Re: compiling the kernel

2003-01-09 Thread Daniel Callahan
I've written a Mini-HOWTO on compiling the kernel:
http://www.eclectic-cheval.net/linux/kr-mhowto.txt

I've posted it here for two reasons:
1) In case it will help, and
2) To get suggestions from those who know more than I do.

It's licensed under the FDL, so hack away.

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Re: compiling the kernel

2003-01-07 Thread ABrady
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:01:34 -0700
Craig Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can somebody give me a hand with compiling my kernel.  I run make
 config, and I get an error which essentially says no rule for
 config.  I did a custom install, and only installed networking and
 DNS  BIND.  I have a feeling I have to install some developer tools. 
 I tried to install the MAKEDEV.RPM, but it says it's already
 installed, along with the other make RPM.
 
 I am a newbie, so any help is appreciated.

Normally it's 'make xconfig or make menuconfig for kernels. Sice you
installed minimal, I'd think 'make menuconfig' would suffice.

If you have the Redhat kernel-source rpm installed, and if you don't
want to start from scratch, there's one already started in
/usr/src/linux-version/configs for whatever architecture you're using.
It can help a lot for getting started.

Basically, you copy the appropriate one to the top level of the source
tree, rename it as .config, 'make oldconfig' then run menuconfig. Such
as (this is a Rawhide kernel that you likely won't have):

cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-0.pp.20
cp configs/kernel-2.4.20-athlon.config ./.config
make oldconfig
make menuconfig

Then you set whatever options you want, get rid of things, etc. Beats
having to do it all from scratch (usually).

Things are different if you are using the tarball however.

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RE: compiling the kernel

2003-01-07 Thread Craig Cameron
I have nothing under /src/linux

No files or directory's.  I really think I need to add an RPM.

Thanks.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: compiling the kernel


On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:01:34 -0700
Craig Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can somebody give me a hand with compiling my kernel.  I run make
 config, and I get an error which essentially says no rule for
 config.  I did a custom install, and only installed networking and
 DNS  BIND.  I have a feeling I have to install some developer tools. 
 I tried to install the MAKEDEV.RPM, but it says it's already
 installed, along with the other make RPM.
 
 I am a newbie, so any help is appreciated.

Normally it's 'make xconfig or make menuconfig for kernels. Sice you
installed minimal, I'd think 'make menuconfig' would suffice.

If you have the Redhat kernel-source rpm installed, and if you don't
want to start from scratch, there's one already started in
/usr/src/linux-version/configs for whatever architecture you're using.
It can help a lot for getting started.

Basically, you copy the appropriate one to the top level of the source
tree, rename it as .config, 'make oldconfig' then run menuconfig. Such
as (this is a Rawhide kernel that you likely won't have):

cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-0.pp.20
cp configs/kernel-2.4.20-athlon.config ./.config
make oldconfig
make menuconfig

Then you set whatever options you want, get rid of things, etc. Beats
having to do it all from scratch (usually).

Things are different if you are using the tarball however.

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Re: compiling the kernel

2003-01-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:01:34 -0700, Craig Cameron wrote:

 Can somebody give me a hand with compiling my kernel.  I run make
 config, and I get an error which essentially says no rule for
 config. 

Where the heck did you run that command? ;) You must install the
kernel-source i386.rpm and then go into /usr/src/linux-2.4 for
kernel configuration and compilation. It's there where the
command would work.

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RE: compiling the kernel

2003-01-07 Thread Craig Cameron
Thanks.  After installing about 6 other dependency modules, I finally got
the kernel source installed.  

Now I can run make.

Thanks again.

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On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:01:34 -0700, Craig Cameron wrote:

 Can somebody give me a hand with compiling my kernel.  I run make
 config, and I get an error which essentially says no rule for
 config. 

Where the heck did you run that command? ;) You must install the
kernel-source i386.rpm and then go into /usr/src/linux-2.4 for
kernel configuration and compilation. It's there where the
command would work.

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RE: compiling the kernel

2003-01-07 Thread Craig Cameron
I did try make menuconfig, but had the same result. 

What is the RPM for Kernal hacking?

