > only had to reboot once, and you dont have to reboot after changing your > screen rez you newb you set it up so it applys the settings with out > rebooting, if you dont like windows than you should go with the open source > joke called linux. I am a advit windows user and will be for the rest of my > life. No matter what you say you put a sound, network card, and video card > in xp turn on your xp box and it finds all the drivers for you and you dont > need to reboot, (found new hardwared, ten seconds go by, your new hardware > is ready to use) now where did you reboot in that case goof. > > The only reason why you knock windows is because it is the domoninat > operating system and you just cant afford it. So take your no job ass and > go and download Linux and go on a fake windows box... > > > > > > > >From: Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows > >Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:38:42 -0500 (EST) > > > >Ever try installing Windows XP on a computer that is not bottable from CD? > > > >You need no less than 6 floppies. AND, Windows doesn't check to see if > >your system meets minimum specs until the last floppy. AND, I couldn't > >find the program to make the floppies anywhere on the CD. I had to go out > >to MS's web site to get it... No fun. > > > >> On Wednesday 26 March 2003 02:03 pm, Cliff Wells wrote: > >> > >> I am going to agree with you to disagree with any argument that Windows > >> is easier to install... > >> > >> My last experience installing Windows is just a frustrating attempt. Try > >> to count how many times a Win machine has to reboot after install > >> before you can use it... > >> "found a new hardware.. video card" -- reboot after installing driver > >> before win can use it > >> "found a new hardware.. sound card" -- reboot > >> "found a new hardware.. plug and play monitor" -- reboot > >> "found a new hardware.. network card" -- reboot > >> > >> and then.. > >> "change display resolution" -- reboot > >> "install a program" -- reboot > >> > >> WTH?? > >> ... > >> > >> and try install linux. Reboot *once* after install and that's it. > >> > >> IE has better support for CSS? Where do you hear that from??? Mozilla > >> support for *standard* HTML and CSS is far better than IE, no question > >> about that. > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >redhat-list mailing list > >unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > _ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Using a microphone
What about ohphone? It's included on the CDs. Ric On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 01:43:48PM -0500, Brian Ashe wrote: > Hello fred, > > Wednesday, March 26, 2003, 1:00:12 PM, you textually orated: > > fp> Hi all. Does anyone know of an application that can be > fp> used to communicate with someone across the Internet > fp> using a microphone? > > fp> Instead of making a long-distance call, I'd like to > fp> talk to them over the Internet using a microphone > fp> attached to my PC. > > I have used this for a long time now. It is nice because it has a *nix and a > Win version. > > It's called Speak Freely. > Unix Version > http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/unix/ > > Win Version > http://www.speakfreely.org/ > > Have fun, > -- > _ > Brian Ashe CTO > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dee-Web Software Services, LLC. > http://www.dee-web.com/ > - > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: [Fwd: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early]
It has to be a typo. Ric On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 01:48:24PM -0600, John Nichel wrote: > Red Hat 9 What happened to 8.1? > > Original Message > Subject: Red Hat Linux 9 | Get the latest Linux early > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:18:21 - > From: "Red Hat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Red Hat" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Dear John: > > You may know that Red Hat Network is the best way to keep your > systems running the latest errata and always up to date. What you > might not know is that Red Hat Network passed the one million users > mark earlier this year. We've listened to valuable feedback and have > added two items of interest to keep those users happy - early release > of Red Hat Linux 9 ISOs and improved technical support. > > Beginning March 31, 2003, paid subscribers to Red Hat Network will > have access to Red Hat Linux 9 ISOs - a full week before retail store > and Red Hat FTP availability. Also, Red Hat Network subscribers will > receive dedicated Red Hat Network Technical Support. > > Learn more about the benefits of being a Red Hat Network Subscriber: > > To purchase a Red Hat Network subscription: > Thanks again for using Red Hat Linux. We appreciate all feedback > from our users and hope you enjoy Red Hat Linux 9. > > Sincerely, > > Red Hat > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE looking for a job
Yeah, I hear that. I try to make it clear that I'm a contractor, and relocating just goes with the territory, "AND" point out that I'm willing to relocate at my own expense. It makes a difference to some employers. Some, and just cheap, and don't want to pay expensive relocation expenses. If you have a family, and a home, that can add up. Short side is: When you're looking for work, it's the employers market right now. There are LOTS of IT people out of work, and only so many jobs to go around. So far, I've never had to resort to using the phrase "Would you like fries with that?" in the course of my work day. But when you need to feed the family, don't get too picky when the market is like it is now. Ric On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:15:47PM -0600, John Nichel wrote: > Yeah, I saw alot of those too when I was out of work. When I reached > the 6 month stage of no job, I added this to the top of my resume... > > "Willing to relocate at own expense" > > I had a job two months later. > > Ric Tibbetts wrote: > >Unfortunately, relocating isn't even always an option. > >I'm seeing more, and more statements like the following: > > > >--- > >Principals only. Candidates OUTSIDE OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL NOT BE > >CONSIDERED IN THIS SEARCH. > > > >[Company name removed] is an Equal Opportunity Employer. > >--- > > > >Maybe they need to rephrase that to: > > > >[Company name removed] is an (not so) Equal Opportunity Employer. > > > >One company took this a step further with: > > > >-- > >No sponsorship or subcontracting available for this position. A > >background check and drug screen are conditions of employment. LOCAL > >CANDIDATES ONLY. PLEASE DO NOT APPLY IF YOU ARE NOT LOCAL, NO MATTER IF > >YOU ARE NEEDING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE OR NOT. > >-- > > > >Fortunately, I'm working (right now). But I know a number of people who > >are not. Part of the problem with relocating is that local employers > >want to suppopr the local population. In the larger cities, and tech > >centers, there are large numbers of I.T. personel sitting idle. They're > >trying to hire those first. It's "right", but it makes it hard for the > >rest to find work. > > > >As a career contractor, I am painfully aware of the "normal" cycles of > >the contracting industry. But this "lul" is anything BUT normal. > > > >Ric > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:19:09PM -0600, John Nichel wrote: > > > >>Good luck. Unlike 2+ years ago, when the head-hunters were call us at > >>work, the tech industry has taken a big hit. I just recently got > >>another job after 8 months of unemployment. If you're in the States, > >>you'll better your chances if you are willing to relocate to anywhere > >>that will offer you a job. > >> > >>Sergey Motorny wrote: > >> > >>>Hello Everyone, > >>> > >>>I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration and > >>>about to complete Master's in Computer Information Systems. I am fluent > >>>in English/Russian, have a year of IT experience, and also hold Network+ > >>>and A+ certifications. I have been looking for a Linux job for a few > >>>months, but have not received a single job interview invitation. Any > >>>suggestions from the Linux community itself? I will soon be ready to > >>>work for food. :0) > >>> > >>>Looking forward to your replies, > >>>Sergey > >>>http://www.sergey.us > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>redhat-list mailing list > >>unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE looking for a job
