Re: Best Filesystem
Actually...reiserfs was not originally designed as a journaling file system. It was a file system (without journaling) that sped up access to small files. So, both filesystems have had journaling added after they were initially written. -Sam On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 04:40:52PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 16:33, Taylor Spears wrote: > > Well, I decided to go with ReiserFS. Ext3fs just sorta seems like a hack > > to ext2 to get journaling. > > You could, I suppose, look at it one of two ways: > * ext3 is a hack on an old system > * ext2 was designed as an extensible, modular file system into which > additional features can be added; and journaling is a natural fit. > > The large group of people happy with ext3 are likely to take the second > view. > > > I also heard that ext3 is pretty slow > > compared to reiser > > Depends on the purpose. If you have directories with many entries, then > that's true. However, I understand that the ext3 driver will, at some > point, use b-tree structures internally, speeding up access to files in > large directories considerably. > > > , and they are both very reliable. However, XFS looks > > really slick. It says it uses ACL's. Are these somewhat like NT style > > ACL'L, where you can choose individual user permissions, or is it like > > the old -rwxrwxrwx type of permission system > > It's both. The standard UNIX permissions are preserved, in the form of > user, group, and world permissions. However, rather than a single entry > for each, user and group are lists. You can add additional users or > groups to any fs object and set permissions for them individually. > > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Sam Ockman, Chairman and CEO Tel: 415-358-2600 Fax: 415-896-6742 Toll Free: 888-PENGUIN PENGUIN COMPUTING - Simplifying the Solution Process [tm] www.penguincomputing.com -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Best Filesystem
On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 16:33, Taylor Spears wrote: > Well, I decided to go with ReiserFS. Ext3fs just sorta seems like a hack > to ext2 to get journaling. You could, I suppose, look at it one of two ways: * ext3 is a hack on an old system * ext2 was designed as an extensible, modular file system into which additional features can be added; and journaling is a natural fit. The large group of people happy with ext3 are likely to take the second view. > I also heard that ext3 is pretty slow > compared to reiser Depends on the purpose. If you have directories with many entries, then that's true. However, I understand that the ext3 driver will, at some point, use b-tree structures internally, speeding up access to files in large directories considerably. > , and they are both very reliable. However, XFS looks > really slick. It says it uses ACL's. Are these somewhat like NT style > ACL'L, where you can choose individual user permissions, or is it like > the old -rwxrwxrwx type of permission system It's both. The standard UNIX permissions are preserved, in the form of user, group, and world permissions. However, rather than a single entry for each, user and group are lists. You can add additional users or groups to any fs object and set permissions for them individually. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Best Filesystem
Well, I decided to go with ReiserFS. Ext3fs just sorta seems like a hack to ext2 to get journaling. I also heard that ext3 is pretty slow compared to reiser, and they are both very reliable. However, XFS looks really slick. It says it uses ACL's. Are these somewhat like NT style ACL'L, where you can choose individual user permissions, or is it like the old -rwxrwxrwx type of permission system On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 15:14, Kevin Krieser wrote: > A lot of it depends on how adventuresome you are, and what you are running > on it. > > For my purposes, ReiserFS has run well. The only times I've had problems > were with underlying IDE problems, or when an immature, buggy, driver > overwrote freed memory. But there have been some reports of problems in > some kernel releases. It does have advantages with more efficient use of > disk space and small files. > > ext3 has the advantage that low level tools for ext2 can work on it. > > There are also XFS (SGI) and JFS (IBM), which I don't know enough to comment > on. JFS is the only one I've used, but that was when I had IDE driver > problems, which made JFS look bad. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Taylor Spears > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Best Filesystem > > > What would you say is the best filesystem to use for linux in terms of > reliability, stability, and performance? > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Best Filesystem
A lot of it depends on how adventuresome you are, and what you are running on it. For my purposes, ReiserFS has run well. The only times I've had problems were with underlying IDE problems, or when an immature, buggy, driver overwrote freed memory. But there have been some reports of problems in some kernel releases. It does have advantages with more efficient use of disk space and small files. ext3 has the advantage that low level tools for ext2 can work on it. There are also XFS (SGI) and JFS (IBM), which I don't know enough to comment on. JFS is the only one I've used, but that was when I had IDE driver problems, which made JFS look bad. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Taylor Spears Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 5:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Filesystem What would you say is the best filesystem to use for linux in terms of reliability, stability, and performance? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Best Filesystem
Hi, I would use ext3, it is the x years old ext2 filesystem with the journaling feature. It's very stable and compatible to ext2, so if you have any crash it's easier to fix. ReiserFS is faster but not stable enough to use it at important functions. But if you want setup a Proxy i would recommed it. Alex -Original Message- From: Taylor Spears [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 12:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best Filesystem What would you say is the best filesystem to use for linux in terms of reliability, stability, and performance? -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