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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:19 PM
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On Tuesday 07 January 2003 13:01, Craig Cameron wrote:
 Can somebody give me a hand with compiling my kernel.  I run make config,
 and I get an error which essentially says no rule for config.  I did a
 custom install, and only installed networking and DNS  BIND.  I have a
 feeling I have to install some developer tools.  I tried to install the
 MAKEDEV.RPM, but it says it's already installed, along with the
 other make RPM.

Make sure you're root (no offense -- I mention this because this is still on

my Top 10 Dumb Error List), and try:

make menuconfig (in a terminal)
make xconfig (only in Xwindows)

You will need the developer tools, but RH will add those if you install the 
Kernel Hacking option in setup.

Hope that helps!

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Re: compiling the kernel

2003-01-07 Thread Daniel Callahan
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 13:01, Craig Cameron wrote:
 Can somebody give me a hand with compiling my kernel.  I run make config,
 and I get an error which essentially says no rule for config.  I did a
 custom install, and only installed networking and DNS  BIND.  I have a
 feeling I have to install some developer tools.  I tried to install the
 MAKEDEV.RPM, but it says it's already installed, along with the
 other make RPM.

Make sure you're root (no offense -- I mention this because this is still on 
my Top 10 Dumb Error List), and try:

make menuconfig (in a terminal)
make xconfig (only in Xwindows)

You will need the developer tools, but RH will add those if you install the 
Kernel Hacking option in setup.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-11 Thread Jeff Davis
Well, I took the path of least resistance and compiled a static 
kernel.  Seems to work ok :)

However, I'm still wondering why I'm having trouble building a modular 
kernel.  mkinitrd cannot find the ncr583cxx module, but it doe exist in the 
appropriate folder.  Any thoughts?

At 09:05 PM 12/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:51 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:

 No. The module-info file is only for your Linux distributor's
 installation and hardware configuration utilities which maintain
 kernel driver entries in /etc/modules.conf. The file is not created
 when building a kernel from source.

 Huh.  So, if I want or need to create a ramdisk image for the new
 kernel, how do I get mkinitrd to quite whining about not being able to
 find my ncr53c8xx module.  The file (ncr53c8xx.o) is in the
 /lib/modules/scsi directory.  Or should *I* quite whining and build a
 static kernel?

It should be in /lib/modules/$KERNEL_VERSION/kernel/drivers/scsi and
whether or not it is found might depend on how you call mkinitrd.

The module-info file is not used by mkinitrd. /etc/modules.conf is.

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:50:32 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:

 The kernel compiles without errors, but for some reason there is no 
 module-info-2.4.18 file created, or at least I have been unable to
 find it.  grep-ing the source tree shows no module-info strings
 anywhere in the code, Makefiles, or Docs.  Likewise find / -iname
 module-info*  only shows those files used by my current kernel,
 nothing for the 2.4.18 version.  Usenet and web search have produced
 queries from other people with the same problem, but no solutions,
 which leads me to believe that the solution was so simple that they
 were embarrassed to post a follow-up.  Unfortunately, not simple
 enough for me to figure out ;)
 
 So, am I missing something obvious?  Do I need to install an
 additional package to make this work?  modutils perhaps?

No. The module-info file is only for your Linux distributor's
installation and hardware configuration utilities which maintain
kernel driver entries in /etc/modules.conf. The file is not created
when building a kernel from source.

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-10 Thread Jeff Davis
At 09:46 AM 12/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:

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On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:50:32 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:

*snip*
 So, am I missing something obvious?  Do I need to install an
 additional package to make this work?  modutils perhaps?

No. The module-info file is only for your Linux distributor's
installation and hardware configuration utilities which maintain
kernel driver entries in /etc/modules.conf. The file is not created
when building a kernel from source.


Huh.  So, if I want or need to create a ramdisk image for the new kernel, 
how do I get mkinitrd to quite whining about not being able to find my 
ncr53c8xx module.  The file (ncr53c8xx.o) is in the /lib/modules/scsi 
directory.  Or should *I* quite whining and build a static kernel?

Thanks

-Jeff

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-10 Thread Rick Johnson
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Jeff Davis wrote:

| Huh.  So, if I want or need to create a ramdisk image for the new
| kernel, how do I get mkinitrd to quite whining about not being able to
| find my ncr53c8xx module.  The file (ncr53c8xx.o) is in the
| /lib/modules/scsi directory.  Or should *I* quite whining and build a
| static kernel?