Unfortunately, relocating isn't even always an option. I'm seeing more, and more statements like the following: --- Principals only. Candidates OUTSIDE OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN THIS SEARCH. [Company name removed] is an Equal Opportunity Employer. --- Maybe they need to rephrase that to: [Company name removed] is an (not so) Equal Opportunity Employer. One company took this a step further with: -- No sponsorship or subcontracting available for this position. A background check and drug screen are conditions of employment. LOCAL CANDIDATES ONLY. PLEASE DO NOT APPLY IF YOU ARE NOT LOCAL, NO MATTER IF YOU ARE NEEDING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE OR NOT. -- Fortunately, I'm working (right now). But I know a number of people who are not. Part of the problem with relocating is that local employers want to suppopr the local population. In the larger cities, and tech centers, there are large numbers of I.T. personel sitting idle. They're trying to hire those first. It's "right", but it makes it hard for the rest to find work. As a career contractor, I am painfully aware of the "normal" cycles of the contracting industry. But this "lul" is anything BUT normal. Ric On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:19:09PM -0600, John Nichel wrote: > Good luck. Unlike 2+ years ago, when the head-hunters were call us at > work, the tech industry has taken a big hit. I just recently got > another job after 8 months of unemployment. If you're in the States, > you'll better your chances if you are willing to relocate to anywhere > that will offer you a job. > > Sergey Motorny wrote: > >Hello Everyone, > > > >I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration and > >about to complete Master's in Computer Information Systems. I am fluent > >in English/Russian, have a year of IT experience, and also hold Network+ > >and A+ certifications. I have been looking for a Linux job for a few > >months, but have not received a single job interview invitation. Any > >suggestions from the Linux community itself? I will soon be ready to > >work for food. :0) > > > >Looking forward to your replies, > >Sergey > >http://www.sergey.us > > > > > > > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RHCE looking for a job
*THAT* has been true since the begining of time. There's nothing more valuable that a healthy grapevine, and great references. On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 07:05:39AM -0800, Richard Crawford wrote: > Bad as it may sound, remember that when hunting for a job it's not > necessarily *what* you know that counts, but *who* you know. My wife just > got a job as a rather well-paid technical writer; the man who hired her is > the husband of our pastor at church, who says he may also be able to swing > at least an interview for me for a low-level sysadmin position or web > developer. My wife he hired with a five minute phone interview. > > > And it's not just the I.T. industry. I have friends in other industries > > that are suffering just as much. > > It's cyclic. It "will" turn around again, it's just a matter of time. > > > > Sad but true. > > > > Ric > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 08:02:59AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> > >> What a terrible thing that there are young people, eager to work, with > >> great qualifications who have "punched all the right buttons", yet > >> can't even get an interview! > >> > >> Don't take it personally, Sergey. I know it feels like it is > >> personal, but it's not. The world economy is in really bad shape. > >> You've proven that you'll work hard and do what has to be done. That > >> effort shows great initiative and drive. If I had a job to offer > >> here, I'd get in touch with you. But I'm sure you've heard the > >> refrain: no money, no money, no money. Not for hardware or personnel. > >> > >> Hang in there. It's bound to turn around sometime in our lifetimes... > >> > >> (P.S. Anyone that's been in this business for any length of time at > >> all has had to "work for food" at one time or another. You're just > >> paying your dues early.) > >> > >> Rebecca R. King > >> Lead System Administrator > >> Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality > >> State of Mississippi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Ritesh Raj Sarraf > >> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> ome.net> > >> cc: > >> > >> Sent by: Subject: Re: RHCE > >> looking for a job > >> redhat-list-admin > >> > >> @redhat.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 03/20/2003 01:21 > >> > >> PM > >> > >> Please respond > >> to > >> > >> redhat-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> it's very sorry to know.. but the reason behind it is that GNU/Linux > >> requires > >> knowledge as its primary requisite, not certification.. > >> > >> ritesh > >> Quoting Sergey Motorny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> > Hello Everyone, > >> > > >> > I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration > >> and about to complete Master's in Computer Information Systems. I am > >> fluent in English/Russian, have a year of IT experience, and also > >> hold Network+ and A+ certifications. I have been looking for a Linux > >> job for a few months, but have not received a single job interview > >> invitation. Any suggestions from the Linux community itself? I will > >> soon be ready to work for food. :0) > >> > > >> > Looking forward to your replies, > >> > Sergey > >> > http://www.sergey.us > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > redhat-list mailing list > >> > unsubscribe > >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Ritesh R. Sarraf > >> "To learn, you've got to get your hands dirty." > >> > >> --------- > >> This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > >> > >> > >> > >
Re: RHCE looking for a job
And it's not just the I.T. industry. I have friends in other industries that are suffering just as much. It's cyclic. It "will" turn around again, it's just a matter of time. Sad but true. Ric On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 08:02:59AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What a terrible thing that there are young people, eager to work, with > great qualifications who have "punched all the right buttons", yet can't > even get an interview! > > Don't take it personally, Sergey. I know it feels like it is personal, but > it's not. The world economy is in really bad shape. You've proven that > you'll work hard and do what has to be done. That effort shows great > initiative and drive. If I had a job to offer here, I'd get in touch with > you. But I'm sure you've heard the refrain: no money, no money, no money. > Not for hardware or personnel. > > Hang in there. It's bound to turn around sometime in our lifetimes... > > (P.S. Anyone that's been in this business for any length of time at all > has had to "work for food" at one time or another. You're just paying your > dues early.) > > Rebecca R. King > Lead System Administrator > Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality > State of Mississippi > > > > > > > Ritesh Raj Sarraf > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ome.net> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: RHCE looking for a job > > redhat-list-admin > > @redhat.com > > > > > > 03/20/2003 01:21 > > PM > > Please respond to > > redhat-list > > > > > > > > > > it's very sorry to know.. but the reason behind it is that GNU/Linux > requires > knowledge as its primary requisite, not certification.. > > ritesh > Quoting Sergey Motorny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am a 22-year-old RHCE with Bachelor's in Business Administration and > > about to complete Master's in Computer Information Systems. I am fluent > > in English/Russian, have a year of IT experience, and also hold Network+ > > and A+ certifications. I have been looking for a Linux job for a few > > months, but have not received a single job interview invitation. Any > > suggestions from the Linux community itself? I will soon be ready to > > work for food. :0) > > > > Looking forward to your replies, > > Sergey > > http://www.sergey.us > > > > > > > > -- > > redhat-list mailing list > > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > -- > Ritesh R. Sarraf > "To learn, you've got to get your hands dirty." > > - > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > > > -- >