The real question is do you need a modular kernel? Do you plan on ever
switching the hardware out on this machine or will the configuration
remain static for the duration of this kernel's use?

If it's going to remain static, there's nothing wrong w/ a static kernel
- - or at a minimum, making the SCSI module staticly compiled (leaving the
rest modular).

Building a modular kernel that works right is a challenge, especially on
non-standard hardware.

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:51 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:

 No. The module-info file is only for your Linux distributor's
 installation and hardware configuration utilities which maintain
 kernel driver entries in /etc/modules.conf. The file is not created
 when building a kernel from source.
 
 Huh.  So, if I want or need to create a ramdisk image for the new
 kernel, how do I get mkinitrd to quite whining about not being able to
 find my ncr53c8xx module.  The file (ncr53c8xx.o) is in the
 /lib/modules/scsi directory.  Or should *I* quite whining and build a
 static kernel?

It should be in /lib/modules/$KERNEL_VERSION/kernel/drivers/scsi and
whether or not it is found might depend on how you call mkinitrd.

The module-info file is not used by mkinitrd. /etc/modules.conf is.

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-09 Thread David van Hoose
Why are you doing a make clean after the make dep?
Generally you do the following to build your kernel. (As defined in README)

make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

Doing the above will not give you a module-info file. I never found an 
isntance where I needed one. Also, are there any special reasons why are 
you needing an initrd?

-David

Jeff Davis wrote:

Ok, this is making me nuts. I've compiled from source before, but it's 
been awhile (2.2 kernel, I think). I'm hoping I've just missed 
something basic, but I haven't been able to find it yet.

I unpack the source (2.4.18), then execute the following:

make xconfig (modular kernel)
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

My box (proliant 1600, currently running 2.2.19) has the smartarray 
SCSI controller, and so needs (as I understand it) the initrd file to 
be able to boot.

Installing from binary RPM is not really an option given all the 
likely failed dependencies...

The kernel compiles without errors, but for some reason there is no 
module-info-2.4.18 file created, or at least I have been unable to 
find it. grep-ing the source tree shows no module-info strings 
anywhere in the code, Makefiles, or Docs. Likewise find / -iname 
module-info* only shows those files used by my current kernel, 
nothing for the 2.4.18 version. Usenet and web search have produced 
queries from other people with the same problem, but no solutions, 
which leads me to believe that the solution was so simple that they 
were embarrassed to post a follow-up. Unfortunately, not simple enough 
for me to figure out ;)

So, am I missing something obvious? Do I need to install an additional 
package to make this work? modutils perhaps?

Thanks,

-Jeff

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-09 Thread Jeff Davis
At 05:01 PM 12/9/2002 -0600, you wrote:

Why are you doing a make clean after the make dep?


It's been a while since I've customized a kernel...  According to the howto 
they recommended doing a make clean after make dep.  Perhaps this was an 
old howto?

Generally you do the following to build your kernel. (As defined in README)

make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

Doing the above will not give you a module-info file. I never found an 
isntance where I needed one. Also, are there any special reasons why are 
you needing an initrd?

SCSI driver needs one to boot, as I understand it.  I could be misinformed...



-David

Jeff Davis wrote:


Ok, this is making me nuts. I've compiled from source before, but it's 
been awhile (2.2 kernel, I think). I'm hoping I've just missed something 
basic, but I haven't been able to find it yet.

I unpack the source (2.4.18), then execute the following:

make xconfig (modular kernel)
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

My box (proliant 1600, currently running 2.2.19) has the smartarray SCSI 
controller, and so needs (as I understand it) the initrd file to be able 
to boot.

Installing from binary RPM is not really an option given all the likely 
failed dependencies...

The kernel compiles without errors, but for some reason there is no 
module-info-2.4.18 file created, or at least I have been unable to find 
it. grep-ing the source tree shows no module-info strings anywhere in 
the code, Makefiles, or Docs. Likewise find / -iname module-info* only 
shows those files used by my current kernel, nothing for the 2.4.18 
version. Usenet and web search have produced queries from other people 
with the same problem, but no solutions, which leads me to believe that 
the solution was so simple that they were embarrassed to post a 
follow-up. Unfortunately, not simple enough for me to figure out ;)

So, am I missing something obvious? Do I need to install an additional 
package to make this work? modutils perhaps?

Thanks,

-Jeff

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Re: Compiling 2.4.18 kernel - missing module-info file?

2002-12-09 Thread David van Hoose
Jeff Davis wrote:


At 05:01 PM 12/9/2002 -0600, you wrote:


Why are you doing a make clean after the make dep?



It's been a while since I've customized a kernel... According to the 
howto they recommended doing a make clean after make dep. Perhaps this 
was an old howto?

Perhaps. The README in the src root dir is where the instructions that I 
use are.

Generally you do the following to build your kernel. (As defined in 
README)

make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install

Doing the above will not give you a module-info file. I never found 
an isntance where I needed one. Also, are there any special reasons 
why are you needing an initrd?


SCSI driver needs one to boot, as I understand it. I could be 
misinformed...

Hmm. What SCSI driver? I included a lot of SCSI stuff in my kernel even 
though I don't use 80% of it, and I never need one. Perhaps you could 
experiment with it once you get everything running and let us know. I'd 
be very interested to hear more on this.

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Cant connect to HTTPS after re-compiling the kernel

2002-11-13 Thread Silkk
Hello,


Do you know how come i cant connect to HTTPS sites after re-compiling my kernel to
2.4.19 and i un-installed ipchains...
rpm -q ipchains
Casue im going to use iptables?But i have not put in any rules. It was working
before i re-compiled the kernel? Any ideas what could cause this? Im usuing Mozilla 1.1
Browser i also tryed it with netscape and still cant connect to websites HTTPS...
RedHat 7.3
2.4.19 Kernel

Kernel 2.4.18 is the kernel that it works with?  Any ideeas


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Cant connect to HTTPS after re-compiling the kernel

2002-11-12 Thread Silkk
Hey,

Do you know how come i cant connect to HTTPS sites after re-compiling my kernel to
2.4.19 and i un-installed ipchains...casue im going to use iptables? It was working
before i re-compiled the kernel? Any ideas what could cause this? Im usuing Mozilla 1.1
Browser i also tryed it with netscape and still cant connect to websites...
RedHat 7.3
2.4.19 Kernel




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Re-Compiling the kernel.

2002-09-13 Thread Trevor Fraser

Hello all.

I'm in the process of re-compiling the kernel, but I get to a point where
there's an error.  These are the steps up to the error:
# cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3
# make config (CONFIG_PCMCIA = no  to achieve a kernel without PCMCIA
support)
# make dep
# make clean
# make bzImage
# make modules
# make modules_install  ( this is where the error appears)
ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory
make: *** [_modinst_] Error 1
#

I read the man pages and it suggests that the directory it should
make_install is /lib/modules/2.4.*/
My new kernel will be called 2.4.18-3no-pcmcia-cs so I tried:
# make modules_install /lib/modules/2.4.18-3no-pcmcia-cs/
but the same error occurs.  Please can you advise me where I'm going wrong.

Thanks, Trevor.




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Re-Compiling the kernel.

2002-09-13 Thread Trevor Fraser

Hello all.

I'm in the process of re-compiling the kernel, but I get to a point where
there's an error.  These are the steps up to the error:
# cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-3
# make config (CONFIG_PCMCIA = no  to achieve a kernel without PCMCIA
support)
# make dep
# make clean
# make bzImage
# make modules
# make modules_install  ( this is where the error appears)
ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory
make: *** [_modinst_] Error 1
#

I read the man pages and it suggests that the directory it should
make_install is /lib/modules/2.4.*/
My new kernel will be called 2.4.18-3no-pcmcia-cs so I tried:
# make modules_install /lib/modules/2.4.18-3no-pcmcia-cs/
but the same error occurs.  Please can you advise me where I'm going wrong.

Thanks, Trevor.





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Re: compiling the kernel to recognize ntfs

2002-09-08 Thread Ricardo Mostalac

So..., I recompile the kernel with NTFS suport, and
copy to /boot, I modify grub.conf in /boot/grub to
select the kernel to boot, but when select the kernel
with NTFS suport the system freezing when the red hat
7.3 is begin to load..., then I have to rebooting the
machine and select the kernel unmodifing to enter, but
without NTFS suport, what is wrong with this
procedure?

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 anyone can tell me his experience doing this?
 