Re: default group
See "man useradd" It will answer all those questions. Ric On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:56:33AM -0500, Jianping Zhu wrote: > Thanks. > One more question about initial group is that: > Now When i add a user u1, u1's initial group will be users. how can i > let u1's inital group be u1 when i create account for u1? > > Thanks > > > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, MKlinke wrote: > > > See "man usermod" . It should do what you're asking. > > > > Regards, Mike Klinke > > > > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 13:55, Jianping Zhu wrote: > > > I have redhat 7.3, I have a user u1 with default group g1, ( when u1 > > > create any file, it belongs to g1) how can i change u1' default group > > > to g2? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Jianping Zhu > > > Department of Computer Science > > > Univerity of Georgia > > > Athens, GA 30602 > > > Tel 706 5423900 > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > redhat-list mailing list > > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > Jianping Zhu > Department of Computer Science > Univerity of Georgia > Athens, GA 30602 > Tel 706 5423900 > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh
So to ask a question: Is there a hyphen in "anal-retentive" Ric On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:54:17AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 11:15, Jack Byers wrote: > > Jack Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hal Burgiss responded to another thread: > > > > >Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when > > >you consider vim can be used as the editor. > > > > > > I am reasonably sure most members of this list, > > and almost surely Hal himself, > > really know that "light year" is a technical term: > > > > specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ; > > and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_ > > which is the sense it was used in the above quote. > > > > Sadly, this kind of thing seems to have entered the popular jargon of the > > day. > > I even ran across some technical type article in the NYtimes a year or so > > ago > > that misused the term in just the same way. > > > > It's no worse than saying "miles ahead of" but that is badjunk use too. > > > > call me an old f**t if you must, but I couldn't help responding to this > > > > > I feel for you. I'm the same way with "new and improved". Sorry if it is > improved, it can not be new. If it is new, there was nothing to improve. > It is either now OR improved, not both. > > Ok, I'll go back to topical-ness now. ;) > > -- > Bill Anderson > RHCE #807302597505773 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
samba error
All; My appologies if this is off topic. But this list is the best resource I could think of. I have a samba server running. But it's mis-behaving. When viewed from an explorer session, the hostname shows up, but none of the exported fielsystems. Interestingly, I cloned another box off of that one, and it works great. Now, I have many, many instances of the following error showing up in the samba logs: [2003/02/27 08:22:11, 0] smbd/password.c:domain_client_validate(1596) domain_client_validate: Domain password server not available. I've done nothing different between the two servers. They are infact clones of each other. What am I missing on this one? Thank you! -- Ric Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Terrible 'cp' loop
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:28:00PM -0500, Robert Adkins II wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > > In the event that this happens in the future, does anyone know > of a method that will kill a process when "kill" fails? > kill -9 I've only very rarely seen that fail. Ric Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Recommended GUI (KDE/GNOME)
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:41:48AM -0800, Richard Sumilang wrote: > All Gurus, > > I'm new to actually developing on Linux operating systems, moving from > Winblows to Red Hat. I have KDE and GNOME installed, I simply just use > MySQL, PHP, Apache, Zend Studio, and Mozilla. What GUI what you > recommend for me to use and why? KDE or GNOME? > Actually, anymore, there is little difference (from the user standpoint) between them. They're both very good. KDE is a bit older, and a more mature product. Gnome has some fresh(er) ideas, but is still lacking in some features. It's really a matter of personal choice. Try them both. Spend a week with each. At the end that, one of them will "feel" better to you. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is anyone having wire sound problems with RH8
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:53:16AM -0800, Dominic Iadicicco wrote: > That system you have at home. Is that a redhat system? > Uh, yeah. RH 8.0 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is anyone having wire sound problems with RH8
I have a system at home, that doesn't play the KDE startup music the first time you log in after a reboot. But if you log back out, and right back in, it's fine. I've asked around, but got no replies. Ric On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:30:01AM -0800, Dominic Iadicicco wrote: > I am having all kinds of wire(bugy) problems with the > redhat sound system. It won't play the wav when Gnome > starts up. It will play the logoff wav but not the > logon wav. I am having other problems with the sound > as well but I figure if I could solve this one, it > would solve the rest.. > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is anyone seeing my post to mailing list?
Yup. Ric On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:06:24AM -0800, Dominic Iadicicco wrote: > I just testing to see if anyone can see my post. > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Please ignore
Okay, consider it ignored. Ric On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:54:27PM -0600, Robert Canary wrote: > test > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Weird Crash (revisited - again)
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:00:27PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:13, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > service apmd stop > > chkconfig apmd stop > > > > Mikkel > > I don't think I've ever caught a mistake from you before, Mikkel, but > the commands should be: > > # service apmd stop > # chkconfig apmd off > ^^^ Ahem: To stop it, and remove it from all runlevels: #> service apmd stop #> chkconfig --del apmd I believe that "chkconfig apmd stop (or off)" would set up a kill entry in the runlevels. "--del" will remove it entirely. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is someone trying to get me off the list?
Just to put my .02 into this. While I applaud the originator of the bot for his good intentions, I am bothered that a "fellow list recipient" has put in such a tool. As was just demonstrated, a single "mistake" by the person, has the ability to impact the entire list. I really believe that this kind of thing belongs int eh camp of the list owner, not a list user. I personally do not appreciate getting teh notification I did the other day because of another member on the list. I honestly think it should be disabled, until the person has the direct consent of the list owner to run such a bot. There are clear, and simple instructions printed at the bottom of every e-Mail that goes through this list. The user also gets instructions on how to unsubscribe when they first sign up. While I agree that it's frustrating that there are so many totaly clueless people out there, it's a matter for the list owners to deal with. I don't think that list members should be running such "bots". JMHO. But it's taking "help" a little to far. Thank you for listening Ric On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 12:50:50PM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 04:54:25PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Ordinary SPAM/UCE looks exactly like that. Please put in your real > > name and explain a bit more about the bot. Consider setting the > > reply-to header to point to the redhat-list-request address. > Thats an excellent suggestion, thank you. > > > D'oh. I'm not even subscribed to redhat-install-list. If you planned > > We know. you are subbed to the RedHat List. The D'oh isn't necessary. > > > to run that bot on psyche-list and valhalla-list as well, would you > > add URLs for all those lists? How about making the bot send out > > specific instructions for a specific list? > > Actually that is in the works and was planned from the beginning of > the expansion to other RedHat Lists. Its another good idea. > > > Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining that. Another point where your > > concept didn't work, unfortunately. Your bot sent a _private_ mail > > which either makes it into my inbox or gets filtered out into trash, > > but your update announcements and explanations go to the list and > > are buried somewhere beneath hundreds of messages. How am I supposed > > to know all this? I didn't subscribe to any of your services. It is > > The concept works fine and has for over a year. > You're missing the point. You were never supposed to receive the email > at all. An error I made in a procmail script affected this email function > causing everyone who posted to the RH list to get emailed. It looks like > a total of 88 people got hit. > > > either. At least you could have excused in a _personal_ mail to > > those 80 subscribers. THAT would have been an appropriate move. > > I apologized publicly because there discussion about it on the list. > This way everyone who was affected, which included everyone on the list > at that point, would receive the apology and the explanation. > > I hoped that would clear up the situation quickly. > > > And to make it clear, the idea is good, but the message looks like > > SPAM/UCE and the weak explanation is a hell of confusion for someone > That message has been in place and working well for over a year in other > lists and for over 3 weeks in this list (up till yesterday anyway... ). > > In fact it is in place right now. > > > who did just reply to a message with unsubscribe in the subject > > line. Shouldn't be too hard to make it more personal. Also, it > > doesn't explain unsubscription via e-mail at all. > > Trust me - we've tried and the people who need this level of help > can't handle doing it by email. They need immediate visual feedback. > (Trust you, Jeff? You just screwed up. Why should we trust you ? > hmmm - you have a point ... :-) ) > > > -- > Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an > acceptance of the offer at http://users.rcn.com/jkinz/policy.html. > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Changing the startup graphic
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 06:12:27AM -0800, Mingle, Michael wrote: > I know that both GRUB and LILO have startup images associated with them. I > assume there is a way to use a custom image for each of these but I am > having problems finding information on how to create the proper graphic > files. Can anyone give me information on how to create a startup graphic > and how to enable LILO & GRUB to use it? > > Thanks, > Michael > I tripped over this site. It has some good tips on Grub images. http://gentoo.tkdack.com/node.php?title=Grub%20Splash%20Screens Enjoy Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Is someone trying to get me off the list?
If it makes you feel any better, I got one a little while ago too. Ric Edward Dekkers wrote: I just received this. I never asked to be unsubscribed. It's here with full headers. Can any mail gurus check it and let me know what's going on? Regards, Ed. --- Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from localhost (IDENT:fr/oAPBd9D1jIRu3PEtp8GZ/Hq/eDnHx@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1L00I200680 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:00:20 +0800 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.iinet.net.au by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.0) for edward@localhost (multi-drop); Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:00:20 +0800 (WST) Received: (qmail 6050 invoked by uid 666); 20 Feb 2003 23:51:40 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Envelope-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: (qmail 6021 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2003 23:51:39 - Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc01.attbi.com) (204.127.202.61) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 20 Feb 2003 23:51:39 - Received: from redline.kinz.org (unknown[24.91.157.212]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003022023513900100stf70e>; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:51:39 + Received: (from jkinz@localhost) by redline.kinz.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h1KNqx107232 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:52:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:52:59 -0500 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: UNSUBSCRIBING from the RedHat list and the RedHat install list From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Fetchmail-Warning: no recipient addresses matched declared local names X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamScore: sss Status: TO [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is an automated response to your email containing the word "unsubscribe" on the subject line. It is intended to help you unsubscribe from one of the RedHat mailing lists. If that is not what you wanted to do then please ignore this message. 1. HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE Go to the https link shown here: for the RedHat List: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list for the RedHat Install List: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list On the BOTTOM of that page, Find the box labeled "Edit Options". Put your email address in the box to its left and then Click the box that says "Edit options". On the TOP of the next page put your password in the first box, (The one to the left of the box that says "Unsubscribe"). Then click the box that says "Unsubscribe". Thats all. 2. WHAT IF I DON'T KNOW MY PASSWORD ? Go to the https link shown here: for the RedHat List: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list for the RedHat Install List: https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-install-list On the BOTTOM of that page, Find the box labeled "Edit Options". Put your email address in the box to its left and then Click the box that says "Edit options". On the next page find the box that says "Email My Password To Me". Click that box. Thats all. Your password will be emailed to you. When you get it follow the instructions for #1 above. --- --- Edward Dekkers (Director) Triple D Computer Services P/L -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout!