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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-20 Thread David Talkington

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Mike Burger wrote:

If you compiled the kernel with the device drivers as modules, and not 
directly into the kernel, and any of those drivers/modules are needed for 
the initial startup, it could cause problems.

If you compiled all those drivers directly into the kernel, instead of as 
modules, then you don't need the initrd-whatever.img.

Forgive me for being dense, but why would one want to compile as a
module a driver which is needed for the system to even boot?  Modules
are great for peripherals and supporting functions, and I can see the
benefit of low-level drivers as modules too if you're building a
kernel that must be portable.  For a dedicated custom build, though,
why would one not build the crucial components into the kernel and
spare oneself the trouble?

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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-20 Thread Mike Burger

I'm currently using X-CD-Roast...but I'll look at some others at some 
point, too.

On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:

 I compiled most everything I'll need into the kernel.  cdburner, visor,
 usb printer/scanner stuff, etc.  but for next time, thanks for the info
 Bret, Mike and Werner.   
 
 -Brandon
 
 p.s.  this doesn't have to be a list question, but what do you guys
 recommend for a cd-burning software?  Now that I have scsi support in
 there I'll actually be able to do it under linux... (that was the reason
 i recompiled.)  
 
 On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 22:34, Mike Burger wrote:
  That'll kinda depend.
  
  If you compiled the kernel with the device drivers as modules, and not 
  directly into the kernel, and any of those drivers/modules are needed for 
  the initial startup, it could cause problems.
  
  If you compiled all those drivers directly into the kernel, instead of as 
  modules, then you don't need the initrd-whatever.img.
  
  For example, if you were booting from a SCSI drive, and had compiled the 
  driver for the SCSI card as a module, you'd need to create the 
  initrd-whatever.img file (using mkinitrd), and include it in your 
  lilo.conf, in order to properly boot from that SCSI card/drive combo.
  
  On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:
  
   Before I got this e-mail i just removed the initrd line and rebooted. 
   now i get:  
   
   [Brandon@localhost Brandon]$ uname -a
   Linux localhost.localdomain 2.4.17 #1 Sat Jan 19 19:28:25 PST 2002 i686
   unknown
   
   :-)  So it works.  Is there any danger in doing that?  seems to work
   fine for me right now though..
   
   -Brandon
   On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 21:00, Werner Puschitz wrote:

On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 Was recompiling my kernel today to 2.4.17 from 2.4-7-10.  Upon changing
 my lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo and got this:  
 Added linux
 fatal:  open /boot/initrd-2.4.17:  no such file or directory.  Sure
 enough, a ls of /boot shows: 
 
 ls /boot
 
 boot.b   kernel.hmodule-info-2.4.7-10  vmlinuz
 chain.b  kernel.h-2.4.7  os2_d.b  
 vmlinuz-2.4.17
 grub message System.map   
 vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
 initrd-2.4.7-10.img  module-info System.map-2.4.7-10
 
 No initrd.  Where can i copy it from?  This is my first time compiling a
 kernel after about 2.5 years working off and on with linux, i followed
 the howtos but am stumped here.  Thanks.  

mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img 2.4.17

Make sure it says /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img and not /boot/initrd-2.4.17 in 
/etc/lilo.conf

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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-20 Thread Mike Burger

Simply put, I don't know. G

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote:

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 Mike Burger wrote:
 
 If you compiled the kernel with the device drivers as modules, and not 
 directly into the kernel, and any of those drivers/modules are needed for 
 the initial startup, it could cause problems.
 
 If you compiled all those drivers directly into the kernel, instead of as 
 modules, then you don't need the initrd-whatever.img.
 
 Forgive me for being dense, but why would one want to compile as a
 module a driver which is needed for the system to even boot?  Modules
 are great for peripherals and supporting functions, and I can see the
 benefit of low-level drivers as modules too if you're building a
 kernel that must be portable.  For a dedicated custom build, though,
 why would one not build the crucial components into the kernel and
 spare oneself the trouble?
 
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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-20 Thread rpjday

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Mike Burger wrote:

 Simply put, I don't know. G
 
 On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote:
 
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  Mike Burger wrote:
  
  If you compiled the kernel with the device drivers as modules, and not 
  directly into the kernel, and any of those drivers/modules are needed for 
  the initial startup, it could cause problems.
  