I've had this same problem with integrated Intel NICs. There is actually an e100.0 module by default, but Redhat isn't using it. All you need to do is change /etc/modules.conf to read: from: alias eepro100 eth(n) to alias e100 eth(n) and all should be well. My desktop at work had this same thing. Ric Christopher Lyon wrote: I downloaded the latest from Intel and make install. It is still doing it. Once I get the failure on the console all network traffic stops. I must reboot the box in order for it to work correctly again. It is a Tyan 2425 with Intel Pro100 built in cards. -Original Message- From: Ramesh .T.S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout! tryto compile e100 driver from intel and check cox eepro has certain bugs which affects during heavy traffic or autonegotiation - Original Message - From: "Christopher Lyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 11:36 PM Subject: eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout! I seem to be having a problem with copy files in or out of this machine. I noticed that a console message just came up and it said "eepro100: wait_for_cmd_done timeout!" I have never seen this before and I noticed that the box from the networking standpoint is completely locked up. Anybody seen this before? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: GUI applet dissapearance
Yep, happens to me too. I've heard other reports of it on this list as well. Except, in my case, gone, is gone. It doesn't come back (to that one user). If I log in as a different user, it's there. Ric On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:53:06AM -0800, Terry Hobart wrote: > I have noticed something odd about the program bar in the RedHat 8.0 GUI > interface. Every once in a while when I boot the machine up the rhn applet > (the round !) turns into a vertical line (width = 1). Upon one or two > reboots it comes back. Just recently I was moving the machine from one ip > network to another and the applet & the time display disappeared. Also, now > when I minimize an application it drops to the bar but off the screen to the > right and I can't get it back. > > I was able to duplicate the rhn going to a vertical line problem on a > machine at my 033 RedHat class but the instructor had no idea what had > caused it. > > This only happens to the one user that it occurred in. i.e. if I log in as > some one else it is fine. > > I use a relatively high resolution (11xx X 7xx). > > It is most perplexing. Has anyone else experienced this and does anyone know > how to reset it. > > I have manually re-added the rhn & time to the bar but still cannot fix the > minimize issue. > > Thanks in advance > > Terry > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Simple router
Edward Dekkers wrote: In this case, there's no firewall (don't need one). So iptables is not running. So that's out. The nics both work, although only one has an address. By all rights all the things you listed should make it work. The link lights are definately on on all connected points? For the sake of sanity, you wanna run 'service ipchains stop' and 'service iptables stop' for me? It has caught me out before and may sound like a stupid suggestion, but I don't care. Regards, --- Edward Dekkers (Director) Triple D Computer Services P/L Ed; I'm not at the office right now, and tomorrow morning I'll be working on a server. But I should be free to work on this again in the afternoon. yeah, by all rights, "It Should Work". It's all there. Yes, the link lights are all on. I've run "service iptables stop" and I've turned on ip_forwarding. The silly thing SHOULD work. But it doesn't. This is #2 for me of things that should work but don't. I'm battling another issue with LDAP.. But let's not get into that. I've missed something either very basic, or very obscure. I just can't for the life of me spot it. This one is frustrating. Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Simple router
Warren Johnson wrote: Tibbetts, Ric wrote: I've been doing this with both Redhat & Mandrake for years. But now.. with RH 8.0, it doesn't work. Ric, I'm using RH 8.0 and doing the exact same thing. I use the RH8.0 box as a router for a mixed Windows/Linux network. It also has iptables, DNS and SSH and everything works fine - the problem is not RH 8.0. If you can ping both interfaces on the router box from the third box then routing is working ok on the router box. If the routing is working ok, then it has to be the wrong gateway address (I'm assuming you've checked the NIC, the wiring, subnet mask, etc), that's the only things it can be. Yeah, I'm doing it at home too. That's why this one is bugging me so bad. I thought at first maybe Redhat was blocking something by default that I needed to turn on. In this case, there's no firewall (don't need one). So iptables is not running. So that's out. The nics both work, although only one has an address. So, what's different: (pardon me while I think) #-- At home: DSL into card one of the server. Card two of server to switch Firewall between the cards. All other clients plug into the switch. Both cards have an IP. The outer one has an official IP, the inner one is of the 192.168.0.0 variety. Both cards IPs are listed on the DNS server. All the clients are name served by the server. All clients list the outer card as their gateway. # - k.. simple enough #--- At the office e-net line from wall to card 1 crossover cable from card 2 to machine two. (no hub, or switch). Card 1, and machine 2 both have registered IPs, served by company dns service. Card 2, has the 192.168.0.0 variety, and is not listed anywhere. But, since machine 2 plugs directly into card 2, I shouldn't need to list it anywhere. The card is active. ip-forwarding is turned on. There is no firewall, so iptables is turned off. (no rules means everything allowed(?). Machine 2 uses address from card 1 on server as gateway. The server can ping both of it's interfaces. The server cannot ping machine 2. Machine 2, cannot ping the server, neither by name, nor address. # -- The thing is plugged straight into the machine, and they can't see each other. What am I missing? uh... ... /etc/hosts.allow ALL:local (?) or such. nah... /etc/hosts.allow currently has: ALL:ALL That could cover that. Should I list the second NIC in /etc/hosts on the "server"? I'm stumped. It should work. HELP! ;) Ric I've missed something really obvious. This is to simple to screw up. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: CD Burn sw
Jeffrey Tadlock said: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:35:36AM +, jdaues wrote: >> Hello, >> Can anyone recommend a good CD Burning app? >> I've tried KOnCD, which gives numerous errors and X-CD-Roast, which I >> can't even figure out how to use, the GUI is designed so poorly. >> Thanks. > > I use GnomeToaster occasionally with decent results. I've also used gtoaster with good results. I've had problems with Xcdroast in getting it configured. but of course, I do most of my cd burns with cdrecord. It ain't a gui, but you really, don't always need one. I tend to spend most of my time at the command line (I don't like gui's). JMHO Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Problem with /etc/group file