  If you compiled all those drivers directly into the kernel, instead of as 
  modules, then you don't need the initrd-whatever.img.
  
  Forgive me for being dense, but why would one want to compile as a
  module a driver which is needed for the system to even boot?  Modules
  are great for peripherals and supporting functions, and I can see the
  benefit of low-level drivers as modules too if you're building a
  kernel that must be portable.  For a dedicated custom build, though,
  why would one not build the crucial components into the kernel and
  spare oneself the trouble?

if you look closely, you'll notice that red hat 7.2 gives you the
option of building ext3 filesystems at install time, but the supplied
kernel does not contain ext3 functionality -- the ext3 module is
in fact in the initrd.img file shipped by red hat.

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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-20 Thread David Talkington

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rpjday wrote:

  Forgive me for being dense, but why would one want to compile as a
  module a driver which is needed for the system to even boot?  Modules
  are great for peripherals and supporting functions, and I can see the
  benefit of low-level drivers as modules too if you're building a
  kernel that must be portable.  For a dedicated custom build, though,
  why would one not build the crucial components into the kernel and
  spare oneself the trouble?

if you look closely, you'll notice that red hat 7.2 gives you the
option of building ext3 filesystems at install time, but the supplied
kernel does not contain ext3 functionality -- the ext3 module is
in fact in the initrd.img file shipped by red hat.

Sure ... like I said, for a portable kernel, it makes sense.

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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-19 Thread Werner Puschitz


On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 Was recompiling my kernel today to 2.4.17 from 2.4-7-10.  Upon changing
 my lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo and got this:  
 Added linux
 fatal:  open /boot/initrd-2.4.17:  no such file or directory.  Sure
 enough, a ls of /boot shows: 
 
 ls /boot
 
 boot.b   kernel.hmodule-info-2.4.7-10  vmlinuz
 chain.b  kernel.h-2.4.7  os2_d.b  
 vmlinuz-2.4.17
 grub message System.map   
 vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
 initrd-2.4.7-10.img  module-info System.map-2.4.7-10
 
 No initrd.  Where can i copy it from?  This is my first time compiling a
 kernel after about 2.5 years working off and on with linux, i followed
 the howtos but am stumped here.  Thanks.  

mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img 2.4.17

Make sure it says /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img and not /boot/initrd-2.4.17 in 
/etc/lilo.conf

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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-19 Thread Bret Hughes

Check out man mkinitrd.  seems like I have always just given it the
kernel version and the imgfile name needed.

I guess the real question is do you really need an initrd?  Unless you
need something like scsi drivers that you compiled as modules that need
to be availible before the file systems are availible you should not
need one.

If unsure, comment out the line in lilo that refers to it, run lilo
again and reboot.

Bret

On Sat, at 22:50, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 Was recompiling my kernel today to 2.4.17 from 2.4-7-10.  Upon changing
 my lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo and got this:  
 Added linux
 fatal:  open /boot/initrd-2.4.17:  no such file or directory.  Sure
 enough, a ls of /boot shows: 
 
 ls /boot
 
 boot.b   kernel.hmodule-info-2.4.7-10  vmlinuz
 chain.b  kernel.h-2.4.7  os2_d.b  
 vmlinuz-2.4.17
 grub message System.map   
 vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
 initrd-2.4.7-10.img  module-info System.map-2.4.7-10
 
 No initrd.  Where can i copy it from?  This is my first time compiling a
 kernel after about 2.5 years working off and on with linux, i followed
 the howtos but am stumped here.  Thanks.  
 
 -Brandon
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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-19 Thread Brandon Robert Dorman

Before I got this e-mail i just removed the initrd line and rebooted. 
now i get:  

[Brandon@localhost Brandon]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.4.17 #1 Sat Jan 19 19:28:25 PST 2002 i686
unknown

:-)  So it works.  Is there any danger in doing that?  seems to work
fine for me right now though..