Ed Wilts wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:51:03AM -0500, Ric Tibbetts wrote: I've run into this on other *nix's as well, in a couple of very large environments. It's a problem with reading long group lists. Work-around #2 - This is ugly, but it works: In /etc/group Create the group. We'll call it "Work" for this conversation. Add in the number of users that it will take. Then create a group called "Work2" WITH THE SAME GID as "Work", and add more users to that. When that one is full, Go with "Work3" ... etc... Keeping the GID the same on all of them. It's the GID that's important, not the group name. Hi Ric, This works if you have a large number of users to add to one group. What can I do if I have a single user that needs access to a large number of groups? Have you found good workarounds for this? Thanks, .../Ed Unfortunately, I don't have an out-of-pocket answer to that. Although I'm sure there's a way, I've just never had to deal with the situation. I always thought that "group" should be a tree structure, rather than a flat file. Then you could assign "classes" of users, to a default (pre-defined)set of groups. For example: The base class of "Admin_Users" would automatically be assigned to sub groups: Group: Admin_Users group1a group2a group3a etc. Reg_Users group1r group2r group3r Web_Admins group1w group2w group3w etc. And on. There may already be a way to automate this, but I've not worked with it. But it seems a reasonable approach. It could no doubt be set up as a script fairly easily... Anyone? Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: RH8.0 - nfsd hangs badly + 1TB SCSI partition
Are you "sure" it's not the network itself? I've had problems with Redhat 8.0 and the Intel EPro 100 driver. Changing it from "eepro100" to "e100" clears up the problem. Just a shot in the dark. Ric Iulian Musat wrote: Hi everybody ! After we installed a fresh RedHat 8.0 on a 2 processor machine the NFS daemon hangs from time to time - really badly, since I cannot kill it with -9. The problem occurs every couples of days. I cannot even reboot, because the reboot process will hang trying to kill the NFS daemon. The problem is that after I try to kill nfsd, the exported partitions are not accessible, even locally - every access just hangs. Also, umount will report that the partition is busy. Just to make it clear: - the nfsd hangs (I cannot access the exported partition from any client) - the partition is still accessible locally - try (unsuccessfully) to kill nfsd - the partition is not accessible anymore There is no processor activity when it hangs both processors are idle. Also looks like there is no disk activity. Now, the partitions are some big (1TB) RAID disks. The RAID system is a separate box, accessible through a SCSI interface. So the computer will see just one big disk. Actually there are two of them, on different LUNs: 0 and 1. It worked fine before the upgrade, but because of a old kernel only LUN0 was accessible. Here are the details : processor: two Pentium III (Coppermine) at 800MHz, 256KB cache memory: 2GB kernel version: 2.4.18-19.8.0smp (upgraded with up2date) I think there is no need to say that any suggestions to solve this problem are extremely welcome :-) Cheers, iulian -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Problem with /etc/group file
I've run into this on other *nix's as well, in a couple of very large environments. It's a problem with reading long group lists. We found a couple of work-arounds, but no "solutions". Work-around #1 -- If the group in question is to be the "default" group for all those users, put it in their /etc/passwd entry, not /etc/group, like so: /etc/passwd :x:3245:12345::/home/:/bin/bash /etc/group :x:12345: Done that way, you don't need to list "all" the users in the group file. This has some obvious limitations if the users belong to a number of groups. Work-around #2 - This is ugly, but it works: In /etc/group Create the group. We'll call it "Work" for this conversation. Add in the number of users that it will take. Then create a group called "Work2" WITH THE SAME GID as "Work", and add more users to that. When that one is full, Go with "Work3" ... etc... Keeping the GID the same on all of them. It's the GID that's important, not the group name. It's kludgy as hell, but it works. I can point to some very large installations, in some very major corporations that are done that way. Yes, the problem exists on AIX, HP-UX, and Solaris to my knowledge.. maybe others. So it doesn't surprise me to see it emerge on Linux. If someone has better ways, I know a pack of admins that would love to see it! Ric Michael Tyrrell wrote: I am running Red-Hat 8.0. I have a default group that I need to add about 700 users to. My problem is that after I add about 80 users to the group I can't add any more. If I add more to the group the group file will no longer be read from that group down. So this group or any group that comes after this one will not be read by any user logging into the system. Once I get to the point that the group file can not be read, if I remove the last user from this group the file is once again readable. I can also add more groups to the group file just not more users to the problem group. The problem does not seem to be tied to a specific group. I can create a new group and have the same problem. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Dumb Grub question (on Phoebe)
All; Ok, I KNOW I've seen this before, I know I've used it.. but for the life of me, I can't find it now... I just re-loaded the box with Phoebe (I've been running it, but wanted to reconfigure a few things..). And now, I want to re-add the other OS's to grub (it's a multi-boot box). I swear, there used to be a way to configure boot options, and grub through a utility... Can some kind soul refresh me? Thank you! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Automount & LDAP
Steve; Thanks for the reply, and good luck to you too. In my case, I'm trying to get RedHat 8.0 LDAP + automount (client), to work with a Solaris LDAP server. I had automounter working with the old Solaris NIS server, but someone thought that was too easy, and changed it all over to LDAP.. So, I'm starting over. ;) I'll check out the link you provided. In addition, I found the following, which may shed some light... So far, it hasn't helped mine, .. But I'm still working on it. http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-software/200106/msg00355.html Ric Rigler, S C (Steve) wrote: I'm about to start working with the same issue right now. I found some information at: http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/599.html My first step is to get the automounter to work with Irix clients and I'm having some luck there (although the migrate scripts don't seem to be setting up the ldif files correctly). My next step is to test the automounter on RedHat clients. FYI, we're having to change our "standardized" RedHat load here to use autofs4 instead of the autofs that's included with RH. Issues we were running into were a lack of support for multipath entries. Direct maps are still an issue that we've worked around via some scripting. Basically, getting a Linux client to behave like other Unix machines wrt to autofs is a pain. Let me know how autofs + LDAP works for you on Linux. -Steve -Original Message- From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:22 PM To: Redhat List Subject: Automount & LDAP Does anyone here have any experience with getting automounter & LDAP playing together on Redhat ? So far, LDAP is running fine, but I can't get the automounter to pick up. Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: The use of FIND search tool