-Brandon
On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 21:00, Werner Puschitz wrote:
 
 On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:
 
  Hey guys,
  
  Was recompiling my kernel today to 2.4.17 from 2.4-7-10.  Upon changing
  my lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo and got this:  
  Added linux
  fatal:  open /boot/initrd-2.4.17:  no such file or directory.  Sure
  enough, a ls of /boot shows: 
  
  ls /boot
  
  boot.b   kernel.hmodule-info-2.4.7-10  vmlinuz
  chain.b  kernel.h-2.4.7  os2_d.b  
  vmlinuz-2.4.17
  grub message System.map   
  vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
  initrd-2.4.7-10.img  module-info System.map-2.4.7-10
  
  No initrd.  Where can i copy it from?  This is my first time compiling a
  kernel after about 2.5 years working off and on with linux, i followed
  the howtos but am stumped here.  Thanks.  
 
 mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img 2.4.17
 
 Make sure it says /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img and not /boot/initrd-2.4.17 in 
 /etc/lilo.conf
 
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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-19 Thread Mike Burger

That'll kinda depend.

If you compiled the kernel with the device drivers as modules, and not 
directly into the kernel, and any of those drivers/modules are needed for 
the initial startup, it could cause problems.

If you compiled all those drivers directly into the kernel, instead of as 
modules, then you don't need the initrd-whatever.img.

For example, if you were booting from a SCSI drive, and had compiled the 
driver for the SCSI card as a module, you'd need to create the 
initrd-whatever.img file (using mkinitrd), and include it in your 
lilo.conf, in order to properly boot from that SCSI card/drive combo.

On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:

 Before I got this e-mail i just removed the initrd line and rebooted. 
 now i get:  
 
 [Brandon@localhost Brandon]$ uname -a
 Linux localhost.localdomain 2.4.17 #1 Sat Jan 19 19:28:25 PST 2002 i686
 unknown
 
 :-)  So it works.  Is there any danger in doing that?  seems to work
 fine for me right now though..
 
 -Brandon
 On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 21:00, Werner Puschitz wrote:
  
  On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:
  
   Hey guys,
   
   Was recompiling my kernel today to 2.4.17 from 2.4-7-10.  Upon changing
   my lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo and got this:  
   Added linux
   fatal:  open /boot/initrd-2.4.17:  no such file or directory.  Sure
   enough, a ls of /boot shows: 
   
   ls /boot
   
   boot.b   kernel.hmodule-info-2.4.7-10  vmlinuz
   chain.b  kernel.h-2.4.7  os2_d.b  
   vmlinuz-2.4.17
   grub message System.map   
   vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
   initrd-2.4.7-10.img  module-info System.map-2.4.7-10
   
   No initrd.  Where can i copy it from?  This is my first time compiling a
   kernel after about 2.5 years working off and on with linux, i followed
   the howtos but am stumped here.  Thanks.  
  
  mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img 2.4.17
  
  Make sure it says /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img and not /boot/initrd-2.4.17 in 
  /etc/lilo.conf
  
  Werner
  
  
  
  
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Re: Compiling new kernel, lilo problem

2002-01-19 Thread Brandon Robert Dorman

I compiled most everything I'll need into the kernel.  cdburner, visor,
usb printer/scanner stuff, etc.  but for next time, thanks for the info
Bret, Mike and Werner.   

-Brandon

p.s.  this doesn't have to be a list question, but what do you guys
recommend for a cd-burning software?  Now that I have scsi support in
there I'll actually be able to do it under linux... (that was the reason
i recompiled.)  

On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 22:34, Mike Burger wrote:
 That'll kinda depend.
 
 If you compiled the kernel with the device drivers as modules, and not 
 directly into the kernel, and any of those drivers/modules are needed for 
 the initial startup, it could cause problems.
 
 If you compiled all those drivers directly into the kernel, instead of as 
 modules, then you don't need the initrd-whatever.img.
 
 For example, if you were booting from a SCSI drive, and had compiled the 
 driver for the SCSI card as a module, you'd need to create the 
 initrd-whatever.img file (using mkinitrd), and include it in your 
 lilo.conf, in order to properly boot from that SCSI card/drive combo.
 
 On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:
 
  Before I got this e-mail i just removed the initrd line and rebooted. 
  now i get:  
  
  [Brandon@localhost Brandon]$ uname -a
  Linux localhost.localdomain 2.4.17 #1 Sat Jan 19 19:28:25 PST 2002 i686
  unknown
  
  :-)  So it works.  Is there any danger in doing that?  seems to work
  fine for me right now though..
  