Purely for the sake of the curious: updatedb uses "find" to build the database. :) Ric Ted Gervais wrote: Wondering something here. If a persons database is not quite up to date, and you run 'find' to search for files - will the search be successful? Or to me sure - should you run updatedb first before running 'find'. I am hoping the 'find' utiltiy works independant of whether the computers database is up to date or not.. Anyone please? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: ibm netvista hangs / freezes with rh80
I've had the same problem with netvistas. After pounding on it for a while, mine turned out to be network related. Seems that the integrated ethernet isn't too stable. Any network activity at all would freeze the box. My solution: Install an add-on ethernet card, and disable the onboard (or at least, don't activate it at boot time). After I did that, it works fine. Hope that helps! Ric On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:28:19PM +, Thierry ITTY wrote: > Hi > > I have an IBM netvista (model 6349) > It works fine with windows nt > > I installed rh80 on it (all packages, out-of-the-box) > It works fine for a while, then it hangs, the only cure is a power off/on > > I searched a lot, read various docs, found nothing > I updated the bios to latest version, doesn't help > > It's a make/model problem, not a machine one : another netvista I used > formerly has the SAME problem > I think that the only way to cure is to change some kernel > option/parameter, but which one ??? > I really need help > > TIA > - * - * - * - * - * - * - > Bien sûr que je suis perfectionniste ! > Mais ne pourrais-je pas l'être mieux ? > Thierry ITTY > eMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: A Linux Browser that supports java
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 05:14:39PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:19:10 -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > > > I just tried to follow this link. > > It takes you to a page where you select your client type, and it then > > "auto downloads" , and installs. (cough).. Nice if you just want it in > > your personal workspace... > > > > However, the link ultimately points to "ftp.netscape.com", which does > > not exist. > > ftp.netscape.com does exist. And the file does exist, too. > Just to run this into the ground: If it does exist, then there is a configuraion problem. ncftp ftp.netscape.com NcFTP 3.1.3 (Mar 27, 2002) by Mike Gleason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Resolving ftp.netscape.com... Unknown host "ftp.netscape.com". ncftp> Cuz it don't work from here. I've tried this from a different domain as well, thinking it may be an internal problem. But I can't get to it. RIc > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.2.2/unix/linux22/plugins/ > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.2.2/unix/linux22/plugins/jre131_02.xpi > > $ ftp ftp.netscape.com > Connected to ftp.netscape.com (64.12.168.249). > 220 ftpnscp.newaol.com FTP server (SunOS 5.8) ready. > 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. > 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. > prompt > Interactive mode off. > binary > 200 Type set to I. > tick > Tick counter printing on (10240 bytes/tick increment). > prompt > Interactive mode on. > Remote system type is UNIX. > Using binary mode to transfer files. > ftp> quit > 221 Goodbye. > > - -- > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+NVrv0iMVcrivHFQRAgluAJ0UTXSTe801FbYNccX19EygyIWHAgCfc/sH > bSycExov1lwf8uWrpw6AAeg= > =Wigk > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: who am i ?
Try "w" It shows who is logged in, and what they're doing. TO kill a "rogue" login: Just kill their first session, the rest will go with it. For example: (I ssh'd into a box for this one) [ric@ibu ric]$ w 7:05am up 3 days, 1:15, 1 user, load average: 2.00, 2.00, 2.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT ric pts/0120.100.33.65.cf 7:05am 0.00s 0.58s 0.07s w You'll see that I'm logged in on pts/0 To kick me out, grab the process id from that: ps -ef | grep "pts/0" [ric@ibu ric]$ ps -ef | grep "pts/0" ric 11282 11280 1 07:05 pts/000:00:00 -bash ric 11415 11282 0 07:06 pts/000:00:00 ps -ef ric 11416 11282 0 07:06 pts/000:00:00 grep pts/0 To thow me out, the admin would just "kill 11282", and I'm out. Something in the foggy part of my brain remembers an easier way, but it won't come out. And the above has always worked for me. Ric On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 09:34, Stone, Timothy wrote: > Excuse the pun. :) I need help with determining the users logged in, etc. > > Given this actual example: > > 1. [tstone@vahalla tstone]$ who -l -H > 2. USER LINE LOGIN-TIME FROM > 3. tstone pts/0Jan 21 16:21 > 4. tstone pts/1Jan 21 16:21 > 5. tstone pts/4Jan 15 15:26 > 6. tstone pts/2Jan 21 16:22 > 7. tstone pts/3Jan 24 09:29 (10.40.100.80) > > I'm trying to run down the logins... > > Line 1 is of course the command the produced the output. > Line 2 is the result of the -H switch > Line 3-6 are the logins in question. > Line 7 is the login that produced the output > > Looking closely at the four (4) logins associated with Lines 3-6: > > Lines 4 & 6 are stdin logins (terminals open in konsole) > > What are lines 3 & 5? As close as I can determine Line 5 is the login associated >with restarting the box. But I haven't the faintest clue what Line 3's login is for. > > Is there a more descriptive tool that points back to the processes or reasons for >the logins? > > Finally, if I find a rogue login, how can I terminate it? > > Warmest Regards, > Tim > > -- > /** > * Timothy Stone . Sun Certified Java Programmer > * Web Master . tstone at cityofhbg dot com > * City of Harrisburg . 717.255.7297 > * Pennsylvania USA . 717.903.9162 > * > * "Censorship always defeats its own purpose, > * for it creates in the end the kind of society > * that is incapable of exercising real discretion." > * --Henry Steele Commager, Historian > */ -- Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Odd Sound problem with 8.1
All; I seem to be the king of finding odd problems. I finally got the CDs straightened out last night, and got 8.1 (beta 2) loaded up. Looks good by the way! No huge changes, just bug fixes, as it should be! Good job RedHat!). There is an odd problem with the sound though. When I first boot up, the first time I log in, I have no sound. The speaker just make a "pop" (once), and that's it. However, if I log out, and log back in, the sound works fine... Any thoughts on what would be causing that? Thanks! -- Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: MP3 on 8.1
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 18:56, Cliff Wells wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:50, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > So, with redhat's stance on mp3. What do we use as an mp3 player that > > will run on 8.1(beta)? > > Google is your friend: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Redhat+8.0+mp3 > > or you can go directly to: > > http://psyche.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=107 Yup, I had that plug-in. But it wasn't working in 8.1 Then I remembered to go into xmms, and disable the "placeholder" that Redhat sticks in there. Works much better now. Ric > > -- > Cliff Wells, Software Engineer > Logiplex Corporation (www.logiplex.net) > (503) 978-6726 x308 (800) 735-0555 x308 -- Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