  -Brandon
  On Sat, 2002-01-19 at 21:00, Werner Puschitz wrote:
   
   On 19 Jan 2002, Brandon Robert Dorman wrote:
   
Hey guys,

Was recompiling my kernel today to 2.4.17 from 2.4-7-10.  Upon changing
my lilo.conf, ran /sbin/lilo and got this:  
Added linux
fatal:  open /boot/initrd-2.4.17:  no such file or directory.  Sure
enough, a ls of /boot shows: 

ls /boot

boot.b   kernel.hmodule-info-2.4.7-10  vmlinuz
chain.b  kernel.h-2.4.7  os2_d.b  
vmlinuz-2.4.17
grub message System.map   
vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
initrd-2.4.7-10.img  module-info System.map-2.4.7-10

No initrd.  Where can i copy it from?  This is my first time compiling a
kernel after about 2.5 years working off and on with linux, i followed
the howtos but am stumped here.  Thanks.  
   
   mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img 2.4.17
   
   Make sure it says /boot/initrd-2.4.17.img and not /boot/initrd-2.4.17 in 
   /etc/lilo.conf
   
   Werner
   
   
   
   
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Re: compiling the kernel

2001-03-27 Thread Andrew So Hing-pong

Stuart

Why don't try http://www.linuxdoc.org. In here, you can find a detail 
how-to document for compliling the linux kernel.

Regards,
Andrew So Hing-pong

Hidong Kim wrote:
 
 http://www.freeos.com/articles/2589/2/1-3/
 
 among many others found from a google search on "compiling the linux
 kernel".  Good luck,
 
 Stuart Clark wrote:
 
  Well! anyone would think that instructions for compiling the kernel would be
  on the kernel.org site . But alas no.
 
  Can anyone tell me where to get this info from.
  Regards
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Re: compiling the kernel

2001-03-27 Thread David Talkington

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  Well! anyone would think that instructions for compiling the kernel would be
  on the kernel.org site . But alas no.
 
  Can anyone tell me where to get this info from.

Actually, the kernel docs (which you get when you install the
kernel-doc package) have everything you'll need.  Have you looked
there?

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Re: compiling the kernel

2001-03-26 Thread Hidong Kim

http://www.freeos.com/articles/2589/2/1-3/


among many others found from a google search on "compiling the linux
kernel".  Good luck,




Stuart Clark wrote:
 
 Well! anyone would think that instructions for compiling the kernel would be
 on the kernel.org site . But alas no.
 
 Can anyone tell me where to get this info from.
 Regards
 Stu
 
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Re: Compiling the Kernel

2000-02-14 Thread Frank Carreiro

Ok.. I downloaded the patches...  

This is going to sound dumb but how do I install them :DOk... I feel
like a newbie again ::grinz::


BTW, I also tried compiling the latest egcs source (1.1.2 I think).  I'm
getting a signal 11 error after  I think 70% + complete with the build
(make bootstrap).  No issues with the config. Looks good.

I read the FAQ on signal 11 errors.  Is there perhaps a list of software
that I should have upgraded prior to compiling egcs?

I realize that it could be hardware related (the FAQ suggested this). 
I'm going over everything to rule that out.

Thx for the help!

Frank

www.xmission.com/~dmacleod


Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Frank Carreiro wrote:
 
  sbni.c:1375: Invalid `asm' statement:
  sbni.c:1375: fixed or forbidden register 1 (sx) was spilled for class
  DREG.
 
 You're trying to compile this kernel with gcc 2.95.x.
 Either get the gcc 2.95.x kernel patch
 (http://people.redhat.com/bero/gcc295/) or use egcs 1.1.x/gcc 2.7.x/gcc
 2.8.x to compile this kernel.
 
 LLaP
 bero
 
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Re: Compiling the Kernel

2000-02-11 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Frank Carreiro wrote:

 sbni.c:1375: Invalid `asm' statement:
 sbni.c:1375: fixed or forbidden register 1 (sx) was spilled for class
 DREG.

You're trying to compile this kernel with gcc 2.95.x.
Either get the gcc 2.95.x kernel patch
(http://people.redhat.com/bero/gcc295/) or use egcs 1.1.x/gcc 2.7.x/gcc
2.8.x to compile this kernel.

LLaP
bero

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