MP3 on 8.1
So, with redhat's stance on mp3. What do we use as an mp3 player that will run on 8.1(beta)? Thanks! -- Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Burning CD's of 8.1 beta (solved)
All; I have this solved. The problem was: Redhat changed the beta version while I was downloading it. I ended up with disc one being beta 1, and discs 2 & 3 on beta 2. That didn't work out so well. Ric On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Buck wrote: > Do you have more than one installed cd drive or a cd and dvd? I had to > disconnect one of the drives because it couldn't make up its mind which > drive the disc was in. (vs 7.2). 8.0 only worked from the DVD drive. > > This is probably a shot in the dark for you, but I hope it is helpful > > Buck > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Burning CD's of 8.1 beta > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:05:46 -0500, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > All; > > I've burned about a dozen coasters now. I'm doing something very > > wrong. > > > > I have the iso images of the 8.1 beta. I've burned iso's before, and > > they always worked. But not this time. Has something changed? > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > I burn the 3 CD's. > > Insert #1 & boot: > > Machine boots, and starts loading normally. > > It reaches the part about asking for disc 2, and it refuses to accept > > the one I put in. > > > > I've checked the downloads, the md5sums are fine. I've used the "check > > media" at the begining of the install, they all check out fine. > > Mounting them, shows them looking very normal. > > > > But the install won't recognize them. > > Is this the first version of Red Hat Linux were this happens to you? > > > If I put in #1, and autorun kicks in, it says that the operation > > requires disc 1, and instructs you to insert it.. but it's already in > > the drive. > > > > What am I missing? If the discs need to be labled, what do they need > > to be labeled to? > > No. Everything you need is stored in the ISO images already. An ISO > image is a raw copy of an ISO 9660 file-system. When you burn the > image to CD and the burnt CD passes the MD5 checksum or media-check, > your problem is something else. > > Maybe you switched disc #2 and disc #2 or anything like that? > Are you sure you really have the first three discs? ;) > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+L/6Q0iMVcrivHFQRAgC8AJwLuiHQlbA7G57ZgPLACym2VCPiDQCfS/Mt > vEYGTHFKFfSr3iRRW5JQWXc= > =vfFB > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > -- Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Burning CD's of 8.1 beta (solved)
Ok, I'm the master of the exceedingly odd situations. What happened was: Redhat changed the beta versions on the mirrors, as I was downloading them. The result was: Disc 1 was beta 1, disc 2 & 3 were beta 2. Redhat: How about putting new versions in appropriately titled directories, to avoid this in the future? It was pretty frustrating. I'm up on 8.1 beta 2 now. But getting here could have been a lot easier. ;) Ric On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Buck wrote: > Do you have more than one installed cd drive or a cd and dvd? I had to > disconnect one of the drives because it couldn't make up its mind which > drive the disc was in. (vs 7.2). 8.0 only worked from the DVD drive. > > This is probably a shot in the dark for you, but I hope it is helpful > > Buck > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of Michael Schwendt > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Burning CD's of 8.1 beta > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:05:46 -0500, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > All; > > I've burned about a dozen coasters now. I'm doing something very > > wrong. > > > > I have the iso images of the 8.1 beta. I've burned iso's before, and > > they always worked. But not this time. Has something changed? > > > > Here's the problem: > > > > I burn the 3 CD's. > > Insert #1 & boot: > > Machine boots, and starts loading normally. > > It reaches the part about asking for disc 2, and it refuses to accept > > the one I put in. > > > > I've checked the downloads, the md5sums are fine. I've used the "check > > media" at the begining of the install, they all check out fine. > > Mounting them, shows them looking very normal. > > > > But the install won't recognize them. > > Is this the first version of Red Hat Linux were this happens to you? > > > If I put in #1, and autorun kicks in, it says that the operation > > requires disc 1, and instructs you to insert it.. but it's already in > > the drive. > > > > What am I missing? If the discs need to be labled, what do they need > > to be labeled to? > > No. Everything you need is stored in the ISO images already. An ISO > image is a raw copy of an ISO 9660 file-system. When you burn the > image to CD and the burnt CD passes the MD5 checksum or media-check, > your problem is something else. > > Maybe you switched disc #2 and disc #2 or anything like that? > Are you sure you really have the first three discs? ;) > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+L/6Q0iMVcrivHFQRAgC8AJwLuiHQlbA7G57ZgPLACym2VCPiDQCfS/Mt > vEYGTHFKFfSr3iRRW5JQWXc= > =vfFB > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > -- Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Burning CD's of 8.1 beta
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 03:53:48PM +0200, Marius Andreiana wrote: > On Jo, 2003-01-23 at 06:05, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > I have the iso images of the 8.1 beta. I've burned iso's before, and > > they always worked. But not this time. Has something changed? > phoebe2 worked for me. I've burned it to CDs and installed it after > that, used all 3 of them. *phoebe2* worked as *what*? The disk label? Could you add soem info to that please? Thanks! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Burning CD's of 8.1 beta
All; I've burned about a dozen coasters now. I'm doing something very wrong. I have the iso images of the 8.1 beta. I've burned iso's before, and they always worked. But not this time. Has something changed? Here's the problem: I burn the 3 CD's. Insert #1 & boot: Machine boots, and starts loading normally. It reaches the part about asking for disc 2, and it refuses to accept the one I put in. I've checked the downloads, the md5sums are fine. I've used the "check media" at the begining of the install, they all check out fine. Mounting them, shows them looking very normal. But the install won't recognize them. If I put in #1, and autorun kicks in, it says that the operation requires disc 1, and instructs you to insert it.. but it's already in the drive. What am I missing? If the discs need to be labled, what do they need to be labeled to? I've made a pile of coasters, just for a beta release. (i'm picking up a box of CR-RW's for beta releases after this!). Any help would be appreciated! Ric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
